Thursday Morning Links

In sports, I guess the WNBA season ended? ESPN put it front and center so… congrats to the Seattle(?) Storm. In beisbol, A’s pound the Orioles for 6 straight victories, Mets, Nats, Sawx East get their 100th win, Brewers, Twins, Rockies, Doyers, Rays, Pirates, Braves, Padres, Sawx West, and Los Anaheim all won, as did the World Champion Houston Astros. Goddamn A’s, Houston is 10-1 in September and can’t shake the fucking A’s. But the schedule favors the ‘Stros, whose last 10 games are series with the Angels, Blue Jays, and close with 4 against Baltimore. Speaking of Bal’mer, they take on the Cincinatti Bengals tonight. Gooo, Flaccos!

Born today, some dude named Milton Hershey and some doc named Walter Reed. Bill Monroe, father of bluegrass; Mel Torme and Roald Dahl.

Also, on this date five years ago, under the watchful eyes of our families and her daddy’s shotgun, my wife and I were married in her back yard with her being a wee bit pregnant. Afterwards we had a nice lunch at our favorite asian place in Tallahassee and went off to stay at one of the Disney properties for a long weekend. She still has not strangled me for being a jerk, or stabbed me for being an idiot. I definitely married up, so I think I’ll keep her another year. Enough of this sentimental shit and now…. the links!

Jeebus, New Mexico, get your shit together. I’m not saying its aliens, but… its aliens.

Some asshole in Bakersfield went on a murder spree before killing himself. From the pattern, it appears that he believed his wife might have been stepping out. Not a good reason for killing people, by the way.

New York’s Finest still the biggest, baddest, gang in the Big Apple.

Holy shit, can you imagine if your son fell out a tree-house, stood up and had a fucking meat skewer through is face to the handle? Glad he survived and will make a full recovery.

And by the way, this stall pattern is what fucked up East Texas so bad last year. Don’t pay attention to the Category rating, 40 inches of rain will fuck things up. Less wind is good, but Florence isn’t nothing.

 

I’ll put up one of my wife’s favorites. When she wants me to watch this song on her phone, I know its time to put down the booze and head to bed. Love ya, babe!

 

 

Comments

462 responses to “Thursday Morning Links”

  1. Slammer

    Congrats on the 5 years

    1. trshmnstr

      Seconded!

      1. MikeS

        3rd-ed!

        1. straffinrun

          4th-ed. It’s always a good sign when they count it by years and not slashes on the cell wall.

          1. bacon-magic

            fif-ed

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Even worse is when they extend that prison motif to everything:

            “Get over here and suck mommy’s dick”

          3. AlexinCT

            But I said I wanted to be the papa!

    2. PieInTheSky

      ditto

    3. Tundra

      Congrats and nice work!

    4. keep up ze good work, comrade.

    5. Trials and Trippelations

      Congrats

    6. AlexinCT

      Wishing you all the best sir. I tried it for 23 years and then had to give it up, but I always am happy to hear other people are married. Why the fuck should they be happy.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        The first 20 years are the easiest.

        coda: second wives are awesome

        pro tip: SEC sorority girls………………….full stop!

      2. AlexinCT

        My experience has left me believing that it will be a rare find at my age. The ones available tend to be available because they are broken and nobody wanted that. I guess I need to start reading obituaries to find the decent ones before they hit the meat market…

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          The majority of available women over 30 have been abandoned or misused; men are shit-stains, and available reasonable women outnumber reasonable men 4:1.

          Good news: There’s no competition! The man-children are huddled in their parents’ basement, rolling their debt from credit-card to credit-card, unemployed, and addicted to something. The rest are busy playing video games . Attack, man; charge the beach like a berserker; filter away any chick who calls her dad more than once a month or who hasn’t mastered shrimp and grits….whatever your bliss.

          And I’m doubling down on my SEC sorority chicks advice…..sorry they’re probably a might thin up ’round New Haven.

          1. AlexinCT

            I happen to be far north enough from New haven that I can avoid the stupid from there, but in my experience even the once that had their shit together (they were not financially in a deep hole because of crazy spending) have turned out to have some serious issues. Granted, I am not an easy guy to get along with, but I also make sure that I tell them that am not really looking to get married unless I find someone that i feel is worth it. I can’t tell you how often I find out – within weeks – that they are not what they seem to be and worse, they start badgering me about where the relationship is going. I dropped the wife because no matter how many times I explained that spending more than you make is a recipe for disaster, she kept doing it. Not going to pick up another one of those, and when I point that out they get pissed. I am not in the bailout business. Heck, I even had one of these ladies tell me to hurry up and make up my mind, because she was on the clock and had to land a husband soon since she was tired of having to work so hard to look good enough to attract a quality guy.

          2. WTF

            I even had one of these ladies tell me to hurry up and make up my mind, because she was on the clock and had to land a husband soon since she was tired of having to work so hard to look good enough to attract a quality guy.

            So she basically told you she was going to let herself go to shit after she had you on the hook, and was likely shocked when you dropped her.

          3. AlexinCT

            She was pissed. Accused me of being shallow and only wanting her for her looks. I asked her how she would feel if I told her I wanted to get married so I could quit working and live off her income, and she was quiet for about 5 seconds before telling me she hoped I would get killed painfully and slowly. But we understood each other at least. I suspect her next victim will not find out what she has planned if she can help it.

          4. trshmnstr

            The majority of available women over 30 have been abandoned or misused; men are shit-stains, and available reasonable women outnumber reasonable men 4:1.

            I’m still of the opinion that this observation is more due to women being able to hide their crazy longer than men.

          5. AlexinCT

            So much this. You have no idea how many women I have met that passed all the sanity tests as you did your initial exploration, only to show some level of crazy that made sirens go off when you ended up getting past the smoke screens.

    7. Tonio

      Congrats to you and the Missus.

    8. blighted_non_millenial

      Congrats

    9. Raphael

      Congrats to you, good sir. Hope you have many more blessed and happily married years to go!

    10. ron73440

      She still has not strangled me for being a jerk, or stabbed me for being an idiot.

      Sometimes, that’s all you can ask for.

      Congratulations.

    11. Count Potato

      Congrats

    12. Rasilio

      Indeed, congrats.

      That gets me thinking though.

      So we have all these products associated with anniversary gifts, like 25th = silver, 50th = gold, etc

      Here is the full list
      https://apracticalwedding.com/traditional-modern-anniversary-gift-ideas/

      Thing is guys really don’t care about that crap, we need a corresponding list of sexual favors by anniversary year to become a thing.

      Something like …

      1st – blindfolds
      2nd – ropes
      3rd – spanking

      5th – anal

      10th – blow job (possibly your last ever?)

      15th – threesome

      and so on

  2. Slammer

    Second!

  3. Slammer

    Third?

    1. MikeS

      Times a lady?

      1. MikeS

        I’d like to change my answer to: “I Don’t Know”

  4. PieInTheSky

    Everyone is busy ready the site updates

    1. Who’s ‘everyone’? I’d wandered off the page entirely and just come back.

  5. While this was more breaking news for the PM Lynx where I first posted it, being an unabashed capitalist, I feel compelled to shill my product to the widest audience. And many of you reprobates Glibs don’t seem to be in both lynx. So my new in question is that Lucid Blue’s Audiobook is now available. For those of us who get our literature in auditory form (such as while driving), audiobooks are an essential mental nutrient.

    /end shameless shill

    1. PieInTheSky

      Dunno, Tom. Seems expensive.

      1. Must be the forex rates.

    2. Psycho Effer

      Lucid Blue is probably my favorite of your books, but I don’t do Audible. I would recommend it to those who do listen to books rather than read them. I find the characters to be interesting, and the story to be well plotted and enjoyable.

  6. PieInTheSky

    Le us comment a link

    And by the way, this stall pattern is what fucked up East Texas so bad last year. Don’t pay attention to the Category rating, 40 inches of rain will fuck things up. Less wind is good, but Florence isn’t nothing.

    I feel this is still kinda guesswork. It could weaken further, intensify and go more or less inland.

  7. PieInTheSky

    Holy shit, can you imagine if your son fell out a tree-house, stood up and had a fucking meat skewer through is face to the handle? Glad he survived and will make a full recovery.

    – tis but a scratch

    1. No, that’s what you say when you’ve got an arm off.

      1. MikeS

        That’s merely a flesh wound.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      I hate to say it, but with my temper, I might snap and yell at my kid if he had a meat skewer through the face. I mean, it takes a while to get the coals started and the grill scrubbed. To say nothing of prepping with a marinade. Can’t he give me a bit of a warning (I was going to say headsup, but that seemed too tacky)

      1. Democratic Hitler

        How much time does it take to tell someone to quit their sniveling and walk it off?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          “Rub some dirt on it!”

    3. pan fried wylie

      I mean, depending on the axis, it’s either no big deal, or there’s not much you can do about it at that point anyway except hope it didn’t hit the part of the brain that controls the sphincter.

      1. Mojeaux

        That happened here. He fell because he and his buddies got attacked by a swarm of yellow jackets.

        What was interesting was that he was still more afraid of the yellow jackets coming after him than the spike in his face.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Trump? Why?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        The peoples of PR should string up their governor, but I’m sure the press will find some way to blame Trump.

    2. straffinrun

      “Is there anyone who can explain this?”

      Adam Smith?

    3. Drake

      When big government moves, things aren’t efficient.

      In ’91 my battalion’s position became a resupply site for the Division. A few days later we were told to move – and just drove away from hundreds of pallets of MRE’s. I have no idea if Division supply ever went back for them or just left it for the natives.

    4. WTF

      But somehow it’s Trumps fault because in addition to getting supplies to the island, it’s also his responsibility to distribute them throughout the island, because the locals have no responsibility or capability to do so, because Trump.
      This is what the proggies are actually saying.

      1. Of course it is. They don’t believe Puerto Ricans are capable of helping themselves, so anything that didn’t get done must have been the failings of their huwhite saviours.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          They don’t believe Puerto Ricans are capable of helping themselves

          Apparently, they’re right.

          1. Count Potato

            LOL

      2. MikeS

        Yep. FEMA was a excellent example of government working well, until Trump was elected and almost immediately the entire agency devolved into one big SNAFU. Fucking Drumpf!

        1. WTF

          Actually, FEMA was one big SNAFU under ChimpyMcBushitler, then it was an excellent example of government working well under The Lightworker, then under Trump it once again became one big SNAFU.

    5. Slammer

      Just cut the fucking fence and walk out there and grab a case.

      1. AlexinCT

        Would if it was bottles of Bacardi…

        1. Drake

          They would have if they actually needed the drinking water.

  8. The evolution of a scene is sometimes rather interesting.

    In my mental roadmap of “Prince of the North Tower”, there has long been a ‘Defense of Stamford Bridge’ style moment where one guy holds off a large force on a narrow bottleneck. In my pre-existing mental image, it always took place on a real bridge over a canyon. (So no saxon in a barrel floating under to give him a bad day.) The overall scheme was that the main hosts were engaged at a ford upstream of the bridge when the character notices the smaller force attempting to outflank his side via the bridge. And thus he rushes to defend that point until reinforcements can arrive.

    Anyway, as the draft of the novel reached the battlefield where this was to take place, the bridge no longer made sense. First, if there was a ford, why was there a bridge downstream at the harder to build-upon location of spanning the canyon? Second, how would it be entirely overlooked by the army that had held the general vicinity for some time at this point?

    The canyon itself was easy to explain by placing a waterfall between the ford and the ‘bridge’. But that still did not explain the existance of the bridge when the main road crossed at the ford. Several ideas for why it would be built and how it would go unnoticed by anyone save the character in question rolled through my mind. And as I was trying to draw the battlefield in words when the narrator looks upon it for the first time, I started thinking about little set-piece details. Like adding the broken-off head of a monumental statue carved by the people who used to control the area. The next question then was ‘where would the body of the statue lie?’

