Monday Morning Links

I am three and half days from vacation time even though mentally I’m already there.

 

 

After failing to produce the original 302 from Flynn’s first interview, many are speculating as to why.  Whatever happened to it, it does not bode well for Mueller considering who the judge is.  We’ll have to wait until Tuesday to find out what happens next.  The suspense is terrible, I hope it will last.

 

The real news here is we finally know their weakness.

 

 

Democrats mad, vow to get those dastardly Republican villains.

 

A split legislature is even more beautiful than I imagined.

 

Economic DOOM AND GLOOM!

 

You had me at “collapses” and “Santa Dangles”.

Insert your own meme.

 

 

Comey is back to testify again.

 

 

A video of almost two years of the media declaring the end for Trump.

 

 

That’s all I for today, here’s a song for ya’ll.

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449 responses to “Monday Morning Links”

  1. Old Man With Candy

    Wait, sloopy stuck you with these again??? Christ, what an asshole.

    1. AlexinCT

      How do you really feel about this brah?

    2. bacon-magic

      Banjos and SP are saints that deal with the Devils on a daily basis.

  2. CPRM

    “Robots Can’t Work In Cold Weather” Yeah, I saw Terminator 2 as well.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      MSP1 is a fairly new and heavily-roboticized factory, much like the facility on Staten Island, New York, where workers recently announced their intention to unionize with the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union (RWDSU). One worker at the Staten Island facility, in a protest outside New York’s City Hall last week, expressed concern over long shifts, non-functioning smoke detectors and sprinkler systems, and inhumane temperatures. “We have asked the company to provide air conditioning,” she explained to the crowd, “but they told us that the robots inside can’t work in the cold weather.”

      I call bullshit. The protestor, who obviously knows fuck all about robotics, is just making that up because they think it makes for a good protest soundbyte.

      1. CPRM

        Is this an old story, or is this person really complaining about air conditioning in the winter?

        1. Rasilio

          Meh in a lot of industrial buildings they generate so much heat with their operations that Air Conditioning is needed year round. I used to work in the Old Wang Labs HQ building in Lowell Ma and the A/C went out for a week in January, the temps outside never crossed 35f but the temperature inside the building was in the low 90’s because of the heat generated by all the lighting, computers, and people.

          That said I call bullshit on Amazon on this one because as far as I am aware pretty much everything from electronics to hydraulics and pneumatics works best somewhere between 50 and 75 degrees and once temps start crossing 90 at the very least some of the electronics start having issues.

          1. Lachowsky

            Ambient air in my plant is between 40 or so in the winter and 130+ in the summer. We keep the electronics in air conditioned motor control centers, but there are a lot of field devices that live in the heat and if they are rated for it, they hold up fine. The hydraulic units and air compressors survive just fine in the heat. We do run heat exchangers with cooling water on the hydraulic tanks, but the goal is to keep the fluid around 140 degrees or so.

            Most equipment can function just fine in heat if its built for it. The DC motors that are on our overhead meltshop cranes run just fine in temps that are regularly above 150 degrees.

          2. Rasilio

            My point was not that they could not run in the heat but rather the opposite, I have never heard of a system that functioned BETTER at say 90 degrees than it did at 70 degrees.

            Sure those robots could easily have problems if you were trying to operate them at 40 degrees maybe even 50 degrees but A/C systems for humans would be working to keep the temperature to somewhere between 70 and 75 degrees and I have never heard of a single system where an ambient temp of 72 would pose a problem for operation.

            The workers complaining about working conditions may be morons but the company is just as stupid if they think anyone is going to believe that bullshit line. They don’t want to install A/C because the robotic systems have no problem operating at 90 degrees and they don’t want to have to pay to cool a building that huge. It would have made far more sense to claim the reason for not installing a/c was the carbon footprint or some such nonsense.

          3. J. Frank Parnell

            Old Wang Labs HQ

            Isn’t that what OMWC calls his van?

      2. wdalasio

        OT with a bit of holiday silliness, I ran across the following comment with regard to Dickens’ A Christmas Carol,

        It’s a chilling cautionary tale of an admirably sound business man who was overcome by mawkish sentimentality.

        My response is as follows,

        That’s just what Mr. Scrooge would want you to think. The proper way to see A Christmas Carol is as the story of one of the greatest P.R. makeovers and strategy adjustments in the Victorian era.

        Think, you hear precious little about what happened with Scrooge’s business career post-“haunting”. It certainly isn’t implied in any way that his finances suffered. And, as I’ll show, there’s good reason to think they were probably much enhanced by his “change of heart”.

        While the firm of Scrooge & Marley was evidently successful, it’s also clear that the one thing it was not was poised for growth. It operated with a staff of only two – Scrooge, the CEO, and his clerk Bob Cratchit. Whatsmore, it’s clear that, as a firm, Scrooge & Marley wasn’t a business other firm’s dealt with by choice. Other businessmen looking to take up a collection didn’t even know if he was Mr. Scrooge or Mr. Marley.

        Now, this was the Victorian era, a period where England was about to see an unprecedented surge in prosperity. And untold fortunes could be had by firms well-positioned to take advantage of England’s increased wealth, which Scrooge & Marley was not. So, a cunning, self-interested, ambitious Ebenezer Scrooge would certainly know that he needed to revise his business strategy if he wanted to take advantage of these new opportunities. The problem was that his reputation as a miserly, miserable misanthrope would pose a possibly insurmountable obstacle in doing so. So, Ebenezer Scrooge would have needed a major P.R. makeover to have a hope of being able to execute successfully on an expansion strategy.

        So, let’s consider some of the things that would be necessary to expand. It’s pretty clear, if Scrooge was one of the richest men in London, that he could have only operated with only one person on staff if that one person was an incredibly talented and capable employee. Far from the common image of Bob Cratchit as a bumbling incompetent, it’s pretty clear he Cratchit himself was something of an administrative savant, albeit probably one with self-esteem issues. Certainly, a growth strategy would require keeping Cratchit on board. It’s no surprise then, that Scrooge decides to double his salary. It’s clearly an insurance strategy to keep him from getting poached away in an expanding market. Throw in a turkey, a bowl of punch, and a couple of extra scuttles of coal and he’s bought the man’s loyalty for life. Heck, he’s even talking to Cratchit about his kid going to work for him.

        Now, we come to the question of the apparently large charitable donation. With that one coup, Scrooge goes from being a mean old miser to the talk of the town. This rather immediately burnishes his reputation and makes him a much more attractive business associate. And it’s undoubtedly tax deductible.

        Finally, consider the matter of Scrooge’s nephew, Fred. It’s apparent that, although young and poor, Fred has, in fact, inherited some of the family head for business. In the “Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come” story. Cratchit mentions Fred hiring one of his children. So, we know Fred has the acumen to eventually make a go of things. Now, what would be better for a growth strategy than to bring Fred into the business. Sure, much of his network are probably also young and poor, but that’s something Scrooge is right in calculating will change over time. As the economy expands on new technologies and expanded markets, Fred is much more likely than Scrooge to have a network that can tap into those technologies and markets. And here’s the real kicker, Fred can be brought on for only a little more than promises about the future. Fred knows he’s poised to inherit Scrooge & Marley. Scrooge will be able to leverage that to have him come on board at a discount to his actual value on the market.

        One of the points made repeatedly in A Christmas Carol is that these kindnesses that differentiate the “new” Scrooge from the “old” Scrooge aren’t at all terribly costly. And, if Ebenezer Scrooge wants to see Scrooge & Marley thrive in an expanding market, he’s a sharp enough business operator to realize that they’re acceptable expenses to get that enhanced revenue portion of his income statements.

        1. wdalasio

          Okay, now that was a true threading fail.

    2. he felt “utterly expendable”

      That’s because he is.

  3. Evan from Evansville

    It is very disturbing how the media locks in onto certain phrases and agrees to use them so the catchphrase of the day is just like advertising to the seals listening.

    Beginning of the end
    Bombshell
    Turning point
    Walls closing in.
    Tipping point
    Won’t serve out his term.

    It’s sadly very effective, I think. The average person who doesn’t care about politics (bless them—no sarc) can’t take that constant bombardment from the media. It’s unnerving.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      One of the best things Rush Limbaugh does is his “media montage” where he plays back to back to back clips of the MSM using the same exact phrase over and over.

      You would think that would shame some of the MSM into changing things up a bit.

      1. AlexinCT

        When you are paid to produce/promote propaganda, shame never factors in. If anything, the feeling I bet they have is that people like Limbaugh should be taken to a camp and tortured for as long as possible before being killed after a show confession of conversion.

      2. Rebel Scum

        I have seen back to back and overlapped clips of even local news anchors literally reading from the same script. THAT is unnerving. The propaganda apparatus runs deep and you don’t need a tinfoil hat to see it.

    2. leon

      Listening to that video it made me think of people who really really really just want the nightmare to end. They still haven’t gotten over the fact that she lost and he won. And the common phrases are more of an artifact of their incestuous bubble within the major media industry.

      1. AlexinCT

        The primary motivating factor for this angst is the desire to reverse the election result. They were promises they were the smart ones and that their new queen was going to win, and then reality kicked them in the ass and jeopardized their whole world view.

      2. Evan from Evansville

        I am not one for conspiracy theories and Big Plans carried out be Big People, but we already know that JournoList 1/2 was a real thing. There is obviously collusion to make sure that every channel pumps out as close to the same shit to jingle bell-esque ear worms.

        I tend to fall into the camp of “this is what naturally happens when it comes to money and the levers of power” rather than “there is a cultivated, organized conspiracy” tent, but when it’s so blatant I just have to Occam’s Razor it and assume it is indeed planned.

        *Shrugs helplessly* That’s probably what they want a person like me who’s against the agenda to think. Sow doubt and discord.

        1. leon

          I think it can be both. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a JournoList 2.0, though considering they couldn’t keep the first one a secret. The easier one is that they are all on the DNC talking Points emails. That requires only the person sending the Talking Points to know who is getting them. And then they hang out. I’ve been thinking about this a bit and it isn’t hard to get a group of people who are benefited to believe something (e.g Trump Colluded with Russia) to keep pushing it, when they bear no cost for being wrong. I think the Media Heads believe they are right be cause it confirms their views and the perceived cost for being wrong is minimal. In this case you don’t need for a ‘conspiracy’ to be pushing a narrative over the truth but that it arises naturally in an emergent way.

          1. Pat

            It’s possible that in a highly consolidated industry with an incredibly small number of gatekeepers and all operating at the mercy of a government regulator there’s a pretty small range of acceptable opinion and that there’s both a professional bubble AND a coordinated agenda.

          2. leon

            “coordinated agenda.”

            I’m not saying that it’s not possible, i’m saying that it is by far not the simplest reason, nor the most likely. When we see patterns arise from complex systems we are trained to see it as the workings of a mind that is directing it. But it’s just like the “Invisble Hand”, there is no guiding mind, its just the various interactions of individuals.

            In this case you have a fairly homogeneous culture. Everyone is Left of Center in the media. It gives them a benefit to believe that Trump is the Worst and that every day now he will fail and his presidency will end. It confirms their personal bias. If they are wrong they pay almost no cost. They are not financially invested, they won’t loose any money over it. The only cost would be for them to have to update their beliefs. but they don’t have to, because the people they work with aren’t making them do so because the same people don’t want to have to update their beliefs. You get this cyclic compound effect of group think.

            The whole point is that their doesn’t have to be a concerted effort by some “conspiracy” of individuals, to produce biased reporting. The news is without a doubt biased, and you don’t have to believe in a conspiracy to believe it’s true.

