Motown Tuesday Links

I’m stuck in Dearborn with a stomach bug. It has made me very popular with my clients and coworkers — who sent me back to the hotel. The internet is a wonderful thing. I can work from my hotel room nearly exactly the same as working at home. Its…lovely. Gray, cold, overcast, dreary. What’s not to love about winter in Michigan.

One of the really sad developments of my adulthood is to see sex being thrown back in the closet. Just with the moral scolds changing sides.

Here’s another reason why I don’t have internet enabled devices in my home. “Hey, Brett, could you ask your wife to model that bikini again before you change the password on your webcam?”

Its weird, but some sick part of me keeps seeing “Sid and Nancy” every time I read “Chuck and Nancy”. I’m rooting for a Donny-style shutdown. Fuck shutting down the National Parks. Shut down the Social Security direct deposit and see what happens! Go Nucular!

Trump administration wants to poison CA’s water supply! Not to worry, I’m sure state regs will fix it, right?

We all love our dogs, but when Darwin’s ghost comes knocking, let him have the dog.

Here’s something appropriately Detroit for the dog lover.

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387 responses to “Motown Tuesday Links”

  1. Chipwooder

    some sick part of me keeps seeing “Sid and Nancy” every time I read “Chuck and Nancy”.

    Does that mean Moobs is gonna stab her to death in a heroin daze? AWESOME!

    1. Bobarian LMD

      I’m thinking you got the roles reversed. Nancy is gonna stab his chunky girlfriend.

      1. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

        I think that’s his niece, not his girlfriend.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      “When the president brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana, he’s in real trouble,” Schumer jabbed.

      MikeS has a sad.

      1. Brochettaward

        That’s really a pretty incredibly condescending statement on top of being a big reason why the Democrats lost to him to begin with.

      2. MikeS

        When I read it I thought, “I haven’t watched Fargo in a while”.

        1. Tundra

          I generally dig Cohen Bros flicks, but I watched Burn After Reading this weekend and found it very meh.

  2. Tres Cool

    Yup….Jugsy showed up here once with an amazon firestik with voice activation.
    That shit went right back out the door.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      What is Shumer doing at your house?

  3. >>What’s not to love about winter in Michigan

    Every winter I say to myself: “You need to get out of this Midwest Siberia! Move to South Carolina!”

    And then Spring comes… and I’m happy again…

    1. Florida Man

      It got down to 40 yesterday. I was not pleased.

      1. High of 34 today… low of 25. And gray… gray… gray.

        Plus everyone wears a lot of black or dark brown or gray clothing. It’s depressing.

        1. Nephilium

          Looks at what I’m currently wearing…

          It’s a fair cop.

      2. Nephilium

        We’re supposed to get up to the 40’s this weekend. The jackets will be put away for a bit.

        1. Florida Man

          I messed up. I wore my work jacket inside last night because it was chilly and left it at home. Now I’m going to freeze in the OR.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            OR? That is a cute nick-name for a meth lab.

          2. Florida Man

            No, that’s a cook lab. Outdoor rapenasium.

        2. Dr. Fronkensteen

          Heat went out at home. Indoor Temp 61 F

    2. C. Anacreon

      Oh, mama, can this really be the end?

      To be stuck inside of Dearborn with a stomach bug again.

      /Bob Dylan

      1. Chipping Pioneer

        **Folk festival applause**

  4. Florida Man

    Here’s another reason why I don’t have internet enabled devices in my home. “Hey, Brett, could you ask your wife to model that bikini again before you change the password on your webcam?”-

    You’re like those local news stations scare mongering grandma. Change your password from the default and you’re good.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      P0des$ta

      1. Florida Man

        Damn it! Now I’ve got to change it again.

    2. Sean

      “The man speaking to him through the camera said he was a ‘white hat’ hacker in Canada with the group Anonymous. He told Gregg his private information had been compromised … The man then recited a password Gregg had used for multiple websites.

      Well…

  5. Drake

    The victim’s dog, one of two dogs that he owns, was OK after the animal got out of the water on its own.

    Bet that guy feels silly now.

    1. Florida Man

      He was trying to rescue a husky. Aren’t they bred for exactly that environment?

      1. Gadianton

        They’re bred for cold environments, but if the under-coat gets wet it slicks down — which eliminates the extra insulation. They aren’t like Newfies who can swim in cold water — and love it.

  6. Rhywun

    I don’t have internet enabled devices in my home

    Not even a computer?

    1. Florida Man

      Not even a WiFi enabled egg tray. For shame.

      1. commodious spittoon

        How can you tell whether you’re out of eggs?!

  7. Drake

    Everything I’ve heard about the James Fields trial and sentencing screams “show-trial of a patsy”. Sounds like his public defenders put up a token defense based on him being a moron.

  8. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Trump administration poised to strip protections from up to two-thirds of California streams and millions of acres nationwide

    Excellent. While you’re at it, cut the fingers off the unelected bureaucrats who expanded the definition of a navigable waterway to include the mudhole in my backyard.

    1. Suthenboy

      I second that.

    2. leon

      That is the rule they are rolling back, i believe. For a power hungry fascist, Trump sure is rolling back his predecessors power grabs.

      “two-thirds of California streams ”

      How many of those “Californian streams” are waterways that start also go through other states.

      1. The Last American Hero

        Not only that, but apparently California doesn’t have any state/county/city environmental regulations or regulators.

  9. The Other Kevin

    So apparently a source familiar with another source familiar with the situation says that Trump’s team is very worried about him going to jail. It must be true, it’s all over the news.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m so tired of the media. They’re worthless.

    2. The Other Kevin

      It’s like someone took all your most annoying leftist Facebook friends and gave each of them a web site and a TV network.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        I wouldn’t call them “friends”…

    3. Chipwooder

      And none of those Guardians of Truth ever mention the fact that the entire raison d’être of the S.S. Mueller fishing trip, Russia fever dreams, have absolutely nothing to do with this supposed crime.

    4. Suthenboy

      My favorite was WaPo’s “sources familiar with Trump’s thinking say…”

    5. “Idi Amin Apologist”

      We’ve gone from literally collusion to literally a campaign violation so fast that’s it’s hard to recall that the corporate press is clinically retarded

    6. The Last American Hero

      The source didn’t know Trump was referring to the Monopoly game he, Ivanka, and Kushner were playing the other night after dinner.

  10. Scruffy Nerfherder

    By the way Brett, your sex doll does look good in that lingerie you bought xer.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      And yeah, norovirus is not halal.

  11. Stinky Wizzleteats

    That Facebook sex crackdown is the inevitable consequence of those anti trafficking laws that were passed recently. As much as I fucking hate Zuckerberg, this is (mostly) not on him.

    1. grrizzly

      Neo-Puritanism: we are just living through it.

    2. Count Potato

      Except Facebook endorsed those same supposed “anti trafficking” laws.

      1. Chafed

        Exactly. These tech titans don’t understand that laws have consequences that will come back to bite them in the ass.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Everything I’ve heard about the James Fields trial and sentencing screams “show-trial of a patsy”.

    Is that the Charlottesville guy? I just don’t see how you get first degree murder out of that.

    1. MikeS

      I thought I read (here) that he had been making online comments about running people down. I think even posted an animation or drawing of such an event.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        If he did that, the only defense is insanity.

    2. Suthenboy

      I am not sure how they get murder. The guy is completely nuts. He should be spending the rest of his life in a straight jacket.

      1. Chafed

        That’s doubtful. I don’t know VA’s insanity defense law but in most states you either have to be unaware of your own actions or unable to appreciate the difference between right and wrong.

    3. Count Potato

      I’m thinking you can get any outcome you want from a jury, when their alternative is being “exposed” as a nazis on social media for deciding the wrong way.

  13. Rhywun

    a promise to agriculture interests and real estate developers

    It’s not like California relies on agriculture or lacks plentiful areas to develop housing, I mean come on.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Haven’t you heard? It’s literally all on fire.

      Trump did that.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    A shooting in France? They don’t have guns there, do they?

    1. Suthenboy

      TIME is still in business?

