Firearms Friday: SHOT Show MEGAPOST

I have returned, brave glibs! Certain real life circumstances have kept me away from the site, but know that I am always here, watching, waiting, and ready to talk about guns for hours on end. SHOT Show finished off today. For those that don’t know, SHOT Show is the biggest firearms trade show on earth. It is where all the big (and small) manufacturers gather to show off their newest toys. Unfortunately, my invitation must have gotten lost in the mail so I was not able to attend in person, but I have been scouring the tubes looking for the biggest gun news to share to you, our loyal shitposters. So, without further delay, here are the biggest stories from SHOT 2018:

  • Probably the biggest shakeup of the show was Franklin Armory’s debut of a gun they call ‘The Reformation’. It’s an 11.5″ barreled fully functional AR with a stock and does not require a NFA tax stamp. People were freaking out about this thing for at least a week before the show. It turns out that the secret is a pretty big let down: it has a straight rifled barrel. This means the bullets don’t come out spinning. For those wondering, yes, that gives it terrible accuracy. They claim something like 4 moa at 50 yards before it starts keyholing. They also claim they are working with ammo manufacturers to create finned bullets specifically for this design. If it works, we could (possibly) see a major change in firearms production as companies make special non NFA sbrs with straight rifling. Most likely scenario? This thing becomes the gyrojet of the 21st century. Only time will tell.
  • On a significantly less disappointing note, Ruger has come out swinging with their ‘new’ PC Carbine. It’s a traditional looking rifle chambered in 9mm that can take either SR series magazines or Glock magazines with a simple adapter change, and the adapter is included. The gun is fully reversible for right or left hand operation, and it even breaks down into 2 parts for transport and storage. Those of you that have been around guns for awhile probably remember Ruger making a very similar gun called the police carbine, hence the quotes around new. This is basically an updated version of the same gun. This thing is a real winner, and there is a very good chance I will be picking one up in the near future.
  • IWI dropped a bombshell this year by debuting it’s new TS 12 bullpup 12 gauge shotgun. It has a fixed 15 round magazine consisting of three separate 5 round tubes that can be loaded from either side. Once the selected tube is empty, simply rotate the magazine and snap the next 5 rounds in place. Not a perfect solution but it might be good enough. It’s going to be an expensive AF shotgun, but we will have to see if it’s worth the coin. Between this and the new Tavor 7, I might have to sell some of my concubines.
  • It has finally happened. A company has made a housing for the P320 FCG that turns it into a sbr style pistol. Called the EXO ONE, it is sure to put me even further into debt.
  • Century has decided to jump on board the 9mm gravy train with it’s new Draco NAK9 pistol. It is a blowback 9mm AK style pistol that takes Glock mags. Do want.
  • Not to be outdone, CZ has come out with the Scorpion Micro. Sporting a 4 inch barrel and a collapsible stock brace, this looks like quite a nice little, uh… ‘pistol’ for your truck or other tight space.
  • This is quickly becoming the year of the 9mm and the 12 gauge. Mossberg and Remington have both come out with magazine fed 12 gauge pump guns. The Mossberg ones are slightly more interesting seeing as how the magazine are actually double stack. This allows them to hold considerably more ammo without sticking out freakishly long below the gun. Is the era of the tube fed shotgun coming to an end? Could be…
  • Strike industries has developed an AR magazine that will eject itself on the last round fired. I can see this becoming the go to standard magazine for 3 gun matches. No word on pricing or availability yet. I am anxiously awaiting their arrival.
  • Palmetto State Armory is going into production with an AK pattern 9mm carbine that takes… MP5 magazines? Huh. Well A for originality on that one. They also plan on releasing a 5.56 AK that takes AR mags and a 9mm AK that accepts Glock mags, proving that they haven’t completely lost their minds. Much more interestingly, they also are working on producing their own in house MP5 clones; however, those will not be available anytime soon.
  • However, PSA might be out of luck on their MP5 clones cause PTR just beat them to it.
  • Sig has officially announced you will be able to buy the M17 on the civilian market, ensuring a steady consumer base of up and coming Call Of Duty neckbeards for generations. They also introduced a slim frame subcompact 9mm with a 10 round capacity called the P365.
  • Attention Canada: You can now purchase Glock 19s! The Canadian legal Glock 19 has a slightly longer barrel to comply with your retarded barrel length laws. You’re welcome.
  • And last, but not least, my favorite handgun company Walther has finally release the PPQ Subcompact. Took you guys long enough.

That is all for now, my loyal readers. As for when I shall return, I cannot say. But know this: When the future is darkest, when the world needs me the most, I shall return. Until then, I will always be watching through my magnified red dot.

Comments

194 responses to “Firearms Friday: SHOT Show MEGAPOST”

  1. Playa Manhattan

    Thanks to Zunalter, I have Ludacris rapping nursery rhymes stuck in my head.

    I’ll make sure to return the favor one day.

    1. Zunalter

      If it’s any consolation, posting that video got it stuck in my head again, too.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        GOOD

    2. robc

      I was smart enough not to click on that link.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        It’s very catchy.

  2. So… is this a Lynx post?

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Looks like it. Its a post, with linx.

      1. DOOMco

        dropped at 4.

  3. libertarianjoe

    I kind of hate that Draco NAK9….but I also like really really want one.

