So we’ve made cider and wine, let’s move on to what is commonly claimed to be the oldest fermented beverage in the world, Mead. What is mead? Mead is a fermented beverage where the majority of the sugars are coming from honey. Honey is naturally antibiotic, and is unique in that it doesn’t spoil (while it will crystallize, it stays edible). So, since we want the yeast to survive, we’re going to need to water it down. There’s several different paths you can go to add water to the honey, each with different drawbacks:
- Boiling – Get water up to boiling, then add in honey. This runs the risk of scorching the honey, as well as driving off aromatics, but will ensure that the honey is equally mixed into the water. You’ll also need a way to cool the must before putting it into a fermentor and pitching yeast.
- Hot water – Get water up to ~160 F, and mix in the honey. This will help the honey dissolve, but will drive off some aromatics. This also may require some method of cooling before putting it in a fermentor and pitching yeast.
- Cold water – Mix water with honey. This will require more mixing and more stirring to make sure the honey is fully dissolved, has the highest risk of infection (still not a high one), but preserves the honey aromatics the best.
You won’t need any new equipment for making mead, but you may need a couple of additional ingredients. Yeast nutrients and yeast energizer. Fruit (and barley) have the compounds that yeast need naturally occurring in them, honey does not. While you can make mead without yeast nutrients and energizer, using both will help the yeast do well and convert the sugars into alcohol. With the cost of honey, it’s well worth the extra couple of dollars to ensure a good ferment.
There’s an ongoing debate in most of the mead forums about the best way to use yeast nutrients, with everyone certain that their way is the best (sound familiar?). You can either add it all in at the beginning of fermentation, you can do step additions (add 25% at the beginning, then an additional 25% each following week).
For those who think there’s too many different styles in beer, there’s a large list of different types of mead. For those of you here, I’m guessing the most popular will be:
- Braggot – A mead made with malted barley and honey
- Capsicumel – A mead flavored with chili peppers
- Cyser – A mead that users cider instead of water to dilute the honey
- Hydromel – A light/low alcohol mead (think around 5% ABV)
- Pyment – A mead that uses grape juice instead of water to dilute the honey
- Sack mead – A strong mead with more honey then a standard mead (to get to ~15% ABV)
For your standard mead, plan on between 2.5-4 lbs.of honey per gallon. Adjust as you wish for higher/lower ABV, and based on if you’re using a fruit juice to dilute (which will have sugar of its own). Be aware of the different types of honey, and realize that they will have different flavors when the fermentation is done. I recommend starting with small batches until you find something you like, then ramping that up to a higher volume.
Now for the recipe of a mead I made that came out really well, and should be ready for your next Thanksgiving. Yes, I’m talking about the one in 2019, most meads do well with a lot of mellowing and aging on them. Since it’s a 1 gallon batch, I generally bottle this into about ten 375 ml bottles instead of risking only getting four and some change into 750 ml bottles (remember that there’s sediment you don’t want in your bottles).
Cranberry Mead (1 gallon batch):
- 1.5 lbs Cranberries – Reduced to juice (or just buy cranberry juice)
- 3.5 lbs honey
- Water to top off to one gallon
Blend the cranberries (or buy juice) and run the resultant liquid through a filter. Mix that with 3.5 lbs. honey and top off with cold water to get to one gallon. Shake it up (which will both aerate it, and make sure that the honey is mixed in with everything else) until the honey is dissolved. Figure out what nutrient schedule you want to use, and pitch a white wine yeast. Fermentation will take at least a month, so be patient with this one. After fermentation is done, wait for it do drop clear (sediment will settle at the bottom of the carboy), then bottle it up.
Booze.
First.
Nonsense. I’ve been drinking booze hours before this article and your subsequent post.
Ince this wasn’t getting answered in the last thread, and seems more on-topic here, I’ll repeat my question.
Okay booze people. I have here a 50mL bottle of Glenfiddich 18year old single malt scotch whisky (no e). Where’s this stuff supposed to rate amongst that family of alcohols?
That’s one of my favorites. I’m about half way through a bottle right now.
It’s right around a hundred bucks a 750 ml bottle .
It was $9.99 for the 50mL. I figured I’d give the top shelf a chance before I wrote off scotch forever.
