Do I live in a Blue State Now?

Floating around the ether recently is the idea that Arizona is no longer what is known as a “Red State.”  This is not really a new concept, as the media has discussed this since Bill Clinton won Arizona’s electoral college votes when he was reelected in 1996.  Back then, they cited the state’s changing demographics. I touched on this a bit in my review of a Cream Ale, citing a study from the well regarded W.P. Carey School of Business at Arizona State, the majority of people moving to Arizona for better or worse are from California.

This is my review of Dogfish Head Sea Quench Session Sour Ale

So does the election of Krysten Sinema spell the beginning of the end?  Maybe, maybe not.

A pretty good post-mortem of this election can be found on Ricochet.  Jon Gabriel makes a pretty good case that Sinema won primarily because she ran a more positive, aggressive campaign, and was better known in Phoenix.  While McSally being the representative from Discrict 2, which splits Tucson, was not as well known in Phoenix where the majority of the state lives.  She also focused on portraying Sinema as the annoying girl shrieking into a megaphone outside the student union—yes, well all knew that was her, thanks.  Simply put, when half the population of the state does not live in the metro area you represent, and over half of that metro area will not support you, you might be at a disadvantage.  

You WILL turn in your guns, so I can play with them.

I can see this being from Phoenix, because until somebody attempted to assassinate her, I didn’t much know anything about Gabrielle Giffords—other than the photo of her with an AR-15.

Then there was the part that McSally reminded everyone of John McCain or if you are a conservative, worse than that,  Let’s face it, she’s also a retired fighter pilot, a squishy moderate, and neither endorsed or condemned Trump in 2016.  They both even have Mc in the name.

Let’s look at the election numbers themselves.  As I wrote previously, while there are certainly a few shenanigans that I would like the state to investigate, these wouldn’t have affected the outcome all that much, therefore I still do not believe there is much evidence of voter fraud.  That said, as of 14 November, the statewide elections break down like this:

The State Legislature and House Districts break down like this:

First off, note the lack of a Team L candidate for any of these races.  The one that ran for governor, Kevin McCormick, did not get enough signatures to get a name on the ballot.  I reached out to his campaign in the summer, to see what he was about, ask a few questions, and distribute his answers appropriately for the lovely people of this site to tear him apart.  Sadly, he declined.

Where we get to have some fun with the numbers is here:

Feel free to tear apart my math

One thing that initially popped into my head was perhaps a significant number of team red types voted Doug Ducey for governor and declined to vote at all in the Senate race.  This is wrong, as it only accounts for 691 voters. My next thought was the difference between Ducey’s total and McSally’s, just to get a grip on what the damage is. That is -185,978, a difference of 14.67%–okay fair enough.  If we divide the margin of the Senate race by the total number that voted for Ducey, we get a percentage. 3.13% to be exact. That is the percentage of voters, otherwise happy to vote for team red in the Governor race, McSally would ultimately fail to convince to vote for her.  

Looking at the other statewide races we see when team red won, they won by a fairly comfortable margin.  Where team blue won, they won it by a nose. An average of 4.04%, to .77%, respectfully. The legislature did not flip either.  

With regard to the house elections, it could be a combination of the typical increased turnout of the party opposite the one in power nationally, name recognition for Greg Stanton as he is the mayor of Phoenix and the district he won is primarily in Phoenix, and Anne Kirkpatrick being well-known from her failed attempt to unseat John McCain in 2016.  Plus District 2 is made up in part from a district Kirkpatrick formerly represented in Northern Arizona.

For all this talk about changing demographics, one would think somebody would ride Sinema’s coattails.  While you might say Hobbs may have received a favorable bump, a team blue candidate winning a downballot seat is not that uncommon in Arizona either.  Personally, I voted for Hobbs, as I typically vote that candidate for secretary of state from the opposite party I vote for governor—gridlock is a good thing.  If it were turning blue, perhaps a few progressive measures have passed in the last ten to fifteen years?  None come to mind, but feel free to dig around and prove me wrong.

But what has passed? Constitutional Carry, and Occupational Licensing reform are the first that come to mind.  There are even a few that come to mind where team red arguably went too far that I will not link to, but I bet you heard of them.

