World War G – continued

WORLD WAR G…RESUME!

 

Truce time is done… resume combat in this open thread.  Time to go find some pizza. Which type, we will not say.

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481 responses to “World War G – continued”

  1. Rhywun

    Truce? Did I miss some drama!!??

    1. There was a Deep Dish Pizza post at mid-day…. you can imagine what that started.

      1. Rhywun

        I just saw the picture of the finished product. I’ll be back after the heaving.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Next Up!
          Rhywun, The Heavening!

          1. Rhywun

            Ha, I put the caps in upon re-reading my comment too. Someone with some writing talent could write the script.

      2. Not an Economist

        There were no survivors. Everybody who commented on that post is now a zombie.

        1. Everybody who commented on that post is now a zombie.

          Pfft, as if.

          I’m a ghast.

      3. Nephilium

        So this is what happens when I go away a while for a new job. You all go crazy, and start food wars. Meanwhile, I’m trying to stay up late enough to be able to reset my internal clock after the double fuckery of DST and going from Eastern to Central time within two weeks (then back to Eastern on Friday).

  2. Yusef drives a Kia

    PineApple
    Sausage
    Pepperoni
    Black Olives
    Onions
    Xtra Cheese
    Easy on the Sauce
    Thick crust Because Dentures,
    That’s my Pizza

  3. Waterfall Insurance

    It’s not deep dish but it’s a start http://therusticwillow.com/avocado-ranch-hawaiian-pizza/

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      That’s Gross!

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        Yeah I don’t share the same hate towards avocados as many here but no thanks not on a pizza.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          I love Avo, but I don’t think its right for pizza

          1. Troy

            I would try avacodo on a pizza. Especially if it came with Mexican ass sex.

        2. Rhywun

          I like avocado in sauce form with Mexican food. Any other use should be verboten.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Sliced on a Burger with Cheddar, Fuckin Rocks, Must Be Fresh!

    2. Suthenboy

      Avodcado? Shoot that person. Shoot them.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Ranch isn’t any better on a pizza

        1. RBS

          Ranch is disgusting.

        2. NoDakMat

          We have a pizza chain around here, Happy Joe’s, that makes a BLT pizza. Instaed of tomato sauce, there is a thin layer of mayonnaise under the toppings. I’ll grab a slice if its on the buffet, but I can’t imagine making a meal of just that. That’s a lot of mayo.

  4. CPRM

    Which side is Lobster Girl on?

  5. KibbledKristen

    OK, OK, I’ll post this in the living thread instead of the dead one! Sheesh!

    Luke Days Air Show (incl Blue Angels)

    1. dbleagle

      I went to Luke Days back in the 1960’s. They had the Thunderbirds, a low level flow overs by an F-111 both wing configurations. Plus I got to meet Eric Hartmann who was at Luke to check on the Luftwaffe student pilots.

  6. I’m still of the belief that deep-dish Pizza joints don’t have an open kitchen because they’re shoveling foetuses into those casserole dishes.

    Oh, and also that Pier One Imports is a money laundering operation.

    1. Banjos

      I’ve never in my life heard anyone say “yeah, I got it from Pier One Imports”. It’s the only logical explanation.

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        My wife worked near a Pier 1 it was like a pre gold ticket Wonka Factory, no one leaves or enters but trucks come and go.

      2. RBS

        My wife spent a bunch of money at Pier 1 over Christmas. For decorations that sit on a shelf above our front door that nobody will ever see.

    2. Mustang

      My mom loves Pier One, which means I avoid it like the plague. If she’s laundering money then I want a cut.

    3. Not Adahn

      There was an Italian restaurant just off of campus, on some extremely expensive real estate, that never had any customers…

      1. Nephilium

        Best money laundering location that I ever knew about was a coffee shop that operated in Downtown Cleveland. Weekends, they were open until 4:00 AM (bars need to close in Ohio at 2:00 AM). The house coffee? Jamaican Blue Mountain. Free refills too. They even sold the beans to go at $15 a pound (back in the late 90’s).

      2. wdalasio

        Funny story I’ve heard but can’t verify.

        Apparently, at one time, it was common knowledge in New York that the best places to get an Italian dinner were mob fronts. So much to the point that when discussing an Italian restaurant, people would ask which family the restaurant was with more than which region of Italy the food was from.

        It makes sense, really. If you’re running a money laundering operation, it would strike me that your major interest would be preserving the appearance of maintaining a brisk business, rather than actually turning a profit. You’re going to do what you need to to get bodies in the door. And if your mobster and his crew are regularly hanging out there, they’re going to be pretty finicky on their Italian food.

  7. KibbledKristen
    1. CPRM

      There’s the future of green energy, probably more efficient too.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Brown energy.

      2. wdalasio

        So, who was filming the power plant to my orphan uranium mine?!

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      That Was Cool!

    3. Rhywun

      Fifty state legislatures are crafting bans as we speak.

      1. MikeS

        Ban Mexican children?

    4. Gustave Lytton

      That looks only slightly more dangerous than my own childhood playground equipment. I look at current schools and it looks like cheap plastic equipment that maybe kids are allowed to touch but not climb or use. If their rubber protective suits allow it.

      1. westernsloper

        Don’t forget the protective recycled tire ground covering mat.

        1. Waterfall Insurance

          Or the sheet of heated metal posing as a slide.

        2. pistoffnick

          Hah! Our kids school trucked out the sand (at great cost) from the playground, then trucked in chopped up recycled tires. Some snowflake complained to the school board so they trucked out the chopped up recycled tires (at great cost) and put in wood chips. I’m waiting for those to be deemed unsafe as soon as some snowflake gets a splinter.

      2. westernsloper

        Also, I think this may be contributing to the pussification of society. Seeing a classmate get a compound fracture during recess or gym class is a learning experience.

        1. KibbledKristen

          Or that one time this kid decided to take a hot shower after a heavy summer workout just to see what would happen.

          Ambulance happened.

          1. Did they survive?

          2. KibbledKristen

            Pretty sure he was back in school the next day

          3. Ah, okay, so no guilt at all in calling him a dumbass.

        2. Drake

          I broke 2 bones trying to do a running dismount of a swing in 4th grade during recess.

  8. Meh, deep dish, thin crust it’s all pizza, you want a fight? In think HOA are the Bees Knees , and that property taxes are the only legitimate taxes.

    1. It’s not all Pizza. Some is Pizza and some is deep dish.

      It’s ok to callmsomething what it is as opposed to what people think it is. That’s why Bruce Jenner is still a dude. And that’s why deep dish isn’t pizza.

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        Stuff a deep dish full of pizza rolls and pizza bagels, it should embrace what it is a pie filled with thing pretending to be pizza.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        I like to do a pulled Beef Sandwich with Kings Hawaiian Hamburger buns, but if they are out I use Sara Lee “Sandwich buns”, other than a larger Diameter, there is no difference between them and regular Hamburger buns, so.
        At What point did they become “sandwich” buns?
        At what point does Pizza become Deep dish?
        At what point does tater tot Casserole Become Hot dish?
        When is a beer too hoppy?
        Inquiring minds want to know…….

        1. Sandwich vs hamburger is probably a marketing decision to make them more marketable. Or the maker is a big Ayn Rand fan.

          Tater tot casserole never becomes hot dish.

          A beer is too hoppy at 78 IBU.

          THAT WAS EASY!

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Oh yea?, when does Crunchy PB become Creamy?
            how ‘Bout that Smart guy?
            😉

          2. Gustave Lytton

            When chunks of PB can no longer get stuck in your teeth. Next!

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            It’s like Grape nuts, why eat Dirt?

          4. MikeS

            When it comes back out.

          5. NoDakMat

            Tator Tot Hotdish isn’t hotdish? I mean, its right there in the name. Hotdish.

          6. robc

            You clearly failed to consider the ibu/in ratio. How choppy a beer is depends on the initial gravity as much as the ibu. 78 is high for a 5% pale ale, but low for a 9% double ipa.

            90 minute is my primary example. It is 90 ibu but insanely well balanced.

          7. robc

            Ibu/gu

        2. MikeS

          Tater tot casserole never becomes hot dish.

          Triggered!!!!!11!!11eleven!!

        3. Homple

          Tater Tot casserole becomes hot dish in Minnesota or North Dakota.

          1. MikeS

            Where the smart people are.