Before you write off scotch, give this a try: https://us.thebalvenie.com/our-whisky-range/view/doublewood-12/
They want too much information just to show the site. I know they have no way of knowing I put in a random date, but seriously, it’s none of their business.
https://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/balvenie/balvenie-doublewood-12-year-old-whisky/
They don’t want it; the government does.
I haven’t opened this one, as I said it’s 50mL, so when I open it, it’ll be emptied.
Right now I’ve tried a few other small bottles on an empty stomach and I’m in the “I’m not trying to get drunk” waiting period before even thinking about opening more.
If I may be so bold, I’m of the (probably minority) opinion that most Scotch is improved by adding some clear, clean water (no spring water! — that stuff’s got too much dissolved solids and will “cloud” your Scotch) to the glass to get the ABV content down from the 40%+ range to around 25% or thereabouts, thus reducing the risks of the high ABV “burning” your tastebuds and ruining your ability to actually taste the Scotch.
Use a snifter or other glassware that can concentrate the aromas to your nose, and let it warm slightly (or do what I do when I’m being lazy, and zap it for five seconds in the microwave). Then try it.
If’n you still don’t like it, well, it’s not for everyone.
All of my favorite boozes are in the 60-100 proof range. This is based not on a desire to get drunk but what agrees with my palatte.
Well, 60 proof’s 30%, so that’s not too far away from my target. Some people refer to that most precise of measurements, “a splash” of branch water (which also doesn’t seem to have a precise definition). Okeydokey then.
A Speyside aged in different barrels including sherry barrels. It’s going to be on the sweeter, milder side along the lines of MacCallan but not as much sherry. Peat and iodine flavors will also be minimal. Not my favorite style but a lot of people really like it.
Th only distilled spirit my stomach will accept anymore is gin, so I have no idea. Boy do I miss whiskEy though. Damn stomach!
I’m so sorry you’re stuck with the twiggy spirits.
That’s going to be one evil looking spirit.
Wow. Looks like the lovechild of Twiggy and Paris Hilton.
So mead came before beer?
Based on the stories I’ve read, that is the current belief. You’ll get mead if you water down honey and let it sit. Beer takes a bit more steps to convert the starches into sugars before fermentation takes place.
Does not compute.
Without that, there is no fermentation. One thing I still haven’t tried making that intrigues me is acerglyn, which is fermented maple syrup. The cost would make it a bit prohibitive to experiment with though ($10-$20/lb).
Just tap the sugar maples in your bakc yard and don’t boil down the sap as far, save on both fuel costs for reduction and watering the syrup back up to fermentation concentrations.
/New Yorker
As for the ‘does not compute’, I’m not arguing that it’s a necessary step, I’m just not seeing why anyone would water down their honey intentionally if they didn’t know what would happen.
I’ve got a couple of maples in the yard, I don’t think they’re sugar maples though. I’m going to guess that acerglyn isn’t that good (or doesn’t compare to the value of reducing the sap down into syrup), or at least some sugar maple farm would be making it commercially.
As for the discovery, most guesses are that it was accidentally discovered. Unfortunately, humankind’s record keeping skills weren’t that good back then.
What if instead of boiling the sap down to syrup and re-diluting, you just didn’t reduce the sap as much? Obviously, you could only do this if you had your own trees.
Isn’t that what I said?
I’ve heard you can make syrup from Box Elder, but haven’t found much information. Because those damn things grow like crazy and are impossible to kill, so if the syrup is any good and can be made in large enough quantities, that could be a booming business. Something I want to look into more but always forget to.
Maple sap is too dilute to brew. It needs to be reduced to get a reasonable sugar concentration to make booze.
I have a friend that used sap instead of water in a beer recipe. It added good flavor and boosted the ABV by several percentage points.
One thing I still haven’t tried making that intrigues me is acerglyn, which is fermented maple syrup
I used to have a recipe for birch beer (as in beer, not birch beer soda) made from birch sap. I have no idea where it is.
The best guess I heard was beer was first, an accident with some discarded bread dough ingredients being thought to be the start.
What I has read was that rain water had gotten into grain storage.
I think I’ve heard that one as well.