So is Arizona a blue state?  Maybe, maybe not.

 

Is this beer any good?  I actually tried this multiple times to try to be objective, it really isn’t.  Its salt and lime, like a margarita, but without the class.  If you like sours, I’m sure you will like it just fine.  Dogfish Head Sea Quench Session Sour:  1.5/5.

Comments

442 responses to “Do I live in a Blue State Now?”

  1. Brochettaward

    As a non-native man Florida man, I want to meet the assholes who voted for both Rick Scott and Bill Nelson. Like, that’s a special sort of asshole.

  2. Brochettaward

    Also, it’s science. Government science. Not political at all.

    “All climate change is local,” said Pennsylvania State University climate scientist Richard Alley, who wasn’t part of the report but praised it.

    While scientists talk of average global temperatures, people feel extremes more, he said.

    “We live in our drought, our floods and our heat waves. That means we have to focus on us,” he said.

    1. Akira

      We live in our drought, our floods and our heat waves.

      So are those things classified as “weather” or “climate”? I can’t keep up…

      That means we have to focus on us

      Damn, that’s a fine platitude if I ever heard one. He must have taken lessons from Obama on meaningless, feel-good drivel!

      1. Suthenboy

        Statistically there has been no change in weather related disasters except for hurricanes. Their number and intensity have dropped a bit.
        These fucking lying watermelons are really something.

      2. Not an Economist

        So are those things classified as “weather” or “climate”? I can’t keep up…

        Well that’s easy. If it can be used to support Global Climate Change, then it is climate. If it can’t, then it is weather.

        For the record, just about anything can be used to support Global Climate Change.

        1. C. Anacreon

          Climate Change is the most magical concept in history.
          Everything proves it and nothing disproves it.

    2. Suthenboy

      *Warmista quickly shuffles three inverted cups around on a table top*

      Warmista – “Ok, now which one has the pea under it?”

      Me – “Fuck you”

  3. l0b0t

    Its salt and lime, like a margarita, but without the class. If you like sours, I’m sure you will like it just fine.

    My throat is closing up just reading this; it’s everything I don’t want in a beer. That said, I’m thankful we live in a world where this sort of variety is available. I just enjoyed a Pecan Ale from Abita and it was nice.

    1. DEG

      Same here. If I wanted salt and lime, I’d have a margarita. If I wanted just salt, I’d have a gose.

      1. l0b0t

        I haven’t tasted tequila since 1991, when a night with Safeway brand led to my second worst hangover and so much vomiting on the following morning’s run (14 miles of Beach Range Road) that I was know for months as “That nigga who puked up a chemlight.“. I’ve never tried the gose, what would you recommend?

        1. Gustave Lytton

          This made me chuckle. I gave up tequila for about 10 years after waking up vomiting & still drunk after a night of drinking that stuff. I’d get a whiff of that smell and flash back to that puking. I still don’t drink it neat, but I can do cocktails again.

          1. l0b0t

            Indeed. The smell still gives me the goosebumps but years of tending bar made it tolerable. I could never drink it again though. That and dip/chew would make me vomit immediately.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Dip doesn’t do that exact reaction for me, but a opening a fresh can of Cope flashes back to being in uniform (not a dipper). If cans weren’t so damn expensive, I’d buy one occasionally as a potpourri. Love that scent, along with pipe tobacco.

          3. MikeS

            I dipped for almost 30 years (quit 1 year 309 days ago). I used a bunch of different brands and flavors over the years, but Cope always did, and still does, make my stomach turn just a tish when I smell it.

            I’m with you on the pipe tobacco, though. Every once in a while I think about taking up pipe smoking. But I quit smoking (cigarettes) almost 8 years ago, so I tell myself don’t wreck your streak now.

          4. DrOtto

            #metoo

        2. Akira

          I never cared for tequila. I’ve had the brands that everyone tells me are “the best”, but they still taste cheap, rough, and unpleasant. And that thing with the salt and the lime?? I don’t understand what’s even remotely appealing about that.

          But that’s just me… After all, I do like Campari, so I’m a bit of a gustatory oddball.

          1. blackjack

            To me, it all tastes like cactus. Why anyone likes that I don’t know. Scotch, however, tastes like heaven.