        4. At What point did they become “sandwich” buns?

          When ENB started using them.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Kings Hawaiian does rule though

          2. westernsloper

            Pulled pork on kings Hawaiian is awesome. I don’t do it often but I crave it at times.

  9. Mustang

    Some of the best pizza I ever had was a monstrous deep dish that would deliver it to the bar I worked at. They used a brick oven to cook it and somehow the crust was always crunchy and delicious.

    And yes, it was pizza.

    Come at me bro.

    But not like that you dirty hookers.

    1. westernsloper

      That is a waste of a brick oven. You can cook deep dish in anything that will get to a moderately hot temp. I bet the trunk of an old Camry in Phoenix during the summer would work. That sounds like an experiment for MS. What beer goes good with Camry trunk cooked deep dish?

      1. What’s the average cooking temperature of the Camry trunk?

  10. Jarritos vs Topos Sabores vs Fanta

    Go!

    1. Waterfall Insurance

      Jarritos or sidral mundet

    2. Fanta is the white people of 3rd world sodas

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        Fanta got kicked out of international soda school for bullying Dr. Brown.

      2. Jarritos is so freaking good. I just polished off a 1.5L of lime I got late yesterday.

        1. I don’t often drink jarritos. But when I do, it’s tamarino.

          1. Waterfall Insurance

            When I can find them I like the grapefruit and hibiscus.

          2. If I’m in the mood for soda, I might pick up Goya Champagne, the Champagne of sodas.

          3. **Cola Champagne

          4. Waterfall Insurance

            That’s good too. That’s become more common than Inca cola lately.

          5. And here I was thinking of Bumblebee Man advertising Goya Champagne.

          6. Rhywun

            I hate the new XX dude.

          7. Him or the Trivago Uncle? Fight!

          8. Rhywun

            That guy is just creepy af.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Euro Fanta or Americas Fanta?

      1. Americas.

        Euro sodas are extra-fluoridated to make their citizens more docile. It’s true.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Ugh. The Euro version is better. Closer to the original Nazi recipe perhaps.

          Japanese Grape Fanta is like crack though.

    4. A Leap at the Wheel

      Fanta. How is this even a question?

    5. MikeS

      I have no idea what the hell any of those are.

      And stay of my homogeneous lawn!

  11. Tonio

    Finally, factionalism and infighting! Because we all know it wouldn’t be politics without purity tests and denouncements.

    I, for one, would like to see the cast iron skillet people thrown out of the Vortex so that we, the true pizzaterians may worship at the stainless steel maw of the mighty Blodgett what with its stone deck and fast recovery time.

    1. westernsloper

      Amen to that. Cast iron is only good for searing things and making corn bread. If a pizza aint decked it aint pizza. Even some of us hillbillys know that.

    2. I made a chorizo and onion frittata in my cast iron skillet this morning, it was the first one I’ve made that didn’t stick one bit, five years of careful curing and I got a non stick pan that’ll put ’em all to shame.

      1. Tonio

        Yo, I love my cast iron cookware, but I don’t use it for pizza.

    3. Hey remember the 90s? Theme song for tonight.

      1. Rhywun

        Hey remember the 90s?

        I do, but I remember it differently.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        No, just NO!

    4. Just Say’n

      Finally someone making some sense.

  12. Mustang

    Deep dish pizza is just thicc pizza. I do love some thicc.

  13. westernsloper

    This was my attempted contribution to the war but it could have been much better. I was really hungover this morning.

    1. It’s pronounced Ha-vai-‘i, philistines.

      1. Actually, it’s pronounced “Sandwich Islands”.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          +1 Cooked Cook

  14. quincy

    I’ve eaten pizza with kale on it.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Arugula is pretty good on top.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        You guy are Fags, what next Romaine lettuce?

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          You do not cook lettuce.

          Trust me. I’ve tried.

          1. Romaine lettuce works well cooked briefly in Chinese style hot pot.

        2. Number.6

          SWMBO makes a white pizza with wilted arugula.

          It’s a fucking abomination. I drink a beer and have cheese and crackers when that shit comes out of the oven

  15. A Leap at the Wheel

    Working 12 hours today: Booo
    BigNFaceless Intnl. buys me dinner for working late: Yay
    Daily Macros are Fucked because I went to lunch with a friend: Boo (need All the Protein!!!!11! but no calories)
    But sushi place delivers: Yay
    16 piece sashimi platter has 8 pieces of macarel: Booo
    But I swear the 3 pieces of fatty tuna are like 50% melted butter: yay.

    Ok, back to work.

    1. egould310

      ?

  16. Mustang

    I am going to make my first attempt at homemade deep dish because of you all. Probably this weekend. I’ll make sure I take pics of the monstrosity if it turns out any good.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      It’s going to be good,whatever it looks like, Pizza ain’t hard, Enjoy! and post them pics

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      Deep dish is like sex. Even if its bad, its good.

      And will also make you chlamydia.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I’m already a Newt, why would I want to be a Chlamydia?

      2. Mustang

        I don’t want to be chlamydia.

  17. Brasidas

    *Sharpens Bowie knife*

    Worst pizza I’ve had was bacon with a pesto sauce. Damn thing had an inch of oil and fat on it.

    *Chambers 1911*

    Best pizza I’ve had was a garlic and olive oil base with pepperoni and honey.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Honey? erm…. I guess if Pineapple is OK, which it is…..

    2. Mustang

      That does sound awful.

    3. Lachowsky

              Who motherfuckin hoo!!

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        ?

      2. MikeS

        Oil pressure looks kind low for 5000 rpm. Better check it.

  18. At a bare minimum, a pizza has to be able to be cooked on a flat surface without sides, be it a stone or a proper sheet pan. This is necessary, but not sufficient.

    Deep dish casserole might be perfectly fine food, but it should stop trying to claim a title to which it is not eligable.

    1. straffinrun

      How about an Asian girl’s ass?

      1. MikeS

        Yes please. Could I have two?

    2. Mustang

      Pizza with a crust that goes up the side of a pan too scary? Should we ban assault pizza?

      1. Who said anything about scary? I’m stating criteria by which the typology is defined.

        The second is that, when cooked, you should be able to fold the crust. If properly cut, you should be required to fold the slice to eat it.

        Application of a fork is heretical.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          FORK? What is this mythical pizza eating invention?

          1. What is it? It is HERESY! I just said that.

        2. Mustang

          Since deep dish pizza is amazing, you must have an irrational fear of it. It’s the only explanation.

          I can agree about the fork thing, which is why a crispy outer crust on a deep dish is key.

          1. You did not read my statement.

            There is a distinction between being fine to eat and being pizza.

          2. Mustang

            Merriam Wevster defines it as a dish made typically of flattened bread dough spread with a savory mixture usually including tomatoes and cheese and often other toppings and baked — called also pizza pie.

            Weird. Pie is baked in something with sides and has a crust that goes up the sides. Surely if pizza pie is also acceptable, then having a flat surface on which to cook it is not a requirement.

          3. Mirriam Webster also gets the Definition of “Feminism” wrong. So I don’t really trust their judgement when it comes to culinary doctrines.

          4. Mustang

            So we just make up our own definitions then? Sounds social justice-y. Are you a pizza justice warrior?

          5. MikeS

            Deep dish casserole is amazing. It’s just not pizza.

          6. Yusef drives a Kia

            If you can hold the crust and the rest starts flopping, it’s good

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Does it taste Good? Then Who cares what you call it, I know we all jus funnin

    3. Just Say’n

      I hear Nick Gillespie hates deep dish pizza too. Your fellow pizza denier

  19. Yusef drives a Kia

    OMM: NOW! the Spring offensive has Begun! i need each and every one of You to report to the Nearest Cell leader for the Vest Dispersal, Allah Willing, We shall Decimate the Infidel!
    Yusef: Umm, i think you’re posting to the wrong Website,
    OMM: Nonsense I’m… oh Shit

  20. MikeS

    Looking for some advice. I’ll try and keep it short to not bore everyone.

    On Thursday, 10 minutes after leaving work (just finished a 10 hour shift), I was called and told that we were out of some purchased parts and we needed to make them in house. If we didn’t, we would shut a customer’s line down and we’d be in deep shit. Since I am the only person who can program the machine they are made on, I was very popular.