      1. Sean

        I imagine doctor & dentist office subscriptions keep them hanging on.

      2. The Last American Hero

        It is no-shit required reading in my school district. TFK – Time for Kids, updating our little comrades on all the important news of the week.

        1. I remember that dreck from middle school. That and Channel one.

    2. Gadfly

      I LOL’ed at your post about “What if Youtube existed during the Civil War”.

  15. J. Frank Parnell

    I hope everyone is stocked up on hot takes, because we may be having a shortage soon:

    Slate’s Newly Unionized Writers and Editors Give OK to Strike

    Along with stronger diversity policies and cost of living increases, the union wants the company to back off its insistence on making union fees optional, the kind of “right-to-work” policy loathed by liberals and organized labor.

    Before the strike vote, Slate employees engaged in other forms of protest, including hour-long periods during which they refused to respond to their managers on the workplace chat hub Slack.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      Not responding for a whole hour.

      The courage, the fortitude, the endurance to see the job through.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      They’ll be sorely missed… said no one.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Interesting:

      Graham Holdings Company also owns three firms active in various capacities on the World Wide Web. These include The Slate Group, which publishes Slate, Slate V, and ForeignPolicy.com.[16] The Root, an online magazine focusing on African American culture, used to be held by The Slate Group until Graham Holdings sold it to Univision Communications in 2015.[17] Graham Holdings Company also owns SocialCode, an advertising agency specializing in social media/ID-based marketing, and Panoply, a podcasting network.

      1. Count Potato

        Someone paid money for The Root?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Yes, and it was Univision, because black conspiracy theories go over great with Hispanic audiences.

    4. Suthenboy

      Yesterday I said that the proggies will self-destruct because their heads are full of mush.
      Goodbye and good riddance Slate.

    5. Brochettaward

      Along with stronger diversity policies </blockquote

      So which white union members are going to be willing to sacrifice themselves in the name of diversity?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The ones who can’t close their tags, obviously.

    6. Rhywun

      In recent years, workers have unionized at outlets including Gizmodo Media Group, the HuffPost, Vice Media, the Guardian, the Daily Beast, and the New Yorker.

      Please let there be a sympathy walk-out. A permanent one.

    7. B.P.

      Hey, enough with the mockery. These are the Person of the Year we’re talking about.

    8. leon

      “union wants the company to back off its insistence on making union fees optional, ”

      Nuff said.

    9. Chafed

      Hope they enjoy eating their own cooking.

    10. R C Dean

      They’re so fucking stupid they don’t realize that diversity policies are going to cost some of their lily-white asses their jobs.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    I thought I read (here) that he had been making online comments about running people down. I think even posted an animation or drawing of such an event.

    That still seems to lack specific animus and intent to run over that particular person. But any of that would be easily over shadowed by the FYTW clause.

    They’d get him for first degree if he had run over her while leaving the scene of a bank robbery, so what do I know?

  17. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. I don’t know why I am so angered by this story about Minnesoda making AGW a “standard” that should be taught in science classes. Maybe because every education major I have ever run into is a complete moron?

    Opposition to climate science in his classroom is “purely political,” he said — kids tend to take on their parents’ political beliefs.

    Most skeptical students rethink their views once they learn the science, said Johnson, who’s been teaching five years in Pine Island public schools. He’ll show them data on warmer winters or earlier ice-out dates.

    Assuming your data hasn’t been “adjusted”, temperatures do not “prove” that humans are causing it. But I’m sure they will discuss the tradeoffs and decide if spending trillions to fix a problem that will cause billions of dollars of damage is worth it.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      spending trillions to fix a problem that will might cause billions of dollars of damage or provide unprecedented economic boom is worth it.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Schools of education are indoctrination centers for the NEA and their DNC handlers.

    3. “Idi Amin Apologist”

      “The world is heating up and you’re all going to die unless we tax your parents into oblivion!” is not science. It’s an article of faith.

      1. “Idi Amin Apologist”

        “It’s one reason why Nowell and teachers across the state are welcoming proposed science education standards that would, for the first time in Minnesota, teach that humans are the primary cause of climate change.”

        This is supported by exactly zero climate scientists. There is no way to prove such a definitive statement.

        1. The Last American Hero

          If by zero you mean 97%.

          /progtard

    4. Suthenboy

      It is to climate science what creationism is to biology. This is about as big a fuck up as they can pull off.

    5. 1) is the globe actually warming, taking into account known natural processes and biases in the data?

      2) is this warming outside the bounds of normal variability?

      3) how much of the warming is anthropogenic?

      4) how much of the human cause portion is due to other known processes (urbanization, et al)?

      5) is the warming bad?

      6) is there a viable solution to stopping the warming?

      7) is the cure worse than the illness?

      You have to give the right answer to all 7 before I even think of getting on board the climate change train. As far as I can tell, we have a squishy positive answer to #1, and possibly #2, but it falls off the rails on #3.

      1. I. B. McGinty

        1) maybe, probably trying to achieve balance

        2) depends on your definition of normal

        3) is a smidge a unit of measure?

        4) shhhh… it’s all due to Trump

        5) it’s bad for the coat industry

        6) extract CO2 from the atmosphere I guess

        7) we all die eventually

      2. The Bearded Hobbit

        3) how much of the warming is anthropogenic?

        This is the part that grinds my gears. There is a number that is actually available. It is widely acknowledged that human sources are 4% of planetary CO2. And that is for a chaotic system where the total CO2 numbers can change by 5% just by natural causes (Mt. Pinatubo, for example).

        So the MAXIMUM that humans could vary is 4%. 96%(+/-) grossly outweighs 4%.

        Is the world climate really so precarious that a (say) 10% change of 4% of the atmosphere is a roadway to doom?

        1. I. B. McGinty

          But but but pollutionzzz!!!

          CO2 isn’t even the most dominant greenhouse gas, water vapor is. I would think slight changes in that would have a bigger impact on the naturally changing climate. So much for those hydrogen fuel cell cars…

        2. Is the world climate really so precarious that a (say) 10% change of 4% of the atmosphere is a roadway to doom?

          That’s exactly their argument… The fragile climate model… Laughable.

    6. wdalasio

      Most skeptical students rethink their views once they learn the science, said Johnson

      If this is the truth, why the hell do you object to, you know, actually teaching them, rather than demanding they accept it as an article of faith?

    7. B.P.

      They may want to test market this somewhere other than the frozen northlands.

    8. Fourscore

      “every education major I have ever run into is a complete moron?

      I’m an incomplete moron, so there

      (In a Lily Tomlin voice)

      1. MikeS

        +1 “Is this the party to whom I’m speaking?”

      2. Pope Jimbo

        To be fair Fourscore, you got trained in education before they could really get the indoctrination process down.

        My first roommate at Memphis State was an Education major and asked me to proof read a paper. I swear most of the sentences didn’t even have a verb. It was the worst paper I had ever seen. I corrected a few misspellings and told him to go for it. I was stewing thinking about how mad he was going to be when he got an F and asked me WTF.

        Then one day he came home with a B+. They guy is now a music teacher in Mississippi at some school. Which is probably fine because he was a fantastic musician.

        1. Fourscore

          I remember the PE majors, great ball players but not so hot at readin’ ritin’ and ‘rithmetic.

          Some of the public school teachers I worked with when I did my student teaching had some of the same shortcomings as well. My kids always said “I never had any class” ’cause I never looked back after graduation.

        2. Don Escaped Texas

          Years after I left, a kid told me that a paper I had written was still used by a prof as a favorable example. Mind you, I perfected the adult craft at the University of Tennessee, home of The Hodges Harbrace Handbook used everywhere.

          A native thereof, I can also confirm that the best and worst of everything hail from Mississippi.

  18. Here’s another reason why I don’t have internet enabled devices in my home. “Hey, Brett, could you ask your wife to model that bikini again before you change the password on your webcam?”

    You missed the best part, which was that this was a Canadian hacker who apologized for the inconvenience.

    1. MikeS

      Hey, buddy. Sorry aboot this, but you need to change your password, eh?

      1. From the article:

        “I’m sorry I freaked you out. You’ll never see or hear from me again, so have a good night and I hope all is well and I didn’t cause too much of a pain in the butt.”