I put the full frames of early honey in the freezer as I pull them from the hive. When we harvest (spin out) the honey in the fall some water from the frost accumulates in a pan along with dripping honey from the frames. Instead of 18% water (as in most honey) this honey will have 30% or more water. There is always a little debris, from wax particles, dirt, dead bees etc that will start a fermentation process. We bottle that and sometime later I’ll notice the lid has raised. When I open the jar there is a distinctive odor of alcohol. No yeast has been added, just whatever is in the “dirt”. We’ll get a few quarts of this special stuff, has its own flavor that I like.
Mead people are dead certain that mead came first.
Beer people are dead certain that beer came first.
Wine people are dead certain that wine came first.
Read Patrick McGovern’s many fine books including Ancient Brews: Rediscovered and Re-created.
I met Professor McGovern once when he was pouring some of the projects he did with Dogfish Head Brewery,
It doesn’t matter what came first, distillation made it better.
True, it made it all cool.
Distillation is how you fixed bad booze.
It does not replace good booze.
Those rotted foodstuffs are not booze until they’ve been through the still at least once.
*puts up fists in olde-timey boxer pose*
You have my pity.
You’re no fun.
Kinnath is Mr. T COMFIRMED!
I was up late drinking last night at a beer club party.
While not hung over, I am still too tired to argue about anything.
Then what are you doing on the internet? These tubes were put in for two things – arguing and pron, and this isn’t a porn site.
I just got done racking a batch of sour ale that I started two weeks ago.
I thought Neph might have another brewing article up, so I checked in.
No need to argue. I’ll write the real story up in my own good time. 😉
A wash for distillation is a different beast then a quality cider, beer, mead , or wine. Although there are distilled products made of all of those items. As home distillation is illegal (and would require too much space to make a good whiskey), I’ll stick to the products that I can make.
I went to a talk of his at the Smithsonian. It was fun.
Chimpanzees will seek out rotting fruit to get drunk. People, being smarter, would have long ago found about alcohol and tried to ferment everything that might turn into alcohol.
So, the answer is, whichever of these raw materials was first available to humans in any given area would have quickly been turned into booze. Honey, being available without any domestication needed, might have been brewed pretty much when humans first speciated.
Mentioned it on yesterday’s evening thread, but if anyone was using Brewtoad to create or store their brewing recipes, they’re shutting down the site at the beginning of the year. So download anything you want to keep before then.
You could be drinking your mead out of this!
That’s a beer cup.
Mead is meant to be drunk from horns.
Yeah, but they don’t have that on cafepress.
I guess it’s a Do it yourself project then.
I had one as a kid, not with knock-off MAGA Prime, but I had one once.
So the lawyers stopped going after you?
My guess is because he’s Making Amerca Gerate Agin
Yeah, the ‘knock off’ design seems to have cleared.
OK, good.
I brewed yesterday. I replaced 3lbs of old pilsen with 3lbs of new pale 6-row. I hit my expected OG. So it works. One more batch to do next weekend, then I am done with beer until next summer.
I need to decide what I’m brewing up to replace the beer I currently have on tap. I’ve got a stout that’s ready to be kegged, so I’ll probably stick to a lighter beer, maybe a saison or a cream ale.
Can you make a good booze from crab apples? I get more of those than the apples I want to eat.
Yes. My cider article is nearly done. I recommend using crab apples in the blend.
between the deer and the other trees dying, my last good apple tree hasn’t produced much the last couple years to harvest, but that damn crab apple tree is always full no matter what.
Do you know what kind of crab apple it is?
Green.
The trees all predate me and were grafted by my grandfather who died when I was 4, so I don’t have any info on any of them.
So you eat them right? What is the flavor profile? Sweet, sour, pleasant, harsh?
Eat the crab apples? No! That’s why I want to make booze out of them. (From what I remember the one time I tried one they are SUPER sour, and I’m a fan of sour apples)
Good. Sour apples are a necessary ingredient in making cider.
When it comes to Mead, these folks are DA BOMB!
If any U.S. Glibs living in the northern border states ever see a bottle of their Traditional or (better yet) their Traditional Dry, buy it. You won’t be disappointed.
