Revolvers B.C.
In the history of sixguns, there are two periods of time to be considered: Before Sam Colt, and after Sam Colt. The Before Colt (B.C.) era was the time of the flintlock, and a surprising number of innovative repeating guns were made during this time, mostly custom jobs and one-offs. But there is one B.C. revolver that stands out, and that is the Collier.
Elisha Collier was a Boston inventor, and his revolver was unique in one respect among flintlock repeating guns; it used a cylinder separate from the barrel to carry the arm’s multiple charges, rather than the pepperbox-styled arrangements that were found prior to his time. Collier’s first flintlock revolvers around 1814 and production continued up to about 1824, all guns being made by John Evans & Sons of London. Estimates of numbers produced vary but are almost certainly under 500, in both handgun and long gun versions.
The Collier revolver was a fine piece for its day. It was innovative, well-made, well appointed and, given the shortcomings of its flintlock ignition system, reliable. One of Collier’s innovations was an automated priming mechanism in the flintlock’s frizzen, that made possible repeated shots without re-priming the pan. But the limitations of the flintlock remained; the guns, like all flintlocks, were vulnerable to wet and wind. The advent of the percussion cap would change all that, but while Collier’s London manufacturer produced a few models using the newfangled percussion ignition system, for the most part Elisha Collier missed that boat.
The real impact of the Collier revolver was not to come from Britain. It came instead from a young cabin boy aboard the brig Corvo, who saw a Collier revolver on board ship and set to thinking about revolving repeaters. That cabin boy’s name was Samuel Colt.
The Advent of Colonel Colt
There’s a reason that the saying “God created men, Colonel Colt made them equal” was a truism in the old West. The form of the modern wheelgun was in large part designed and defined by Sam Colt, and with the Colt revolver came the advent of the modern personal sidearm.
The young Samuel Colt was an interesting character. As a youth he was intrigued by gunpowder, electricity – he made one of, if not the first underwater electrically-fired explosive device – and manufacturing. He’s known for pioneering revolver designs but also pioneered mass production and the use of interchangeable parts along with his contemporary Eli Whitney. He also was among the first to dabble in such modern marketing techniques as celebrity endorsements, soliciting Italy’s King Victor Emmanuel II among others to make prominent use of his revolvers. He used art liberally in advertising, paying substantial sums to have artists produce heroic scenes of the West featuring use of his revolvers in fighting outlaws and Indians. A Renaissance Man he may not have been, but he was a brilliant inventor and marketer, and he changed the nature of sidearms forever.
While the Collier revolver may have been the inspiration for Colonel Colt, he had the advantage of the new percussion cap ignition system. After making several prototypes, including the famous hand-carved wooden model he produced while on board the Corvo, he arrived on the configuration that defines the sixgun to this day: A solid frame and a revolving cylinder with stops to align each chamber in turn with the single barrel.
European and American patents in hand, Colt obtained financing and set up shop in Paterson, New Jersey, calling his operation the Patent Arms Manufacturing company.
The Paterson Colts
Colt’s first revolver venture only ran for six years, from 1836 to 1842. In that time the company produced 2,350 sidearms, 1,450 revolving rifles and carbines, and 460 revolving shotguns.
The early Paterson revolvers were iconic, innovative and popular, but in hindsight weren’t terribly effective. The lack of a trigger guard is noticeable, the guns having a fragile folding trigger that extended when the hammer was cocked. The first models had to be partially disassembled to be reloaded. But Colt finally achieved a measure of success with the .36 caliber Belt Model #5,
commonly known as the Texas Paterson.
By modern standards the ergonomics of the Paterson revolvers are pretty bad. The odd-shaped grip doesn’t suit people with large hands. The guns were a little light on the barrel end unless you had one of the 9” versions, making them feel whippy in handling; but the long-barreled guns were not as quick to clear leather, putting the horse soldier or gunfighter at a disadvantage. Even so, the gun pointed naturally and shot reasonably well.
The Paterson was imperfect in other ways. Guns made before 1839 were, as noted, difficult to reload, and all the Paterson guns only held five shots.
Being a five-shooter rather than a six-shooter was a problem for one more reason than the one missing shot. All Colt revolvers up to and including the famed Single Action Army had the same issue, namely that the only safe way to carry one was with the hammer down on an empty chamber. This reduced the Paterson to a four-shot gun, and (at least, before 1839) one that couldn’t be quickly or easily recharged.