    That’s when the solution to the problem arrived. The bridge need not have been intentionally created as such. It was already established that the area is seismically active, so no human agency would be required to topple such a statue. If it landed across the canyon with the head popping off on impact and the body getting wedged neat the top, you’d have a bridge that could be easily overlooked as a potential crossing until it was too late.

    And so we can have our Stamford Bridge moment without making the narrator’s allies look like complete fools. Plus the battlefield gets a little more visually interesting.

    Okay, maybe “I turned a bridge into a statue” was more interesting in my head.

    1. straffinrun

      Is the badass a berserker?

      1. No, actually. He’s a reject from an arcane academy who’s suicidal. He decided to hold the crossing in search of a heroic way to go out.

        1. straffinrun

          Oh. It’s too bad the head popped off then. In a heroic act, he could’ve waited for the bridge to fill up with enemies and then lopped the head off, spilling everyone to their deaths in the river.

          1. It’s actually the narrator. There’s at least a quarter of the book left, and he’s supposed to come to grips with his issues and stop wanting to end it all.

          2. straffinrun

            You can still save him after his self sacrifice. Who’s in control of this universe, for gawd sakes?

        2. AlexinCT

          Unicuique super terram mors venit sero, sive cito. Et quomodo potestis bonum hominis moriatur adversus quam odds timidis autem, quia cinerem patres sui, et templa deum ejus. – Horatius

    2. While I continued to mechanically go through the motions of a day on the march, my mind had slouched into a dark place. My eyes fell on the mane between Graymire’s ears, but I didn’t really see it. I was replaying events stretching as far back as Zhalskrag, seeing every glaring mistake I’d made that led us here. It all hinged on one hasty moment in Gefrah. In one reckless decision, I’d set off down this road, and and sealed doom for the people at the Kestrel estate. Alternate images of them being cut down by steel and succumbing to the slow gnawing of hunger flashed through my mind. I didn’t know which fate had befallen them, but I was equally to blame for both. I lost count of days, and only gruntingly responded to Lenz when he pestered me. This only encouraged him to pester me more, so I finally forced my head up and looked at him. There was a worried expression on his face.

      “You wanted something, now what was it?”

      “You weren’t responding.”

      “Before that.”

      “I don’t even remember,” Lenz said.

      My unvoiced vitriol was cut off by the column’s sudden stop. It rippled through the army like a wave as each man noticed those in front of him had come to a halt. I broke formation and rode up to where Hengist was. Lenz followed. I didn’t care enough about his presense one way or another to say anything. I was just annoyed that our progress had been interrupted. Hengist had stopped at the ridge of a rise that gently sloped down towards a road. It was a slow incline of several miles across a patchwork of fields and pastures. Off to our left, the road ran straight as a rail past clumps of woodland before disappearing from view. Across the road, a tumbledown, cracked rock face rose steeply to above our current elevation. The river spilled down this slope and gurgled through the shallows before tumbling down into the canyon on our right. The ruined pilings of a vanished causeway jutted up from the shallow water like cracked ribs. The road resumed on the far side of the river, spearing into rolling hills of waving grass.

      Climbing up the rock face was a town of stout stone huts alongside a string of mills, a fraction of the river siphoned over their water wheels. Between us and the road glowered a massive stone face, part of a statue. The old dwarfen visage sat at an awkward angle, partly covered with turf and encrusted with moss and lichen. Birds had nested in its eyes, their droppings smearing down the cheeks like tears. Across the canyon, I spotted the feet of the statue, still attached to their plinth, and in better shape than the head. Where the intervening body lay, I could not tell, but in the river seemed as likely an answer as any.

    3. Psycho Effer

      You have magic in your setting, right? The bridge could have been rendered unusable to enemies by magic, making it unnecessary to defend with troops. The protagonist would have to rush to defend it if it were discovered that a magical countermeasure were being used to make the bridge accessible by the enemy.

      1. While a possibility, I’ve come to like the statue and the overlooked potentential to use it as a bridge.

  9. Drake

    Saw Chris Christie on the local news talking about the Woodward book. Woodward did not interview or fact check with Christie – just made up a lot of really detailed conversations out of his imagination.

    1. PieInTheSky

      It does not matter if something actually happened just that it could have happened…

    2. WTF

      Fake but accurate?

    3. AlexinCT

      When everyone says the guy never talked to me and what he is saying is bullshit, one wonders who would still look at this book as anything but an embarrassment. yet the usual dnc operatives with bylines keep peddling its stories as proof we live in Nazi Germany in these times…

      1. invisible finger

        I just assumed Woodward has always been a DNC operative with a byline. Being right once doesn’t make him right all the time by default.

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          I’d put it closer to a Tom Clancy novel: the actual details are classified, but we know a lot about the situation, there’s plenty of detail that’s being volunteered by the administration, and a creative genius ought to be able to gin out a compelling narrative that is 40 to 60% right.

          I don’t need to think Trump’s actuel Hitler or be a Hillary-sucker to quickly realize he’s a child and an idiot; I’ve been rolling my eyes at his antics for two decades. Whether the generals on his staff say it out loud, they do think he’s fucking idiot; it is inconceivable that such men could have useful education and experience that would create any simpatico with an unhinged, unprincipled, blustering buffoon…there is zero chance that some sort of convergent evolution rendered Mattis, McMaster, Flynn, and Kelly with the same world-view as a spoiled, Ivy League property development heir.

          A president who wasn’t an idiot wouldn’t spend his morning shit twittering about a criticizing book, be it spot on or be it fantastic.

    4. JaimeRoberto

      Maybe Woodward is just familiar with everyone’s thinking, which I’ve been assured is the best kind of sourcing.

      1. AlexinCT

        Mind reading for the win!

  10. PieInTheSky

    Opinion: Sure, Impeach Kavanaugh. But Don’t Stop There.

    Neither Trump nor his Supreme Court pick lack legitimacy. Both are the products of an undemocratic system that enables minority rule.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidklion/impeach-kavanaugh-but-dont-stop-there

    Get rid of the Constitution and bring mob rule already…

    1. Pat

      And then when they lose democratically our cherished republican institutions and federalism will suddenly become important.

      1. WTF

        Any system where the proggies don’t always win is immoral.

        1. AlexinCT

          ^^^THIS GUY GETS IT^^^

          Remember when they were telling Trump he would be undermining our legitimate system of government if he dared not to immediately accept Hillary’s victory, followed it up with a concession and congratulatory speech declaring her our empress while making sure to tell the unwashed masses how unworthy we were to have such an exhaled leader, and then shut the fuck up – forever?

          1. Democratic Hitler

            That’s different because Hillary would have had legitimacy because she would have been legitimate and also Russia.

          2. AlexinCT

            Oh, OK… My bad….

            /sarcasm off

    2. Rhywun

      I made it to the 2nd paragraph.

      a president […] who received 3 million fewer votes than his election opponent

      And…. we’re done.

  11. trshmnstr

    Hey GlibFitters, I did the HIIT workout this morning. Modified down to 3x of each section instead of 5x so that I don’t lose motivation and only did one run through of it. As long as you don’t take “sprint” too literally (I did a 9:30 pace, which is fast for fatty fat fat me ?) it’s a great workout!

    1. I’ve not done that.

      I did manage to get my intake down to sub 1300 calories. This is close to my expendatures from being a sedentary fat bastard.

      1. Jarflax

        Dude if your basal metabolic burn is 1300 calories that makes you a woman who weighs 135 lbs. You almost certainly burn 2000 plus just breathing if you are an overweight male.

        1. As far as I can tell, I gain weight in that range.

          1. Jarflax

            Based on how long of a sample? and at what weight points? fluctuations due to water retention, scale variance etc. can cause days or weeks of ‘weight gain’ while you are actually burning off fat. I do not think it is possible that you would actually gain weight over any significant time period eating sub 2000 calories.

          2. trshmnstr

            This is actually really topical, because I’m drafting the week 4 wrapup for GlibFit that will talk about body types and macro sensitivity. Based on my prelims research, I’m guessing that if you ate just under 2000 calories and replaced 1/2 of your carbs with fat and protein, youd see pretty drastic weight loss without the miserable mental and physical suffering of sticking to a 1300 cal diet.

          3. Interestingly, I’ve noticed that by switching to roughly equal portions of carbs and protein and a slightly larger portion of fat (30C/40F/30P) I can slide by on fewer calories without feeling particularly hungry. Now, the other thing I’ve noticed is that unless I get those carbs fairly early in the day my strength training performance suffers, but my cardio does just fine.

        2. I’m 6’2″ 230ish and a web developer, and my basal is in the 2000 neighborhood. If I only ate 1300 a day I’d die in a week.

          1. I highly doubt that. though checking my records I misspoke. 1280 was the “decling until I leveled out at 260 pounds and could lose no more with just dietary restriction” I was on that intake for over a year.

          2. Jarflax

            On it for a year but how long was the period of no weight loss at the end, because every long term diet has periods where weight loss stalls. This is especially true with extreme dieting (and despite what you say here sub 1300 calories is extreme for your size). I am deliberately avoiding the terms plateau and metabolic slowdown, because over longer periods the ideas those terms express are not actually true, but for periods of 2-6 weeks your body absolutely can stop losing weight in response to conditions it perceives as starvation. Adding exercise is in fact one way I have found that can break through such a slow down, but oddly adding calories works just as well if not better.

          3. A Leap at the Wheel

            Adaptive thermogenesis is the term used in the medical literature for what is colloquially called “metabolic slowdown” “starvation mode” etc.

            This paper gives a solid overview, along with 99 citations to other articles.

            This corpus of papers describe many features of energy balance, including adaptive thermogesis.

            This study shows that a cyclical calorie restriction results in a greater weight loss by reducing the amount of adaptive thermogenesis.

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        1) That is an incredibly low number. Its not nessisarily wrong, but Jarflax is correct, that’s crazy low.

        2) Even if its ‘wrong,’ if your measurement are always done the same, it doesn’t matter. That is, if a persona is always bias in the same way, that’s fine. If you accidentally measure half your calories on everything you eat, and your goal is half what it should be, that’s fine.

        3) Pathologically low energy expenditures could very well be a product of thyroid dysfunction. Have you had that tested by your doctor? I would, in the strongest terms, suggest you go do that as soon as possible.

        4) It would be incredibly unlikely that someone your size would have a energy expenditure of 1300 calories. But not impossible. A history of yo-yo dieting will push down a person’s energy expenditure long term. So will just losing the genetic lottery. So will a sedentary lifestyle.

        5) At your reported size, with that reported calorie number, you should seek medical intervention. While most primary care physicians are shit when it comes to obesity treatment, actual obesity clinics / bariatric clinics tend to be much better. That doesn’t (necessarily) mean surgery (some clinics are just slice-em-dice-em, but many are not). That means, first, screening for other health issues that would cause this number (such as the thyroid issue.) Then, there are a range of interventions and working with a medical professional that specializes in this area is the best way to find the interventions that fit you. For example, there are a large handful of appetite suppressant drugs. Tolerance for them is vary random, but if you can find one that works without side-effect, some have a good track record helping large people with low energy usage.

        1. I had been misremembering.

          1300 was the downslope number regarding weight with only intake control. It took me from 360 to 260.

    2. Nephilium

      I’ve been doing some HIIT on the stationary bike (since my outdoor riding has been… absent this year). There are times I really wish my stationary had better programming available. It’s got 15 sections (regardless of how long your workout is), so I can either do 1 period heavy sprint to 2 periods slow and easy or 1 period sprint to 1 period slow. Which means that it’s 15 minute workouts for the time being, with the workout being 2 minutes easy warm up (~5 resistance out of 20), then 5 periods of heavy sprints (~10 resistance 120 RPM goal), with 2 minutes of easy spinning between (~5 resistance 70RPM goal). The last period of heavy sprint coincides with the end of the workout, which then leads to a 3 minute cool down (~1 resistance). It can be brutal.

