Monday Morning Links of Substitution

Have you seen this man?

Sloopy is getting a bit frazzled, so I am stepping in to do the Linkings this Morgen. If you hear reports of a naked, woad painted man running up and down the streets of Houston, crying out “Freedom!” – I can neither confirm nor deny that is sloopy. So, on to the Substitute Linkings…

Sports – I shan’t say a word about it. Nope. Can’t make me. I don’t care how well the NFL turned out yesterday… *shakes fist toward the East*

History and Birthdays – Many events occurred today, many people of note were born on this day. For a moment, stop and reflect on them.

  1. California pauses, only so slightly, on its march to madness. I am sure this will end up in front of the SCOTUS and Kaliforniuh will be beaten like a drum.
  2. I wonder if we could get some of our politicians in front of a Bangladeshi court? Seems a bit like piling on…but, when it happens to a politician, I have a hard time clinging to my principles.
  3. Too little, too late, knucklekopf. Wait…I did that wrong. Let me try again… “You know who else wanted to remain Chancellor of Germany?”

OK, go to it, in the comments.

“Oh…one more thing…”

Oh, one more thing…I know several of you speak jive, but does anyone speak Brit Tabloid? WTF kind of headline is this?

 

Comments

476 responses to “Monday Morning Links of Substitution”

  1. Drake

    The 2018 World Champion Boston Red Sox are the best team in franchise history.

    While I can think of a better player at just about every position in Red Sox history, never saw a team this good.

    1. WTF

      Hoping next year we see a regression to the mean for the guys who had career years.
      Because fuck the Sox.

      1. Rasilio

        Because fuck the Sox.

        Advice 14 year old boys everywhere can get behind

        1. AlexinCT

          Is this what leads to crusty smelly socks?

    2. whiz

      Well, the ’46 Bosox had a better regular season (by winning percentage, .675 to .667), although they lost to the Cardinals in the World Series. The 1912 Bosox had the best regular season winning percentage (.691) and beat the Giants in the World Series.

  2. Pat

    Only three links and two of them are duplicates. I want my money back!

    1. I have no idea what you are talking about… Oh, and MR. SMITH will see you now.

      1. WTF

        And by “see you” mean….

      2. Pat

        STEVE SMITH OFTEN IMITATED BUT NEVER DUPLICATED

  3. Bangladesh and German links are the same

    1. WTF

      Merkel importing more third world foreigners, I bet.

    2. straffinrun

      No they aren’t. One is made with pork and the other street meat.

      1. WTF

        Oh, that was the wurst.

          1. Not Adahn

            I never sausage a pun.

          2. WTF

            We’ve already gotten a narrowed gaze, so don’t be a brat.

          3. Not Adahn

            To be frank, the pun threads are a crucial part of the Glibs experience.

          4. But the sausage puns always stretch the case to breaking.

          5. bacon-magic

            You’ll like these links…very sage.

          6. Old Man With Candy

            Well, it’s about thyme someone said that.

          7. blackjack

            You really don’t want to know how these puns are made.

  4. Well my son’s high school was evacuated this morning; all students sent back home. Don’t know the reason yet – assuming bomb threat or whack-a-doodle dad or ?

    1. leon

      You send your son to a prominent Democrat for schooling?

      1. No, the Dem is a fellow student.

    2. Kent County dispatchers told 24 Hour News 8 that authorities are “investigating a suspicious situation.”

      1. leon

        Im glad your son is ok.

        1. The bus never even dropped him off – just turned right back. And the middle school is on lock down – heard through the parent grapevine.

          1. AlexinCT

            Some angry teacher go on a destructive bender now that the “blue wave” seems to be just fantasy?

          2. The Last American Hero

            It’s a blue tsunami, quit changing the narrative.

    3. Update – as I predicted a bomb threat. I’ll assume that no bomb is actually on the property; high schooler just wanted a day off.

      1. leon

        If they find out he lives in a be-Trumped van, I might give the conspiracy theories some credit.

        1. Ayn Random Variation

          I was/am so sure that was a Dem operation, and they just had to a white van with Trump stickers to show that they can do whatever they want and the media won’t even question it.
          Kind of like Hillary’s suddenly relevant “intent”.
          Meanwhile the media did a bang up job whipping up even my normal friends into being more angry at Trump than the Synagogue shooter.

      2. leon

        But you can tell your son he’s achieved that coveted victimhood status. Now you just have to find a cause and you can get him in front of cameras Nation wide.

        1. WTF

          Yes, he is now a “survivor” and therefore morally unassailable.

          1. Ayn Random Variation

            Plus he now has the eye of the tiger.

          2. The Last American Hero

            Except you said “he”.

      3. Back in the day, bomb threats meant we got to spend an hour outside while the fire department pretended to search the school.

        1. ElspethFlashman

          Now it means a trip to juvenile detention for the threat-maker, unless he or she is over 17, where they may be in jail.

      4. Playa Manhattan

        There were 4 separate bomb threats at the local high school last year. They had to extend instruction by a week to make up for lost time.

        1. pan fried wylie

          That’s public school for you, 5 days to make-up the lost 4.

    4. I had a flat tire. Thankfully it wasn’t a blow-out at speed.

      1. ElspethFlashman

        I did too.

  5. Drake

    How the synagogue shooting should have ended. Arm yourselves if you live in a free state.

    Alabama McDonald’s gunman killed by armed dad.

      1. Ayn Random Variation

        Lmao

      2. Mr Lizard

        And to think it only took 24 years for Mac Donald’s to get the message.

    1. leon

      The armed citizen is a myth. They never stop an armed gunman. / Sweeps evidence away.

      1. AlexinCT

        The FBI statisticians sure have been hard at work to hide those facts according to some recent article I read pointing out how they ignored more than 60% of incidences where an armed citizen made a difference – based on pure bogus bullshit criteria – in order to keep making the claim armed citizens make no difference. Fucke them all with a rusty lawnmower blade.

    2. straffinrun

      “The gunman, who was not identified, later died of his injuries. The other two injuries were not considered life-threatening.”

      The best happy meal prize ever.

    3. Ayn Random Variation

      Here’s the AP report. No mention of the customer returning fire. I’m still searching for a CNN or MSNBC link, but I’m using google.

        1. Ayn Random Variation

          Ok that was from a different McDonald’s shooting.
          Sorry.
          Still searching for non Fox MSM coversge

    4. Democratic Hitler

      The national media’s going to be ALL OVER this story for sure!

    5. commodious spittoon

      BURGER PUNK!

    6. Pope Jimbo

      I love the fact that the pull quote is all about how one of the employees wished he could “wake up from this nightmare.” Why didn’t they use this as the money quote instead? (Same employee too):

      “He’s my hero. Because I can only imagine how it would’ve went if he wasn’t armed. We might not be here having this interview,” Washington said.

  6. Has anyone worked with Resin Ivory before? Is it sensitive to discoloration, or is it more resilient?

    1. Democratic Hitler

      My understanding is that you have to mix it with equal parts Resin Ebony.

      1. Rasilio

        1/8th ebony so you get Octaroon Resin

        1. WTF

          Also known as High Yellow resin.

    2. Not Adahn

      It’s great stuff. Because it’s 99 44/100% pure, it floats, allowing you to save you knife in the case of a tragic boating accident.

      1. I picked copper fixtures, and I was wondering about treatment to prevent corrosion and what effect that would have on the main scales. When freshly made, it should look very nice. I just want it to stay that way over time.

        1. Not Adahn

          I’ve never used it. The only synthetics I’ve used for knife handles are Dymandwood and some homebrew filled epoxys.

          Those were pretty much inpervious.

    3. Yusef drives a Kia

      Sorry I’m late, Yes it will yellow if exposed to too much UV, i.e. Sunlight.

      1. But what about exposure to chemicals for cleaning copper?

        1. R C Dean

          Or, you let the copper age naturally, which is not bad look at all. I actually prefer it for just about anything other than cookware.

          1. Above all, I don’t want it turning green.

          2. R C Dean

            Probably your best bet is to put a protective coating on it, then.

          3. Of what type? This is part of what led me to start asking about folor retention from the fake ivory.

          4. Not Adahn

            You can polish it without chemicals, just some jeweler’s rouge.

          5. pan fried wylie

            Thin application of oil? Linseed or whatever you use on guns, I’d guess.

  7. straffinrun

    Whenever a corrupt third world country sends a corrupt leader to jail for corruption by what most likely was a corrupt court, I always have a hard time knowing who to cheer for.

      1. straffinrun

        The perfect Jury instructions.

        1. “You will find the defendants guilty, then scold them”

  8. leon

    RE: California. I find it disturbing the amount of effort progressives are putting in to sue the federal government to ensure not one ounce of regulations are ever lost. They have claimed on multiple counts that Obama’s policies are somehow binding on future presidents (Paris accords, Dreamers etc).

    1. “By Any Means Necessary”

    2. straffinrun

      Double pinky swear no take-backs!

      1. AlexinCT

        They were told that this would play out exactly like this unless congress was the one creating the laws, because the presidential pen was not law. They laughed at the people saying this, because they figured they would steal the election for Hillary, and she would double down on more of this evil shit intended to allow leftists asshat politicians to pick winners & losers. Now they are mad that all this corrupt shit is being wiped off the books, not just because it has made Obama’s legacy crap, but because once these things were removed the economy team Obama spent nary 8 years telling us was forever doomed to anemic growth suddenly not only came back alive, but went into overdrive. Nothing pisses the marxist/fascist movement that wants government to pick winners & losers off more than reality showing they are evil. selfish, and stupid fucks.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Yeah, but won’t it be nice when the next president can’t wipe out Trump’s travel ban Executive Order? Because I’m sure the precedent set about Obama’s EO’s being binding will be continued to Trump. RIght?

  9. Fear: The Root of Trump’s power

    That, my friends, is the face of a police state, a U.S. police state. That’s what life is like in a communist country. That Trump is now employing the military to fortify this immigration police state will only serve to destroy freedom and privacy even more. There is one thing you will notice about any article that supports America’s statist system of immigration controls.

    No such article, including any article written by any conservative-libertarian, ever confronts this immigration police state that immigration controls bring into existence. Don’t believe me? Go look at any article, including the recent ones, on any conservative or libertarian website that calls for immigration controls. I guarantee you: You will never — repeat never — find any of them confronting the fact that they are, at the same time, supporting an immigration police state.

    There is a good reason why no advocate of immigration controls, including conservative-libertarians, ever confronts this police-state phenomenon. The reason is this: a police state is the opposite of a free society. What advocate of liberty wants to be in the awkward position of advocating liberty and a police state at the same time? Better to advocate liberty and immigration controls and just remain quiet about the police-state part. Sort of like openly and publicly favoring lightning but remaining silent about the thunder that comes with it.

    1. Pat

      Any law enforcement of any kind entails a “police state”, so defined.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Falls in line with their loose definition of what constitutes as racist and a Nazi.

        1. AlexinCT

          Are you femsplaining here muppet?

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Was that wrong?

          2. AlexinCT

            Angry bitchez are gonna want your muppet sack for that commentary man..

    2. leon

      They have a point. Closing the border is just a simple step to keeping people from leaving.

      1. WTF

        Is that why they are trying to close the border? To keep people in?

        1. leon

          Not now, but set the precedent for having the military at the border and what might happen when the “Democratic” Socialists take Power. Me today, you tomorrow applies to Republicans to.

          1. The border is the one place the Miltiary is Supposed to be.

          2. WTF

            Well, yeah, protecting the borders from invasion is literally their purpose in being.

          3. WTF

            There is a whole range of options between “completely open border that is not secured against thousands of invaders” and “completely closed borders where none are allowed to leave”.

      2. If the “migrants” are armed, does that justify putting military at the border? They’ve stated their intention to violate US territorial sovereignty with the further intention of breaking US immigration laws, at the very least. What would be the appropriate response?

        1. leon

          Honestly? Say “come on in, we’re glad to have you by the way, we just abolished the welfare state.”

          Force the Democrats to publicly concede they can’t have it both ways, either they favor Americans or non Americans. But using equivocating this caravan with an armed invasion in order to place the military on the border for immigration concern is a bad precedent in my mind. It’s further ratcheting State power to fix a state caused problem.