    The Franklin Reformation is DOA, in my opinion. I mean it costs like over $2k, But it’s a really good proof of concept type thing, to show the absurdity of the gun laws in our country. I saw an interview with a guy at Franklin and it cracked me up when he said “you know, the projectile could actually do more damage entering sideways”. Uh huh, right. The last 2 hundred years of firearm development were just wrong, we should have been keyholing the whole time!

    1. They’re selling toys to a niche.

      It’s not going to be much of a serious shake-up.

      1. libertarianjoe

        I agree. Really I’m just amazed they went through the whole process of making that thing.

        I guess I could see a market if they just made an AR upper with that barrel. Then you could have your silly “SBR” musket upper to mess around with, then switch back to a real rifled upper when you’re done. Huge waste of money either way.

        1. Holger-da-Dane

          Depending on how it’s classified, you might not be able to legally drop it on your rifle lower? But I’m not a lawyer.

          1. libertarianjoe

            From the interview I watched, I believe you can. The Reformation itself is 100% the same as an AR, besides the barrel. But if you switched the barrel out for an 11.5 inch *rifled* barrel, you’d be committing a felony.

          2. Holger-da-Dane

            Yeah, I don’t know. If it changes the classification from “rifle” to “something else”, it might be a no-go?

            Supposedly you can’t legally change an AR rifle into an AR pistol/firearm, but you can change your AR pistol into a rifle/firearm and back again?

            Like I said, I ain’t no lawyer.

          3. libertarianjoe

            So if I took the upper off of my AR rifle (carbine technically), and put the Reformation upper on, it wouldn’t be changing it to a pistol, because it has a full rifle stock. If i put on an 11.5 inch *rifled* barrel, it would be going from a rifle to a short barreled rifle. However, the Reformation couldn’t be classified as an SBR, because it’s not a *rifle*.

            It’s my understanding that it’s completely legal to switch around AR uppers, lowers, and parts as long as the final configuration is legal, which in this case it would be. But that may differ by state, not sure

          4. libertarianjoe

            Actually, you’re right, my bad. If it was originally an AR pistol, you can do whatever the hell you want basically, But if it was originally a rifle, you can’t convert it to a pistol. I had forgotten about that stupid rule.

            However, I’m still not sure if it would be illegal to go from rifle to “firearm”. I guess we’ll find out soon, thanks to Franklin

  4. Sean

    Personally, I’m intrigued by the new Alpha Foxtrot Glock aluminum lowers.

  5. The Late P Brooks

    They also introduced a slim frame subcompact 9mm with a 10 round capacity called the P365.

    Blech.

    1. Sean

      If they work, I’ll probably look to pick up a used one in the future. They aren’t high on my want list though.

  6. Count Potato

    “Is the era of the tube fed shotgun coming to an end? Could be…”

    I severely doubt it. Many states have a limit the number of shells it can load for hunting.

    1. What is sad is how much effort is expended to bend innovation to fit pointless regulation.

    2. Caput Lupinum

      That’s due to the migratory bird treaty and corresponding federal migratory bird treaty act. In addition to limiting shotguns to the rounds for hunting, the supreme court case over the act was the origin of the “living document” phrase.

      1. The Robin is covered under that treaty – even though there is 90% overlap between their summer and winter ranges.

        1. Caput Lupinum

          Non-migratory birds such as the Amakihi are covered as well. The treaty and act are both imbecilic in structure, if not entirely in nature.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        I can’t have a gun capable of holding more than 3 shells if I’m deer hunting.

        My Mossberg is capable of holding 5, but has to be plugged at 3.

        1. If I duct-tape a couple of double-barrelled shotguns together, does that make it an illeal device for hunting?

          1. Bobarian LMD

            I think they might have a tough time proving you were hunting if they caught you with that abortion out in the field.

            They might be able to accuse you of illegally driving game.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    It turns out that the secret is a pretty big let down: it has a straight rifled barrel.

    Even shotguns have minimum barrel length. What am I missing?

    1. libertarianjoe

      It’s not a shotgun, I believe, because it fires a brass cased cartridge, and not a shotgun shell. However, this gun is not a “rifle”, since it does not have rifling, which is defined as being specifically for the purpose of imparting spin on the projectile. Lastly, it’s not a pistol, since it has a full shoulder stock.

      So, its a “firearm”. So I guess….checkmate, ATF?

    2. Holger-da-Dane

      The full retardation of gun laws?

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      A shotgun is a smooth-bore. That may be the distinction.

      1. libertarianjoe

        But not all shotguns are smooth bore. You can have shotguns with rifled barrels, usually used for hunting with slugs. They’re actually very common around me because you can only legally hunt deer with a shotgun.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Are you in HI? In HI a rifle-barreled shotgun is the only thing you can hunt with (boar).

          A shotgun also has to fit between two definitions, the length of the barrel and the OAL length. I’m just speculating on how they are getting away with it.

          1. libertarianjoe

            I’m in the People’s Republic of Maryland, and we’re pretty much shotgun only too. My point was just that a shotgun can have a rifled barrel and still be classified as a shotgun.

          2. R C Dean

            Southern Wisconsin is the same way. I lucked into a 2” MOA slug barrel with the right ammo.

  8. Holger-da-Dane

    Looks like they just need to fold up the NFA and throw it away already. Thanks to good old American ingenuity it’s becoming more irrelevant by the day.