  19. Rasilio

    If I still used my Facebook account I would work to try and create a movement where people are constantly posting the Youtube videos and lyrics for Wet Dream and The Bad Touch

    1. Chipwooder

      Love, the kind you clean up with a mop and bucket,
      Like the lost catacombs of Egypt, only God knows where we stuck it,
      Hieroglyphics, let me be Pacific, I wanna down in your South Seas,
      But I got this notion that the motion of your ocean means small craft advisory,
      So if I capsize in your thighs, B5, you sunk my battleship,
      Please turn me on, I’m Mr. Coffee with an automatic drip
      So show me yours, I’ll show you mine, Tool Time you’ll Lovett just like Lyle,
      And then we’ll do it doggy style so we can both watch X-Files

      1. dontreadonme

        Agile, you back?

  20. The Late P Brooks

    the S.S. Mueller fishing trip

    Nice. Now I’ve got the Gilligan’s Island theme song rattling around in my head.

    a three hour tour

    a three hour toooour

    1. Bobarian LMD

      A Sherwood Schwartz Production

      1. C. Anacreon

        Sherwood Schwartz also brought us The Brady Bunch, IIRC.

        Here’s a question that’s relevant — which is the worst TV show with the best song?
        The criteria is that the points are based on how bad the show is, and how good the song is.
        So, for example, Gilligan’s Island, an absolutely awful show, did have a pretty catchy tune, which is also quite the earworm.
        I could see some of you voting for I Dream of Jeannie as well.
        But my money is on F Troop — totally kick-ass song, and the opening credits make it seem like it’s going to be the best show you’ve ever seen; but then the actual program starts, and you’re stuck with Ken Berry, Larry Storch and Forrest Tucker, all unlikeable actors, trying to do unbearable cowboys-and-indians Borscht-Belt shtick.

        1. Florida Man

          Knight Rider.

          1. The Last American Hero

            Winner.

        2. I could see some of you voting for I Dream of Jeannie as well.

          You leave Barbara Eden alone! She was a gem!

        3. Spudalicious

          “Gilligan’s Island, an absolutely awful show”

          SHUT YOUR DIRTY WHORE MOUTH!!!

          Gilligan’s Island was an integral part of my after school binge watching schedule.

          1. B.P.

            Also, this.

        4. B.P.

          I’ll cast my vote for Laverne and Shirley.

          Conversely, the best-show-with-worst-theme-song prize goes to Seinfeld.

          1. whiz

            Somehow the song fits the show. The song writer is just as good at writing songs as Jerry is at acting!

          2. Milwaukee L&S was better than Happy Days! More gifted physical comediannes in their element than dopey Ron Howard.

          3. Friends is up for worst theme song. That thing is annoying.

        5. MikeS

          Miami Vice

          1. Count Potato

            I just listened to it, and concluded you must have been high.

          2. MikeS

            It was totally awesome in 1984.

        6. Don Escaped Texas

          Hawaii Five-0

          1. dbleagle

            Later seasons of M*A*S*H

          2. MikeS

            If we get to use partial show runs, then Season 5 of The Dukes of Hazzard wins, hands down.

        7. Fourscore

          Batman

        8. The Banana Splits. Great theme but the show never met the expectations set by the premise.

          1. Raven Nation

            Oooh, good call. I can still hear the beginning of the theme in my head but could tell you nothing about the content of the show.

          2. C. Anacreon

            Which cam first, the Banana Splits theme song or Bob Marley’s “Buffalo Soldiers”? Because there’s definitely some overlap between the two.

          3. Count Potato

            The Banana Splits theme song, but I’m not hearing the overlap.

          4. C. Anacreon

            Buffalo Soldier refrain:
            Woy yoy yoy, woy yoy-yoy yoy
            Woy yoy yoy yoy, yoy yoy-yoy yoy!

            Banana Splits refrain:
            Tra-la-la, tra-la-la-la etc. to almost exactly the same tune and meter.

          5. That’s dead on, tell me someones done a mash-up.

          6. Raven Nation

            Wiki says song recorded 1978, released 1983. Banana Splits ran 9/1968 – 9/1970.

          7. Count Potato

            Anyway, if they do a mashup, they should use this cover:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flMS2gHFOH0

          8. You weren’t on enough drugs.

        9. Raven Nation

          The Archie Show

        10. R C Dean

          Mission Impossible.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Slate employees engaged in other forms of protest, including hour-long periods during which they refused to respond to their managers on the workplace chat hub Slack.

    Get Nike on the phone.

  22. Count Potato

    “In November 2017, Chase ran afoul of the law after she was allegedly caught going on a joyride in a possibly stolen car. She was charged with a a felony driving without the owner’s consent in that incident.

    Ten months prior, Chase was detained by LAPD detectives after she left a dying man in a car outside a hospital.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6484397/The-Ring-star-Daveigh-Chase-charged-drug-possession-warrant-issued-arrest.html

    I wonder if they got it on tape.

    1. CPRM

      Best known for voicing Lilo in Disney’s Lilo and Stitch, as well as staring as Samara in The Ring and Samantha Darko in Donnie Darko

      Huh, you don’t say.

      1. SoberPhobic

        Pixie body + Easter island head

    2. She looks like not fun.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of global warming enthusiasts-

    I saw a newly minted talking point, the other day. Some witty retort about how “gravity doesn’t care if you believe in it or not.”

    I’m pretty sure gravity experiments produce repeatable results. Can the AGW True Believers say that?

    1. Akira

      I’m pretty sure gravity experiments produce repeatable results. Can the AGW True Believers say that?

      Hell no. You’d think that if they had this all figured out like they say, they wouldn’t leave such an embarrassingly huge trail of failed predictions behind them (e.g. the polar ice caps will be completely gone by 2012; NYC will be underwater by 2015).

      Imagine there were some guy on TV who was always predicting catastrophic market crashes, but he never seemed to be right. The market never seemed to do what he said it would. If people became skeptical of this guy and began ignoring him unless he delivered further proof of his theories, nobody would call them “anti-economics” or accuse them of ignoring reality.

  24. Count Potato

    “The singer, 26, wore a white crop top emblazoned with the words ‘protect kids not guns’ – following the news that 2018 has been the most deadly year yet for gun-related incidents.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6482623/Miley-Cyrus-makes-political-statement-gun-control-T-shirt.html

    WTF is a “gun-related incident”?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      There was a gun within 100 yards of an incident.

    2. Molon labe mother fuckers!

    3. Chipwooder

      Tell ya what, bitch, I’ll give up my guns when you give up your highly paid, heavily armed private security guards. Deal?

    4. Rebel Scum

      WTF is a “gun-related incident”?

      Whatever it needs to be to drive numbers to suit the narrative. A few months ago I informed an anti-gunner that “school shootings” include negligent discharge in which no one is injured or killed. Needless to say, that didn’t matter because (if I remember correctly) “guns shouldn’t be “discharging” on school property. Why do you hate children?”

      1. Rebel Scum

        Also, my shirt would say “Use guns to protect kids”.

      2. Akira

        My favorite slippery gun-grabber term is “gun deaths” – ya know, the one that includes suicides as well as justifiable shootings by police or citizens; e.g. things that do not exactly bolster an argument against gun ownership.

    5. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

      You know, like the Civil War. This year was much worse.

    6. Enough with the Miley Cyrus. Go back to Demi Rose.

  25. “Idi Amin Apologist”

    “One of the really sad developments of my adulthood is to see sex being thrown back in the closet. Just with the moral scolds changing sides.”

    This was probably the most predictable action ever taken by social media companies.

    Good thing so many people screamed “muh, private company” when people complained that banning Alex Jones (and now a whole ton of people) was setting a bad precedent. I honestly could care less about this. If people have issues defending free speech then they really shouldn’t be surprised when it’s their speech that ends up getting restricted.

    1. leon

      Your just a sex trafficking appologist.

      1. “Alice Cooper Band Apologist”

        After drug trafficking, sex trafficking is my favorite kind of trafficking

        1. Bobarian LMD

          It’s why it’s important to have a big trunk.

