Thursday Morning Links

Not a lot of news happens during this time of year, everyone who makes news is on vacation.

 

Except for Trump who took a surprise trip to Iraq.  With timing of gold, while he was there, the usual suspects were caterwauling about him never vising the troops.  Then proclaimed that he only went there due to pressure from them despite that is takes weeks to plan these trips, this elicited a nice bitch slap from Brit Hume.

 

In addition to Trump’s visit humiliating the TDS left, so did the stock market which had the largest one-day gain of 1,086 points.

 

“You telling me I can’t put a fist inside something this small?”

 

Police have a video of Kevin Spacey sexually assaulting a teenager.  Glibertarians has exclusive footage of the aftermath of another alleged assault.

 

Always good to wait for all the facts to come out before outraging.

 

 

Trump already planning for victory.

 

 

 

Thieves confronted by 6 good men with guns after attempting to steal tools.

 

 

New York City goes six days without a murder.

 

I actually want Kamala Harris to be the candidate solely to see her publicly ripped to shreds over her nasty prosecutorial record.  This is a nice start.

 

That’s all I got for today.  I’ll leave you with a song and move along.

Comments

388 responses to “Thursday Morning Links”

  1. Pat

    Always good to wait for all the facts to come out before outraging.

    The issue isn’t the issue, the revolution is the issue.

    1. But will it be televised?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Get with the times Grandpa!

        It will be streamed.

        1. *Throws set of Nikes at His Holiness*

  2. Pat

    Thieves confronted by 6 good men with guns after attempting to steal tools.

    Don’t worry, Washington is well on its way to making sure this type of thing never happens again. The gun owners intervening to stop a crime, that is. Not the theft.

    1. Sean

      LOL, they actually shot out the tires.

      *pew pew pew*

    2. Raphael

      +1 No such thing as a “Good Guy with a Gun”

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      Marysville police Cmdr. Mark Thomas on Monday said it’s unclear if the other people involved fired their guns lawfully, as they left before law enforcement got there. Security footage showed one of them getting in a vehicle just as the first officer arrived, Thomas said.

      Fantastic. Take care of the problem and then go away before you have a new set of problems.

    4. leon

      I know i might get ragged for this but i was part of Jury Selection for a similarish case (wasn’t selected tho). I don’t know the facts of the case so i can’t determine how i would have voted, but knowing from what i looked up after, i probably would have voted to convict. The guy shot a burglar as he fled and shot at the car as it drove off. Being a gun owner means being responsible, and part of that responsibility is being conscious of what you are shooting at and what could happen if you miss a target. I don’t think it’s valid to shoot at a fleeing thief if there is no obvious evidence that someone is in danger.

      1. R C Dean

        Well, in this case, they did intentionally run into someone with a car in order to avoid a citizen’s arrest.

        1. leon

          Fair enough, that would demonstrate some intent to hurt others, and putting them in danger.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            “He was coming right at me” tends to work pretty good as a defense if you’re in a certain line of work.

      2. Someone was in danger…of having $1600 of his property stolen. Plus the dude tried to run over someone.

        1. leon

          Running a dude over (or attempting to) is worthy of being shot at and killed. Fleeing with $1600 is not.

          1. I am sure if it was $1600 in meds that were critical, I could get a jury to acquit.

          2. leon

            Of course, it is always dependent on the situation. $1600 in critical medicine vs $1600 in cash. My point is that even in the most free society, the ability to use deadly force is going to be looked by a jury of your peers and that in a lot of these cases you as the user are not in such a cut and dry position as we would like to think. But yes in such a case i could be convinced to acquit.

          3. Is fleeing with $10k in goods? $50k? $500k?

            Or are you saying one should be prohibited from stopping someone from stealing property once they pick it up and begin to flee?

          4. leon

            As Swiss points out, it will depend on the context of the goods (critical medicine, critical to your livelihood, etc) but as a principle, yeah, you shouldn’t use deadly force against someone who is not immediately threatening you. A fleeing person poses little danger to you, so shooting them is disproportionate.

          5. I disagree with this, although I understand your point.

            I should be able to determine what’s vital/critical/etc, not an arbitrary group of bureaucrats. And I can assure you that crime would drop dramatically if normal people were able to stop a robbery in progress by whatever means necessary and proper to the best of their knowledge. It’s the thief who is depriving someone of their property. And they should realize that if they’re going to steal what someone has worked for, they run the risk of that person being able to stop them at any point in the process of the theft.

            My feelings are only strengthened when I think about how seriously the police take robberies that are reported to them: by not giving a single fuck.

            Sorry, but someone shouldn’t be able to get away with depriving me of what is mine merely because they are one step faster than I am.

          6. Jarflax

            Traditionally the rule was you could use deadly force to prevent a person who had committed a felony from fleeing. That whole Felony / Misdemeanor schema was based on degree of harm, but then our masters decided to make everything on earth a felony and really muddied the waters.

          7. This is the policy at the Wal Mart my brother works at, especially during the late shift. People waltz out of the store with TVs. For Wal Mart, it’s a write-off and they don’t have to pay security forces to hang around the store.

  3. Old Man With Candy

    Get used to it, Harris will be the next president. Yahweh help us.

    1. Banjos

      Kamala might have the female minority thing going for her (thank you racist leftists obsessed with race). But like Hillary, she comes across as cold and calculating. Cold Kamala or Cruel Kamala would be her Trump nickname. She’d be torn apart.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Nah, it will be something about Willie’s willie. And it won’t work.

        I look on the bright side- we survived Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Trump. She won’t be any worse. We’re not going to get President Amash, much as I’d love that.

        1. leon

          hmmm. let me talk to some Russians for you…

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Who knew Soledad O’Brien was such a bitch? Replying to Brit Hume:

    Sorry—let me spell it out more slowly so you can understand me: the President (according to cnn’s Barabar Starr) prepped for this trip several weeks ago. The shaming seems to have worked. I hope you’re having a nice holiday. Try not to be such an a**hole in 2019.

    1. It’s not the job of the media to shame people.

      And if it were, they should have been shaming Obama.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Any person who uses the let me go more slowly so you’ll understand line in an argument is best avoided at all costs.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Uh… I work with kids, so I use this all the time.

        See, lots of parents are really stupid, and I have to talks slow so they can catch up with the kids.

    3. straffinrun

      They shamed him in November for not taking the trip in December.

    4. leon

      I’m really confused. The shaming was going on this week. So you admit that it could not have worked because… you know… he planned for it before you shamed him.

    5. Pope Jimbo

      I don’t know how these trips go to an active theater, but I remember having some VIP visit Okinawa while I was there and it totally sucked.

      We spent weeks cleaning, standing inspections for a potential parade and actually drilling a bit. All because the O’s wanted to kiss ass. Us poor enlisted pukes never even got to see the bastard (my memory is making me think it was VP Bush, but can’t remember for sure).

      My gut tells me that it is the same now as it was back then and a bunch of non-rates spent weeks running floor buffers for Trump to spend a couple hours there. I bet they would have liked him more if he had just done a video conference instead.

      1. You don’t have to get ready for white glove, but they do disrupt things a bit. I remember almost fiercely cursing out a CODEL (Congressional Delegation) for interrupting a..uh, developing situation.

      2. Chipwooder

        Cheney came to Al-Asad in 2005 when I was there. Wasn’t a big deal as far as I can remember. I will say that the Secret Service agents protecting him were fucking MASSIVE. It was like they hired the Steelers’ defensive line.

      3. A Leap at the Wheel

        The dog that didn’t bark was when GWB made a surprise visit on… Thanksgiving? Maybe Xmas? It was a huge story because it was only planned in like 3 days, and it was a genuine surprise.

        So therefore, we know that a regular visit takes much more than 3 days.

    6. Rebel Scum

      That doesn’t sound right. Someone should explain more slowly to her how time works.

      1. Regular time, or relativistic time?

    7. Who is she calling an asshole? Hume or Trump?

    1. Raphael

      Someone who used to work at the LA Times admits it.

    2. Pat

      Don’t read too much into it, they just want cheap weed.

    3. leon

      You mean, Legalize and Tax the hell out of it maintains the same black markets as not legalizing it?

    4. mexican sharpshooter

      Retailers and growers say they’ve been stunted by complex regulations, high taxes and decisions by most cities to ban cannabis shops.

      I bet its still profitable on the black market.

      1. Even moreso, with the law enforcement pressure diminished.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Are you thinking what I’m thinking?

          SwissWeed, LLC. We’ll hire a bunch of Mexicans landscapers as a front!

          1. Old Man With Candy

            SwissWeed has holes in it?

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            The plan or the product?

          3. “Your cannabis delivered precisely on time!”

          4. mexican sharpshooter

            Gold/silver coins accepted as payment!

          5. Naturally….preferred, in fact.

          6. Not Adahn

            We’ll hire a bunch of Mexicans landscapers as a front!

            Why a front? Hire them for landscaping. And growing. And harvesting. And processing. And running the cafeteria. And…

            /lived in TX

  5. wchipperdove

    Thanks to everyone who linked to or enjoyed my Christmas poem, esp. SP for running it again this year.

    In other news, I just started using a CPAP last night for the first time. While not entirely successful (I wore it only probably about 40% of the night, if that), I do think I’ve already received some benefit from it. But it’s a full-face version, and when I breathed out while wearing it, I felt smothered, so I kind of cheated and wore it incorrectly so I could breathe out thru my mouth outside the mask.