    1. Zunalter

      I don’t think the natural reaction of bureaucracy is “hey, this isn’t working, let’s throw it away”. If memory serves, it’s to double down on the retardation.

      1. It’s not the bureaucracy that can discard the NFA.

    2. Lachowsky

      I like the gesture. Good on them for making it, but that’s a useless gun. I wouldn’t buy one. without the rifling it’s dangerous. 4 MOA at 50 yards amd then your bullet starts gling god knows where.

      “be sure of your target amd what’s beyond it”

  9. Just Say’n

    “they call ‘The Reformation’”

    I find this name to be ‘othering’.

    1. Zunalter

      Please report to your nearest safe space.

    2. thepasswordispassword

      It’s like a formal protest against the NFA but the end result is a weird bastardization. The name is definitely on point.

  10. mexican sharpshooter

    I can see myself buying the CZ Scorpion. That’s about it from this Shot Show.

    1. Sean

      I love my carbine, but I can’t seem to talk myself into the pistol version. The micro version? That goes on the the maybe list.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Looks like its small enough to fit in the center console/armrest.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Many states have a limit the number of shells it can load for hunting.

    I have a friend who grew up in Arizona. He and his buddy were out bird hunting one time (in, like, high school), and he got busted for not having the plug cut down piece of broom handle in place. I think the game warden just scolded him. Now, they’d probably fine you a couple grand and confiscate your gun.

    1. Tundra

      Depends on how nice your shotgun is.

    2. SandMan

      The 3 shell limit is usually just for migratory birds (e.g. ducks, doves), as most states have a higher limit (5, and perhaps no limit) for non-migratory birds (quail, pheasants) and small game (rabbit, squirrel). But if you are checked by a game warden while duck hunting they will always, 100% of the time check to see if they can cram more than 2 shells in the mag. They may not know jack-shit about identifying what duck you shot, but they can usually count to 3. It’s not something they usually let you skate on since it’s a slam dunk.

      I’ve been tempted to take the plug out while turkey hunting, but worried I’d forget to put it back in for duck season. When I was young a friend of mine had a pencil in the tube for a plug in his shotgun, and it was almost too short. We both saw the game wardens eyes light up when he was almost able to get the 3rd shell in the mag, it was about 1/16″ from making it. He tried several times before he admitted the gun was legal.

  12. DOOMco

    PPQ SC might be on my list…

  13. Bobarian LMD

    M17 – The commercial version will be almost identical to the Army-issue, full-size MHS, except it will not have the anti-tamper mechanism for the striker action, nor will it have the special coatings on some of the internal parts that help it maintain lubricity under harsh conditions

    So not really an M17, more like a brown P320?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Opportunity to later release a specially priced M17 edition of the civilian M17.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    Apropos of nothing, I want a coach gun.

    Practicality is vastly overrated.

    1. So you want to literally ride shotgun?

    2. Bobarian LMD

      Until you go out and shoot it…

      This thing is another notch out of the NFA, but it sounds like if you don’t shoot the mini-shells, you won’t want to shoot it at all.

      1. Laenhart

        You can set up the “firearm” Mossberg and Remington with a brace, that was always the idea.
        https://suarezinternational.com/new-remington-870-pointman-12-gauge-14-barrel/

    3. I want a coach gun.

      Reporter: What do you think about your team’s execution?
      John McKay: I’m in favor of it.

  15. DOOMco

    walther is also now making their ppq and pps with the slide cut for an RMR.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      RMR?

      1. DOOMco

        this would fit without any of the adapters

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Ah ok, so a reflex sight. I haven’t been keeping up with things. Thanks.

          1. DOOMco

            That is what I should’ve called it.
            My bad

  16. Semi-Spartan Dad

    The Mossberg ones are slightly more interesting seeing as how the magazine are actually double stack. This allows them to hold considerably more ammo without sticking out freakishly long below the gun.

    Thanks for sharing that. $800 isn’t that much higher than a new Mossberg. It includes one 10 round mag and additional ones a little over $100. So really $700 for the shotgun itself.

  17. Playa Manhattan

    I’m sure it’s been posted in the last few days, but there was much hand-wringing on the left about having the Shot Show in Vegas this year.

    You know, the same place that it is every year. The largest convention city in the world. Yeah, that place.

    1. Zunalter

      Is someone going to try to shoot up a group of people in a convention where everyone is probably armed?

      Or is it just more of a “let’s pretend that the gun is the problem, not the crazy idiot” thing?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Lemme see if I can find one.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        A lot of the headlines are like this:
        Gun industry holds massive trade show near site of Las Vegas massacre

        And by “near”, they mean several miles away.

        1. EvilSheldon

          The self-indulgent whinging was found entirely among the mass-media. The convention center and the Vegas tourism board know which side their bread is buttered on.

  18. Derpetologist

    A famous sci-fi author says Star Wars is bad and you should like Star Trek instead:

    “Star Wars” despots vs. “Star Trek” populists
    Why is George Lucas peddling an elitist, anti-democratic agenda under the guise of escapist fun?
    https://www.salon.com/1999/06/15/brin_main/

    ***
    In “Star Trek,” when authorities are defied, it is in order to overcome their mistakes or expose particular villains, not to portray all institutions as inherently hopeless. Good cops sometimes come when you call for help. Ironically, this image fosters useful criticism of authority, because it suggests that any of us can gain access to our flawed institutions, if we are determined enough — and perhaps even fix them with fierce tools of citizenship.