Bear in mind that this was an era in which most sidearms were still front-stuffing single-shots, so the handicap wasn’t seen as being as dire as we might consider it today, in a time where many semi-auto sidearms carry enough ammo in a single magazine to lay low a small army of attackers. Even so, the limitation often led to the conscientious pistolero carrying two or three revolvers on belt or saddle.
The Patent Arms Manufacturing Company sold a number of sidearms to the US Army who issued them to troops fighting in the Second Seminole Wars. Those troops favored the Paterson Colt’s capacity, but Army evaluators found the guns too finicky and unreliable in combat and so disallowed any further purchases. Sam Colt did sell a couple hundred sidearms and a like number of revolving rifles to the Republic of Texas, who issued them to their new-found Navy, but when that Navy disbanded in 1843, the Paterson guns were issued to the Texas Rangers. The Rangers liked the revolving guns, which gave them a much-needed firepower advantage over the Comanche Indians, with whom the Republic of Texas was then engaged in hostilities.
It was in fact the use of Paterson revolvers by the Texans and their increasing popularity with the new waves of settlers crossing the prairies that set the stage for the next step in the development of Colonel Colt’s revolvers. While the Paterson Colt was arguably a failure both in martial and commercial sales, and while the Patent Arms Manufacturing Company went under after only six years, a seed had been planted.
That seed sprang forth in 1846, when General Zachary Taylor send a young Army Captain, Samuel Walker, to Connecticut, where Sam Colt was engaged in manufacturing underwater electrical cable, tinfoil and marine mines. Captain Walker had one mission: To convince Colonel Colt of the need for a revised revolver, one that would be more reliable, more rugged and more powerful than the .28 and .36 caliber Patersons. That mission by Captain Walker would bear significant fruit…
…But that’s a tale for Part 2.
Pearl harbor!!!!!!!
Yes, the Japanese dropped bombs on us. But we settled that score already.
Colt made his gun over100 years ago, old news? Or is history not your thing?
Fun read Animal!
If we keep holding grudges, we’d have to go back to beating up the Japanese.
Screw that! I say we get back to our roots and fight the Brits and the Iroquois
We used to play football against a Seneca Reservation high school back in the day…….those boys have some genetics for being very tall and athletic, and we always got pummeled (literally).
Native flu!
We played against a bunch of schools on the White Earth res when I was a kid. Their teams were pretty good until you got to the high school level. Their problem was that so many kids dropped out at 16 that they lost a lot of good athletes.
Mahnomen, MN had to petition the state legislature after a law was passed banning Indian nicknames for high schools. They got an exception to remain the Mahnomen Indians because they were in fact Indians.
Same thing on the Salmanca Res. They are the “Salamanca Warriors” and their mascot is an Indian Brave. I wonder how long until some well intended, rich white liberals, demand it be changed because it’s racist?
Back in HS we played several teams from the surrounding Reservations. The freshman squads were decent but the varsity squads were “homecoming teams” because they had lost so many athletes to dropping out.
The one exception was the “The Arizona Indian School” who got kids from tribes all over the state. They sucked at every level and in every sport. During the middle of a wrestling match my match was delayed because the AIS team starting a brawl among themselves because of a comment when a kid on their team was pinned.
Same but with hockey. Most of them were Metis but no difference.
Happened here, even in spite of local Indian support for nicknames.
I guess I haven’t been keeping up. Latest is schools can keep the nicknames if they pay off one of the local tribes to secure their blessings.
Grievance mongers pushing this crap aren’t happy with seeing their plans getting sidelined.
Don’t bring a zero to a nuke fight.
To be fair, they didn’t know it was going to be a nuke fight.
Fair? What history did you read?
Look, the proper admonishment would be the remarks from Admiral Yamamoto about how bad an idea it was to piss off the more resource rich and heavily industrialized US. The “We ended it with Nukes” was an impossible to forsee factor at the time they dun fucked up.
+1 Sleeping Giant
But that’s not nearly as short and pithy, even if it’s more historically accurate.
Thanks for the reminder Yusef, I would not have remember otherwise.
I have my great-uncle’s revolver and cartridge belt in a place of honor in my living room. The family stories about him (and that gun) are basically the first part of Lonesome Dove (when they were stealing cattle in Mexico), with a breakout from a Mexican jail and a killing (maybe even in self-defense) thrown in for good measure.
I assume he was a Texan? That is about the coolest family heirloom I can think of short of a family sword……
New Mexico.
