This is the first in a series to discuss my Constitutional Property Rights Minarchist philosophy. I will take a look at each element individually before putting it all together. I figured I would start off with the nature of rights because that takes two of the CPRM parts off the table at once. This is because all rights are derived from property rights, which I aim to show through this thesis.
So, what exactly is a right? Is a property right different than a human right? Is the right to keep and bear arms different than the right to free speech? Where do rights come from anyway? I bet they were just made up by some old dead white guy, so they don’t matter. Most of what I’m about to say is probably old hat to most of the readers, but I decided to lay it all out just to make sure before I get to the big picture.
One note on rights off the bat (I like to reference pop culture) my favorite quote on rights actually comes from the band Powerman 5000 in their song ‘Free‘.
“It’s not something you can hold
It’s not something you own
It’s not something you can buy or steal
You’ve got it when you’re alone”
A right is something you have regardless of where or when are born. To hit on the points above, it is a human right. Just by being human these are the rights you posses (why they’re limited to humans will be addressed later on). Well, if it doesn’t matter where or when you are born, then that means certain things can’t be rights. A person born where there is no water can not have a right to it, otherwise that ruins the whole idea that it is inherent in being human, unless you wish to posit people born in a desert are not human, but that would be awfully racist of you. For shame. I think you need counseling to deal with your racism. But you aren’t important, the idea is. So I digress. What other things can a human be born without that some call rights? Well the big one today is healthcare. But that is an even more resource intensive thing than water, I mean we could all spare some water, but there are only a limited few to provide healthcare. That would mean that to provide healthcare to masses would be to compel certain people to provide it. Another thing, which is written into the South African Constitution, is housing. Well, if you have a right to housing, that is also something someone else must be compelled to provide. I keep coming back to that word, don’t I. Compelled. It sounds so innocent. But what does that really mean? Let’s check Dictionary.com
“com·pel
kəmˈpel/
verb
past tense: compelled; past participle: compelled
1.force or oblige (someone) to do something.
“a sense of duty compelled Harry to answer her questions”
| synonyms: | force, pressure, press, push, urge; More |
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bring about (something) by the use of force or pressure.
“they may compel a witness’s attendance at court by issue of a summons”
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literary
drive forcibly.
“by heav’n’s high will compell’d from shore to shore”
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Oh, gosh that sounds violent. By use of force?
No, we’ll just make a law about it.
How will that law be enforced?
Well by a tax, or a program.
And if people don’t comply?
Well, they’ll get taken to court and fined or put in jail!
And if they don’t show up to court?
They’ll show up.
But if they don’t?
Well, the cops will make them.
How will they do that?
Listen man, people do what cops say.
And if they don’t?
Then the cops make them.
How?
They just do.
Is it the fact the cops ask nicely or the fact that they have guns?
You’re killing my buzz man, leave me alone!
So to go back to the beginning. Yes it is the old ‘private island’ thought experiment, but with a small change. It’s not an Island, but any place on earth where the first humans were the first intelligent beings to move to (that intelligent beings bit will come back on my promise of why they are human rights). Ug shows up with his sharp stick and his loin cloth in lower Mongolia. When he gets there what does he own? Well, of course he owns his own body, he is a slave to no man, and ownership of everything else extends from his self ownership. And that sharp stick, he found it and chewed it for miles to sharpen it. The loin cloth, well he stole that, so that’s a bit more complicated on the ownership front. So he arrives in lower Mongolia and there is nothing there. There is like this one pissed off falcon circling overhead and Ug saw some wild dogs a hundred miles ago. But that’s it. So Ug decides he’s tired of roaming sits his ass down and says ‘shit, fuck this Ug build himself house!’ There aren’t many trees around, but Ug finds enough to build a frame for a rough stone age yurt. He then hunts enough animals and tans enough leather to to finish his new domicile. Ug found some wild grains and harvested the seeds, carefully planting them and tending to his new garden. Then a wild goat shows up, he grabs it and builds a nice pen. The goat provides him with milk to make up for the absence of an accessible source of water. Months pass and Ug has made a nice little home for himself. Then that asshole Ur shows up.
You goat be mine. You house be mine!
No me house mine!
No, me Ur be mine!
No, me Ug be mine!
After a tense stalemate. Ur makes an offer to Ug.
Me know how make fire!
Me know how milk goat!
Me want milk!
Me want fire!
Me give you fire for milk!
Me give you milk for fire!
Me take your house!
Me give you place to build house, if you give me hard rock!
Me give you hard rock, if you build me house!
And that is the right to contract. Ug created things that were not there when he arrived, and owned those as well as himself. Ur owned a rock which Ug wanted, so they traded. I know this is all farcical, but these are the underpinning ideas. You own your own body. You own the fruits of your labor, which you may trade for payment (today we call this going to work). But you know who doesn’t have any rights? Animals. You know why? It’s not because I’m racist against animals, believe me I have lots of animal friends. No, it’s because animals don’t understand rights. That is an important concept. To you this whole diatribe while slanted and farcical, is something you can understand. If I tell you this is mine and that is yours, that is a concept a human can grasp by the age of three. If you try telling that to a 100 year old tortoise it will still just eat your lettuce and shit on your floor. Tortoises are assholes.