    So like a good company man, back in I went. I worked my ass off trying to get these parts made. I ended up going to sleep at my desk about 1:30 am and getting back up when others started showing up at 4:45. Got back at it and ended up having success (and going home) about 9:30 am Friday. I had arrived at 6:15 am Thursday.

    My question: How much “thanks” should I expect from my employer? I got a couple emails right away thanking me for coming back in and working on it. And this morning the VP came in a shook my hand. Then I looked at my time card today, and my boss punched me out for 2 hours because I told him that I slept for a few hours.

    I had half expected a very big thank you and maybe someone buying me lunch or a gift card or something like that. I certainly didn’t expect to get docked time for working so late that I had to sleep at my desk. Am I expecting too much? They paid me for my time. They did what they are supposed to. I guess if I were the boss, I’d do a hell of a lot more. Is that just me?

    1. Rhywun

      It’s just you.

      1. MikeS

        *narrows gaze*

        1. Rhywun

          Well… gut reaction. I’m reasonably happy after 19 years at my current place. I could be paid more… but the bennies and time off are good plus I’m way too lazy at this point to be looking. IOW… ignore me. 🙂

          1. MikeS

            That’s great that you’re on 19 years and happy. Hopefully you never have to pull an all-nighter. 😉

          2. Rhywun

            I’ve done plenty of all-nighters. I’m in IT and on salary – it goes with the territory. But… on balance… looking for greener pastures just isn’t on my radar. I’ve had trying times… believe me… but I got past them.

          3. MikeS

            Sorry to assume you hadn’t. And my condolences for being salary. I know it has it’s perks, but at least where I work, they seem to get taken advantage of. Yeah, surprising, huh?

          4. Rhywun

            Enh, I can’t say I’ve ever really felt taken advantage of. If I pull an all-nighter, it’s nothing if I show up late or not at all (or work from home) the next day. Maybe I’m lucky.

            There was a period when I had an evil boss – in fact I quit because of him – but at the last second I stayed on, he left shortly later, and now we all tell stories about what an asshole he was.

          5. The “perk” of being salaried at the state is that you are no longer eligable for overtime or comp time, but you still have to charge leave if you’re below hours expected.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      It’s not just you, but that’s life, you chose the job, and if you didn’t want to work you certainly could have spoken up, but in the back of your mind, you wish to retain extra value, you did in the long run, Carry on.

    3. straffinrun

      Yes, they should’ve at least bought you lunch or something. You did the right thing and you learned what they will do in response. Just don’t give up and start mailing it in at work because of it. Keep doing what you’re doing and if you decide to leave, go for it with your head held high.

      1. MikeS

        Thanks. I won’t be mailing it it, but like you (and others) said, now I really know how management values they people that actually make the product. It’s up to me to choose to act -or not- on that knowledge.

    4. Sounds like a wash situation. You got some good recognition. On the other hand, Your boss is a douche if you got docked for pulling an all nighter. If I was your boss , I’d probably leave the couple extra hours. Did you book a shitload of OT?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        That’s the one thing I would NEVER forget, that’s a cheap shot right there

        1. Rhywun

          Fair enough. I don’t get paid by the hour so I hadn’t considered that.

      2. MikeS

        That’s another shitty part; I had taken Tuesday off for my birthday, so it was mostly making up time and saving vacation. Any other week and I would have made the equivalent of 5 more hours of pay.

        1. What straff said above.

    5. Homple

      What an asshole. Free dinner, at least. A good one.

    6. Mustang

      Sounds like you saved them a huge chunk of money, possibly even helped maintain some future customers because you helped the company keep it’s reputation. Seems to me that they should pay you those hours because if you hadn’t slept and something went wrong because of it, they’d be totally fucked. If they expect you to stay up that long, then that’s also messed up. Either way, you basically worked that whole time because if you hadn’t caught a nap the results could have been disastrous.

    7. trshmnstr

      I’d say that it depends on company culture. Some places I’ve worked will give something like Amazon gift cards for going above and beyond. At my current job, it wouldn’t get recognized until bonuses were issued (if then)

      1. Drake

        My company does “recognition points” you can use in a pretty decent catalog. I have enough for some Bose QuietComfort 35 headphones. A few more and I could get a Playstation 4. Kinda of waiting to see how much traveling I’ll be doing this year.

        1. Drake

          I have to remind myself to use all my points as a manager on people before the end of the quarter.

        2. The state just points and laughs at you for being suckered into treating their problem as your emergency. The “no recognition ever” was to prevent managers from corruptly rewarding favorites.

          It comes as no surprise that there’s little dedication beyond what is contractually obligated.

    8. Wow, Fuck that, you worked around the clock to fix a problem and they dock you for some down time? You are expecting too little if anything. Slap me on the back, pay me for more time than I was there, and buy my diner for a week. Just getting assholes to show up for is work hard enough, if your bosses don’t appreciate your sacrifice then fuck them, there’s got to be people out there that will.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        When I have a Restaurant freezer down, I have to fix it, no matter when, or where, so I often work late nights and Weekends, But I bill the Fuck out of it, so no matter what happens, i get paid for my trouble. When I was an Hourly guy with Supervisor Responsibilities, I would open the job for my Crews after hours to load a job, Clock in and they would still have to buy me Beer for opening up the Shop, I made sure i was Compensated

    9. I’d chalk it up too being the guy who exceeds expectations. Your reward may not have come last week, but it will come when you get hired away for being the best or you get promoted to a position where you’re utilizing all of your skill.

      Or neither of those things will happen and you’ll still exceed expectations and get paid for the work you do. Either way, you’re being treated fairly (even if your extra effort isn’t recognized beyond the normal means of compensation).

      1. MikeS

        Yeah, they did what they were supposed to do. Hell, I slept for a little over 3 hours and “only” got docked for 2. So technically, they did give me something extra.

      2. Having said that, if that happened to me, I’d probably have gone ballistic and would never give them a minute’s extra effort and would start looking to work for someone else immediately.

        But I can be short-sighted, I suppose. And I’ve worked for a salary for so long, I don’t really even know what a time clock is anymore. Tradesmen and professionals who bill or get paid by the hour are used to a valuation of their labor being calculated by different metrics than what salaried people are.

        1. MikeS

          Having said that, if that happened to me, I’d probably have gone ballistic and would never give them a minute’s extra effort and would start looking to work for someone else immediately.

          I am similar. The ballistic part was very close to the surface. I actually have an email sitting in my Drafts folder telling my boss basically that I feel like I was slighted. After a “time out” and getting reactions from all you guys, I am pretty sure it will go into the Deleted folder. But I will also be checking out the classifieds.

          Also, for as long as I am here, there will not be any more sleeping at my desk. That’s for damn sure.

          1. Never e-mail mad.

            I’m horrible with people, but that is one thing I have learned to certainty.

          2. MikeS

            Yeah. I usually stop myself, but not always. This time, with all your help, I avoided making more trouble for myself.

          3. Number.6

            This is a bit of a wake-up call. What you do have as a result is a genuine, justifiable grouse if they try and jerk you around in future. Next time something like this happens, watch carefully and see if they pro-actively approach you to help. That’s your cue to make your point about your superior work ethic and how you got no recognition for it.

            Personally, I consider that you did gain from this, albeit in non-monetary ways.

            You’ve learned a lesson – going beyond the call of duty gets you no significant brownie points. Exploit you once, shame on them. Exploit you twice – shame on you.

          4. MikeS

            Thanks, 6. Your conclusion is spot on. Spot on. That is the knowledge I am moving forward with. There will be no second time.

    10. So, my brother in law used to find himself in similar situations at his old job. Lots of times when he went above and beyond to pull management’s bacon out of the fire because management was a flaky dude who was great with people and shitty with running a business. He’d get plenty of thanks, no raises, and called every time something went to shit. He left for another job where he works hard and is paid accordingly.

      I guess my answer is a question: How much thanks do you need to feel appreciated? It sounds like you went well above and beyond, and I would think a smart or at least a decent boss would at a minimum not dock you for the nap time, which to my mind is petty and shortsighted. If that’s how they roll, I’d seriously reconsider staying unless everything else about the job is fantastic. For my part, my pride couldn’t suffer it.

      1. MikeS

        My pride is suffering a bit. There are very few people here that I can think of who would have done it. And, considering I am literally the only person who can program the lathe, they are damn lucky I did do it.

        I don’t know…It’s a decent place to work overall, but this episode will definitely not be forgotten. It also kind of woke me up to what my boss thinks of me.

