For the most part our tastes in beer have been established. Some like balanced to malty beer while a smaller number are somewhat vocal about their taste for hoppy beers.
Others still, throw you entirely for a loop.
A what? Cream Ale? That sounds like one of those oddly named east coast numbers–like the egg-cream soda, which contains neither eggs nor cream.
This is my review of Mother Earth Brew Co , Cali Creamin Ale.
An odd thing growing up in Arizona during the 90s was that was the time people from the east coast began to migrate there. Prior to that it was mostly Cubs and Packers fans, who are large enough in number they actually make a noticeable increase in ticket sales to the local sports venues. Here is Chase Field for example. While the Red Sox and Yankees have drawn the largest average crowd size, their numbers are skewed by the limited appearances as they are both AL teams. In the Yankees case, four of those games were from the 2001 World Series.
At least that is the perception. The reality, unsurprisingly, is California dominates the in-migrant flow to Arizona. On page 22 of this report from Arizona State there is a brief discussion on migratory patterns from 2001-2014. Although smaller in number the east coast migrants still make their presence known. Yes, particularly in the winter. Much of this was in the form of local restaurants becoming hang outs for fans of different teams, but also small markets for food that wasn’t previously available out west. For instance, the aforementioned egg cream soda is made with UBet Chocolate syrup. 
It’s been available here since I was a kid. You could use something else, but its not the same and dare I say improper. Another example is Scrapple, which I’m not going to eat but Taylor Ham I will. I will also contend it’s basically an artisanal form of Spam no matter how much it irritates my stepdad. Many of these things he simply explained as, “an East Coast thing,” as he is a refugee from New Jersey. Which is why he insisted I take the SAT even though I was going to major in a science which meant the ACT would be advantageous for me to take but that was a “west coast thing.” This brings us to another “East Coast thing:” the cream ale.
So what is it anyway?
It is no secret that German immigrants moved to America during the 1870s. A few of these immigrants started brewing lagers. Many argue these are now better suited for scare quotes, so these are now “lagers.” Because of this migrant pattern, Americas taste for beer changed. English style ales fell out of favor for crisp, light, German-immigrant made lager.
“Ale brewers responded to this demand by creating a top-fermented product similar to an American lager. Using ale yeast (or possibly even a combination of lager and ale yeasts, though no concrete evidence exists for the use of lager yeast in the early cream ales), they could produce beer more quickly than the lager brewers could, thereby potentially increasing sales and market share.* It may also have meant that they could use the same worts for both lagers and ales and benefit from economies of scale. These new beers were termed “brilliant,” “sparkling,” or “present use” ales, with the nickname “cream ale” sticking as the common name.”
In other words, a cream ale is the best of both worlds. It has the light, crispness of a lager but also has the complexity of an ale. They do this in part by brewing the ale at a colder temperature like a lager. Few breweries that made these survived prohibition however, or were acquired by others. A good example that is well known is Genesee. Which for the record I have been able to locate in Arizona, but only once.
So how is this one? Disturbingly good. It is every bit as refreshing as advertised, it is light, not hoppy at all. This one has a pleasant vanilla aroma they added in, making it something that is practically begging to be chugged. I’ll be buying it again, even though the only downer was the price, which the bomber costing about $8. Mother Earth Brew Co , California Creamin’ Ale: 4.5/5.
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Those are clearly the tits of a bisexual woman
I volunteer to find out her sexuality and if she has breast implants.
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You’re a good egg, MS. A good egg.
Another example is Scrapple, which I’m not going to eat but Taylor Ham I will.
Well, that’s more Scrapple for me.
I’ve seen it at my local store, but it’s too damn cold for that light, sweet flavor,
Nice write up MS, always a good read
Which is why he insisted I take the SAT even though I was going to major in a science which meant the ACT would be advantageous for me to take but that was a “west coast thing.”
I took both. I remember wanting more flexibility for what colleges I applied to. I ended up only needing the SAT. Sad because I did very well on the ACT.