    3. Tres Cool

      Nice. Despite my mildly bruised heel, Im off for the 3.5 mile walk, and then 25 minutes on Big Pun, the elliptical, for potential cardiac issues and self-flagellation.

      I’ll just leave this here .

      1. pistoffnick

        Tres wrote: “and self-flagellation”

        Nice. It is important to reward yourself. How many calories per hour does masturbating burn?

    4. AlexinCT

      Trshmnster, the key is to stick with it. You must do whatever you can to keep it up. I had me a lull here for the last month where I drank too much, ate too much and broke my usual workout routine, and now I am looking at 10 more pounds on the scale I need to get back to working off.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Milton Snavely Hershey, if I recall correctly.

    People back in the day knew how to name their children.

  13. PieInTheSky

    So Romania is preparing a referendum to put the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman in the constitution. Besides the fact that it is stupid to have definitions of marriage in the constitution, it is like all other fuckin problems were solved in this country and this remains.

    1. Don’t worry some unelected, unaccountable robed oligarchs will declare your constitution unconstitutional.

      1. Charlie Suet

        Does sound like another job for Article 7 sanctions. And goodthinkers won’t complain because only bigots are against gay marriage and principles are icky.

        1. I expect a cascade of Article 50 separations until the EU removes it, then departures where the states say “No, fuck you, we’re done, article or not”

        2. PieInTheSky

          Ah I see a man with a discerning taste in preferred pronouns…

    2. AlexinCT

      Wait until they tell us we need to put the definition of self identified gender in the constitution Pie. That will be one fun event to look forward to.

      1. PieInTheSky

        Pie is already a recognized gender in Romania. My preferred pronoun is suet…

        1. pan fried wylie

          Et Tu, Suet?

    3. That’s the best time to do it! I’ve noticed that, certainly in the US, governments deal with the fluff that amounts to people yelling at each other until capitulation whenever there are real problems that nobody can figure out without expending effort.

  14. Rufus the Monocled

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/12/owner-italian-business-sold-fake-tripadvisor-reviews-jailed/

    “The owner of a business that sold fake, favourable TripAdvisor reviews to hotels and restaurants in Italy has been jailed for nine months, in what the travel website hailed as a landmark ruling.
    In one of the first cases of its kind, a court in Lecce in the southern region of Puglia ruled that writing fake reviews under a false identity is a criminal offence.”

    “i love it! The staff are amazing and the food was awesome! Will go back!”

    /Haji writing from typewriter in Burpistan.

    1. leonadasiv

      I will not use trip advisor. If you know the reviews are fake, clear them. But don’t throw a man in jail for your failing.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Should a restaurant’s marketing department be thrown in prison for claiming to have the ‘best food’ even when it’s clearly not?

        1. Obviously! That’s false advertising!

          /EU

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            EU MP 1: The food sucked! I was duped! Throw the bastards in jail!
            EU MP 2: I liked the food!

            Awkward silence.

    2. Enough About Palin

      ““The owner of a business that sold fake, favourable TripAdvisor reviews to hotels and restaurants in Italy has been jailed for nine months, in what the travel website hailed as a landmark ruling.”

      I’d like to hear his review of the jail.

  15. PieInTheSky

    A Romanian buddy of mine just received a copy of Bronze Age Mindset from someone and seems confused…

    1. He had more of an iron age mindset?

      1. PieInTheSky

        To be fair, you need to be highly intelligent to understand bronze age perverts writing…

        1. AlexinCT

          It’s all about the smelting?

    2. PieInTheSky

      The amazon description still amuses me

      The Atlantic named this author as possibly Steve Bannon’s contact in the White House (Rosie Gray, The Atlantic Feb 10 2017: ” ‘Think you should speak directly to my WH cutout / cell leader,’ Yarvin said in an email. ‘I’ve never met him and don’t know his identity, we just DM on Twitter. He’s said to be ‘very close’ to Bannon…Goal is to intimidate Congress with pure masculine show of youth, energy. Trump is said to know, will coordinate with powerful EOs…”); and a recent Vox article (Tara Isabella Burton, Vox June 1 2018) claimed that he is the “text” to Jordan Peterson’s “subtext,” and a “distilled” form of Peterson. Distilled means purer: yes, so why not read and understand the purer version? T. I. Burton also adds in this article that this author BAP is a kind of priest-king to thousands on Twitter and outside and is possibly leading a spiritual reawakening.

      Some say that this book, found in a safebox in the port area of Kowloon, was dictated, because Bronze Age Pervert refuses to learn what he calls “the low and plebeian art of writing.” It isn’t known how this book was transcribed. The contents are pure dynamite. He explains that you live in ant farm. That you are observed by the lords of lies, ritually probed. Ancient man had something you have lost: confidence in his instincts and strength, knowledge in his blood. BAP shows how the Bronze Age mindset can set you free from this Iron Prison and help you embark on the path of power. He talks about life, biology, hormones. He gives many examples from history, both ancient and modern. He shows the secrets of the detrimental robots, how they hide and fabricate. He helps you escape gynocracy and ascend to fresh mountain air.

      The pricing, he insisted on against all advice. It refers to the lucky 969 Movement of Burma, led by the noble monk Wirathu.

      Praise be to the Pervert. Praise be to his teaching of peace.

      Be careful.

  16. Say what now?

    Libertarian Socialists Organize Online Within the Libertarian Party

    The Libertarian-Socialist caucus is considered the only left-wing to far-left grouping within the political party. While the caucus, like a traditional libertarian group, advocates for freedom and liberty from the state, they also are in favor of some major form of freedom and liberty from the current capitalist system.

    “Markets set free of coercive institutions are by definition plural markets, meaning workplaces can be top-down or horizontal,” said Mike Shipley, member, and representative of the caucus. “The Libertarian Party platform currently affirms cooperatives as a voluntary method of organizing the workplace, and the original Statement of Principles as adopted at the party’s founding was amended in a debate to strike the word “laissez-faire capitalism” and replace it with the term “free markets” specifically to eliminate a right-wing economic dog whistle.”

    The purpose of the caucus, according to Shipley, is to construct a foundation that already exists within the political party in for left-libertarian opinions and thoughts to be expressed as well as having influence over electoral strategies and public policy.

    1. PieInTheSky

      The Libertarian Party platform currently affirms cooperatives as a voluntary method of organizing the workplace,- ehm yes you can organize a workplace as a cooperative. I don’t get it… As long as you own the company you can do whatever. Just leave my company out of it…

      I don’t get the left libertarian thing…

      1. AlexinCT

        Smells the same as marxism to me…

      2. straffinrun

        20th Century Motor Company.

    2. Pat

      So they’re slightly to the right of Sarwark then.

      1. Endless Mike

        NICE!

    3. bacon-magic

      I met a “libertarian socialist” the other day…he was raised on a commune. I suggested Road to Serfdom for him.

    4. leonadasiv

      It’s leftists trying to take control of the ballot access the libertarian party has.

    5. Jarflax

      Conquest’s 2nd rule collects another data point.

    6. Psycho Effer

      If you exercise your freedom to create a workers cooperative, there’s no skin off my nose. It’s just one of many forms of market competition that will succeed for fail based on the merits of the specific business that they implement.

      I don’t really see the point of creating a caucus for it within a political party, though. The point of a caucus is to put forward a specific policy or ideology in response to specific issues. If they are true libertarians, they should simply seek to eliminate the coercion from markets, rather than advocate how to use the freedom created thereby. I guess everyone needs their hobby horses.

  17. WTF

    Some asshole in Bakersfield went on a murder spree before killing himself.

    Unpossible! California has some of the nation’s most restrictive gun laws!
    Must have been another damn Indiana gun.

    1. Democratic Hitler

      We’re building The Wall in the wrong place!

  18. Tundra

    “This is the new normal, if you look across the country. Six people lost their lives in a very short period of time,” Youngblood said.

    Uh, no it isn’t fuckhead.

      1. WTF

        From the comments:

        I want to thank every Democrat for pushing so hard to protect illegal aliens and especially criminal aliens. We appreciate you “resisting” President Trump’s wall and enforcement efforts. We hope we can repay you in November by keeping you a minority party.

        The campaign ads really do write themselves.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Good luck airing those hateful bigoted ads full of wrongthink.

    1. AlexinCT

      BUT WE WANT UNINFORMED PEOPLE THAT WILL LET US DISARM THE PLEBES TO BELIEVE THIS!

    2. And then the article goes on to quote one of the police as saying that the murders clearly were not random, but they weren’t entirely sure of the relationship between the victims. So, as it turns out, people still kill people because of vengeance, guns or no.

  19. MikeS

    Rock tribute band Hairball‘s use of makeup for Prince portrayal raises concern”

    The PC absurdity rolls on:

    While Hairball and some of the band’s fans defend the Prince set as an accurate portrayal, others say the growing Midwestern institution’s use of blackface points toward the historical exclusion of people of color from arena rock, rather than a tribute.

    “When you’re portraying a brother, a minority, like Prince, it’s a different story,” said Pepé Willie, who served as one of Prince’s earliest mentors and who is black. “You have to think before you do something like that. Because people will get offended.”

    The refreshing part of this story is the band (so far) absolutely refusing to apologize:

    “We don’t care what Colin Kaepernick does. We’re a rock ‘n’ roll show. From the beginning of the show to the end of the show,” he said. “In the world of theater, men are women; women are men; black people are white; white people are black … In order for him to look like Prince, you’d obviously have to do something.”

    “We don’t play the race card,” he added.

    *EDIT FAIRY BLESSES YOU*

    1. MikeS

      Edit fairy? Pretty please?

      1. MikeS

        Ooh! Hawt!

    2. MikeS

      Linky

      1. Evan from Evansville

        FFS, Mike.

        Dig UP, stupid!

      2. Pope Jimbo

        See this is what happens when you take the time to bring electricity to the Rubes on the Prairie. We should have just let them be in their sod huts and the rest of us could have carried on in a civilized way.

    3. Tundra

      “Our fan base loves it, that’s the only reason it’s really in the show,” said band member Bobby Jensen. “If someone has a problem with it, don’t come to the show. That’s all you gotta do.”

      Bingo. Fuck off, slavers.

      1. Stillhunter

        Of course they end the article with the credentialed academic talking about how awful it is. His breakdown is awful as well. Hard rock/heavy metal only showed up after disco? Who the fuck hired this idiot?

        1. MikeS

          Yeah, and he teaches a class spewing that bullshit. Hard Rock became popular because a bunch of white dudes were mad that the wyminz and the gayz were getting all the attention in Disco. And apparently, rock concerts were sausage parties.

          Huh…odd that I remember the male/female mix at concerts being much closer to 50/50 than 100/0.

          1. Stillhunter

            I’ve seen Hairball a couple times. They put on a hell of a show. They play the casino up here regularly, or used to. I haven’t been in a while. The Halloween concert, maybe 8-ish years ago, was one to remember… er forget?

          2. MikeS

            I’ve had multiple opportunities to see them and still haven’t for some reason.l..just not much of a concert-goer anymore. I hear it is one hell of a fun show.

          3. Stillhunter

            Agreed on the concert-going. I went with my wife to the Lakefront music festival in SW Minneapolis burbs a couple years ago, maybe 4? man time flies. Anyway, we got in early since her sister was a co-coordinator of the festival and got right in the front. Two days of concerts. Front row. Full blast. First night (country night) I had to step away once Dwight Yoakam came on for the final act and had that really tinny sound that made my ears bleed.

            Next was rock night. I couldn’t hear for a week and my hearing has been noticeably reduced since then. I’ve listened to loud music, shot guns (mostly with hearing protection), and various other loud tasks, but damn if that didn’t make me sit up. No more concerts. Mostly because I’m not into them anymore, but also because I don’t want to be the dude wearing earplugs at a concert…

          4. “but also because I don’t want to be the dude wearing earplugs at a concert…”

            There’s a lot of people who do that. It’s fairly normal.