        1. straffinrun

          Don’t know if you’re married, but you’re going through what every married dude in the world goes through.

          1. MikeS

            I am married. And even though I knew I wasn’t the only one who’s gone though something like this, it’s feels better to hear it from all you guys.

            Also, just for clarification: when I said “here” in my reply to Bill just above this, I meant my work, not Glibs.

        2. Well, on the one hand, you’ve made a reputation for yourself as a reliable guy who will fix the company’s fuck-ups, which gives you security. On the other hand, you’ve established yourself as the guy who will fix the company’s fuck-ups, so now they’ve got a guy who will do that, and know it. .

          I had a situation at my job about a year ago that absolutely infuriated me. I won’t get too far into it, but I felt like somebody stabbed me in the back but wasn’t man enough to fess up, and I couldn’t figure out who for certain. It didn’t jeopardize my employment, but it definitely made me feel like I was unappreciated and like I’d placed too much trust in the people I work for. It was the moment when I realized, “Oh, just because my boss acts like a friend doesn’t mean I can trust him any more than a bum in the street.”

          I went through a job hunt for a while and never found anything that quite matched what I get where I am. What I decided to do was to take full advantage of all the perqs I have here, put in enough effort to be able to respect myself and what I create, and constantly keep in mind that I’m basically a mercenary. I’m sad about that because I want to be able to believe in what I do and who I work for, but it’s sometimes a job is just a job.

          1. I have a bizarre reputation for competance and getting shit done.

            I say bizarre because I am the laziest son of a bitch I know. But I also get bored at work, so when they drop a task on my desk of say “Document the installation, patching and configuration of OHS for your environment”, while braindead simple as a task I tackle with with a zeal that ends up with a finished document out to the group at the end of the day for everyone else to follow.

            Of course the measures are relative. There are people who will give you a deer in the headlights look when given a similar task, and others whose deliverables will be three days late and a rambling confused mess that wanders over unrelated, irrelevent content. So maybe the reputation isn’t as bizarre as it strikes me at times.

            Won’t help me get promoted, but it keeps me from being bored.

          2. MikeS

            but it keeps me from being bored.

            That’s actually worth quite a bit.

          3. Nephilium

            So, like most successful IT people, Clever and Lazy.

          4. KibbledKristen

            I’m terrified that you are literally the male version of me at work. I’m fucking lazy as hell, but I learn quickly and can operate autonomously from the get-go. Employers love it. It keeps me in the trenches, but management ain’t for me anyway.

          5. I’m almost at top of grade – if I want to make more money, I have to move into management sooner or later (there’s only one more technical title above where I am now, and that’s usually treated as the first management teir)

          6. Rhywun

            management ain’t for me anyway

            Oh me neither. I see the BS my boss deals with and I want none of that.

          7. I’ve been plagued with a self-discipline issue since I was a child. I excel in areas where I’m both interested and where I feel challenged. So, I’m fortunate where I am to generally have large projects that require me to learn new things and figure out a lot of new processes and a minimum of drudgery. That alone is a strong argument to stay where I am. Part of my interest in moving on stemmed from a lack of new work, but as that’s changed I don’t feel the urge to move on as strongly as I did.

            That and having bills to pay and a family, of course. It’s difficult to be a prima donna when you’ve got a child and a mortgage.

          8. Number.6

            The reality of it is that it doesn’t matter if you are lazy in many jobs. Your value lies in being able to pull a rabbit out of your hat when a rabbit is needed.

            As long as you’re not on a production line, most ‘office careers’ are 95% mundane plow-thru-it bullshit that rarely taxes the individual, but what differentiates you from those mewling lumpenproles is the other 5% of your time when you can make a boss feel good about you in whatever way they appreciate, whether you just deliver a result that is highly valued, or deliver an image boost to the boss.

          9. MikeS

            “Oh, just because my boss acts like a friend doesn’t mean I can trust him any more than a bum in the street.”

            I am fast approaching the feeling you have. As a matter of fact, this episode probably puts me in the same boat as you. I will look around, but I’m not holding out hope as I am paid very well, and there aren’t a lot of openings in this area for my skill-set. But this was an eye opening experience. And I like your description; mercenary. That’s what I am.

          10. There’s a lot to be said for having a job where you have stable expectations of yourself and stability. It’s not fun or sexy, but it’s a hell of a lot better than worrying about whether you can have electricity and a home at the same time. I have a hard time not taking the politics personally, but I’ve started looking at it as a situation where that’s what I’m really being paid to deal with.

      2. Nephilium

        ^This^

        Are you still happy at the job? Or are you now considering this story for an interview when you get asked about a time you overcame adversity and saved the company a lot of money?

        1. MikeS

          The later.

          I know I’ll calm down over the next few days, but I will be looking around a little more, and this won’t be forgotten. I don’t hate my job, but at this point, I certainly don’t like it as much as I used to.

          1. Nephilium

            There’s a reason I made a jump to a new job. Although what I’m hearing from some of the other employees is that I should treat this job more as a resume builder, and be ready to jump in 2-3 years.

          2. I’m quickly learning that web development is not a career you want to get into if you want to both develop professionally and stay with a single organization for a long time. You get one or the other, but not both, it seems.

          3. Nephilium

            I’m in the VOIP world. I kind of fell into it by accident, started at a company as a regular helpdesk person, then they realized I knew databases. From there, it became me being able to throw together reports, and then start working on the old Avaya phone system. Now, I’ve got a strong understanding of three different ACD environments, and everyone’s going with the one that’s the absolute worst to work with (Hello Cisco!). I’ve been at the job for just over a week now, and still don’t have access to any of their systems. I guess that comes next week…

          4. I started out as a sysadmin. I’m good at sysadmin work.

            Then the PeopleSoft admins started leaving because they couldn’t get promoted in-agency. So they rolled PSAdmin into my group. I swore the one thing I didn’t want to get stuck doing was PeopleSoft.

            Then we got consolidated into the statewide IT agency. Sysadmin work was forcibly moved to DataCenter hosting, leaving me with application support.

            Now most of what I do is peoplesoft.

            I hate peoplesoft.

          5. I’ve got a very good friend who opted to take on some .NET dev tasks as part of a potential lateral move. Funding and organization changed, but nobody forgot that he volunteered, so now he does both regular back-end development and .NET junk, which he hates.

            Could be worse. Could be Sharepoint.

          6. Rhywun

            Ha, I remember getting stuck with a Sharepoint installation once. Long after our Sharepoint developer left. Stack Exchange is your friend.

          7. Oh man. Sharepoint is turrible. Luckily my most direct experience with it was helping to do a UX/UI consult on what the feds wanted to do with it at our place. It was hilarious, because we’d come up with these recommendations and the contractors were basically like, “…we can’t do that. What if we changed the background image?” “We’re talking about the menu structure. Like it doesn’t make any sense.” “Yeah…but our developer says he can’t do anything about that. What about making this cyan?”

    11. westernsloper

      How much “thanks” should I expect from my employer?

      If there isn’t a strippers and blow party with an open bar I would kick the manager in the nuts and quit. I am not really good at giving advice though so it may just be a live and learn incident.

      1. MikeS

        Will you be my boss?

    12. Pope Jimbo

      Mike, I’m sorry to hear about that. I think you should watch the fine documentary Office Space to learn how to properly deal with this.

      I know exactly how you feel. I have had shit like that happen a few times in my career. Coworkers find out that you give a shit about your job and your reputation and take advantage of it.

      The best revenge is to live well. Find a new place that values you and leave. Let them know why you felt slighted in the exit interview.

      1. MikeS

        You know, the fucking printer does really piss me off.

        Seriously, thanks for the advice. Dully noted.

        Skol!

    13. MikeS

      I just want to say thanks to everyone who replied. You all talked me off the rhetorical ledge.

      I’ll get all sappy for a moment and say that there is a damn good group of people here. From small problems like mine, to the bigger problems other Glibs have posted about, this place is full of thoughtful, kind, and helpful people. It’s almost like libertarians are capable of empathy.

      Ha-ha. Naw, that’s crazy talk.

  21. quincy

    I associate pineapple in food with East German Communism.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      I knew you were a Fag! Only East Germans would say that, they probably don’t know what a pineapple looks like,
      /Have some Kale……..