33 on the ACT
1400 on the SAT.
I really don’t know what that says about me. I didn’t go to college either.
Holy crap. Identical score. All I can say is that back then I was younger, smarter, taller and better looking. It was a long time ago.
My highschool never even gave us info for taking the SAT, only the ACT.
Same here
The guidance counselor at my old high school told us about the ACT/SAT divide. He said if you want to stay local, you don’t need the ACT, take the SAT. If you want to go west, take the ACT. If you’re not sure, take both.
Nobody at the college I was attending had placement exams for Math and English either, so I was forced to take remedial classes worth 0 credits because I never took those tests. The English professor profusely apologized to me, because she could tell I shouldn’t have been there. A funny thing, when I transferred that remedial English transferred as English 101.
*nobody told me they did have placement exams.
I only took the ACT. I don’t remember what I got but do remember it was good enough to go to any CO college which of course I didn’t do because I had dreams of being a ski bum at the time.
Can I just point out that I come from the second cleverest state?
My state mostly wanted the ACT so I took it, but ended up taking the SAT to satisfy the National Merit Scholarship Corporation.
Hayek… saw your good news on the late night thread. Congratulations!
I did likewise, because Arkansas was one of the few states that used the ACT heavily in the 80’s. I took the SAT for National Merit cash, and because I had these weird thoughts that I could get into an Ivy League school (I did, but the price tag was beyond question).
Is there much radler/shandy drinking in the states?
They’re popping up
I’m not interested in them after having one at Früh am Dom for breakfast because they hadn’t tapped the Kölsch kegs yet. I really didn’t like it.
Leinenkugel summer shandy is very popular here, I’ve never tried it though.
I really love Leinie’s Creamy Dark Lager. Haven’t seen it for a while though.
I live not too far from the Leine plant, we get them all the time; but I don’t usually drink it. The beer I miss that I can’t find anywhere around here anymore is Guinness Black Lager, although I did see the Blonde Lager in the store a couple weeks ago, might try that at some point. I don’t drink different beers very often, I get set in my ways and just stick with what I like mostly with everything.
I was getting this Schwarzbeir on tap for a while at the local pub. Very good.
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/45/184617/
I make it for myself from time to time, although the English taste is more ‘lager top’, so about 80% some inexpensive not too alcoholic brew, topped up to a full glass with Sprite.
Radlers and Shandies are both growing right now. The Stiegl is fairly common around me. Boulevard (owned by Duvel Moortgat) has two that appear popular around here, and several of my local breweries will have one or two they brew up for summer. The biggest problem is that some breweries don’t quite grasp the concept of a low alcohol beer, and start pushing them up to 5-6% ABV, at which point, it’s just a fruit beer.
I see Shandy’s quite often
Never had a cream ale but i did have something called india pale lager.
I’ve only had two cream ales. Genessee and some early micro-brew that no longer exists. I don’t remember my thoughts on Genessee. I remember liking that micro-brew.
Nice article as always!
I was going to suggest MS review Genny Cream Ale.
That shit smelled *nasty* when I was a kid.
I don’t think I’ve ever had it. My stepfather drank Genny Light by the case and my mom only drank frilly girl drinks.
Mine too, which was my first exposure to cream ale. We all have to start somewhere.
*Sheepishly puts hand up
I buy a 12-pack of Genny Creamer’s a couple times of year. It’s not really that bad IMO. When you want a mowing the lawn beer in the summer time it has it’s place. It’s much better than regular Genny or *shudders* Genny Ice.
I don’t see Genny anything here in NYC – maybe one time in the last couple decades 🙁
My stepfather isn’t around to keep them in business anymore; I would like to do my part.
It’s still ubiquitous in the Rochester area. The High Fall’s brewery is very worth a visit.
Long before “High Falls” became all high-falutin’, I used to ride my bike past the Genesee brewery all the time when I was a kid – wonderful smell. Much better than the Kodak plant I lived next to.