          3. Pat

            True, what I’m saying is that they are by no means mutually exclusive, especially given the rather unique market position of mass media, particularly broadcast media. And the results is the same regardless, so it’s kind of an angels on the head of a pin type of debate anyway.

          4. leon

            “so it’s kind of an angels on the head of a pin type of debate anyway.”

            I thought those were the kinds everyone liked… But yes you are right in the end it’s the same outcome, but one thing that’s nice is that when leftists accuse you of being a “Crazy Tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist” you can show that there doesn’t even have to be a conspiracy for us to be right.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      It might be effective to begin with but even the politically stunted will tune out when the guy’s still in office two years later. People know when they’re being lied to.

      1. AlexinCT

        From the way the proggie sheep keep coming back for more, one wonders if they ever realize they are being played…

        1. Rasilio

          The proggies are not being played. They keep coming back because the media keeps telling them what they want to hear.

      2. R C Dean

        Perhaps, but people love being told what they want to hear.

    4. Fatty Bolger

      Long ago I realized that everything they do makes sense, if you simply regard them as the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.

  4. WTF

    Whatever happened to it, it does not bode well for Mueller considering who the judge is.

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and predict that precisely nothing will happen to Mueller, or Comey, or any of the other corruptocrats involved in this shit show.

    1. Drake

      Unfortunately I agree. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Flynn walks out tomorrow with all charges dismissed. He probably has a hell of a civil case against the government.

    2. CPRM

      There was an original 302 created within five days — by FBI protocol — of the Jan. 24, 2016 ambush interview of General Flynn by two agents — Strzok and Special Agent Joe Pientka.

      Pientka, sounds RUZZIAN! COALUZUN!

      1. Drake

        But Pientka did not report that Flynn lied – that’s why his original went missing. Instead we should believe what Strzok wrote 6 months later because he’s an honorable guy.

        1. AlexinCT

          Stzok had the right bias! Or is it left? Anyway, he supported the right cappo di tutti cappi, so he is good.

      2. Old Man With Candy

        Pientka? Shit, we made those for dinner last night.

        1. commodious spittoon

          COL

          LUSH

          ZUN

          ! ! !

    3. leon

      It’s frustrating that the smarmy people like Strozk, Comey and Mueller are not only going to not be imprisoned for their crimes, but that they are heros to a good chunk of the population.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      The fact that the FBI has refused to comply with Congressional requests should be a giant scandal. Providing oversight of agencies in the Executive branch is actually a constitutional function of Congress.

      If those fuckers had any balls at all, they would zero out the budget for the FBI next year.

      1. leon

        Trump funds his wall by closing down the FBI?

        1. Drake

          Two birds, one really well-aimed stoned.

    5. robc

      What happened to putting people in jail for contempt until they agree to turn it over?

      1. invisible furry hand

        How delightfully old-fashioned of you

        1. STEVE SMITH

          ifh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        2. Not Adahn

          Your coming was foretold!

    6. R C Dean

      Looks like they withheld potentially exculpatory evidence from the accused. Throw out the guilty plea, and enter an order acquitting Flynn. Require any further plea deal to be proved by the court before it is signed. File ethics charges against Mueller and the attorneys involved in Flynn’s case.

      That’s what due process would look like.

      1. WTF

        That’s what due process would look like.

        Which we will not be seeing.

    7. KibbledKristen

      I knew Mueller was dirty the minute everyone started touting what an honest and respected man/lawyer he is.

      1. Drake

        I knew it long, long before that. He came up in the Boston FBI office which produces the dirtiest of FBI Agents. His anthrax investigation was classic Mueller – punish the innocent who got mouthy without any attention to clues while purposefully ignoring the guilty.

        1. KibbledKristen

          Oh – Mueller was the guy who ruined Hatfill’s life? Nice.

          1. Drake

            Inspector Clouseau Comey helped too.

        2. R C Dean

          Let’s not forget he was part of the Whitey Bulger coverup, to the point of refusing to support clemency for two men who were framed by the FBI for one of his murders.

          1. Drake

            Yep – Classic Bob.

  5. commodious spittoon

    Oh, yes, Dems, do please run on reenacting the penalty for not wanting/not being able to afford your terrible Obama plans.

  6. Pope Jimbo

    I can hardly wait until Roberts calls out the Democrats who complain about US District Judge Reed O’Connor being a Bush judge.

  7. Tundra

    Good morning, Banjos!

    Thanks for the meaty lynx!

    For Christmas, I’d like to see Mueller and Comey sharing a cell, the government shut down and a Porsche. Black.

    …“Santa Dangles”.

    I was expecting this.

  8. Drake

    Today in 1838 was the Battle of Blood River. Afrikaans kills a whole bunch of invading Zulus and saved the native population of South Africa from genocide.

    1. Warty

      You touched yourself while you typed this out.

    2. KibbledKristen

      I remember when Oprah got her DNA done years ago. She was convinced she was Zulu. She was sure of it, after watching Roots or some shit. What she didn’t know is almost no African Americans who are descended from slaves are Eastern or Southern African. She was pretty disappointed when she found out her people came from Nigeria and Ghana.

      What a racist!

      1. Drake

        Sure – Dutch Sailors in wooden clogs would hop off their ships and chase down Zulu Warriors through lion country, bundle them up and drag them back to their ships.

  9. Evan from Evansville

    I come bearing news–that you–can use. Through the magic of “finding attractive person attractive in BBC article (I know, right?) and looking up their business” can sometimes lead to gold. She’s the founder/chairman of ClassPass, which is some sort of yoga/gym type thing. Apparently it’s worth a half billion dollars.

    This is how I found out about Payal Kadakia. This is her. HOT. DAMN.

    She’s hotter than Qs hotties and yet is elegant and has the smarts/ambition to co-found the company and serve as its CEO for four years. And somehow she’s 35….which is remarkable.

    I would be in my bunk…but I’ve already been in my bunk. I may come out of retirement.

    1. Enough About Palin

      DAMN!

    2. *volunteers as houseboy*

    3. R C Dean

      *submits resignation, applies for visa*

  10. Pope Jimbo

    This is govt in a nutshell. An article on the new “navigation center” that Minneapolis built for the homeless tenters.

    When this story first started in the summer, the city wrung its hands and said they had to do something to get everyone housing by the end of September. Here it is end of December and all they’ve done is erect three big tents for the homeless to sleep in while they try to find them other housing.

    I can hardly wait for the pictures of what that place looks like in a month or so.

    1. leon

      Hmm. And where did the money go?

    2. Pat

      It’s a good thing those people weren’t just left to the mercies of capitalism.

      1. leon

        I hope none of them stuck around in Minneapolis because the city had promised to get them out by September. Because that could exacerbate the problem. But no one could have predicted that would have happened.

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      That OSB is going to soak up the urine and other fluides really well.

    4. Fourscore

      Are there no jobs at the casinos?

    5. Rhywun

      Minneapolis this week joined just a handful of U.S. cities that have opened emergency government-sponsored centers to offer social services and shelter to a growing number of people who are sleeping outside

      Wait… “homeless shelters” a new thing now? I don’t get it.

  11. Pat

    A video of almost two years of the media declaring the end for Trump.

    Come on, it’s not like the same soundbites and catchphrases get distributed to mass media outlets through email lists or something like that.

  12. Rebel Scum

    Father Of Guatemalan Girl Who Died In Border Patrol Custody expresses deep remorse and guilt about making decisions that endangered the life of his daughter, resulting in her death Hires Lawyers, Claims Daughter Wasn’t Dehydrated

    The father of Jakelin Caal, who died in United States Customs and Border Protection custody, has reportedly hired a pair of attorneys and is challenging the Department of Homeland Security’s claims of how his daughter died.

    Nery Gilberto Caal released a statement, through attorneys, on Saturday, claiming that he and his daughter — whom Border Patrol says died of prolonged hunger and dehydration — were properly fed, and that they had not spent days in the desert before declaring their intent to seek asylum at an official border crossing in New Mexico last week.

    Buzzfeed News and CBS News report that Caal has hired Enrique Morneo and Elena Esparza to handle his case. The attorneys now say that, “Jakelin had not been crossing the desert for days. Jakelin’s father took care of Jakelin — made sure she was fed and had sufficient water,” and that they “sought asylum from the Border Patrol as soon as they crossed the border.”

    The pair of lawyers also reportedly issued a threat to the Department of Homeland Security, warning spokespeople for the agency to cease “further speculation about her cause of death” because making “premature and inaccurate statements undermine the integrity of the investigation.”

    Clearly Trump’s SS Border Patrol killed this poor child. The father deserves financial recompense.

    1. WTF

      The father of Jakelin Caal, who died in United States Customs and Border Protection custody, has reportedly hired a pair of attorneys and is looking to cash in on the Ghetto Lottery.

    2. AlexinCT

      The father of Jakelin Caal, who died in United States Customs and Border Protection custody, has reportedly hired a pair of attorneys and is challenging the Department of Homeland Security’s claims of how his daughter died.

      I am sure he had a Rolodex with a long list of lawyers to consult and it was not some sheister working for the dnc or Soros that approached him with this idea…

      1. Pat

        No, he’s a legitimate economic refugee fleeing a narco-terror state for a better life as a scab wage lettuce picker in America who just happened to have connections with fluent Spanish-speaking US immigration attorneys. It’s all completely legit.

      2. Hmmm… Why wouldn’t the financial backers of this charade just give the poor man his due reward directly, rather than to some attorneys? /rhetorical

    3. R C Dean

      So the claim is that the Border Patrol took a perfectly healthy child and murdered her within hours of picking them up?

      Good luck with that. I mean, I’m as skeptical as the next Glib when it comes to people dying in police custody, but this sounds like a real stretch to me.

      1. WTF

        Doesn’t matter, if they don’t settle some jury will award him a pile of cash because they feel bad for him.

        1. AlexinCT

          So going back to the way the Mayans ran things and providing human sacrifices is the way to prosperity it looks like…

    4. leon

      “Jakelin had not been crossing the desert for days. Jakelin’s father took care of Jakelin — made sure she was fed and had sufficient water,” and that they “sought asylum from the Border Patrol as soon as they crossed the border.

      Bullshit. Pure Bullshit. Why would you make the journey to fucking Guatamala to then go to the one agency who will keep you from making it to your destination? Unless there is some sort of idea among them that if they cross with a child they have to be released and get in. But where would they get that idea?

      1. leon

        On a separate note: The letter K is not natural to the Spanish language. Almost any word in Spanish that has a K in it was borrowed from another language. The more common spelling for Jakelin would have been Jaquelin.

    5. Drake

      The news today said she died of sepsis shock – which means her Dad dragged a very ill child across the border. I was assured this never happens.
      https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/Guatemalan-Girl-Death-Sepsis-Shock-Hospital-Officials-502904621.html

      1. R C Dean

        Sepsis, huh? Well, if she died within what, 8 hours I think of being picked up, then she was doomed when they got her. Once sepsis starts to run like that, its over.

        1. WTF

          So, what you’re saying is Trump gave her sepsis.

          1. R C Dean

            Can’t be arsed to bother a real pediatric intensive care specialist for info on kids, but typically the window to save an adult who dies of sepsis closes at least a day before their death. You have to catch sepsis really early, and blast it with heavy heavy antibiotics.

          2. WTF

            So, what you’re saying is Trump denied her proper treatment.