    By contrast, the oppressed “rebels” in “Star Wars” have no recourse in law or markets or science or democracy. They can only choose sides in a civil war between two wings of the same genetically superior royal family. They may not meddle or criticize. As Homeric spear-carriers, it’s not their job.

    Can we learn more about the “Star Wars” worldview by comparing George Lucas’ space-adventure epic to its chief competitor — “Star Trek?”

    The differences at first seem superficial. One saga has an air force motif (tiny fighters) while the other appears naval. In “Star Trek,” the big ship is heroic and the cooperative effort required to maintain it is depicted as honorable. Indeed, “Star Trek” sees technology as useful and essentially friendly — if at times also dangerous. Education is a great emancipator of the humble (e.g. Starfleet Academy). Futuristic institutions are basically good-natured (the Federation), though of course one must fight outbreaks of incompetence and corruption. Professionalism is respected, lesser characters make a difference and henchmen often become brave whistle-blowers — as they do in America today.

    In teaching us how to distinguish good from evil, Lucas prescribes judging by looks: Villains wear Nazi helmets. They hiss and leer, or have red-glowing eyes, like in a Ralph Bakshi cartoon. On the other hand, “Star Trek” tales often warn against judging a book by its cover — a message you’ll also find in the films of Steven Spielberg, whose spunky everyman characters delight in reversing expectations and asking irksome questions.

    Above all, “Star Trek” generally depicts heroes who are only about 10 times as brilliant, noble and heroic as a normal person, prevailing through cooperation and wit, rather than because of some inherited godlike transcendent greatness. Characters who do achieve godlike powers are subjected to ruthless scrutiny. In other words, “Trek” is a prototypically American dream, entranced by notions of human improvement and a progress that lifts all. Gene Roddenberry’s vision loves heroes, but it breaks away from the elitist tradition of princes and wizards who rule by divine or mystical right.

    By contrast, these are the only heroes in the “Star Wars” universe.

    Yes, “Trek” can at times seem preachy, or turgidly politically correct. For example, every species has to mate with every other one, interbreeding with almost compulsive abandon.
    ***

    Hey Brin- your books are bad and you should feel bad.

    1. Sorry, but The utopian aspects of Trek make no sense since I grew up.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Star Wars is realistic, in a sense, of the ability of the people to rise against an oppressive government and topple it. It can apply easily to the real world.

        Star Trek is in a society where nobody wants for anything because all laws of science have been revoked and we’re able to create everything out of nothing. Until that happens, meh.

        (Plus Kirk was a legacy who only got into Starfleet Academy because of his dad, then cheated on the Kobiyashi Maru exam and was still allowed to continue with his studies because of his privilege)

      2. Derpetologist

        Star Wars has characters motivated by money and aliens who don’t speak English, which puts it ahead of Star Trek in terms of plausibility.

        1. thepasswordispassword

          What about the Ferengi?

          1. An unsubtle caricature of free enterprise by people who didn’t grasp the concept.

          2. EvilSheldon

            “An unsubtle caricature of (((free enterprise))) by people who didn’t grasp the concept.”

            There you go.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re both silly. The original Star Trek had the advantage of being a Western in space.

    3. gbob

      The Star Trek world is a world without money, where nobody can own property, where your life is apparently dictated by a group of people who tell you what you can achieve. Oh yes, and somehow they got rid of all religion. If you’re the best of the best, you can apply to explore the galaxy. Other than that? Doesn’t seem like you have any agency.

      I’m not quite sure how the Federation got rid of (((people))) who had a different set of beliefs, but history makes me suspect that there must have been countless millions who found themselves beamed into space.

      Only man I respect in that world is Kirk, because he liked smuggling ooze and banging exotic aliens.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Shatner wins, always.

  19. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Ah Ruger, you bastards, don’t y’all already have enough of my money? That carbine looks pretty sweet.

    1. Number.6

      It’s on my list to evaluate once the initial flush of interest wears off. It’s stopped me looking at the (highly) inflated prices of used PC9s. That guy who wanted to hold out for $900 on Gunbroker ought to be sad about now. The only ‘meh’ in my mind is that it looks like it might be difficult to find an optic that seats low enough on the rails to cowitness with the iron sights

  20. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t think the natural reaction of bureaucracy is “hey, this isn’t working, let’s throw it away”. If memory serves, it’s to double down on the retardation.

    “Nothing another thousand pages of regulations can’t fix.”

  21. Derpetologist

    Did the ancient Greeks encounter SEA SMITH? Tantalizing new evidence suggests the answer is yes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostos#/media/File:Metope_(1).JPG

  22. Derpetologist

    leftists are shameless hypocrites, exhibit 92Y

    Self-proclaimed feminist stars keep attacking Sarah Sanders for her looks
    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/01/26/self-proclaimed-feminist-stars-keep-attacking-sarah-sanders-for-her-looks.html

    ***
    Hollywood women have banded together like never before on issues including pay inequality and sexual harassment, declaring that women all over the world need to stick together and be supportive of one another. But experts say several stars aren’t practicing what they preach when it comes to Donald Trump’s press secretary, Sarah Sanders.