    Anyway, this is supposed to be one of things that will change my life for the better, but first I have to get used to using it correctly.

    Any advice? Have any other Glibs used one before? Thanks.

    1. Raphael

      Thank you for posting the poem. It was great and I had to struggle not to chuckle at work when it got published. I sadly have never used a CPAP so I got no idea.

    2. leon

      No advice, my father uses a CPAP and it has done pretty well for helping him get restful sleep.

    3. Not Adahn

      I can’t sleep without mine. I often have allergies sufficient to constrict my nasal passages, but the pressurized air can make it past them. I got used to exhaling against the pressure. Plus the forced air supply lets me pull covers over my head which helps darken the room, which keeps me asleep longer.

    4. Old Man With Candy

      It’s not Christmas without that poem.

    5. R C Dean

      My advice: use it correctly. Get a different mask if you need to. Check the settings on your machine. But the purpose of the machine is to increase the air pressure in your, well, head, and if you wear it so it leaks, it’s not doing that.

      I’ve had one for years. Once you get them sorted out, they are great.

      1. creech

        Ditto to that advice.

    6. STEVE SMITH

      WHYCOME YOU HAVE STEVE SMITH STEAL, NOT RAPE? OH, WAIT – IS FICTION! GOOD JOB!

    7. wchipperdove

      Thanks for all the responses.

    8. A Leap at the Wheel

      I started using one a few years ago, and it legit changed my life. I was having literally off-the-charts numbers of apnea events every night before I started using it. I use a mask that covers the nose and mouth because I am forever clogged in one of not two nostrils. Not sure if that’s what you have, or the really, really full face mask that covers over your eyes.

      Yes, it absolutely changed my life.

      In any case:

      1) Make a goal of improving your compliance a little bit every night. You did 40% last night? Shoot for 50% tonight, etc.
      2) Don’t be afraid of short-term pharmaceutical aids to sleep. I used Benedril for the first couple of nights.
      3) My experience doing mindfulness meditation helped out a *lot.* One, it made me more mindful of my breathing, and able to focus on it even given the novel stimulus of the mask and pressure. Two, it made me more able to accept the stimulus without feeling the need to react to it. Please note that I’m marginally claustrophobic, and sometimes have trouble on airplanes etc.
      4) Spend an hour a day “practicing.” Lay down, put on the mask, put on a podcast, and just focus on wearing it and breathing. If you fall asleep, that’s great, but even if not, that’s ok.
      5) While you are practicing and falling asleep at night, focus on breathing steady, deep breaths. Part of it is just acclimating your lungs and muscles to operating under greater pressure, and you need to build them up. Just like in Dragonball Z when they train in the gravity chamber. /nerdz

    9. Drake

      I got it to work correctly for me when I started using a chin-strap to keep my mouth closed.

  6. Pope Jimbo

    Fargo/Moorhead weatherman talks some real Global Warming

    When Lake Agassiz drained catastrophically to the sea, it is estimated that the level of the oceans rose more than three feet.

    A bit of background on Lake Agassiz

    1. Suthenboy

      Thank you for posting that.
      10K plus years ago North Africa and much of the ME was not a desert. I always thought a change in ocean currents due to the ending of the most recent ice age was the cause of the transition to desert both in north africa and central west south america but I just had a fuzzy idea of how that may have come about. Now I have a better idea of that mechanism.

      1. R C Dean

        Not even 10K years ago, more like 3K is my understanding.

        Texas also looked a lot different 400 years ago when the Spanish first showed up. Wetter and cooler. Shit changes. Natural causes.

        1. leon

          Impossible the world has always been a cool 70 degrees.

        2. dbleagle

          The book “The Fate of Rome” examines the factors that were impacting Europe in the 5th and 6th centuries CE. There were an number of factors including disease, changes in rainfall, and the pressure from Asian invaders. Most relevant to Suthen’s point. The atmospheric cooling as the climate changed from the Roman Optimum toward the Little Ice Age impacted ocean currents which then impacted rain patterns throughout the Med Basin. Mankind had zero to do with changing the climate, it just had to adapt to forces beyond it.

          The book has only a couple AGW references and they feel like editor driven additions and not the author’s thesis or warning. Good read.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Given the shenanigans that the Army Corps of Engineers gets up to to keep the mouth of the Mississippi exactly where it is now, I’m sure they would have gone absolutely bonkers trying to keep Lake Agassiz dammed up if they had been around back then.

        1. MikeS

          Yep. “For the wildlife”.

    2. Fourscore

      Yeah, I remember that. Our lakeshore cabin became a little house on the prairie…

      1. Pope Jimbo

        All that Global Warming that caused Lake Agassiz to form was because you refused to stop riding that giant grass guzzler of a mastodon Fourscore!

        Hope you and yours have a great 2019 at your palatial compound out there on the prairie.

  7. Scruffy Nerfherder

    SJWednesday: Yeah, I know, I’m late

    We’re all raised in a society that’s built on ableist values that are also linked to white supremacy, capitalism, and colonization, which is why the people we love sometimes have oppressive views.

    As someone with a disability, I’m often exhausted by all the emotional labor I have to do just to exist in this world, especially when I’m constantly educating others about ableism and trying to get them to unpack their own ableist ideas.

    1. Pat

      I mean, at least she’s willing to admit that she’s mentally retarded. So brave.

    2. Raphael

      What a basket case.

    3. Suthenboy

      She sounds fun. A real blast at parties I bet.

    4. Christ, what an asshole.

      Compare her to Dan Crenshaw or Tyler Trent or a million other people who look at their life as a blessing. She can go fuck right off.

    5. How about we abandon you on a mountainside?

      /Spartan

    6. Chipwooder

      “Emotional labor” has become the new most tiresome phrase spouted by lefties.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s totes problematic.

      2. Rebel Scum

        Right up there with their “unpaid labor at home” bs. It’s called homemaking.

    7. MikeS

      …I’m constantly educating others about ableism and trying to get them to unpack their own ableist ideas.

      Or, you could reduce some of your exhaustion by not telling people what to do and think all them damn time.

    8. Rebel Scum

      constantly educating others about ableism

      Maybe people don’t want to be lectured to about bullshit.

  8. Pat

    Did a Queens Podiatrist Help Donald Trump Avoid Vietnam?

    In the fall of 1968, Donald J. Trump received a timely diagnosis of bone spurs in his heels that led to his medical exemption from the military during Vietnam.

    For 50 years, the details of how the exemption came about, and who made the diagnosis, have remained a mystery, with Mr. Trump himself saying during the presidential campaign that he could not recall who had signed off on the medical documentation.

    Now a possible explanation has emerged about the documentation. It involves a foot doctor in Queens who rented his office from Mr. Trump’s father, Fred C. Trump, and a suggestion that the diagnosis was granted as a courtesy to the elder Mr. Trump.
    Mr. Trump, center, during his senior year at the New York Military Academy. He would receive a medical exemption from the draft a few years later.CreditFred R. Conrad for The New York Times

    The podiatrist, Dr. Larry Braunstein, died in 2007. But his daughters say their father often told the story of coming to the aid of a young Mr. Trump during the Vietnam War as a favor to his father.

    The paper of record, everybody.

    1. leon

      I mean by 2007 Trump was quite a well known figure, so it’s not impossible that the Dr would have bragged about having seen him. And it’s possible. But then again… Since no one knows who did it, and the guy is dead…

      “Mr. Trump, center, during his senior year at the New York Military Academy. ”

      I have no problem with the NYT calling Trump, “Mr. Trump”. It’s traditional to refer to the president in that manner, and i don’t like titles. But I do get annoyed that they will still print “President Obama” when the man is no longer president.

      1. Rebel Scum

        “President Obama” when the man is no longer president.

        This. The title goes with the office, not the person.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      So…a rich guy keeps his kid from being drafted? This is surprising behavior?

      1. Mojeaux

        And a poor man has a kid and goes to college. /1968

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      If anything this is something that would have been arranged by Two Scoops dad. It shows that people with means will do what they can to keep their kids safe and out of a silly war.

      Perhaps, Donald took that message to heart and is now doing that same thing by getting our military out of silly wars.

      I crack myself up with that kind of talk.

      1. Tejicano

        Side topic on this subject…

        In the same way that I feel I am merely a tourist in the abortion discussion – since it doesn’t affect me directly – I feel women’s opinions on the draft are similarly less relevant.

    4. Suthenboy

      Yeah. I am calling bullshit. Shameless liars. If the guy did it for Trump he did it for a lot of others as well. He would not have remembered Trump specifically and his daughters would not have heard about it. This bullshit is on par with ‘Kavanaugh orchestrated gang rapes’.

      1. Banjos

        “Daughter throws dead father under the bus to get Trump.”

    5. Slammer

      Muhammad Ali is a hero to these same people for taking the stand he did.

      1. There’s a difference. Ali refused induction and went to prison to make his point. While I have no problem with someone doing what they can to avoid being forcibly put in the military, someone willing to go to prison to make their point is most definitely higher on the hero scale, IMO.

        1. Slammer

          That may be true, but these people aren’t putting Trump on the hero scale, they put him on the villain scale

          1. They did the same when they tore into GWB for getting a National Guard post while Bill a Clinton was sexually assaulting women partying at Oxford.