  13. Pat

    California will require zero-emissions buses by 2040

    California isn’t just interested in taking fossil fuel cars off the streets — it wants to clean up buses, too. The state’s Air Resources Board has voted to require that all buses are emissions-free by 2040. The transition will start in earnest in 2029, when California will require that all new buses ditch fossil fuels. Transit agencies will have access to subsidies (plus funds from the state’s settlement with VW over Dieselgate) to help soften the blow of upgrading their fleets.

    1. Powered by Fred Flintstone’s feet.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Hang on. They’re going for zero emissions. Have you seen what Fred eats?

        1. AlexinCT

          Wilma?

          1. prolefeed

            The power for the electricity coming, obviously, from windmills and water power. Totally not a fossil fuel plant somewhere out of sight belching emissions — or carbon dioxide, which on good authority I hear is a dangerous gas that kills.

          2. R C Dean

            Well, they are also planning to be 100% renewable electricity by then, as well.

            What they will do with the mountain of toxic waste that is aged-out solar panels, they haven’t yet said.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Minnesoda has a similar plan. They want to go all electric as an “aspirational goal.”

      Electric buses can be up to eight times more efficient than buses operated with diesel fuel or compressed natural gas, APTA said. But they are more expensive — 60-foot electric buses cost about $1.2 million vs. $700,000 to $800,000 for diesel buses.

      You can’t argue with math!

      1. pistoffnick

        Duluth has removed its electric busses because they can’t handle our San Francisco like hills. Also they had to be fitted with dirty, dirty diesel heaters because the batteries couldn’t provide enough electrical heat.

        https://duluthnewstribune.com/news/traffic-and-construction/4542279-dta-temporarily-pulls-electric-buses

      2. Old Man With Candy

        Or with the Second Law. Where does that electricity come from?

        1. Tundra

          The wall. Duh.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            What if the govt shuts down and Trump doesn’t get his wall? Then what smarty pants?

          2. Pope Jimbo

            What if Trump built a wall that had rotating vertical treadmills on the Mexican side? The illegals would think that they were ladders, but as they started to climb, the rungs would rotate. This rotation would spin the generator and make electricity.

            Free power!

            On the US side would be banks of outlets where do gooders could charge their cars while they throw food and water over the wall to the illegals.

    3. So Cali is to be powered by perpetual motion machines?

    4. Rebel Scum

      buses are emissions-free by 2040

      There is no such thing as “emissions free”, considering all the emissions to produce the buses and generate the electricity for them (I assume they intend to have electric powered ones, which is retarded.)

    1. Old Man With Candy

      I’m an American lad, so two out of three.

      1. AlexinCT

        You know how to ride horses and fly planes?

        1. Old Man With Candy

          Horses are assholes. Big, dumb, nasty serial-shitting assholes. I fucking hate horses.

          1. Mojeaux

            ^^^ They most certainly are.

          2. hoof_in_mouth

            I thought it was just me . Never has a creature been created to more efficiently turn dollars into dung, vet bills and an enormous corpse you have to dispose of.

      2. You’re coming to our town to help us party down?

  14. Pope Jimbo

    Oh no! Fargo residents upset that they may have to pay for their decision to build on a flood plain.

    Fargo/Moorhead is built on the bottom of an ancient glacial lake. There is nothing to prevent THE Red River from flooding the town. There was a big plan to do a giant diversion project, but because it impacted both Minnesoda and NoDak, there have been a lot of permitting problems. The project is slated to cost $2.75B.

    Actually, in Cass County alone, without the diversion 11,000 homeowners face the possibility of having to pay flood insurance of $5,000 to $6,000 per year, said Mary Scherling, a Cass County commissioner and Diversion Authority board member. The spike would come when federal officials revise the flood plain map.

    By my math, that $2.75B could pay the insurance premiums for 42 years. Maybe if you made those people living there pay for the diversion project, it might be done for a lot less?

    1. CPRM

      I don’t understand people whose houses flood every year, and every year they are surprised by it.

      1. AlexinCT

        GLOBULL WARMING!

      2. Pope Jimbo

        They aren’t surprised. They just don’t want to have to pay for their decisions all by themselves when they can get everyone else to chip in.

      3. robc

        My Mom grew up on a farm in the bend of a river. It flooded nearly every year, which is why it was such good farm land. Guess where the house was? Far enough back that it didn’t flood. My mom said it got up to the back yard fence sometimes when she was little.

        That area doesn’t flood anymore due to a dam built up river. I wonder how long it will remain good farm land without the regular floodings? Just looked it up, the dam was completed when my Mom was 9 years old.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Creek_Dam

    2. leon

      Just adjacent to my backyard is a large chunk of undeveloped land, it also happens to be a national flood zone. Go figure that it has never been developed. Apparently its the drainage system for the entire canyon just up from where i live, and that in the 80’s the city buried 2 or 3 cars to help divert flow s of water into rather than out.

  15. Rebel Scum

    Outraged Democrats vowed to appeal a federal judge’s ruling that could undo the US health care law known as Obamacare, saying on Saturday that they will use their new power in Congress to hold Republicans responsible and “expose their lies.”

    Um…ok…

    Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer tweeted that Republicans had pretended to care about those protected by Obamacare “while quietly trying to remove that support in the courts. Next year, we will force votes to expose their lies.”

    Or, and I know this sounds crazy, they and others view this legislation as outside the purview and constitutional authority of the government.

    Republicans “know that they can’t repeal the ACA in Congress. So they’ve continued their crusade through the courts,” tweeted Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, a consumer-protection activist.

    But is she really? Also, do you know who has engaged in *actual* judicial activism in the courts?

    1. leon

      Lies? I mean the Act is called the “Affordable Care Act” and since it’s passed, Health Insurance prices have skyrocketed. Either way If it’s an exercise of the Taxing authority you have to.. you know.. tax people.

      1. AlexinCT

        For their own good, right?

      2. Urthona

        To be as objective as possible,

        Health costs rose at a faster rate (slightly) than before ACA.
        Deductibles for ordinary people rose a lot –> one of the principle side effects.
        Quality of some services slightly diminished (wait times)
        Coverage overall slightly increased.

        All of these things were predicted before it passed and happened with RomneyCare in Mass.

        If your goal is the Democrat goal of increasing coverage, you did that. Partially through force, partially through redistribution.

        I would get rid of it. What’s most popular about it is that it increased coverage for people with preexisting conditions.

        That’s a silly welfare endaround. If you can’t get insurance, trying to shoehorn in an insurance scheme is nonsense.

        If we want to give welfare to people with preexisting conditions who can’t get regular insurance, then I’d actually just rather we simply do so. I’m no fan of it, but it’s better than ridiculous contrivance and it allows us to address the problem directly.

        1. AlexinCT

          If we want to give welfare to people with preexisting conditions who can’t get regular insurance, then I’d actually just rather we simply do so.

          And give up the opportunity to make a government bureaucracy get the power to pick healthcare winners & losers? Are you fucking crazy?

          1. Urthona

            They already do so. And the government already gives free health care to all people within 140% of the poverty level (higher for women and children) and every single old person (who, btw, are the richest and most financially stable class in America while having the most health care needs).

            The truth is there are very few people with preexisting conditions who find that they suddenly can’t get insurance within a reasonable range. But fixing this problem is extremely popular politically, and the only way to fix this must come out of others pockets. Make a simple set of rules for determining this level that rises with average costs and inflation, and it would be better than the scheme we have now which means anyone with preexisting conditions can grab anything… a scheme that really skyrockets deductibles.

        2. WTF

          If we want to give welfare to people with preexisting conditions who can’t get regular insurance, then I’d actually just rather we simply do so.

          But then how can people with preexisting conditions pretend they’re not just getting welfare?

        3. R C Dean

          Take out the Medicaid expansion, and my guess is increased coverage is minimal. Odd that this information is not readily available, though.

          1. Urthona

            It is, I think, and I do recall reading that somewhere.

            I would love to know for sure though.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            The “increased coverage” came in the form of mandates for what would normally be riders, like maternity and drug addiction treatment.

            I’m so happy to be paying for maternity coverage when my wife is 56 and I’ve had a vasectomy.

        4. Evan from Evansville

          I admit that my healthcare situation in the US scares me and is one reason that I don’t live there. My hips don’t lie and I have no idea how much my insurance would cost in the States.

          I admit that I like the idea that it would it would directly benefit me, but I know that it’s a bad policy and will pretty much kill the insurance industry. My family is baffled that I disagree with a law that would be so helpful for me.

          I would take advantage of it if it were offered. Principles are hard, Free Shit is alluring, and pobody’s nerfect. Doesn’t make me happy, though.

          1. Urthona

            I mean despite the propaganda U.S. health care is very high quality.

            We do get the Democrat talking point: “most expensive for the worst outcomes in the first world”, but what they mean is that Americans have low first world life expectancy. Which is actually not health care related, except for a little bit of an infant mortality fudge stat that Americans measure differently.

            There isn’t any surgery or treatment for a major disease that the U.S. doesn’t do as well or much better than any other first world country. If you got cancer or any other other of the 6 most common killers, your best odds of beating it would be the U.S. You would absolutely not, if you needed major medical treatment or surgery, choose England or Canada over the U.S. Not if you were at all smart.

            My hope is that whatever b.s. socialist solution we invariably choose, it’s not so over the top we don’t lose that edge.

          2. Urthona

            * do lose that edge

        5. The Last American Hero

          The goal wasn’t increased coverage. The goal was everyone to have access to affordable insurance without a sacrifice in the quality or availability of healthcare. The cost curve was also supposed to be bent down due to physicians ceasing to practice voodoo and starting to used “evidence based medicine” and “best practices” as determined by a council of solons in DC.

          We still have 22 million uninsured 10 years in, and the majority of those that got insurance got it through Medicaid expansion. Cost have continued to increase.

          It is a failure.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Now do the quotes from Collins where she managed to pull the statist cock out of her RINO lips just long enough to say repeal is too much.

  16. DOOMco

    It’s a turning point.

    1. DOOMco

      So many turns we’re right back where we were!!

      1. Pat

        Two lefts don’t make a right… but three do.

  17. Rufus the Monocled

    So Kennedy is in on the act?

  18. Rufus the Monocled

    That video is exquisite.

    They should just show that when mooch journalists complain about Trump cancelling Christmas parties.

    Speaking of which, I heard Trump’s wants to cancel Christmas for all!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      He just wants to cancel Christmas for the non-whites.

    2. straffinrun

      Gotta say that this part cracked me up. Kennedy still has that bad habit of interrupting.

  19. Millionaire property tycoon who killed lover in cocaine-fuelled S&M sex session is jailed for three years and eight months

    The mum-of-one was discovered wearing just a black skirt which was pulled up to her waist in a pool of blood at the bottom of the stairs.

    Broadhurst had called 999 claiming he found his partner “dead as a doughnut” and later said he only hurt her “within the boundaries of her masochistic desires.”

    She had suffered over 40 injuries – including blunt-force trauma to her head, buttocks and breast – and horrific internal injuries inflicted during a bizarre sex game involving a bottle of carpet cleaner.

    Broadhurst had today been caged for three years and eight months after dramatically changing his plea to guilty at Birmingham Crown Court this month.

    1. Pat

      Found McAfee’s 2020 running mate.

    2. AlexinCT

      She had suffered over 40 injuries – including blunt-force trauma to her head, buttocks and breast – and horrific internal injuries inflicted during a bizarre sex game involving a bottle of carpet cleaner.

      WTF? A bottle of carpet cleaner? How does that fucking work? Where are our resident experts on this sort of shit to explain this to me. Did this bottle get jammed up her cracks or was she beaten about the chest, breasts, and neck with it? I am not getting this shitz.

      1. straffinrun

        A bottle of carpet cleaner. Kids these days and their slang. It’s called a douche.