It has definitely gone all-hipster if you know the brand’s working-class roots but the craft beer they make is top notch IMO. As long as they keep cranking out cheap working-stiff beer and fancy porters and scotch ale’s, I’ll happily drink both.
These were my choices Thursday night. I went with the Zero Kelvin Spiced Porter and the Dreamweaver Hefeweizen. Was very happy with both. The Spiced Porter started out a little different but it grew on me quickly. The Hefeweizen had that nice consistency that I like in a good wheat beer.
http://www.luckysgrille.com/hilliard1.html
The 2 Belgians that are coming soon look interesting.
Dreamweaver is good. Tröegs consistently produces good stuff.
Yeah, I had a second one:) Liked it a lot.
This is one of my all-time favorite Donald Trump quotes.
“YOU SHOULD BE PRESIDENT FOR SAYING THAT” – note the date.
Icing on the cake.
I hope that one goes in his presidential library.
Picking on Vampire-Americans. Hateful bastard.
Re: the ACT/SAT divide:
Some economist about ten years ago estimated average IQs in each of the 50 states. Needing data on which to base his judgment, he chose SAT scores. Among his presumptions: SAT correlates well with IQ. OK. Another presumption: any HS student in that state not taking the SAT has an IQ lower than anyone in that state taking the SAT. Oh dear. No one told this guy that the ACT exists. So he was getting absurdly low IQ estimates for Midwest states because he did not realize that relatively few students there took the SAT because they were taking the ACT instead.
Do you have the link to that paper? I’d love to use that example the next time I teach research design.
IQ and the Wealth of States, Kanazawa. Pdf is free on his personal website, but you’re an academic, right? So I presume you could get access anyway.
Just looked at it again, and it’s sooooo bad.
Thanks!
London School of Economics. Say no more.
Every time you mention the LSE I hear it in the voice of Sir Humphrey Appleby and I smile.
He would express it differently. Something like this on the phone …
And I think of Mick Jagger.
Sucks to be a Mississippian. College kids are literally morons. Utahans are imbeciles.
Giving it a quick skim, it’s a good lesson to teach face validity as well. As flattering as the findings are to my preconceived biases (NH number one!), it doesn’t make sense that the average denizen of the Granite State, particularly if we’re going to correlate with state GDP, would be a full 25 points above the average denizen of Illinois. We’d have to believe that a.) the median population of the state is clinically retarded, which despite electing Obama to the Senate, isn’t the case, and b.) the long term presence of the University of Chicago, DePaul, Loyola, University of Illinois, etc. has not attracted high-IQ individuals to live in the state to reproduce and regress the median IQ to the national mean.
I’m sure there is a lot more but I’m working on 6 hours of sleep over 2 days.
I think Dr. Satoshi Kanazawa, LSE, is so clueless about the field he is studying that it would not occur to him that he went seriously wrong. You’re right – he’s basically saying entire states have average IQs that would make the residents largely unable to care for themselves. As those states are NOT apparently enormous adult care facilities, something has gone seriously wrong…but he doesn’t see the problem. There are numbers in his research, and the correspondence of those numbers with phenomena is not interesting to him.
BTW, he’s a darling of the alt-right (the REAL alt-right, like Derb, Sailer, the VDARE crew, etc.) because he’s also published some stuff right up their alley. They seem to have a Gell-Mann Amnesia thing going on with him, because Sailer has ALSO pointed out how stupid IQ and the Wealth of States is. Guess when his conclusions agree with theirs, his research definitely has no flaws and it would be senseless to look into it.
Are you sure?
You mean Midwesterners aren’t intellectual midgets?
MIND.BLOWN.
I have never had a cream ale. Thanks for the heads up. I thought HM was talking about that youtube he was on a linking spree for awhile. The girl spewing daddies…… I tried to find it but no joy.
This one I think?
Not that one and damn you for linking that.
I thought that was the one HM used to post. I guess he’ll have to dig the right one up and post it.