Tough breaks for OMWC and other lurking Ravrns fans out there. The Chiefs usually lose a home game every year to a team that they should(at least on paper)beat. The Ravens had,IMHO, the best genetic makeup(Brady’s Kronos like ability to devour his and Gisele/Rhea’s children in order to retain his vitality and playoffs powers not withstanding) to be that team. Best of luck to you and I hope we don’t face the Ravens again this season.
*Ravens
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/423/50570/
*burp
Ravens?
Raven?
Quoth?
The Wizard?
also, the wizard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0iuaxvkXv4
That’s so her.
This guy gets it.
*ventures forth for a minute, assumes the subject matter is in reference to Warhammer 40k playing off a Poe poem without doing any due diligence, slowly backs away*
What? BattleTech is too geeky?
It just never tickles my fancy. Probably because of too many negative connotations I associate to it with my older brother. Don’t take it too personally.
Speaking of…
*quickly sees what my average quickplay score nets*
Lazy play got me 164 on a loss. So even though I suck as a pilot, even I can make a 50.
MechWarrior or gtfo
If it hadn’t been so long since the last real MechWarrior release, I might agree. But the next one won’t be out until at least September 2019.
Sorry, can’t talk now. Playing through career mode in BattleTech.
I haven’t had time. I’ve been trying to turn out the follow-up to “Beyond the Edge of the Map” so the style and voice sound the same.
MechWarrior isn’t that great of a role-playing system. FASA should have stuck to the table-top wargame.
Actually, on further thought, I shouldn’t talk much. I think the last time I bought anything Battletech related was in the mid-90s.
DEG: The newest BattleTech game is a true return to the roots of the series. They’ve even started including the Unseen. The biggest complaints about the game is there’s a lot of mechanics that (at least at release) were not well explained, the RNG can be cruel (a lucky headshot will kill you d-e-d), and the battle animations were slow. I’ve got 95 hours into the game, and I’m loving the newest patch for career mode alone, I haven’t even gotten to any of the Flashpoints (mini-campaigns) yet.
I have to reinstall the mods that reduces the headshots. Every time they patch I need to do that…
I think the last time I looked at a Battletech/Mechwarrior computer game was when Microsoft took over the series. Mechwarrior III I think? Or was it IV? I can’t remember. A friend had it and let me take it for a spin on his computer. I hated it. I never spent money on it.
Mechwarrior II on the other hand was a good computer game.
This is the MechWarrior I was talking about.
“A Time of War” is the name it goes by now.
And I gotta post This here.
Yeah, the result was disappointing, but speaking as a fan of football-the-sport, it was a great, great game.
America’s Team is winning…
You know who else was a Cowboys fan?
America.
No, only the communists. Try again.
You know who else was a Ravens fan?
Hitler.
So you’re saying that Hitler was a superior human to you?
Yeah, I can see that.
Probably Charles Albright
Yeah, they had a 20-0 lead. Decided to give Denver one to make it feel more like a game.
Just sent my cider article to SP.
I am only two behind Neph now.
My opinion as a former, but experienced brewer and mead maker:
Honey matters. Wildflower honey is the most likely to have off-esters (undesirable aromatics) which can take years to ferment out. Orange blossom honey is the most reliable and what I recommend for beginners. Then try a batch of clover honey mead. Then you’re on your own.
I recommend the pasteurization (160 degrees F for five minutes method). You can add the honey at any time, but adding to 100 degree water will mix quickly without scorching. Skim the scum early and often using a fine tea strainer.
I also added pinches of both tannin and yeast nutrient for a more winey experience.
If you’re making a thinner mead you can use champagne yeast for a bubbly experience, just spike with sugar before bottling.
Recipe once I locate the brew log, which I left back next to the cask of amontillado.
“For the love of god, Montresor!”
+1 Amontillado
“In pace requiescat.”
We’ve got Poe all over this thread.
Ok, I’m going to make Kilbasa and air fried fries for dinner, but I’ll leave you with this until I return.
Making hachee stew for dinner tonight. Two more hours of enduring the aroma before it’s ready to eat.
I had to look that one up, but it sounds awesome. Might have to try it sometime.
Breakfast was a 6-egg frittata made with leftover grilled brats and roast potatoes from last night’s BBQ.
After I work out, lunch will be a giant bowl of gyudon plus shrimp (because protein).