        1. AlexinCT

          Kaboom that stanky crack?

      2. Creosote Achilles

        You rang?

        I … don’t know about the bottle of carpet cleaner. Unless she was a really heavy masochist and they were doing some kind of chemical play trying to cause pain. The article is poorly written and not terribly descriptive so I don’t know. Drunk and raged up on coke…so who knows what if anything they were thinking and doing. Or if he snapped and went all real torture on her.

  20. Rebel Scum

    Washington faces a partial government shutdown in five days and there doesn’t appear to be any urgency or a plan by lawmakers to negotiate a way around it.

    Shut it down.

  21. Robot Sex Conference Cancelled
    Attendees mad over scheduled appearance by former Donald Trump strategist Steve Bannon

    Wait … what does Bannon know about sex with robots?

    Um … we don’t know. Nor do we want to know. In fact, of all the questions this news outlet has posed over the years, that may the one we would most prefer to leave unanswered.

    Anyway, due to the outcry over Bannon’s scheduled appearance, the Fourth International Congress of Love and Sex With Robots was called off … and rescheduled for 2020 in Las Vegas (opposite an adult film gathering).

    “We apologize most sincerely to the speakers, press and other attendees who were planning to come to Missoula next month for the congress, for the inconvenience this postponement will cause them,” a statement from the organization noted.

    1. AlexinCT

      Wait … what does Bannon know about sex with robots?

      You seen the guy? I am pretty sure he ain’t getting sex unless the thing he is fucking is non-sentient.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        So he’s banging the entire Womyn’s Studies department at some Ivy League school?

        1. AlexinCT

          That sounds more like punishment than actually getting laid man… My nightmares of abusive punishments that would trigger the Geneva Convention include this scenario you just described Jimbo.

          1. prolefeed

            You apparently have not sampled the joys of hate fucking women whose mouths have been duct taped shut, except when otherwise occupied …

            Or so I’ve heard.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            I think black electrical tape looks much better when you take pics than duct tape.

          3. AlexinCT

            Referring to the angry hairy heifers that usually populate those departments, I think there is not enough tape in the world to make them fuckable…

    2. Pat

      “No weirdos or outsiders at the robot sex convention!”

      1. ElspethFlashman

        Just sex robots smoking & talking about sex ?

        1. AlexinCT

          Before or after?

          1. invisible furry hand

            During

          2. AlexinCT

            Doesn’t the talking get in the way of the smoking and humping?

          3. robc

            I think robots can handle all 3.

          4. invisible furry hand

            Robo-hos got skills you can only dream of. They can smoke, hump, talk and julienne a carrot all at the same time

          5. Tundra

            …julienne a carrot…

            Yikes! Too much room for error there!

            Nice to see you ifh! I trust all is well?

          6. AlexinCT

            Yeah, not sticking it in equipment that has built in julienne tools…

          7. invisible furry hand

            Hey Tundra, all’s good with me. Hope your world is full of sparkles ‘n’ shit

          8. Tundra

            Totally. Like a stripper exploded.

          9. Pope Jimbo

            julienne a carrot

            Only the Bad Orange Man needs to worry about that feature, right?

    3. Pope Jimbo

      So what pithy advice do we need to come up with now that our new robot overlords are here?

      Don’t stick it in cyber?

      1. AlexinCT

        Beware the automatic selfies of your fuck faces now on the internetz?

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Sadly, men will still need to wear rubbers. Not for birth control, but to protect against actual electrical shocks.

      3. invisible finger

        Don’t stick it in Google.

      4. ElspethFlashman

        Siri, I need help?

  22. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Ron Paul is not feeling very positive (nothing new, I know)

    Paul, a well-known Libertarian, has been warning Wall Street a massive market plunge is inevitable for years. He’s currently projecting a 50 percent decline from current levels as his base case, citing the ongoing U.S.-China trade war as a growing risk factor.

    “I’m not optimistic that all of the sudden, you’re going to eliminate the tariff problem. I think that’s here to stay,” he said. “Tariffs are taxes.”

    The scenario is exacerbating Paul’s chief reason behind his bearish call: 2008 financial crisis easy money policies. He contended the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing has caused the “biggest bubble in the history of mankind. ”

    The money quote:

    Unlike the Great Depression, Paul said the next historic downturn doesn’t have to last a decade — as long as Fed policy and lawmakers don’t make the same financial mistakes.

    “If you allow the liquidation, it doesn’t last long,” Paul said.

    Ron, you could have just said “we’re fucked”.

    1. robc

      “If you allow the liquidation, it doesn’t last long,” Paul said.

      This is what I said in 2008.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You obviously want to see the world burn.

        1. robc

          It is pretty and gives warmth.

          Win-win.

      2. AlexinCT

        Still remains unpopular with eh people that want to gamble big to get richer and use government to force tax payers to bail them out when they end up fucking up, because that is the agreement they made with the government entities obsessed with picking winners & losers.

    2. Rebel Scum

      I recall in grade-school being taught that “Laissez-faire” caused the collapse and subsequent depression. I read years later that Hoover did not advocate government non-intervention until after he had left office, having engaged in the very government intervention that caused a prolonged depression while in office. It seems that government school textbooks are full of bullshit lies disingenuous misrepresentations of events.

      1. leon

        Government Schools are Pro-Government… Strange.

      2. Spartacus

        I recently read American Default: the untold story of FDR, the Supreme Court, and the battle over Gold, by Sebastian Edwards. The story of how FDR played political games with Hoover during the transition period in early 1932 while banks continued to fail is pretty infuriating. I recommend the book.

    3. Tariffs are taxes.

      Aren’t import tariffs a Constitutionally legit way for the fed to collect revenue?

      1. robc

        Yes, but that still doesn’t make them a good idea.

      2. CampingInYourPark

        I recall the LP advocating funding the Fed Gov’t via tariffs and eliminating the income tax at some point in the past.

        1. I’m pretty sure that’s how it used to be done.

    4. Lachowsky

      When it crashes it is going to have to correct for the malinvestment made that caused it to originally crash in 2008 plus another decade of malinvestment. All that fed policy of the last decade has done is continue to build the bubble that should have popped 11 years ago.

  23. robc

    I saw a suggestion for a 3rd axis added to the Nolan Chart. At one extreme is radical burnt-in-all-down-ism and the other end is don’t change.

    Its a measure of how quickly and radically you would move to your position.

    Outside of the far extremes, the two ends would be radical overhaul and incremental change.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They forgot “plug your ears and pretend you can’t hear anything”

    2. CPRM

      Isn’t that just how conservative you are? I mean, that’s why they are called conservative, not willing to make quick changes, to conserve.

      1. robc

        Well, no, on the nolan chart, conservative would socially conservation and economically conservative. How you get to that point from where we are today would be the 3rd axis.

        And, yes, that is another definition of conservative, but not the one we are talking about.

  24. invisible furry hand

    Developer is ordered to build an EXACT replica of a landmark San Francisco home designed by a famed architect after he illegally demolished the $1.7million property to make way for a new mansion

    more

    1. robc

      Property rights, you can’t have them.

    2. Pat

      Rather than wait until it’s built and then relitigate when they inevitably can’t match the shade of paint or the wainscotting isn’t quite right, couldn’t the parties just agree to damages?

      1. prolefeed

        Sooo, if the guy ignores the order to build a house exactly as specified by some non-owners, and just leaves it as rubble as he appeals the ruling, what are the consequences?

  25. MikeS

    here’s a song for ya’ll.

    Triggered!

  26. Pat

    Amazon declares war on loss-making ‘CRaP’

    In its quest to cut costs and maximize profits, Amazon is reportedly looking to eliminate product quantities that it can’t make money on. These goods, codenamed CRaP, are offerings that Amazon “Can’t Realize a Profit” on, once you factor in shipping costs. The Wall Street Journal says that the company is targeting items, like beverages, where the weight and size is too big, and the charge is too low.

    One example is a six-pack of bottled water from Coca-Cola’s Smartwater brand, which costs $6.99 and is available as a Dash button. Water is heavy and doesn’t cost a lot, and so it’s likely that Amazon was eating much of the delivery charges, much to its distaste. That’s why, earlier in the year, the minimum order for the bottles went from a six-pack to a 24-pack, costing $37.20.

    What kind of abject fucking tool is order a 40 dollar case of smart water from Amazon rather than pick it up at a store within 5 miles of their house for $20?

    1. leon

      One who is in his pajamas all day?

      Also, it’s totally fine to call a product CRaP, but when i point out that an employee is unprofitable, i’m the bad guy.

    2. pistoffnick

      (Jabs thumbs at chest) this kind of abject fucking tool! I don’t buy water, but buttwipe, tissues, paper towels, and sometimes laundry detergent at Amazon are comparably priced with Target or WallyMart. And I if it gets delivered to my front door, I don’t have the frustration of dealing with the slow-assed, unwashed, inconsiderate patrons of Target

      1. Pat

        I mean if it’s close in price that makes sense, but I am certain I’ve seen cases of Smart Water at Albertson’s and Smith’s where I live for way less than $37.20. It’s like that with most of the foodstuff that Amazon sells.

        1. prolefeed

          I think the point is that selling a $15 case of SmartWater for $37.20 allows for a profit after eating the shipping charges, while just selling a six pack causes a loss.

          If hardly anybody buys the case, it is still better to have a few sales where you make money than a bunch of sales where you lose money.

          1. invisible finger

            Then they’re just bulking in the shipping charges in the price of the item. That has a tendency to scare off customers. Another option would be to just make the products not eligible for free shipping (at least until a higher dollar threshold is reached). They already have gobs of small items that can’t be put on orders under a certain dollar amount.

          2. prolefeed

            Scaring off customers of a product you’d lose money on seems like a decent strategy. The free shipping thing would fix the problem only if the underlying product is priced right. Heavy bulky items cost way more to move around than lightweight stuff.

        2. Lachowsky

          The water that comes out of my faucet is a lot cheaper than that.

          1. dorvinion

            I just don’t get the buying of bottled water, especially for those who have a treated tap.

            If you have a well I can sort of understand it, but even then there are considerably less costly options.

            I used to have a well, and while the water was safe to drink it was a bit unpleasant when straight from the faucet.

            A simple filter I replaced every few months took care of the water for cooking and my drinking water (tea)

            5 gallon jugs re-filled at the grocer/wal mart for 39c a gallon took care of drinking water for wife, and brewing water.

          2. prolefeed

            Bottled water is a good idea for situations where you anticipate not having easy access to a tap or drinking fountain. Driving in your car — hanging on to the front row spot at a concert — the city water supply temporarily supplying allegedly unsafe water, as happened here in Austin lately. That “just in case” supply of bottled water in the pantry avoided the hassle of boiling all drinking water.

  27. Rebel Scum

    Move along, citizen. Nothing to see here.

    Page and Peter Strzok, who were both married but reportedly having an affair, worked for the FBI and were assigned to the Hillary Clinton email scandal. Strzok went on to work on Mueller’s investigation into whether Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election. The two sent thousands of text messages to each other, but on Thursday, the Justice Department revealed some 19,000 messages were deleted.

    Like with a cloth?

    1. AlexinCT

      Magically.. nobody ordered this move or perpetrated it either…

    2. WTF

      Karnack predicts there will no outcry regarding obstruction of justice in this matter.

    3. leon

      ” Mueller’s investigation into whether Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election.”

      I mean we all know that’s really what it was about, but IIRC the purview was to investigate any Russian Meddling in the election, not just in regards to Trump…

      1. Lachowsky

        It quit being about Russia and collusion a long time ago.