          5. Stillhunter

            crap. that was supposed to go to your OP. What I wanted to say here is:

            I’m sure any number of bands would love to question this moron about them not being hard rock/heavy metal in the 60’s. And they did it for the money and pussy, but mostly the pussy.

        2. “historical exclusion of people of color from arena rock”

          What … is … self-selection bias?

  20. The Late P Brooks

    “This is the new normal, if you look across the country. Six people lost their lives in a very short period of time,” Youngblood said.

    Of course it is. There will be no one left in a few months.

    1. I thought we were all already dead from the end of net neutrality. Or was it the tax cuts? Or was it the rollback of the individual mandate?

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    Wonder what the ratings will be like for the WNBA game.

    If they’re bad, I’m sure ESPN will tell people how sexist and bad they are. They’ll send Sarah Spain or Kate Fagan….or some of their woke men to do the job.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I mean maybe some people like it but compare to the NBA I just don’t find it as entertaining and I don’t watch much sports so if I do watch I want something at the highest level…

    2. MikeS

      They’ll send Sarah Spain or Kate Fagan….or some of their woke men any man still on the payroll to do the job.

    3. LJW

      The WNBA still exists?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        That’s what I was wondering.

      2. Rasilio

        Sure, there has to be someplace for lesbians to go on a Tuesday night

  22. Megan McArdle: A decade after the economic crash, too little has changed

    Certainly I was due for a rethink. I’ve made myself sound rather prescient here, and in some small ways I was — I expressed my first worries in print about a housing bubble in 2002, for example, and I really did ask that banker whether our risk-assessment skills were as good as we thought. But I had no more idea than he did that we were inching toward a precipice. And even when we were at the brink, I remained blind.

    Six months before Lehman, when Bear Stearns was in its death throes, I was aghast at the possibility of a government bailout. No to government interference in the market! Capitalism requires creative destruction! Then the government let Lehman fail, and the money markets started going with it. Looking into the abyss, I discovered an unexpected fondness for government intervention into massive market failures.

    Yet now, 10 years later, I’m surprised to find how little my thinking ultimately changed. I’m still basically libertarian, if a little more willing to countenance intervention in extremis. In this, I suspect I’m roughly typical.

    1. Tundra

      I’m still basically libertarian, if a little more willing to countenance intervention in extremis. In this, I suspect I’m roughly typical.

      Roughly typical of someone who isn’t libertarian.

      1. AlexinCT

        A lot of people keep using that word – libertarian – but I am starting to realize they are not really aware of what it means…

        1. Are you saying they keep using that word and you don’t think it means what they think it means?

      2. leonadasiv

        Yeah. The whole point of libertarianism is that you don’t need intervention during a crisis. That’s the principled part.

    2. Pat

      “I have chosen to categorize an almost entirely government-created crisis as a failure of markets, and even though the subsequent colossal government intervention did absolutely nothing, I still support colossal government interventions in future cases of government manufactured crises that I will categorize as market failures, because the idea of an omniscient savior is comforting to my small mind.”

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        And a small mind it is! And to have such a platform to express it!

      2. AlexinCT

        It baffles me why people don’t lynch these fuckers when they come barging in after a crisis of their making has destroyed untold wealth and demand to be given the power to “fix it”. How fucking often do people have to screw the pooch before we tell them to go fuck themselves?

      3. Endless Mike

        Which one of you did this? Absolutely brilliant response to this vapid article.

  23. straffinrun

    Time for our monthly camping trip. 3 day weekend coming up, so our circle of friends consisting of 6 families will head off to the mountains. Problem is that all the other fathers have work on Saturday, so that means I get to set up all the tents and the rain tarp with the help of 6 middle aged ladies. 3 babies an six 8 year olds in tow. The control freak momma of one of the kids made a spread sheet detailing all the tasks for each of us to do at the campsite. I want to do a light hearted trick on her to teach her a lesson. Ideas?

    1. PieInTheSky

      I don’t get camping… seems uncomfortable.

      1. Story from one of my neighbors. He’s a do-gooder kind of guy, so he takes his two sons and a Somalian refugee on a weekend camping trip.

        One the way back home, the Somalian says: “Why do you do this? It’s like living in a refugee camp!”

        1. PieInTheSky

          I went camping as a student. It was cheap. I can now afford a room.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          lol.

    2. Slammer

      STEVE SMITH LOVE LIGHT-HEARTED TRICKS TO TEACH LESSONS

    3. Burn the spreadsheet?

    4. Tundra

      Insist on doing things in the exact order presented. Unless she’s a seasoned camper it will quickly become a clusterfuck.

      1. straffinrun

        Generally, I just let them do their overcamping thing as I sit in front of my tent and chug a beer. “Looks difficult. Why’d you bring all that stuff? Your choice.” *Swigs beer*

        1. AlexinCT

          Sounds like you already know how to make this work. Sit around drinking beer and tell the womenz what to do… When the camp is all set demand they make you a sammich.

    5. Evan from Evansville

      Cum in her hair.

      1. WTF

        Well, that escalated quickly.

        1. PieInTheSky

          Maybe it was meant for the link at number 27

          1. Evan from Evansville

            Dude, that’s gross.

        2. straffinrun

          Kudos to Evan. That meager comment popped up nicely as I scrolled down. Literal Lol.

          1. MikeS

            popped up nicely as I scrolled down

            And that made me LOL for the second time in this sub-thread.

    6. Tres Cool

      There’s no place for spreadsheets in camping !

    7. Don Escaped Texas

      Every patrol should have a duty roster. In my BSA days, the scouters (adults) performed as a patrol and had a duty roster to model the method for the scouts; of course, we all pretty much did everything together, but we had our list.

      The question is whether you are individuals or a team. There really does need to be a decision on who covers second on a grounder to the right side, for example; one man can’t turn a double play. If you’re not a team, the earlier you demonstrate that, the better.

      I’m allergic to bumpers and can’t sleep within ten miles of one, so parking, saddling up the gear, and hiking into back-country ASAP are my MO. The nice thing about that: no light-weights. In back-country, you don’t have any whiners…hell, you seldom find anyone.

      Of course, whiskey is the official luxury of the back-country: about 20X easier to hump than beer.

      1. Drake

        I’m allergic to bumpers

        A new euphemism?

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          you skipped over “saddling up the gear” for that!?

          1. Drake

            Straffinrun is loading his van with “meat” and heading out to the woods…

      2. straffinrun

        In my twenties I’d load up the van with meat, a bottle of whisky and my sleeping bag. Drive up into the Rockies and keep veering off into narrower and narrower side roads until I found a hidden place to park. Then, I’d hike into the forest for an hour or so with my backpack and set up camp. Fire ring and primitive grill. I’d be set for the weekend. Almost always solo. Did that about 50 times. “Dude, can I go with you?” Uh, no. Friends thought I was a weirdo. But, got a kid and wife now. Meh.

    8. A Leap at the Wheel

      Ok, you get a bag of popcorn, and you cut a hole in the bottom…

    9. pistoffnick

      When it comes time to put out the fire, show them how the Native Americans did it with your own built in firehose. The smell of burning piss is quite distinctive.

    10. Rasilio

      Have her search the area for signs of snipe

    11. OneOut

      Easy peasy dude.

      Simply come up with a last minute work emergency and don’t show up until an hour after the other men.

      Then you can point you list maker to some YouTube videos about an English version of sex segregated version of survial.

      The men enjoyed an organized camp and the women had nothing.

      One woman was quoted as saying”I don’t understand ? My boyfriend told me that if it wasn’t for women we would all still be living in caves”

      Methinks she mistakes “women’ for “pussy”.

  24. Rufus the Monocled

    The fascist sons of a bitches finally got to Norm MacDonald.

    See this? THAT’S MY LINE IN THE SAND.

    1. straffinrun

      It was bound to happen. He made people genuinely laugh. When was the last time a late night host did that?

    2. Drake

      I need to go ahead and subscribe to http://www.compoundmedia.com just so I can hear people try to be funny without being hassled by the PC police.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Thanks for that. I find myself increasingly looking for outlets with balls.

        I can’t fucken digest seeing late night shitheads on my channels.

      2. Evan from Evansville

        I strongly suggest The Last Podcast on the Left.

        It’s fucking hysterical. I’ve never heard such HARD R-rated material (serial killers and shit like that, which is hard to make funny, but they’re very good.)

        I would recommend perhaps not listening to their political cast Abe Lincoln’s Tophat. Ben Kissel is the host/parent of the company and he’s worked and appeared at Fox (Red Eye was one of his things IIRC) and he used to be like…to a normal person a borderline acceptable libertarian. He’s gone away from that now due to TDS but he’s still better than most out there.

        They also have Movie Sign with the Mads, which is the guys at MST3K and the host talking about movies that they liked. Lots of fun content.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Cool. Merci a vous aussi.

          1. AlexinCT

            C’est la merde!

    3. PieInTheSky

      Zat iz not funny

  25. The Late P Brooks

    “The overwhelming number of police officers are honest and dedicated to making New York City a safe place to live,” Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said. “Neither my office nor Police Commissioner James P. O’Neill will tolerate that tiny percentage of officers who besmirch the reputation of the thousands upon thousands of their noble colleagues.”

    Not the new normal?

    1. Slammer

      NOBLE

    2. Gustave Lytton

      And nobody of those those thousands upon thousands of noble colleagues saw nothin’.

    3. Rasilio

      60% is a tiny percentage right?

  26. now where did I put that baseball cricket bat…

    95yo to be sentenced over sex assault on granddaughter

    One of the state’s oldest convicted paedophiles will be sentenced Friday over the sexual assault of his granddaughter in Eden in the early 1990s.

    Bega District Court heard on Wednesday the 95-year-old Victorian man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, told police his granddaughter was a “little sex pot” from the age of just three, who was “acting like a stripper” and the abuse would “bring an end to her ongoing flirting”.

    The man sat still in the dock as his victim told the court of her ongoing nightmares, flashbacks and depression suffered since her abuse at the age of just 12.

    1. Brett L

      So his name is Humbert Humbert.

    2. “who cannot be named for legal reasons”

      I.e., we don’t want him dead.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    The Libertarian-Socialist caucus is considered the only left-wing to far-left grouping within the political party. While the caucus, like a traditional libertarian group, advocates for freedom and liberty from the state, they also are in favor of some major form of freedom and liberty from the current capitalist system.

    IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

    FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

  28. Pat

    Gulags were ‘compassionate’, ‘educational’ institutions, say trans rights campaigners

    Students at a leading London university have been condemned as blind to reality after defending the system of Soviet Gulag labour camps where thousands perished as “compassionate” places of rehabilitation.

    Trans rights campaigners at Goldsmiths University described the Gulags as benign places where inmates received education, training and enjoyed the opportunity to take part in clubs, sports and theatre groups.

    In fact most historians agree they were a brutal network of labour camps used by Stalin’s Soviet dictatorship to incarcerate internal opponents and so-called “enemies of the state”, resulting in the death of more than an estimated 1.05 million people.

    During a bizarre exchange on Twitter the LGBTQ group at Goldsmiths Student Union described life in the Gulags as “rehabilitatory” and “educational”.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Also great diet plan…

    2. LJW

      The UK is a lost cause.

      1. Charlie Suet

        It’s Goldsmiths. What went you out into the wilderness to see?

        Pretending the gulags were like holiday camps and that people ‘didn’t want to leave when their sentences were up’ was common throughout the left between the wars. This is more a throwback than anything else.

    3. Tundra

      Peak derp?

      1. Drake

        It would be peak if they wrote it from an actual UK Gulag.

    4. Slammer

      Bezmonov is right…again

    5. Raphael

      I see they haven’t ever heard of good ol’ Ivan Denisovich.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        I received this reply after recommending they read The Gulag Archipelago

        Dany ”shrimp” Dorito
        ‏ @oakzar
        Replying to @JuvenileBluster @lgbtqgold

        It’s literally not a history book and the author is a rampant anti semite

        (the latter part is true, but has nothing to do with the conversation, so…)

        1. Raphael

          I’m sure Mr. Dorito is more than fine with the anti-semitism that Stalin and the Soviet Union encouraged however.