          “I like big trunks and I…”

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      We truly are a fading empire.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Miss Poland for the win

      1. C. Anacreon

        Miss Switzerland looks Latina?

      2. Bobarian LMD

        WTF? Miss Canada, not a single hockey stick on her costume…

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Miss Puerto Rico’s costume looks like an old prop for The Thing. What the fuck?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You’ll get her vote anyway, because she’ll cut you if you don’t.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Jeezus

          She’ll get your…. aw fuck it, joke’s gone stale

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Having the big hands out like that are probably appropriate.

  26. Chipwooder

    BTW, Mike. what did you think of those Misfits songs?

  27. Winston

    So what makes buying off hookers so unusual when Trump does it? Am I missing something?

    1. Sean

      Orange man bad.

      That’s it.

      1. Winston

        If that’s true that’s real Banana Republic shit.

        Also what does it say that the only guy willing to stand up to the Deep State is Trump and that is due mostly due to his own ego?

        And Trump doesn’t have too many allies to save him from the Deep State.

        1. It shows that any sort of “tipping point” in this country was passed generations ago.

        2. wdalasio

          As I’ve said before, though, if they remove him over this, I genuinely think the crap will hit the fan. Even as a campaign finance “crime”, it’s a joke. He was going to pay them off with his own money. Claiming that anyone involved thought it was a campaign contribution is laughable. Sure, it’s tawdry. But, nobody voted for Trump because they thought he was an exemplar of public decorum.

          If they take out Trump with these accusations, a lot of the public is going to feel that they just had their duly elected leader removed with little more than a bunch of hand-waving. The resulting government is going to have a crisis of legitimacy with a lot of Americans.

          1. Sean

            Almost 63m people voted for him. That’s a lot of our population to piss off simultaneously.

          2. A lot of those people voted against Hillary, and don’t necessarily have great allegiance to Trump.

          3. Sean

            That’s fair. Even at 50% (very conservative), it’s a large swathe of America.

          4. “Alice Cooper Band Apologist”

            True. But, going from “literally colluding with Russia” to “campaign finance violation” is not going to sit well with voters.

            Not to mention how many people are exposed as fools

          5. wdalasio

            True. But, I don’t think it’s Trump, per se, they’ll be angry about. Voting against Hillary was probably a proxy for voting against corrupt elites. If the usual suspects remove him without a substantive justification, rather than a technicality, the message they may well interpret from it is that elections have become pointless – no matter who they elect the corrupt elites will seize power.

          6. wdalasio

            going from “literally colluding with Russia” to “campaign finance violation” is not going to sit well with voters.

            And even “campaign finance violation” is a stretch. This isn’t Trump was paying off Daniels out of campaign contributions. This was Trump having his lawyer make an arrangement to pay her off and he’d pay the lawyer back. Yeah, it’s tawdry. But, extramarital affairs are usually a pretty tawdry business. But, they aren’t illegal. And trying to handle it discretely isn’t something that strikes me as meaningfully criminal.

          7. Viking1865

            “That’s fair. Even at 50% (very conservative), it’s a large swathe of America.”

            Yep. There’s 2 million people who voted for Trump in VA and MD.

            If 1% of those 2 million grabs a rifle and just stands outside the Capitol during the impeachment, that’s 20,000 people.

          8. that’s 20,000 people.

            But the government has nukes.

          9. wdalasio

            But the government has nukes.

            So they’d nuke D.C.? Sounds like a win-win to me.

          10. So they’d nuke D.C.? Sounds like a win-win to me.

            *checks expiration date on thyroid blockers*

            Dammit!

          11. Rebel Scum

            The resulting government is going to have a crisis of legitimacy with a lot of Americans.

            I questioned the legitimacy of the gov’t before it was cool.

        3. grrizzly

          Apart from Devin Nunes and perhaps a couple of other Representatives, Trump doesn’t have anyone on his side against the Deep State. And at times I’m not even sure if Trump is firmly on that side.

          1. Winston

            And at times I’m not even sure if Trump is firmly on that side.

            Well I did point out his opposition is due to mostly his own ego…

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      He pays them in free Trump Resort vacation weekends, complete with a complimentary intro to the benefits of timeshare ownership.

    3. It’s a classic Honey Pot sting. You don’t want people in power being beholden to shady characters because they have sex/gambling/crime issues.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        You don’t want people in power being beholden to shady characters

        Huh, Considering the number of politicians with sex, money, or drug problems I’m sure that may be SOP.

      2. Winston

        You don’t want people in power being beholden to shady characters because they have sex/gambling/crime issues.

        So every politician ever then?

        1. leon

          No you see if they engage in it a lot they don’t care, but we all know that Trump wants to protect his name and reputation.

        2. That’s why it’s a classic.

        3. Bobarian LMD

          Most of them don’t have any issue with the sex, drugs or gambling, just with the getting caught.

          That’s what makes Trump so refreshing.

  28. Rufus the Monocled

    Is Gruden gone yet?

    https://isgrudengoneyet.com

    1. No, but Minnesoda fired their OC today.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        The Eagles need him back. Like, I’m disappointed he hasn’t been announced as an offensive assistant already.

        1. Certified Public Asshat

          The Eagles can’t run the ball anyway, so he is a good fit.

      2. The Last American Hero

        Was the OC supposed to line up next to the center and keep Frank Clark out of the backfield or something?

  29. “Alice Cooper Band Apologist”

    “Fun House” is the Stooges’ “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” album

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz9NZJOkJB0

  30. Tundra

    Are we gonna talk about that football game last night? It was amazingly bad from start to finish, but luckily it cost a dude his job.

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      This Bears fan says. “Thank you.”

      1. Tundra

        Glad to help.

    2. “Alice Cooper Band Apologist”

      Agreed. Go Bears

      1. Tundra

        Looks like they won’t even need to break a sweat for the rest of the season.

        I want the Vikes to get smoked by the Dolphins next week. They kind of deserve it.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Troll

    3. Some of us already talked about it.

  31. Pope Jimbo

    I’m officially inspired now. Minneapolis plans to one day have an all-electric fleet of buses.

    Metro Transit took a bold step Monday with plans to one day have all of its buses powered by electricity, joining other cities across the country making the move away from diesel fuel.

    “It’s an aspirational goal, but we think this plan is set up to be fully successful,” Brian Funk, Metro Transit’s deputy chief operating officer for bus said at Monday’s Metropolitan Council Transportation Committee meeting.

    1. Tundra

      They weren’t hemorrhaging money fast enough. Pikers. They should get together with the LRT fucks and really cook up a plan.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I admit this story is total Tundra-bait. But I have one more quote to share before he strokes out.

        Electric buses can be up to eight times more efficient than buses operated with diesel fuel or compressed natural gas, APTA said. But they are more expensive — 60-foot electric buses cost about $1.2 million vs. $700,000 to $800,000 for diesel buses.

        EIGHT TIMES MORE EFFICIENT TUNDRA!!!!!

        This is like them putting solar panels on that Hennepin County public works building. They were crowing about it saving $15K a month in electrical bills. But then it was pointed out that the cost of them was $900K and would only break even in 2070.

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          forget where you read this, but the all electric HVAC could be made in Minnesoda by Minnesodans!

          TK was one of my favorite clients once. Bloomington FTW !

        2. Suthenboy

          They are not more efficient. They are wildly, fantastically less efficient.

          1. Mad Scientist

            But they make all their pollution over there where we can’t see it!

          2. Spudalicious

            ^This^

            One of the best innovations I’ve seen was at a landfill in California, of all places. They used the methane produced by the garbage to fuel the dump trucks.

        3. Rebel Scum

          eight times more efficient

          Define “efficient”.

          1. Don Escaped Texas

            A hybrid might make some sense: city buses and garbage trucks start and stop a lot, so regenerative braking might help.

            I hate cute stuff like that, though, so in all my years in automotive I carefully avoided such projects.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      With a lot of hard work and tens of millions of dollars of cost overruns and graft I’m sure they’ll make their dream a reality.

      1. MikeS

        …until the following January when the entire fleet shuts down in -20F.