    4. robc

      Is that 19000 separate charges of obstruction?

  28. AlexinCT

    Hey OMWC, you know this fella?

    1. Pope Jimbo

      If we are demanding answers from OMWC, I want him to comment on this: Danish researcher: Vegan diet leads to mental retardation.

      That’s real science. You think a scientist getting paid by Big Pastry would extoll a meat free diet, but that guy went where the facts took him.

      1. leon

        To accuse him of being a shill would be crumby.

        1. commodious spittoon

          He doesn’t seem flakey.

          1. MikeS

            Everyone has their price. They must have offered him a bunch of dough.

        2. STEVE SMITH

          STEVE SMITH NO LIKE PUNS. MAYBE HIM COME VISIT PUNSTERS. BY VISIT, MEAN…

          1. MikeS

            …you’ll come in their back door?

          2. Jarflax

            Narrowed gazes versus gaping narrows?

          3. Pope Jimbo

            Pun day, fun day?

      2. Old Man With Candy

        Ahem, this was in my brilliant links this past weekend. Too busy trying to steal your piece-of-shit bike back from Tundra to read my beautiful prose?

        1. Tundra

          Good luck to him. That fucking thing is a fish habitat in Lake Minnetonka.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Fuck that shit. It is in Bde Maka Ska. I doubt anyone in that neighborhood is going to traipse all the way out to ‘Tonka.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Sorry, I’ve been too busy fucking off on the weekends to catch up. Glibs is great during work time, but I resent it when it cuts into my time.

          Sort of like shitting.

          1. MikeS

            +2 at work

          2. leon

            “Boss makes a dollar, I make Dime. That’s why I shit on company time.”

      3. Spartacus

        I’m still not sure if that’s a cause or an effect.

      4. Follow the cheese money.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      We’ve shared our contact lists.

      1. Jarflax

        You pass them to him when they age out?

  29. I Have Seen the Future of a Republican Party That Is No Longer Insane

    Niskanen’s scholars have criticized the failures of conservative policy you might expect — climate science skepticism, the Republican health-care plan — a heterodox center-right think tank to criticize. But Niskanen has gone beyond point-by-point rebuttals and has developed a broad and deep argument with the movement’s core assumptions.

    Last year, Will Wilkinson argued against “small-government monomania” and in favor of a social safety net to “increase the public’s tolerance for the dislocations of a dynamic free-market economy,” and identified libertarianism with hostility to democracy, resulting in persistent Republican efforts “to find ways to keep Democrats from voting, and to minimize the electoral impact of the Democratic ballots that are cast.” Brink Lindsey attacked “the notion that downward redistribution picks the pockets of makers and doles it out to layabout takers.”

    These are frontal assaults on the basic orientation of the libertarian political project. By recognizing the value of social transfers as a backstop to a free-market system, and acknowledging that the right’s obsession with the protection of property has made it hostile to democracy itself, they forced themselves to rethink not only the methods but also the goals of libertarian politics.

    1. Pat

      The era of small government is over?

      1. CPRM

        “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism giving away other people’s money. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals British and the liberals would be the Tories Hessians. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom to win and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.”

    2. leon

      “Niskanen’s”

      As far as i got

    3. Rebel Scum

      to find ways to keep Democrats from voting

      Even death does not keep Democrats from voting. And it often causes former Republicans to vote Democrat.

      right’s obsession with the protection of property has made it hostile to democracy

      There in lies the problem with “democracy” and the reason the US is not one. My rights > your vote.

      1. leon

        ^^^ This. If Democracy is at odds with Property, it is not the property owner who is in the wrong. It’s been said a million times, but Democracy has become a catchall word for “Good thing” that anything that opposes it must be bad. And it’s not like the morons peddling this nonsense don’t understand. If you took this same logic you could say that 10 years ago Gay Rights were at Odds with democracy, and that enacting them overturned what the people wanted. But they would obviously recoil at that.

      2. Rhywun

        Democracy means the mob taking your shit – this is known.

        1. Jarflax

          been known for 2500 years.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Will Wilkinson argued against “small-government monomania” and in favor of a social safety net to “increase the public’s tolerance for the dislocations of a dynamic free-market economy,”

      Disingenuous little shit. When the federal, state, and local governments are at all-time highs in terms of expenditures and shrinking the government gets short-shrift from all comers. Niskanen is chickening out and opting for going with the flow instead of standing on principle, assuming they ever had them to begin with.

      1. Winston

        Niskanen is literally about appealing to the elites at cocktail parties so this is no surprise.

    5. leon

      The Niskanen Center is to Libertarianism what Hillary Clinton is to Socialism

      1. WTF

        I think Hillary is probably more socialist than Niskanen is libertarian.

    6. Chipwooder

      So, basically, their vision is two Democrat Parties? Am I missing something?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Nope

  30. The Late P Brooks

    after he illegally demolished the $1.7million property to make way for a new mansion

    Had it not been paid off? Was it the collateral on the loan? Because if he owned it (had clear title and undisputed possession), I don’t see how knocking it down could be illegal.

    I know, I know…

  31. The Late P Brooks

    Last year, Will Wilkinson argued against “small-government monomania”

    No shit?

  32. Pat

    Did my children die because I married my cousin?

    Ruba and Saqib both carry a gene for an incurable condition, which means their children have a one-in-four chance of dying in early childhood. They’ve already lost three. Ruba now wants IVF, to select a healthy embryo. Saqib is putting his trust in Allah. And some relatives want them to separate and remarry.

    It’s almost impossible to overstate how much better our culture and society are for the incredibly rich traditions and diversity engendered by a welcoming immigration policy.

    1. But Falafel food trucks!

    2. straffinrun

      “He said he looked like normal baby. He wasn’t sitting or crawling, but my husband said some children were just slow,” Ruba says.

      If that is what a normal baby looks like in Pakistan….Yikes. Poor kid.

    3. Urthona

      Marrying your cousin doesn’t have a huge risk of birth defects and is widely acceptable throughout the world. Your risk of birth defects is as high if you have a baby after 35.

      Marrying your cousins for GENERATIONS compounds that risk, however, and it became a problem among royalty in Europe because they continuously kept doing so without adding to the pool.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Yep, when you’re the product of cousins and you marry your cousin who’s the product of cousins and your and her parents were too, going back generations, that can be highly problematic

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          So you’re saying it’s a bad idea?

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Yes, unless she’s hot, in which case go for it.

          2. invisible furry hand

            Not if you want to have little freak babies to sell to the circus

          3. WTF

            +1 Habsburg Jaw

    4. Evan from Evansville

      That’s really sad. Indeed–poor, poor kid.

    5. robc

      I am a carrier for Niemann Pick Type C (I have no idea how, my family tree is as far from the subgroups for which it is common as possible). At some point, I am going to have my daughter tested, and if she is a carrier too, I am going to make her require a genetic test of any potential dates. No point at even starting a relationship if it would have that horrible a possible ending.

      1. prolefeed

        ” I am going to make her require a genetic test of any potential dates”

        I suspect that you don’t get how that whole age of consent / not living with my parents thing works.

        Oh, and this: Niemann–Pick type C affects an estimated 1:150,000 people. The chance of her finding anyone with that gene seems vanishingly small, if she doesn’t marry a cousin.

        I’d suggest giving her the sound advice of dating people who look very different from her, and calling it a day.

        1. robc

          Actually…don’t date French Canadians may be good enough.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Niskanen’s scholars have criticized the failures of conservative policy you might expect — climate science skepticism, the Republican health-care plan

    WHAT “Republican health-care plan”?

      1. Urthona

        Thumbs up to that one.

        It was real popular, though. Like 2% of people liked it.

    1. LJW

      Sprint, T-Mobile merger would cut employee pay, even at Verizon and AT&T, study says

      Was trying to wrap my head around how they came to their conclusion. Then I saw it, “the report released by the Economic Policy Institute and the Roosevelt Institute said.”.

      1. LJW

        Son of a bitch must have accidentally hit reply

  34. prolefeed

    Mesmerizing Monday (possibly NSFW??)

    https://thesexier.com/those-eyes-38-pics/

    Allegedly about the eyes, but if you don’t also notice the sweater puppies a bit further south …

    16 and 23, plus, for sheer massiveness of the … eyes … 36 or 37

      1. MikeS

        Is that new? I like it. I’ve not heard a lot of Oleander, but what I have heard I’ve liked.

        I think I’m going to cancel my Patreon to you and use that money to buy some Oleander music. Thanks for the tip CPRM!

        1. CPRM

          New in 2003. Sadly I don’t think they’re together anymore, I think their last release was in 2013

        2. kinnath

          Is that new?

          ’90s I think. I have the CD.

          1. kinnath

            oops, missed it by a few years.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      I’m really hoping that the tweet was in response to Ilhan Omar’s earlier tweet

      Anyone want to bet over/under on how long it takes her to fire off a press release condemning the bigotry of having Mohammad ride shotgun?

      1. Urthona

        BTW, Ihan Omar’s tweet was extremely bigoted against Christian culture.

        I’m not religious and don’t much care myself, but you couldn’t get away with that against any other religion I don’t think.

        1. leon

          “don’t much care myself”

          I don’t care much either, I don’t think it was particularly funny, but my sense of humor may be different. What does bother me is that (as you pointed out) they want others to respect them, but show none. It’s bad faith and hypocritical. But of course Hypocrisy has been established as a main tenent of progressive thought due to “Systemic, cultural and historical privilege”.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            In the case of Somalis, they’re mostly victims of themselves.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          The worse thing about it was that it wasn’t even that funny. But you are right, it was very dismissive of Pence’s beliefs.

          And you are right that she would be one of the first to be outraged if you mocked some muslim’s beliefs like that.

      2. Chipwooder

        The “Who Ya Gonna Call? Goat Fuckers!” reply made me chuckle

  35. The Late P Brooks

    In its quest to cut costs and maximize profits, Amazon is reportedly looking to eliminate product quantities that it can’t make money on. These goods, codenamed CRaP, are offerings that Amazon “Can’t Realize a Profit” on, once you factor in shipping costs.

    Those MONSTERS!

    *crawls off in general direction of fainting couch*

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      What??!! I’m not going to be able to get fifty pound bags of dog food for less than I pay at the local grocery store anymore?

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Don’t worry Brooks. Super Woman is on the job, helping fight Amazon.

      Minnesota Amazon workers, Somali community leaders and their allies rallied in suburban Minneapolis at the height of the busy holiday season to demand better working conditions.

      Joining them Friday evening at an Amazon warehouse in Shakopee was U.S. Rep.-elect Ilhan Omar, who’s the first Somali-American and one of the first two Muslim women elected to Congress.

      I wonder if she is worried about too many Somalis moving from her district out to Shakopee to be closer to their jobs. That might make her vulnerable to a primary fight in two years (especially if she beclowns herself).

      1. MikeS

        especially if she beclowns herself

        You mean other than campaign finance violations and marrying her brother to avoid the proper immigration process?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          My hope is that she irks the establishment Dems enough that they put a fatwa on her and give the MSM press the greenlight to look into her “marriage”.

      2. leon

        “who’s the first Somali-American ”

        How far do you get down the qualifications before it becomes ridiculous to be keeping track.

        1. Rhywun

          Don’t hold your breath waiting for “first San Marino-American” or “first Liechtenstein-American”.

  36. Winston

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2012/05/curley_effect_i.html

    James Michael Curley, a four-time mayor of Boston, used wasteful redistribution to his poor Irish constituents and incendiary rhetoric to encourage richer citizens to emigrate from Boston, thereby shaping the electorate in his favor. Boston as a consequence stagnated, but Curley kept winning elections.