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“don’t covet they neighbors wife, they neighbor’s ass, nor they neighbor’s wife’s ass” ?
Now HIT IT
since “a sense of duty compelled Harry to answer her questions”
Apropos theme music
https://youtu.be/7doBMyEH_Ug
I would argue THIS is more apropos, given I wrote a play based on it, and this is my article.
You want me to philosophize at this hour of the night?
Just add alcohol.
I’m effin Aristotle when I’m drunk.
Greek would describe a lot of firemen I know.
Hey, you spend a third of your life together in the same building…
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
And Hobbes was fond of his dram
No, it’s because animals don’t understand rights.
If you try telling that to a 100 year old tortoise it will still just eat your lettuce and shit on your floor. Tortoises are assholes
So most people who make laws and regulations in this country are 100 year old tortoise’s? Torti? Tortugas?
At least the Senate Majority Leader…
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3186689.1495487700!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/95817913.jpg
And here I thought he was just Foghorn Leghorn. My eyes have been opened.
Nah. Fossils.
The goat provides him with milk to make up for the absence of an accessible source of water
Don’t goats need water?, granted it’s little I know of the ways of animal husbandry.
“animal husbandry”
What do you think this is, Colombia?
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qbzqvv/colombia-donkey-fucking
You keep what you kill.
Still a good trilogy. Well, good bookends to a trilogy.
First, we must determine what are wrongs. For example: was it wrong of me to sleep with the cleaning woman at work after hours? Is that sort of thing frowned upon? Because, I’m telling you, if I’d known…
I lost my train of thought. And now, the airing of grievances.
An extra heaping helping of Thot Thursday.
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Lucky 13 has some GAMS.
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#4 is why you need a boat
#6 is why you need a pool float and,
#13 is why you need an outdoor kitchen
We’re renting the boat and #4 right? We’re all down with the 3F rule? At least with the kind of girls in Q’s pictures?
Pretty much all of them except for the ones with big butts.
I dunno. What kills is for me (besides the lack of a Y chromosome) is the ridiculous posing and selfie face.
These ladies knew how to smolder.
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Agreed.
And:
Would.
Would.
Wood.
Young Sophia Loren is Thicc in exactly the way it should be done.
I’ve always been a big Veronica Lake fan. In fact, my wife’s hair was a lot like hers when we first met, especially the way it covers one eye, and she bore more than a passing resemblance to a young VL back then — and it may have been the final straw that convinced me I’d found my dream girl.
During WWII, the gov’t asked Veronica Lake to cut her hair because so many women in the factories were imitating her style that it became a safety hazard. She complied, and it pretty much ended her career.
In “LA Confidential”, I couldn’t get behind Kim Basinger as a ringer for V Lake. If they’d done hair and makeup right in that flick, she could have passed for Rita Hayworth though. (Except that Rita could act and Kim is an idiot).
On days when I feel particularly cynical, I think there are no rights — there is only violence and the threat of violence.
Then, the non-aggression principle is just the choice to not threaten violence to get what you want.
Your cynical self is right, the world has been and always will be ruled by force. The best case scenario is that enough people are willing to use force to keep themselves and others from using force barbarically.
Rights don’t cease to exist because they’ve been infringed anymore than they only exist because a government recognizes them. Just because someone can use force to restrict someone’s right doesn’t mean it isn’t still there. Your simplistic take leaves me wondering how exactly you define rights to begin with.
Rights don’t protect you from violence or make violence unnecessary; rights tell you when it is moral to use violence.
morality tells you when it is moral to use violence
Morality starts from rights. Whether you call it the golden rule or the NAP it all boils down to 2 things self ownership and recognition of others self ownership. Rights are the lines that when crossed allow force to be used in response.
To be free you must persuade others to let you be free. The persuasion may be done through debate or self defense. Even if we form our own society on the ocean by seasteading, we have convince the rest of the world to let us be free.
No, it’s because animals don’t understand rights. That is an important concept. To you this whole diatribe while slanted and farcical, is something you can understand. If I tell you this is mine and that is yours, that is a concept a human can grasp by the age of three. If you try telling that to a 100 year old tortoise it will still just eat your lettuce and shit on your floor. Tortoises are assholes.
By this argument: 50% of Team R and 98% of Team D have no rights.
So we just feed them lettuce, and plan on cleaning the floor ?
and they freaking live forever.
*Vivid young westernsloper memory from visiting the San Diego Zoo.
The 100 year old shitting torti ate lettuce and where kept behind a knee high wall in a lawn area covered in rather large tortoise shit. Perhaps we need to build a wall around DC large enough to contain the DC torti.
Did Joan Embery hit on you?
If you couldn’t tell, my portfolio is heavy in the lettuce category, money to be made.