          1. WTF

            Force the Democrats to publicly concede they can’t have it both ways,

            Seriously? The whole point for the Democrats is to keep getting them in and getting them on the welfare state bennies to grow their constituency of government dependents.
            Get rid of the welfare state first, then go ahead and open the borders. But not until then.

          2. Get rid of the welfare state, and finally close the borders.

          3. The Last American Hero

            Kinda like “Obamacare won’t apply to illegals”.

            “You lie!”

            Scandal for outburst during SOTU.

            They now campaign on subsidies for illegals.

        2. FOS

          50 calibers and a lot of ammo

          1. You truly are a specimen of depravity.

          2. WTF

            We should be glad he didn’t say napalm.

          3. Jarflax

            I agree! .50 is an anti-material round, and far too expensive to use here. Also after you shoot 2 or 3 the rest will run away. The breaking point of migrant caravan’s is not all that high.

          4. Warty

            WE GOTTA FUCKIN KILL THEM FUCKIN INVADIN FUCKIN MEXICANS CUZ THAT FUCKIN JEW SOROS IS FUCKIN IMPORTIN THEM

            I TELL IT LIKE IT IS I AINT POLITICALLY CORRECT OR NUTHIN

    3. This is like saying that being in favor of enforcing traffic laws means you’re an authoritarian. Also, this is why Libertarians never win elections. Being in favor of legal immigration but not wanting a caravan of illegal immigrants to pour through the border en masse is not an unreasonable or, dare I say it, anti-liberty position to take. This is very similar to the argument that land ownership is anti-liberty because you’re infringing on the rights of other people’s movement. That’s a fine theoretical, but you’ll find a lot of people in the real, objective world who take great exception to your extraordinarily broad definition of “liberty”.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        +1 gambol

      2. AlexinCT

        Being in favor of legal immigration but not wanting a caravan of illegal immigrants to pour through the border en masse is not an unreasonable or, dare I say it, anti-liberty position to take.

        It sure is considered double plus non-good think however, because it gets in the way of the plans that the statists that see an open border+ welfare state leading to permanent control for authoritarian leftists, have for the future of this nation. That’s why we have the massive effort to blur the lines between legal and illegal. legal immigration hurts the proponents of that authoritarian welfare state.

    4. Ayn Random Variation

      Guess they never read Reason. It’s not like there’s thousands of libertarian websites to search through

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I’m perplexed by Reason’s stance on immigration. They seem to conflate both ‘illegal’ and legal immigration.

        Why come you scared of caravans?

        It’s not a question of fear. It’s a question of law and order.

        1. Ayn Random Variation

          Disappointing. I originally went there because it provided different perspectives than you’d get from other news/opinion sources. I can read one sided disingenuous shit and hear Trump is a Nazi anywhere, so what’s the point.

    5. Ayn Random Variation

      Imma gonna guess the person who wrote this is has no problem throwing people in jail for possessing a gun or for hate speech.

    6. Count Potato

      Twenty years ago you never heard the word “libertarian”. Now I here it all the time.

  10. leon

    Not excited to go to work and here about how guns and Trump are to blame for this latest shooting.

    1. AlexinCT

      Ask them why they feel totes cool defending the biggest Jew haters and defaming people that pointed this out, but now want to pretend Trump, whom is not, is to blame.

      1. Ayn Random Variation

        I just keep asking people why they’re more mad at Trump than the shooter. I still haven’t got any other answer than Trump needs to STFU.

        1. AlexinCT

          Everything is Trumps fault. He managed to win an election they thought they had rigged for Hillary, and for that they will never forgive him or the people that voted for him.

  11. Old Man With Candy

    but does anyone speak Brit Tabloid?

    Cry ‘Bollocks!” and let slip the dogs of war.

    1. AlmightyJB
    2. whiz

      I immediately thought of these Dogs of War.

      1. Chipwooder

        I thought of this one.

      2. AlmightyJB

        Saw Pink Floyd’s Dogs of War concert in Cleveland. Awesome show.

  12. DEG

    “You know who else wanted to remain Chancellor of Germany?”

    Bismarck?

    1. leon

      Palpatine?

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Nosferatu?

    3. Pope Jimbo

      What do a bunch of NoDak politicians have to do with Germany?

      1. Enough About Palin

        True story. Until about a year ago, airfare from Minneapolis to Bismarck, ND was slightly above a thousand dollar round trip. At the same time, airfare from Minneapolis to Bismarck Germany was a little less. Fuck Delta.

        1. AlexinCT

          Monopolies rock man. The people that want to blame capitalism for this shit love the fact government tells businesses how to pick winners and losers.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          I bet it was only $89 to fly into Bismark, ND. It was $1000 to leave. And they’ve got people lined up around the hangar to get the fuck out.

    4. Chipwooder

      Kurt von Schleicher?

    5. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

      Helmut Kohl?

    1. Pat

      How quaint, I haven’t heard any fear mongering about the rainforest since it was the cause celebre when I was in grade school.

      1. straffinrun

        Read the responses? Collective pant shitting is not pretty.

        1. I. B. McGinty

          “We have voices, bodies, and minds”

          Yeah good luck with that.

      2. The Last American Hero

        That’s because they were destroyed by the year 2000.

      3. Ayn Random Variation

        The rainforest is a classic Orwellian terms. It used to be called the jungle, but that sounds scary.
        You know you’re old when you’ve lived through global cooling, the ozone layer, the rainforests, carbs are good, paper bags are bad/plastic bags are good, global warming, plastic bags are bad/paper bags are good, and carbs are bad.

      4. Rufus the Monocled

        +1 Bruce Cockburn.

        1. AlexinCT

          Is he related to Anita Tittyfuck?

    2. Evan from Evansville

      I also remember growing up when the rainforest-being-in-danger was absolutely syringed into every kid in the 90s. My favorite thing to explain to people on the subject is to note how insanely dirty the world was in 1900 compared to now. This never seems to land with the eco-tards but I still feel compelled to always mention it.

      I remember being dumbfounded by the constant Captain Planet shit. Even as I kid I was confused why everyone else loved it. There was a stand up bit that I can’t recall that was about that.

      ‘The bad guys’ scheme is literally just to destroy the environment. There’s no product! You can’t base your company on just polluting full-time! There’s no margin there!’ If someone knows what I’m talking about I’d be obliged.

      Obligatory.

      1. pan fried wylie

        “Clean your plate, kids in China are starving.”

        I’m still trying to deprogram myself and to stop eating when I’m full.

        1. “Then kill Chairman Mao and the rest of the party. Then the Chinese would have food again.”

          1. C. Anacreon

            Your best line ever.

    3. Atanarjuat

      “With just 12yr remaining to remake the global economy and prevent catastrophic climate change, this is planetary suicide.”

      The end is nigh.

      1. whiz

        That’s a lot more time than most of them give us to act, though.

        1. Atanarjuat

          The end is nigh-ish.

          1. Luther Baldwin

            Look, it’s going to take more than one Five-Year Plan to pile up enough corpses in order to “remake the global economy”. Have some patience.

  13. Pat

    Gab.com goes offline after Pittsburgh synagogue shooting

    (Reuters) – Gab.com, the website where the suspected Pittsburg synagogue gunman posted anti-Semitic views, said on Sunday it was offline for a period of time after being asked by its domain provider to move to another registrar.

    The move comes after GoDaddy Inc (GDDY.N) asked Gab to change the domain, while PayPal Holdings Inc (PYPL.O), Stripe Inc and Joynet Inc blocked the website.

    “We have informed Gab.com that they have 24 hours to move the domain to another registrar,” a spokesman for GoDaddy said, adding the site violated its terms of service and hosted content that “promotes and encourages violence against people.”

    Effectively a half dozen or so companies can virtually eliminate your presence from the worldwide web. I don’t want them regulated as utilities or torn up by anti-trust regulators, nor would I even say it’s a market failure. But it’s a truly shitty state of affairs and only marginally preferable to tyranny by a state.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’ve found another host and are moving their stuff over from my understanding. This state of affairs is temporary.

      1. Pat

        If they’re lucky they’ll end up on a shady foreign registrar and host, won’t be indexed, will be flagged by every mainstream browser as a potentially unsafe site. Etc etc. It is what it is.

    2. leon

      Isn’t this the outcome we have always argued would happen. If anything this is the best argument for libertarians when people challenge us on repealing the Civil Rights Act? The whole argument is that the market wouldn’t tolerate it.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        The registrars and various other gatekeepers pick winners and losers and collude with the larger established firms to eliminate competitors. It’s not a good thing.

      2. Pat

        I like to think of it more as the market would provide such an abundance of options that those who best served the widest number of customers would thrive, while others would not. In other words, the “No Niggers” lunch counter could still operate, but it might die off for lack of customers because the “Welcome Everyone” lunch counter across the street would appeal to a much larger audience. In the modern formulation, the “No Niggers” lunch counter loses its ability to access banking services, gets it utilities shut off, and an angry mob burns it down while the cops look on because nobody likes the “No Niggers” lunch counter and are happy to see it go.

        1. leon

          ‘and an angry mob burns it down while the cops look on because nobody likes the “No Niggers” lunch counter and are happy to see it go.’

          Where are the people destroying Gabb’s property? They should be prosecuted. Otherwise if Gab is contractualy owed services, they should persue what they see fit. The fast is that they have found other registrar’s. No where did it say that being on the margin was easy in the market. It’s easy to say now “hey being a racist will be a bad market move, but I bet in some places that wasn’t true”

          The fact is that we (libertarians) don’t want to accept that we are on the margin, and that elite parts of society will do what they can to keep our thoughts down. We have to recognize our position, without wallowing in it.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I think everyone here realizes that most people don’t think like we do politically. Hell, the only reason libertarian sites don’t get the Gab treatment is that we don’t have enough influence for the censorship happy mobs to worry about.

          2. commodious spittoon

            You all laugh at Reason and the cosmotarians, but look, they cozied up to our progressive betters and our betters promised to kill us last.

          3. Pat

            Where are the people destroying Gabb’s property?

            In this particular case that’s not literally happening, although it’s become routine during our perennial Antifa and race riots. Gab isn’t self-hosted anyway, so they don’t have a lot in the way of physical property that could damaged. I only meant it by way of an analogy.

            In any case, I’m willing to admit now that I was very wrong about some of the arguments I’ve made in the past in favor of open markets vis-a-vis competition and a diversity of alternatives to any given market participant. Sufficiently oligopolistic markets leave no tenable alternatives when the dominant players are also sufficiently aligned strategically or ideologically. To be fair, I don’t think there’s ever been a point in American history where that’s really been the case until recently. Even in the Jim Crow south there were people willing to provide goods and services without discrimination, and they were able to access the infrastructure necessary to do so.

          4. leon

            “Sufficiently oligopolistic markets leave no tenable alternatives when the dominant players are also sufficiently aligned strategically or ideologically.”

            Fair enough, though the only group I could see that apply to is payment processing and maybe hosting though there are quite a few hosting solutions out there. I think for the most part those oligopoly’s are protected by regulation that if repealed would hurt that market power.

          5. commodious spittoon

            Beating back the tide of technological illiberalism is going to require cultural and social divestment: quit Facebook, quit Twitter, return to the rich history of advertising newsletters in the backpages of dodgy circulars.

          6. Is this any different from telling someone that, if they don’t want to give up their rights so they can fly commercial, they can just walk or drive

            It would be more analogous to saying that they can just fly a general aviation plane (in a hypothetical world where you don’t need a license and GA planes cost $10k or less)

            I also think there’s a big difference between the who’s asking you to “give up your rights”. In the airline example, it’s the TSA, a gov’t agency. In the internet example, it’s a cabal of companies saying “we won’t serve the likes of you”. Distasteful? Yes. Hypocritical? Certainly. Well within their rights as private companies providing a service in the marketplace? I think so.

          7. Oops, Gilmored it

          8. R C Dean

            Well within their rights as private companies providing a service in the marketplace? I think so.

            I’m not sure I disagree. I’m just wondering what limits there are on those rights, if any.