          2. straffinrun

            Sloop has a good point. The people criticizing Trump, however… “How dare he not go to a place where we can accuse him of baby killing.”

  9. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “The department is asking those who shot at the car to come forward and provide statements.”

    It’s a trap! Really, it is. Don’t do it fellas.

    1. leon

      This. Referring to the guy i talk about above from my jury selection, if he had talked to a lawyer before talking to the cops, he probably would have been in a much better place.

    2. Tejicano

      I read the article. Nobody shot at the car. They shot at the tires. Nothing freaking semantic about this. This kind of thing should happen more often.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Something something think of the children who might have been hit by stray bullets (but weren’t).

        1. Tejicano

          I guess that my education and experience with firearms tells me that shooting through tires into asphalt pretty much drains all the energy out of any projectile. Probably the safest way to discharge a firearm anywhere.

        2. leon

          As i said above, being responsible gun owner means you have to be responsible for the consequences of using that gun. Shooting a gun willy nilly shows negligent disregard to others. If you can demonstrate that you thought the perpetrator was endangering you or others then you would have a case that it wasn’t willy nilly, but if you are just trying to shoot someone fleeing, you are no better than the cops who shoot criminals in the back, or fire wildly.

          (as it is, it looks like this criminal was using his car to ram other people.)

          1. Suthenboy

            The two moron thieves would have been dead if it had been cops. Ever hear of cops shooting out tires? It would have been a 6 cop mag dump, two dead suspects and probably a couple of cops and bystanders hit in the circular firing squad.

          2. leon

            Cops being dumb shits is not a good defense.

            The reason why cops don’t shoot out tires is that guns are used for deadly force. If you are going to use them, you best be trying to kill something. The fact that they shot out the tires actually is detrimental to their case.

          3. Suthenboy

            Detrimental in front of what jury? My guess – DA would put the screws to them to get them to plead out and lose their gun rights so the case never gets in front of a jury. They made the cops look bad.

          4. leon

            I’m not going to argue a hypothetical. But the fact that they shot out the tires shows that they were not trying to kill anyone, which in turn demonstrates at least a little that they didn’t really fear for their life or the life of others. You don’t fire warning shots.

            Anyway i think these guys would have a good case. Multiple witnesses show that the robbers had a weapon, that they threatened to run someone over.

          5. Tejicano

            Reading the article I see that the armed guys were surrounding the vehicle which the thieves were trying to flee in. So when they shot at the tires it wasn’t from some distance away but a couple feet away – basically downward into the tires.

            I have been a Marine using firearms in dynamic situations, and I have a bachelors in Mechanical Engineering as well as having a lot of experience shooting at discarded vehicles in the US southwest where I grew up – so I understand a lot about how hypersonic projectiles perform while penetrating different media.

            Really, shooting handgun ammunition downward into a tire with asphalt beyond that – the tire will get the bullet to expand and the asphalt will soak up the rest of any remaining energy. No ricochets. Nobody harmed.

          6. I could convince a jury that they saw the car was trying to run someone over, so they shot the tires out to stop it. If they were depraved, indifferent monsters, they would have lit up the drivers.

            /Prior trial lawyer off

          7. Stillhunter

            @Swiss
            I believe you could also convincingly argue killing the driver could cause the car to accelerate and harm others.

          8. Stillhunter

            To be clear, I mean that killing the driver would be less preferable to disabling the car, thus removing a large potential for mayhem from the equation.

            I also tend to think that using a gun only In a situation where you intend to kill something could be misguided. Though the situations are limited, I think this case is an example. A gun is a tool. Is using it to shoot tires ideal? No, but certainly can be effective in catching the thief or other evil doer. Who, as was said would likely get away with it if they weren’t caught right away.

            I Fully understand the potential for idiots to cause problems, but I think most ccw holders are pretty good about understanding their gun and what it can do.

            IOW, until I see evidence of good citizens causing harm, I’d rather see more of this than less.

          9. If you know what’s behind your target and act accordingly, I have no problem with shooting a thief as he escapes with your property.

            Sorry, but my right to defend my property doesn’t end simply because the thief has started to flee and has his back to me. A crime has taken place. A crime with a victim. And the victim has every right to stop the crime in progress to protect what he/she has worked to obtain.

          10. leon

            And if you killed that guy i’d vote to convict you of murder.

          11. So you don’t think someone should be able to stop a robbery in progress once the thief has turned to go?

          12. Current state of the law differs, but most places you cannot use deadly force on a fleeing property crime perp. Disproportionate. Now, if it is a cop…. “I was in fear for my life” would work, no matter where the guy was facing….video evidence might stop that from working (Laquan McDonald).

  10. Pope Jimbo

    How is this possible? You can’t have private people raising money to help school kids! The only acceptable way to pay for that milk is to have the govt impose a new tax and a new department to allocate the new revenue to the proper kids.

    During the summer milk runs, she still rides on the back of the Harley Davidson driven by her father, Paul, and she said she looks forward to the day when she can ride a motorcycle of her own in the fundraiser, which has collected more than $175,000 to provide milk to elementary school students in Fargo, Moorhead and West Fargo.

    *I have a friend who says the reason I stopped growing in the 6th grade was because I missed out on the morning milk time because I was in “timeout” for some transgression.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Wouldn’t have sex with your teacher too?

      1. Evan from Evansville

        HEAD Teacher. Head Teacher. I’m trying to have sex with her.

    2. Pat

      There’s no special reason for humans to drink milk after weaning. But it’s their money.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Dolly Parton haz a sad.

        1. Not Adahn

          Anything that makes Dolly sad makes me sad.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Why do all of Dolly’s kids have mustaches?

          To hide the stretch marks!

      2. leon

        Ummm i’ve seen the cereal commercials. Milk is always a part of a complete breakfast.

        1. Evan from Evansville

          Milk is gross and should only be used when cooking.

          Unpopular, yet factually correct—-People who put milk in cereal are doing it wrong and should be publicly shamed for their bad decision.

          Cereal is supposed to be eaten with the fingers as a snack. The crunch is a huge part of its appeal. People who purposefully drown perfectly good food, transforming it into soggy mush are bad people who should be treated badly.

          Cereal=Finger food. Y’all mafuckas need Jesus less liquid dairy, yo.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Dude, you don’t like Korean food and now you are proudly spouting nonsense about milk?

            Are you trying to out-UCS, UCS?

          2. Evan from Evansville

            Why would any grown man ever need milk outside of a sauce or some drink with hooch in it?

            Honest part of the “problem”–I find the taste of bland cornflakes to be a very subtle and pleasurable taste. I’m a supertaster. I can literally eat one flake at a time and relish it.

            I’m much more food adventurous that UCS is, I reckon, but to me a lot of it is just about simplicity and enjoying what you have. Spicy is the only thing that I don’t really like. I have far, far more problems with texture in my food than with taste.

            The wrong texture (chewy that doesn’t break down/cartilage) will make me gag immediately.

          3. You’re a strange motherfucker, do you know that?

            Milk is delicious.

          4. Evan from Evansville

            I don’t have as visceral a hatred of it as I used to, true. My real quibble is that cereal shouldn’t be served in milk. It’s stoopid. Why deprive the cereal of its signature characteristic?

            Of all the things that I’ve said or done, ‘not being a milk enthusiast’ is an odd one to break the camel’s back.

            I’ve done…things.

          5. I suppose cheese is right out too? *squints suspiciously*

          6. Tejicano

            Don’t know about you but I have between 0600 and 0615 to get some sustenance in my gut to tide me through to noon or so. I would so love to be able to sit and relish every morsel that passes my lips but time and tide wait for no man. Getting some protein in with all that carbo is about as close as I can get to balance in the time allowed.

          7. Evan from Evansville

            This rind, this cheese– it’s a part of our past, Swiss. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh… people will come Swiss. People will most definitely come.

            Cheese is life. Milk (largely) is unfinished cheese.

          8. Evan from Evansville

            @Tejicano: Drink the milk in a glass. Eat the cereal using your fingers as shovels.

            It’s the combining of the two that bothers me.

            ***Disclaimer: I have outed myself as a very slow eater before. I eat like a bird, nibbling at shit all day at work, pretty much never stopping.

            I have an incredible oral fixation. My nails are a wreck. (Yes, yes. On the giving end of that as well. )

          9. A Leap at the Wheel

            Why would any grown man ever need milk outside of a sauce or some drink with hooch in it?

            ITS NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK I NEED. WHAT PART OF SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND. OH ALSO WHEN YOU SAY NOONE NEEDS A GALLON OF MILK A DAY, LOOK WHAT THIS GUY DID WHEN FIVE GAINSGOBLINS BROKE INTO HIS HOUSE.

            FUCK OFF SLAVER!!

          10. MikeS

            As we speak, I, a “grown” man, am having a bowl of Fruity Pebbles with almond juice (milk) on it. Where does this lie on your gross food pyramid?

          11. DrOtto

            What do I drink with my cookies then? I’ve tried it with beer, you don’t want to be in the same room with me 15 minutes later.

          12. DrOtto

            Clark Griswold was working on a non-nutritive cereal varnish for the crunch issue.

          13. Evan from Evansville

            Why would you ruin Fruity Pebbles by milking-down and adulterating an otherwise fine and delicious product?

            Just put them in a ziplock and munch away at them all day. The milk goes in the glass.