You went in large on Big Lettuce ?
Not the organic, I don’t want to give anyone the deathshits.
-1 chipotle
If I tried telling a bear that cave is mine while he’s living in it I suspect he would disagree. Do I have a right to it? He may not understand his right to it, but it’s there. Maybe, at a very fundamental level, he does understand it, and that’s why he responds with “come and take it you little bitch.”
Until I being a bigger gun. Then it’s mine, since I probably couldn’t reason with him without violence. So maybe therein lies the difference? I suppose a bear could also choose to just say fuck it when met with a few warning shots.
The hat Kanye wore today wasn’t his signed one, you think Trump let him wear MAGA Prime?
Sure sounds like it.
THAT WAS ALL SO PROBLEMATIC
I NEED VOX TO TELL ME HOW TO FEEL ABOUT THIS
I was out today so I’m watching it all now. The Hat and The Hair Live. priceless.
#metoo
OMG this is great.
Just finished watching, great stuff. But c’mon, IT’S 2018! why is all the camera clicking so loud!? Could have gotten some great show audio!
Hah, just watching a Hot Ones with Tenacious D, and I didn’t know Kanye was a D fan until they mentioned it.
I heard he’s a gay fish.
Did Jim Brown ever get a chance to say anything? I doubt any of the MSN idiots would have called him an illiterate token “negro”, as Don Lemon described Kanye.
In the meeting Jim Brown didn’t say much, he’s like 83, but he did do a package for Fox News, again this is like an 83 year old man, old people be CRAZY. I don’t like treating people as political footballs.
When Brown spoke, it was mostly affirming what Kanye said, so it must be dementia.
But, on a football note, Jim Brown has so far only been surpassed in talent by Gayle Sayers. Most of the other ‘top’ running backs had rule changes that created their greatness, but Brown and Sayers were true talents.
Barry Sanders would like to have a word with you.
It would explain his race treachery. If he were being influenced by the diabolical Hat.
This project is cursed. We got through Dev and QA with nary a hiccup, now for prod it’s been failure after delay after failure.
If that’s all it takes, every project I’ve worked on is cursed.
Normally, we see errors in the lower environment.
They went with only minor bumps.
Tonight, a process that took two hours on the same server previously (this was a redo attempt after a rollback) was still going at the four hour mark, and would have pushed the whole thing into the wee hours of the morning.
My best guess is that the pipline for the NFS mount was more heavily used on thursday evenings than saturday mornings, and so there was an additional delay from that. But I’m only speculating.
I’m taking it more presonally because I’ve been lead on it and it’s a fairly sizable item.
I’ve had my share of all-nighters. Courage.
*not helping myself here to get off my ass and find a job*
This is not new, but, we’re not to run consultants into overtime, so we had to end it and roll back today.
At least the rollback went cleanly and the application is back up.
I’ve run into an interesting mental deadlock. I’ve been the technicaly guy on this process before in other environments, so I know exactly what’s involved. The steps we got through were 99% waiting.
Since the actual manager is on vacation, I’ve been doing the manager role of coordinating and contacting various people for associated tasks.
If you look at the actual tasks performed, I did as much or more than the technical guy. But I keep feeling like I didn’t contribute because the only technical tasks I did were at the very end to verify everything was sane after we rolled back.
I spent 2 am to 4 am Wednesday night working due to a prod table not having stats that the same table in QA had.
Even the most basic select statement wouldn’t complete without them.
Ha, suck it, Sharks.
Hawks were up 2-0 over the Wild in the first period, then the hubs and I sat outside with cocktails for the second, and came back to find it 2-2!! Dang it, Hawks, get your sh!t together!
Well, that was obviously not worth it.
What??
Stop that shit!
And HAH!
Yeah, you guys got us! 🙂
Good game.
(For those of you wondering about my split Hayeksplosives/RoadSplosives personalities, it’s purely device dependent. My Hayek password is so top secret, I can’t even remember it, so I use RoadSplosives on any device but my main PC.)
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Every person’s mind, body and conscience arer their own property exclusively. If possession shows ownership you cannot possess something more completely that actually being that thing. No other person, owning their own mind, body and conscience can make a compelling case that they hold property rights on others aside from brute force – that is to violate those property rights. In this respect all are born equal. What logically flows from here are the right to use your property as you decide, own fruit of y our labor, defend your property, and a complete taboo on putting your hands on others property without permission.
Negative rights really are pretty simple.
Then why do so many people reject them, or worse, don’t understand them?
Is it because they simply believe things cannot be so simple?
I’ve always felt that if one accepts the axiom of self-ownership everything else can follow, but most people don’t accept that axiom.
Not accepting that axiom is the problem. The problem for them is that they cant make an actual case for rejecting it.
Their only option is to say that people dont own themselves. So, some people are born with something special that gives them property rights over others? Or they try to argue that some collective has property rights on its members. Guess what? Antebellum plantations were collectives. Anyway they go about it they end in the same place – we have a word for a system that makes a person the property of another: Slavery.