    2. Rhywun

      Explain.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Well, once upon a time these People called Germans were very Bad, so the Soviets had to spank them so they would behave, which was fine until they ran out of Babysitting Money, then came Rammstein!
        /WWII history in 10 seconds

        1. Rhywun

          I thought he was saying pineapples are the Trabi of fruits but that’s impossible because pineapples are amazing.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Yes they are..

          2. Drake

            I put them on my tacos sometimes. And I won’t reject a pizza with them either.

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            Hmm, never thought of that, will try, Thanks!

      2. quincy

        I visited East Germany in the ’80s. Pineapple seems to be everywhere on the menus of the open-to-Westerners Hotel’s restaurants. “We slather everything with pineapple from Cuba— look at our success!— but don’t talk about the fact that our TV’s are made of cardboard.”

        1. “We were required to buy the pineapple so Castro had something to export – now eat it, because we’re out of other food.”

          1. quincy

            But the proletariat didn’t get to eat it, I did.

          2. What were you doing in East Germany?

            *narrows gaze*

          3. quincy

            Visiting my grandfather’s hometown.

        2. Rhywun

          Ahh. I too visited East Germany in the 80’s but I don’t remember any pineapple. We knew the restaurant owner & he closed the restaurant and gave us all an amazing dinner. Typical meat and potatoes fare.

          1. quincy

            Well, I guess I went to a better class of communistically alimentary establishments than you did. #ClasslessHipster

  22. straffinrun

    Ketchup on saltines with sliced pimento loaf. Of course you have to pick out those black things first.

    1. You’ve been in Japan too long.

    2. +1 , Thousand Island dressing prawns pizza with hotdog slices

    3. Mustang

      That’s disgusting.

    4. MikeS

      Picking out the black olives was the only part of that that made any sense.

  23. ChipsnSalsa

    braunschweiger is delicious. Who is with me?

    1. Rhywun

      Me.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      Me

    3. Yusef drives a Kia

      On Rye with Mustard and Fresh Onion

      1. Hahaha! Jinx! I think I was the only kid who actually enjoyed stuff like rye bread and liver thanks to my grandfather.

    4. ::raises hand and waves it violently so everyone notices::

    5. Oh, man, totally with you. My grandfather used to make braunschweiger and mustard on rye sandwiches when I was a kid. Irish out of Philly, but ate like a German Jew. Almost certainly the better choice in terms of ethnic cuisines.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        See, we can Agree on lots of things!

        1. I love this country! We get the best of everything!

    6. Never had it.

      *looks it up*

      Probably good.

      1. straffinrun

        How about Eva Braunsweiger? Tastes best hot from the oven.

    7. Now, the real question is…braunschweiger or liverwurst?

      1. Rhywun

        Braunschweiger is smoked and contains bacon. Does that answer your question?

        1. So, what you’re saying is, why fly coach when you’ve got a free upgrade to first class?

        2. Timeloose

          There are things that the Amish in PA are great at. Meats, chips, and the desserts, are great.

          1. They come down our neck of the woods on the weekends to sell us bacon and hot dogs wrapped in pretzel dough, for which we are thankful. Also, I note with interest that several of the young Amish ladies look like they were at the club last night and just showed up in time to put the wimple on.

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            Mexican cheaters!!!!

    8. Homple

      Smoked Leberwurst on dark rye bread with Bautzner mustard. Slice of Spreewälder pickle on the side.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Onions, don’t forget Onions…..

  24. Drake

    Ed Butowsky Sits Down With Gateway Pundit for First Interview After Being Sued by Family in Seth Rich Murder Mystery

    Wow. Not much doubt about what happened and why.

    In a follow up after the video interview, Butowsky told GWP that an FBI source showed him a receipt for a $56 hard drive that he says Rich used to transport files from the DNC server to his laptop before loading them into a DropBox account.

    A few days after his initial phone call with the Rich family, Butowsky says that he was speaking to a friend from DC and asked if he may know anyone familiar with the Rich case. The friend told him that he did know someone with extensive knowledge about the murder — Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh.

    Two days later, Butowsky and Hersh were on the phone discussing the case.

    Butowsky explained that Hersh was speaking so quickly that he recorded the call because he could not take notes fast enough. He promptly forwarded the recording to the Rich family due to the detailed, and shocking, claims that the journalist was making.

    In the audio recording, Hersh states that Rich had contacted WikiLeaks with sample emails prior to the leak. He cited an FBI document that he was privy to as proof for his claim.

    “What the report says is that some time in late Spring… he makes contact with WikiLeaks, that’s in his computer,” Hersh says in the recording. “Anyway, they found what he had done is that he had submitted a series of documents — of emails, of juicy emails, from the DNC.”

    1. westernsloper

      So what you are saying is Seth Rich was Russian.

    2. Urthona

      It’s a cool conspiracy theory, but there’s no way anyone connected to the Clintons could be that competent.

  25. Timeloose

    Here is my first shot in the great the pizza war of 2018.
    Behold the Old Forge style pizza.
    Thick crust like a Sicilian, but light and airy, cheese blend of mozzarella, provolone, and sometimes cheddar. Baked in a olive oil greased pan and with a sweet onion sauce.

    My favorite is topped with chili flakes, anchovy paste, and olive oil.

    We are also awash in great ny style pizza, Pizza Hut and dominos are few and far between.

    https://slice.seriouseats.com/2013/08/old-forge-pennsylvania-pizza.html

    Enjoy or hate.

    1. Interesting…I’m skeptical of Pennsylvania cuisine, to be quite honest, but that actually sounds right up my alley. That probably goes well with cured meats.

      1. Rhywun

        Pennsylvania is the nexus of potato chips. They must be doing something right.

        1. I mean, I’ll stipulate Utz, but everything else I’ve eaten in Pennsylvania tasted like it came out of a microwave or a cardboard tube. Stunning beer, but depressing food.

      2. Timeloose

        The town is all Italian American, so it’s not some Amish abomination. I admit it’s not my favorite type of pizza, but it’s different and good.

        I’ve even found a few places to get Italian potato pie. Prosciutto, mashed or baked potato’s, roasmary, and red onion. It’s a carb bomb but good.

        1. Nephilium

          Amish abomination? Have you had Amish cooking? It’s so delicious, and terrible for you at the same time!

          1. Timeloose

            I’m speaking of thier pizza attempts. Pie crust with way too much meat on top.

          2. Trigger Hippie

            This doesn’t compute.

            /carnivore

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            THIS!

      3. Nephilium

        Have you had the strangeness that is Taylor Ham?

        1. I have tried it.

          I don’t get the strong emotions on both sides it elicits.

          1. Nephilium

            After hearing a coworker talk about talking a trunk of pork roll back home for him and his wife, I had to try it. It just tasted like a sad Canadian Bacon. And I’ve had beer made with scrapple.

          2. Rhywun

            It’s only decent application is in the “Jersey Classic”, i.e. in a roll with cheese and eggs.

          3. Yeah, I don’t get it. I mean, scrapple is a distinct thing. It seems like Taylor Ham is pork roll is Canadian bacon. Maybe this is like how I don’t really get colors past the 32 crayon box or think there are pretty much two kinds of red and white wine (dry and sweet).

          4. Timeloose

            Gator ham and eggs on a long roll is amazing. Also Taylor ham in a burger.

          5. Timeloose

            Gator ham? Thanks auto correct. Taylor ham.

          6. There’s a sandwich culture just north of me that may as well be on Mars as far as my exposure to it goes.

      4. Trigger Hippie

        I’m a bit of a fan of Pennsylvania Dutch cuisine. Apple dumplings and chicken stew…not mixed together, mind you. Also, who doesn’t love a cheese steak? I mean a real cheese steak with proper Cheese Whiz. Not this mozzarella/provolone bullshit that seems to dominate the Midwest for some damn reason. It’s surprisingly difficult to find here.

        1. MikeS

          Not this mozzarella/provolone bullshit that seems to dominate the Midwest for some damn reason.

          Don’t blame that on the Midwest. As I understand it, half of Philly feels the same way.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            No shit? Huh. I guess I’ve heard before that the original cheese steaks had either mozzarella or provolone on them but I’m really not sure if that’s the case.

          2. MikeS

            IIRC, the original had provolone. Also, pretty sure the sandwich pre-dates canned aerosol “cheese” so I don’t think Cheese Whiz was the original.