    3. Florida Man

      Buses kind of make sense. High torque, lots of starts and stops and centralized fueling/charging.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        So does natural gas for them as well if you’re looking for diversification of fuel sources.

        1. Florida Man

          I think the buses here run off NatGas.

        2. blackjack

          I work at an airport and about 75% of the fleet is nat gas. Mostly cng. They all run horribly and we constantly chase misfires and driveability issues. You can buy gasoline powered vehicles that are cleaner and more efficient now. Cng is mostly good for running near crowds, like the tram rides at amusement parks. I used to work on LNG trash trucks and they seemed better, but still not as good as diesel. There’s a reason Petrol was chosen early in the IC game. It’s better.

      2. Mad Scientist

        Totally unforeseen consequence: the city will have to buy double the number of buses so 50% of the fleet can work while the other 50% is parked somewhere charging.

    4. I prefer acoustic buses.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        I always read into people what I want to read

    5. Bobarian LMD

      aspirational

      Is that where you choke on your own vomit?

  32. MikeS

    Any Minnesodans heard anything about this?

    Ex-Muslim Christian Pastor, Refugee From Iran, Arrested for Sharing His Testimony — in Minnesota

    “Our conversation was casual. At first, we were not talking about the gospel,” Parsa recalled. “They asked me, ‘Are you a Muslim?’ I said, ‘No, I used to be a Muslim and I’m a Christian now.’ I was telling them the story of how I converted.”

    A passerby could not stand the discussion, however. “Another lady told the guard, ‘This guy is harassing us!’” MOA security came and told Parsa to stop soliciting. “I said, ‘We’re not soliciting.’ But we just left,” the pastor explained.

    The pastor and his friends went into a coffee shop, bought a latte, and came out. Parsa told PJ Media he thought that would be the end of it. He was sorely mistaken.

    “When we came out of the coffee shop, three guards were waiting for us, and they arrested me right there,” the pastor recalled. “They came after me and arrested me, and said, ‘You cannot talk religion here.’”

    Parsa told security he was a pastor. “They told me, ‘We arrested pastors before,’” he recalled, still shocked by the answer. “It was something normal for them, they were used to it.”

    Meanwhile, the two Somali-American women who wanted to hear the pastor’s story argued with the woman who reported him to security. They defended Parsa. Onlookers asked why the man was being arrested. “They said, ‘Because he’s a Christian,’” Parsa told PJ Media.

    1. whiz

      The Mall of America is a private concern, so they can ask anyone to leave. But to have him arrested? Seems heavy-handed. I hope they get sued.

      I do wonder if the pastor was doing more than just talking privately with a couple of people — if not, the person who complained is a real ass-hole.

      1. MikeS

        Yeah, this is coming literally from a single source. It would be nice to see more on it.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        The MOA is run by a giant bag of assholes. They love to clamp down on people and say they are a private concern to stamp out any sort of protests. Which would be OK and I’d support them. Except that in the same breath they will demand millions of dollars from the state to make big upgrades.

        Sorry, but you need to choose one or the other. If you want to control your property, don’t take the handouts. If you take money from the pockets of tax payers, you better not arrest them for gathering in your place.

    2. Onlookers asked why the man was being arrested. “They said, ‘Because he’s a Christian,’”

      I’ll take things that didn’t happen for $1000, Alex.

    3. Don Escaped Texas

      MOA: worst fried walleye ever

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Are we gonna talk about that football game last night? It was amazingly bad from start to finish,

    I didn’t watch it, but I find it hard to believe it could have been worse than the Thursday game. That team should be officially re-named as the Hapless Jacksonville Jaguars.

    1. Florida Man

      DUVALLLLLLL!!!!11!!1

  34. Winston

    Cambodia had an election in July:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Cambodian_general_election

    Nothing suspicious there

  35. Certified Public Asshat

    TW: Soccer

    Spurs survive! And every PL team is through, suck it Ted.

    1. I think a lot of my distaste for the EPL is akin to you beer drinkers’ distaste for IPAs. There are people like me and Rufus who because of our family heritage have followed the sport for a long time (going back to the 82 WC for me, and when some of our German cousins came over in ’88 they were stunned that I knew who Franz Beckenbauer was). But when the hipsters came to soccer they all seem to have latched on to one English team or another, much the way the hipsters took to IPAs. And just as beer companies seem to be foisting hoppier and hoppier IPAs on people (at least from what I can tell by you lot here, since I don’t drink carbonated beverages), the media acts as though the EPL is the only soccer of any import. I think I mentioned how a few years back, Bayern, Man City, and one of the Russian teams were in a CL group together, and due to the time difference the games in Russia were all an early kickoff. Man City’s game in Russia was live on FS1; Bayern were shunted to a higher-tier channel. And the group-stage rematch between Bayern and Atlético Madrid was shunted to a higher-tier channel in favor of Arsenal vs (I think) Ludogorets. But don’t you know it’s fucking Arsenhole!

      The sooner we get back to covering soccer instead of covering a few teams that play soccer, the better.

      (I feel the same way about tennis.)

      1. Winston

        The sooner we get back to covering soccer instead of covering a few teams that play soccer, the better.

        Get back?

      2. Spudalicious

        Why would we want to cover soccer when there’s football?

      3. Certified Public Asshat

        I guess I am kind of in the soccer hipster crowd. Idk though, I’ll stop on Fox every now and then for the Bundesliga and it just doesn’t feel the same. Part of that could be I like listening to British dudes call the EPL while Bundesliga is just some clueless American.

        Can we at least agree there is no point in watching Ligue 1?

      4. (I feel the same way about tennis.)

        Oh, it’s not Federer or Nadal or Djocovic or Murray? Then I’m sure the audience won’t mind if we circle jerk to Serena for 90 minutes.

      5. grrizzly

        Add beIN SPORTS to your cable subscription and enjoy La Liga every weekend. Interestingly, in Spain they show La Liga on some premium sports channel, so I could not watch a Barcelona game in my Barcelona hotel room.

      6. Bobarian LMD

        See, you’re wrong right from the beginning.

        Soccer is not a sport.

        1. Give it a shot on the pitch and get back to me.

      7. Rhywun

        The sooner we get back to covering soccer instead of covering a few teams that play soccer, the better.

        They’re only ever going to push what’s popular – given the low demand overall – and it’s not surprising that the most popular European league is the one in the country we’re closest to linguistically and culturally.

        I do gripe about them always favoring the same 3 or 4 teams though. But that’s not the media’s fault.

  36. Winston

    So is Democracy good or bad? However undemocratic regimes have never been libertarian either. Is it possible to create or even sustain a libertarian elite?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Pure democracy is bad. Mixed forms of government seem to be the best overall. No, I don’t think you can get people to mind their own business long enough to sustain a libertarian elite.

    2. Florida Man

      Privately owned space station with a benevolent overlord. Only way it can be done.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Somalia in Spaaaaaace!!

      2. Dr. Fronkensteen

        The Mormons apparently are on to something.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          There are quite a few Sci Fi stories that included Mormons colonizing planets with varying success rates

          1. Bobarian LMD

            The Mormon Space Station plays a key role in the Expanse.

          2. prolefeed

            As in a key role of being stolen from the Mormons and repurposed to ineffectually try to prevent the destruction of Earth’s biosphere.

          3. Rhywun

            Spoilers!

            I still have to order S03…. which I didn’t because I’m dubious if S04 will ever be released on a medium that I can hold in my hands.

    3. Don Escaped Texas

      a libertarian elite

      Are those top men in charge of giving a shit about not giving a shit

      or merely top men who don’t give a shit about giving a shit ?

      1. Winston

        We need TOP MEN to decide that…and TOP MEN to decide who those TOP MEN are…

    4. wdalasio

      Is it possible to create or even sustain a libertarian elite?

      Probably possible to create. Almost certainly impossible to sustain. Once you create an elite, the incentives for them shift to accumulating power.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Using the McAffee model, any accumulated power would be used to troll anyone who wanted to use the Government in unlibertarian ways.