In my experience they usually say that no one rightfully owns anyone (including their own-selves(heh)).
The transition from there to governments is what always confuses me admittedly, just sounds like magic to me when it is described, or naked utilitarianism, depending on the explanation.
Is this my premise as to why intellectual property rights don’t exist (well, I am okay with trademarks).
If I think the thought, I own it. Even if you thought it first and filled out paperwork.
How do you prove you thought the thought independantly and are not copying the other person?
“Rights” are arbitrary, and only agreed on by a collective via some social construct. Citizens in the US have a “right” to keep and bear arms, as well as (we hope), certain immunities for free speech, due process, etc.
Other countries or cultures dont necessarily respect those.
Natural rights aren’t really all that arbitrary. You’re right that other cultures don’t respect them. You’re wrong that this somehow makes them arbitrary because if you go to those countries, you’ll find the exercise of those rights on a daily basis.
The right to bear arms enshrined in the Constitution is a manifestation of the right to self-defense. The gun is just a cultural tool. And if you don’t believe that self-defense is a right universally recognized, go to any country of your choosing and decide to strike someone walking down the street.
Private property is the most interesting example. Time and again groups try to restrict this, and no matter the cultural context we see pretty similar results.
Denying the existence of negative rights is akin to cultural relatavists who deny the superiority of Western science. We know there’s objective truth because of the results produced and what happens when we stray from those principles. These things aren’t arbitrary. The results of governments restricting them are on display irregardless of time and place. Their existence does not depend on a particular culture or society or group even believing in them.
But rights, like criminal sentencing guidelines, are only effective when everyone accepts them.
effective and existing are two separate things. Just ask me about my game with the women if you need an example…
OK…if it’s relevant.
“Tell me about your game with women”
Based on what? Your mother and father made you, don’t they own you then? You are a product of their labor.
Human babies don’t understand rights, do they have them? If so, why doesn’t that apply to animals?
You own it because you possess it wholly and completely.
Nope, you’re just walking around in your parent’s property, just like if you took their car for a joyride.
But then they are just walking around in their parent’s property, and so on.So by that logic, we are all walking around in amoeba #1’s bodies…
Well, amoeba #1 is dead, and dead things probably don’t have rights of ownership, as they no longer exist.
If dead things don’t have right of ownership, especially of their body, why do people have a problem with, as seen across the world through law, desecration of a corpse?
It could just be a taboo codified into law, and many societies in history didn’t exactly extend this right to everyone.
Could be, but when it is a ‘taboo’ shared by almost every culture, you have to question why it is taboo? What does that mean about us as humans? Can it be explained away? These are questions that need to and should be asked, but to deny the reality of the human condition on such a large scale does no one any good.
Personally I think it is because people typically form strong family bonds, and imbue bodies of loved ones with strong emotional attachment, such that disrespecting a person’s body, even after death, causes strong emotions in family members, resulting in tumult in society and would be a maladaption not to prohibit it.
Similar to taboos against cannibalism or necrophilia, which have good reasons to exist in that they prevent disease, besides the above.
But then you need to explain why people who aren’t related to the person, or ever knew them find it abysmal as well.
Probably not as abysmal as the family thinks it is.
I feel like we’ve gone off track on this one. I do more or less agree with your premise of self ownership, but you should think more about why animals don’t have rights, I don’t think the requirement to be capable (at some point? how can you be sure then, one way or another of the future) of understanding rights is particularly compelling, at least not without significantly more logical steps. Also babies.
It is already way late for me, so I’ll leave you to enjoy your drinks. Goodnight, and thanks for the article.
I guess the more common counter argument here is that we all belong (in a literal sense) to humanity, based on everyone being owned by some common ancestor.
That argument was lost the moment Hitler was died, nobody seems to want to own him. Except Trump supporters.
Why did the editors post this during my drinking time? Why!? It’s exactly as stated, as a human a child has the ability to comprehend such things, even if it is in the future. No amount of time or maturation will help any other species as a whole be able to grasp such a concept.
This seems like special pleading to me. Either someone(thing) can understand rights and thus should receive them or they don’t. Why does some theoretical future state grant rights?
You’d agree (I think) that rights are individual, so why does membership in a group (humanity) grant rights?
Because existence isn’t finite. The same argument could be made about sleeping people.
That isn’t clearly true. Based on life being kind of continuous through sleeping to waking, it is likely that sleeping people still understand rights, they may even be dreaming about rights. I think I’ll name this phenomenon Schrödinger’s rights – you can’t know if the person understands rights without waking them up, at which point you collapse the uncertainty.
I don’t see what understanding has to do with anything. Someone who has no notion of rights still has them.
I’m no philosopher. I just generally sum this up as negative rights are things that align with human nature. I know full well there are arguments ad nauseum that could be presented to try and undermine that claim. I could probably respond to most of them individually even if the simple claim presented here isn’t obviously all encompassing. But freedom of expression is something innate in human beings regardless of whether an individual articulates it in that way or even recognizes it. Just ask someone to shut-up as an individual and see what results you tend to get. People may go along with certain restrictions, but those restrictions are things designed to limit human nature (yes, there are impulses that are destructive and which aren’t recognized as rights).