            Leaving aside our current laws, if an HOA decided that it didn’t like Jews, should it be permitted to forbid them from using the roads in the HOA?

          9. I’m just wondering what limits there are on those rights, if any.

            Honestly, I don’t know. This is where doctrinaire libertarianism gets sticky. Stripping away everything else, I’m having a hard time squaring forcing these companies to sell to customers they find distasteful with my conscience.

            Leaving aside our current laws, if an HOA decided that it didn’t like Jews, should it be permitted to forbid them from using the roads in the HOA?

            This^^ is a much harder question to answer than this:

            Leaving aside our current laws, if a Jewish delian HOA decided that it didn’t like Nazis Jews, should it be permitted to forbid them from using the shitter in the deli roads in the HOA?

            However, I’m not convinced they’re actually different questions.

            If I peel away as many layers of the onion as I dare, the issue seems to be that a company or cabal of companies can accumulate enough power in a region or an industry to be able to deny access to that industry for certain potential customers. Frankly, as somebody who would applaud a repeal of the CRA, I see this as one of those issues that come up when self-ownership is fully affirmed by law. I haven’t found any convincing reason why a bakery can deny service to a gay couple, but an internet company* can’t deny service to a site that they dislike.

            *excepting ISPs

          10. Sufficiently oligopolistic markets leave no tenable alternatives when the dominant players are also sufficiently aligned strategically or ideologically.

            I’m not seeing it. What was Gab owed? An audience? Psh. A business relationship with companies who don’t want to do business with them? Fuck off slaver! An equal footing to Twitter and Facebook? Earn it!

            Gab isn’t owed a megaphone, and they are subject to the whims of the companies whose technology they use to make their site work. This is the case in every market in every industry. If you don’t want to be subject to your suppliers, insource that work.

            Public accommodation sucks, even when it benefits your pony. Freedom of association is paramount, even when it’s your ox being gored.

            The nice thing about the internet is that the barrier to entry is extremely low, so if you’re getting pushed out by the established powers, you can DIY most of it.

          11. It’s less that Gab is owed anything, and more in trying to get the companies punishing them to follow their own supposed rules evenly.

          12. trying to get the companies punishing them to follow their own supposed rules evenly

            Never. Gonna. Happen.

            Have you ever seen the inside of Facebook’s HQ? Have you ever walked the streets of Palo Alto and listened to the conversation?

            They’re so far up their own asses that they can lick their progressive, super tolerant gall stones. Even if they tried, they couldn’t be unbiased because the closest thing they encounter to a conservative on a daily basis is a person who has enough understanding of economics to be a bit nervous of Bernie’s policies.

            To paraphrase Twain in Connecticut Yankee:

            Even if they do their best to be impartial, according to their lights, they are still extremely biased. They are a product of their environment, and they will always favor their fellow travelers on the left because they live in an enclave of varying flavors of progressivism.

          13. Pat

            The nice thing about the internet is that the barrier to entry is extremely low, so if you’re getting pushed out by the established powers, you can DIY most of it.

            You really can’t, and that was my point. You’re talking about multi millions of dollars of capitalization required to bootstrap a social network if you can’t access cloud-based hosting, or even a traditional server farm. Let alone when you are boxed out of basic essentials like domain registration. After you’ve sunk that humongous capital expenditure into the hardware to make your site run, and saying that you can find a service provider to hook you into the internet (that’s coming next, bet on it), you can put up a .onion site and print up some flyers to hang on telephone poles since you won’t be indexed and will be barred from advertising on the ad networks run by Facebook or Google, which accounts for 80% of all ad traffic. And then you can sell it all for 60 cents on the dollar a few months later when your 500 users can’t give you enough money to pay your power bill.

            Don’t get me wrong, I still support free markets and oppose anti-trust. But I’ve often argued in the past that oligopolies and even monopolies aren’t sustainable in a free market and that diverse offerings will always thrive because of the decentralized nature of markets and the nature of competition. And I was wrong. Full stop.

          14. Rasilio

            And that is the point.

            There are no alternatives. It is not like GAB could just go to another provider, nearly all of the providers are governed by the exact same political views and the small handful that are not are actively hindered in other ways by google and similar internet giants.

            No one is saying that companies have to offer GAB any given service but the reality is the TOS needs to be treated as a contract but specifically a contract that the company can either enforce universally or not at all so that any client that you try to boot for failing to adhere to your TOS can defend itself by simply pointing out cases where they failed to impose the same sanction on any other company.

            Then if the hosting service or paypal wants to get rid of GAB as a client they wait till the contract is up and do not accept a new contract with them. None of this overnight banning BS.

          15. Mojeaux

            What Pat said.

          16. You really can’t, and that was my point. You’re talking about multi millions of dollars of capitalization required to bootstrap a social network if you can’t access cloud-based hosting, or even a traditional server farm.

            And you can’t bootstrap a car manufacturer, a pharma company, or an airline without investing billions.

            I don’t understand how this in any way overrides the freedom of association inherent in dissociating from a distasteful client. All I’m hearing are complaints akin to “MARKET FAILURE!!” as commonly paraded by the progs.

            The “no other options” complaint may fly when ISPs get involved, but until then, Gab is more than welcome to start from the ground up.

            The TOS argument is interesting, but I doubt it will go anywhere. Just because the door says “no shirt, no shoes, no service” doesn’t mean that McDonald’s can’t kick a fully dressed person out for other reasons. It also doesn’t mean that McDonald’s can’t kick somebody out for wearing a translucent shirt.

          17. Pat

            And you can’t bootstrap a car manufacturer, a pharma company, or an airline without investing billions.

            True, but also not analogous. The tech oligopoly has a very unique ability to exclude new market entrants because of control of the infrastructure necessary to operate on the web, and they are joined by adjacent industries like banking and payment processing in their efforts. It would be as if Ford, GE and Fiat were able to exclude Tesla from operating on the same roads. Or if Southwest and Delta owned all of the airports and refused to make leases to regional carriers. Or if Pfizer, Novartis and Merck owned every chemical lab on planet earth and only made basic compounds available to companies in their good graces.

            The other part that makes the tech oligopoly unique is the ideological uniformity upon which their collusion against new entrants is based. In most oligopolistic and monopolistic situations the barrier to entry is purely a function of economic scale and market position – new entrants are kept out for financial reasons. In the tech world, companies are actually happy to hemorrhage money and forgo revenue in order to exclude certain market participants who do not conform to their ideology. Most oligopolies and monopolies are amoral. Tech is not.

            Here again, I’m not advocating any intervention in the market. But I ‘m no longer willing to defend a position that’s demonstrably false. The tech giants, as is their god-given natural right, own enough of the infrastructure of the internet and worldwide web that they can effectively bar from participation anyone they wish, and do so routinely for political and ideological reasons. They’re entitled to do that. It’s just a shitty situation, and there’s no practical remedy to it.

          18. Pat

            To state it more simply, a very substantial amount of business and social interaction in this country now operates purely on the benevolence of a couple dozen entrenched interests because they have built up such impressive market positions and share the same ideological orientation. The only way in which this is different from a state is the ability to opt out from commerce with these institutions entirely. However, doing so is extremely difficult while maintaining a modern lifestyle.

            I DON’T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS. It’s not morally wrong. It doesn’t justify any intervention by the state. It’s just frustrating and disappointing. And it will get nothing but worse as the industry further consolidates.

          19. R C Dean

            I hear the “free association” arguments, and am even willing to look past the fact that many people making them in this context are full-on “public accommodation” supporters in every other context. I wonder, though, if there isn’t something different about the internet, which makes it more analogous to . . . . wait for it . . . . roads.

            This doesn’t apply so much to social media platforms as it does to ISPs and content hosting services, but if they are allowed to block people from even having access to the internet, that sounds to me a lot like barring people from using roads. Its not a sufficient answer, in my mind, to say “well, they can just walk wherever they want to go.” That has been the basis for the government’s restrictions on right to travel by various modes (can’t drive without a license, can’t fly commercial without surrendering your rights, etc.). Just because there may be an alternative, doesn’t excuse restrictions on the primary infrastructure.

            Switching analogies to utilities, would we really be OK if an electric company and water company refused to provide services to registered Republicans? And justified it on “free association” grounds and the fact that you can just buy bottled water and set up solar electric at your house?

          20. This doesn’t apply so much to social media platforms as it does to ISPs and content hosting services, but if they are allowed to block people from even having access to the internet, that sounds to me a lot like barring people from using roads.

            Let’s set aside ISPs for a moment. They are a government enforced local monopoly and should be held to a different standard.

            Content hosting isn’t some sort of magic wand. If Glibs was getting blackballed by their host, TPTB could migrate (at a cost in dollars and effort) to a Clinton style server in the basement.

            Sure, it may not be as polished of a solution as cloud hosting, sure it may not be as full featured, sure it may require 10x the maintenance. However, the same could be said for repairing your own car or building your own furniture.

            The ISPs are the only things that can actually block you from the internet, and technology is beginning to take root that would give you many more options in that space. The browser is a distant second.

            Everything else is a convenience. As the saying goes, you have a right to speak, not a right to be heard.

          21. R C Dean

            If Glibs was getting blackballed by their host, TPTB could migrate (at a cost in dollars and effort) to a Clinton style server in the basement.

            Is this any different from telling someone that, if they don’t want to give up their rights so they can fly commercial, they can just walk or drive?

          22. Pat

            The ISPs are the only things that can actually block you from the internet

            Which will happen increasingly, I absolutely guarantee you. And no one’s rights would be violated in that case either. The internet is a private meta-network.

            The above mentioned limitations are still relevant though. You’re not getting it. No one’s rights are being violated when an oligopoly colludes to exclude participation in their market. That’s not the the argument. Not mine, anyway. But don’t pretend that’s not exactly what’s happening. When you can’t register a domain, can’t host your site on third party hardware, can’t access third party networks, can’t have your site indexed, can’t advertise your site, and can’t host advertising on your site, you don’t have a site. You are excluded from the entire chain of commerce related to the worldwide web. If you’re an activist and you’re content with a handful of dedicated users accessing your site over TOR that’s dandy. If you have a business plan that entails launching a service that will compete with any of the incumbents in the commercial space, you’re fucked. End of story. There isn’t a remedy available short of launching a fully integrated service platform from the host and registrar up, and even then you need ICANN and Verisign accreditation, so there’s still a gatekeeper. It’s a uniquely untenable situation resultant not of a market failure, but of the market functioning exactly as it should.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Gofuckdaddy.

      1. Drake

        They and Paypal can seriously go fuck themselves.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          What did PayPal do?

          1. leon

            They stopped processing Gabb’s payments

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            Yeh. Just read that.

            What I find outrageous is based on their reason, they should stop processing Facebook and Twitter.

          3. Rasilio

            I have no idea what the people who own Gab’s financial situation looks like but I would love to see them take Paypal to court over exactly that issue. Claim it as an illegal restraint of trade for unequally enforcing their terms of service or some shit. No they probably won’t win but they could cause a shit ton of damage to Pay Pal in the process and maybe encourage someone else to step up and fill in the gap

      2. leon

        I’ve been saying that long before this crap.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      My only complaint is that their poorly defined codes of civility are not equally enforced.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        By the reasoning they gave Gab none, and I mean none, of the social media sites would make the cut.

      2. AlexinCT

        That’s by design.

    5. ruodberht

      So GoDaddy and Paypal are now going to be liable for whatever they DON’T censor?

      :bar association rubs hands gleefully:

      1. R C Dean

        Not Paypal, since they aren’t a platform.

        GoDaddy, maybe, if it starts deplatforming people based on inconsistently applied standards. If you don’t apply standards consistently, you aren’t acting in good faith and don’t qualify for immunity any more. The real challenge under the current language will be when they stop pretending to be content-neutral, and just say “This platform is only for liberals and progressives”, so that their bans are consistent with their standards. Even then, though, I suspect that they won’t quite be able to bring themselves to ban the Farrakhans and misc. nutters.

  14. DEG

    The case against the Federal Communications Commission’s decision to end net neutrality, filed by California and 31 other states and public interest groups, will be heard by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

    The court’s decision is expected next year with arguments beginning Feb. 1.