    Self-proclaimed activist Chelsea Handler wrote in an op-ed for Thrive in Dec. 2016: “Let’s stop it with the dialogue about how women look or what they wear, or if they’ve gained or lost weight. We are more guilty of this with each other than most men are.”

    Cher has often spoken out about the sexualization of women, declaring at the Women’s March on Jan. 20 that she “believe[s] in this movement.”

    But both stars recently attacked Sanders solely over her looks.
    Cher tweeted to Sanders on Tuesday to “stop dressing like a sister wife.” After fans slammed Cher for the hurtful tweet, she followed up by admitting it was “kinda mean” but “so funny.”

    Handler has gone even further than Cher by mocking Sanders’ “summer whore lipstick” and calling her a “harlot” on her Netflix show. Comedian Fortune Feimster even wore exaggerated makeup to play Sanders for a skit on Handler’s now-defunct series.
    ***

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Handler sucked and fucked her way to the top. She’s an authority on all things “whore”.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        She’s very useful, much like Al Gore.

        Please, please, please let her be the face of this movement.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          If she has anything to say about it, she will be

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Handler sucked and fucked her way to the top bottom of the middle, at best.

        Her top was a late night show on E.

    2. tarran

      I wondered who the hell these people were, and why I was supposed to care. OK, I knew who Cher was, but the others didn’t ring a bell.

      Then I read the article and realized that it wasn’t about anyone or anything important. Phew!

    3. Derpetologist

      So…can we make fun of feminist haircuts now? I say yes.

      https://pics.me.me/barber-whatchu-want-i-want-everybody-to-know-that-im-23293879.png

    4. Gustave Lytton

      Cher has often spoken out about the sexualization of women

      Hah! From the woman who’s made her millions that way, including strutting on the deck of the USS Missouri in lingerie.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        That wasn’t lingerie. That was fishnet, electric tape and a jacket.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Ok, so even less.

  23. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Vhyrus, we all know you couldn’t attend SHOT because you were too busy “preparing” yourself for the AVN Awards. Brushing up on old titles and the like…

  24. I’d be up for that Ruger carbine if they made it in .50AE, .450 Bushmaster or even .45ACP. Can’t see the need for a mouse gun that doesn’t fit in a holster.

    1. Laenhart

      One of the original models took 1911 mags in .45, i would love to get my hands on one of those. Ideally with a nice wood stock.

  25. Count Potato

    “Shark charities say they’re getting stream of donations mentioning Trump

    Shark-related nonprofits say they have received a stream of donations mentioning President Trump since an adult film star who allegedly had an affair with Trump said he told her he hoped sharks die.

    The Atlantic White Shark Conservancy and Sea Shepherd Conservation Society have both said they have received a flood of donations since Trump’s comments were reported, MarketWatch reported.

    “We have been receiving donations in Trump’s name since the story was published,” said Cynthia Wilgren, chief executive officer and co-founder of Atlantic White Shark Conservancy, based in Chatham, Mass.”

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/370470-shark-charities-say-theyre-getting-stream-of-donations-mentioning

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Fools are so easily parted with their money

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Has anyone else ever seen The Magic Christian?

          It was quite controversial back in the day.

          1. Mad Scientist

            I love the scene where they throw money into a vat of sewage and people wade in to retrieve it.

          2. Tundra

            Never heard of it. Looks suitably bizarre.

            Have you watched the whole thing?

          3. Bobarian LMD

            I saw it in HS, on one of the early pay movie channels, and have never seen it since.

            It lambasts religion and a lot of other things… I seem to recall it being threatened with an X rating.

      1. Count Potato

        Jokes on them, I already gave my money to Save The Mosquitoes.

  26. Also – was there nothing there for the non-tacticool market? Nothing with polished, blued steel and fine walnut?

    1. Tundra

      Market says…………

      nope.

      1. The going price for nice pre-64 Model 70s would seem to argue otherwise.

        1. Tundra

          I should have said industry. There is always a market for cool old stuff.

          1. Yeah, the industry has gone all tacticool, except for a few holdouts like Perazzi, Merkel, Holland & Holland and a few others.

            That’s probably why the cool old stuff market has been pretty good.

            Personally I thought the tacticool craze jumped the shark when Mossberg brought out a lever-action .30-30 with a collapsible stock and a half-dozen or so Picatinny rails. Enough is enough.

          2. Tundra

            To each his own. My carry gun is black and plastic, but I have an old Model 50 semiauto that is just so damn pretty.

      2. EvilSheldon

        Thanks God.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      There is a reason nobody visits the Perazzi booth.

      1. each shotgun goes for nearly $100,000

        For a shotgun?

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Ever handle one? Holy shit are those nice.

          1. Tundra

            A friend of mine is in the industry and collects guns. He showed me a couple super duper high end shotguns and, while the details are lost on me, you can definitely feel the difference. Kind of like closing the door on a Bentley.

    3. Derpetologist
      1. Gustave Lytton

        I fired one of those at a machine gun shoot. Lots of fun.

        1. Derpetologist

          I shot one at the Vegas Machine Gun Experience. I really like the idiot-proof “contract all your fingers too shoot” thing.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Quite possibly the simplest machine gun ever made.

        The equivalent of a zip-gun.

        1. Derpetologist

          Unit cost Approx. USD $15 (1943; equivalent to $212 in 2017)

          ***

          Russia sells AK-47s for about $150.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            One of each, please!