            Also a reality–the proper way to eat Reese’s is to eat the corrugated sides first, then shave off the top and bottom chocolate bits. Left with a solid ball of pure cocaine, you put it in your cheek and let it slowly dissolve, filling your mouth with goodness for minutes.

            A similar tactic is useful when eating Oreos, but I highly recommend discipline: Take apart several of them and mash the filling together, leaving you with a lump of cream that can be stored in your cheek for a similar amount of time.

            I am going to be pilloried for this. But thus it is so.

          14. blackjack

            I have no problem with people having distinct and individual tastes. I do not suffer them pontificating to others in defense of them. I HATE fish. I flatly don’t eat it. I would never insinuate that anyone else should follow my lead.

          15. Evan from Evansville

            @Blackjack

            It should be patently clear that I don’t give a damn how other people eat their food or have their own tastes. I hate Korean food but don’t care if you love it. You do you.

            I just think that they are patently wrong and that they should know so. 🙂

            Then they should tell me that I’m wrong and we all have a laugh about it and go on our merry way.

            And then have sex.

          16. MikeS

            Hahaha…well, that was fun Evan. I’ll be merrily going now.

            No, Evan. There will be no sex.

    3. Fourscore

      Good thing, Jimbo, if in fact you did stop growing physically in 6th grade. At least your sense of humor/brilliance continues on to this day, for which we are all enriched. Happy New Year.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I went from being the biggest kid in my class (there were 3 guys taller but they were bean poles) at 5′ 10″ to maybe the 30th or so. One of the “achievements” I am proud of is that no one ever came looking to beat my ass later because I bullied them when I was the big kid.

        1. You were a bully?

          *begins search effort*

          **looks for brass knuckles**

          1. Pope Jimbo

            No. I was trying to say that I wasn’t a bully (the proof of which is that no ex-victim ever tried to get some back later when they grew up).

    4. So Pope Jimbo is Gary Coleman?

  11. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Pet Peeves: Holiday cards with glitter on them. That shit gets all over my desk.

    1. Raphael

      *proceeds to order and send a glitter bomb to Scruffy*

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        *submits Raphael to ICC for violations of the Geneva Convention*

        1. Raphael

          I’ve always wanted to be hunted down by the ICC.

          1. Genf is overrated. And really, expensive.

    2. Mojeaux

      Glitter is the herpes of craft supplies.

    3. straffinrun

      I send my nieces cards with glitter on them. They always ask, “Who’s Gary?”

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        *tapers stare*

      2. *fiercely narrows gaze*

    4. Slammer

      Engineer designs glitter bomb with fart spray for package thieves.

      (turns out some of the thieves were hired actors, but it’s still a cool vidya)

      1. leon

        Here is the thing that pisses me off about him hiring actors. He has another video about how someone faked creating a hover device for their phone. He calls that other Youtuber a fraud because he links to parts on amazon to make it which are affiliate links. He also has videos calling out carnival games as fraudulent. But it’s okay when he does it I guess.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          If you expand the video description he explains what happened and has cut the video that had actors in it. Seems pretty decent.

          Agree with you Leon though, that he went after a dude making a fake video and he ends up with something suspect, it leaves a bad feeling.

  12. Pope Jimbo

    I’m sure if Sloopy was doing the morning links he would for sure have added some sportsball links. Especially ones that talk about the dominating performance of THE U of M Golden Rodents

    Ski-U-Mah!

    1. I would definitely have.

      I would have also brought up the fact that TTUN hasn’t beaten The Ohio State Iniversity in football in 2588 days.

  13. Evan from Evansville

    One. More. Day. Left. Seven more classes.

    The 6-month+ endless panic attack is about to end.

    I wonder just how awkward it will be when I just take the stairs at the end of the day (instead of the elevator) with the other teachers and just bounce. I’m not even sure I want to shake hands with the boss. I guess I should extend that tiny courtesy. They still have my bonus to pay me.

    I’m going to go out on a limb and assume that I will not be banging my head teacher. I’m not gonna need quite the Christmas Miracle for that to transpire.

    1. Raphael

      Good luck on your last day, man.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Is this your head teacher? If so, we’re all pulling for you.

      1. Slammer

        I’m “Pulling” it to that gif later

      2. Raphael

        I’ll be in my bunk.

      3. Evan from Evansville

        Hrm. I’d rather fuck my head teacher.

        Certainly isn’t that hot, but there’s the personal component to it now. It’s serious.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Now we must have pics.

          1. Evan from Evansville

            I might have been unclear.

            My boss, while being very cute, is not nearly as hot as that fine specimen. However, because of personal issues, she has become my White Whale, and I honestly would rather fuck her than said red-dressed bombshell.

          2. Wait, Amy Schumer works at your school? I’m confused.

          3. Raphael

            Now I got beer all over my monitor. Thanks, good sir!

          4. Evan from Evansville

            My Korean head teacher isn’t white.

            You are being silly, sir!

          5. Evan from Evansville

            NOR IS SHE A WHALE!

            DAMMIT!

          6. Tejicano

            But she teaches head, or how to do it… because she’s a head teacher… please explain

          7. Evan from Evansville

            She’s the top-ranked teacher at the school. There’s the Boss and the Boss’ wife, who run the business end, and she runs the teaching end.

            Think of her as the bench coach to the manager in the dugout.

            I’m saying that I’d be glad to give her a performance review concerning her head-giving abilities.

            You silly goose.

          8. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Doesn’t matter. We must judge.

          9. Tejicano

            Ready your harpoon Cap’n Ahab.

          10. Sean

            Ready your harpoon Cap’n Ahab.

            Euphemism ahoy!

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Fucking kids today! Head teacher? In my day we had to learn all about that shit on our own in the back seat of a car.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Fucking kids today!

        What, was it different diddling them back in the day, old man?

      2. Fourscore

        Sex is best learned in the gutter, through misinformation. If it was good enough for us, by golly, its good enough for the rest of humanity. Car? you had a car? Try a bike with balloon tires and no fenders. Kids today, anyway.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    There’s no special reason for humans to drink milk after weaning.

    It’s delicious. That’s reason enough for me.

    1. Pat

      I will always defend with my dying breath your right to say outrageous things.

      Now, if you turn it into cheese…

    2. Mojeaux

      My sinus object strenuously to milk, as do my innards. However, it IS delicious.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      As a kid we used to get our milk directly from our neighbor. We’d bring our 3 gallon container to his house and get it right out of the pasteurizer. After it sat over night, Mom would skim the cream off the top.

      To my ever lasting shame, I was so happy when we moved to town and started buying milk from the store because it was like the milk all my friends had at their house and didn’t have all those cream clots like our old “country” milk had.

      The tragedy of our times is how hard it is to get whole milk now. Fucking choices are usually 2% or skim (aka chalk water).

      1. Suthenboy

        It isnt hard to get whole milk around here. Also, pretty rural area and you can buy raw milk without too much trouble. I dont bother, I just buy whole. I am also fond of putting a couple of scoops of ice cream in a big glass and filling it with milk.
        Where are you that you cant get whole milk?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          You can get whole milk at the store pretty easily. But if you are traveling for work, I can guarantee that your options at the hotel will be skim or 2%. Same at most restaurants.

          The food crazies who spent decades terrorizing us with tales of horror when it comes to fat have pushed whole milk into the fringes.

          1. Chipwooder

            This is true. We were just in a hotel for several days while visiting my wife’s family for Christmas, and skim and 2% was all they had at the complimentary breakfast.

          2. blackjack

            I used to enjoy mint and chip shakes from Baskin Robbins, but about 15 years ago they switched to low/non fat milk and now they suck. They don’t even have whole milk on the premises. It’s a fucking shake. Nobody is drinking it hoping to lose weight.

          3. But if you are traveling for work

            Unless you are in Switzerland.

    4. Tejicano

      Next you’ll be telling me I shouldn’t be playing with a woman’s mammaries after I’ve been weaned.

      FIX BAYONETS!!!

  15. Nephilium

    Off topic, I now have joined the masses who have a sous vide stick. Today will be the first test run of it on a pork tenderloin for dinner.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      I love my sous vide cooker. It simplifies the cooking so much.

      The best thing about it though is the impact it has had on my marriage. In the olden days I would ask my wife how long she needed to throw together a salad and cook the veggies. Then I would start grilling the meat at the appropriate time. When the grilling was done I would come in and find that my wife hadn’t started her cooking yet, or had gotten distracted. So there would be friction as we ate cold food.

      With sous vide, you only have to sear it when you are about 10 minutes from eating and you can’t overcook it. So now I can start when I see with my own eyes that the rest of the food is ready to go.
      .

    2. Not Adahn

      Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

    3. A Leap at the Wheel

      On the one hand that’s great, you will make many delicious meals with it. On the other hand, you have to be careful with how much you talk it up. You don’t want your GF realizing how much simpler her life has become because she’s replaced your careful exertions with a simple electric-powered cylinder that’s the length of her forearm and just about one hand’s grip in diameter.

      1. mindyourbusiness

        What you did there…

  16. Rebel Scum

    Always good to wait for all the facts to come out before outraging.

    But then I can’t blame Drumpf for all ills in the world. Also, I did find it particularly mendacious when some in the media were trying to pin what is a decision for doctors on the Border Patrol agents with regard to this kid that died.