    If the court decides the FCC acted arbitrarily and capriciously, net neutrality protections could return nationwide. The court also is deciding if states can regulate the issue on their own.

    I predict shit-show.

    1. Luther Baldwin

      California’s law would restore rules put in place during the Obama era to treat all Internet data equally and bar Internet service providers from slowing, or throttling, speeds, blocking access to lawful content and offering fast lanes for Google, Facebook and Netflix.

      Someone should pass a “road neutrality” law – no fast lanes, no HOV, no tolls, no parking fees anywhere. It’s only fair, right?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “Anti-Semitism without Jews.”

      He hates Arabs?

    2. Count Potato

      “The far-right faction with which Bowers identifies does oppose Trump as a pro-Jewish sellout, citing such betrayals as his support for Israel and the marriage of his daughter to a Jewish man. Those differences between Trump and murderous anti-Semites are hardly trivial.

      Still, Bowers does identify with some of Trump’s goals and rhetoric, because Trump has inspired the racist far right to a degree surpassing any modern American president.”

      More than Obama?

      1. Hurr durr, anti-Trump loon inspired by Trump because Trump a meanie.

        Seriously, they must beat themselves in the head with hammers every night before bed, because this level of stupid can’t be derived naturally.

      2. Rebel Scum

        far-right faction with which Bowers identifies

        Big government collectivism, such as nazism, is patently left-wing.

  15. Florida is too hot:

    Kentucky Dad Apologizes For Father-Son Nazi Halloween Costumes

    A Kentucky father who donned a Nazi uniform and dressed his son as Adolf Hitler for a Halloween event has apologized.

    Bryant Goldbach wore the costumes to Owensboro’s Trail of Treats event last Thursday, local ABC-affiliate WEHT Eyewitness News reported. When photos of the father and 5-year-old were uploaded to Facebook, they sparked an immediate backlash.

    Goldbach initially tried to defend his choice, writing that “anyone who knows us knows that we love our history, and often dress the part of historical figures.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Well, that was stupid.

      I wonder what the reaction would be if someone dressed as Castro, Mao, Lenin, or Stalin. If you really want to fly under the radar, dress as Pol Pot. No one would know who the fuck you are.

      1. Drake

        It would hard to tell him apart from Mao or the one of the Kims.

        1. AlexinCT

          LACIST!

    2. straffinrun

      Some regular guy wears a costume, gets dog piled by the mob and has his scalp waved bravely by Huffpo. How am I not to hate humanity at this point?

    3. DrOtto

      Goldbach = (((troll)))?

    4. commodious spittoon

      OTOH I dressed as T. E. Lawrence a couple years ago. I wonder whether even dressing as a white man dressed in Bedouin garb would be acceptable in this climate. Would it help if I said I’m Peter O’Toole? I’m the white guy dressed as the white guy pretending to be another white guy who wore a dress.

    5. Rebel Scum

      I thought dressing up as evil goblins, ghosts and ghouls was kinda the point of Halloween.

    6. Gadfly

      This costume outrage is silly. People dress as demons and serial killers, so why not Nazis? Part of the point of Halloween is to have one night a year to be transgressive, and to do so in a “safe space” because none of it is real. Dressing as an evil entity for Halloween is no more a negative reflection of personal character than enjoying a video game where you play as a career criminal (such as GTAV – the 3rd most popular game of all time).

      1. Luther Baldwin

        Dressing as a demon or a serial killer means you are pro-demon or pro-serial killer. Duh.

      2. Gadfly

        If I was a bolder man I’d dress up as Ernst Rohm – the gay, pro-labor, undeniably socialist Nazi who was Hitler’s BFF (until, of course, he wasn’t and got cut from the team).

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Only three links and two of them are duplicates. I want my money back!

    Count your change before leaving the window

  17. You obviously haven’t seen my pron viewing history.

    The Train That Only Libertarians Can Love
    Will Florida’s sleek, for-profit rail project become an advertisement for the limitations of bipartisan compromise?

    But a few years ago, a more palatable solution was presented to Florida’s Republicans. The proposed train, called Brightline, wouldn’t quite be “high speed,” which by international standards generally means running on dedicated tracks at speeds over 150 miles per hour, often approaching 200. Brightline trains would run on upgraded tracks laid in the nineteenth century, passing through the centers of many small towns and traversing hundreds of grade crossings, where track and roadway (or track and track) meet. As a result, they would top out at 125 miles per hour. But what really animated Republicans was Brightline’s solution to funding: it would be a for-profit operation funded through private investment. This train wasn’t socialism; it was American free enterprise at work.

    Yet Brightline, which started running between Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach this past January and extended services to Miami in May, has been controversial. While Scott has praised the project for being “100 percent private,” the project is under siege from a broad coalition of Floridians—including many Republicans—who complain that a high-speed passenger train will disrupt their tranquil communities, and who object to the generous subsidies handed out to private investors in the form of what are known as private activity bonds, or PABs—tax-exempt bonds created by Congress and authorized by the U.S. Department of Transportation. Florida’s state Democrats, for the most part, have been quietly supportive of Brightline.

    1. Drake

      So they wanted free, silent, high-speed trains?

      1. Not Adahn

        express trains between every two stops, that leave every seven minutes.

        With en suite puppies.

    2. Pat

      and who object to the generous subsidies handed out to private investors in the form of what are known as private activity bonds

      Just wait until they see the price tag for the bailout when ridership is about 1/4 of the projections and revenue fails to match operating costs.

    3. Gadfly

      In Texas they are also planning a privately funded high speed rail – from Dallas to Houston. Personally, I think if they build it (likely) it won’t be profitable, as it will be a half-hour slower than the airplanes and yet still leave you stranded at your destination (i.e. you’ll have to use ride-share or some other service, as both cities are too sprawling for effective public transport). But at least the Texas plan is set to have only one stop and use bridges over crossings, so it will actually be high speed.

      1. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

        It all depends on the boarding/disembarking flow. If it’s equivalent to planes, then yeah, it’s a pig. If it’s streamlined otoh…it might take a chunk out depending on price.

  18. Pat

    IBM to acquire software company Red Hat for $34 billion

    (Reuters) – IBM Corp said on Sunday it had agreed to acquire U.S. software company Red Hat Inc for $34 billion, including debt, as it seeks to diversify its technology hardware and consulting business into higher-margin products and services.

    The transaction is by far IBM’s biggest acquisition. It underscores IBM Chief Executive Ginni Rometty’s efforts to expand the company’s subscription-based software offerings, as it faces slowing software sales and waning demand for mainframe servers.

    IBM, which has a market capitalization of $114 billion, will pay $190 per share in cash for Red Hat, a 63 percent premium to Friday’s closing share price.

    About 3 more mergers and/or acquisitions and the linux kernel will effectively be a proprietary collaboration between the top 5 largest technology companies.

    Also rms on suicide watch.

    Also also RIP Fedora.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s a good move for IBM, probably the smartest thing they’ve done in a decade.

      There’s a guy locally who was one of the initial investors in Red Hat, he’s having a good day.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Fuck, you just reminded me of one of my acquaintances from my start up days. He got a shit ton of Red Had stock pre-IPO for his work on the networking stack. Great guy, technical networking genius, horrible, horrible business guy.

        I’d love to think he’s richer than shit now, but my guess is that he cashed in long, long ago.

    2. PieInTheSky

      If IBM has payed it’s fair share of tax this would not have happened

    3. robc

      the linux kernel will effectively be a proprietary collaboration

      The license prevents that from happening.

      Also rms on suicide watch.

      yeah, probably.

      1. Pat

        The license prevents that from happening.

        True as far as it goes, the code will still be in the wild, but it will probably become the case that it becomes more and more tailored to the use requirements of the handful of corporate sponsors left standing with other contributions getting short shrift. I wouldn’t be surprised if you see it forked in a few years for other reasons anyway.

        1. Rasilio

          Yes you will have the evil patriarchial Manyx that is developed by a community of mstly male trolls using such colonialist concepts as objectivity and competence and the virtuious Gynix that is developed by a diverse community of all genders and colors freed of such patriarchial colonialist contstraints

          1. Michael

            That is amazing. Bravo.

    4. Michael

      Founded in 1993, Red Hat specializes in Linux operating systems, the most popular type of open-source software, which was developed as an alternative to proprietary software made by Microsoft Corp.

      Unless I am horribly mistaken, the conception of Linux had nothing to do with the existence of Microsoft products.

      1. Pat

        Poorly worded sentence. The complete OS offering from Red Hat was intended to compete with proprietary alternatives from MS (and others at the time, including proprietary Unix). The kernel by itself wasn’t written for that purpose explicitly. In fact, you can see from Linus’s announcement on comp.os.minix that it’s beginnings were much more humble:

        Hello everybody out there using minix –

        I’m doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won’t be big and
        professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
        since april, and is starting to get ready. I’d like any feedback on
        things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
        (same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
        among other things).

        I’ve currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work.
        This implies that I’ll get something practical within a few months, and
        I’d like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions
        are welcome, but I won’t promise I’ll implement them ?

        Linus (torvalds@kruuna.helsinki.fi)

        PS. Yes – it’s free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs.
        It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
        will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that’s all I have :-(.

        1. Michael

          That’s the exact quote I was thinking of. Even though die-hard Linux people claim contrary, Linux never became anything even remotely formidable against the Windows juggernaut on desktops. It had a much bigger impact in the server space against Unix and more recently on mobile devices with Android.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    But what really animated Republicans was Brightline’s solution to funding: it would be a for-profit operation funded through private investment. This train wasn’t socialism; it was American free enterprise at work.

    Are they proposing to get the re-animated corpse of James J Hill to run it?

  20. PieInTheSky

    Why are the links an hour early? I call shenanigans

    1. Nephilium

      I blame DST.

      1. PieInTheSky

        You may be on to something

  21. Suspect in synagogue massacre known as loner

    Half a dozen of Bowers’ posts included slurs against women who had relationships with black men. He uploaded many posts that referenced nooses and ropes and hanging. Nearly 20 posts used the n-word.

    In February, he posted a meme of a Monopoly Chance card with superimposed images of Trump dragging Hillary Clinton to jail. But in May, he wrote that he did “not vote for Trump nor own or ever even worn a maga hat.”

    Earlier this month, he reposted a meme about libertarians who have joined the alt-right movement, which includes white nationalists. The meme is a cartoon figure who muses that he was a conservative libertarian only one year ago but now insists on “mass executing these Marxist degenerates.”

    “The Libertarian-to-Far-Right pipeline is a real thing,” the post said.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The Libertarian-to-Far-Right pipeline is a real thing

      This message sponsored by the Niskanen Center

    2. Drake

      “known as loner”

      Doing it wrong?

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      He’s not completely incorrect: The edgy misanthrope trying to find a place in the world to far right pipeline is a real thing and it eventually attracts a lot of people who are superficially attracted to libertarianism.

      1. Pat

        Tim McVeigh comes to mind, although I’m not sure characterizing him as far right is really all that accurate. He wasn’t overly nationalist or racist from what I understand. If he’d set off the revolution he hoped for we might remember more as a Lysander Spooner type than an Osama bin Laden type, honestly.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          McVeigh was a fan of the Turner Diaries, an explicitly Neo-Nazi screed.

          Volokh does a good job of characterizing him, and he updates his posts as more information comes available.

        2. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Chris Cantwell and Richard Spencer used to call themselves libertarians and if you go over to Takimag or the comments section of Zerohedge you can see plenty of these people.

          1. leon

            This is why I don’t use the argument that Nazis called themselves socialist to prove that they were Socialist. There’s enough evidence through there economic policies to show they were inline with socialism.

          2. Just Say’n

            I don’t think Spencer ever called himself a libertarian. He attended a few Reason events before, but he wrote for The American Conservative at the time.

          3. Stinky Wizzleteats

            On reflection and with a little googling, you’re right about Spencer. Articles are out there that characterize him as a wayward libertarian but he doesn’t make that claim himself from what I could find.