The one I love is X civilization way back in history didn’t believe in property rights man! But, I bet if I had a time machine and could travel to anywhen and I stole someone’s shit I’d face some consequences.
You know else didn’t own their own bodies?
https://m.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/2168212/babies-sale-instagram-four-people-arrested-indonesia-after
At least someone agrees with me.
$985? Can I bargain down to $200? I mean diapers cost a lot.
I’m just glad that CPRM isn’t “racist against animals”.
Thanks for this article. I enjoyed it
Good to see you around a bit more.
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#fakenerd
The ones doing the selfie thing can do the selfie service thing with their selfie stick. The last two? Wood.
I;m saddened no one mentioned my fine artwork. Sure I photoshopped those Flintstone’s pics years ago for another place, but they aren’t just stock pics, I made those. And nobody cares. Makes me feel like Dodgson.
I for one appreciated the Flintstones pics.
Thank you.
And the one young woman with Fred is pretty hot. Is that Ann Margrock?
Tangentially relevant. My daughter (9 y/o) is fascinated by princesses. If she mishaves, I ask her, “Do you think a princess would do that.” Finally, last week I asked her where all those pretty dresses come from that the princesses are wearing. “They make them for her.” You can guess where this conversation went. Eventually, she got to the conclusion after many questions: “It’s not right if they steal the money for the dresses.” Since she was 7, she’d point at posters of politicians of any party and say, “He’s a thief, too. Right, Papa?” Love that kid. My wife just eye rolls at us.
I’ve avoided pushing politics on any of my nieces or nephews. Except when my niece came home from school crying that the world was going to end because of global warming, then I kind of got political in explaining what was going on. Another niece is now into the they/them/their thing, I tried to politely explain to her that descriptors don’t matter, what matters is who you are. I think she gets it, but she’s still into that shit. She he is a high functioning aspie (for real) and these people are fucking with her head. Makes me almost want to go Warty Hugemen on these predators.
No offense, but “uncle” and “dad” are different. Your situation is most likely different and so no judgment on you. My sister raised 3 fucked up kids that are nasty little SJWs. Best I can do is to hope they recognize the concept of “bad example is still an example” and apply it to their mom. Maybe I should’ve pushed back on the way she was raising her kids, but they’re adults now. I cut them out off my life because they’re repeatedly rude, self righteous and closed minded. They’ won’t meet my daughter (their cousin) until she’s 18. Even then, it’ll be my kid’s choice.
I’ve been a third parent to all my nieces and nephews, been the one to pottytrain, the one to teach, the one to punish. People say all the time ‘You don’t know what it’s like to be a parent’ because I have no kids of my own, but I’ve been raising kids since I was 13. It’s the parents that always fuck them up.
You’re going above and beyond the call of duty and I respect that. A functional nuclear family, however, is statistically the best environment for a kid. That it’s being degraded by the progressives is what bugs me.
Oh, I know. That’s been my dating dilemma for the last few years. I’ll say it because I think I already said it here in an article. I’m celibate until marriage. You know how hard it is to find a 35 year old woman in these parts that isn’t a divorce with four kids? And the older I get the gap between me and any woman who not only doesn’t hold that same value but doesn’t even have kids gets farther and father away.
It was frog in boiling water for me. I didn’t notice how fucked up the American family had become until I GTFO. The average family here (very low divorce rate) would be exemplary in the states. Gotta say that lately my anger at the destruction of the US family is giving way to resigned sadness.
I’m not religious, but I have always planned to be celibate until marriage. I’m 23 and trying to socialize more on campus so I can have more dating opportunities.
My mom wasn’t a divorcee with four kids until she was 36. There’s still hope.
Of course, my stepfather had two kids of his own when they met but they still had ~25 great years together once we all aged out of the house.
I don’t get the celibacy thing before marriage, but if that’s what you guys want/need to be happy, knock yourself out. Not saying being a slut is good, either.
The aspie niece I was speaking of doesn’t know her dad, I’m not even sure if she knows of him. I never pried that fat into what her mom told her. My sister and her daughter lived with my parents when I had to move back and take care of my ailing father, one of the reasons why I give an automatic ‘fuck you’ to people who say I don’t know about raising kids. But, my parents, who were big social conservatives, let her dad live in our house, didn’t do shit after he knocked up my sister and ran away, and no one in the family even acknowledged my sister was pregnant, I thought it was all rumor and innuendo until after I moved away for college and they told me my sister had a kid.
Vaucus, I did it for religious as well as logical reasons. But yeah, it gets harder to do the older you get.
Ditto that. You have gone above and beyond the call CPRM. I applaud you for what you’ve done for your niece(s) and nephew(s).
I’m not calling my niece a she he, that was a typo. To correct the record for nomination in 80 years.
I’ve come across emails where students list their gender pronouns in their email signature.