          2. MikeS

            …and peat moss.

            /scotch drinker

        3. Suthenboy

          Middle ’80s for me. The smell of tequila will make me retch even today.

        4. DEG

          I’ve never tried the gose, what would you recommend?

          This one or this one. Bonus if you can find one in the tradition long neck bottle.

          1. l0b0t

            Thanks. I’ll see if our local beer jobbers have them. Those are pretty bottles and remind me of the wacky stretched coke bottles that one once found at every state fair.

          2. DEG

            A warning: Every time I’ve seen the Ritterguts it has been expensive.

    2. kinnath

      I like this beer — I like it just fine.

      I talked to a distributor at a local beer festival. He says it is their number 2 seller now.

  4. Tundra

    I tried it a couple times. In the summer, when the temp here was roughly a million degrees and ridiculous humidity, it was ok. Next, during more normal weather, it was bad.

    Would not buy again.

    First off, note the lack of a Team L candidate for any of these races. The one that ran for governor, Kevin McCormick, did not get enough signatures to get a name on the ballot. I reached out to his campaign in the summer, to see what he was about, ask a few questions, and distribute his answers appropriately for the lovely people of this site to tear him apart. Sadly, he declined.

    I live in a blue state because of the TC metro area. Even the Iron rangers are starting to figure out that the DFL is a fraud. But our L (& pot legalization) candidates are a joke. I have given up on any chance of a serious third party challenge in any election beyond city council or school board. Maybe dog catcher.

    1. hayeksplosives

      The Minnesota Anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31bBU4EL44

      Includes my favorite line “We act Red but always vote Blue”

      1. Tundra

        “Instead of socializing we go to our cabins.”

        Lol.

  5. l0b0t

    May I enact y’all’s labor? Kindle Paperwhite/Oasis or Fire HD/7, 8, or 10? Anybody own one or have any opinions?

    1. Tundra

      You may. I just bout the new waterproof Paperwhite. It’s my third Kindle. I like the Paperwhite best for the ability to see it with polarized sunglasses in bright sunshine, as well as the small size and awesome backlight.

      Price is right, too. The only star I knock off is for the lack of page buttons like on my first one.

      9/10 Would buy again.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Hmmm.. I’m might have to buy again. I’ve had a Touch for years, but the battery is starting to not hold a charge. And it’s big enough that I’ll leave it behind. Mostly I just use my phone for reading as it’s right there and convenient.

        1. Tundra

          I killed my last Paperwhite by dropping it in a hot tub. The few weeks I was without one (the new waterproof one just started shipping) were long ones. I take mine everywhere and can’t say enough good things about it.

    2. hayeksplosives

      I have owned all of them I think. I have a 10 now, love it. It’s marked down to $100 now at Amazon. They make their money on content, not the devices.

      I’d say if you are a woman, the 10 is a no brainer since you probably carry a purse and can stash it. If you’re a dude, I have to say the 8 might be the right thing for you.

      The Kindle is the only thing keeping my house from becoming a freaking library.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        ^^^this

        I still have far too many books. And I don’t feel like rebuying them. For new books, the convenience of not having physical objects makes up for the price premium. At least for now.

        1. hayeksplosives

          I do miss being able to lend my books around to my colleagues now. In theory, it can be done digitally if they have a Kindle too, but it’s just not the same.

          I have a lovely book called “A Gentle Madness” about book collecting through the centuries. Naturally, not a kindle but a hard cover. 🙂

    3. l0b0t

      Thank you both so much. Can either one run Plex or at least be able to connect to a desktop media (music, video, and doc/book/comic) server?

      1. Tundra

        The Paperwhite is dead basic. Bluetooth for audio but that’s it.

    4. What are you doing with it? If you’re primarily reading, I like the Paperwhite. I’ve got the entry-level one. The e-ink display looks better to me and is easy on the eyes, and the battery life is awesome, even if you use the backlight. We’re not a big tablet household, but our daughter has a Fire HD 8, which is why we can do things like take road trips or go to eat at restaurants for longer than thirty minutes at a time. I’ve used it a few times for purposes other than watching Team Umizoomi, and it’s…fine? Like I say, I’m not a big tablet guy so I don’t have a good baseline against which to compare it.