          4. Just Say’n

            The “Libertarian to Alt-Right Pipeline” is perhaps the most strained argument in popular culture today. It all rests on Christopher Cantwell who was always a marginal libertarian figure to begin with.

            Spencer was more of an anti-war conservative and then was fired from The American Conservative when his writing became more fixated on race (also the same reason why The American Conservative got rid of Ron Unz as their publisher)

    4. leon

      “The Libertarian-to-Far-Right pipeline is a real thing,” the post said.

      Isn’t this mostly parroted by the left to attack libertarianism?

    5. Rebel Scum

      Nearly 20 posts used the n-word.

      Naggers?

      Libertarian-to-Far-Right pipeline

      If the spectrum makes any sense (big government collectivism on the left and small government individualism on the right) then libertarians are the “far-right”, but not associated with collectivist identitarians.

  22. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Manic Monday: Halloween Noodle Special

    Diners at a vegetarian eatery in Bangkok were shocked to find minced meat in their noodles, so they made a report to local authorities.

    What the authorities discovered during an inspection, however, was far more grisly.

    The extra ingredient was human flesh instead of minced pork or beef.

    When the police rushed to the deserted eatery, they found its kitchen walls splattered with blood and its floor covered by pieces of human flesh.

    1. It’s like people have never heard of recycling.

    2. Pat

      You know who else was a vegetarian and liked dismemberment?

      1. PETA Advertising Execs?

      2. Mr Lizard

        SAW?

      3. commodious spittoon

        PP-loving lefty vegans?

      4. Old Man With Candy

        Me?

        1. AlexinCT

          Go on…

    3. Spartacus

      So Soylent Green is making a comeback?

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Who could have foreseen this?

    Decades of falling interest rates have led to a sharp increase in the number of “zombie” firms, a report for the Bank for International Settlements said, potentially threatening economic growth and preventing interest rates from rising.

    Economists generally define a zombie firm as one that is at least 10 years old but is unable to cover its debt servicing costs with its profits — a definition that would currently fit the likes of electric car maker Tesla (TSLA.O) and streaming giant Netflix (NFLX.O).

    ———–

    The zombie firms highlight a “difficult trade-off” for central bank policy, the BIS writers concluded. While lower rates should help boost aggregate demand in the economy and raise employment, more zombie companies means more misallocation of resources.
    Chinese investors eye apartments in affordable Athens

    Their survival could also crowd out investment in, and employment at, healthy firms.

    Time for some creative destruction. Take them out behind the barn and beat them to death with a shovel.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      aka The Everything Bubble

    2. leon

      You mean the tech boom could just be a bubble? Yesterday I saw an ad for coding boot camp prep. In other words a bootcamp bootcamp. I still think learning to code can be valuable, but I wonder about how viable some of the market is.

      1. Gadfly

        I still think learning to code can be valuable, but I wonder about how viable some of the market is.

        Without a guild protecting the trade, its market value is sure to decrease. I’d imagine it will be similar with what happened to lawyers a few years back – lawyering was seen as a profitable trade, so a lot of people went to law school, so there was a glut of lawyers and the value of having a law degree went down.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    He’s not completely incorrect: The edgy misanthrope trying to find a place in the world to far right pipeline is a real thing and it eventually attracts a lot of people who are superficially attracted to libertarianism.

    “Wait- and then we just leave those people alone? Where’s the fun in that? What a gyp.”

  25. The Late P Brooks

    “The Libertarian-to-Far-Right pipeline is a real thing,” the post said.

    Isn’t this mostly parroted by the left to attack libertarianism?

    They cannot fathom a philosophy based on leaving people alone (especially people whose thoughts are problematic), so they just assume libertarianism is a hoax.

    1. AlexinCT

      Who would oppose a system where the right people make sure the right people win, and bad people lose, huh?

  26. Merriam-Webster: Time Traveler

    When was a word first used in print? You may be surprised! Enter a date below to see the words first recorded on that year.

    2014: manspreading
    2009: alt-right
    2008: dumpster fire

    etc

    1. Count Potato

      See? Obama caused the alt-right.

  27. LJW

    GAB.COM GOES DOWN IN WAKE OF PITTSBURGH SHOOTING, AFTER FAR-RIGHT SOCIAL NETWORK IS DROPPED BY TECH COMPANIES

    Does anyone know anything about Gab? Do they actually support far right ideology or are they just a free speech platform? Why didn’t tech companies cut off Facebook when they allowed the Russians to help Trump win?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re just a free-speech platform and they’re getting a raw deal.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Oh no. They’re absolutely an alt-right platform.

        This doesn’t mean they should be shut down, mind you, but the “It’s just a free speech” thing got lost when their twitter account was tweeting Jewish conspiracy theories (all mysteriously deleted on Saturday).

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          That I was not aware of. Regardless, if they’re not filtering their users then the practice outweighs the owner’s personal opinions.

        2. Just Say’n

          Is there a screen shot of these posts on Twitter that you could provide?

          I don’t pay too much attention to Gab, but I do know that Twitter still has Farrakhan on its site and even carried a blue check mark until a few months ago. So, maybe these companies should consider not doing business with Twitter too, if this is the standard that we’re applying.

        3. Pat

          Oh no. They’re absolutely an alt-right platform.

          Any platform that doesn’t exercise content controls is, by default, going to be an “alt-right” platform because there is no other alternative. Andrew Torba is an unabashed Trump bro, but I don’t think he’s said anything explicitly alt-right, and the platform was open to anybody.

          1. Any platform that doesn’t exercise content controls is, by default, going to be an “alt-right” platform because there is no other alternative.

            Tolerance is allyship in their minds. The insane amount of danger inherent in that mindset has not crossed their minds.

    2. LJW

      Doh missed the discussion up top. That’s what I get for waking up late today.

    3. leon

      Y’all are forgetting Free speech is far-right. To be mainstream you have to advocate for limits.

    4. Drake

      I signed up for GAB to read a few guys like Matt Bracken and the Z-Man. It was Twitter (as best as I could tell having never signed up for it) with absolutely no content rules. There was plenty of good stuff, a constant influx of people who were thrown out of other outlets, and some bad stuff.

      I viewed it like eating out in the city. You sometimes have to drive through a bad neighborhood to get the authentic cuisine.

    5. Just Say’n

      If you ask PopeHat this is fine, because property rights, which somehow forbids you from criticizing the actions of these companies. At the same time, though, PopeHat is also right to criticize the NFL for its ban against kneeling during the anthem and that’s different because.

      The game being playing by some free speech advocates in order to conform with elite popular opinion is unbelievably transparent. And maybe the best example of that was when PopeHat and Reason tried to say that California forcing pro-life pregnancy centers to post information about where you can attain an abortion was not really a violation of the First Amendment.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        And maybe the best example of that was when PopeHat and Reason tried to say that California forcing pro-life pregnancy centers to post information about where you can attain an abortion was not really a violation of the First Amendment.

        I didn’t realize they had taken that position. The shit you have to do to get a party invite is just sad.

        1. Just Say’n

          https://www.popehat.com/2016/10/17/lawsplainer-the-ninth-circuit-and-compelled-speech-about-abortion/

          PopeHat argues how California is only regulating “licensed clinics” so compelled speech is fine.

          The TOS article was written by ENB and it linked to PopeHat’s post and was very neutral on the argument. And then when the pro-life clinics won TOS completely ignored the ruling.

          That was sort of around the time that I realized that there is a brand of libertarianism that is pretty god awful on free speech and other topics. I had by criticisms of PopeHat and TOS with regards to free speech before, but they were more so degrees of emphasis or how much you have to denounce a speaker in order to defend his right to speak, but in this case it was pretty glaringly obvious that PopeHat and TOS were clearly taking the anti-free speech side pretty much because they didn’t like the principal involved.

    1. That is the Dems’ worst nightmare.

      1. AlexinCT

        Why do you think they are hell bent on killing Kanye West? Nothing is more firefighting to the new plantation owners than African Americans realizing they are being shafted by team blue.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    I’m not saying it’s a shithole, but…

    Still, most people don’t like to pay taxes, and in this the rich are even more like you and me than you and me. Usually. “There is a kind of hypnosis that goes around, that businesses should not support taxes,” Benioff says. “The reality is, unbridled capitalism is not good for anybody, including all the companies benefitting from it. We want society to be successful. We are connected to it, not apart from it.”

    Sounds unobjectionable, right? In fact, no one will go on the record saying “screw homeless people, I don’t want to pay any taxes.” But several of the city’s prominent elected officials—all touting solid liberal credentials—oppose Prop C. They include Mayor London Breed and state Senator Scott Wiener, who has historically supported more resources to attack homelessness and last year sponsored a sweeping bill that would’ve boosted housing construction in the extraordinarily expensive state. “I really struggled with this,” Wiener says. “But this measure was vetted only within the homeless advocacy community and then placed on the ballot. If we’re going to to move forward with a tax increase larger than any we have proposed before, this is not the way to do it.”

    But this measure was vetted only within the homeless advocacy community and then placed on the ballot.

    Sounds legit.

    It’s “well-meaning” imbeciles, all the way down.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Minutes from homeless advocacy meeting: “FREE SHIT!!!!!!11!1Eleven!!!111!!!”

    2. Pat

      In fact, no one will go on the record saying “screw homeless people, I don’t want to pay any taxes.”

      Particularly not in San Francisco, California, USA, which has one of the highest tax burdens in the world.

  29. Pope Jimbo

    The Democrats should really work on keeping things fresh. Especially when the tactic didn’t work the first time.

    Ex-high school classmate of the guy running against Ellison tells the world that Wardlow bullied him in high school for being gay.

    It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Somebody acted like an asshole in highschool? God forbid.

    2. straffinrun

      “He said Wardlow made phallic remarks about him playing the flute in band.”

      Totally depends on how he was playing it.

      1. LJW

        This one time at band camp…

    3. Just Say’n

      “Is calling someone gay in high school as equally bad as beating your wife?”

      The question that many progressives are calculating right now.

  30. KibbledKristen

    Stupid Vikings. At least it wasn’t the playoffs, and at least Green Bay lost too. Aaron Rodgers Twitter was all over that poor kick returner for GB yesterday.

    Is it just me, or is it not that exciting when the away team wins the World Series? Though judging by the sound after the final pitch, most of the stadium was Sox fans anyway.

    1. LJW

      I’m more of the it’s not exciting because it’s the Red Sox group. Near the top of my list of worst fans to deal with.

      1. KibbledKristen

        I hate all but two baseball teams equally. And the two that I don’t hate, I only mildly like and will only pay attention to them when they go to the playoffs.

  31. Mammary Monday is here to start your work week out with a bounce.

    http://archive.is/duYMU

    14, 17, 29, 33, 37, 41, 42, 47, 61, 65. BUT, winner is 10 by a mile.

    1. Pat

      Quite the bounty. 5, 8, 26, 27, 40, 71

  32. The Late P Brooks

    More from Wired:

    The tension is evident elsewhere, in slightly different form. In May, Seattle’s City Council voted unanimously to pass a payroll tax that would have cost the city’s largest employer, Amazon, $22.5 million a year. Amazon pushed back, threatening to stop construction of a new office building. “What we saw happen was a really effective and coordinated campaign to flip the public narrative,” says Katie Wilson, who helped lead Housing for All, a coalition supporting the Seattle tax hike.

    Solving homelessness is not a mystery. A proven model called “housing first,” pioneered in Seattle, has shown that challenges like substance abuse or job training are best tackled by giving people have a safe and stable place to live. However, Amazon and other opponents successfully tapped into legitimate frustration with the lack of progress on homelessness to shift political debate away from taxes and funding a solution.

    Instead, opponents blamed Seattle city officials for spending their budget poorly, arguing that the government is taxing you and giving it to some shiftless drug addicts who don’t even want to come inside, exploiting economic tensions, much the same way Republicans have exploited the racial divide, Wilson says.

    Nice non sequitur; gotta get those talking points in, no matter what.

    I guess only a Republican would complain about pounding ever-larger sums of money down a rathole.

    1. P-R-O-J-E-C-T-I-O-N

      1. Rebel Scum

        Progjection

    2. wdalasio

      A proven model called “housing first,” pioneered in Seattle, has shown that challenges like substance abuse or job training are best tackled by giving people have a safe and stable place to live.