    1. Tejicano

      No shyte. Having grown up and lived much of my life while in the US right on the border I know that few people grasp what a wasteland much of the border is – and it is that way for hundreds of miles approaching from north or south. Any purported parent who would bring a child under the age of 15 through that stretch of desert has to own whatever outcome happens. The Border Patrol has no responsibility in that outcome.

  17. straffinrun

    Maybe covered, but…‘Having a penis and competing as a woman is not fair’: Navratilova inflames transgender fury

    Following an avalanche of criticism the former tennis great apologized for her tweet promising to “educate herself on this issue.”

    1. Pat

      Following an avalanche of criticism the former tennis great apologized for her tweet promising to “educate herself on this issue.”

      I hope she comes back about a week from now and tweets something along the lines of “Yeah, so I purchased a high school biology textbook and it turns out I was right. Get fucked”

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s more likely her sponsors called.

    2. Raphael

      NEVER APOLOGIZE. Again, one day, just one day, somebody will learn.

      1. straffinrun

        I certainly would love to watch Martina educating herself about penises.

        1. Raphael

          #metoo

    3. Suthenboy

      Oh FFS. When will people learn. NEVER APOLOGIZE.

      1. Suthenboy

        What is really funny about this story are all the jokes going back forever about Navratilova.

        “What does Martina and tennis have in common?”
        A- “Fuzzy balls”

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The side bar contained a link to some twitter uproar about this.

      I’ll be in my bunker.

    5. BakedPenguin
    6. Rhywun

      Navratilova’s opinion on the topic came as a shock to many, as being an open lesbian herself the tennis star has always been a LGBT rights campaigner.

      I don’t know about “always”, but I believe it started well before the “T” latched itself onto that collection of identities.

    7. Rebel Scum

      ‘Having a penis and competing as a woman is not fair’

      Correct.

      avalanche of criticism

      Get bent.

  18. Pat

    UPS Settles Religious Discrimination Suit With EEOC for $4.9 Million

    UPS and the Buffalo office of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission have agreed to a $4.9 million settlement over a religious discrimination lawsuit.

    The EEOC had contended that since at least 2005 UPS discriminated against employees who had beards or long hair in accordance to their religious beliefs by not hiring them or giving them non-supervisory or “back-of-the-facility” positions where they would not have contact with customers, according to a release.

    A UPS rule prohibits male employees who contact customers from having beards or facial hair below collar length, the EEOC said. Doing so for individuals whose religious beliefs conflict with the policy violates the federal Civil Rights Act, the EEOC said.

    1. straffinrun

      “(The company) is proud of the diversity of its workforce and does not tolerate discrimination of any kind.”

      Really? No discrimination of any kind?

      1. They hire serial killers and rapists all the time.

    2. leon

      The EEOC is going to distribute that money to the “victims” right…?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        If by “victims” you mean Democratic crony organizations like the SPLC and Common Dreams, then yes.

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      My religion dictates that I do nothing but surf Glibs from 8am to 4:30pm.

      1. Banjos

        I didn’t know you were a civil servant.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Piker. My religion has 52 venerated saints that require followers to take off each Monday to celebrate (provided they are up to date on their tithing).

        I also have a very open approach to adding new religious duties (like taking a nap after lunch), although the religious research for special dispensations like that does cost extra.

        1. MikeS

          What does 3 pieces of lefse, 1 krumkake, and a half drank pint of HotDamn get me?

          1. Pope Jimbo

            I’ll absolve you of one venal sin for that.

            It would be more, except I’m going to have to waste a bunch of time wiping all that NoDak snuse drool off the HotDamn.

            If you want absolution for a mortal sin you are going to have to pony up some lutefisk.

          2. Tulip

            I thought lutefisk was the penance, like wearing a hair shirt

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Government Shutdown, Day Six

    “Got to the entrance of Yellowstone this morning, and there was nobody there at the booth to take my money. The animals have all escaped their cages and are wandering around loose. There is some sort of massive plumbing leak which shoots water a hundred feet into the air. The roads have not been plowed. It’s horrific.”

    1. Raphael

      It’s missing all the dead and/or starving children on the streets and buildings aflame.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      I saw some story yesterday that I hate read that was nothing but govt workers and contractors wailing about how hard their lives were because they had no cash reserves.

      Don’t know about the rest of the country, but the story had the reverse effect on me. I went from not caring to hoping that they all died of starvation before they were able to go back to work and get their back pay.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Sounds like the government moochers could spend some of their time off attending a Dave Ramsey seminar on personal finance.

        Maybe you shouldn’t buy the 600,000 house huh?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          The worst were the stories about them having to work extra shifts at a bookstore! Imagine the horrors of standing in a quiet store for hours on end.

          So instead of getting a completely free vacation, these cash poor fucks have to work shifts at odd jobs. I’m sure they will learn from this and when that back pay comes in they will put it into a savings account or pay off some debt.

          1. Fourscore

            ” having to work extra shifts at a bookstore!”

            Outrageous ! having to work. extra. shifts. in a bookstore.

            You don’t know what its like having to deal with smart, educated people that want to talk about literature and stuff. So there.

      2. Rebel Scum

        they had no cash reserves.

        That’s their own fault. And I find it unlikely that none of these people have credit cards. They are going to be paid for this time off eventually.

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        They did this back in 93 as well. It was a formative moment in my politics when I listened to a 17 year veteran of the IRS claim he couldn’t go two weeks with deferred pay. The media outlets didn’t seem to get how unsympathetic the stories were then either.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Yet, the Hopkins School of Public Health will continue to agitate for gun control. For such a great organization, my alma mater can be quite the bag of assholes.

    2. leon

      And i thought the Leftisist “Fucking Loved” Science.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Linked all fooked oops.

  20. wdalasio

    An old commentary from my Facebook feed holds up pretty well

    In a recent commentary, Jessica Valenti, a semi-prominent feminist blogger argued:

    “I bet even Mrs Claus gets upset that Santa works one night a year but she’s dealing with hungry elves 24/7.”

    Let me see if I can clarify a few things here. No, Mrs. Claus isn’t particularly upset.

    You see, she understands that Santa Claus doesn’t just work one night a year – a night, mind you, where he has to defy the laws of physics to adequately execute. She understands that he also manages and oversees the production of presents for billions of children – everything from toys to clothes to consumer electronics to book publishing – the absolute largest manufacturing operation on the planet, while simultaneously managing and overseeing probably the world’s largest communications network and running an intelligence system that would make the CIA and the NSA combined look like a minor operation. Oh, and did I mention defying the laws of physics?

    On top of that, I’m willing to bet Mrs. Claus understands that Santa is doing all of this out of a sense of kindness and charity. A kindness and charity she gets to share in. She probably understands that, if Santa is the public face of the Claus enterprise, it’s a role he takes on as a responsibility in furtherance of that kindness and charity and not just an absurd ego gratification that Valenti seems to think positions are supposed to be.

    You see, Mrs. Claus, unlike Jessica Valenti, understands that not all of life is about her.

    1. Evan from Evansville

      Gold.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    PWNED!

    Acclaimed CBS News anchor Dan Rather invoked a recent presidential faux pas to criticize President Donald Trump’s stance on climate change.

    Trump spoke with a 7-year-old on Christmas Eve, asking the young child, “Are you still a believer in Santa? ’Cause at 7, it’s marginal, right?”

    Rather repeated Trump’s language when lashing out at the U.S. leader on Twitter on Tuesday.

    “Just a thought: Which should be considered more ‘marginal’ – believing in Santa at age 7 or not believing in climate change at age 72?” the journalist wrote on Tuesday.

    That’s “notorious liar” Dan Rather, if you don’t mind.

    I’m surprised he didn’t bring up der Drumpfenfuhrer’s draft deferment.

    1. Pat

      Hey, just a thought Dan: Which should be considered more ‘marginal’ – not believing in climate change at age 72 or believing in the Killian documents at age 73?

  22. Rebel Scum

    As attorney general of California, Harris challenged the release of a man who had been exonerated by the Innocence Project and had his conviction overturned. Harris argued that Daniel Larsen, who spent 13 years in prison for the crime of possessing a concealed knife, had not produced evidence of his innocence fast enough.

    Two things:
    1) How the fuck is that a crime? And why the fuck is the sentence that long?
    2) What an evil cunt.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      had not produced evidence of his innocence fast enough

      I’m not sure how anyone can possibly use that as a justification for the continuation of an unwarranted prison term. It’s fairly mind boggling.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      The story said (I know I am such a sissy for reading it) that the knife violation was his third strike. So they teed him up for a 27 year bit in the joint as a habitual offender.

    3. MikeS

      From the same article:

      Harris also wanted to threaten the parents of truants with jail time. Truancy in California is defined as having three unexcused absences or being late to school by 30 minutes three times in one school year. “We take this matter very seriously,” she told lawmakers. “A child going without an education is tantamount to a crime.”

      1. Holy shit, Cali; late 3 times all year is truant? Authoritarian much?
      2. Yes, missing first period 3 times is up their with robbery and assault. Assholes.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I was a super truant according to those rules. At least I learned how to cover my tracks and get away with it.

        A friend of ours went on a long vacation to the South Pacific and Hawaii (some was work related, but mostly vacation). They had to split it out over the new year so their kids would only miss so much school in a given year. Just hearing his story about it made my blood boil. How the school thinks that your kids belong to them makes me crazy.

      2. Rebel Scum

        “A child going without an education is tantamount to a crime.”