This could be the world we live in, but no one is willing to cede enough power to me to make it happen.
I could help her out with her problem.
The first woman that is… I should finish watching the video first.
That’s not the one I was thinking of either. In my search I ended up watching about 15 mins of this girl dance. Worth it.
I’ve seen Taylor ham in the cooler but never tried it. Spam like taste? So fry it for a sandwich or ?
Have had U-bet, and made a bunch of egg creams for the missus. The grocery stores around here started carrying it a couple years ago, and sugar instead of corn syrup for Passover. No kosher Coke though.
Little Kings used to be the cream ale of choice around here, Thinking about it now I realize I haven’t seen any in years.
Oh ya, Little Kings. I forgot about that one. We used to drink a bit of that around these parts too. I think it is still available.
It’s still around up in Cleveland. The brewery is Hudepohl out of Cincinnati.
No Little Kings at my closest beer store that has a wide selection but I found this , In case it’s no good I also got a back up 30 pack.
Wolf’s Ridge makes some solid beers. Last I heard, they’re looking to expand. I was not a fan of the taproom however, they went the upscale food and fancy decoration route. I prefer the bar food, good beer, and industrial look myself.
Had some great cream ales at Violet Crown Cinema last fall, but it’d take me a while to dig up the names. The good ones would take 5 minutes to fill up a glass…slowly.
Side note….Scott Adams linked to this one yesterday. More interesting reading: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/1/more-cover-up-questions/ (seth rich related)
I hope Scott’s got a good insurance policy and excellent situational awareness
interesting
How prevalent is mental illness in mass shootings?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/03/how-prevalent-is-mental-illness-in-mass-shootings.html
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In a study of 185 public mass shootings– defined as an incident in which four or more people are killed at a public location – from 1900 through 2017 criminologist Grant Duwe found that 59 percent were committed by people who had been diagnosed as mentally ill or showed signs of having a serious mental disorder before the attack.
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Mother Jones, the left-leaning publication, compiled a database of mass shootings going back to 1982, and found that about half involved some form of “mental health issue.” They included people who had been diagnosed with serious conditions, but also those who had domestic violence and work conflict histories.
An analysis by Everytown for Gun Safety released last year showed that in mass killings between January 2009 and December 2016, the shooter displayed at least one red flag, or troubling behavior, in 42 percent of cases.
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Many widely cited studies, including some conducted by the National Institutes of Health, on gun violence show that anywhere between 4 and 20 percent of the incidents are caused by people with a serious mental illness.
Jeffrey Swanson, a professor in psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Duke University who specializes in gun violence and mental illness, conducted a study funded in part by the National Institutes of Health that found that 4 percent of gun and other violence is traceable to schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and depression – the three mental health conditions most frequently found in violent incidents.
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What is more common among perpetrators of mass shootings, Swanson said, are potentially red flag behaviors such as festering anger, alienation, and bitterness over being bullied, perhaps, that do not meet the threshold of a mental disorder — and that may not be perceptible even to those close to the person — but that can lead to violence. Substance abuse is a common thread in mass shootings, found to be a factor in nearly 40 percent of shooters.
“If we were to cure mental illness, all of it, tomorrow, how much of our violence problem would go down? It would go down about 4 percent,” said Swanson, who has studied the issue for the National Institutes of Health. “The mass shooters, with some exception, have been angry, alienated, emotionally trouble young men who act out these incredibly deviant cultural scripts and have access to firearms.”
“There are tons of people who are risky, who are angry or suicidal, but who would pass a background check,” Swanson said. “They don’t have a felony conviction, they’ve never been involuntarily committed. How do you make sure dangerous people don’t get access to firearms?”
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“How do you make sure dangerous people don’t get access to firearms?”
You can’t. At best, you can reduce it.
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One approach gaining momentum is Red Flag Laws, which allow relatives and officials to seek a court order to remove guns from dangerous people. Five states have the laws, and Red Flag measures are pending in roughly 20 others.