          1. AlexinCT

            It was for a good cause, you know? Utopia doesn’t happen without killing millions of kulaks and wreckers…

          2. Raphael

            It’s always the damn kulaks and wreckers’ faults.

          3. AlexinCT

            What? You think these idiots that are invested in this murderous ideology would ever admit it is the ideology?

        2. WHATEVER YOU SAY MR. SHRIMP DORITO SIR!

        3. Bob

          Jews were something like 80% of the leaders of the Bolsheviks. Animosity to people who wrecked you life and country and caused the death of millions isn’t so much anti-semitism as much as sound reasoning.

    6. Why it was just like summer camp. Here’s pictures of all the hi-jinx: https://www.cvltnation.com/brutal-drawings-from-the-gulag/

      1. Drake

        I’ve seen those. Communist are the lowest scum on Earth.

        1. straffinrun

          First time I’ve seen those. They sure did like putting pokers in the pooper.

          1. Drake

            That’s an old medieval thing. Nicely combines helplessness, humiliation, pain, and if the thing is hot and deep enough – a slow painful death due to the injury.

          2. AlexinCT

            Funny how all that old medieval shit, which actually was a rehash of older cultures doing the same, seems to be so popular with the collectivist movements. Whether it be communism or fascism.

        2. Yeah I’m pretty much a live-and-let-live kind of guy, but commies? They put me in a murderous rage.

      2. MikeS

        Holy fuck. This tid-bit was at the end of the article:

        Having no possibility to stock up on food in distant northern camps, getaway thugs often were taking inexperienced inmates with them – to kill and eat them on the way. In prison slang such victims were called “calf”. Even the approximate number of eaten “calves” is unknown.

    7. Evan from Evansville

      Goddamit. Where is that quote about the “they will only believe it when they have the boots on their neck” quote?

      I thought it was Yuri Bezmenov (sp) but now I’m second guessing myself on the wording.

      About how you can even give them correct information and they will still deny it until the very end.

      Help?

      1. Slammer

        Bezmenov. “When then military boot crushes their balls…then they will understand…but not before”

        1. AlexinCT

          Some of them are so gullible and stupid that they will continue to deny it then, is my guess.

        2. ron73440

          If only Stalin knew about these atrocities!

    8. Scruffy Nerfherder

      most historians agree

      Yeah, about that….

  29. Drake

    Google is just a front for the DNC now. I wish I could drop all their products without switching to Apple.

    1. trshmnstr

      Proton mail
      DUCK duck go
      (haven’t found a decent non-google map service)
      VPN/tor on your phone (I use orbot)
      Firefox with ghostery/ublock/etc

      The hardest things to escape are the Google core services on Android and the maps app

    2. Michael

      Update — After Breitbart News published this article, a Google spokesperson replied to a request for comment with the following statement:

      “At a regularly scheduled all hands meeting, some Google employees and executives expressed their own personal views in the aftermath of a long and divisive election season. For over 20 years, everyone at Google has been able to freely express their opinions at these meetings. Nothing was said at that meeting, or any other meeting, to suggest that any political bias ever influences the way we build or operate our products. To the contrary, our products are built for everyone, and we design them with extraordinary care to be a trustworthy source of information for everyone, without regard to political viewpoint.”

      Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

      1. James Damore not available for comment.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I run my business services thru them. Which makes it a royal pain the ass to switch to anything else. I’m wondering what my tolerance threshold for their shenanigans is.

    4. Count Potato

      “(00:13:10) CFO Ruth Porat appears to break down in tears when discussing the election result.
      (00:15:20) Porat promises that Google will “use the great strength and resources and reach we have to continue to advance really important values.”
      (00:16:50) Stating “we all need a hug,” she then instructs the audience of Google employees to hug the person closest to them.”

      Yes, that’s exactly the sort of dispassionate calculating person one would want in charge of a corporation’s finances.

      1. The real horror is that no one went “Why don’t we redirect these energies into providing our customers with products they want?”

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          It’s indicative of an organization that is ripe for competition.

          1. Like Starbucks?

            Fuck Dunkin’ Donuts for not taking on the challenge.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The simple fact that Google is involved in get out the vote efforts irks the shit out of me. You’re a business, not a damn community organizer. If you want to do charitable works, fine. But politics is not charitable.

        And crying at the office over an election and calling for hugs? GTFO now.

      3. Democratic Hitler

        That is some damning shit, and it’s just a small slice.

        I want to see Trump tweet out every single one of those timestamps as a separate tweet, just to see all the heads explode.

        1. Raston Bot

          now that would be EPIC.

      4. Mojeaux

        then instructs the audience of Google employees to hug the person closest to them

        “Get off me.”

        “It’s just a hug; don’t be such a spoilsport.”

        “Get off me or I’ll go to HR about your unwanted advances.”

        “You will not. It’s just a hug. Get over it.”

        *takes a trip to HR, gets purged*

  30. The Late P Brooks

    The caucus’ platform provides a combination of both traditional libertarian voluntarism and anti-capitalist socialism. Policies that they advocate for include a universal healthcare system that is free from private and public sector control, self-determination for U.S. territories in the Caribbean and Pacific Oceania, abolition of prisons with a focus on restorative justice, allowing euthanasia and assisted suicide for the terminally ill, permitting prostitution and all other forms of sex work, drug and alcohol substance legalization, decentralized workplace and labor union democratization, global demilitarization, and the eventual abolition of work as well as the creation of a universal basic income.

    Now you’re just fucking with me.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Besides every single thing being stupid… global demilitarization? how?

      1. WTF

        Same as abolition of work. Everything will run on rainbows and unicorn farts and utopia will spring into existence.

        1. Rasilio

          If we abolish all human work leaving it to robots to do everything for us what happens in 3 generations when all of the robots start breaking down and there is no human alive with the knowledge needed to fix them?

          Wasn’t there a movie that covered this, Idio-somethiing or other?

      2. AlexinCT

        Unicorn rainbow farts!

    2. Rebel Scum

      So leftists are trying to steal the word “libertarian” now.

      1. Raphael

        After having leftist friends shit on me for being “libertarian”, they can go screw off in a corner if they try to take this from us.

    1. Tundra

      + many Prop 65 labels.

      Nice find, Tulpa!

    2. MikeS

      The closing statement can’t be repeated enough:

      Chemicals make up every substance. The division between synthetic and natural is artificial. There is risk in everything, and we cannot lower it to zero, no matter how hard we try.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        didn’t read, and I respect “The division between synthetic and natural is artificial” mostly (if we’re talking about vitamins, say) but

        synthesizing new chemicals usually means creating pure stocks and exposing them to temperatures and pressures and catalysts in situations that would never occur in nature to yield new unnatural compounds

        which is handy as hell; d-g knows I’ve made a lot of money doing it myself; we need them; it’s a legitimate business, of course;

        but the odds that our genes and our organs are going to be ready for and respond well to exposure to synthesized compounds is remote; so it isn’t odd or unreasonable to classify some compounds or to be afraid of them.

        There’s a useful distinction to be made between people who exaggerate all chemical risks and those who help us tell the sheep from the wolves.

        1. MikeS

          (I’ve taken that under advisement and would like to modify my previous comment)

          Most of the closing statement can’t be repeated enough:

          Chemicals make up every substance…There is risk in everything, and we cannot lower it to zero, no matter how hard we try.

          1. Don Escaped Texas

            “There is risk in everything, and we cannot lower it to zero, no matter how hard we try.”

            Absolutely; the engineer in me preaches constantly: this vale of tears is just a sequence of trade-offs; in all things there is only risk versus utility

        2. Brett L

          One of the points he made is that we sometimes do synthesis of “natural” chemicals to achieve better purity.

          1. Wait, you mean the aspirin I get from the store isn’t all extracted from trees?

  31. German court sentences man over Hitler salute in Chemnitz

    The demonstrators were protesting over a fatal stabbing blamed on migrants that set off the worse far-right violence in decades, exposing deep divisions over Chancellor Angela Merkel’s liberal immigration policies.

    The district court in the eastern city sentenced the 33-year-old to an 8-month suspended sentence and ordered him to pay a fine of 2,000 euros ($2,325). A court spokesman also said the man had been put on probation for three years.

    The man was also found guilty of attempting to physically harm a policeman who had approached him after he had raised his arm in a Hitler salute, illegal under Germany’s post-World War Two constitution, during the protest two weeks ago.

    1. Democratic Hitler

      This is bullshit.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        This is absolutely normal.

        A firm majority believe government is there to make my neighbors do or not do what I approve or don’t approve; that’s what we’re voting for. People are authoritarian, statist assholes. Even in America, the goal is to elect my guy so he can make those other assholes behave, pray to the correct d-g, read the correct treatises……..

      2. WTF

        He should explain that it wasn’t a Hitler salute, it was a Democratic Hitler salute!

        1. Rebel Scum

          A Roman salute.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Belamy salute.

        2. Democratic Hitler

          It’s like they don’t even read the email bulletin.

  32. Pat

    UK’s mass surveillance regime violated human rights law, finds ECHR

    In another blow to the UK government’s record on bulk data handling for intelligence purposes the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ruled that state surveillance practices violated human rights law.

    Arguments against the UK intelligence agencies’ bulk collection and data sharing practices were heard by the court in November last year.

    In today’s ruling the ECHR has ruled that only some aspects of the UK’s surveillance regime violate human rights law. So it’s not all bad news for the government — which has faced a barrage of legal actions (and quite a few black marks against its spying practices in recent years) ever since its love affair with mass surveillance was revealed and denounced by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, back in 2013.

    The judgement reinforces a sense that the government has been seeking to push as close to the legal line as possible on surveillance, and sometimes stepping over it — reinforcing earlier strikes against legislation for not setting tight enough boundaries to surveillance powers, and likely providing additional fuel for fresh challenges.

  33. Juvenile Bluster

    Can someone PLEASE crowdfund a fake twitter app for our President so he can pretend to “tweet” and doesn’t continuously say dumb shit?

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000…

    Donald J. Trump
    ‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    …..This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

    Not only because it’s fucking idiotic, but because it props up grifters and idiots like the Krassenstein brothers.

    1. Don Escaped Texas

      “grifters and idiots”

      sorry: that’s all that’s to be had, TeamRed or TeamBlue

      a pox on both their houses

      1. Raphael

        Hear hear, a pox on both their houses and heads.

        *spits*

    2. LJW

      I hate it. He says stupid shit then the left says stupid shit and then I end up defending Trump even though I despise him.

    3. WTF

      Although I would like to know where the 3,000 deaths number comes from.

      1. straffinrun

        Seriously, how many actually died from the hurricane. I’d Google it, but …

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          There’s honestly no way of knowing. I think the best academic estimates are in the ~1500-2000 range. It might not be 3k but it’s assuredly not 18.

          1. LJW

            And how much analysis has been done to determine those deaths are the results of a lack of federal government aid? Sounds more like Puerto Rico is a shit hole from years of local government mismanagement.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            A lot of them absolutely were due to years of rampant mismanagement (like the failure of the power grid), but saying “the storm only caused 18 deaths!” is … well, dumb.

          3. AlexinCT

            Note that it looks like what he said that at the time he was there they had 18 confirmed deaths…

          4. Bob

            Deaths from hurricanes are quite low. High numbers are usually counts of deaths 6 months after a hurricane.

          5. straffinrun

            Considering the weak, in comparison, typhoon a week ago here killed more than 18, I’d bet your right that Puerto Ricans suffered a much higher death count.

          6. AlexinCT

            How many of those deaths happened simply because the place was a mismanaged shithole to begin with and the hurricane then did the Darwin thing?

      2. Drake

        There are 7,432 deaths on average in the U.S. every day. Some of those had to be near the hurricane….