That’s really cool. Did you ever read The Border Trilogy by Cormac McCarthy? I think he absolutely nailed the culture/period/ heritage of the NM boot-heel.
I haven’t. I’ll have to look into it.
Some people get turned off on McCarthy because of his writing style. I for one do not thing he’s overrated.
took a while to get used to the lack of punctuation. Blood Meridian is just so damn gritty and desperate that using quotations and checking their grammar would just muck it up.
I agree, once you get used to it you see the genius behind it. Blood Meridian is one of the best/worst books I’ve ever read. It stayed with me a long time after I read it. I went back and listened to it on audible a few years ago; that particular audible production is probably the best book reading I’ve ever heard.
Not me. I don’t read much fiction but I like McCarthy.
@ Chipwooder: Same here. I just don’t find most fictional characters believable or interesting. Something about McCarthy’s terse, bleak writing just absorbs me into the novel.
I’ll throw in another endorsement. While difficult at parts, they are amazing books.
Nope. He’s great!
I recently learned that’s actually a part of the United States.
What is the proper name for a sword guard that is a solid plate covering the same area as a basket hilt, but without the gaps?
Just hilt?
The category of hilt includes mere bolsters, crossguards, d-guards, and stranger handle ends yet.
Cup hilt
I think that is called a plain bowl hilt or maybe a plain basket hilt.
Whatever you want it to be — they were uncommon. To get that much metal in that shape it is a heck of a lot easier to use strips/bars (making a basket) than to beat a sheet into a 3/4 sphere.
The technique for making that shape is not that difficult, and a lot more reliable than trying to weld the strips to a basket shape when your only heat source is a coal forge.
And a “3/4 sphere” is far larger than the area covered by either form of guard.
Don’t know what to tell you, other than my basket hilt covers ~210 degrees on the horizontal and 270 degrees on the vertical. Well, and you shouldn’t be using coal for bladesmithing — sulfur is bad.
There is a reason sweeps/rings/wirework were so common, and not because they offered the most protection.
I’m sorry that this medieval fantasy culture hasn’t harnessed gaseous hydrocarbons for their metalsmithing.
When was your sword made?
*ahem* Charcoal *ahem*
The answer is charcoal. Which is not coal, is quite clean, and has been used for a long, long time.
And my claymore is quite modern. Blade made c. 2008, but the basket is cast off of an 18c. Scottish original. Cuts nicely.
From what I’ve been able to check from work (“weapons” sites get blocked), the area covered by the basket got wider as time went on, so there’s this progression from bent quillions and ring guards all the way up to “Where’s the hole for the hand again?”
Here is a cheap book full of pretty pictures and with decent-or-better information which might serve you as a reference:
https://smile.amazon.com/Swords-Hilt-Weapons-Carlton-Books/dp/1853758825/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1544209740&sr=1-1&keywords=swords+and+hilt+weapons
Sword-lore is fascinating, because it’s a field in which a tiny number of “experts” have been able to completely dominate the conventional wisdom. Like Oakeshott — literally just one dude who thought swords were cool, divided them into types that made sense to him, and all of a sudden if you disagree with his conclusions, you’re wrong
I’ve never been able to made heads or tails ofOakeshott, probably because I never spent much time on him. My view has always been one of “Swords are a technology, so the classification is one of evolution and innovations in response to armor and tactics”
So while aesthetically, I like the cruciform hand and a half sword best, I admit it has its time and role.
At the moment my mind is on the broadsword used by the narrator’s mercenaries and how it compares to the blades he’s accustomed to. The guard envisioned is a solid piece covering maybe a quarter to a third of a sphere around the grip. It has a wide, chopping blade somewhat shorter and rounder of tip than the weapons of the people he’s facing.
Being me, I wanted to root out the proper terminology.
So, like the guard of a model 1913 saber mounted on a falchion?
There was pretty much every blade type mounted with a “Sinclair” hilt, but the solid piece was protecting the outside of the hand with a gap between it and the knuckle bow.
I didn’t expressly state it, but it’s straight-bladed and double-edged.
And the guard in the exemplar of the 1913 saber I found covers way too much by the top and not enough over the knuckles.
There is a reason sweeps/rings/wirework were so common,
I suspect there were several reasons, one of them having to do with weight and balance.
Honestly, balance has so little to do with the hilt construction it’s not funny. Blade shape is vastly more important.
Also, the more elaborate hilt designs are on swords where thrusting is the primary attack mode, again minimizing the importance of balance.