Even having an email signature is really 2004 of them.
I guess it’s useful for virtue signaling these days. My universy has half a dozen clubs about believing victims. One club is called iBELIEVE.
Fucking Madison. You’re one of the one’s in Madison, right? Even if not, fucking Madison.
Make sure yours says, “your majesty.”
The point about her aspergers being relevant is that intellectually she is around the ability of a 20 year old or so, but emotionally she is around the level of a 12 year old. She’s 16 in nominal years.
BTW, thanks for the piece, CPRM. I’m a negative rights guy myself. Hard not to fall into the “reactionary” camp these days.
Well, the negative rights bit comes more into play on the C constitutional.
Just scanning, I’ll read the meat when I sit down, but I’m not seeing Rachel Stevens or S Club in the article. I suspect CPRM has been skinsuited by tulpa.
Well, Rachel and the S Club are above the lowly debate we call ‘intellectual’ here, they are truly Gods amongst men.
If you have 3 hours of ear time free, Hardcore’s Japan podcast is pretty good.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oErYYBNCHh4
Ok, no one here so I read over the thread and got bored when I finished. I decided I might pop over to TOS and boy, was that a mistake.
First thing I see is Gillespie doing a shitweasel defense for more gun control and Bailey’s squishy support for the AGW crowd.
How the mighty have fallen.
HA! I was going to leave a snarky quote but when I signed in, I found my handle is still a very rude comment about their treatment of Sloopy’s mom. I don’t care enough about TOS to bother to go change it and I realized that I don’t even care enough about TOS to troll them. Thank you to each and every one of you involved in this better venture. The split was truly a blessing; the content here is absolutely amazing.
I don’t know about that… they accept articles from me here.
And of course, your latest kitbash piece posted while I was knee-deep in replacing a corrupted SSD on my main box and was only able to read it on my phone. Bloody beautiful sir. Also, we both stumbled upon the same basic livery. I have a group of Leman Russ, Rhinos, and Dreads in the glorious black/red scheme.
Thank you.
That’s the color scheme for the lesser half of the chapter – the ‘Primaris’ marines. The real marines wear gray and red. The turret gunner is in techmarine red because that’s what vehicle operators are in. Like Maximus here (I’ve since found the missing storm bolter that made me have to get creative in arming that rhino, but I prefer the version with more character.)
LOVE IT! My li’l dudes’ chapter (The Emperor’s Hammer) is based on Mars, works hand-in-hand with an Adeptus Mechanicus/Imperial Guard training regiment (The Emperor’s Anvil)and operates as the training cadre for Techmarines across all chapters (in reality, I just wanted to be able to paint all sorts of different livery).
GILLESPIE!
I came here specifically to rant about Gillespie’s shitty article. Jamie Lee Curtis is just pulling the usual shit gun grabbers always pull: “I support the second amendment, I just think that it should be subject to reasonable regulation, government licensing, fees, taxes, aptitude tests, arbitrary limitations, silly bans, and the permission of local authorities.” If you switch “free speech” with “private ownership of firearms” in those statements, you see just how ridiculous they are. It is hypocritical to advocate the private ownership of firearms and the right to self-defense in the movies that make you rich, to use that money to hire armed security and live in places where the threat of victimization is extremely low, and then to argue against that right in real life.
And Nick Gillespie remains an idiot. God that place is a shithole. The only thing I don’t regret from my time as a reader and visitor there is finding this place and you magnificent bastards.
Yes, it’s the usual “I support the second amendment, but…..we need common sense gun control. Pay no attention to the onerous taxes and regulations that prevent you from actually owning the means to defend yourself. Oh, and that business of taxing and regulating ammunition away, dont worry about that.”
What Curtis is saying is that only people like her should have access. What Gillespie is saying is Curtis isnt so bad, C’mon now that position is acceptable.
A shitweasel and a snake in the grass.
This is everyone’s fault for complaining about Brett’s links last night.
Maybe the rapture happened and we’re the only ones left.
I was about to write the same thing.
So what thread should we look first?
Loot*
Oh, we plundered them long ago.
Probably one of Swiss’. I picture a man, everything in it’s place, sitting in the office (think the Clock King from Batman TAS), realizing that the links are… LATE. The itching behind his eyes, the twitching happening…
I’m at work and all my co-workers are here, so no.
It’s the apocalypse! GAAAHHHHH!!!11!!!!
Again? This apocalypse business gets tiresome after a while.
But this time people will die!!!!!1!! This is more serious than Paris accords, or Net Nuetrality, or Kavenaugh.
Everyone to the boats! Ancaps and Minarchists first!
/while they fight among themselves, the rest of us can get to safety.
Like an ancap would accept any charity.
If it were private charity…
Why do we let Women and Children go first?
So we can have some fucking peace and quiet to figure out what we’re going to do
Hmmm. No links yet. While we’re waiting can someone explain to me how this isn’t racist?
They also called him a “token negro”.
Black people can’t be racist. Seriously though this is just sick partisanship with a racist angle.