      Proven model? So, I’m guessing Seattle has no significant homeless population to speak of. Seriously, in the next goddamned sentence they refer to “legitimate frustration with the lack of progress on homelessness”. Do these guys even get the notion of what a “proven model” even means? Proven at what? Funneling money at the right activists and Top Men?

      1. Pat

        It’s proven bro. It’s science. IFLS!

  33. I’m loath to use these kind of oversimplified SoCon “good old days” type arguments, but I think the author has a point here.

    http://victorygirlsblog.com/social-collapse-bad-things/

    One thing that I would add: things really kicked into overdrive when people’s primary form of human contact started to come from social media. It creates echo chambers with a (real or imagined) cover of anonymity so there’s nothing to check people’s worst impulses. I noted almost 20 years ago that people in chat rooms were much more likely to be assholes and say things they’d never say to someone in person. Our current environment has turned it up to 11.

  34. Just Say’n

    I present to you, “The Worst Argument Against Brazil’s New President Who Deserves Plenty of Criticism”

    https://twitter.com/EricHolthaus/status/1056739486481170432

    “This is worth repeating over and over:

    The most horrific thing Brazil’s new president, Jair Bolsonaro, has planned is privatization of the Amazon rainforest. With just 12yr remaining to remake the global economy and prevent catastrophic climate change, this is planetary suicide.”

    We all have twelve years to live guys. Then the world is over. Ignore the last prediction that we only had ten years to live from twelve years ago, this prediction is super science-y and serious and stuff.

    1. straffinrun

      Posted upthread, but worth sharing again.

      1. Just Say’n

        Aw dang

    2. Hmmmm… “right-wing” president, kind of a doofus, plenty of legitimate criticisms, instead his opponents resort to smears and outrageous apocalyptic predictions… remind you of anyone?

      1. commodious spittoon

        Reagan?

  35. PieInTheSky

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsliverpool/halloween-liverpool-weather-forecast-as-bookies-slash-odds-on-coldest-ever-november/ar-BBP387d

    bookies slash odds on “coldest ever November” – brits have a strange way of announcing the weather

  36. Count Potato

    “Olivia Munn vows she will continue to speak up for the Me Too movement ‘even if it costs her career’ as she calls for change in Hollywood”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6328381/Olivia-Munn-continue-speak-MeToo-movement-costs-career.html

    So brave.

    1. What happened to her face?

    2. Just Say’n

      “Olivia Munn Vows to Speak About the Me Too Movement in its Efforts to Get the Right People Fired While Keeping Good Thought Rapists on the Job, as Munn is Unwilling to Sacrifice Her Career Over Outing Actual Rapists”

    3. Pat

      When you take to the cover of a widely circulated magazine where you are received with a hero’s welcome, patting yourself on the back for taking a moral stance that might cost you your career seems even more transparently stupid than usual.

      1. Just Say’n

        She is “brave” in the new definition of the word.

        Brave (n.): (1.) taking the popular position on a matter, while insisting that the stand is revolutionary and controversial (2.) without fear (3.) to show valor despite resistance

        Eg: Stacy was brave to declare that President Trump was a Nazi at the Netroots Festival

    4. Drake

      Who? Never heard of her.

  37. Drake

    GAB – A good article on how tech companies have stacked the deck with “adhesion” or “standard form contracts”.

    Their hosting service, Joyent, gave them 48 hours to find a new hosting service while GoDaddy tried to steal the domain name, and PayPal tried to shutdown their cash flow.

    Slavery As A Service

    1. Count Potato

      I don’t see either party taking up that cause.

      1. Drake

        I don’t know nearly enough about contract law to have an opinion on if any of this can be beaten in court.

  38. Luther Baldwin

    In Germany, many begged to differ, especially the anti-immigration and anti-Islam Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, whose angriest rallying cry is “Merkel must go“.

    Literally worse than Hitler.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Do these guys even get the notion of what a “proven model” even means? Proven at what? Funneling money at the right activists and Top Men?

    By George, I think you’ve got it!

  40. Pat

    Silicon Valley’s sovereign wealth problem

    It’s time to bring the conversation about where Silicon Valley gets its money from out into the open. Following recent revelations into Saudi Arabia’s extensive reach and influence in the US technology sector, the willful ignorance that has defined the relationship between venture capital firms and the limited partnerships (LPs) that fund them for years now isn’t going to cut it anymore.

    According to the latest reports from the Wall Street Journal, Saudi Arabia is now the single-largest source of funding for US-based tech companies. Since 2016, the Saudi royal family has invested at least $11 billion into US startups directly, and in August, the Saudi Arabian government committed $45 billion to Softbank’s $92 billion Vision Fund. To put that into context, the total amount of funding deployed across all VC deals so far in 2018 is $84.3 billion — a record for the industry, but a paltry sum relative to the wealth of the Saudi Kingdom.

    Backlash is rising — and that’s a good thing. With tech companies now capturing the lion’s share of global wealth creation, we should absolutely want to know where that money is going. For one, it’s a matter of ethics. The US tech industry generates billions of dollars in returns annually for investors. When that money is being funneled into the coffers of a country with a total lack of respect for basic human rights, that’s a problem. It’s not good for Silicon Valley entrepreneurs and it’s not good for the country as a whole.

    I mean, if tech companies start taking money from repressive middle eastern regimes they might start exhibiting bias, restricting their users’ speech, and accommodating religious extremism on their platforms!

  41. The Late P Brooks

    NOT GOOD ENOUGH

    Black unemployment, like overall unemployment, is, in fact, at record lows. The U.S. unemployment rate fell to 3.7 percent in September, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Since January, the unemployment rate has fallen nearly half a percentage point overall.

    But the unemployment rate doesn’t necessarily tell the entire story, experts told ABC News. Delving into the numbers, the racial disparities become clear. While the outlook’s improved for everyone, it especially improved for whites. Unemployment among white workers slid to 3.3 percent. For minorities, however, the numbers showed little to no change from the previous month. For black workers, unemployment hovered at 6 percent, while it’s 3.5 percent for Asians and 4.5 percent for Hispanics.

    “It’s true [black unemployment] has been declining, but it’s still much higher than other groups,” Valerie Wilson, the director of the Economic Policy Institute’s Program on Race, Ethnicity and the Economy, told ABC News. “It’s the persistence of the racial gap. To me, that’s the bigger challenge.”

    In other words, black unemployment remains the highest — nearly double that of whites.

    “There’s nowhere you’d go in the country and see the black and white unemployment rate as the same — it’s race, any way you slice it,” Wilson added.

    Donald Trump hates black people.

    1. Pat

      Unemployment down, women and minorities hardest hit.

      By the way, the U3 number is still just as much a crock of shit now as it was during the Obama administration and the labor market is still very, very fucked.

      1. AlexinCT

        I don’t know man, I have to tell recruiters to not call me unless they can guarantee me $30K more than I make now to stay on the East coast, and to double my salary if they intend to move me to the left coast.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      it’s race, any way you slice it,” Wilson added.

      Oh really?

  42. Just Say’n

    Hug a journalist, guys

    https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1056865090450939908

    “I have to say, I feel less safe as a journalist in America these days than I ever did in Russia. A lot less safe.”

    Literally shaking with fear

    1. She is a worthless hack. Lunatic with Microsoft Word.

      1. Just Say’n

        No. She’s “brave”. In the new definition of the word.

        Brave (n.): (1.) taking the popular position on a matter, while insisting that the stand is revolutionary and controversial (2.) without fear (3.) to show valor despite resistance

        Eg: Stacy was brave to declare that President Trump was a Nazi at the Netroots Festival

        1. KibbledKristen

          It’s the hipsterization of politics. Take something tried & true & old, and make like you invented it.

          1. Just Say’n

            I hate hipsters

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Pick one:
      a. Lying
      b. Retarded
      c. Both a and b

    3. KibbledKristen

      She probably feels unsafe because she blamed conservative (politically, I mean) Jews for Pittsburgh.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      GQ and Esquire have a knack for hiring the most histrionic idiots out there.

    5. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I thought I recognized that name, Ioffe is the reporter who got fired from Politico for suggesting that Donald was porking Ivanka.

  43. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. Like I needed more of a reason to dislike Gabby Giffords. Here asshole husband is referred to in the story as “Capt. Mark Kelly”

    I would so vote for any crusty nco who insisted on being called “Gunney” just to fuck with pretentious d-bags like Mark Kelly.

    1. Just Say’n

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2pA8XZRb7c

      The only captain duo that matters

    2. Drake

      Giffords was a pro-2A Rep. Not sure if she held that position just to get elected in AZ, or she really believed in it while her brain was fully-functional. Her husband is a despicable statist prick parading around his handicapped wife.

      1. Just Say’n

        Kristen Gillibrand was also a pro-2nd Amendment representative.

        1. WTF

          She pretended to be when she needed upstate votes for her congressional seat.

          1. Just Say’n

            Just like Dick Durbin use to be pro-life when he represented western Illinois

        2. Drake

          If Gillibrand was lobotomized, would anyone notice the difference?

  44. tarran

    John Taylor Gatto has passed away. 🙁

    Above all, Gatto understood that his students were not mere underlings, but individuals with unique skills and talents to share with the rest of the world. They didn’t want to be talked down to but longed to be treated with respect and dignity. He recognized that their worth was not determined by the neighborhoods where they lived, their parents’ annual salaries, or the scores they received on standardized tests. He concluded that “genius,” is “as common as dirt. We suppress genius because we haven’t yet figured out how to manage a population of educated men and women. The solution, I think, is simple and glorious. Let them manage themselves.”

    After three decades in the classroom, Gatto realized that the public school system was squashing individualism more than it was educating students and preparing them for the real world. To make matters worse, his later research would reveal that this dumbing down was not just by accident, but by design.

    1. KibbledKristen

      Damn.

    2. Pat

      I wasn’t familiar with him, but he sounds like he was an exemplary human. I will definitely check out his bibliography.

  45. Pat

    Pine64 is Working on a Linux Smartphone Running KDE Plasma

    It’s a confirmed news that Pine64 is considering a budget Linux smartphone running KDE Plasma.

    I contacted Pine64 team and TL Lim, founder of Pine64, confirmed the plans for a Linux-based smartphone and tablet. These devices are called PinePhone and PineTab.
    PinePhone: Linux-based budget smartphone

    Lime revealed some information about PinePhone development.

    The first PinePhone developer kit will be given to selected developers for free on November 1. This is a combo kit of PINE A64 baseboard + SOPine module + 7″ Touch Screen Display + Camera + Wifi/BT + Playbox enclosure + Lithium-Ion battery case + LTE cat 4 USB dongle.

    This combo kits will allow developers to jump starts PinePhone development. The PINE A64 platform already has mainline Linux OS build thanks to PINE64 community and support KDE neon.

    The PinePhone all-in-one developer board with 5.45″ 1440×720 panel will be released before FOSDEM and targets to demo at FOSDEM.

    The actual phone design has already started but will not be finalized until Q2, 2019 after getting inputs from developer board and also pending on open software progress.

    It’s nice to see another entrant in this area besides the Librem 5. Especially for those of us who don’t need a 600 dollar flagship phone.

    1. Mr Lizard

      Until the load it up with crap ware

      1. AlexinCT

        Russians or space alien crap ware?

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’m looking foreword to the L5 actually being released. I buying one if they’re worth a damn.

  46. WTF

    OT: Military to Deploy 5,000 Troops to Southern Border
    Deployment numbers are increase from initial estimates of 800 troops, in anticipation of migrant caravan.

    1. Just Say’n

      I’ll take “What Is the Recipe for a Shit Show” for $400, Alex

      1. They wanted to test Trump’s resolve, and he called their bluff.

      2. Mr Lizard

        I know right. A Bomb-qualifying training flight out of Arizona could have sorted this out.

        Normally I would offer up a kinetic orbital strike, but that would be overkill.

      3. Drake

        Active Denial System – hope they brought one along.

        1. WTF

          The media will ignore the 80% military-age males and focus exclusively on crying children.