Interesting. I’ve only trained with a katana, and not with Western blades. I’ve seen pommels that were heavy, supposedly to balance the blade, and was thinking guards would also be affect the balance. But thinking about it, they are right at your hand and won’t really affect the balance of the blade, just the overall weight.
Balance is of great importance when attempting to parry or know where the blade is going to move. While all my fencing experience is with foil and epee, shifting the center of mass effects the handling, even when trying to strike on a thrust. There’s a reason the fencing foil has all its weight in the handle and as little in the blade as possible. When dealing with cutting, slicing and chopping, optimal center of mass moves up the blade a bit.
Oh yes. Of course, the katana not only has no pommel but a tapering tang that only goes ~80% of the way through the tsuka, so it puts almost all of the metal in front of the hands. And with distal taper not being part of most (any?) sugata you get one of the most weight-forward swords ever designed.
But if you were to play with an Oakshott XIa for a while and then pick up a XVI, you’d suddenly feel like you could perform cosmetic surgery with it.
NEEEEEEERRRRRDDDDDSSSSS!
Why, thank you.
Oh, and thanks a lot, UCS, for making me google various sword-related terms. Now I’ve got a hankering for a new sword. Just what I need, although I do not believe a sword would be covered by our policy against knives in the workplace (I did make them put in an exception for scalpels as my little protest against the ridiculousness of it).
Wait, their policy would have banned scalpels from your hospital?
Read literally, yes. Knives are scalpels. There was no exception. Technically, our OR staff had been in violation of the no-weapons policy for years. I can’t be arsed to look it up, but the exception I wrote was lengthy and technical, referring to edged surgical instruments, devices with the primary purpose of being used therapeutically, etc.
I was being kind of a dick, I admit. Still, I have a reputation to maintain.
“Scalpels are knives”. There’s also all kind of . . . interesting . . . edged tools that the orthopedic surgeons use that aren’t really scalpels – chisels, saws, etc. They even have these really cool stainless steel hammers.
And how is a hypodermic needle not a weapon?
I’ve pissed off more than a few HR drones during new hire orientation when they went over the zero tolerance policy on weapons by demanding they provide me a coherent definition of what a weapon was so I could ensure I did not run afoul of the policy
And how is a hypodermic needle not a weapon?
One of my martial arts teachers had a saying, something like “You are the weapon. Anything you can hold in your hand is a tool.”
Super cool, can’t wait for your write up on the Walker Colt. I’ve posted about Empire of the Summer Moon on here before but his chapters devoted to the development of the Walker and John Coffee Hays were my favorite parts of the book.
Incidentally Animal, do you have any hands on experience with a Paterson? I’ve never looked to see if anyone bothered to produce replicas….
I’ve never fired one and have only handled a couple. Pietta once made a replica, but that company has been dogged by quality problems in the past. EMF still lists a Paterson replica, although I have no idea as to quality:
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1836-Texas-Paterson-c531.htm
Good article, usually history starts with S.Colt and the metallic cartridge. Thanks
I love myself a nice wheel gun. As cool as semiautos are, revolvers just hold some kind of romanticism to me. And, as far as I’m concerned, .357 is the best home defense handgun there is.
As my outlaw uncle says, “revolvers don’t leave behind shell casings.”
Neither do muzzleloaders. But when defending your home, that’s not your primary concern.
I think “defending his home” isn’t his primary concern
Euphemism?
I like the fact that I didn’t have to go hunting for the spent brass, but the double-action trigger pull was a bit more than I liked when compared to the single-action pull required on the 1911 that followed it. (chambering the round cocked the hammer).
I bought a .357 hammerless snub solely because it looks cool and I’ve regretted it ever since. The gun is cool but I really wish I had the option to go single action.
You can smooth out a double action with polishing and spring kits. My GP100 trigger pull is a thing of beauty after a little tinkering.
My Ruger LCR snub has one of the best double action triggers of any revolver I ever shot. Smooth, light, and even. It stings like a bitch but it’s surprisingly accurate considering the size.
My GP100 is smooth as well in DA and has a hair trigger in SA. It was used and about 20 years old, so it was modified or well broken in.
Interesting. My GP100 is SA/DA
That’s what I was referring to, smoothing our the DA pull.
I have very little experience to judge against, but I thought the DA trigger pull on mine was awfully smooth right out of the box. And as Timeloose says above, the SA is extremely light.
I don’t shoot pistols much anymore but I enjoy using a scoped TC Contender off a bench and watch cans fly. I never really learned to use open sights well. I did take a deer with the Contender though, at about 50-60 yards.