He’s white on the inside so not racist.
Kanye has left the Democrat plantation so he is no longer an authentic black so not racist.
See?
So when do we start rioting?
A riot is an ugly thing.
Riot Juice!
How’s the new season been? I haven’t caught any of them yet.
I haven’t either. I have them on the DVR. I caught a bit of the Boggs redux and it wasn’t great other than Frank waiting in a plane bathroom to bang random broads.
How about a mob?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv920dM57IQ
It’s only a mob if they’re Republicans.
Wait? I wasn’t supposed to start yet?
Well, if you didn’t wait for the group, I think it’s just called a rampage.
I love a good rampage
Who doesn’t?
Well, since we all abide by the NAP our riots are indistinguishable from a bunch of people standing around mumbling. So yeah, it has already started.
I’d still keep my eye on Ur.
Not Babylon?
/narrows gaze.
Ur lost to Um and Er.
Sounds like Obamaylon.
“Do you think putting white and male students on the floor in chains as a form of “experiential reparations” is a good educational opportunity?”
I usually have to pay extra for that.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/10/12/feminist-journal-accepts-portion-mein-kampf-publication/
Feminist journal accepts portion of Mein Kampf for publication
But the Nazis were totally not socialists, nosiree!
I thought 53% of Americans believed Ford? How can this happen?
Thanks to themselves, Democrats see their chances of retaking the Senate go poof!
Republican Martha McSally, who consistently trailed in the polls, now leads Kyrsten Sinema by six points in the Arizona Senate race. Republican incumbent Dean Heller, also behind in past polls, now runs slightly ahead of Jacky Rosen in Nevada. Marsha Blackburn, who trailed in most but not all recent polls, now holds a commanding eight-point lead over Democrat Phil Bredesen in Tennessee. Once competitive races in Texas and North Dakota now look out of reach for Democrats.
It’s because the states are gerrymandered.
Yeah, that’s the excuse the Dems are ramping up to explain their potential failure in the midterms.
I see this morning that Bill and Hillary are going on a speaking tour. Hillary isnt just shooting a hole in the blue boat, she is going to set it on fire too.
Stock up on popcorn. I can only imagine the doozies she is about to shit out.
Although Bill is an astute politician, so his presence might ameliorate Hillary’s propensity for stupid comments.
I’ve got some links to share, but I want to n save them for the links thread… It’s quite the conundrum.
I gotta get to bed soon. My whisky is almost gone.
“MOZZY MENACE Hurricane Michael spawns ‘monster’ mosquitoes FIVE TIMES the normal size and their bite is like being stabbed with a needle
The eggs of the Psorophora ciliata – known as gallnippers – can lie dormant for years until the right kind of floodwaters come along, then they hatch in huge swarms.
And experts warn the pain of a bite from one of these mega-mozzies – which can grow to more than one inch long – can feel like you are being stabbed with a needle.
Gallnippers can strike day and night and due to their large size they can bite through clothing and are immune to regular insect repellent.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7467248/hurricane-michael-monster-mosquitoes/
Cameltoe underwear…
That’s right, the undies are padded with silicone at the front to create the illusion of a camel toe – and are being flogged on sites like Amazon and eBay.
Higher intelligence is a real strange thing sometimes.
“The answer may be because it isn’t women buying, but trans ladies trying to hide a tell-tale bulge.
Which actually makes a lot more sense.”
It doesn’t.
If you report someone else’s opinion it doesn’t have to be in the editorial pages:
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/1582044002
“When we are not in the Constitution for any protections except for the right to vote, I think that it allows for a perspective of ‘lesser than,’ ”
You’re being obtuse. The SC and all leagal has said that the Constitution aplies to both Men and women. Especially the FYTW clause.
She just needs to shut up.
The bill of rights talks about the rights of “the people”, not men. But please, let’s ratify the ERA so women will have to register for the draft, so that women can not get special treatment under the law in family court, etc. etc. What a maroon.
And men would have an equal say about the Abortion of their child.
And an equal right to opt out of the obligations of being a parent if the woman wants to keep the kid over the man’s objections.
“Alyssa Milano: An Equal Rights Amendment would have helped Christine Blasey Ford”
Alyssa Milano, Constitutional Scholar
Also, let’s not forget many feminists were against the ERA.
Because the last thing they want is equality, they want special privileges and advantages over men.
She clearly didn’t take heed to this advice. Why would a document enumerating the powers of the federal government mention women?
How do I get any work done without my morning links?
Now I have to get my work done because I don’t have the morning links.
British soldiers being investigated for taking selfies with Tommy Robinson:
https://pjmedia.com/trending/tommy-robinson-untouchable/
Maybe there was classified info in the background.
So, Title IX for the whole country. That’s what they wanted all along. That is why that despicable Obama did what he did to Title IX.
I suspect that isnt going to fly.
That was supposed to be a reply to leon above on the ERA, Milano idiocy.
the undies are padded with silicone at the front to create the illusion of a camel toe – and are being flogged on sites like Amazon and eBay.