  37. B.P.

    I followed my kid into a douchey book store/coffee shop the other day. Prominently displayed in the kids’ section was a book about Elizabeth Warren, a hero for our time who overcame unimaginable hardships.

    https://www.amazon.com/Elizabeth-Warren-Nevertheless-She-Persisted/dp/1419731629/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1544566243&sr=1-1&keywords=elizabeth+warren+nevertheless%2C+she+persisted

    Amazon has hipped me to other kid-focused treasures, such as multiple Ruth Bader Ginsburg books and an Elizabeth Warren coloring book. I think I’ll stick to getting my kid books that seem like they’d be interesting to kids.

    1. tarran

      I was in a curio shop in Arlington with my wife a few weeks ago, and there was a display that had books and little knick-knacks honoring Elizabeth Warren and Ruth Ginsberg. My wife, who is apolitical but is aware of my antipathy towards Warren, offered to get me one of the books. I shook my head and said quietly “no thanks”. Turning around I saw the clerk staring at me with an challenging smirk.

      Almost made a crack along the lines of “Why do I need something plagiarized from Mussolini when I’ve got the original?” but thought better of it. I just smiled sweetly and moved on.

  38. MikeS

    Bloodthirsty, Thrilling, and Desperate: An ode to Uno.

    I haven’t played Uno since visits to G’ma and G’pa when I was a wee lad. Good times.

    *reminisces contentedly*

    1. Tundra

      Great game. We used to play all the time when the kids were little.

      1. But Enough About Me

        Uno and Mille Bornes. Wasted a hell of a lot of time in spare periods during junior high playing those two card games.

    2. We started a tradition that when you got to one card, you had to put it on your forehead and say uno!

  39. Spudalicious

    Andrew McCarthy thinks Trump will be indicted over the payoffs. He also thinks they don’t have much of a case and this is all political. Can’t argue with that point of view.

    1. “Alice Cooper Band Apologist”

      He will be indicted. But, McCarthy is wrong. He will be indicted and probably receive the same sentence that people who usually violate campaign finance law get: a fine and no jail time. If you think a media that is heavily vested in “Russia, Russia, Russia” is going to let Trump walkaway after all this without any indictment for anything occurring, you don’t realize how vein the ruling class is in this country.

      1. Tundra

        Blood will tell.

      2. Spudalicious

        His point was that there are too many outs to be able to get a conviction. John Edwards used actual funds and was found not guilty, because if there’s any other reason the payoff could be made other than a campaign, it’s not illegal.

        This is typically handled administratively because of that by the FEC, who usually hands out a fine.

  40. Tundra

    We Put Snow Tires on a Corvette and a Porsche to See How They Handle Snowy Roads

    TL;DR: Porsche.

    I drove my RX-7 year ’round. 50/50 weight distribution and Pirelli snow tires made it a fucking blast to drive in the winter.

    1. SoberPhobic

      Drove my Z-3 2 or 3 winters, no snow tires.

      It was ….. exciting

    2. Tulip

      I drove my trans am all winter, no snow tires. It was…thrilling, at times.

  41. Gadfly

    NR has an article up showing, with lots of nice graphs, how the US elective representation (muh popular vote!) is not irregularly disproportionate compared to other developed nations or historic US norms. The big takeaways: ‘structural bias’ in the US is not static but changes over time (alternating between favoring one party or the other), the US has the second lowest turnout among developed nations (ahead of only Japan) while having the second largest number of people per representative (behind only India), and the French government is consistently the least representative of how its people vote while Germany is the most.

  42. “Sex Trafficking Apologist”

    Theresa May’s government is collapsing. I don’t think voters are going to suddenly elect “Remainer” MPs, but who knows. It seems that the political class in Europe is just making it worse for themselves.

    CC: Germany

    1. Winston

      So Brexit is in real trouble while France and Germany are in serious trouble. Can Europe get more messed up?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Hi Winston
        /not a troll

      2. Gadfly

        Can Europe get more messed up?

        It’s Europe: the answer to that question is usually “Yes”.

        1. Winston

          Silly Me. Another World War can always happen…

        2. Bobarian LMD

          Germany says “Halte mein Bier, bitte!”

          1. Winston

            In all seriousness: is that a proper translation?

          2. Rhywun

            It’s proper German. The concept would likely translate into something completely different though.

          3. Bobarian LMD

            It is what Google Translate said it was.

      3. The Last American Hero

        It was pretty messed up about 100 years ago.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      Try sticking with one handle, like Tulpa, you fucking troll

      1. “Sex Trafficking Apologist”

        Never

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          We’ll see….

  43. prolefeed

    Tuesday Titties — Slim Stacked Blonde edition (possibly NSFW):

    One

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/22/dd/35/22dd352871eb32c24a51d6aea293af5e.jpg

    1. 5, 6, and 7 got me feeling some kinda way.

      1. dontreadonme

        Five makes me feel alive.

  44. Don Escaped Texas

    as we discussed earlier, fun science can still be terrible business

    Right now you can’t buy this fuel, though, because the company’s pilot plant removes just one ton of CO2 from the air each day and produces only about two barrels of synthetic fuel.

    IOW they’ve got their basis under $100 a gallon, so the Permian will be going off line any day now.

    With investors that (sic) include Bill Gates, Carbon Engineering has spent $30 million perfecting this process.

    At least I didn’t hafta pay for this nonsense . . . yet.

    1. The Last American Hero

      What are the emissions from needlessly burning millions of dollars?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I use bottles of CO2 like it’s going out of style, freely blowing it all day, all over the place, but if I lose over an ounce of refrigerant that can’t be accounted for…….
        10k fines for all. Explain that one…..

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          Isn’t CO2 usually produced by fractional distillation: so it’s basically catch and release?

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            I have no idea, but since they are “bad” gasses should not the punishment be similar?
            The whole ozone thing was a scam from day one,

    2. Suthenboy

      Two barrels of synthetic fuel will yield how many calories? How many calories expended acquiring them?

      This is horseshit. It is a scam. The reason the atmosphere contains so much CO2 is because it is the end product of so many reactions and is not very reactive itself. It is an end product and not very reactive because it is the lowest energy state. You have to climb back up the energy hill to separate it. Unless they have come up with some catalyst I dont know about they are expending more energy than they are getting out in the end.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        right

        I cut to the chase, though: it doesn’t make any money sense . . . because it doesn’t make thermodynamic sense. The engineer in me is bored by this; the finance guy, though, wondered: who would pay for this crap?

        1. Suthenboy

          You have to ask who has to pay? *hearty laugh* The same people that paid for Elon’s electric car scam. It’s a scam for subsidies.

          You are right. I have often argued that people who dont understand money are missing that money is a measure of how well something works. If it is cheaper to run a gas car than an electric one it is because the gas car is more efficient. Also, if you have to subsidize something that is because it is a bad idea.

      2. Rasilio

        Well if you used a small molten salt nuke plant to power each of the carbon capture units and then used the resultant fuel for transportation needs it might just be more efficient than building all of the necessary infrastructure shift to electric cars so I suppose there would be some logic to it.

        1. Suthenboy

          Not for the people pushing this crap. Their goal is to destroy western civilization. Destroying the economy is just part of that. Find something that works well and they will howl and tear their hair that it must be stopped.
          I predict that if we get a successful electric system our use of electricity will rise by several orders of magnitude and the same people pushing it today will be screaming about all of the heat released into the atmosphere by electric transmission lines. End electricity!

          1. Suthenboy

            Oh, and all of those electric motors are going to produce a shit-ton of ozone.

  45. Gadfly

    Apparently the Supreme Court has agreed to consider a case that could re-litigate how much leeway the bureaucracies are given to interpret their own regulations. Fingers crossed that they pare back the state a little (although I’m not counting on it).

    1. Don Escaped Texas

      bureaus can unilaterally alter the deal after the fact ?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The fact that they agreed to hear it is good news in of itself.

    3. commodious spittoon

      If Gorsuch and Kavanaugh both vote to constrain the power of executive agencies, it only proves what a fascist Trump is.