          2. Derpetologist

            Ah, the Libertarian Special. Excellent choice.

          3. Bobarian LMD

            The AK is a much better weapon. When I was a young LT, they were still issuing these as the driver’s weapon on the M60 tank and M551 Sheridan ARV.

            Effective range was about 50m, but it never would fail to fire, unless the ammo was bad. Spray and pray.

            When someone in the US builds an AK, it’s probably a $600 gun.

  27. Count Potato

    “Call-Out Culture Is a Toxic Garbage Dumpster Fire of Trash

    There’s a name for this behavior: witch hunts. Someone is accused, judged, and condemned for an alleged or apparent transgression, and the townspeople on Facebook and Twitter grab their pitchforks and rush to the burn pile. There may be little evidence to support the prevailing narrative, but that hardly matters. The trial is conducted via social media, and the judges are anyone with access. Take a recent incident in Seattle, when the (ironically, Jewish) founder of the Punk Rock Flea Market was widely accused of being a Nazi sympathizer after a false and unsubstantiated claim that he kicked a woman of color out of his event was circulated on social media. I often write about social media mobs exactly like this, and what I have found is that they are not frequently misinformed, they are almost always misinformed. You just don’t know what happened unless you were (A) there or (B) someone has actually investigated whatever claims have come forth. But that’s not how mobs work.”

    https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/01/23/25741141/call-out-culture-is-a-toxic-garbage-dumpster-fire-of-trash

  28. Count Potato

    “Meet the anti-SJW ‘skeptics’

    They’re not religious (most are atheists) or necessarily conservative (several lean to the left even on economic issues). Some are vulgar, uncouth, and aggressive. Yet, these skeptics fight for freedom from progressive insanity. Here’s a quick look at seven of them:

    Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad): Benjamin uploaded his first video in 2013 and quickly gained a following for his critiques of feminism and progressivism, along with his discussions of historical and cultural topics, such as the spread of Islam. His YouTube channel has more than 700,000 subscribers: An atheist who rarely attacks religion, he lives in England with his wife and child.

    Dave Cullen (Computing Forever): Dave Cullen’s channel originally emphasized reviews of computers and smartphones, and Cullen himself was a fan of the New Atheists. Over time he commented more and more on social justice progressivism and men’s rights. Though still an atheist, he now says Christianity has served a good and important role in civilization.

    Gregory Fluhrer (Armoured Skeptic): A former Catholic, Fluhrer is a moderate liberal with a mellow tone who has atheistic leanings but became disillusioned with the Atheism Plus movement when he saw it turning atheism into a rigid ideology. June Lapine is his girlfriend.

    T.J. Kirk (The Amazing Atheist): Kirk lives in Louisiana and professes to have never been religious, even in his traumatic childhood. For a decade he has attacked creationism and religion, but opposed secular political correctness with equal vigor. His channel has more than 1 million subscribers.

    June Lapine (Shoe On Head): The child of Italian Catholic parents, June Lapine twice voted for Barack Obama but became frustrated and angry at SJW fear-mongering and collectivism. She started her YouTube channel to voice her complaints but takes a lighter tone than many other skeptics.

    Chris Maldonado (Chris Ray Gun): Maldonado, born in the Bronx to Catholic Puerto Rican parents, professes never to have believed in God. A liberal who supported Bernie Sanders in 2016, he mocks SJWs and campus “snowflakes” and has issued a series of parody videos called “Social Justice: The Musical.” He has more than 400,000 subscribers, lives in Los Angeles, and dates Laci Green.

    Blaire White: White transitioned to female as an adult after being a rape victim and embracing SJW politics. White now identifies as a conservative and says transgenderism is a mental disorder, only two genders exist, and those who encourage minors to transition are guilty of child abuse. White’s sassy, blunt delivery pulls in more than 350,000 subscribers on YouTube.”

    https://world.wng.org/2018/01/a_tale_of_two_feminists

    1. thepasswordispassword

      Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad): Benjamin uploaded his first video in 2013 and quickly gained a following for his critiques of feminism and progressivism, along with his discussions of historical and cultural topics, such as the spread of Islam. His YouTube channel has more than 700,000 subscribers: An atheist who rarely attacks religion, he lives in England with his wife and child.

      Usually written amnesia takes a few sentences.

      1. Count Potato

        Discussing the spread of Islam and attacking religion aren’t the same thing. Then again, I’m not all that familiar with his opinions because his videos are so long.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          his videos are so long.

          THIS. I haven’t come across a topic where Sargon didn’t say the same damn thing that Pat Condell managed to say in just 5 minutes.

          1. Festus

            Condell reference! Squeeee! I love you even more, my dusky-hued brother.

          2. Number.6

            Check out his other channel –The Thinkery – the stuff is often much less ‘academic’, but is short-form

      2. No, you see you only “attack religion” if you go after Christianity, sometimes Judaism. Criticism of Islam isn’t attacking Religion, it’s Islamophobia and racism

        Don’t you speak prog?

  29. Count Potato

    “I know what you’re thinking: The Tide Pod Challenge couldn’t possibly be political, could it? Actually, yes, it is.”

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/26/tomi-lahren-tide-pod-challenge-pay-attention-parents-and-do-better

    1. I don’t get it. Is it supposed to get you high or something? If actual teenagers are really eating soap as some sort of weird Internet dare, I’m going to be that guy and say they should go ahead and eat a handful so they scoot past brain damage and go straight to dead. At least that way they aren’t a burden.