In a written statement, the FBI said a person close to Cruz contacted the agency’s tip line Jan. 5 to report concerns about “Cruz’s gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting.”
Florida does not have a Red Flag Law.
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But do they have tiger repelling rocks?
“Fresh fruit not good enough for you, eh? Well, let me tell you something, my lad! When you’re walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after YOU with a bunch of loganberries, don’t come cryin’ to me!”
Florida didn’t need a red flag law.
There seem to have been a number of situations where the police had had to intervene when they were called for Cruz assaulting and/or threatening other individuals. Had any one of those calls led to him being detained, there’s a reasonable chance that this event might have been avoided.
Let’s avoid imposition of Red Flag laws, because we know where that leads.
Exactly. I think Dianne Fuckstain (D-CA) already proposed such a program.
It’s widely reported that if you ever use a gun in self-defense, you’ll never get it back from the evidence locker. Technically you’re supposed to since it’s your property and you used it legally, but almost every justifiable shooting story that you’ll read on gun forums mentions that the cops were totally uncooperative in getting this gun back to the owner.
It would be the exact same thing if your guns were taken away under a “red flag” policy. Your wife could call the cops on you during an argument, and boom, no more guns. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if hardcore “progressives” started informing on gun owners they know just to “get guns off the streets” and feel like they’re doing some amazing social good.
One of the reasons I’m thinking of putting all my guns into a Gun Trust and not just suppressors. If I’m ever 5150’d I can resign trusteeship to my kids. If I ever use a gun, sure, it’d stay confiscated, but all the others would be owned by someone other than me.
There seem to have been a number of situations where the police had had to intervene when they were called for Cruz assaulting and/or threatening other individuals.
That was essentially the subject of a smart ass tweet I sent yesterday to an NPR tweet about a story of a new poll of theirs stating something like 3/4 of americans want more strict gun laws. How many of them know the Parkland shooting very well could have been prevented if current laws were enforced? If they listen to NPR not many. I think my tweet was shadow banned anyways. Either that or I don’t know how to see replies/responses to tweets.
What’s the link to your tweet?
I don’t understand why this is supposed to be relevant. Our rights have to be documented in the Constitution – which is supposed to be an inviolable document – because a majority of people are often in favor of taking those rights away from other people.
In the 1700s, I bet the majority of people favored slavery. Does that make it OK? If the majority of people wanted it, it’s perfectly just, so there’s no grievance there, right?
I am having the same trouble. I stopped bothering to respond on there. I am banned from twitter = badge of honor for me. Their days are numbered anyway.
How many of them know the Parkland shooting very well could have been prevented if current laws
were enforcedmaking schools and other locations defenseless targets were repealed?FTFY.
“criminologist Grant Duwe found that 59 percent were committed by people who had been diagnosed as mentally ill or showed signs of having a serious mental disorder before the attack.”
How prevalent is mental illness in mass shootings? 100 fucking percent.
Signs of mental illness? What do they think a mass shooting is?
An expression of toxic masculinity.
No, Suthen, those perfectly sane people were overcome by the gun’s bloodlust.
This is like saying, “black, or had a suntan”
“from 1900 ”
“going back to 1982”
“between January 2009”
And yet people will express outrage and skepticism when you say,
“arbitrary data can be gathered to support any position, provided you’re allowed total flexibility over the time frames being selectd, and definitions of the terms for what constitutes things like “mentally ill””
this is my endless gripe. journalists are as a whole not just innumerate – they dont even recognize when the data that’s submitted to them as ‘evidence’ is essentially meaningless and contrived. they will reprint anything so long as they are in the form of numbers or a bar/line chart.
Fun Fact: At one point Genesee Cream Ale was the most popular beer in the country.
Edit Fairy Blesses You!
damn it, the G-men whom control the stupid network are worried I might be corrupted if I visit an alcohol website…..hence the broken link. Edit Fairy?