Gently, I hope.
What about my right to AM Lynx?
Huh?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/11/opinion/republicans-lies-medicare-pre-existing-conditions.html
Krugman: Goodbye political spin, hello blatant lies.
It’s good for the NYT to be honest about it’s reporting… Oh that’s not what they meant?
“When we are not in the Constitution for any protections except for the right to vote, I think that it allows for a perspective of ‘lesser than,’ ” Milano said. “It will just put women on an equal footing in the legal system, particularly in areas where women have historically been treated like second-class citizens, especially in cases of domestic violence and sexual assault.”
Something something speak up and prove it. STFU, Alyssa.
“Shitty Media Man Sues Creator of Shitty Media Men List
On Wednesday, Stephen Elliott filed a lawsuit against Moira Donegan, the creator of the Shitty Media Men list, in which he asks for $1,500,000 in damages, alleging that his inclusion on the list and “[t]he wholly unsubstantiated allegations published in the List, particularly with regard to allegations about Plaintiff, contained numerous false statements alleging criminal sexual conduct on the part of Plaintiff.”
Moreover, he wishes to further out the people who contributed to the spreadsheet. As Elliott writes in his complaint, “Plaintiff will know, through initial discovery, the names, email addresses, pseudonyms and/or “Internet handles” used by Jane Doe Defendants to create the List, enter information into the List, circulate the List, and otherwise publish information in the List or publicize the List.”
He then goes on to list the entry in which he was named: “On or about October 11, 2017, Defendants published Plaintiff’s full name in the List, along with the names of several other men connected to the media industry; Plaintiff’s name was entry #13, along with an AFFILIATION of “Freelance writer/novelist.” Defendants further published the defamatory allegations of, “Rape accusations, sexual harassment” [sic] under the ALLEGED MISCONDUCT column heading.””
https://jezebel.com/shitty-media-man-sues-creator-of-shitty-media-men-list-1829694376
TW: Jezebel
“How An Anonymous Accusation Derailed My Life”
In early October, 2017, following the emergence of the Harvey Weinstein allegations, a writer and activist living in Brooklyn named Moira Donegan created a Google Doc entitled “Shitty Media Men.” She sent it to female friends working in media and encouraged them to add to it and forward it on. The idea was to spread the word about predatory men in the business so that women would be forewarned. Anyone with access to the link could edit and add to the list. At the top of the spreadsheet were the following instructions: “Log out of gmail in order to edit anonymously, never name an accuser, never share the document with any men.” In the first column was this disclaimer: “This document is only a collection of misconduct allegations and rumors. Take everything with a grain of salt.” Nobody did.
The list had only been live for 12 hours when word reached Donegan that Buzzfeed were preparing to publish a story about it. She immediately closed it down. By that time, there were already 74 entries. The Buzzfeed article ran the following day. Other media outlets soon followed up on the story and, shortly thereafter, the list was weaponized by right-wing blogger and conspiracy theorist Mike Cernovich. My entry reads: “Rape accusations, sexual harassment, coercion, unsolicited invitations to his apartment, a dude who snuck into Binders???”
I was shocked to find myself accused of rape. I don’t like intercourse, I don’t like penetrating people with objects, and I don’t like receiving oral sex. My entire sexuality is wrapped up in BDSM. Cross-dressing, bondage, masochism. I’m always the bottom. I’ve been in long romantic relationships with women without ever seeing them naked. Almost every time I’ve had intercourse during the past 10 years, it has been in the context of dominance/submission, often without my consent, and usually while I’m tied up or in a straitjacket and hood. I’ve never had sex with anyone who works in media.”
https://quillette.com/2018/09/25/how-an-anonymous-accusation-derailed-my-life/
If women can’t anonymously make accusations of rape and not report to cops but some internet list used to harass their targets, and not be sued, we must live in a rape culture.
Why am I not surprised that Jezebel has no concept of defamation in their tiny SSRI-soaked brains.
I’m pretty sure they are off their meds.
They never learn, the male feminist allies I mean. The mob is starting to foam at the mouth and guess who is getting eaten first.
I don’t like intercourse, I don’t like penetrating people with objects, and I don’t like receiving oral sex. My entire sexuality is wrapped up in BDSM. Cross-dressing, bondage, masochism. I’m always the bottom. I’ve been in long romantic relationships with women without ever seeing them naked. Almost every time I’ve had intercourse during the past 10 years, it has been in the context of dominance/submission, often without my consent, and usually while I’m tied up or in a straitjacket and hood. I’ve never had sex with anyone who works in media.”
If that’s what makes you happy…
STEVE SMITH CANT EVEN
I found an excuse for the missing links:
“Global Internet Outage Over Next 48 Hours Could Affect Some Users, According To ICANN”
https://fossbytes.com/icann-global-internet-outage-over-next-48-hours/
So does that mean none of us are actually here making comments?!?!?!…
*checks hot rock, checks food bowl for shrooms*