      1. Viking1865

        They’re not doing it. It’s a joke/meme that these idiot media types are falling for. It’s like any other stupid “ZOMG THE TEENAGERS ARE DOING X” moral panic.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    I often write about social media mobs exactly like this, and what I have found is that they are not frequently misinformed, they are almost always misinformed.

    Moral outrage is its own reward.

    1. Derpetologist

      The Benefits of Extremism
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhPMQnWu4

      short version- hating “bad people” makes you feel good

  31. Sean

    I’ve been kicking around the idea of getting a 7.62×39 upper for my AR.
    Any reason not to?

    1. Count Potato

      Magazine problems?

      1. Sean

        I’ve been led to believe current magazines are reliable.
        Especially the C products.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          The only magazine issue I’m really aware of is that non 5.56 mags tend to be more expensive because they’re less ubiquitous.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Get a.458 Socom instead

      1. Sean

        .458 socom is a little too spendy for my tastes.

    3. EvilSheldon

      There’s not a single one available that will run. Plus, you look like an ignorant hilljack if you ever take it out in public.

      1. Sean

        I’m not sure what a hilljack is, but I don’t think I wanna be one.
        ?

    4. Plinker762

      I have built three 7.62×39 ARs and they have run great. I shoot them more than .223.
      C-Products mags, Wolf hammer spring and enhanced firing pin.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    A famous sci-fi author says Star Wars is bad and you should like Star Trek instead:

    *ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ*

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Living document? Hah!

    The governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut said Friday they are forming a multistate coalition to sue the Trump administration over the 2017 tax bill, challenging the constitutionality of a provision that limits Americans’ ability to deduct their state and local taxes from their federal bill.

    The law sets a new cap of $10,000 on the amount of state and local property and income taxes that can be deducted from federal taxable income. That will disproportionately harm their residents, the governors said in a conference call, and is motivated by politics rather than sound fiscal policy. All three governors, Andrew Cuomo of New York, Dannel Malloy of Connecticut, and Phil Murphy of New Jersey, are Democrats.

    “The new federal tax law destroyed a century-old tax structure between the federal government and the states,” Cuomo said on Twitter. “New York will sue.”

    The article, it may surprise you to learn, is silent on the actual Constitutional issue underpinning the suit. Unless the Not Fair! Clause counts.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Dem governors are falling over themselves lately to obtain the title of dumbest asshole alive.

    2. Derpetologist

      I knew there must be a reason people put up with outrageous state income taxes.

      So for decades, states have gotten away with taxing the hell out of their residents by letting them deduct it from their federal taxes.

      And now they’re arguing that it’s unfair to put a cap on those deductions.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Watch, only Clinton and Obama appointees hear this case and it makes it to SCOTUS.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Has anyone else ever seen The Magic Christian?

    I saw it in college. It didn’t make any sense, but we were pretty drunk. We laughed a lot, as I recall.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    McArdle on the SALT lawsuit

    This appears to be the option that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has settled on for the nonce; he just announced that New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are forming a coalition to bring suit against the feds. This is an intriguing strategy. But alas for the citizens of New York State, probably a doomed one.

    I spoke to Michael Dorf, a law professor at Cornell who recently outlined the possible lines of attack that such a suit could take. For one thing, they could argue federalism, a tack that even conservative judges should find appealing. “There’s an argument that the Sixteenth Amendment does not empower the federal government to treat money that is owed to state and local governments as part of the tax base,” he said. “If you go back to the Sixteenth Amendment it’s clear that states were concerned about this at the time of the drafting.”

    The problem? “The hard part there for the plaintiff states, while that was a concern for the people who adopted the Sixteenth Amendment, it’s not anywhere in the amendment.”

    —————

    Jonathan Adler, who teaches law at Case Western, was even more pungent, and succinct. While we don’t know what form the complaint will eventually take, since the states haven’t yet drafted it, “What we have seen [so far] would suggest that there is some sort of constitutional right to a SALT deduction. To state the claim is to refute it.”

    I’m still waiting for the “raise my taxes” Democrats to offer up a standing ovation for this blow for freedom and equal treatment under the law.

  36. AlmightyJB

    Why you shouldn’t get into guns

    https://youtu.be/caMHdcRNEkc

    1. I actually laughed at that.

      You monster.

      1. AlmightyJB

        It’s so true.

        1. Not So! I can stop any time I want!

  37. Count Potato

    “CW described its new show as a ‘fierce, funny, feminist reboot of the original series that centers on three sisters in a college town who discover they are witches.

    ‘Between vanquishing supernatural demons, tearing down the patriarchy, and maintaining familial bonds, a witch’s work is never done.’”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5317863/Holly-Marie-Combs-hits-CWs-plan-reboot-Charmed.html

    1. fierce, funny, feminist reboot

      IOW, crap.

  38. CPRM

    I’ve been gone all day, so I don’t know if anyone posted the new Remy song yet.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Dilly dilly

    An inmate who escaped a federal prison in Texas was caught trying to sneak back in.

    Investigators got a tip that inmates were sneaking out of the facility, picking up contraband and taking it back into the facility, according to the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office.

    On Thursday, they say the caught an inmate doing just that.