Not sure what dinner will be, but I’m also boiling some broth to make ham and bean stew (with my homemade tasso ham).
Burger and Imperial Stout for lunch, more IS for afternoon football, and I’m stuffed. I did pulled a package of lasagne out of the freezer for dinner but I’m going to have to switch out the booze.
Still undecided on dinner. We had potstickers for lunch and first game.
Apropos of nothing, from National Lampoon c.1980:
Sirs:
I suppose it’s time I told you that I’m a little clay puppet. Look at my head, my face…Now that I’ve told you, it’s amazingly clear, isn’t it?
Garrison Keillor
At his summer house in the trunk
of an old oak tree
Mmm…homemade chikun stur-fry
Im having that later this week!
You monster….did you dig through my Kroger bags ?
Dear Lord, that was a painful drive (Williamsburg to Cville in about 4 hours). I-64 E of Richmond wasn’t bad. W of Richmond was a nightmare (not helped by my wipers gradually icing up and reducing visibility even after stopping twice to clean them). Cville itself was a freaking mess – a few ploughs around but you’d barely notice. Pretty sure the office is closed tomorrow and I’ll be working from home. Definitely need a break after this 3 day drill weekend.
You know who else had a painful drive ?
The Dark Eldar?
Me when I golf?
The porn newbie doing her first BBC anal scene?
15+ inches here (mountain in Western North Carolina). Our neighbor who plows for us got stuck right outside his driveway, so no plow till at least tomorrow afternoon. I wouldn’t drive if you paid me, even the F250 would struggle with chains.
Dang! So, is that snow going to stay all winter, or will it likely melt?
Should be gone here in a couple days – sunny in the 40s the next couple of days. NC got hit harder though – heard from my folks – who thankfully didn’t lose power in Hillsborough this time.
40s by Tuesday, so I should be able to get out by Wednesday. Parked my car at the neighbors only 200 ft from the secondary road, but I sure as shit am not interested in walking 1 mile down and shoveling my way out 200ft x 15 inches x 6 feet of snow. And I would have to do it at 2 in the morning to make sure I got to work on time.
Bloke on the Range shoots a M95 Mannlicher.
Also from the 1989 National Lampoon:
Sirs:
No, π² was on first. The vast expanse of time we call “infinity” was on second…
Hawking and Costello
Catch a Rising Theorizer
I made apple cider donuts topped with an apple cider caramel glaze and sliced almonds. I’m not much of a sweets person, but I want to eat them all. Nom nom nom.
Ozzy Man reviews Mega Compilation #8
Made the weekly ration of 6 pumpkin pies for the tax deductions’ breakfasts all week.
I, unfortunately, am having faux dreamsicle. Again.
You make your kids pumpkin pie for breakfast? Can you be my mom? What is faux dreamsicle?
Yes, I make them pumpkin pies all fall and winter. They get half a pie each. It’s a couple of hours for me on Sunday night and nobody has to cook in the morning. Very efficient. Sticks to your ribs.
I am having surgery tomorrow (nothing serious, don’t worry) and have been on a liquid diet for the last week. I can’t tolerate milk for my protein shake, so I experimented and came up with diet orange pop and vanilla protein powder.
Orange creamsicle smoothie. Good luck tomorrow.
Indeed. I hate having surgery.
Thank you!
Root beer works too.
Best of luck.
And pumpkin pie does sound pretty good for breakfast.
I will refer you to Laura Ingalls Wilder’s Farmer Boy, also known as the food pr0n book. Apple pie was on the breakfast menu. I am not going to make apple pies, but my kids love pumpkin pie, so no brainer.
Thank you for the good wishes.
Good luck, Mojeaux. Hope all goes well.
Thanks, Tonio!
. . . 6 pumpkin pies for the tax deductions’ breakfasts . . .
With a fried egg on top? 8^>
Ha! The point is nobody has to cook in the a.m. and still have a good breakfast.
60 seconds in the microwave. It’s barely “cooking” in the classic sense.
Just Do It. You know you want to. 8^>
One does not microwave pie dough. [shudders like after having read a Sugar Free story]
Crust.
No mead. cowboy stew (black bean chili with corn chips and shredded sharp cheddar) is pretty good stuff