          3. Trigger Hippie

            I’m pretty sure it’s the Cheese Whiz you can purchase in a glass jar that’s primarily used for the sandwich. But you’re probably right about the provolone.

        2. Rhywun

          Here in NYC it’s American cheese. I didn’t know about the Cheez Whiz thing but that actually makes sense if you want it to properly mix with the beef.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            American cheese? That’s news to me. Granted, I’ve only been to NYC twice in my life. Both times were very short stays and I never bothered to try much of the local cuisine.

          2. I mean, I’ve had that variation. It’s worth doing once to calibrate your tastes, but that’s about it.

          3. Timeloose

            The provolone is usually a cheese sauce and is damm good. The wiz is great too.

          4. Provolone seems dry to use in a sauce. What are we talking, like a bechamel with provolone? I could get behind that if there were heavy cream involved.

          5. Number.6

            The only variation permitted when ordering is wiz/no wiz.

        3. ruodberht

          Cheese Whiz? Ah, the tourist cheesesteak.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            I guess you and Mike would know better than I.

            But since the Whiz steak is hard to find in my area I always seemed to prefer it.

            *shrugs*

          2. ruodberht

            Dalessandro’s with provolone was amazing. Never been to Dinic’s but that’s the other “non-tourist” one people talk about.

  26. Yusef drives a Kia

    I’m going back in… to season 6 of DS9, the Series is much better than the first time, the Character development is fun to watch.
    I’m way past Razor fist’s Videos, but i’ll soldier on, See ya later!

    1. Rhywun

      I did a run through a few months ago – love it. You’re getting to the best parts.

      Currently nearing the finish line on my second BSG run-through.

      1. Raven Nation

        Just finished S2 of BSG first time through. Still holding up well.

        1. Rhywun

          God I love that show. I want to live in it.

    2. trshmnstr

      I just finished the one where Rahm organizes a union.

      1. Rhywun

        Ugh not one of their best.

        1. trshmnstr

          It would’ve been better if quark told them to shove it up their ass and hired a bunch of bajoran scabs, putting the strikers out of work. But alas, Roddenberry was a commie, so the caricature of capitalism has to be idiotic and paper thin.

          1. Rhywun

            Seriously. That episode gave me the impression that the D team wrote it. Like, as ignorant as their usual depiction of Quark was, that episode felt like it was written by a high school student.

            Still the best Trek series though.

          2. Not only was Gene a commie, but everyone involved in the show was either a member of, or an officer of a union, so there was zero chance of a fair discussion of the other side of the issue.

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            But He had nothing to do with DS9, and the Union episode ended like a typical crony Episode would, cronies…

          4. ruodberht

            Rodd died during the fifth season of TNG, which was a year before DS9 even happened. The Rom episode was late in DS9’s run.

            When I watched all of DS9 over a few months, I skipped that one. Well, I got about ten minutes in and had enough. Profit and Lace I bailed out of even quicker. TNG I could stomach all of them, although some of Season 1 is horrible. Same with 7, and that stupid episode where Lwaxana and Alexander do…whatever.

    3. egould310

      We’re in season 6 of TNG. Will start DS9 soon. We just watched the crossover episode yesterday.

      TNG is pretty good. Thank Jesus for Netflix. It’s fun to watch them without commercials, in sequence. I can’t believe I ever watched cable tv.

    4. Raven Nation

      I’m somewhere in S3 of DS9. I didn’t see all of it when it first came out.

  27. KibbledKristen

    How I know my dog is in good health – he goes to the window at 9:30-10:00 every night to randomly bark at nothing.

    When he was sick with a lung and ear infection, he didn’t do that for weeks!

    1. There has to be something out there that happens at that time. Possibly something you can’t hear (and he coudln’t when his ear was infected)

      1. MikeS

        On the next episode of the Dog Whisperer, UCS teaches Fido to not eat dog treats that contain salt.

      2. Jack spent twenty minutes barking indignantly at a squirrel sitting in one of the crape myrtles out back. Twenty minutes. The squirrel was nonplussed. He also will crawl entirely under the blankets, fart for ten minutes straight virtually uninterrupted, and then stagger out of the bed in desperate search of oxygen.

        And this is a dog who can open baby gates and bifold closets.

        Sometimes healthy dog behavior is indistinguishable from dumbassery.

        1. Rhywun

          He also will crawl entirely under the blankets, fart for ten minutes straight virtually uninterrupted, and then stagger out of the bed in desperate search of oxygen.

          I’ve had nights like that.

          1. You haven’t lived until you’ve had an 80+ pound pit bull quietly fart himself into asphyxiation under your blankets, then drag himself out and collapse onto the floor panting, only to repeat the process until he loses consciousness. Sometimes I think he’s trying to commune with the spirit world or something.

          2. Timeloose

            Welcome to my life.

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            I got that dog in a Video!

          4. Oh my god. That’s Jack, but add fifty pounds and four years. As soon as I figure out this fancy image hosting I’ll post a pic.

          5. Timeloose

            Lemmy’s 8 years old and about 85lbs. 10 lbs of that is fart.

          6. Yeah, that’s my boy. A pit and a pit mix. Between the two of them it’s just like one massive sulfur factory. I’m surprised the things can survive given what ghastly chemistry happens in their intestines.

          7. MikeS

            I am laughing my ass of. Jack sounds like a noble beast.

          8. We refer to him as “built for comfort”. He’s like a mobile hot water bottle. Here’s Stinkin’s.

          9. Timeloose

            Great looking dog. Mine is happy only when he is snuggled with my wife or me.

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          did you borrow my dog?

          1. I’ve tried to find the magical dog food that won’t make them fart rocket fuel but so far no dice.

    2. quincy

      Have you considered a cat?

    3. Timeloose

      Mine likes to test the tensile strength of sodas lime glass when anyone dares to walk in front of the house.

      1. Timeloose

        When sick he acts like a cat.

    4. Tonio

      “Lung and EAR infection…”

      Sounds like he was responding to some type of external stimulus that he could hear but you couldn’t see… neighborhood cat, possum, raccoon, other dog, deer. Don’t know what type of neighborhood you live in but I have all of the above.

    5. Yusef drives a Kia

      Yea for Puppy! Glad to here He’s in good spirits!

  28. Rhywun

    Cat bed fail.

    1. egould310

      That cat did that on purpose.

      1. Rhywun

        I only took that pic because someone mentioned the other day how cats never use their bed and I thought to myself “oh mine always do”. So I look over and see that. Bitch.

  29. westernsloper

    I am surprised the Canucks have not weighed in on the pizza war. My Northern family introduced me to a great pie and I remembered I had a picture of one. The donair pizza is the schnizzle but I prefer the garlic sauce to the sweet sauce. The best one I had was in Calgary but I don’t remember the name of the place.

  30. I need to find a way to reduce the number of components in this workflow.

    Currently It goes
    1 – Buy audiobook from major reseller
    2 – use Dutch language program to convert file format to mp3
    3 – Load mp3 into audacity
    3a – Normalize the bitrate
    3b – Split into chapters
    3c – standardize the metadata to fit the sort method used by my card
    4 – copy output onto usb drive
    5 – load into car.

    1. And adding a phone to the system is not an opion, because ‘major reseller’ changes based upon the audiobook in question, and their proprietary playback apps are not mutually compatable.

      1. Rhywun

        You lost me at “audiobook”.

        1. I need to listen to something during my commute, and radio is just not an option.

          Books fille that void well.

          1. straffinrun

            Damnit. I agree with UnCiv.

          2. Rhywun

            I listen to music and read but I don’t drive so there’s that.

      2. quincy

        Why are you translating things into Dutch? Are the Patroons that oppressive?

        1. The program was written by a dutchman who didn’t bother putting any english labels on. Luckily the interface is two buttons which amount to “Load” and “Convert”.

          1. quincy

            “Load” and “Convert” are the two most successful buttons of colonialism. Just say’n.

          2. “Miscegenate”

          3. That’s just asking for trouble when reparation time rolls around,

          4. quincy

            That too.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      Smoke more Weed

      1. egould310

        Done and done.

    3. Well my conversion mess is done.

      I have a stack of audio to go through.