    Narcotics Investigators and the U.S. Marshals set up a surveillance on the private property behind the facility and less than two hours later they said a vehicle dropped of a large duffle bag.

    Investigators said an inmate, 25-year-old Joshua Hansen, ran from the prison grounds and grabbed the bag.

    Deputies arrested him as he ran back toward the prison.

    The duffle bag contained a package of marijuana, three bottles of Brandy, 1 bottle of whisky, multiple bags of Buglar tobacco, packaged snacks, fruit and “a large amount of home cooked food.”

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      That’ll teach him to compete with the guards’ racket.

  40. Pan Zagloba

    Some Russian collusion for Friday afternoon.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    This just came on I haven’t heard it in ages. Good ol’ George Thorogood.

  42. DEG

    Most likely scenario? This thing becomes the gyrojet of the 21st century. Only time will tell.

    That would be interesting if The Reformation led down that path.

  43. mexican sharpshooter

    Apparently, the president NOT firing Muller is evidence of obstruction because by not firing him proves he wanted to fire him, therefore it is obstruction.

    I think I got that right.

    “Explicit evidence of such an intent, like actually ordering Mueller’s firing, is extremely valuable to the investigators. “This evidence,” Cotter said, “will make it even harder for Trump to argue that whatever he did—was not because he was trying to obstruct.”

    Ron Hosko, former chief of the FBI’s criminal division, said the president has placed himself in a potentially “precarious” legal position that also will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated.
    […]
    An obstruction case would be harder to prosecute without evidence of an underlying crime, such as colluding with a foreign government to tip an election.

    So, they have nothing? But that only means Trump is guilty of something. Therefore it is obstruction.

    1. Urthona

      He was completely obstructing their ability to make pre dawn raids and then knab people in subsequent procedural crimes.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated

      Wait, so Trump is going to allow himself to get suckered into getting interviewed now?

  44. Subwoofer

    We may have dodged a bump stock ban at the Federal level but it looks like one might be coming to a state near you.

    Interesting that Nebraska is trying to sneak in a silencer ban on the back of a bump stock ban.

    1. DEG

      Bump stocks in the news in NH:

      Wrong information about who supports bump stock ban

      As of early afternoon, the website listed several Republican co-sponsors of SB492 who actually oppose the bump stock ban, including Avard, as well as Sens. Sharon Carson, Andy Sanborn and several others, including Senate Majority Leader Jeb Bradley and Senate President Chuck Morse.

      NH Senate holds hearing on bump stock ban

      A firearms accessory that many people had not even heard of until the mass shooting in Las Vegas last year was the focus of a heated debate in Concord on Thursday, as the Senate Judiciary Committee heard testimony on a bill to ban bump stocks in New Hampshire.

      Senate Bill 492 establishes a misdemeanor offense for the manufacture, sale, possession or use of the device, technically known as a “multi-burst trigger activator.”

      “This legislation would ban the use and distribution of bump stocks in the Granite State while preserving the rights of our state’s law-abiding gun owners,” said the bill’s chief sponsor, Senate Minority Leader Jeff Woodburn, D-Whitefield.

      One of these things is not like the other.

      1. Jeff Woodburn thinks 2A is only for hunters. He also happens to be a walking cunt.

  45. C. Anacreon

    Anyone going to the Scott Adams and Nick Gillespie interview/cocktail event in San Francisco this evening? Mrs. Anacreon and I will be there, please introduce yourself. Look for the dork who’s there with the attractive strawberry blonde. Not sure if there will be many other women there, so we may be easy to spot.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      It’s not nice to call your wife a dork.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Scott Adams and Nick Gillespie interview/cocktail event in San Francisco

      This is so much concentrated stupid it overflows and becomes awesome. Hopefully there’ll be a video!

  46. Hyperion

    $400 fine for asking for woman’s phone number in France?

    France is leading the way to progtopia. Australia gets jealous, proposes $1000 fine for even talking to women.

    1. What could go wrong?

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Holy shit, that will fix their public debt situation in 18 months.

  47. DEG

    I still have some Gaffel Kölsch in my fridge. I thought I had drunk it all. Oh well. It doesn’t taste quite fresh anymore, but it is still drinkable.

  48. Trigger Hippie

    OT: I just received word that I’ll be gathering about $500 of extra take home pay due to the tax cuts over the course of the next year. While that may seem like ‘crumbs’ to some people, it would nearly cover a month’s worth of electricity, gas, cable, water, and trash pickup for a lowly flyover counrty peasant such as myself….fuck you, Nancy Pelosi.

    1. Trigger Hippie

      *country…I regret nothing.*

      1. thepasswordispassword

        You meant country matters?

        1. Trigger Hippie

          Xenophobia, FTW!!!

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Congratulations. Eat up those crumbs!!! NOM NOM NOM

    3. Tundra

      *high five*

    4. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, we received some nice bonuses as well.

    5. Hyperion

      Well, it’s something anyway. about $9 a week if my math is right. If that’s the avg, most people are not going to notice it, so it probably won’t help Trump out too much, but the corporate cut most definitely will.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Proper stewardship of your finances makes the benefits of the tax cuts apparent over the long haul. Not that I’m saying that’s a common trait nowadays amongst the populace, but I take what I can get and consider myself lucky given the alternative.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        *cue economist’s joke about leaving a twenty on the sidewalk*

    6. DEG

      Excellent!