  37. Suthenboy

    I am going to say it again because it gives me such great pleasure.

    Hillary lost. She isnt president today. She isnt going to be president tomorrow. She is never going to be president. Never. Ever. It is never going to be her turn.

    Ha ha ha.

    1. MikeS

      I love heartwarming comments like this. Especially this time of year. God bless you Suthen’ for sharing the Christmas spirit!

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      She’s going to run again so we’ll see.

    3. Raston Bot

      Trump’s legacy: Gorsuch and Kavanaugh

      Herstory: nobody

  38. Rufus the Monocled

    Poor Mueller. Looks like Jack Reacher never showed up.

    1. invisible furry hand

      I can never see that name without thinking “round” has fallen off the end of it

      1. Urthona

        ha

    1. LJW

      We call them Coyotes around here.

    2. MikeS

      They’ll be just fine. Those things breed like…you know.

      1. STEVE SMITH

        LIKE SMITHS? STEVE SMITH TRY BREEDING… A LOT.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    The city believes he then wanted to flip the home for a profit. Johnston has claimed he wanted to move his family of six into the planned mansion.

    Traverce filed a complaint to the city over the demolition, fearing what a larger remodel could do to the cost of an already expensive neighborhood.

    ‘Demolishing a $1.2million house and replacing it with a $5million house only makes the affordability that much worse in the city,’ said Commissioner Dennis Richards.

    ‘We’re finding there’s an epidemic of these kinds of things happening.’

    This requires a special sort of willful, proactive stupidity. The People’s Republic of Pacifica has a nice ring to it. Just go ahead and secede.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Demolishing a $1.2million house and replacing it with a $5million house only makes the affordability that much worse in the city

      I…. uh….. oh fer fuck’s sake.

      1. Rhywun

        “OK, I’ll build a five-condo building at $1M each.”

        *neighbors go apeshit*

    2. R C Dean

      Traverce filed a complaint to the city over the demolition, fearing what a larger remodel could do to the cost of an already expensive neighborhood.

      That’s a new one. Usually, people bitch about new projects that they think will lower their property values.

      1. Rhywun

        In that neighborhood? For sure. She must be a true believer™.

      2. invisible finger

        California’s property tax laws create a whole lot of unintended consequences.

  40. Rebel Scum

    Gun Confiscation Begins in New Jersey

    The law, signed by Gov. Phil Murphy in June along with five other new gun laws, gave New Jersey gun owners who currently possess the magazines in question 180 days to either surrender them, permanently modify them to only accept up to 10 rounds, or transfer them to somebody who is allowed to legally own them. The deadline is set to expire on Monday.

    A lawsuit brought by the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs and supported by the National Rifle Association failed on Thursday as the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals declared the confiscation law constitutional. Any civilian caught in possession of a magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds may be arrested and prosecuted. Possession of such magazines after the deadline will be considered a crime of the fourth degree under state law and carry up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both.

    Nearly all modern full-size or compact handguns and rifles sold in the United States come standard with magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition…

    Judge Patty Shwartz, an Obama appointee, wrote for the majority that the law serves a legitimate public safety purpose…

    “Today we address whether one of New Jersey’s responses to the rise in active and mass shooting incidents in the United States — a law that limits the amount of ammunition that may be held in a single firearm magazine to no more than ten rounds — violates the Second Amendment, the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause, and the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause,” she wrote. “We conclude that it does not. New Jersey’s law reasonably fits the State’s interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home. The law also does not violate the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause because it does not require gun owners to surrender their magazines but instead allows them to retain modified magazines or register firearms that have magazines that cannot be modified. Finally, because retired law enforcement officers have training and experience that makes them different from ordinary citizens, the law’s exemption that permits them to possess magazines that can hold more than ten rounds does not violate the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause.”

    1) The “public safety” exception must have been left out of my copy of the Constitution, as is the limit of self-defense being “in the home”. 2) Good lord, no they are not different than “ordinary citizens”. They are citizens hired to enforce the law. This is a literal violation of equal protection. This fucker would look you dead in the eye while pissing on you and say it’s rain. Not to mention his “taking is not taking” or registration reasoning. Jebus Christ. . .

    1. Tundra

      Supported by the NRA? How? A fucking press release?

      Hey NRA, keep filing lawsuits, assholes.

    2. Drake

      We’ve gone around on this before – Judges think that cops get an exemption because they are so awesomely trained, but refuse to make a similar exception for members of the military, Veterans, and other civilians who have similar training.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Police unions and political endorsements by cops in uniform need to be outlawed.

        1. Winston

          Or disenfranchising them as Peel did?

      1. leon

        Makes sense, All the places that Stringently impose the law are Libertarian Paradises.

        1. Winston

          Is Zimbabwe libertopia?

          1. leon

            I mean if we want to keep arguing in bad faith we can, but it doesn’t make you look smart.

          2. Winston

            In all seriousness the problem with “corruption is libertarian” is that it assumes that corrupt politicians want to leave you alone and know their policies are terrible.

          3. Winston

            And the reason I brought this up because of Menendez.

          4. leon

            “corruption is libertarian”

            Well if you took the time to skim through Pie’s article you would see that he was not arguing that. He was saying that Corruption can help people be more “free”. If you can bribe the cop to look the other way, you are free to operate your black market operation. The argument is not for corruption in crafting the law. Its that corruption in skirting the law can be good for people.

          5. Winston

            I didn’t mean to imply that Pie thinks that way but some do:

            https://tucker.liberty.me/in-praise-of-political-corruption-marion-barry-edition/

            So long as there is government, the only real way to make the economy and society function properly is for government to be corrupt. The best form of government is no government. The second best form of government is corrupt government.

    3. leon

      “Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home.”

      Hmm I missed the “in the home” part of the Second Amendment.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      When did Amazon quietly push out the edited version of the Bill of RIghts that contains the phrase “in your home”?

      As always, I am sure that the “in your home” modified applies to the 1A as well. So you can speak freely in your home, but the State can ring you up for hate speech in public.

      1. WTF

        “Like all constitutional rights, the first amendment is subject to reasonable, common-sense restrictions.”

    5. prolefeed

      I’m taking it this will end up before SCOTUS? It doesn’t seem like anything that would get a majority opinion there.

      1. R C Dean

        It doesn’t seem like anything that would get a majority opinion there.

        SCOTUS has been running away from Heller as fast as it can, mostly by letting lower court decisions upholding gun control stand without being reviewed.

        1. WTF

          Yes, SCOTUS is notorious for letting anti-second amendment 3rd circuit decisions stand. Like when they declined to take up the 3rd circuit’s decision in Drake where they ruled that New Jersey prohibiting bearing of arms does not burden the right to bear arms.

    6. Lachowsky

      “or transfer them to somebody who is allowed to legally own them.”

      i.e. agents of the state.

    7. Don Escaped Texas

      I like a bunch of individual janquis, but these head-scratchers keep coming up. As to the betrodden in Jersey, I recommend they move: to Michigan.

      I can’t help but observe that the Southern urge to resist such centralized over-reaches remains the closest approach to the American ideal.

      * checks pistol, re-holsters *

      * goes to play golf *

    8. Lachowsky

      New Jersey’s responses to the rise in active and mass shooting incidents in the United States

      Objection. Cites facts not in evidence

      1. Rhywun

        IIRC recent gun-grabbing efforts in NY and CT got like single-digit compliance. I’m guessing the intent here is more to pile on offenses when they paw through your car during a stop or something.

        1. Lachowsky

          We will enforce this law only against those who we have decided need a good enforcin.

          /the state

  41. Raston Bot

    GOP shot themselves in the foot again. instead of forcing the Dems to kick off a senior member in the name of equality, Kamala Harris will remain on the Judiciary Committee. in return, the GOP get to add another one of their own.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I hope they got something in return for allowing her to grandstand for the next couple of years.

      1. Raston Bot

        Not really. Just one extra seat. But apparently it’s not a popular committee despite purview over appointments.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Not a lot of graft in the judiciary appointments.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      I’m not sure. I bet Kamala would have made bank with the claim that she was kicked off the committee because she was too black, too woman and too honest.

      Sure she gets to grandstand if there is another nomination fight, but I bet she would rather be talking about her victim status as opposed to how the Patriarchy snuck a domestic abuser onto her staff.

      1. Raston Bot

        That’s preferable to having her voice amplified at every single judicial committee hearing in perpetuity.

  42. wdalasio

    A retry of my bit of holiday silliness. I ran across the following comment with regard to Dickens’ A Christmas Carol,

    It’s a chilling cautionary tale of an admirably sound business man who was overcome by mawkish sentimentality.

    My response is as follows,

    That’s just what Mr. Scrooge would want you to think. The proper way to see A Christmas Carol is as the story of one of the greatest P.R. makeovers and strategy adjustments in the Victorian era.

    Think, you hear precious little about what happened with Scrooge’s business career post-“haunting”. It certainly isn’t implied in any way that his finances suffered. And, as I’ll show, there’s good reason to think they were probably much enhanced by his “change of heart”.

    While the firm of Scrooge & Marley was evidently successful, it’s also clear that the one thing it was not was poised for growth. It operated with a staff of only two – Scrooge, the CEO, and his clerk Bob Cratchit. Whatsmore, it’s clear that, as a firm, Scrooge & Marley wasn’t a business other firm’s dealt with by choice. Other businessmen looking to take up a collection didn’t even know if he was Mr. Scrooge or Mr. Marley.

    Now, this was the Victorian era, a period where England was about to see an unprecedented surge in prosperity. And untold fortunes could be had by firms well-positioned to take advantage of England’s increased wealth, which Scrooge & Marley was not. So, a cunning, self-interested, ambitious Ebenezer Scrooge would certainly know that he needed to revise his business strategy if he wanted to take advantage of these new opportunities. The problem was that his reputation as a miserly, miserable misanthrope would pose a possibly insurmountable obstacle in doing so. So, Ebenezer Scrooge would have needed a major P.R. makeover to have a hope of being able to execute successfully on an expansion strategy.

    So, let’s consider some of the things that would be necessary to expand. It’s pretty clear, if Scrooge was one of the richest men in London, that he could have only operated with only one person on staff if that one person was an incredibly talented and capable employee. Far from the common image of Bob Cratchit as a bumbling incompetent, it’s pretty clear he Cratchit himself was something of an administrative savant, albeit probably one with self-esteem issues. Certainly, a growth strategy would require keeping Cratchit on board. It’s no surprise then, that Scrooge decides to double his salary. It’s clearly an insurance strategy to keep him from getting poached away in an expanding market. Throw in a turkey, a bowl of punch, and a couple of extra scuttles of coal and he’s bought the man’s loyalty for life. Heck, he’s even talking to Cratchit about his kid going to work for him.

    Now, we come to the question of the apparently large charitable donation. With that one coup, Scrooge goes from being a mean old miser to the talk of the town. This rather immediately burnishes his reputation and makes him a much more attractive business associate. And it’s undoubtedly tax deductible.

    Finally, consider the matter of Scrooge’s nephew, Fred. It’s apparent that, although young and poor, Fred has, in fact, inherited some of the family head for business. In the “Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come” story. Cratchit mentions Fred hiring one of his children. So, we know Fred has the acumen to eventually make a go of things. Now, what would be better for a growth strategy than to bring Fred into the business. Sure, much of his network are probably also young and poor, but that’s something Scrooge is right in calculating will change over time. As the economy expands on new technologies and expanded markets, Fred is much more likely than Scrooge to have a network that can tap into those technologies and markets. And here’s the real kicker, Fred can be brought on for only a little more than promises about the future. Fred knows he’s poised to inherit Scrooge & Marley. Scrooge will be able to leverage that to have him come on board at a discount to his actual value on the market.