Yes, the revolver is a thing of simplistic beauty.
+1 GP100
After putting 650 rounds through my new p938, I went back to shooting my Springfield EMP last night. Ah, the joys of going from a 7 lb trigger pull to a 4 lb pull.
I’ve got an EMP in .40 S&W. Love that gun.
I believe “two gun Corky” carried a Walker/Colt.
“You see, if old Corky had had two guns instead of just a big dick, he would have been there right to the end to defend himself.”
Dammit….I really need to refresh more often
if we keep going we can quote the whole scene out of order.
I think it was Empire of the Summer Moon where I read that until the revolver came along, the Comanche were more effective warriors fighting from horseback with a bow and arrows.
When the white eyes got revolvers they were able to finally match up with the Indians because of their increased fire power.
I can only imagine how unwieldy it was to try to load and shoot a muzzle loader, even a carbine, on horseback in combat. It’s no wonder the Comanche literally rode circles around them.
Yes indeed, there was an extended passage in the book about how the Colt turned the tide in the battles against the Comanche.
Bow and arrow were more effective than massed musket fire as well. Wellington wrote a pretty good rant on it.
Archers take too long to train.
Musket-using nations can pull the “We have reserves” card and conduct a levee en masse to overwhelm them.
That was covered in Wellington’s gripes and the reply from the Armaments board. England broke the archer training pipeline to its detriment.
Will Little Bill Daggett make an appearance in part 2? “BAM! That Walker Colt blew up in his hand, which was a failing common to that model.”
Thanks, Animal!
Fascinating history – I’m looking forward to part 2!
Second
Is that where you get into the one special gun that Sam Colt made that could kill anything, even the Devil himself?
As long as we are talking McCarthy and Blood Meridian I thought I’d post this in case anyone who’s read the book hasn’t listened to this EP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swTK5GtqOy4&list=OLAK5uy_klscQSjuy5inUYYIaeQ_vq2cpQA1KBtvc
I think Ben Nichols of Lucero is neat-o.
has a Mike Ness sound. i like it.
Good article Animal.
Here’s a pic of my gf’s only revolver & holster – https://smile.amazon.com/photos/all/gallery/93R_wi2xRtmgWEvStxh5qQ
I’ve got a couple revolvers, but I don’t shoot them much though the j frame gets carried occasionally.
Hmm…better link – https://smile.amazon.com/photos/share/jj52GiXjhN6c30GAIfxk8AyQRyoE0n314tTBaXVtX3F/gallery/93R_wi2xRtmgWEvStxh5qQ
The holster came with the gun.
Great article Animal. I enjoy old west history, especially gun related.
Great article, Animal. I’ve always liked revolvers. I guess due to my fascination with the “old west” fueled by my love of Louis L’Amour stories. I can’t wait for the sequel!
I love Louis L’Amour as a kid too (although I can’t enjoy the same story over and over slightly repackaged as an adult). I’ve never lost my “old West” fascination. Luckily there is a ton or great non-fiction out there that reads like a novel about the old west. Books like that more so than novels tend to be my pleasure reading.
I understand your opinion that he is just telling the same story over and over again. I don’t think that’s entirely accurate, but I understand where it comes from.
Have you ever read his book The Haunted Mesa? It’s a ghost story-type yarn set in ~1950’s. Very good story. The first time I read it, a few passages actually gave me the chills. Highly recommended.
One more unsolicited recommendation: The Hills Of Homicide; it’s a collection of detective stories he wrote. Very fun.
Hey Mike S – my apologies for not getting a review of your BIF shipment in on time. I may slip it into the comments on one of Mexican Sharpshooters Saturday Beer reviews; I still have all of the empty cans here for notes.
Now worries whatsoever. I’m in the same boat with the beers that Hyperbole sent to me. Actually, I’m even worse; I haven’t even drank them yet. I think that will be my weekend project. I, too, was thinking I’d do some mini-reviews in the comments.
I haven’t even drank them yet.
*clutches chest, falls to floor*
I know. It’s the damnedest thing. First it was because I wanted to take a cute picture of all the unopened cans on my John Deere like I did this spring, but kept forgetting/putting it off. Then, it was I wanted to sit down very deliberately and take notes and never had a good time to do it due to various bullshit reasons.
This weekend things change. No more weakness. No more excuses. It will be done.
*smartly strides to the fridge with steely look in eyes*
The cans in my BIF pic were all empty. As God intended.