      The Secret Adversary (Agatha Christie)
      Easy Go (Michael Crichton)
      Pirate Latitudes (Michael Crichton)
      Island of Thieves
      Murder Al Dente
      Nagash, The Undying King
      Aztecs and the Roots of Mexican Cuisine
      Being a Poor Roman
      Being a Rich Roman
      Colonial Cookery in North America
      Leaving the Oceans – The Rise of Plants on Land
      Napolean
      Origins of the Oceans
      Roman Emperors – Good Bad and Crazy
      Sneferu the Pyramid Builder
      Spartan Warfare
      Stalin
      The Early Years of Rameses the Great
      The Manhattan Project
      The Tyanny of George III
      Hallowed Knights – Plague Garden

  31. Trigger Hippie

    In regards to pizza, I like it in nearly all forms. Pan, deep dish, thin crust, calzones, pizza rolls, bagels,..I’ll even eat it in the form of Hot Pockets if I’m in a pinch. Yes, my tastes are for shit.

    Now as far as bbq is concerned, I fucking hate vinegar and mayonnaise. Screw you, Alabama and South Carolina!

    /ducks

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      mayonnaise? BBQ? on what Planet? maybe as a base for… NO, just NO!

      1. Timeloose

        The only mayo based BBQ I’ve encounterd is Cornell chicken marinade and sauce. But it’s closer to in emulsified egg and oil with vinegar.

    2. westernsloper

      I have never encountered mayo in any form associated with BBQ unless it is dealing with the slaw. As to vinegar, that is the only way to go as a base for pulled pork sauces. Some tomato product in there is ok, but without vinegar you are just being an idiot. You may as well sauce with ranch dressing.

      1. There’s a BBQ dressing you get in the ‘Bama that is basically mayo, white vinegar, and some other jazz. I like it, but I like mayo. I will readily concede that it’s not what you normally expect on BBQ.

        1. westernsloper

          I like mayo too on many things, just never thought of that for a bbq sauce. I have even went so far as to experiment with coconut milk type of sauces for pulled pork after seeing it on DDD. I have had success and failures but never remember what the successes were the next day. I need to write shit down.

          1. Personally, I go vinegar on pork or brisket with nada. But I’ve had the Bama stuff and I can dig it. I like it better than the sweet sauces, honestly, because I’m more of a savory guy.

          2. Timeloose

            I like the vinegar mustard and red chili flake on the pulled pork. Brisket I like pickles and a savory sauce.

      2. Trigger Hippie

        As I said to Gilmore below, I’m okay with a little vinegar as long as it’s not the base of the sauce. When I smoke a Boston Butt for pulled pork I tend to go a little heavy on the dry rub, and use equal parts cherry, apple, and hickory woods and avoid the sauce altogether. Some may object to the hickory but I like a little bite to the flavor to offset the sweetness of the pork and fruit woods.

        1. CPRM

          Pork+mustard sauce+apple smoke=amazeballs

          1. Trigger Hippie

            I’m not much of a fan of mustard, to be honest.

            I know, I know, I’m venturing into UCS territory at this point.

          2. CPRM

            Mixed with right sugar combo, it is the best with pork.

        2. westernsloper

          I am all hickory when smoking a butt. I sauce the meat pre serving with vinegar sugar and red pepper flakes. I really like vinegar though.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            To each their own. It just doesn’t suit my flavor palette, not to mention vinegar tends to severely upset my stomach.

    3. Gilmore

      “mayonnaise”

      this is a thing? i’ve never even seen that before.

      vinegar-based bbq condiments are a thing, but they don’t/shouldn’t really inspire any particular animosity since they’re not actually part of the way its served in NC, at least in my experience. you get your meat, and you can do what you want w/ it, sauce wise (or not). my preferred method (for pulled pork) has always been “throw some slaw + pickles on top” and nom nom. I think that’s most people’s thing too since a google image search for “north carolina pulled pork” has about half the examples like that.

      there was a good bbq place in nashville called…. (probes memory)

      …uh, Hog Heaven, i think. right on the side of centennial park. they had a pulled chicken that was good and it had a sort of spicy mayo-ish sauce that was on it.

      Oooh, i found a picture. I ate there like 5 times a week in college. it was like $5 for a plate.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Just Google ‘white bbq sauce’. It’s a thing. An abomination, but a thing.

        I can stand vinegar in moderation but not as the main ingredient in any sauce.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Recipe is on the jars of Duke’s mayo.

    4. Timeloose

      Pizza in all its styles can be good. I’m a bit traditional in my toppings, olives and sausage, pepperoni, and plain.

    5. Raven Nation

      Vinegar is an excellent condiment for use on french fries.

      1. CPRM

        vinegar isn’t a condiment, it’s an ingredient.

        1. Fish + chips + malt vinegar

          1. You forgot the salt.

          2. Raven Nation

            Q + UCS = the right way to eat fish’n’chips

          3. CPRM

            We do ‘fish’n’chips’ round here every friday, it’s called a fish fry. Tartar is the only condiment needed for the fish, unless the cook sucks.

          4. If you’re using tartar, your cook sucks.

          5. CPRM

            If you’re not using tartar, you suck. I bet you’re one of those sickos who brutalizes fresh fried fish with lemon. You disgust me!

          6. Number.6

            Proper malt vinegar. Tartare has its place (in a jar, in the ‘fridge) but undistilled malt vinegar is the Only True Way.

        2. Raven Nation

          *shakes head sadly*

  32. Ass men are objectively wrong.

    FATALITY.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Who Da Fool Said that?

    2. Trigger Hippie

      *raises hand*

      Sorry, Q. I’ll take a firm, perky booty, regardless the size, over big boobs 9/10 times…well maybe 7/10.

      1. MikeS

        This hippie is a smart guy

        1. Trigger Hippie

          You’re not changing my mind here but the effort is appreciated. 😉

      1. Tundra

        Nope. Love ya, Q, but that ass is superior to almost everything.

      2. Number.6

        That is a historic ass, Bill.

  33. AND COORS LIGHT IS GREAT BEER.

    1. CPRM

      I no longer trust your opinions on breasts if you are that bad with beer.

      1. MikeS

        Right? That’s fucking ridiculous.

        1. Trigger Hippie

          Now he’s just trolling

    2. Go home, Q, you’re drunk.

    3. AND ALASKA IN WINTER IS BETTER THAN HAWAII ANYTIME.

      1. CPRM

        Q has proven he is blind, thus proving my point.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Anchorage punches well above its weight in the culinary department.

    4. Tundra

      Great within five minutes of getting off the rink. Otherwise, ewwwwww.

  34. Timeloose

    Here is our old friend Hildog eating old forge pizza pretending she is a local. She has roots via her grandparents and the area is a battleground each election. So she pretends to be one of the little people during each visit.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2017/10/06/i-tried-hillary-clintons-chardonnay-and-hot-sauce-diet-for-a-week/amp/

    1. CPRM

      She also carries her own hot sauce, to appeal to the ni…blacks.

  35. I would rather listen to cats being burned alive in a burlap sack than Radiohead.

    Bob Dylan has a shitty voice.

    BMW’s are overpriced tin cans.

    NO SACRED COW IS SAFE

    1. Q, you’ve got this trolling thing wrong. The way you’re doing it, you come off as a homeless dude screaming at traffic.

      1. Number.6

        NTTAWWT, of course.

      2. CPRM

        I thought we all were? You mean no one else here is?

        1. I don’t know about you, but I am a homeowner.

          1. Number.6

            hnuuuur — hnurrrr, you said ‘homo’, Beavis …

          2. Raven Nation

            I told my wife we had purchased a mortgage. She didn’t find that funny.

    2. Tundra

      Radiohead is worse than Hootie and the Blowfish.

      Yes, but the dude can write.

      You spelled Audi wrong.

      1. Troy

        Radiohead is awesome. Better than Pink Floyd. Fatso Axl Rose singing for ACDC is an abomination.

        1. Tundra

          Bill’s farting dog is better than Pink Floyd.

        2. CPRM

          Radio Head, Pink Floyd and Fat Axl Rose are all inferior to S Club 7!

  36. 1000 Years of Solitude is crap.

    French cuisine is a pile of cream-covered effluence.

    Citizen Kane is an impenetrable mess.

    BRING IT ON

    1. Tundra

      Huh?

      Huh?

      Huh?

      1. CPRM

        French cuisine, Dinner Mondu.

        1. Tundra

          “Gee, I’m real sorry your mom blew up Ricky”

          Damn, what a great scene!

          1. Timeloose

            This is fabulous liquor.