        Tantamount mean it is not. And if it is then you better lock up everyone associated with CA public education.

        Jokes aside, this is authoritarian as fuck.

  23. Pat

    Are Most Men Sexist? The Data Says Yes Even if They Say No.

    It’s easy to say that not all men are sexist. That’s surely true and also beside the point. The more difficult question is about most men. Do they have sexist attitudes and, if so, do they know it? Social scientists have found over the last few decades that even avowed male feminists often believe that women are better suited for nurturing roles or poorly cut out for leadership. Do most men expect women to make dinner or to get away with sexual harassment? No. But that doesn’t mean that sexism is dead. It means that sexism is obscured.

    In an effort to understand how sexism persists and how it informs male behavior — including the behavior of dads — Fatherly ran the numbers. Here’s what we found.

    Spoiler: even under the most generous interpretation they found that a minority of men held what they considered to be sexist viewpoints belying their own headline.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      fatherly.com?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Fatherly is the leading digital media brand for dads. Our mission is to empower men to raise great kids and lead more fulfilling adult lives. From original video series and deep dive reports to podcasts and events, Fatherly offers original reporting, expert parenting advice, and hard-won insights into a challenging, but profoundly rewarding stage of life.

        Googling the first author I see, it’s this guy. Yeah, I’m getting my parenting advice from a tatted hipster with a hedgehog.

        1. leon

          As we all know the people who give the best parenting advice are the ones not qualified to raise themselves.

        2. Evan from Evansville

          WOW.

          That picture….really checks all of the boxes, doesn’t it?

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            looks a lot like DoomCo

        3. It’s like asking for tire changing tips from…nevermind.

        4. Hipster Bob Saget!

    2. leon

      “believe that women are better suited for nurturing roles”

      Here’s the problem with “Femenisim” these days They are totally in the Nurture camp when it comes to this but then when we talk about gender identity they are in the Nature camp. You can’t have it both ways.

    3. Raphael

      It means that sexism is obscured

      What the hell does that mean? Is this like implicit racism where it’s pretty much BS pseudo-psychological level stuff?

      1. Suthenboy

        It means you are irredeemable. Original sin stains you forever. Now, do as you are told.

    4. Suthenboy

      Anyone who has been around dogs knows that the overriding motive for everything they do is about pecking order. Who tells who what to do. The primitive human is exactly the same. None of these issues are what they purport to be. Not feminism, gun control, racism, equality, religion, whatever. The issue is control. This is the fundamental difference with liberty minded people. If every person has inalienable rights then there is no pecking order. This is where we run afoul of the rest of humanity. They dont understand us and we cant stomach their constant attempts to control.

      I have started day drinking so I am not sure if that makes any sense. I cant even leave here and watch TV because the weather knocked it out.

      1. Lachowsky

        I agree with your point about dogs

        RE: weather

        We had a downpour that is worthy of spring proportions come in about 10 last night that lasted about 6 hours. On my way home from work this morning, the creeks were up at spring time level highs and the low water bridges were underwater.

        Also, the lighting that accompanied this rain knocked out the main 161kv power feed into my plant last night. In the pouring rain at about eleven o’clock last night, I was in the switchyard replacing a 250kv rated MOV so that I could reset the breaker that fed power to my plant.

        After that, I got to go relight 3 heat furnaces, 1 billet reheat furnace, 7 cooling water systems, cycle off 4 diesel generators and throw the transfer switches back into plant feed power mode, replace two uninterrupted power supply modules that failed to supply uninterrupted power, and find and reset 3 MCC feeders that tripped when too many motors came back online upon power restoration for the feeder to feed.

        Probably mostly jibberish above, it I swear I ain’t described the half of it. Power outages in large industrial facilities are a bad deal.

        1. Not Adahn

          We have some kind of ungodly large UPS here consisting of one of those flywheels that causes mysterious illnesses to everyone within 3 miles to keep things running until the generators are up to full.

          They were doing a switch changeover, and managed to bring the whole UPS down, while keeping normal power unaffected.

          1. Lachowsky

            Back up generators that store momentary energy in a flywheel are cool as fuck.

            The idea is-

            We want uninterepted power. When the electricity from the grid quits, it takes a few seconds for a diesel generator to start up and begin supplying power. However, if the diesel generator is already turning and has an amount of stores energy stored on the flywheel, then when the transfer switch flips over to the generator power, then you dont lose any power while the engine starts.

            Flywheels are cool as fuck.

            Ask me about how a 1952 model john deer square baler generates enough energy to cut a 18in×12in block of compacted hay without slowing down the packing and feeding mechanism at all.

          2. MikeS

            So then there’s a small electric motor to keep the flywheel turning at all times? I get how/why it works, just unclear on what it looks like. I don’t recall ever seeing a system with a flywheel on it.

          3. A Leap at the Wheel

            Should be on the end of the crankshaft, I believe.

          4. Lachowsky

            Yes. A small electric motor with a softstart system is used to get the fly wheel going. If the main generator ever kicks on, then the power is. It to that motor.

            Ankther benefit to having the flywheel running the engine all the time is that it keeps the engine healthy. An internal combustion engine that sits for long periods of time will developed problems.

            No oil on the piston seals, is the big one.

            If that engine sits there running all the time without combusting any fuel in its pistons, then it will remain lubricated without putting any stress on the engine.

            This makes for a more reliable engine that is only needed every once in a great while.

            It also keeps rust off the valves and pumps fuel through the system and through the filter, mitigating problems associated with particulate condensation in fuel tanks.

          5. Not Adahn

            I haven’t actually seen mine, just the huge concrete building it’s kept in. And all the berms, walls and sand pits that are supposed to prevent nearby residents from complaining.

          6. blackjack

            Yes. Another benefit is that flywheels smooth the power pulses, whether it’s accelerating or decelerating. A rapid start with power applied early can overcome the oil film in the bearings and damage them.

        2. Suthenboy

          We have a problem here. The river is up. The bayou consequently is up pretty high and now we are getting drowned in rain. I mean the bottom is really falling out. It is supposed to go all day. The Suthen house is on a high hill but not all of my neighbors are so lucky. I half expect to be buying and hauling cases of Dinty Moore beef stew to the local shelter soon.

          1. MikeS

            There’s some massive weather that stretches from you all the way up to me. We’re getting a blizzard out of it up here. Be safe down there.

          2. Fourscore

            Hi Mike, about 5 inches of snow, another 4-5 predicted. No wind, not a blizzard type, just that slow, methodical small flaked stuff that accumulates over time. Medium weight, temps in the 20s. I shoveled off the patio and a spot to feed the critters, I’ll wait ’til it finishes to run the snow blower and clear the yard.

          3. Tundra

            That doesn’t sound too bad.

            We got the sloppy, 50lb-per-shovelfull shit overnight. Now it’s raining.

            Yuck.

          4. MikeS

            I’d say we got around 4″. Tough to say for sure since we had some wind with it overnight so there is some drifting. There’s a 3 footer in front of the garage. Wind is starting to pick up; about 20 mph right now. Supposed to see gusts up to 50mph this afternoon, but not much new snow. If the forecast holds up, it’ll be a ground blizzard as light as this snow is.

            I said the hell with it and stayed home today. (I have an hour drive in good weather). Tomorrow once the winds subsides a bit I’ll start digging out.

            Stay warm!

          5. Tundra

            Good luck to both of you!

          6. MikeS

            Thanks Tundra. Hopefully the rain washes all the snow away, and it stays warm enough to not turn to ice.

          7. A Leap at the Wheel

            I am praying that is rains enough that I don’t have to shove anything by the time I get home from work.
            *fingers crossed*

      2. Tejicano

        All perfect sense.

        Humans and canines are symbiotic species. We evolved together and share some traits. One of the problems is that a number of humans want to look on other humans as canines.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Winter Storm “Eboni”?

    SRSLY?

    1. Rebel Scum

      Yea, should be spelled with a ‘y’.

    2. Don Escaped Texas

      Efghi

      1. Lachowsky

        Hey don, look upthread a bit an critique my opinion of flywheel maintained industrial generators.

        I know that you know about stuff like that, probably better than I do.

      2. Rhywun

        Abcde’s brother?

    3. MikeS

      Watch out for the black ice, or as I like to call it, Ivoree.

        1. MikeS

          That’s a great bit. One of their best.

        2. My wife’s gay friend liked to say his car smelled like “black guys”

          He just had an air freshener that was called “Black Ice” and that’s the way he pronounced it.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Fatherly is the leading digital media brand for dads. Our mission is to empower men to raise great kids and lead more fulfilling adult lives.

    *poorly muffled laughter*

  26. straffinrun

    Saudi Arabia reshuffles Council of Ministers

    Sultan bin Salman has been moved from the presidency of the Tourism Authority and appointed as Chairman of the Space Authority, which was established under the name of Saudi Space Authority. The Authority shall have a Board of Directors appointed by Royal Order.

    1. Lachowsky

      #governmentmakework

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Shit, they subscribe to the theory that another group in my company subscribes to. It’s not that we have the wrong people in management positions it’s that they don’t have the correct title after their. When we shift the engineering manager to the manufacturing manager and the manufacturing to the general and the general to the engineering everything will be smooth sailing.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    had not produced evidence of his innocence fast enough

    By all means, let’s put Kamala “PROVE YOUR INNOCENCE” Harris in the White House, where she will be charged with a Presidential duty to “preserve protect, and defend the Constitution”.