      3. blighted_non_millenial

        It’s from a GWU study. Best I can tell somewhere between 1400-1800 people died as a direct result of the hurricane and the immediate aftermath. The rest are due to “increased mortality” for like the next 6 months. So the 3000 number is bullshit, but 64 is also bullshit.

    4. Count Potato

      It doesn’t seem that stupid, if you speak Trump.

      Puerto Rico is a mess. It was a mess before the hurricane. And counting every death since the hurricane as being caused by the hurricane is retarded.

  34. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Why you need a gun: Exhibit 27,834,558,324

    No one from the city would force people to leave evacuation zones. Officials say it’s a personal decision.

    So who are the people in fluorescent vests going door-to-door? The city is trying to find out.

    The reports came in Tuesday, city spokeswoman Lori Crouch said.

    “We started to get some messages from NextDoor and calls to the Care Center that people were going around in fluorescent vests and going to residents in Zone A basically forcing people to leave their homes,” Crouch said. Zone A is under a mandatory evacuation from the state, but that doesn’t force people to leave.

    Businesses in Ocean View reported that people in fluorescent vests told them to shut down and leave because they are in an evacuation zone, Crouch said. She didn’t know which neighborhood the NextDoor report came from.

    Crouch said that these people are not Norfolk employees and that the city would never force people to leave evacuation zones. “That’s absolutely a personal decision.”

    Officials have no idea who the people are or why they may be trying to force people from their homes. No further descriptions were available.

    Officer Joann Hughes said the Norfolk Police Department only knows what has been passed along from the city. The department is making patrol officers in Ocean View aware of the reports.

    1. Semi-Spartan Dad

      After New Orleans PD went door to door confiscating firearms during Katrina, VCDL at least got a law passed here in VA explicitly forbidding the confiscation of firearms during a state of emergency.

      1. Suthenboy

        I want to know why the people that did that are still breathing.

    2. AlexinCT

      Would not be surprised to find out it is people trying to figure out what houses to loot and making sure there will be nobody there to hinder their efforts.

      1. ron73440

        That’s what it sounded like to me.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s exactly what it is. I know the neighborhood, it’s not Beverly Hills around there.

  35. Pope Jimbo

    OK. If it is aliens out there in NM, they are definitely the all time trolls.

    “Hey Mork, I know we’ve hidden ourselves for 3000 years, but think how awesome it would be if we appear now and demand to talk to Trump!”
    “Holy Xanthippe! Think of the liberals heads exploding as they ponder Trump negotiating for the survival of the human race. That would be epic. Let’s do it.”
    “Maybe we could act all surprised that Hillary lost and claim we were sure we sent her an email about our visit?”

    Of course, the Deep State is busy trying to cover that shit up.

    1. LJW

      Plot twist. Trump is one of them!

      1. Pope Jimbo

        What if Hillary was one of them and the aliens are really urinated off by the Russian collusion?

      2. leonadasiv

        They are from the planet Ru’ss-ia

        1. AlexinCT

          At least you didn’t say Ur-anus…

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      They came out and endorsed Trump. Of course, our mainstream media wouldn’t even touch this story.

      http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/68880/alien-endorses-trump/

    3. pan fried wylie

      I’m imagining this scenario where the govt successfully blocks the aliens’ attempts at mass communication. The aliens call in backup for a comprehensive door-to-door campaign, just waiting for 2billion copies of the “We’re Real” pamphlet to come off the replicator.

  36. Juvenile Bluster

    Google’s response to the Breitbart video is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.

    “At a regularly scheduled all hands meeting, some Google employees and executives expressed their own personal views in the aftermath of a long and divisive election season. For over 20 years, everyone at Google has been able to freely express their opinions at these meetings. Nothing was said at that meeting, or any other meeting, to suggest that any political bias ever influences the way we build or operate our products. To the contrary, our products are built for everyone, and we design them with extraordinary care to be a trustworthy source of information for everyone, without regard to political viewpoint.”

    Why must these people make me defend hellholes like Breitbart? Andrew Breitbart’s still rolling around in his grave seeing what his site became after he died.

    1. LJW

      “Nothing was said at that meeting, or any other meeting, to suggest that any political bias ever influences the way we build or operate our products.”

      Except for that recent email leak that came out suggesting the exact opposite of what you claim.

    2. Just Say’n

      https://mashable.com/2017/10/31/google-docs-locking-people-out/#UzbmNNK78aqa

      Mashable, apparently, is reporting that Google has been locking people out of documents. But, they are a private company and can do whatever they want. Which is exactly what I’m going to say when Verizon starts blocking me from texting wrong thoughts.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Nobody should be writing hate speech or death threats in their Google docs — or anywhere.

        The author doesn’t have a problem with Google locking people out of their documents as long as it conforms to her preferences for doing so.

        1. Just Say’n

          Of course, he’s a “journalist” which are the people that pose the greatest threat to free speech today

  37. LJW

    Thousands of water bottles meant for hurricane survivors left to rot in Puerto Rico

    “Puerto Rico’s General Services Administration said back in May that the agency received around 20,000 pallets of water through a federal government program to distribute excess supplies, the agency said in a statement to ABC News. After delivering more than 700 pallets, they received complaints about the smell and taste of the water from a municipality, the GSA said.”

    “The government of Puerto Rico did not receive the water to distribute during the emergency, it was under FEMA’s custody and it wasn’t until April 2018 that the surplus inventory was available upon request,” Hector Pesquera, Puerto Rico’s secretary of public safety, announced at a press conference in San Juan on Wednesday.”

    Speaking of Puerto Rico

    1. PieInTheSky

      hmmmm

    2. LJW

      Derp just saw that was already posted. Oh we’ll just a fresh reminder in case you missed it.

    3. CampingInYourPark

      Because the bottled water has been under the sun for months, all the water is contaminated and is not suitable for consumption, Cruz Ramos said.

      This looks a lot like bullshit

      1. WTF

        It’s contaminated BY THE SUN!!11!!!

      2. invisible finger

        The water can be consumed for clothes washing, lawn and garden watering, toilet flushing, etc. I’m sure these idiots will pour it into the ocean instead.

        1. MikeS

          I don’t understand why it just couldn’t be, you know, consumed. Short of contamination at bottling, how does bottled water go bad?

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Got chemicals in it, duh.

            Seriously, I would assume the issue is that they are in plastic bottles or containers that are not rated for the heat and UV exposure and have leached chemicals into the water.

          2. MikeS

            Ah yes. Well, I sure hope they don’t let any frogs drink it.

          3. BPA Contamination from the Plastic!

            /someone, somewhere

    4. Rebel Scum

      Failure of the government of Puerto Rico. Must be Trumps fault.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    Thinking more and more about less and less

    About 15 years ago, before Twitter existed, companies paid agencies for “guerrilla” and “buzz” marketing; the agencies would surreptitiously seed conversations about the companies in chat rooms and on message boards, and report back on the sentiments they saw there. Then the social platforms arrived: Blogger, Myspace, YouTube, and others.

    That’s what spawned the new social-media-management economy. Around 2010, when the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling reinforced the breadth and power of corporate personhood in America, businesses started developing online personalities. Now almost every brand is a #brand too. Spend enough time perusing corporations’ social accounts, and you’ll start to see distinct personas emerge: Wendy’s is catty; Arby’s is geeky; Charmin is, well, cheeky. This shift has ushered in a whole new job category. Companies employ social-media managers and online-content specialists to trawl Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and other platforms, looking for opportunities to engage—a favorite word of online advertisers—or in my case, to send pizza.

    ——-

    But it’s human nature to feel obligated when someone—even a company—does something for you. That can make the people on the receiving end of social-media marketing feel snared in corporate traps. The fire victim was probably appreciative, but will he later feel indebted to a frozen-meat company? Likewise, Evan Wilt and Haley Byrd’s union is now forever bound to a chocolate bar.

    As for me, here I am—with some ambivalence—giving Comcast publicity for its pizza stunt, doing the very thing the company claimed it didn’t expect. Social media has made it easier than ever for companies to connect with people. These new, personal bonds between companies and customers feel uncanny—the brands are not real human friends, exactly, but neither are they faceless corporations anymore. Isn’t that the point, though? Branding’s purpose is to get under your skin, to make you remember an otherwise forgettable company or product. When the surprise wanes, that feels a lot less delightful.

    Those ruthless capitalist bastards, ceaselessly looking for ways to engage in voluntary trade with their hapless victims. All facilitated by Citizens United and a Nazified Supreme Court.

    This sort of manipulative social media trickery will be banned when our libertarian socialist paradise arrives. We will free ourselves from the yoke of enterprise.

    1. PieInTheSky

      So you are saying there ought to be a law?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Law? That shit takes too long.

        “There oughta be a mob!” is more the speed of our current times.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That is some weapons grade stupid.

      “I really hate it when people I don’t like do nice things”

    3. Rebel Scum

      the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling reinforced the breadth and power of corporate personhood

      No, it didn’t.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        but most historians agree…

  39. Just Say’n

    https://reason.com/blog/2018/09/12/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-so

    FTA:

    “There is some of that, however submerged, in today’s calls for socialism. It’s not a bad ideal, to want individuals to be able to flourish however they see fit. In fact, that corresponds almost perfectly with the ways most libertarians talk and think about social organization. What system is most likely to allow individuals to become whomever they want to become? In this sense, socialism and capitalism (to use incredibly oversimplified terms) are both part of the liberal Enlightenment project that begins with autonomous, equal individuals.”

    “I don’t expect to ever change the mind of a committed socialist. But libertarians can’t expect to engage, much less persuade, anyone flirting with socialism if we simply invoke Stalin, the Great Leap Forward, or even Hugo Chavez every time socialism gets mentioned.”

    Just a reminder, the writer of this piece is the same person who smeared Walter Block as a “neo-confederate” in the NYT. He also writes for the same publication that has labeled Jordan Peterson a “budding cult leader” and an intellectual of the alt-right, along with associating the Ron Paul Movement with the alt-right. But, don’t make fun of socialists, he says.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      In this sense, socialism and capitalism (to use incredibly oversimplified terms) are both part of the liberal Enlightenment project that begins with autonomous, equal individuals

      Gillespie is either lying thru his teeth here or he is a lot dumber than I thought.

      1. Drake

        or and

        A decade ago I had some respect for him.

      2. Just Say’n

        He’s not this dumb. His ideology is based upon keeping up with respectable opinion and defending the status quo, so this article makes total sense.

        I will note, though, that nearly no one accepts the notion that socialism is rooted in the Enlightenment. Hegel (who played an important part in communism, if not all brands of socialism in total) is most certainly not an Enlightenment thinker. He’s a product of Romanticism, which was a reaction to the Enlightenment

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          He’s a product of Romanticism, which was a reaction to the Enlightenment

          Exactly, Rousseau, Kant, Hegel, Schopenhauer et al were all deeply dissatisfied with the Enlightenment and developed the philosophical underpinnings for socialism and postmodernism. Gillespie is dead wrong on that point and he has to know it.

          1. Just Say’n

            Kant and Rousseau were Enlightenment thinkers, but their philosophies did provide the fertile ground for the reaction to the Enlightenment. I would also throw Hume into that category. His whole epistomology discourses eventually devolved into subjectivity.

            Also, Rousseau was such hot garbage. God that guy sucked so hard

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I’d put Kant more in the counter-Enlightenment. The entire thrust of his work was to undercut reason (the traditional definition, not his) to make room for hobby-horses.

            “all objections to morality and religion will be forever silenced, and this in Socratic fashion, namely, by the clearest proof of the ignorance of the objectors.”

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Rousseau was just a piece of shit.

          4. Drake

            I’m not sure he knows it – he seems to have the same purposeful disregard for history as the people he’s apologizing for in the article.

    2. The Other Kevin

      The more I think about it, the more I see that socialism, just like our education system, is a response to the industrial revolution. Both are built on the assumption that most people work in a factory or in a field. Outside of some poor countries, we don’t live in that world anymore. For example, do we really need unions to protect workers, when those workers can get online and find a job a better job anywhere in the US? Or at least somewhere within driving distance?