I had to run a couple of errands and so I feel behind. I checked on the morning thread and saw where I missed Lachowski’s reply in our discussion on racism. Pretty good insight as to why racism is worse in population centers than in rural areas –
“Get far enough away from population centers in the U.S. amd you will find that most of the people you encounter live away from those centers for a reason. That reason being they largely want to be left alone. A strong urge to be left alone IMHO produces the best kind of people.”
Definitely true for me. When we were searching for a house I told the real estate agent “I want to be able to piss off of my back porch and shoot my rifle without it bothering anyone.” My wife had different standards, but we definitely moved away from people for a reason – we wanted to be left alone.
feel, fell, whats the difference?
At this point, it makes none.
OT: Related to the guns and crazies debate; the whole problem with people with mental health issues is one where I teeter on the edge with my live and let live ideals. Case in point; my sister has this friend who gets disability for being mentally unstable. This woman ‘tries to commit suicide’ every few months, get sent to a mental hospital where she is allowed to check herself out and does so after about a day. This is all paid for by our caring benevolent government. This woman also gets arrested for drugs (which, yeah shouldn’t be a crime) and violent activities with the same regularity, gets a short stint and repeats. She also has two kids, for whom the government gives her more freebies. While CPS is going after people who let their kids play outside, this woman frequently disappears on benders and her small children are left floating around with people who care for them, then when she gets back she can take the kids. My mom tried to get CPS involved for the children’s sake, but they don’t much care.
I know if the money spigot dried up we may have fewer cases like this, but I think some people just are too damaged to be let free of their own recognizance also.
I mean, I’m not one for mandatory lock-up for all crazies, but when we do nothing we get shit like this going on.
Is the problem for you really that she’s crazy or just that she’s scamming freebies? Not really clear she is a danger to the kids (though probably is), especially since it sounds like people are around to look after them.
Anyway, maybe her violent tendencies should get her put away on a more permanent basis regardless of alleged insanity, children or drug use. Those last three are all incidental to the actual problem which is her propensity for violence.
It’s difficult to go after the sort of woman CPRM describes. It’s easier to go after people who prefer to obey the law.
There is also more incentive to go after people that have money or property.
I am not opposed to mentally unstable people having no access to guns but I also know what progressives will do with that, so fuck them. They want more mass shootings anyway.
I am just now remembering being caught with a gun on campus once…at university. For some reason that I cant remember my photography professor followed me to my car to put something in or get something out. When I opened the trunk he saw my winchester. He kind of freaked out. We knew each other well enough to be on a first name basis so I said
“Mike, you know me. Do you think I am the kind of guy that would be a problem, or do you think I am the kind of guy that would be the solution to a problem?”
Wheels turned for a moment then he relaxed and never said another word about it.
I think “when we do nothing” is not so much the issue as her behavior is subsidized (an thus incentivized) by the handouts you’ve mentioned. She can behave that way because behaving that way has been rewarded and thus enabled her self-destructive tendencies. She may have turned out nuts regardless but state sanctioning sure hasn’t helped.
Child welfare is an issue that I sometimes feel myself ‘teetering’ on too, as you put it. I’m not sure if it’s a legitimate use of power for the state to intervene on the behalf of kids. On one hand they are ensuring the kids rights are being protected (kids don’t have the same rights as adults but they certainly have a right to life and parents I endangering their lives is aggression IMO) but on the other you inevitably have the state deciding what is an acceptable standard of parenting which inevitably leads to nanny-statism. Maybe a smarter Glib than I can help me out?
Keep it as local as possible, you know your neighbors, which ones really need help and which ones are dangerous etc. When we leave it to state or god forbid federal entities we eliminate the first hand knowledge and get one size fits all solutions, also it disincentives the locals, friends and family, to actually step up and act, the “Not my job” syndrome.
As with many such conundrums the problem isnt figuring out what should be done, the problem is the competency of the people doing it.
I was drinking and watching some badass basketball from the 1990s last night
in my feed this morning is “Barkley and Jordan rip each other on Oprah”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwiKFho6qYc
its funny. barkley is the better diss-artist, obviously. he gives good retort.