    1. MikeS

      As long as you do it quickly enough, what’s the problem?

  28. Rhywun

    It was during the several minutes long exchange that the teen captured the alleged assault on Snapchat

    So he got drunk, chatted up Spacey all night, and then had the presence of mind to stretch his arm twelve feet away in order to capture the “rape”. I can’t be the only one that finds this story a tad unbelievable.

    1. MikeS

      And then his mother (Would, MA), a retired news anchor who is now in the documentary business, runs point on the story.

      1. Chipwooder

        Looked up the mother given your comment, and yeah, also would

    2. blackjack

      The camera explains why he couldn’t just push Spacey’s hands away, like a normal person. I guess the show must go on…

      Look ma, I’m getting molested by a celebrity!

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Eek

    A Georgia man who worked as a Walmart Santa Claus was arrested after the remains of his teen children were found buried in his backyard, authorities revealed.

    Maybe John Wayne Gacy was his role model.

    1. No, no! That is for clowns, not Santa!

  30. Lachowsky

    Oldest running annual joke between lachowsky and his brothers. It’s a question we all ask one another only on Christmas day.

    Q. Why do the cops have to work on Christmas?

    A. Because their families hate them.

    Year after year, it never gets old.

    *EDIT FAIRY BLESSES YOU*

    1. Evan from Evansville

      How does one go about ‘hatting’ another?

      Tis such a strange place, I’ve stumbled upon.

      *EDIT FAIRY PUNKS YOU*

      1. Lachowsky

        Was supposed to say hate. Fucking typos ruin everything.

        *BUT IT DOES, THANKS TO EDIT FAIRY*

          1. Lachowsky

            All good jokes have a basis in truth

    2. Nephilium

      My brother-in-law is a firefighter, and he enjoys telling the story of when some cops stopped by the firehouse for something, and were surprised they were eating cookies given to them by the public. My BIL responded, “When we deal with the public, they’re usually happy we were there.”

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        My cub scouts sell popcorn as a fundraiser. One option is for people to pay for their popcorn* and have it donated to “Hometown Heroes,” which are firefighters, cops, and military. Each pack decides how to distribute it themselves. I always wonder what the mix of donations are, especially broken by political tribe…

        *at like $20 a bag, everyone knows its more of a $20 donation with a $3 bag of thank you in exchange.

        1. MikeS

          I bought some microwave popcorn from my nephew. I don’t mind overpaying, like you said, I know it’s a donation with a thank you gift. However, the frustrating part was that when I got it, the bags are only about 2/3 the size of normal microwave popcorn. Just make them the proper size and charge more, or put less in the box. Making something smaller than the expected size is only a good way to irritate people.

          /steps off soap box

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Yeah, I’m really not a fan of the popcorn set up. But we do very, very well with it and it doesn’t seem to be doing anything bad to our goodwill, so I’m loathe to change.

            And I never noticed this problem because we either get the whole kernels and pop it in a pot, or we get the flavored stuff. But good to know.

          2. MikeS

            Yeah, it didn’t bother me near as much as my comment would suggest. It’s for a good cause and I’ll do it a gain next year. I’ll just need to remember the proper amount of time in the microwave. *anger rises*

            It’s nice having 1st World problems, isn’t it?

        2. Should only be families of those killed – firefighters first, military second…no cops who get in traffic accidents.

      2. Suthenboy

        In reality keep in mind that the vast majority of people the cops interact with are not having their best day. That will jade the best of people. Couple that with that the kinds of people attracted to police work and you have a recipe for trouble.
        I have worked in a police dept. and I grew up with a lot of guys who became cops. You get two kinds: solid gold and psychopaths.
        Like any group of people it isnt fair to generalize.

        1. Lachowsky

          I disagree.

          The vast majority of people cops interact with are committing traffic violations.

          And I have always hear of the myth of the solid gold cop.

          I’m not convinced. A solid gold cop would spend all his time rooting out and exposing the shittiness of the others in his department.

          Since this type of solid gold cop doesn’t exist, I paint them all with a broad brush.

          1. Suthenboy

            Given your experiences I am not going to ask you to believe me instead of your lying eyes. I remember the video of you getting hassled and your story about your friend being shot.
            I know some good ones. I know a lot of bad ones. The ones in between dont last long as cops. I might be biased based on the area I live in. Everyone knows everyone. Deputies here in LA work at the pleasure of the Sheriff. Our constitution reads “The Sheriff is the chief law enforcement officer and chief tax collector.” <—notice the period. No exception is made for municipal cops or the state police or the Feds. There is no union and the Sheriff is elected. Deputies tend to tow the line here because their job is to campaign for the Sheriff all of the time every day. In a parish with 15K people every vote counts. Hell, most of the elections here are won by double digits. Our officials are accountable and they know it.

          2. Suthenboy

            A while back they had a Sheriff over in Lasalle parish that was a real law and order type. No tolerance. Two years in he had given traffic tickets to everyone in the parish and arrested their dogs too. He was catching a lot of shit over it. One day he walked into a police jury meeting and threw his badge at the board. “You can all go to hell!” he screamed at them. They all sat there with poker faces and said –

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA

        2. Rhywun

          Getting out of customer service was the smartest move I ever made (a couple decades ago). Dealing with one asshole after the other every day was turning me into a pretty unpleasant person.

        3. Nephilium

          Same thing for the firefighters and EMT folks. The difference is more people deal with the cops when they get a ticket or some other bullshit. I’ve only known a handful of people who got pissed at the fire inspector.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I’ve only known a handful of people who got pissed at the fire inspector.

            Add me to your handful.

    3. Lachowsky

      Police https://imgur.com/gallery/vdT7NUz

      That’s how it goes.

      Thanks for the edit, Swiss I presume

    4. Are you The Big Lachowsky?

  31. Scruffy Nerfherder

    So my website has a Contact Us submission form and I’ve been agitating for my provider to put a recaptcha on the page so I don’t get bombarded with spambots, but I got the strangest one yet today.

    Submitted on Thursday, December 27, 2018 – 9:41am
    Submitted by anonymous user: 89.249.65.21
    Submitted values are:

    Name: Westonkax
    E-mail Address: yourmail@gmail.com
    Company Name: WestonkaxPF
    Phone Number: 88616631242
    Message: Hello. And Bye.

    “Hello and Bye” Who spends the time and effort to run a spambot that doesn’t even offer me hot juicy Russian women in my town that are ready to get nasty?

    1. I would be careful…it is probably a scout of some sort!

      *flicks safety off of M-4*

  32. Rhywun

    Rape, however, is showing increased rates of 24 per cent mostly due to increased reporting in the era of #MeToo.

    RAPE UP 25% IN TRUMP’S AMERICA!

    /the hot take I expected

  33. Thot Thursday brining joy to those (like myself) stuck working when 95% of everyone else is still sleeping off their hangover.

    http://archive.is/DW2vj

    30 seems like she has a nice personality.

    1. Rasilio

      34’s shirt is an affront to all that is good in the world and I demand that she remove it immediately

    2. I. B. McGinty

      32 needs to clean the bathtub. And that’s not a euphemism.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t think they’re planning on finding a mate financier by virtue of their housekeeping skills.

      2. Suthenboy

        This perfectly illustrates something I mentioned a few days ago. Intimate life with a woman means seeing her shave her armpits in the shower, on her knees cleaning the bathtub, blow drying her hair just out of that shower naked, cooking in a t-shirt and panties, rubbing her feet in front of the TV at the end of the day and her drooling on you while she sleeps on your chest. There are a lot of men out there that for whatever reason dont have that so there is a whole niche of ‘porn’ that just involves that. It isnt even sexual. It is just about intimacy.

        1. I. B. McGinty

          “cooking in a t-shirt and panties”

          Is she cooking bacon in this fantasy?

        2. That’s all well and good, but that tub is gross.

  34. Rebel Scum

    Google approves app to report incidents of Islamic blasphemy

    Google has officially approved an app for use in Indonesia enabling blasphemy, including about homoseuxality, to be reported:

    A new Android app has launched with the focus of allowing Muslims to report individuals who commit blasphemy, or insult Islam.

    No, this is not a joke. The app, “Smart Pakem”, which launched in Indonesia last month at the request of the Indonesian government, will allow users and government officials to uphold Sharia law and target and report people who hold “misguided” beliefs in violation of Islamic law, which forbids insults of Islam, insults against the Prophet Mohammed, or the recognition of any other religion besides Islam.

    “Don’t be evil.”

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      queue angry mob to toss a homosexual off a roof in 3….2….1….

    2. Suthenboy

      I thought they changed it to “Don’t get caught.”

    3. leon

      So Google Collaborates with China to put down Muslim descent and Collaborates with Muslims in Indonesia to murder “blasphemers”. Seems like the one consistent principle is to stand with the people in power.

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’re going to get people killed with this one. Really a stupid move.

      1. I wish I knew a good class action plaintiff lawyer – I would get the referral…

    5. MikeS

      I have no doubt this is just a trial run for implementation in the US when the great revolution is upon us.

  35. Evan from Evansville

    Anyone have any knowledge of Metro Cnet? It’s a freelance writing/editing thing. Some people are saying it’s a scam and some saying that they just have really stringent standards and will reject pretty quickly. I have taken some side gigs with another content management company (did get paid and even interviewed with them, but I couldn’t start on time) and can confirm how stringent they are, so the comments this guy made seem in form for a business of this kind.