In the first picture I took, they’re all full. They were just delivered, and needed at least a day in the fridge to get down to drinking temp.
I’m working on pleasing him as we speak.
*blinks*
I think I’ll just go stand over here… away from both of you.
Maybe I should reword that…
Too late, MikeS, far, far too late.
Also, of note to your Louis L’Amour anecdote –
That author dominated Truck Stop books on tape/books on CD racks for decades. Because I am an effete Canadian snob, I viewed them as an oddity and didn’t ever buy a single one.
If you have any interest in westerns, you really should give him a try. I can recommend some if you want.
Or, just tell me you can’t stand westerns and that I should mind my own damn business.
Wheeler has a good series about the “mountain man” in the Rockies. The earlier volumes were the best because he wasn’t milking the character and took care to accurately describe the real landforms. I lived near several of them and the depictions were spot on.
During my brief stint in the pokey as a young fuck-up I saw me checking the shelves. Tons of Louis L’Amour. Three copies of Atlas Shrugged.
When I was in there I didn’t realize how such a small mistake would temper my life. I was 22 and had the girl of my dreams waiting outside. I’d fucked up but I was making amends, doing my time and once this was over I could move on. Nope. Me and the girl wound up having little in common and drifted apart. It was hard to get hired with a record. I wound up boozing and fucking for the next five years and now I’m in a position where I’ll never get to retire, never travel, never enjoy life.
If it makes you feel any better the majority of people who don’t have those kinds of fuck ups in their background never get to do those things either
I was just thinking, “Mr. Mojeaux and I never did that, but we’re in the same position.”
Yeah, don’t be so hard on yourself, Festus. And as far as “never enjoying life”, I don’t mean to sound naive or quaint or whatever, but enjoying life, or not, is a choice you can make.
Or, in other words, kids and houses are expensive.
Tell me about it
I got married on my 24th birthday to a chubby redhead (from a bottle) with a 2 year old, 8 years later broke up with her and moved in with my chubby redhead (natural) with a 2 year old who was already pregnant with twins by me. 6 years later #5 came along.
So here I sit 49 years old, had kids when I was young and will have kids living at home until I am at a minimum 58 and the only point in my life when I would have been child free was when I was young and earned basically nothing (I did not top $10k a year in income until after I was with wife #1)
Nailed it.
We started late, had the kids, but then bought a money pit of a house because we were stupid, ignorant, or just wanted what we wanted and that was that.
Our house (and, well, medical bills) have added significantly to our debtload, which is our prison.
That was us too. My wife was still in college, so we sold our first house and moved into apartment to have more free time. At the time, I was dead set against having kids. She still wanted to and after 7 years of marriage we started using the D-word. On Christmas Eve she announced she was pregnant. 18 months later, we were back in a house and she was still in college….
Not to make excuses, but my late teens/early twenties was taken up by some undiagnosed mental health issues and some serious medical ones for which a diagnosis could not be found. That put me in a hole I never quite climbed out of (and I’m 50).
Honestly, I’m not sure how I made it through without landing on the streets, much less kept a roof over my head.
*much less made it out alive.
I wasn’t in the hooskow, I just made terrible decisions for a lot of my 20s, and am probably in the same boat in terms of retirement. But you meet other women, traveling’s overrated (and/or there are a lot of awesome places in the continental US, believe it or not), and enjoying life is a skill you develop like anything else.
Animal – nice work, fascinating bit of history. Thanks!
Question for the experts: when did the hammer block come into existence? Am I correct in assuming that let you carry with the hammer down on a loaded cylinder?
There was a reason a lot of people had a habit of loading only five chambers and carrying with the hammer down on the sixth.
And on a third read through I saw that was what Tundra was alluding to.
Kind of reminds me of someone yesterday who completely missed my playing along with their Jaws joke. Who was that again…
Do you really want to remind people that you watch Sandler movies?
Yeehaw! Moar history please!
Nice article, Animal! By the way, the portions of Colt’s first factory in Paterson still exist. and a partial restoration is planned.
Another good article Animal. Almost all my pistols are wheel guns. I grew up using them and continue to this day. My Ruger Blackhawk .357 has a full flap holster that has been abused since I purchased both in 1978. When I received a letter from Ruger offering a no cost conversion to a transfer bar I never replied. I just keep an empty cylinder under the hammer like the gun god requires.
Another fun revolver is my Model 1862 Army .44 blackpowder. You had to be a gutsy dude to be armed with nothing but this on a Civil War battlefield.