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Correct. Socialism is an ism based on logic formed from observations of an economy that was learning how to turn out interchangeable commodities using interchangeable workers.

        The concept of an interchangeable commodity is just not where the economy is these days, and almost no jobs can use interchangeable workers any more. Unskilled labor positions are rare, low paid, and stepping stones to other jobs now. Before, they were the end goal for a lot of workers.

        1. Pat

          The concept of an interchangeable commodity is just not where the economy is these days, and almost no jobs can use interchangeable workers any more.

          That’s really only true of the upper end of the developed world. Mostly the USA, Canada, and the Eurozone. And even then it’s an overstatement. We’ve succeeded in moving the production of interchangeable commodities by interchangeable workers to places where we don’t have to look at it anymore, but it’s still getting done and still needs to get done. The army of $15 per hour paper shufflers living it big in our first world “knowledge” economy still have to wear mass produced clothes and drive mass produced cars to their mass produced offices and homes full of mass produced nuts and bolts and consumer electronics so they can afford their monthly supply of mass produced pills to keep them functioning until they end up in a mass produced casket. Granted, we’re rapidly approaching a point where a substantial portion of the interchangeable workers will be replaced by machines, but the automated factories are still going to be cranking a lot of interchangeable goods. It’s the stuff that modernity is made of.

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Yes, I was talking about US of A only.

    3. Rebel Scum

      f we simply invoke Stalin, the Great Leap Forward, or even Hugo Chavez every time socialism gets mentioned.”

      Why? These are examples of the logical end result of socialism. Socialism is State control of, well, everything. It requires conformity and this will always require a strongman, resulting in dictatorship and tyranny.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Certainly, nobody ever brings up Hitler or Mussolini when fascism is invoked.

      2. Yeah, it’s a real shame that when people bring up theoretical socialism as a policy objective we bring up the results of actual socialism that has been enacted as policy.

    4. kbolino

      We’ll never convince the Holocaust deniers if we just keep harping on about all those dead Jews!

      More seriously, suppose there is an “alt-right” of significant size that is growing in size and influence and it is at least flirting with fascism. Are we to apply the same sort of reasoning with them? Don’t bring up Hitler or the Holocaust, or accuse them of being “hateful” or “bigoted” or “evil”, because “we” can’t expect to “engage, much less persuade” anyone if we do, right?

      But, of course, socialists get the benefit of the doubt because they’re “well intentioned”. Their hearts are in the right place, even if they can’t explain the difference between the “socialism” of Europe (sans Belarus) and the socialism of Marx beyond “all the good stuff we like vs. all the bad stuff we don’t”.

      1. Pat

        More seriously, suppose there is an “alt-right” of significant size that is growing in size and influence and it is at least flirting with fascism. Are we to apply the same sort of reasoning with them?

        I think Reason pretty well went on the record on that score when they ran op-eds from Dalmia, Nolan-Brown and Soave justifying violence against Richard Spencer, Milo Yiannopoulos, and… anybody who happened to be in the path of destruction of the Michael brown chimp out, in ENB’s case.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Right wing smear machine

    Facebook, in an effort to deal with the fake news crisis, has given five news outlets the power to block the spread of articles they deem “false” on Facebook — empowering them, in essence, to act as the social media giant’s censors. They are the Associated Press, FactCheck.org, Snopes, PolitiFact, and the Weekly Standard: four nonpartisan outlets and one conservative one.

    Yes, yes, of course.Those guys are all totally dispassionate observers and scrupulous reporters of fact, except those frothing troglodytes at the Weekly Standard.

    How is anybody able to take Vox seriously?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Well, those organizations say they’re non-partisan, why don’t you believe them?

      1. Rebel Scum

        ///NarrativeFactsFirst

    2. I don’t think anyone who does not work at Vox (and even few of them) took Vox seriously from the moment its formation was announced.

    3. Democratic Hitler

      How could they be partisan when they have FACT right there in the title?

    4. Raphael

      The same way some people take Vice and other rags seriously. Whatever fits the narrative, my man.

    5. Just Say’n

      The conservative publication that they choose is The Weekly Standard. Which represents perhaps the shittiest brand of conservatism, the nefarious neoconservative.

      The burgeoning love affair between progressives and neocons should forever end the fallacy that progressives have any disposition toward a non-interventionist foreign policy. Even if you are completely ignorant of all history proving this to be true, embracing Bill Kristol should put an end to this question

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        NeoTrotskyites would be a more apt descriptor for the neocon scum.

    6. Raston Bot

      Vox is laughably self unaware. Snopes is pretty unbiased when you’re looking up the story behind the Goat Man and Crybaby bridge in Maryland or other tall tales. But using Snopes for anything political is a joke.

    7. Rebel Scum

      fake news crisis

      But enough about CNN.

    8. Count Potato

      “Facebook, in an effort to deal with the fake news crisis”

      Citation needed.

      1. kbolino

        They’ve got no intention of getting rid of fake news. It’s going to be about burying stories they don’t like, real or fake, and elevating those they do, real or fake, until the approved narratives are the only things that can be held up. Facebook might not intend this outcome, but their choice of arbiters pretty much guarantees it.

        The real test will be how they handle retractions of the stories they bless as “real” news.

        1. “Fake news” = anything heterodox from their Left-wing lockstep.

          1. kbolino

            The inclusion of the Weekly Standard implies they will allow some variant of right-wing thought. But, I think you are right to label what they will purge as heterodoxy. The views and reports of heterodox conservatives and liberals will likely both be on the chopping block. Ideas that would have been uncontroversial on the left 10-20 years ago will be unacceptable.

    9. kbolino

      I don’t know enough about FactCheck.org (although the name isn’t encouraging), but by my count that’s two left-wing outlets (Snopes, Politifact), one right-wing outlet (Weekly Standard), one left-leaning fence-sitter (AP), and one unknown (FactCheck.org). Framing it as a conservative fox in the “nonpartisan” hen house seems disingenuous.

    10. “How is anybody able to take Vox seriously?”

      They’s the smurtest of the smurt.

    11. Pat

      Snopes mind you can’t even get the facts of its contract with its advertising partner worked out. To say nothing of the facts of its founders’ acrimonious multi-million dollar divorce.

  41. Mojeaux

    @BrettL Congrats on your anniversary! Mr. Mojeaux and I share the day with you and Mrs. Brett. 16 years for us. I chose to get married on Friday the 13th on purpose. Sort of a “fuck you” to the universe.

    @straffinrun Re UCS’s plot problem:

    Who’s in control of this universe, for gawd sakes?

    The character. After you give him a personality, he makes all the decisions within the limits of what is logical for him.

    1. The Other Kevin

      Congrats to the Mojeauxs and the BrettL’s! I will be celebrating 20 years in February.

    2. Raphael

      Congrats to you as well, happy anniversary!

    3. Devil’s Advocate, I believe Straffin was more speaking about whether or not someone is liable to survive the fall into the river, or snag on something on the way down rather than the character’s actions.

      That said, I’m not entirely convinced the narrator is able to break the neck of a flesh and blood dwarf, let alone that of a hundred ton plus stone statue of a dwarf. I’ve been mentally brainstorming choreography for future scenes, including an ambush in the Dwarfish throne hall by Badger Knights (dwarfs riding dire badgers) and when I thought of him leaping onto one of the badgers, breaking the rider’s neck and taking his halberd, the plausibility alarm went “whoah, when did this guy ever demonstrate the strength to do a one-armed neck snap of a grizzled warrior type?

      1. Mojeaux

        Oh, yes, physics, the All Father. /Preacher

      2. straffinrun

        I’m not talking about the character’s behavior. As you said, something in the physical environment saves him at the last moment. Didn’t know how big the statue was. You’re on your own.

        1. I haven’t fully defined it, as the scene hasn’t been written yet, but in the “potential dialogue” part of my vision I have an exchange like:

          Pikeman: “Just one? You realize there are two hundred of us?”
          Narrator: “This bridge is only wide enough for five of you at a time.” (some internal monologue about bluffing them into hesitating to attack to draw out the encounter so they don’t take the far end before reinforcements arrive.)

          1. straffinrun

            Getting real close to King Leonidas, don’t ya think?

          2. Stefak didn’t send any archers to provide shade.

          3. Though in this case, the pikemen are trying to talk up their own courage. They’re from a land where men average 5’8″ or so facing a guy who is somewhere in the range of 6’4″-6’6″ wielding a two-handed sword made for breaking pike squares. The apparent unconcerned attitude of their singular opponant contributes to their reticence to attempt to push across the bridge.

    4. blighted_non_millenial

      Congrats

    5. Jarflax

      Whoever keeps writing these democrats really needs to work on what ‘logical’ means.

      1. Mojeaux

        Fiction has to make sense.

    6. straffinrun

      And congrats to you. The Mojeaux’s get their MoJo on.

      1. Mojeaux

        Thank you! Our big anniversary adventure today is my postop followup. :/

    7. MikeS

      Congrats Mojeaux! And kudos on the Friday the 13 wedding. I’m with you in the 13-is-my-lucky-number-becuase-FYTW camp. Well, that and I was born on the 13th. (not a Friday)

  42. Mojeaux

    Re: UCS’s caloric intake, Jarflax said:

    but for periods of 2-6 weeks your body absolutely can stop losing weight in response to conditions it perceives as starvation

    Many years ago I lost a lot of weight via low-carb. I went through a 3-month period of not losing per the scale. What was interesting about this was that I was extraordinarily clumsy, which I have never been. I was also occasionally dizzy. My equilibrium was off. My clothes fit better, so I wasn’t too worried. As soon as I started losing per the scale again, my clumsiness and dizziness had resolved. In hindsight, I could see that that 3 months was my ears adjusting to my greatly altered center of gravity.

  43. ron73440

    Someone here (Tundra?) recommended the Waco series on the Paramount network.

    I had it sitting on my DVR forever and started watching it last month.

    I could only watch two episodes at a time because it’s so enraging, but it was very well done and really showed the sequence leading from Ruby Ridge to Waco.

    My wife had no idea how the standoff ended and I felt a little sorry for her as the building caught fire. And then there was a list of all the times standoffs had led to teargas, flames, fire and death. I told my wife they were forgetting one element: Surprise, because after each incident listed the officials were always surprised that a flammable gas caught fire.

    It is currently on AMAZON and I highly recommend it if you want to have trouble sleeping and don’t quite distrust the government enough.

    Seriously, it is a great show, just hard to watch.

    We then watched CNN’s two part show “How it Happened: Waco” and it was surprisingly honest about the screw ups and infighting with the FBI and ATF.

    I also recommend this although at the end it brought up Timothy McVeigh seemingly as a representative of anti government people.

    1. Pat

      I was a kid when Ruby Ridge was happening, but since we lived in eastern Washington and it was local-ish news, we were inundated with it even more than the national media, and my news junkie parents followed it closely. The local coverage was a lot more interesting and nuanced than the rah-rah kill whitey coverage on the national networks. Even at my tender age I had an understanding at some instinctual level what an unmitigated clusterfuck it was. It wouldn’t surprise me if it subliminally shaped my political leanings later in life.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    “I really hate it when people I don’t like do nice things”

    In a world in which opening a door for a woman with her arms full of packages is tantamount to forcible sodomy, it’s is a reasonable response.

  45. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Facebook bans Brandon Straka, the#Walk Away guy, supposedly for saying he was going ro appear on InfoWars for an interview:

    http://pirateswithoutborders.com/information/454977-unbelievable-facebook-bans-ex-democrat-walkaway-founder

    1. Democratic Hitler

      Well, that will certainly undermine his message and his credibility! Take that, Brandon!

    2. Count Potato

      So you can’t even post links to InfoWars on Facebook? That makes no sense. Even if one were against InfoWars, it would prevent users from pointing out and refuting anything on InfoWars.

      1. They’ve been unpersoned. There will be no reference to them.

    3. Mojeaux

      TW: ZeroHedge (from the comments)

      “War preparation breeds the snakes of censorship.”