OT: Original platform of the Populists
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Omaha_Platform
Basically: We Need Big Government to Save Us from Big Business by doing things such as nationalizing certain industries essential to internal trade and communications. Oh and an income tax and elected senators. And land speculation is bad.
Fun fact: Preamble was written by a Radical Republican who, quoth Wikipedia: ” advocated extending the powers of the Freedmen’s Bureau to provide education for freedmen so that they could protect themselves once the bureau was withdrawn. Donnelly was also an early supporter of women’s suffrage.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_L._Donnelly
This is for all the people who think the Radical Republicans were all a bunch of proto-libertarians.
“” for all the people who think the Radical Republicans were all a bunch of proto-libertarians.””
with a robust audience like that, you should start your own blog.
The pro-Union libertarians don’t make that argument?
Also I find this interesting since current mainstream attitudes toward the Civil War and Reconstruction emphasis how wonderful these guys were.
” pro-Union libertarians”
you are doing essential work rebutting this powerful constituency
The Civil War is not an issue among libertarians? Even on this site?
Like your mom, it is something many expend their energies on daily.
Yawn.
I remember that time the Roman Republicans threw the Christians to the lions. I started to doubt their libertarianism even back then.
I know this is a joke but I don’t think there were very many Republican Romans by that time?
We always knew they wuz splitters.
Fun fact: The Jewish factionalism was real:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealot_Temple_Siege
Considering the behavior of Twitter, Google, Facebook and leftist virtue signaling of big business on issues like guns I wonder how long until the right adopts similar populist anti-corporate attitudes. Lafollette had similar attitudes in his 1924 campaign. This isn’t a “nationalize all businesses” attitude but a “big business is too powerful and we need TOP MEN to help the little guy”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1924#Progressive_Party_nomination
Any suggestions for a good Mesopotamian beer?
Hammurabi Lite
Uruk Ice
Ishtar IPA
Gilgamesh Dry.
Depends on what you’re classing as a Mesopotamian beer… but your best bet may be one of these. I’d probably lean towards the Ta Henket, Birra Etrusca, or the Midas Touch.
Full warning, I hated the Midas Touch when I tried it once.
Fertile Crescent Lager.
Pray tell what people should pat themselves on the back about?
https://mashable.com/2018/03/02/john-krasinski-playboy-metoo-sexual-harassment-comments/
Yeah, pat yourself on the back for being a preachy asshat to other men, just like the women #metooers
“If you’re a male CEO and you don’t harass people, don’t pat yourself on the back,” Krasinski told Playboy. “Get other people to be more like you.”
See what happens when you don’t have Dwight keeping you honest?
Sounds like he doesn’t want his upcoming Tom Clancy based show to do well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Santo_Domingo
There was even a referendum but I find the results questionable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_annexation_referendum,_1870
Combine appeals to emotion, assorted specious arguments and nonsensical mumbo-jumbo in a large bowl; add hogwash to taste, whip until frothy
The young people who have come forward to call for gun control in the wake of the mass shooting at their high school in Parkland, Fla., are challenging the tiresome stereotype of American kids as indolent narcissists whose brains have been addled by smartphones. They offer an inspiring example of thoughtful, eloquent protest.
Unfortunately, when it comes to electing lawmakers whose decisions about gun control and other issues affect their lives, these high schoolers lack any real power. This needs to change: The federal voting age in the United States should be lowered from 18 to 16.
The world has gone cuckoo.
Because obviously, these 16 year olds won’t be able to remember who to vote for in two years’ time.
I guessed the WaPo. I guess you cant shine a light between them.
How about we compromise and raise the voting age to 25, restrict it to property owners, net tax payers or married? Move tax day to the day before election day. That seems fair to me.
I wonder what the percentages of 16 year olds that would actually be active in voting breakdown between snowflakes and 4channers.