    2. CPRM

      The actual film accomplishments of Citizen Kane have been obscured. The true technical wonder was the use of deep focus, which with video is standard, but to achieve with film was an astonishing accomplishment. The rest is all hype.

    3. Troy

      Kate Upton is unfuckable because she has no hips.

      1. Another shot fired in World War G!

        And you’re not serious.

        http://celebritynaked.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/kate-upton-nude-1.jpg

        NSFW!

        1. That’s actually the best she’s ever looked as far as I’m concerned.

        2. CPRM

          That looks like quite the pot belly. I mean, on a local girl who’ll drink a case with me I wouldn’t mind, but for someone only famous for her looks, yeash.

        3. Troy

          Awwww. Who am I kidding? Who wouldn’t want to titty fuck the living shit out those beautiful hooters?

    4. Mastering sauces is a keystone of cooking skill and will serve you well in any cuisine, as will a respect for the flavors inherent in fresh ingredients.

      Also, cast iron is superior to all other surfaces. And, Glocks are fantastic. Furthermore, Stephen King is overrated.

      1. No strong feelings on cast iron.

        CZ75 >>> Glock.

        Stephen King is garbage.

        1. Tundra

          Love cast iron.

          Glocks don’t feel right.

          Salem’s Lot was a really good book,

          1. Timeloose

            Agreed, also hops in moderation, whiskey with ice, and dogs over 20 lbs.

          2. Tundra

            Yep. No ice in whisky, though. Manual over automatic. Veronica over Betty.

          3. DOOMco

            Glocks really don’t feel right. Maybe if they would try not using a brick or a bunch of legos as a template?

        2. Gustave Lytton

          CZ75 doesn’t come in .45GAP.

          *bam*

          1. Timeloose

            Tangfoglio in a CZ clone makes a 45, 38 super, and 10mm

          2. Number.6

            CZ 97 comes in 45 ACP.

            You could call the 45 GAP “45 Kurz”, because it’s just like the 380 compared to a 9mm.

            The major difference between 45GAP and ALL the others is that you can actually find all the others on shelves.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Zombie Oswald Mosley as headmaster of a boy’s grammar school.

  37. DOOMco

    +avocado!

  38. Tundra

    Star Trek, in all its iterations, sucks balls.

    1. CPRM

      Our bromance is OVER!

    2. Troy

      Gay

  39. Gustave Lytton

    https://imgur.com/VEU7kMz

    And they were good.

    1. Tundra

      Uh…

    2. I think a horse ejaculated on your fries.

      1. CPRM

        ‘I Think A Horse Ejaculated On Your Fries’, the new Oscar nominated film, is taking the world by storm! prediction for 2020.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Weinstein’s cumback.

    3. straffinrun

      Just ate some home made fries myself. After Q’s comment, I’m glad I just ate them with salsa.

  40. DOOMco

    The war is back?!
    https://youtu.be/59tRaxf4uag

    1. CPRM

      The Matrix is more interesting if you think his avatar in the Matrix was Cowboy Curtis before he broke free and became Morpheus.

      1. DOOMco

        Woah. New plan. Rewatch with this.

  41. Eggs by themselves are inedible swill.

    As are 95% of all breakfast foods (minus bacon and sausage).

    Vodka is disgusting.

  42. DOOMco

    Old people, am I right?
    https://youtu.be/9DCXk0YzH3Q

    1. Tundra

      You win. That sucks worse than anything else on this thread.

      1. CPRM

        You hate star trek, so.

      2. DOOMco

        Don’t make HM come down here and post whatever is on his browser or camcorder.

      3. Gustave Lytton

        Did you say something? I was picturing a four way with Rachel, Hannah, and Tina.

    2. Would red bra girl with extreme prejudice.

      1. CPRM

        Jo? So you like them manly? OK, not judging. (judging in secret)

      1. Trigger Hippie

        I actually like that track…yes, I was a raver kid back in the day.

        1. Trigger Hippie

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIF81M0yQA

          And now I’m down the rabbit hole….

  43. Game of Thrones sucks.

    Rye is better than bourbon.

    Shy girls are better than slutty ones.

    1. DOOMco

      “it’s about the process.” Dennis Reynolds

    2. Mustang

      I have not seen one episode of Game of Thrones.

  44. DOOMco

    All of your opinions on pizza are wrong. Here’s why. https://youtu.be/RpkQEq75y18

  45. Gustave Lytton

    Bacon is overrated.

    (not the Glib)

    1. *autistic screeching*

    2. DOOMco

      But if you don’t demand, what will happen to the supply?!

    3. CPRM

      Bacon was a poor person food before, now they took that from us! It’s cultural appropriation!

    4. straffinrun

      Even in Flatliners?

    5. Mustang

      YOU’VE GONE TOO FAR SIR.

  46. Gustave Lytton

    Timothy Dalton was the best bond, The Living Daylights is the best Bond movie, and Kara was the best Bond girl.

    1. CPRM

      Timothy Dalton was the best bond

      Truth to power!

      1. CPRM

        Also, a great villain in The Rocketeer.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          All I remember is Jennifer Connelly.

          1. CPRM

            It was a great part of ‘Make Love The Bruce Campbell Way’ when Billy Campbell (star of the Rocketeer) became his arch nemesis in casting.

    2. EvilSheldon

      *fist-bump*

      The Living Daylights was the only classic Bond movie that felt like a spy movie, rather than an action-comedy for dumb people.

      I don’t know if Kara was the best Bond girl (there’s strong competition), but she certainly belongs in any discussion of the best.

  47. DOOMco

    What’s the funniest conspiracy theory?
    Mine is probably the one where the Nazis we t into the hollow earth at the end of ww2.

    1. Mustang

      There’s nothing funny about the truth.

      1. DOOMco

        I was just testing the waters.

    2. CPRM

      The Russians!?

  48. KSuellington

    Pizza takes many forms, thin, thicc, deep, etc. What matters more is how tasty it is, or how drunk and hungry you are. You could write a book on what toppings are and are not acceptable in what combinations.

    1. KSuellington

      Hawaiian is most certainly an accepted combo, just not the best. It does for an odd slice or two. The best would be mushroom, olive and sausage. With a hefty pinch of crushed red peppers.

      1. DOOMco

        I’ve been digging mushrooms and a bunch of garlic lately.

        1. KSuellington

          Tasty.
          Hope all is well with you doom. I am going to replace the suspension on the Willys. Just got the springs and shocks and assorted parts together. Hope to get it on in next week or two but work and kids make it tough. How’s your locksmithing going?

          1. DOOMco

            Nice! Send pics! My 40 is still waiting out the winter.

            It’s good. Learning campus is taking forever, and I’m still not used to waking up so early. Haven’t done that in a long time. Campus life is very different than my shop experience. Not in the what as much as the pace and attitude. We can’t work on door closers or hinges here. Union stuff. And nothing gets done without a work order. Which all makes sense but in my head when I pass a door that closes odd or something my instinct is to fix it.

          2. KSuellington

            Will do. Keep on picking.

      2. wdalasio

        Heathen.

        Sausage (crumbled, not that sliced nonsense), minced garlic, and just a little anchovy. Nothing winds up soaking the crust and the taste is to die for.

  49. Gustave Lytton

    The Democrats are more open and amiable to libertarianism than Republicans. Or libertarians.

    Hah hah. Sorry. Can’t keep a straight face on that one.

    1. Chafed

      What brought that on?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Alcohol. What else?

  50. DOOMco

    Pizza rolls are just Italian flavored Tide pods.

  51. Comic book movies are useless.

    Macs are overpriced rubbish.

    Alison Brie is not that attractive.

    1. CPRM

      Comic book movies are useless.

      *This 34yr old man who was bullied as a child for liking comic books, and has an entire relationship with his nieces and nephews based on comic book movies runs away crying.*

      1. Chafed

        There, there CPRM. Deadpool is here to comfort you.

        1. Trials and Trippelations

          Deadpool would probably say cumfort

    2. Chafed

      They are not (usually, but not always)

      You’re right

      Yes she is and the real Q would post her tit pics.

  52. DOOMco

    Q turned his bump stocks in.

    1. Trying to figure out this euphemism…

      1. DOOMco

        You didn’t feel bad that Denver hasn’t had any turned in?

        Must everything be a euphemism, q?

        Penis.

        1. CPRM

          Denver was the last Dinosaur.