          1. And the only people who’ll buy their spin are the ones that have been shrieking for two years. They burned their credibility.

  47. Pope Jimbo

    Nothing left to cut Exhibit ????.

    Minnesoda launches site to measure broad band speeds.

    “The Minnesota Office of Broadband Development is charged by law with measuring and monitoring broadband internet access levels throughout the state,” DEED Commissioner Shawntera Hardy said in a statement. “This tool will increase our understanding of the consumer experience to ensure we are making smart investments.”

    So we have an Office of Broadband Development that is part of DEED (Department of Employment and Economic Development). I bet you could fire everyone involved in either office and outside of the fired employees, no one would notice.

    1. leon

      sure people would notice. There would be a surge in the Economy.

    2. Pat

      So, they set up a redirect to speedtest.net?

    3. Raven Nation

      Bizarre. My cable provider has a speed tester on their site and if I’m not sure about its integrity, I can just use speedtest.

    1. AlexinCT

      Erm…

      I am not sure I understand this suggestion.. I am gonna quit watermelon too.

  48. Count Potato

    “the simpsons without the stereotypes”

    https://twitter.com/ChrisRGun/status/1056712155750264832

    That’s a very good point, but why does their cable box have an antenna?

    1. kinnath

      but why does their cable box have an antenna?

      Local channels. They asked for too much money, so the cable company dropped them from the service.

  49. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/status/1056722541908234240

    “i’m old enough to remember when the devil music of @marilynmanson was responsible for mass shootings, instead of Trump’s devil tweets”

    1. Just Say’n

      Best exchange in the comments:

      It was @slipknot for my peer-group

      @sandordaHOUND

      Dude slitknot came out like three years after Marilyn Manson and no one blamed them for anything. Stop trying to be special.

      1. Just Say’n

        No love for Slipknot

        Haha

        1. Nephilium

          What do you have against knitting?

  50. KibbledKristen

    From a Daily Fail article on the Indonesia plane crash: “There have been more than 40 air accidents resulting in deaths in Indonesia since 2001”

    Thassa lotta plane crashes you got there.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    “He said Wardlow made phallic remarks about him playing the flute in band.”

    “Dude, he plays the skin flute.”

  52. Count Potato

    “White supremacists are guzzling cow milk in an effort to mock people of color who are lactose intolerant”

    https://twitter.com/peta/status/1054408360013922305

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I think the title of the linked article is even dumber.

      Why White Supremacists Are Chugging Milk (and Why Geneticists Are Alarmed)

    2. Luther Baldwin

      I bet they wear jeans too. JEANS!

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Only white people wear Wranglers

        1. kinnath

          So what about it, huh?

        2. Luther Baldwin

          “So… wanna go to the Gap?”

          1. Sean

            After this episode of Friends.

    3. KibbledKristen

      PETA. Nuff said.

  53. KibbledKristen

    I’d like to point out that Simon Lebon turned 60 this weekend. SIXTY. What the frak?

    1. Mojeaux

      Nikki Sixx will be this year too.

      Wasn’t 1985, like, just 3 years ago?

      1. That math doesn’t add up. I’ve been working at this job for ten and a half years but by your rekoning, I’m only six. Isn’t there a law against preborn labor?

      2. KibbledKristen

        Srsly – WTF is happening????

        1. AlexinCT

          Our inability to perceive time as anything but a linear event in one direction is kicking our ass?

      3. Pat

        Wasn’t 1985, like, just 3 years ago?

        There are people visiting this website RIGHT NOW who weren’t even born yet.

        1. Raven Nation

          I realized my sophomore students this year have no first-hand memories of 9/11.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Buying alcohol, I start thinking about what I was doing on/around the “Before this date”.

          2. Nephilium

            I’ve linked the Mindset list before. Specifically started to give teachers a frame of reference for their students. It can make you feel old quick..

          3. KibbledKristen

            I remember when Afghanistan was the quagmire we laughed at the Soviets for getting into.

          4. KibbledKristen

            BTW, the song I Don’t Like Mondays came out in 1979, so #4 is in no way unique to the class of 2018.

    2. Democratic Hitler

      Beatles trivia is boring.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      He’s on massive amounts of manroids.

      Still skipped leg day.

  54. tarran

    The Toronto Circus Riot of 1855. An incident where firefighters and circus clowns brawled in brothel and triggered a series of events that led to the firing of the entire police department and a reform of its civil service.

    1. Just Say’n

      Now that’s a circus I’d actually want to attend. I’m sure a lot of people would want to see some clowns get beat up. You’re creepy and nobody likes you, clowns!

      1. KibbledKristen

        In the contest of clown vs. cop, I’m always gonna root for the clowns.

  55. Drake

    Hey – GAB has a Twitter account today.

    Look while you can before the banhammer falls on the evilness of free speech.

    1. The “hate speech is not free speech” crowd is just precious.

      1. AlexinCT

        Especially since the can decide who they feel is doing hate speech and who isn’t based on totally random criteria… That’s the kind of power the left loves, but those of us pointing out that they will be outright totalitarian evil (see history) are the ones that are bad for stating the obvious.

  56. Count Potato

    “Dude has a prosthetic tattoo gun, this is the most Cyberpunk thing I’ve ever seen.”

    https://twitter.com/klara_sjo/status/1056684890454921216

  57. Count Potato

    “The Death of the First Amendment in Cyberspace

    These measures have put pressure on social media companies to establish sophisticated online censorship. In Germany, Facebook operates a “deletion center” staffed by more than 1,200 “content moderators.” In 2017, Facebook removed 288,000 posts a month globally for violating its hate speech standards. And, most recently, independent anti-establishment content “created to stir up political debate” has been purged.

    In a 2017 hearing in the British Parliament, Twitter officially renounced its non-negotiable commitment to free speech. A Twitter VP announced that the platform was ditching its “John Stuart Mill-style philosophy,” because “it’s no longer possible to stand up for all speech in the hopes society will become a better place….And we do have to take steps to limit the visibility of hateful symbols, to ban people from the platform who affiliate with violent groups—that’s the journey we’re on.” And so, in September 2018, Twitter adopted new guidelines prohibiting “dehumanizing speech.” “Be Sweet when you tweet” is the new motto. Google too has acknowledged the fundamental shift towards restricting more content in an internal memo entitled “The Good Censor,” leaked earlier this month.

    In short, Big Tech has pivoted from the stubbornly principled “viewpoint neutrality” of the First Amendment towards the European approach of “balancing” free speech against competing interests. This includes exempting specific categories such as “hate speech” from protection altogether. Big Tech’s Great Purge does not violate the First Amendment. Americans remain free to post controversial content that would violate European hate speech laws online. They just can’t do so on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or YouTube. But since 68 percent of Americans use Facebook, 72 percent use YouTube, and 24 percent use Twitter, often to read and comment on news, the shrinking space for online content and consequent muddying of the distinction between public and private space is likely to limit the practical effect of the First Amendment even so. From being the colonizers of cyber space Americans are now being colonized by the standards adopted in Brussels and Berlin.”

    https://quillette.com/2018/10/22/the-death-of-the-first-amendment-in-cyberspace/

    1. Luther Baldwin

      Americans are now being colonized by the standards adopted in Brussels and Berlin

      And most of them are cheering it on.

      1. See Drake’s Gab link above.

    2. tarran

      Guys, stay cool.

      We will still have freer speech than we did in 1995 even with the current regime. And in the meantime a backlash is coming.

      There are numerous peer-to-peer alternative communications systems being developed as a result of the behavior of the tech giants. Most of those attempts will fail without us hearing about them. Some will become known, but not do a good enough job to displace the tech giants. But over the next two decades a handful will succeed and change the landscape completely.

      In creating obstacles intended to hobble people they dislike, the tech giants have created market opportunities for competitors.

      1. “In creating obstacles intended to hobble people they dislike, the tech giants have created market opportunities for competitors.”

        This is true and if I had the startup capital I would be working my ass off to create hosting services and payment processors that don’t discriminate at all (except in cases of actual illegal shit like kiddie porn). Unfortunately, I don’t have the startup capital.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          Problem with payment processors is that at some point, government gets involved. Either you’re working through intermediary like Visa or some bank, who can fuck you because you broke some vague FYTW clause, or you have to set up a bank-equivalent entity of your own, in which case government will fuck you directly. You can jerk off with Bitcoin all you like, at some point it has to get converted into currency.

      2. Just Say’n

        “We will still have freer speech than we did in 1995”

        How do you measure this?

        I remember in the mid-90’s when people complained that Wal-Mart wouldn’t carry CDs with parental advisory labels. I don’t recall a lot of shouting by ostensibly “free speech advocates” about “muh…property rights therefore you can’t criticize for nonsensical reasons”.

      3. wdalasio

        In creating obstacles intended to hobble people they dislike, the tech giants have created market opportunities for competitors.

        That would be true. In a free market. Now, look what’s being done to Gab and tell me there’s a free market at play here. That’s why the social media giants need to be put in check. Not with some fundamental interference with their basic rights, but simply the recognition that they’ve unduly been granted an unfair exemption to infringe on others’ rights.

        If nothing is done, you’ll see the social media giants having the government shut down the very competitors their content control is creating.

        1. Now, look what’s being done to Gab and tell me there’s a free market at play here.

          There is a free market at play here.

          Just because it doesnt adjust to our sensibilities the next day doesn’t mean it isn’t at work. It could be a few years before this collusion catches up to the tech giants.

          1. Just Say’n

            “Operation Choke point” is free market

          2. AlexinCT

            As long as people that think government should pick winners & losers have or can get power, this remains a problem that won’t be solved by free markets.

      4. Jarflax

        Two thoughts about the tech companies deplatforming right wing and libertarian voices:

        1. They are assholes for it and while my belief in liberty and property prevents me from calling for litigation or laws to prevent it, it certainly doesn’t prevent me from wishing them ill.

        2. The Market will eventually solve the problem. But market solutions, while inevitable unless prevented by force, are NOT quick, and not magical. The market does not give a damn about fairness, political outcomes, or your feelings, all it does it aggregate individual choices into prices. Maybe Facebook and Twitter go belly up, maybe something replaces them, maybe not. The market is not Santa Jesus and does not necessarily produce virtue, it is just all of us buying and selling so what it mostly produces is compromise.

    3. wdalasio

      A Twitter VP announced that the platform was ditching its “John Stuart Mill-style philosophy,” because “it’s no longer possible to stand up for all speech in the hopes society will become a better place….And we do have to take steps to limit the visibility of hateful symbols, to ban people from the platform who affiliate with violent groups—that’s the journey we’re on.”

      The social media giants have every right to take this policy stance. And given their policy stance, there’s only one rational standard to apply to these guys – revoke their CDS Section 230 protections. They aren’t independent third parties providing an open platform., They’re publishers pushing a specific editorial stance. Given that, they should be subject to all the same legal liability risk as their brick and mortar peers.

      1. Just Say’n

        The “journey” they’ve gone down is that they want that Chinese and European market and liberal ideas are too inconvenient for the sophisticates of Europe and the tyrants of China (which we’re not suppose to call tyrants)

    4. Pan Zagloba

      Foolish, foolish.

      GAB was great for SJWs – Twitter for Nazis where they can blame Jews and trade lolicon pictures (and some, I’m sure, are good people). Leave them there and make sure normies don’t get exposed to Bad Think.

      Win the culture war first, THEN shoot the PoWs.

    1. Democratic Hitler

      Wait, the electoral college doesn’t sit well with Barbara Streisand? Maybe it’s time we rethink the foundational structure of this country.

    1. Luther Baldwin

      The Star-Ledger ripped Hugin for […] his background in the pharmaceutical industry

      What a monster.

  58. commodious spittoon

    DoJ poised to enter dick-measuring contest with Pennsylvania over synagogue shooting.

    These are straightforward state murder, assault, and extortion cases that Washington turns into federal crimes on the theory that some interstate connection, no matter how irrelevant or infinitesimal, must have been involved.