    Just checking. Thanks if anyone has any info.

  36. straffinrun

    Trump: ‘Most of the people not getting paid’ in shutdown are Democrats

    “Have the Democrats finally realized that we desperately need Border Security and a Wall on the Southern Border. Need to stop Drugs, Human Trafficking, Gang Members & Criminals from coming into our Country,” he tweeted.

    “Do the Dems realize that most of the people not getting paid are Democrats?” he added.

    1. Suthenboy

      Troll master of the universe.

    2. leon

      “Need to stop Drugs… from coming into our Country”

      Do you want GayJay to run for president? This is how you get GayJay to run again!

      1. MikeS

        No, no. You misunderstand. No imported drugs. We will make all our drugs in the USA. The best drugs! Classy drugs!

  37. ChipsnSalsa

    Will be watching They Shall Not Grow Old today with the wife today / night. Driving to the Dells (about an hour away) to watch it. It will be in 3D (neither of us have been) so we’ll see how that goes.

    Do I remember correctly of someone saying to stay till the credits are done as there is extra stuff at the end?

    1. leon

      Yes, (i haven’t seen it but i do remember others saying that there is extra stuff)

      1. LJW

        Blooper reel? Maybe the Kaiser falling down the stairs after getting of Luftwaffe Ein?

        1. MikeS

          That had me laughing more than is probably appropriate.

          1. dbleagle

            YES! Stay after the credits it is more than worth the 30 minutes of extra film. First off, they describe how they put together what you just watched which is fascinating in it’s own right. Second, almost off handily they show some of the most haunting images of the entire film.

  38. BakedPenguin

    I’ve been watching Hamilton’s Pharmacopoeia on Vice this morning. So far, South African Quaaludes, PCP, and Mushrooms. Fairly interesting show, even though it’s been years since I did drugs.

    1. Evan from Evansville

      So you’re not actually a baked penguin? Much disappoint.

      Oh. You could be a dish of some kind. I wonder what penguin tastes like.

      Jeremy Clarkson on QI on eating puffin. I love Clarkson and QI.

      1. BakedPenguin

        When I chose the handle at TOS in 2005 or so, I was very much a baked penguin.

  39. LJW

    I’m sitting here at the auto shop waiting for work to be done. Weather channel is on. Currently there is a guy “out in the field”, explaining snow drifts.Now he is explaining how snow plows plow snow. I wonder how much he gets paid?

    1. Time and a half, friendo!

  40. You think he’d might try to get in a little better shape if this is his hobby.

    https://nypost.com/2018/12/26/prolific-streaker-has-stripped-down-at-more-than-500-sporting-events/

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s part of the thrill.

  41. Enough About Palin

    “New York City goes six days without a murder.”

    That they know of…

    1. Drake

      I don’t get it. At my club meeting, the Legislative Officer gets up and talks about various ways Democrats are currently trying to infringe on our rights. Do these people cheer during that part of the meeting? Or make really pathetic excuses?

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        That is when the smoke starts coming out their ears as they try to square that circle. Government involvement bad, in this one specific instance. All other times it’s great!

        Maybe they just don’t talk about it and hope the conservative gun groups take care of the icky defending your rights stuff.

        1. Tundra

          Progressivism isn’t always permanent. My guess is that there are at least a few of those people who will eventually join us on the other side.

        2. Lackadaisical

          You three just don’t realize that common sense gun control necessarily means that good thinkers like them won’t be affected (too much). It’s just the wrong sort that shouldn’t have guns. Icky deplorables and mino… low income people who can’t afford all the taxes, permits and regulations.

  42. Drake

    I’ve been trying to watch Nightflyers. It doesn’t make any sense. A bunch of crazy people on the most poorly lit space ship ever with a captain who inherited his job from his crazy Mom who uploaded her crazy self into the ship’s computer. I think I’m supposed to be frightened but I just roll my eyes a lot.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It doesn’t get any better. By the end, I was watching it purely for the “WTF that’s stupid”.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    And I have always hear of the myth of the solid gold cop.

    I’m not convinced. A solid gold cop would spend all his time rooting out and exposing the shittiness of the others in his department.

    Since this type of solid gold cop doesn’t exist, I paint them all with a broad brush.

    That is my position, also. If the so-called good cops won’t expose and remove the bad cops, they’re all just bad cops.

    1. Drake

      I would agree with exception of some small-town departments where there really isn’t much shittiness to root out.

    2. Suthenboy

      Or they have given up tilting at windmills.

      1. The Last American Hero

        And decided to become another brick in the fat blue donut filled wall of silence?

    3. Suthenboy

      There is one other thing I would add: creating a financial incentive for the police to enforce the law is the worst idea I can imagine. Here in LA we made a huge difference by partially taking that away – local depts get to keep $2 from each traffic ticket they write if the offense is under 10mph over the limit, the rest is supposed to go to the state. It is impossible to overstate the change that has made. All of those local speed traps disappeared. A few bucked it to their peril. We have had a few chiefs and mayors go to jail over that. Yeah, I am looking at you Deridder and Washington. Good riddance.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Ankther benefit to having the flywheel running the engine all the time is that it keeps the engine healthy. An internal combustion engine that sits for long periods of time will developed problems.

    No oil on the piston seals, is the big one.

    If that engine sits there running all the time without combusting any fuel in its pistons, then it will remain lubricated without putting any stress on the engine.

    This makes for a more reliable engine that is only needed every once in a great while.

    It also keeps rust off the valves and pumps fuel through the system and through the filter, mitigating problems associated with particulate condensation in fuel tanks.

    Interesting. I did not know those motors are kept rotating. So it’s an air pump. Do/can you do anything with the air?

  45. Mojeaux

    I just got back from the big girl’s toy store also known as Harbor Freight, having escaped with spending only $12. I am superhuman.

    1. MikeS

      just got back from…Harbor Freight…spending only $12

      The only logical way that makes any sense is that you shoplifted twice that amount.

      1. Mojeaux

        Nope, I really did it. I wanted two specific things (big) and needed to see if the store had them or if I would have to order them. They had them, but since I can’t use them until after my pipe is fixed and my garage is cleared out, I decided to wait to get them.

        1. MikeS

          I commend you on your self control. You are a stronger woman than I…um…am a man…

          1. Mojeaux

            It is … POSSIBLE … that my husband MIGHT have given me the side-eye.

          2. MikeS

            This is why I try to never go there with my wife.

          3. MikeS

            My funny (or pathetic, depending on your point of view) story is that my local Harbor Freight opened up on my birthday this year. I was pumped that it was opening, and on my bday no less, and my dad and I went there to check it out and then had lunch afterwards. (He’s a big HF fan, too.) We spent an hour just walking around the store and talking. We’d already seen everything in there… we’ve been online as well as in another (bigger) HF in Fargo multiple times. The workers were giving us funny looks by the time we finally left. Haha.

            Good times.

    2. Suthenboy

      12 bucks at Harbor Freight? Now you are just telling stories.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        That’s only like 6 clamps. Doesn’t make any sense.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Twelve bucks at Harbor freight? What did you buy, nails for the nail gun?

    1. Mojeaux

      Blades for my oscillating tool.

      1. I. B. McGinty

        Did you use the 20% off coupon?

        1. Mojeaux

          Natch. But forgot my free stuff.

          1. I. B. McGinty

            I have more tape measures, screw drivers, flashlights, volt meters, and magnetic parts trays than I need thanks to those coupons.

          2. Mojeaux

            My son loses or breaks all my stuff. Since I’ve been laid up with my shoulder issues and other things, he’s had free run of my garage and now that I’m relatively healthy, I have to put it all back together again.

            This is what I want to get: https://www.harborfreight.com/74-Bin-Mobile-Double-Sided-Floor-Rack-62269.html

          3. MikeS

            I’ve been eying something like that, too.

            I got this for Christmas. ???

          4. Mojeaux

            Sweeeeeeeet!

  47. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of Harbor Freight, if this thread isn’t as dead as the Dodo: I got a little vise with a two way adjustable rotating head from them.

    This one. The thing is awesome. It’s clamped to the edge of my fab table. I use it constantly. Buy yourself one for xmas.

    1. Mojeaux

      Want.

    2. I. B. McGinty

      It’s on life support. ?

      If I didn’t already have a vise (my grandfather’s from the 1950s) I would probably buy one from them. I don’t think I have any thing from them that wasn’t a good value. Their $15 paint gun is great. I have several power and pneumatic tools that haven’t broke down with the occasional light use I give them.

    3. MikeS

      Adds to Harbor Freight “my list”

      While we are making suggestions; these mechanics gloves are absolutely unbeatable for the price. They last as long, if not longer, than all of the “good” brands I’ve tried, and they can be had for 50-75% less. If $5 is too much, watch for sales and coupons…they go as low as $3 IIRC.

    4. MikeS

      if this thread isn’t as dead as the Dodo

      The cool kids are here talking about Harbor Freight. The nerds are in the other thread talking lawyer shit.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Fuckin nerds.

        Also, there isn’t a shop worth its salt that isn’t stacked to the gills with those blue and grey clamps from HF.

        1. MikeS

          Oh, hey, Leap! Didn’t think you’d be back over here…

          *nervously looks away*

        2. Mojeaux

          Fuckin nerds.

          I resemble that remark.