This has been a concern for awhile. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k4KKD_SuLRY
LOL the same “science” shows that the age to purchase guns needs to be raised. Imagine that. IFLS!
Is it really? Changing the voting age and voting qualifications has always been a blatant political act.
Lindy West has a complaint
We need new work that actively challenges and counterbalances old assumptions, that offers radical models for how to conceive of ourselves and how to treat each other. We need artists and studios fighting for diverse work made by diverse creators for diverse audiences because it’s the right thing to do, not just because “Black Panther” is hurtling toward a possible billion-dollar worldwide box-office take. Capitalism won’t germinate that kind of pure morality on its own, but we can choose it. If we really want to have this #MeToo reckoning — if we want to fix what’s broken — those choices are part of it. The movement can’t just disrupt the culture; it has to become the culture.
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Unseating a couple (or a score, or even a generation) of powerful abusers is a start, but it’s not an end, unless we also radically change the power structure that selects their replacements and the shared values that remain even when the movement wanes. Art didn’t invent oppressive gender roles, racial stereotyping or rape culture, but it reflects, polishes and sells them back to us every moment of our waking lives. We make art, and it simultaneously makes us. Shouldn’t it follow, then, that we can change ourselves by changing the art we make?
Apparently, there has been a vast conspiracy to censor and silence writers, actors and directors whose movies would, if they had not been assiduously kept from the public eye, have been gargantuan hits, as well as invaluable instructional aids for the creation of a better, more just and equal society. Where is Diane Moon Glompers, when you need her?
“Capitalism won’t germinate that kind of pure morality on its own, but we can choose it. If we really want to have this #MeToo reckoning — if we want to fix what’s broken — those choices are part of it. The movement can’t just disrupt the culture; it has to become the culture.”
And there it is. No matter what cause they are championing it always slips out that capitalism is the cause of the problem.
Their cause is just. /ENB
Drat! It’s Diana, not Diane.
No matter what cause they are championing it always slips out that capitalism is the cause of the problem.
If it’s not the fault of capitalism, they would be forced to wonder if what they want and like just isn’t very popular.
The Nick Gillespie of Twitter posts
Way to make a big policy impact.
Ok, got the pot covered. What’s Gillespie doing for Mexican ass sex?
Was it John who coined that phrase? Or was he quoting or paraphrasing someone else?
like people still smoke joints…….
OOh I posted that 4:20, well then….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UUPY902Ph0
lol there’s video of them *signing* packs of rolling papers
“Libertarians are just conservatives that like to smoke pot.”
Gillespie – “No we are not. Here, have a free pack of autographed rolling papers.”
The libertarian moment is imminent.
Are they liberals who like guns?
Ugh. Still with the purple hair. What is she, 14?
One of the supervisors where I work is older than god and sports bottle-red hair and a garish tattoo. Some people have a preconceived notion of how the rest of humanity views them and others just don’t seem to give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut. I’d put her in the latter category. She’s growing on me.
I guess they don’t have to convince normies since it’s LibertyCon, but that’s pretty damn lame.
Oh what rebels, signing rolling papers…in 2018.
*Now imagines Nick Gillespie’s ancestor signing rum bottles and talking about how hardcore he is in 1952*
@reason @kmanguward @MattWelch and me
Son, I am disappoint.
Not surprised, though. Isn’t Gillespie alleged to have an English degree?
PhD in English literature.
^^THIS is why you don’t get much pushback when people like us go on about credentialism.
A wild number 6 has been spotted
Penny farthings are hip AF.
“His educational history includes a B.A. in English and psychology from Rutgers University and a M.A. in English from Temple University, as well as a Ph.D. in English literature from the State University of New York at Buffalo.”
-Wikipedia
I wonder if his Mom maintains the Fonzie chapel in his bedroom closet.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/03/italian-elections-european-union-populism
Love how a sidebar links to an article saying exactly that.
Wait What?
TOP MEN
Not sure how “Berlusconi” did not show up in that second blockquote.