    Why do that? Because there is no constitutional federal interest in what the Left actually wants to criminalize: thought. This is politics, not law enforcement

  59. KibbledKristen

    Erdogan’s erasure of Ataturk continues apace.

    https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/1056927948643676160

    1. What’s happening in Turkey is tragic.

      1. R C Dean

        Excellent article in the WSJ on Saturday (paywalled, so no linky) on the historic rivalry between Turkey and the Saudis for leadership of the Sunni Islamic world.

        Short version: for a long time, Turkey (via the Ottomans) was the boss of the Sunnis. When the Ottoman Empire went all wobbly and eventually kaput, Saudis tried to fill the void. Turkey invaded Arabia a couple times, even dragging the Saudi king to Turkey for a public beheading. Ataturk wasn’t interested being a secularist and all, so the Saudis finally got the top spot. Now Erdogan, being and asshole and all, wants it back.

        1. KibbledKristen

          Yeah, this is gonna get interesting globally. Does NATO “side” with one of its earliest member countries that seems to be descending into Islamo-fascism, or an Islamist monarchy with lotsa black gold to sell?

    2. Just Say’n

      That’s messed up. It should be called Constantinople Airport.

      In all seriousness, Ataturk was a great man. If the whole of the Middle East had pursued the path of Ataturk that region would be better off for it.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Eh, it’s a new airport. Not unusual to have a new name for it to differentiate it from the old one.

      (Aside from Erdogan’s other efforts to bury Ataturk’s legacy)

      1. KibbledKristen

        In Turkey, it’s pretty unusual not to name gigantic public works projects after Ataturk. It definitely means something that they didn’t.

  60. Just Say’n

    https://thehill.com/policy/technology/413622-howard-dean-gab-should-be-tried-as-accomplice-to-murder-in-synagogue

    For the billionth time, Twitter is a private company (that just happens to get political figures to smear their competitors).

    This is normal. Nothing to see here. Move along

    1. Just Say’n

      Howard Dean is still a bag of dicks

      1. Chipwooder

        YEEEAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!

      2. Luther Baldwin

        That loser is still around? What a loser.

  61. Chipwooder

    Say what you will about Dick Cheney, but he did have Adam Serwer pegged. This is one of single most idiotic things I’ve ever read – Nazi boy shot a bunch of Jews in a synagogue because of Trump’s statements about the migrant caravan. That’s literally his argument – this guy shot a bunch of Jewish Americans because he was pissed off about Honduran illegal immigration.

    1. Just Say’n

      The tie-in that I’ve seen is that the synagogue involved itself in refugee relocation and so he went after them for that. This really doesn’t hold up too well when you consider that Christian non-profits are by far the largest groups involved in refugee relocation (by leaps and bounds more than any other secular or other religious non-profit).

      So, the guy was just basically a bigot. But, that doesn’t help the political narrative so we’re all suppose to pretend that he was an anti-semite, but what he was really upset about was refugee resettlement. How many anti-semites do you think totally hate Jews, but are just fine with South Americans? It would seem like hatred of both groups usually goes hand-in-hand.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Remember how Omar Mateen was a closeted gay man driven to murder by the homophobic slurs of Christian conservatives? Oh, wait. He just googled night clubs.

      2. Chipwooder

        The guy has a long history of hating Jews. The notion that he was driven to it by Hondurans would be laughable if it weren’t such a tragic subject.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Stupid, stupid, stupid, even by their own low standards. This is less policing the bounds of acceptable opinion and more staging sorties out into the wilderness to harass hikers. How’s it going to play with voters in Texas or Arizona who are treated to risible assertions of Nazism because they’re not sure about Swiss cheese border control? You think they’ll be less or more sympathetic to Serwer et al.?

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I just watched the execrable Max Boot make a similar argument on CNN where I’m eating lunch. Sounds like they’ve got their talking points.

      1. Just Say’n

        “Max Boot is like a hero or something. Him and Bill Kristol are the good conservatives.”

        – NPC thought

    4. Rage makes you stupid, and they are high on rage right now.

      Gee, I wonder if it’s a smart strategy to smear every single Trump supporter as a white supremacist Nazi sympathizer? Just calling them Deplorables worked like magic in 2016, so let’s crank the rhetoric up even more!

      By 2020, they’ll probably be calling Republicans cockroaches that need to be exterminated.

      1. 2020? There are already calls for that.

      2. Just Say’n

        The same people who praise Hamas and embrace Louise Farrakhan are lecturing everybody else on anti-semitism.

        1. Chipwooder

          Precisely.

          Brother Keith, deputy chairman of the DNC, has never, ever repudiated Louis Farrakhan. Jessie “Hymietown” Jackson and the architect of Freddy’s Fashion Mart, Al Sharpton, are warmly received at any Democrat function, and yet those fuckers have the stones to yell about antisemitism?

          1. Just Say’n

            Farrakhan had a blue check mark on Twitter until a couple of months ago and he’s never been banned. Including two weeks ago when he said he wasn’t an anti-semite, but instead “anti-termite”.

            Maybe Twitter should start getting un-personed

  62. Our country is seriously ill right now.

    https://nypost.com/2018/10/29/pittsburgh-mourners-chant-vote-vote-during-memorial-service/

    This is what happens when you make the personal political. It infects and adulterates everything in your life.

    1. Just Say’n

      When politics is your religion, voting is an act of remembrance. Which is a quite vile statement on our corrupt and amoral society

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Aside from the specifics of their chanting, far too much push for voting these days. Local school sends out email after email to register and vote. Same with the idiotic moter voter bills. If you can’t be bothered to pick up and fill out a voter registration card or if you need to be prodded over and over to do so, fuck you, you shouldn’t be voting.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        *motor voter

      2. The two things that have fucked up my state more than anything else were rammed through by Dems right before they lost control of the State Legislature:

        1) Mandatory universal mail-in ballots.
        2) Same day registration.

        If you’re too lazy to go to a fucking polling station, you shouldn’t vote. If you’re too lazy to register 2 weeks before the election, you shouldn’t vote; not to mention that it essentially guarantees voter fraud. By doing that, they have given themselves a structural advantage in all elections in perpetuity.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          ding ding ding winner winner chicken dinner

          1. Gustave Lytton

            And any attempt to roll those back will be portrayed as disenfranchising voters.

        2. Democratic Hitler

          Michigan has a proposal on the ballot right now to allow both of those. I don’t have a huge problem with mail-in ballots – some of us do have jobs; but I’ll be damned if I’ll vote for same-day registration.

          My guess is it will pass anyway.

          1. R C Dean

            I don’t have a huge problem with mail-in ballots

            Well, other than they may be the biggest security weakness in voting, outside of the room where ballots are actually counted. “Mail-in” ballots usually means ballots that are mailed to you.

            Nobody should get a ballot that isn’t delivered to them in person after showing valid ID. People can pick them up in advance and mail them in, but those are what we used to just call “absentee” ballots.

          2. Democratic Hitler

            Fair enough, I was in fact thinking of absentee ballots that you have to pick up and then mail in. As far as I know, Michigan doesn’t have any option where your ballot gets mailed to you.

    3. KibbledKristen

      I’m going to amend my will so that if I die under politicized circumstances, every time a politician utters my name, $100 will be donated to the NRA or the ACLU, depending on the utterer’s political party ($100 to the NRA if a lefty says my name, $100 to the ACLU if a righty says it).

  63. Raven Nation

    Cue the jokes, apparently Cleveland just fired their coach.

    1. Nephilium

      But he was turning it around!

    2. Luther Baldwin

      Maybe the Bills can snap him up.

    1. Pat

      Only because the best methods are restricted. Take 12 grams of pentobarbital and you’re in for an easy ride into the sunset. When my time comes that’s how I’d like to take my leave.

  64. KibbledKristen

    Oh, dear. It’s almost “use or lose” season here in the Fedgov. That means Fedgov employees completely disappear during the holidays, leaving us contractors to run the show. Leave it to bureaucrats to not space out their vacation time, so they have to take off the whole month of December.

    1. If there’s a scramble to use vacation time, that’s a sure sign the employer gives too much annual leave.

      1. KibbledKristen

        Or, they’re just dipshits who can’t plan ahead?

        But yes – Fedgov employees enjoy Euro levels of vacation accruals.

        1. they’re just dipshits who can’t plan ahead?

          Working in a place where we have too much leave, I can tell you, this is not always the case.

          1. KibbledKristen

            I understand if you find yourself with a day or a few days at the end of the year, but these people have, like, WEEKS of use or lose. They’re literally gone the entire month of December.

          2. You can carry over 40 days of vacation time year over year. I’m at about half that, so I’m not worried there.

      2. dorvinion

        I’m currently allowed 26 days (I think I get 5 more starting next year)

        My problem with using all my days is now that I have a kid in school, shoulder seasons are off limits for travel. September and October were always my favorite vacation times as crowds are mostly gone and temperatures are generally more tolerable.

        1. KibbledKristen

          We just started a new contract and our company gives us 18 days plus Fed holidays. It’s the most leave I’ve had in about…well, ever. I’ve never had 18 days.

          1. There are ten state holidays (some are also fed holidays), five personal days and twenty vacation days a year. I just noticed recently that I have three personal days left this year. They expire if not used.

        2. R C Dean

          I’m currently allowed 26 days

          Does that include holidays?

          One of the quirks of working for a true 24/7 business like a hospital is that your paid time off allotment gets burned off on holidays as well as vacation days. So 30 days sounds like a lot, until you realize it includes 10 holidays that you are used to thinking of being on top of your PTO.

          1. dorvinion

            Nope its 26 days + the 6 big holidays, and MLK of all things.
            Oddly we don’t get black friday off, though about 70% of the office seems to take it.

            When I started there in 2009, the initial number of days PTO was 21 for professional types. I thought that was rather astonishing considering how jobs were hard to come by then.

            They classify our time off as personal holidays (3), flex time (8 days), and vacation (15 days).
            The only one that really matters when it comes to taking it is the flex time of which up to $1000 worth can be sold back.

    2. Plinker762

      When I saw “use or lose” and Fedgov I first thought of budgeting and remember the wish lists that we would dump on the budget at the end of the fiscal year in the Air Force.

      1. Also my first thought, but the Fed Fiscal year ends in september or something.

      2. KibbledKristen

        Oh yeah – you can tell end of fiscal year by all the new toys. Our admin people ordered a shitton of Varidesks, but they can’t be installed because our study carrels are not deep enough. Fun times.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    In a 2017 hearing in the British Parliament, Twitter officially renounced its non-negotiable commitment to free speech. A Twitter VP announced that the platform was ditching its “John Stuart Mill-style philosophy,” because “it’s no longer possible to stand up for all speech in the hopes society will become a better place….And we do have to take steps to limit the visibility of hateful symbols, to ban people from the platform who affiliate with violent groups—that’s the journey we’re on.”

    “This mask is uncomfortable and restrictive. Time for it to go.”

  66. Correct me if I’m wrong, but hasn’t he explicitly denounced white supremacy multiple times?

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/413558-jewish-leaders-say-trumps-not-welcome-in-pittsburgh-until-he

    The guy is objectively the most pro-Jewish president ever. His fucking daughter and grandchildren are Jewish. He moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem. He bailed on the Iran deal. These people’s minds have been so twisted by politics that they can’t even tell right from wrong anymore.

      1. How stunned she is by that response is priceless.

    1. Luther Baldwin

      “Yesterday’s massacre is not the first act of terror you incited against a minority group in our country.”

      “How does ‘go fuck yourself’ sound?”

    2. leon

      ” He moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem.”

      To be fair the Republicans in 1990’s did that, he was just the first president to not give himself a 6 month exemption. (Still your point stands, even stronger in light of that)

    3. AlexinCT

      Orangeman can say it a million times, and these people will simply refuse to hear it.

      1. Democratic Hitler

        Orangeman bad.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          And me wanna go home.

    4. R C Dean

      Of course, the “Jewish leaders” are an activist group funded by Soros and run by his son. Totes representative.

  67. The Late P Brooks

    Say what you will about Dick Cheney, but he did have Adam Serwer pegged.

    Serwer is a truly special intellect.

  68. Branding question: Do “we” need the .com on the glibertarians.com graphic at the top? Is it superfluous?