  46. The Late P Brooks

    when I thought of him leaping onto one of the badgers, breaking the rider’s neck and taking his halberd, the plausibility alarm went “whoah, when did this guy ever demonstrate the strength to do a one-armed neck snap of a grizzled warrior type?

    Just re-write him as an 85lb pubescent girl. Your credibility issue is completely resolved.

    1. Mojeaux

      Manic pixie dremgirl #FTW!

  47. The Late P Brooks

    “Because the bottled water has been under the sun for months, all the water is contaminated and is not suitable for consumption, Cruz Ramos said.”

    This looks a lot like bullshit

    Particularly when there was a flurry of stories about how filling plastic bottles with ground water and leaving them in the sun rendered the water safely drinkable.

    *goes off to look*

  48. The Late P Brooks

    via Wiki all-knowing

    Solar thermal water disinfection uses heat from the Sun to heat water to 70–100 °C for a short period of time. A number of approaches exist here. Solar heat collectors can have lenses in front of them, or use reflectors. They may also use varying levels of insulation or glazing. In addition, some solar thermal water disinfection processes are batch-based, while others (through-flow solar thermal disinfection) operate almost continuously while the Sun shines. Water heated to temperatures below 100 °C is generally referred to as Pasteurized water.

    The ultraviolet part of sunlight can also kill pathogens in water. The SODIS method uses a combination of UV light and increased temperature (solar thermal) for disinfecting water using only sunlight and PET plastic bottles. SODIS is a free and effective method for decentralized water treatment, usually applied at the household level and is recommended by the World Health Organization as a viable method for household water treatment and safe storage.[1] SODIS is already applied in numerous developing countries.[2]:55 Educational pamphlets on the method are available in many languages,[3] each equivalent to the English-language version.[2]

    The water in those bottles might “taste funny” but saying it’s “undrinkable” is ridiculous.

    1. creech

      The AP report in today’s paper says that PR officials never planned for anything beyond a Class 1 hurricane. So. obviously it is Trump’s fault because his FEMA had seven and a half months to figure this out and demand corrective action! But, of course, Obama’s FEMA had eight years to figure it out and didn’t. Blaming Trump sounds fair to whom?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        This is what I don’t get.

        Blaming Trump for this is dumb. That’s pretty clear.

        BUT WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE TWEET LIKE THAT THIS MORNING? It doesn’t do him a damn bit of good. It doesn’t even make him look good. It’s demonstrably untrue. Just tweet out condolences on the anniversary and that’s it.

        1. kbolino

          He knows two things.

          How to shamelessly promote himself.

          How to rile other people up.

          Truth has an only incidental connection to both.

      2. invisible finger

        WTF? They’re saying, “We have all this surplus because the storm was worse than we thought.”

  49. The Late P Brooks

    “I don’t expect to ever change the mind of a committed socialist. But libertarians can’t expect to engage, much less persuade, anyone flirting with socialism if we simply invoke Stalin, the Great Leap Forward, or even Hugo Chavez every time socialism gets mentioned.”

    “To be sure, not all definitions of “freedom” are equal, but over all, it’s not fair to condemn the whole program because of one little slip-up.”

    1. Trolleric the Goth

      -1 Gen. Jack D. Ripper?

    2. That’s one step away from:

      “We just need the right people in charge.”

  50. Evan from Evansville

    Tundra and Suthenboy were talking about tigers in the Lost Friends post.

    I worked for a summer at the Exotic Feline Rescue Sanctuary in Center Point, IN. Did behavioral research and worked onsite with butchering and taking people on guides. About 55 lions, 60 tigers, a dozen leopards, a few cougars. (sigh…nyuck nyuck nyuck. )

    There was the bitch tiger ‘cleverly’ named Raja. I had to warn the guests about her—she quite enjoyed pissing on passerbys. Tiger piss is very thick and gelatinous. She could shoot it about 15 feet fairly accurately.

    One day I’m walking past her enclosure in the morning. I just felt something was wrong. Spider-sense. I turn around and Raja is about 10-15 feet behind from me (through a chainlink fence) and was in pounce position. We froze. I looked directly into her eyes and there was…a bit of a moment between us. I caught my breath and kept walking. I could feel her steps start immediately after I started again. Turned around and she was frozen again, wearing her “I am going to take you down and eat you” face.

    That was some scary shit. I didn’t need coffee that morning. It’s the opposite of Jaws (which *is* a perfect film). The eyes are so focused on you, unmoving, but they’re *so* alive. I’d happily give the inventor of chain-link fences a reach-around for his efforts. I will never forget that tiger’s face.

    1. Sensei

      I think big cats are amazing animals.

      But as the happy owner of two house cats I’ve never understood why anyone wants a big cat as a pet. They are predators. And you are prey.

      1. Mojeaux

        Cats are assholes, bless their hearts. I can’t quit them.

      2. I’m not a tiger, nor am I a tiger psychologist, but I can only imagine that “tame” tigers look at humans as strange fellow-animals that don’t pose a threat and provide a steady source of food. Kind of like pets that bring them gifts.

        1. Jarflax

          I think more likely they think of us as something like a turducken, food that brings them food, with food inside.

        2. Semi-Spartan Dad

          Sounds like Larry Niven’s Man-Kzin Wars.

    2. Cats (big or small) are nature’s perfect (land-based) killing machines. What you felt was the feeling of being prey.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Yes.

        It is not a comfortable feeling.

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Narrator: “This bridge is only wide enough for five of you at a time.”

    “When the cat is at the rathole, ten thousand mice dare not come out.”
    -Sun Tzu

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Try as they might, NPR can’t ignore the obvious.

    Even then, electric cars face another hurdle: our car culture.

    “The automobile is an emotional object,” says Mimi Sheller, professor of sociology at Drexler University. She says just look at the messaging we get in car ads.

    “There’s a long history of associations with masculinity and speed and power,” she says. “You could call it a kind of social capital.”

    Many ads for SUVs focus on families, highlighting safety, protectiveness and caring.

    “I think we are influenced in many ways by all those cultural suggestions that are around us,” Sheller says.

    “We buy the car for very different reasons than what we use the car for,” says Tal. “It’s an extension of our personality, in a way.”

    Today, demand for trucks and SUVS is up in the U.S. So, Sheller says the switch to a new technology, from gas to electric, might take a disruption of some kind, like higher gas prices.

    Up next- our desperate need for a carbon tax.

    1. Maybe, just maybe, it’s because electric cars suck donkey dick.

      1. trshmnstr

        This. Id happily switch to an electric car if it was as good as or better than an ICE car and a hybrid.

        1. ICE car

          So anti-immigrant.

    2. We have higher gas prices every summer that does f.a. to discourage people from driving their own cars.

  53. Enough About Palin

    “congrats to the Seattle(?) Storm”

    Congratulations to Sue Bird. I have only sent fan mail to one to one professional athlete, Sue Bird. Twice.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Uffda EAP. I thought you were one of us proud Minnesoda Lynx fans.

      Sue Bird couldn’t carry Lindsey Whalen’s jock strap sports bra.

      1. Enough About Palin

        It was over 15 years ago. And Bird did win a NCAA championship while at UConn. Maybe even several.

  54. Semi-Spartan Dad

    Key witness in casino fraud case found dead in creek
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/13/key-witness-in-casino-fraud-case-found-dead-in-creek.html

    Matthew Crane, 28, was found dead in Mill Creek, two miles from the Mohegan Sun Pocono casino in Plains Township, Pa. Crane had worked at the gambling center as a table dealer before alerting authorities in 2015 about a major scam taking place.

    The Luzerne County Coroner’s office conducted an autopsy on Monday and concluded Crane had fallen from high railroad tracks during a walk and drowned.

    “All we can say is that for some unknown reason he began walking from point A to his destination at point B,” Wilkes-Barre Cmdr. Joe Coffay said. “He chose to take the tracks and in the process fell into the water, causing him to drown.”

    I saw this one in the Sopranos, though the witnessed backed down before testifying in the show version. In the real life version, the local officials determined the key witness just happened to take a walk on on some deserted railroad tracks for some unknown reason, and then just happened to trip at the most inopportune spot, bashing his head open, and subsequently drowning.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It will always be a mystery why he did that.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        It’s like that time when a handcuffed suspect in the back of a police car shot himself in the back of the head. It’s a mystery.

    2. kbolino

      Don’t worry, the FBI is hard at work ensuring Russians can’t buy ads, which is far more important than looking into possibly corrupt local authorities.

  55. I know most of you would prefer a wet t-shirt contest, but we must keep our family friendly rating.

    http://archive.is/GOskv

    #4 lawdy, lawdy.

    1. Count Potato

      #13

  56. RE: Observatory evacuation.

    My guess is one of those pervy scientists was downloading kiddie porn.

    Or aliens.

    1. Worse, it turned out to be inappropriate film of alien larvae.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It gets a mite lonely and boring at those facilities.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Seems lousy.

        1. Semi-Spartan Dad

          These puns are really starting to tick me off.

          1. F. Stupidity Jr.

            I am gnat gonna weigh in on this one.

        2. Mojeaux

          Not enough nitpickers.

    1. Count Potato

      “8-21-18 | Why Worry? A Round-up of Big Tech’s Orwellian Moves In One Month Alone

      –Google sued for tracking users even when tracking feature is turned off
      –Big Tech companies meet to discuss coordinated control of news in upcoming election
      –Facebook censors conservative PragerU videos and shadow bans posts
      –Black conservatives ‘Diamond and Silk’ demonitized by YouTube
      –Apple, Facebook, Spotify, and YouTube coordinate ban of Alex Jones’ Infowars
      –Google to help Chinese communists censor search results
      –Facebook censors pro-Trump NYPost and Washington Times articles
      –Study: Google search results lean left”

      1. Raston Bot

        Shopify dropped DefDist, 1911 Builders, other firearms companies

  57. Raston Bot

    re: Google/DNC video

    1. Raston Bot

      ^speaking of unsteady hands

      that A/V guy must’ve had a strong tripod to keep the camera steady while fapping furiously during that Google/DNC sadfest. particularly when their CFO grabbed the mic and started sobbing.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You’re right, there’s not too much left to say.

  58. The Late P Brooks

    electric cars suck donkey dick.

    I drove my 25+ year old Honda to Indianapolis and back, not long ago. I was taking it easy, on the way home; I only drove 14 hours straight, to central South Dakota, and stopped for the night. Then I got up and drove another ten or so home.

    Get back to me when I can do that in an electric car, no matter whether it’s a Tesla or a Geely.

    1. Democratic Hitler

      Obviously you should rearrange your affairs so that such long trips are not necessary.

      And don’t think we don’t know what you were doing going to Indianapolis, which is in INDIANA.

      1. creech

        He forgot to mention that incident on the way home where the boat tipped over and all his Indiana purchases sunk to the bottom of a bottomless lake.

        1. Here’s your fine from the EPA.

  59. CPRM

    Video Sketch: Stop Making me defend Trump. These guys get it.

    1. Count Potato

      Indeed.

    2. CPRM

      I think this channel has a new sub, here’s one on Cultural Appropriation.

    3. MikeS

      That is totally me. Except for the voting for Hillary part. And the gay sex. And my name isn’t Gary…as far as you know.

      1. pan fried wylie

        “Mike S. Gary”

  60. Related to Facebook’s “fake news” nonsense.

    https://www.chicksonright.com/blog/2018/09/12/the-fb-censorship-army-is-in-attack-mode-just-in-time-for-midterms/

    Same as the dead tree outlets and alphabet soup networks, I’d have a lot more respect for these assholes if they stopped lying through their teeth about being “objective” and “non-partisan”. Just say you’re in the tank for the Dems.

    1. Count Potato

      The pictures on that page aren’t loading.

      1. kbolino

        It looks like they’re hosted on a domain or with a pattern that AdBlock doesn’t like. You have to turn it off to see them.