    One of the points made repeatedly in A Christmas Carol is that these kindnesses that differentiate the “new” Scrooge from the “old” Scrooge aren’t at all terribly costly. And, if Ebenezer Scrooge wants to see Scrooge & Marley thrive in an expanding market, he’s a sharp enough business operator to realize that they’re acceptable expenses to get that enhanced revenue portion of his income statements.

    1. Urthona

      Nice.

    2. commodious spittoon

      WHYCOME YOU NO MAKE PICTURES ‘STEAD OF A BUNCH OF WORDS, CUCK

      THIS AIN’T BOOK CLUB

      (I did in fact enjoy reading that. And the whole bit with Scrooge plonking some poor guttersnipe with a guinea and demanding he fetch a turkey wasn’t what I’d call charitable.)

      1. wdalasio

        And the whole bit with Scrooge plonking some poor guttersnipe with a guinea and demanding he fetch a turkey wasn’t what I’d call charitable.

        Ah, I hadn’t thought about that bit. I was thinking of his backtracking on his previous refusal to donate to the other businessmen who were taking a collection. But, doesn’t your example fit my point? He gives the kid a decent tip for services rendered and the kid is going to go all over town telling everybody what a great guy he is.

    3. Pat

      You may have a point, although that’s certainly not the morality tale Dickens intended to portray. He was going for mawkish sentimentality and a single dimensional caricature of capitalism as evil, as he was in all of his writing.

      1. Winston

        Dammit I thought leftist politics in entertainment was a new thing. /Internet Star Wars Sequel hater

    4. creech

      I remember, way back, S.I.L. had a version that ended with Tiny Tim saying “And I’ll buy my own damn crutches.”

  43. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Manic Monday: ROOOOSSSSIANS!

    If the evidence bears this out as now seems likely, it will form part of an impeachable pattern of corrupt deception that helped a hostile foreign power catapult a compromised moron into the U.S. presidency.

    1. Rebel Scum

      a compromised moron into the U.S. presidency.

      But Hillary lost.

  44. Rufus the Monocled

    Is it me or has this Redskins outrage died down? Snyder seems to be holding the line and won’t budge. Good for him.

    It takes assholes to defeat assholes.

    Better this than bending and bowing to every person who is offended.

  45. straffinrun

    Comedian defends being forced to sign a document promising not to be homophobic, transphobic, sexist, racist. blah, blah, blah. Lionel is a lot funnier than the comedian he’s debating.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JRZ1z-i3B4

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I bet her comedy set is a freaking laugh riot.

  46. Rhywun

    Amazon’s workers gripe about the company treating them like they’re expendable

    I hate to break it to them, but every company does that.

    1. LJW

      They remind me of teachers. Sheltered from the real job world and always complaining.

      1. leon

        Gosh i cant stand teachers. I have a friend on facebook who used to always complain about how little he got paid. I wanted to look at him and say “Dude, you chose to be a teacher, You knew the pay was shit”. I also hate when they argue “We are so important we teach the next generation, and yet we don’t get paid enough”. You do shit for teaching kids. Start teaching them better and we’ll talk about pay. Finally when they say crap like “We have to pay for our own things in the class”. Yeah and I’ve paid for my own professional development too. It’s something all professionals do.

        1. Pat

          “Dude, you chose to be a teacher, You knew the pay was shit”.

          The pay is pretty good considering the total lack of credentials or accountability required, particularly if you break it down to an hourly rate since most teachers only work 3 quarters of the year.

          1. LJW

            Teacher pay is great, add in benefits and time off and it’s even better. My buddy is a math teacher. One of the few who doesn’t complain. It took me 6 years out of college to make what he started with in salary. During those 6 years his pay increased at a minimum of cost of living. I haven’t seen a raise in 8 years. All my pay increases have come with promotions. I’m not complaining, I love my job.

          2. slumbrew

            Plus, let’s not forget the sizeable automatic bump for getting additional degrees, regardless of how half-assed a degree program it may be.

        2. invisible finger

          “We have to pay for our own things in the class”

          Idiot obviously doesn’t know how to itemize on his income tax return.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    GOP shot themselves in the foot again. instead of forcing the Dems to kick off a senior member in the name of equality, Kamala Harris will remain on the Judiciary Committee. in return, the GOP get to add another one of their own.

    You silly person, nothing can get smaller in government. That would be a rejection of progress.

    Forward, Comrades! Into the future!

    1. R C Dean

      Actually, I like this. It means a single dipshit Repub Senator (yeah, I’m looking at you, Flake) can’t derail a confirmation.

  48. Enough About Palin

    Marines Testify About the “Antifa Mob” They Say Attacked Them in Philly
    “I could have died that day,” one of the marines told the court on Thursday morning.

    https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/12/13/marines-assaulted-philadelphia-keenan-massey-antifa/

    1. leon

      Are we sure those blood thirsty marines didn’t premeditate their assault on those Poor Antifa goons protesters?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      There are assholes in Philadelphia? Who knew?

      1. slumbrew

        Santa knew.

    3. Drake

      ** Shakes head in disappointment at Wing Marines. Arranges a couple infantry squads to visit the next Philly Antifa meeting…

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Hey! Like I said below, in my day even the Wing would have gone out to get some back.

        Maybe because they were reservists?

        1. Drake

          I was a Reservist most of my time – that would not have mattered – and might have made it less likely somebody in the chain of command could have squashed our Philly road-trip.

        2. Chipwooder

          I had the same thought – maybe reservists aren’t as tight?

          We had some epic brawls with airmen from Kadena when I was in Oki. After a while Marine were banned from the Banyan Tree Club, the e-club at Kadena.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            As a rule Marines were banned from the e-club at Kadena when I was there.

            We were doing some joint training with the Kadena ATC folks so we got special “club cards” that would allow you in.

            Yeah, when I was in Okinawa there were at least two major brawls between our unit and another unit that was entirely a followup to a fight the previous week. One time was to get revenge for some our ours getting jumped. The other was because we knew the other unit was out looking for some payback against our guys for the previous fight.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      Not a good showing for the air wing of the Marines though.

      I’m a bit flummoxed though that these two guys haven’t been visited by some of these Marines squadron mates yet. I think that in my day, we would have gone out and exacted some revenge on any antifa assholes if one of my squadron had been fucked up.

      1. Drake

        I joked above, but yes, uniformed Marines attacked on the street? When I was in the Infantry, no question that would have been followed up with a road trip by the whole damn platoon.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          #MeToo

      2. Rhywun

        2 marines against 12 attackers? I don’t like those odds.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          It isn’t that they lost the fight. What us ex-jarheads are mad about is that their unit didn’t show up later and lay waste to any pasty bastard who had a can of mace and a handkerchief.

          1. Rhywun

            Fair ’nuff. But maybe their unit didn’t want jail time, cuz that’s what they would have got.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            I doubt they would have gotten jail time. They might have been brought to the station and then released to their Sgt. Major for “proper discipline” but that is about it.

            Most cops are pretty pro-military. Unless you were fighting the cops, they usually let you go without charges and just remanded you to the custody of the Marines.

      3. Chipwooder

        As a fellow air winger, I agree. There would have been fucking massacres had that happened to anyone in my detachment. We may have been air wing, but we had some orney motherfuckers who were always itching to fight. Several of our NCOs/SNCOs were former infantrymen who had lat-moved into ATC due to injuries that made infantry life too painful.

    5. Raston Bot

      the judge ruled that both men would be held for trial on aggravated assault and conspiracy charges — both felonies — as well as several misdemeanors. The judge also added a felony charge of ethnic intimidation against Keenan.

      i assume those felonies will be plead down to misdemeanors, probation, and time served.

  49. Mammary Monday bounces into your day!

    http://archive.is/brKvh

    Great collection.

    1. prolefeed

      53 has an OMG hot pose.

      50 for the visible nips.

      23 has the pretty lactating virgin thing going.

      1 wins the THICC award.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        SHUT UP!

        I’m at work and the summary makes it extra hard not to click that shit.

        Just out of curiosity how many Japanese are visible in #50?

    1. leon

      “Trump is not the first president to value weapon deals over even the most basic human rights principles, but he’s the first to come out and say it so nonchalantly.”

      Money Quote.

    2. leon

      ” For instance, both Warren and Sanders (rightly!) rank climate change solutions near the top of America’s global priorities. But any serious proposal to address climate change is going to require the world’s largest carbon emitter, China, to play a leading role. Would a Warren or Sanders administration be willing to downplay China’s near-genocide of its Muslim population if that’s what it took to get Beijing’s agreement to binding CO2 targets? Would it let North Korea’s abuses slide in exchange for nuclear inspections? Could it work toward Middle East peace without the help of Egypt, Qatar, Jordan, and yes, even Saudi Arabia?”

      1. Rhywun

        For instance, both Warren and Sanders (rightly!) rank climate change solutions near the top of America’s global priorities.

        LOL

  50. slumbrew

    Oooh, e-mail from HR: Invitation to Self-Identify

    Sadly, it’s just to (optionally) self-identify as a vet or as disabled, for government contract reasons.

    My dream of responding “I sexually identify as an attack helicopter” will have to wait.

    1. R C Dean

      “I self-identify as intensely annoyed by this bullshit.”

    2. grrizzly

      I have no idea how I’d manage to work for a company large enough to have HR.

      1. slumbrew

        They can mostly be ignored.

        1. Brett L

          Unless the goddam benefits renewal requires me to prove my spouse isn’t eligible for some other company’s benefits. $185/month if you don’t submit an affidavit with tax or SSA backup.

          1. slumbrew

            Ooof. I’ll amend that to “my HR can mostly be ignored.”

            We haven’t yet gone down the “we won’t cover your spouse if they could otherwise be covered” road, though that recently happened to friends of mine.

  51. “Flint Water System Apologist”

    https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1074486397111885827

    Niskanen continues to win praise from neocons.

    As if there was ever a difference between themselves and neocons.

    1. Winston

      The only real difference is that the neocons are more quick to call for war.

    2. Chipwooder

      What is “right of center” about the Niskaninnies? Every fucking thing they advocate is collectivist in nature.

  52. Winston

    https://theweek.com/articles/810564/who-rise-postliberal-world-order

    The target of this ire is “the establishment” — and the establishment is, broadly speaking, liberal. It favors the free movement of money and people, and believes these policies will generate economic growth sufficient both to give people hope for the future and to pay for social services generous enough to help those struggling to keep up. That was the deal: Elect liberals of the center-left or center-right, and they will manage the economy and the welfare state, technocratically tweaking it a little this way and that, raising or cutting taxes a little here and a little there, while for the most part getting out of the way so that the market can perform its magic, enriching us all over time.

    1. wdalasio

      What a load of self-serving malarkey. The technocracy, by its nature, isn’t liberal and isn’t all that interested in getting out of the way. They’ve only preened themselves that that was what they were doing to cover for their own authoritarian tendencies. In no small part, that’s what’s given way to the “post-liberal world order”. Wide swaths of the public have realized that the liberalism that the technocracy was selling them was usually little more than the technocracy stacking the deck to their own benefit while claiming that was a free market and a “meritocracy”.

      1. Rebel Scum

        by its nature, isn’t liberal

        This. The trouble with self-described liberals is that they are not.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      Holy shit, what a steaming load of crap. And I read one of the linked articles (Suicide and the chimera of American prosperity) and it may have been even worse.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    Muh Monopoleee!