Normally the people who had revolvers were officers, and they were armed with at least a platoon of soldiers in addition to the revolver.
I know UCS but things can go quickly go seriously sideways in battle. I remember walking the ground on Little Roundtop and being shocked at how close the Alabamians and Mainers were between charges. Even between charges it was an easy muzzleload shot between the lines.
I have three at present. A 1976 model 29 .44 magnum, a 1977 Colt saa in .45 colt and a 12″ h/r .22/.22wmr. I’ve had a bout a dozen classic smiths. Love them. Never owned a semi suto.
Collier’s first flintlock revolvers around 1814 and production continued up to about 1824
19th century revolvers? Next you’re going to tell me that repeating firearms date as far back as the 18th century.
TEH SECOND AMENDMENT MEENZ MUSKITZ!!!11!!!!
Zing! ATF makes a book-of-faces post about giving gift cards instead of firearms for Christmas presents.
The replies are excellent
https://gunfreezone.net/atf-makes-christmas-shopping-suggestions-it-does-not-go-well/
The winner:
One of the things I “enjoyed” in the Waco mini-series was that the shooting started when the ATF killed the Branch Davidian’s dogs.
While the “official” story is that nobody knows who shot first, I find it plausible, if not likely, that’s how it started.
Would you recommend that mini-series? I am forgetting now who did that…is it on Netflix?
Would recommend. Pretty straightforward, some good characterizations, based mostly on survivor’s accounts so there’s little to no copsucking.
The responses are brutal and hilarious.
*imagines internal ATF Memo from Social Media team to management*
“We have strong community engagement and generate very active commentary from the public.”
Oh my god, you really do work for government.
Wait, you thought someone would make up working for the government? Here of all places?
*Runs numbers*
I’ll be working for one government or another until sometime in May.
Retiring?
Government is who we enslave together!
I’m guessing he’s referring to this.
Ahh…yes. I get it now. Thanks Nephi.
If you had boobs, you’d only have to work for them until April.
This seems to show what the ATF really wants is less guns (even legally owned) in the hands of citizens.
Some days I want to buy a gun just flex some sort of 2A rights.
Mill out an 80% lower. Bonus points if one of the following is etched on the side: a Spartan helmet, “Molon Labe”, a Gadsden flag, a three-percenter logo, or a Confederate flag.
Jesus. Tears coming from laughing to those replies.
Looks like Lou Perez from We The Internet TV would love our pun threads.
Something, something, Peak oil, something.
Do you even morning lynx, bro?
Nope.
And the Bakken numbers have been revised by multitudes a few times and I’ve read that some geologists suspect that the estimate could rise drastically again as drilling tech improves. And these are just two plays we’re talking about. There are other very large plays in CO, OK, TX, etc., that also have immense potential.
My point is; largely due to fracking, the US has the resources to be completely energy self-reliant. Now we just need the will.
We had the resources to be entirely self reliant due to splitting the atom. Fracking is just a bonus and plays better to the anti-nuke rubes.
Yes, of course. I kind of forgot that little scientific achievement.
Make sure you don’t have a negligent discharge.
http://archive.is/Kvfvx
Not negligent, premature.
That’s some serious Fapmunition right there.
Sweet Jesus.
Sirius XM has a Mannheim Steamroller channel.
The Mother F*ckers turned SoulTown into Holiday Soul, how am I going to enjoy Funk and Soul Friday if the only Sirius XM soul station is playing horrible X-mas songs. I get having a soul based X-mas channel but why get rid of the regular soul channel, Mother F*uckers!
So it’s just like regular radio.
No matter what dumb programming mistakes they make, that is always trumped by the fact that there is no fucking commercials.
OK, I’ll give you that.
SomaFM wisely keeps Seven Inch Soul going even while Jolly Ol’ Soul is going.
Secret Agent or go home.
I’m more of a Groove Salad man, myself. At least while I’m
wasting time hereworking.Nuttin but the Blues on Saturday and Sunday kpfk.
Just listen to Bluegrass Junction. Best on Sunday mornings IMO.
My mom has that on 24/7 in heaven.
I have to listen to the fucking Mannmeim Cleveland Steamroller every Christmas Eve at the folks’ place. I really need to at least try and push them to Transiberian Orchestra.
Great article, animal. I doubt I’m the only person here who likes stories about businessmen and inventors. And cool gun literature aside, this sort of thing should be interesting to a general audience.
Great work!