    4. I need to hurry up and finish my article on Chevron deference. Either that or wait until that opinion drops.

      1. I’ll say that it’s not as clear cut as it seems on first blush.

  46. Winston

    As a non-interventionist, I think we shouldn’t go abroad in search of monsters to destroy, and I think a gas tax could help inform the average voter of the true cost of intervening overseas unnecessarily. The numbers simply aren’t there to fund the entirety of our modern military through gas taxes, but at linking such taxes as a mere percentage could be enough to change both our energy system and the reflexive action of our military-heavy foreign policy. At very least, this funding method seems vastly preferable to paying for our military more or less exclusively by discouraging productivity through an income tax or discouraging savings through inflation.

    https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/yellow-vests-arent-an-argument-against-green-taxes/

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      No, gas taxes are way too high as it is, cut out the overseas adventures first

      1. Tres Cool

        HEY YUFUS!
        I was thinking about you earlier….Im back to fighting with the honeywell p.o.s. gas valve on my water heater.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          What’s it doing?

          1. Tres Cool

            Turns itself off with a ‘sensor fault’. I let it calm down, re-light the pilot, and set the temp. Burner goes to high-fire for about 30 seconds, then trips the same fault and shuts itself off. Seems they store fault codes, so I did a ‘re-set’ from an article I read from 2004 where you short the pilot/burner inputs. So far it’s holding. Id like to just replace it with a $17 mechanical unit from Home Depot.

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            Vent blockage or combustion air block, Or, your sensor is in the wrong place

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          Check the vent for blockage
          Check to see there in no water on the grate below the burners, that’s your combustion air
          Check the inlet pressure, it needs to be 3.2 to 3.5 inches w.c. for natural gas, and around 7 inches for LP.

          1. Tres Cool

            Inlet and exhaust are clean as a whistle. And no water.
            I dont have a manometer handy, so I cant measure water column, and I aint about to cobble one from bendy-straws and a ruler (Ive done that).
            So far she seems to be behaving, so maybe what I did rigged it enough.

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            I should be afraid for you, but you’re a redneck drunk who climbs shit for a living, so you should be fine

          3. Tres Cool

            Oh, if there wasnt a gas/water leak after I replaced the whole valve a month ago, safety is under control. And despite a fresh CO monitor, the dog will buy it 1st anyhow.
            Ive read a number of articles that say these controllers are garbage from the factory.

          4. Russian Kia Drives Yusef

            It’s still a gas valve, just a microprocessor attached, more excess craps. “Let’s add a controller, it will be great!”

        3. Suthenboy

          Obligatory: Did you check the thermostat?

          1. Tres Cool

            Isnt the V for vertigo ?

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            It is shutting off early………

          3. Suthenboy

            I realized that after I posted. Joke is on me if it turns out to be the thermostat.

    2. Suthenboy

      I dont know who that is. Are they more people claiming to be libertarian while arguing for progressive/socialist horseshit?

      1. Suthenboy

        I see ‘change our energy system’ and ‘raise taxes’ in there so that answers my question.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        “I see consumption taxes, including those on fossil fuels, as preferable to taxes on productivity, such as income and corporate taxes. Further, I see taxes on fossil fuels as preferable to subsidies on alternate fuel sources, especially as dedicated funding for road maintenance or the military.”

        Make of that what you will.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Huh, Austin Peterson’s an admin over there.

        2. Suthenboy

          Attempts to engineer the economy via govt dictate . Let’s stop hitting ourself on the right side of the head with a hammer and start hitting the left side.

        3. Yusef drives a Kia

          Gotta tax something…..

        4. Mad Scientist

          “Further, I see taxes on fossil fuels as preferable to subsidies on alternate fuel sources”

          You’ll just end up with both.

        5. R C Dean

          My production is your consumption.

          Fossil fuel taxes put a tax on the input to every productive activity. They are a tax on production.

  47. Don Escaped Texas

    It’s just so obvious that Americans are pansies and getting worse

    Her patients were weak. More specifically, their grip strengths, recorded via a hand-held dynamometer, were “not anywhere close to the norms” that had been established back in the 1980s.

    Get a grip, Babs!

    1. Spudalicious

      “Is it supposed to be this soft?”

      1. Tres Cool

        A guy I was once the service with once said, “I’ve fucked so much with a soft dick I can shoot pool with a rope”.

    2. whiz

      This reminds me of the cable commercial about how recent generations have lower testosterone levels.

  48. Rebel Scum

    If I still used my Facebook account I would work to try and create a movement where people are constantly posting the Youtube videos and lyrics for Wet Dream and The Bad Touch

    And Closer.

    1. Suthenboy

      Facebook is committing suicide.

      1. Tres Cool

        Let it burn.

        1. Spudalicious

          Burn it to the ground.

      2. But Enough About Me

        Facebook is committing suicide.

        Part of me is sad, ’cause I use FB to stay in touch with — and find new — models for my portraiture hobby. (Yes, you may all now indulge your fantasies about how I’m boffing nubile young things in between photo sets, you filthy, filthy people.*) Nevertheless, there are other ways to scout, and FB’s become a real PITA the last year or two, so bad that I now routinely call it “antisocial media” in my inner monologue.

        They may not need to encourage free speech on their private platform, but if I went back in a time machine to a decade ago and told people that FB would routinely censor relatively mild sexual language (as their new policy seems to imply) because they’re trying to be “woke,” I don’t think anyone would believe me. The Iron Laws are once again demonstrated to be true.

        *Really, it’s part of what makes you all so lovable.

    2. Rhywun

      Sign in to confirm your age

      no thanks

      1. Florida Man

        I think it’s stupid you have to put in your birthday for alcohol websites. It’s not like you can order the booze without proving your age. Is it really going to turn some teen into an alcoholic because they read about the latest release from a distillery? Also, since when do kids never lie?
        /end rant

        1. Spudalicious

          You don’t even have to put in a real birthdate. It just has to be over 21.

          1. Florida Man

            I know, it is so stupid. Card me in a bar, I don’t care, but reading about booze should be free to anyone.

        2. Raven Nation

          There’s a law here that kids under 18 (or maybe 21?) can’t ring up alcohol purchases at the cash register.

        1. Rhywun

          Oh, I know the song very well already tks 🙂

  49. Semi-Spartan Dad

    Drake, if you’re still around, here’s my perspective on your farm question. We have a hobby or Gentleman’s farm. It’s not my main source income. We run cows, a bull, donkeys, goats, chickens, and a large garden.

    The cows and goats can be milked. Their calves can be sold on the hoof or slaughtered for meat. We get eggs from chickens, but I care more about them for tick and spider control around the house. We probably break even on the animal expenses, but I’m not concerned about it. We enjoy working with the animals and get the best food you can find. I probably have less upfront on our livestock acquisitions than our more serious brewery hobbyists do on their equipment/ingredients. You can set up an LLC to expense your equipment and pay taxes on your profits if you want to go that route. If you buy a tractor, look at it the same way you’d buy a used sports car or nice boat. It’s a luxury, but you can get enjoyment out of it. You’ll never break even unless you buy an old tractor and can keep it going yourself or you hire out for jobs… and probably not even then. Because I’m not at the point in life where I can freely buy a used sportscar, we just pay a neighbor $30/hour to use his tractor when its needed. An excavator and operator can be hired for $80/hr.

    As far as land costs and backbreaking labor goes, both can be negligible. The mortgage on my 30 acre property, 2 story barn, 4 car garage workshop, and average-sized house is probably 1/3 less than the typical suburbanite and 1/6 less than someone living in an urban blue stronghold. I’d still live there even if I didn’t want to have livestock. I can fish at my pond, shoot on my own range, and pretty much do whatever I want.

    Labor can be backbreaking if you choose it. I put up a half mile of field-fencing our first year here. Now I hire out a farmhand to do that shit. My labor costs are probably less than the average person pays for a lawn service. Still, it’s a good idea to do everything yourself first so you know how it’s supposed to be done. If you don’t want to run livestock, farmers will pay you in cash to cut hay from your pasture.