    Virgin Galactic is in a race with SpaceX and Blue Origin to send the first fee-paying passengers into space.

    But Andy Thomas, Australia’s pre-eminent NASA astronaut, yesterday condemned the Virgin Galactic mission, describing it as, “go nowhere, dead-end technology”.

    NASA astronaut Andy Thomas has described his discomfort with how Virgin Galactic technology was being marketed.

    “Who said you could do that?”

    1. slumbrew

      I don’t get the claim of ‘muh monopolee’ at all, just “this is a bit of hucksterism”

      “He’s a businessman and he’s portraying that flight experience in a way that I would not be comfortable saying.”

      “It’s true that he will fly to the edge of space but he can’t stay there. He falls right back down.

      “It’s really just a high altitude aeroplane flight and a dangerous one at that.”

      I think we’d all agree with this:

      But Dr Thomas expressed his scepticism about the benefit of having Virgin Galactic’s operations based in the state.


      “But he would probably ask for huge tax incentives to do that.

      And this:

      He said: ”What he is spinning-off is the capability to launch satellites, small satellites from under the wing of an aircraft on a small booster,”

      “That’s why, despite my criticisms of what he’s trying to do in human space flight, I think in terms of the satellite technology and the capabilities of launching vehicles, it’s something we should support.

  54. LJW

    This weekend I witnessed the greatest ever trolling at my extended family Christmas. Most of my family is Republican (Libertarian and they don’t know it), with exception to my cousin and his wife who are leftists. My uncle is fully aware but plays dumb with them. Throughout the day he throws out random “can you believe this” comments to them. When they attempt a rebuttal he just continues on the conversation as though they agree with him. It’s a great little trick I might start using it.

    1. LJW

      *greatest trolling ever phone grammars

    2. KibbledKristen

      LOL

  55. KibbledKristen

    So I sent a Facederp message to a woman who I think may be my brother’s sister. At the very least, she’s one of his brazillion first cousins (his grandparents had, apparently, 8 children), but I’m hoping for more. I’ve been watching too much Long Lost Family, I think.

    Keep your fingers crossed!!

    1. straffinrun

      I’m very confused. You sent a message to yourself?

      1. KibbledKristen

        (adoption – it’s a thing)

        1. Mojeaux

          FWIW, adoption was what I inferred.

  56. Rebel Scum

    For you weirdos that think she is attractive: Miley Cyrus risks a nip slip on ‘Saturday Night Live’

    1. KibbledKristen

      As my Ma would have said “she looks like she smells bad”

      1. “Flint Water System Apologist”

        And if you touched her she’d be sticky

        1. Evan from Evansville

          You say this as if it’s a bad thing.

          I, for one, enjoy the sticky sultriness of hot, panting breath, and sweaty excitement of dopamine and nitrous oxide scattershots.

          I’m reminded of a frontman in one of my bands during a side-project show. “Who wants to have sex with sweaty bitches?!” he cried out with seeming derision.

          Uh…me?

          1. “Flint Water System Apologist”

            You are a complicated man

          2. Evan from Evansville

            I’m talkin’ ’bout meShaft.

          3. KibbledKristen

            She doesn’t look like she smells like sweat. She looks like she smells like day-old cigarettes, coffee breath, and dirty socks.

    2. now now… I wouldn’t marry Miley or even have a long-term relationship for her. But I bet she would be fun to party with. And at my age, I would probably me the most likely to die from the experience.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Cause of death: Cocaine induced atrial fibrillation or, alternatively, complications from advanced neurosyphillus.

        Probably best to steer clear.

        1. Evan from Evansville

          Baby.

  57. Pat

    So apparently The Weekly Standard is publishing its last issue today. Now long before Niskanen scoops up the intellectual powerhouses that are Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes?

    1. KibbledKristen

      All I can think of when I hear the name Fred Barnes in the SNL McLaughlin Report parody

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        WRONG!!!!

        1. Rhywun

          That was the only Sunday news show worth a damn. RIP

          1. “Flint Water System Apologist”

            True. It’s still on via YouTube, but you can never replace John McLaughlin.

        2. slumbrew

          You all had Special K with banana!

        3. KibbledKristen

          Patty-Patty Buke-Buke

    2. “Flint Water System Apologist”

      Looking forward to the bidding war between Reason, CATO, and Niskanen

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Kristol’s going to need a cooler wardrobe in order for Reason to consider him.

    3. Drake

      Bomb everyone in the world, then let them move here!

      They get paid to write it over and over in different ways. It beats working for a living.

    4. Chipwooder

      I thought Kristol was already one of Niskanen’s advisors?

      1. “Flint Water System Apologist”

        What is the real difference between Bill Kristol and Brink Lindsey (Niskanen) on foreign policy? Honestly. Brink Lindsey, Bill Kristol, and Bill Weld have all supported the exact same foreign interventions since the 90’s.

  58. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t get the claim of ‘muh monopolee’ at all, just “this is a bit of hucksterism”

    To me, it came off as a complaint about uncredentialed moneygrubbers tainting science. Maybe I’m prejudiced.

  59. robc

    Madoff victims have gotten about 70% of their lost principle restored. With wins in the remaining lawsuits, it could get up to 91%.

    Anything above 30% in these type of situations is unheard of.

  60. Rebel Scum

    Two ex-associates of Michael Flynn charged with lobbying for Turkey

    Two ex-business associates of former national security adviser Michael Flynn have been charged over alleged illegal lobbying on behalf of the Turkish government in the United States and making false statements to the FBI, according to an indictment unsealed Monday.

    Bijan Rafiekian, also known as Bijan Kian, and Kamil Ekim Alptekin of Istanbul were charged after allegedly being involved in a conspiracy to “covertly influence U.S. politicians and public opinion” against a Turkish citizen living in the U.S. whose extradition had been requested by the Turkish government, according to the Justice Department.

    That Turkish citizen is Fethullah Gulen, whom Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has accused of directing a failed coup.

    The alleged plot detailed Monday included using a company founded by Rafiekian, referred to in the indictment as “Company A,” based upon “Person A’s” national security expertise. Person A reportedly is Flynn.

    According to the indictment, the purpose of the conspiracy was to use Company A to “delegitimize the Turkish citizen in the eyes of the American public and United States politicians, with the goal of obtaining his extradition, which was meeting resistance at the U.S. Department of Justice.”

    Kian and Alptekin allegedly sought to conceal that the Turkish government was directing the work. According to the indictment, Turkish cabinet-level officials approved the budget for the project, and Alptekin allegedly provided Turkish officials updates on the project.

    Both Kian and Alptekin failed to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), under which Flynn, the former White House national security adviser, also failed to register connected with his work with Turkey. According to the indictment, Rafiekian was vice chairman of Flynn’s business group, the Flynn Intel Group. The two worked throughout 2016 to seek ways to have cleric Gulen extradited from the U.S. to Turkey.

    1. Raston Bot

      “let’s read every single piece of communication he’s ever had. then we’ll just throw a ton of shit out there and see what sticks”

      1. “Flint Water System Apologist”

        There are about three civil libertarians left in the country. Most of them have thoroughly discredited themselves during the course of this investigation. Their low point was when Julian Sanchez (CATO’s “civil liberties expert”) was enraged that House Republicans were demanding that FBI reports of the investigation be declassified.

        1. Winston

          Were there ever more than three? Considering how quite a few “civil libertarians” behaved in WWII or what they thought of the Soviet bloc I do wonder…

    2. CPRM

      That’s one hell of a convoluted conspiracy.

      “We need to get him back to Turkey.”
      “I’ll start a business!”
      “How is that going to help?”
      “Uh, I’ll get an American intelligence guy to work with.”
      “I still don’t see it.”
      “Um, you’ll pay for it.”
      “I think we’re talking past each other here.”
      “Something, something…profit!?”
      “Ok, here are the funds.”

  61. Winston

    Shorter Niskanen: Sweden and Denmark are totes awesome and we will create a fiscally responsible welfare state somehow.

  62. “Flint Water System Apologist”

    Russia Fever Dreams is the respectable man’s QAnon.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/russiagate-russophobia-mueller-trump/

    From The Nation

  63. Trigger Hippie

    Late link poll question: Who’s the bigger asshole, the guy in the left turn lane who waited until the light turned green to wave a homeless guy over for some change, thus making me wait through another light cycle? Or me for wanting to strangle him?

    1. invisible finger

      You. For not wanting to strangle both of them.

    2. Homeless people are to be run over, not to be heard.

    3. “Flint Water System Apologist”

      This is why “The Purge” was first invented

  64. Last night I was watching “Dial M for Murder” – and afterward I was thinking how many women I’ve met in my life that can compare to Grace Kelly in the beauty and poise department.

    I could come up with one or two – tops.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      I like my women to be more of a bottom, but to each their own.

    2. Brett L

      You forgot “thank goodness the woman I married (who comments here) is one of them” 😉

  65. Raston Bot

    https://twitter.com/umarsaif/status/1073541896759377920

    holy shit the excuses and whining in the responses. a complete attack on the idea of merit and hard work.

    we are becoming a small people.

    1. Raston Bot


      Becky
      ‏@BeckyEscalator

      With a garage?! In THIS economy?

      wotton
      ‏@WottonLang

      Doesn’t have to be in SF! Cheap garages in Montana, many such places

      Becky
      ‏@BeckyEscalator

      1. With what job?
      2. With what healthcare?
      3. With what civil liberties?
      4. With what art/culture/community?
      5. What infrastructure?

      wotton
      ‏@WottonLang

      Hey do you want an “early struggles overcome” narrative or what? How easy do you want it to be?

      1. Rhywun

        To be fair, the stories of oppression I hear coming out of Montana are pretty shocking.

      2. leon

        1. With what job?
        – Isn’t that what you are doing in your garage?
        2. With what healthcare?
        – Hey with no income at first it can get it for free!
        3. With what civil liberties?
        – Well Property Ownership and Self defense to start…
        4. With what art/culture/community?
        – Didn’t know that Art was required for a startup
        5. What infrastructure?
        – You really think that it’s Somalia outside of California don’t you?

        Hey do you want an “early struggles overcome” narrative or what? How easy do you want it to be?

        Exactly. Becky sounds like the kind of person who wouldn’t know left if train plowed through her right side.

      3. “Flint Water System Apologist”

        “4. With what art/culture/community?”

        Why is this important? You need art galleries nearby in order to invent something?

      4. R C Dean

        What infrastructure?

        Umm, sweetie, CA has some of the most dilapidated infrastructure in the whole country. It has been underinvesting in maintenance and expansion for a generation or more.

        With what art/culture/community?

        And, here’s the tell. She is far less interested in actually inventing shit and starting a company than she is in “being” an inventor/entrepeneur and living a hip urban life.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      Yeah, the whining is incredible. The fact is, those young businesses would have loved the stuff available to entrepreneurs today. Digital mailboxes, swanky shared workspaces on the cheap, telecommuting, relatively cheap online advertising, free or inexpensive applications to handle just about any business function, etc.

      In fact, three of the companies mentioned (Apple, Amazon and Google) have helped to make starting a business easier than ever.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    Madoff victims have gotten about 70% of their lost principle restored. With wins in the remaining lawsuits, it could get up to 91%.

    How many of those people complained to the SEC about their “fishy” ~20% annual rate of return?

    1. Brett L

      70% seems cheap for the lesson of “too good to be true always is”.

  67. The Late P Brooks

    Doesn’t have to be in SF! Cheap garages in Montana, many such places

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO1111!!!!