Subaru Horror Theater meets Conservatives in the Mist starring Occasional Cortex!
OK bitch. If you think going to Standing Rock and hanging out with the NoDAPL protestors/terrorists for a couple days counts as visiting with average Midwesterns, you are even dumber than I thought.
the most important point to be made is that PEOPLE ELECTED HER.
You spelled installed wrong.
^This. Whenever you think about representative government, consider that every one of the worst politicians you can bring to mind won at least one election. Some of them won several. Some never lost.
She managed to make “NowThis” moar retarded.
OT: one of the greatest hard rock solos ever. I probably have mentioned this before,and if so, no apologies, because it’s one of the greatest hard solos ever, if not the best.
Might as well steal the rest.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/12/07/venezuelan-officials-london-collect-16-tons-gold-bank-england/
I say we rob the shipment.
Lutheran minister undertaking an art project: taking purity rings, melting them down, and casting a
golden calfvulva.https://twitter.com/Sarcasticluther/status/1067068789915668480
I don’t remember the Lutheran church being like this.
Uffda. I got sidetracked into a tweet she retweeted about a NA woman who won a seat in the NoDak house, beating the rep who sponsored the measure that “disenfranchised” NA voters. I very nearly waded into the derp and engaged with the mindless horde. Sanity prevailed at the last moment and I closed the window. Crisis averted.
ELCA has gone pretty far prog over the last 10 years. I remember it being a huge deal when my ELCA pastor got divorced 20 years ago.
Missouri synod is much more conservative.
I don’t care to dig to deep into this chicks bonafides; is she an actual ordained ELCA minister?
No clue, but this is par for the course for ELCA. All other Lutheran synods that I’m aware of are more conservative than ELCA, and, except for Missouri synod, they’re all microscopic.
Yep, just confirmed that she’s an ELCA minister from Colorado’s Iliff school of theology.
Unreal. My parents left the ELCA years ago due to the march left that you mentioned. I didn’t realize it had gotten this bad.
So, a golden pussy, rather than a golden calf.
How many hardcore Bolsheviks had their beliefs called into question when made to smash rocks in the gulag until they eventually starved to death? Was it at least as many as AOC has followers on Twitter?
https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1071115755041800192
she’s threatening to subpoena the president’s son b/c he mocks her?
PEOPLE ELECTED HER
Can’t read that as anything other than a threat to subpoena somebody for posting memes mocking socialists.
I wonder if that isn’t a civil rights violation, actually. A member of the government threatening to subpoena somebody for exercising their First Amendment rights. Imagine if we had an Office of Civil Rights that gave a crap about anything other than managing voting districts under sanctions that date back to the Jim Crow era.
Yay wheelguns.
I recently purchased a Ruger Super Blackhawk .44. Stainless steel and 5.5″ barrel. It’s my new woods gun and I loooooove it.
Yeah, I was planning on getting a .38. Prolly a 3″ barrel, maybe longer.
OT: not only are we locked into Microsoft teams here, but we have to go fill out a SharePoint form to get manual approval for using Microsoft teams… And they wonder why people laugh at our IT department.
Okay, I’ve heard the name, and I think it might even be installed on my work desktop (and not used) but what is “Microsoft Teams” used for?
It’s Microsoft’s version of Slack
*stares blankly**asks internet*
Oh, instant messaging crap. No wonder I don’t use it.
It has some interesting features, all wrapped up in a shitty interface and a terrible web client. We’re required to use it to as that’s the way we get alerted to high priority incidents.
I feel like I’m on fucking Facebook with Ms teams. I don’t need like buttons and gifs to do my job.
We’ve had Webex (nee Cisco) Teams foisted upon us. No idea if that’s worse or better than MS Teams
Miss! The PM links are late, miss!
By a few minutes…
It would be bad form if I did not comment on this article. I like Animal’s articles. I am under the weather a bit so I have been slow lately.
I am a revolver fan. A big one.
Oldest I have, an 1874? 32 rimfire. I think that’s it. I dug around in the safe but there are so many in there it seems to be lost in the pile or I would post a pic. I have my gg uncle’s Colt 45 new service revolver that he used in wwI. I have my gg grandfathers S&W 32-20. I have a Colt SAA made in 1950. I have a bucket full of Smith’s in all frame sizes. I have a double bucket full of single actions in every caliber you have heard of and some calibers you haven’t heard of.
I love revolvers.
Keep writing articles Animal. I love ’em brother.
Oh, I will!