    The difference between having your own outside income and relying on the farm to survive is night/day. We have very little pressure and gain a great deal of enjoyment from it. You would be fine in retirement as long as you’re not relying on the farm income. Don’t quit your day job until you’ve started and are already turning a profit.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      That’s good info, even if you buy a farm, thanks

      1. Russian Kia Drives Yusef

        Or don’t

      2. Semi-Spartan Dad

        I’m glad you enjoyed it.

    2. Good read SSD! As somebody who eventually wants to be where you are now, it’s good to hear something except that it’s a great way to turn a big pile of cash into a small pile of cash.

      1. Semi-Spartan Dad

        Thanks. I may expand this out into an article with some pictures. It’s on my list.

        The negative reactions was from friends and family were overwhelming when we first announced our move. You would have thought we were going to Somalia. Now those same people have done a 180.

        1. Suthenboy

          That sounds like an excellent idea. Would. Read.

      2. MikeS

        #metoo!

        I also can’t wait for the article

    3. commodious spittoon

      I need to ask the commentariate for insights on living off the grid and writing manifestos sometime.

    4. Drake

      Thank You! And I second the article and pictures idea.

  50. Bob Boberson

    Things have been little slow here as is usual after 6PM EST on the evening link. I got bored and decided to take a peek at TOS…..it’s been said before by nearly all of us but golly do I not miss that place.

    Hihn was banned but he’s proving he was Tulpa all along by alternately posting his shit screeds as John Galt Jr and Ellis Wyatt and the mods at reason do nothing. Everyone one else is doing the usual sophomoric posts and talking past each other if they don’t go straight to junior high ad hominem on the first response. It took bout 5 minutes to remember how that place was never even close to what this place is and has become. Even on slow night I’d much rather be here.

    1. Suthenboy

      What is even sadder is that most of us spent our time there because it was so much better than everywhere else.

      1. Bob Boberson

        Thats a sobering, and true, thought. I tired Disqus on a couple other sites and quickly realized nobody was inclined toward or capable of adult conversation.

      2. Florida Man

        Before this site popped up, I just abandoned the Internet after leaving TOS.

      3. C. Anacreon

        Very true. I’d been all around the internet and had been a regular poster on various discussion sites and never had anything close to the dialogue we had on TOS. Every other board was full of ham-handed people who were like caricatures, they were so limited in their ability to think, and they all seemed to resent any levity, let’s just stick on point people! But then finding the old place, which was sometimes thought-provoking, sometimes hilarious, but always a great read, and truly enjoyable to post on. So sad what happened to it — and the concurrent realization that Reason itself thought so little of the commenters — but the result was the creation of this site, which has proven to be a hundred times better than TOS on its best days. I don’t say thanks often enough, but thanks all of you behind Glibs, and all of you who engage with the site, even you lurkers out there. You are all good people, except Tulpa of course.

        1. Suthenboy

          Did you tell me once that you went to a Reason gathering and were snubbed by either Welch or Gillespie when they found out you were one of the sites commentariat? I may be misremembering. Whoever told me that I found it to be very informative.

          1. C. Anacreon

            I was at the FreedomFest a few years ago and chatted with Welch at the Reason booth in the exhibit hall — I wouldn’t say he snubbed me once I said I was a commenter, but he did say he’d never seen my screen name (which I didn’t mind because I’m not the most frequent poster) and he was a little smug about the commenting section in general. He asked if I knew Gilmore, I guess he really didn’t care for Gilmore’s fashion report on every Independents tv show, which was still on at the time. And he posed for a photo with me, but the Reason intern kept screwing up trying to snap the photo, so Welch got pissed, and I ended up with a picture of him scowling in anger and his elbow blocking my face.

          2. Suthenboy

            Must have been someone else. They told me the instant he outed himself as a commenter the guy, whichever one it was, turned his back and walked away.

        2. But Enough About Me

          You are all good people, except Tulpa of course.

          Aaaaaand since we’re all Tulpa (er, “Tulpae”?), none of us are good people. Way to damn with faint praise, d00d.

          1. commodious spittoon

            If we’re all good people, none of us is good people.

  51. Trashy rants about his job:

    Rolling out a super urgent top priority due-before-Christmas project 2.5 weeks before Christmas is not fun. Doing so and requiring us to meet with senior leaders in other departments on short notice less than 2 weeks before Christmas is a shitshow in the making. Requiring us to then meet with our own management less than 1.5 weeks before Christmas is getting close to impossible. Finally after all that bullshit, we can actually get to the meat of the project. Something that would take 1 or 2 months if we actually cared about the quality of the results. And they wonder why our turnover in my department is >50% over the last 18 months.

    1. Suthenboy

      Whoa. Over 50% in 18 mos? That is more than a red flag. That sounds like a sinking ship.

      1. Russian Kia Drives Yusef

        Or Amazon…

      2. New management has plugged some holes and drilled a few more of its own. It’s really hard to change a company’s culture when you don’t bring in much new blood.

        1. R C Dean

          With that turnover, you should have plenty of new blood.

          1. Mainly at the bottom. I’m in the upper half of seniority in the patents team after 18 months. Of the 5 layers of management between me and the top, only 1 was hired from outside the company. Not a bad stat if things are going well. A harrowing stat when things are going poorly.

    2. Rhywun

      Wow. My company would more-or-less just basically write off December.

      1. We usually do, as well. You can’t file patents when all of your inventors are on vacation.

        However, this has been the year of the tail wagging the dog in our department, and the department head over promised to the c-suite, which means they get worthless data instead of late data.

    3. commodious spittoon

      ….Who needs any sort of project done in time for Christmas? St. Nick got some workforce priorities he needs straightened out in time for the big day?

      1. commodious spittoon

        Ugh. Work flow priorities

    4. Tres Cool

      I was once hired at a firm as a project manager, only to realize after talking to someone from HR that I was the 12th project manager in 10 months.
      …questions I know to ask now

    5. Akira

      That sucks. It’s almost like TOP MEN (either government or corporate) don’t know what the fuck they’re doing half the time.

      Our department is massively overworked right now. Everyone is working nights and weekends and still not getting everything done, and what does get done is done half-assed. On top of that, other departments are fucking things up that cause more work for us, and management doesn’t seem very interested in fixing that. Every week we give our boss pages and pages of documented errors from other departments, and she gives it to the higher-ups, but nothing seems to change. Finally, the company keeps taking on new business but not growing our staff proportionally.

      The fact that our work is done half-complete and half-assed means that the customers are massively unsatisfied, but we’re the ones who get to take the angry phone calls, so nobody else really cares.

      I’m already looking for a new job. I regret that the rest of the people will be in an even worse spot if I leave, but it’s a quality of life question at this point. I don’t have a family to support and I have no love for that job whatsoever, so I’m basically throwing my life away by spending that much time at work.

      1. But Enough About Me

        Punch out, d00d. No reason to hang around a company that is that massively screwed up.

        1. Akira

          Yep.. I’ve seen the writing on the wall. Time to move on to the next chapter.

          But it still sucks because my previous position at this company was awesome. It was fairly easy work, pretty much stress-free once you got it down pat, it paid better, and it was on second shift (which I prefer). We rarely dealt with outside customers or even other departments. It was work that was monotonous but still varied enough to keep you awake. On slow nights, we’d usually get everything done and spend the rest of the night playing on our phones or reading books unless something came in for us to work on.

          Then they moved that position to another state (I did have the option of moving there, but I don’t really want to uproot my whole life like that) which is how I ended up in this current position. Ironically, I’m “downstream” from my previous department, so I have to fix their fuckups. I constantly go on internal angry rants about how badly these clowns are fucking up “my” job and how I would have done that shit right the first time.

          Oh well, the job market seems to be booming. Something will turn up.

  52. hayeksplosives

    Totally off topic.

    Babylon Bee (a Christian version of the Onion) put a meme on Facebook posed the conundrum: “If God is both all wise and all powerful, why did He allow the Star Wars prequels?”

    I love that website.

    1. Akira

      Haha, spot on.

      I liked the original trilogy a lot, but as far as I’m concerned, those are the only Star Wars movies.

  53. hayeksplosives

    My husband was fiddling with the oven and found the “Sabbath” mode. He is now Googling i and trying to make sense of it,

    Shalom, evvybuddy.