    5. Sean

      I do most of my home couch surfing on the 10.
      Love it.

      I have an old hd and a 7, they’re ok but the 10 way outclassed them.

    6. MikeS

      Depends on what you want to do. If the only thing you plan on doing on it is reading books (like me) get the Paperwhite. It really is just like looking at a piece of paper. And mine is a few versions behind. I wish I could justify getting a new one…just because, but my old one is still working splendidly.

      1. Tundra

        See above. They can be killed. ?

        1. MikeS

          HA! That’s funny. Also, I’m glad to know I’m not the only guy who likes to read in the tub.

      2. hayeksplosives

        I gave my paperwhite to a friend because I often read at night and with the paperwhite, you need light (great for outdoor reading!!) but i needed backlight so as to disturb mr Splosives as little as poss.

        1. MikeS

          That must have been one of the very first ones? Mine has a very nice backlight ( I think it’s a gen 4..maybe). And when turned down for night reading, I can’t see how it would bother even the most light-sensitive sleeper.

          1. That’s my situation. I read in bed and my wife has the most sensitive retinas known to man, but the backlight can be turned down enough to not bother her while still being useful.

    7. Luther Baldwin

      I have a what I think is a Paperwhite from 3 or 4 years ago but then work gave me an iPhone and I’ve never used it since. It *is* better for reading but the convenience of reading on my phone that I already carry around everywhere can’t be beat.

    8. commodious spittoon

      The people who accuse Trump fans of being cultish.

      New York Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is donating personal items to be enshrined in exhibits about her life, lending her campaign trail shoes to the Cornell Costume Collection exhibit.

      The exhibit, entitled “WOMEN EMPOWERED: Fashions from the Frontline,” seeks to display articles of clothing that made women “feel empowered,” Fox News reported.

      The Ocasio-Cortez slip-on shoes are tattered and filled with holes and were worn by the candidate to denote her “hardscrabble” origins. But many critics said she only wore the shoes for a show to appeal to a certain “demographic.”

      *puke*

    9. I have the last gen paperwhite. Besides the fact that I would like physical buttons, it’s exactly what I want for reading.

      E-ink is superior to lcd for reading. The paperwhite has front lighting, which is great! I don’t know what you get with a oasis that you don’t get with the paperwhite.

  6. The Late P Brooks

    my favorite line “We act Red but always vote Blue”

    Like the people who tell me they are “independents” but somehow or other always seem to be rooting for the Democrat.
    They’d rather be boiled in oil than vote for a Republican.

    1. Akira

      Or how about the people who assure me that they are “pro-gun Democrats” but vote for the Democrat 100% of the time even if they are rabidly anti-gun?

      I mean, if you’re a legislator trying to start a pro-gun caucus in the Democrat Party, that’s one thing. But the people who just cast a vote while claiming to be pro-gun are just bullshitting. Voting is binary; it doesn’t matter what’s in your head when you pull that lever.

      1. As near as I can tell “pro-gun Democrat” means “I won’t actively campaign for gun control, but if it comes up I’m for it”.

    2. hayeksplosives

      Before I moved to California or even had it in my realm of possibilities, I joked that Minnesota was trying to out-California California with taxes and proggy laws. But that Minnesota couldn’t afford the Sunshine tax because dang it, Minnesota is Winter 6 months of the year.

      Now I pay high taxes in Cali, but it’s freaking 60 degrees in Late November, thank you very much. And my Rep is a conservative (would prefer Libertarian but will take what I can get).

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Your rep can’t do shit in state house,
        And til next year, more taxes for us!

    3. Suthenboy

      “Like the people who tell me they are “independents” but somehow or other always seem to be rooting for the Democrat.
      They’d rather be boiled in oil than vote for a Republican.”

      That applies to a lot of ‘Libertarians’ as well.

      “I am all about freedom so I vote for the party that hates freedom”

      Turns out most of them dont give half a shit about anything other than open borders. They think that makes them a liberty lover.

      1. Pot messikanz and ass sex

  7. Gustave Lytton

    That legislature mix and party split on the executive offices reminds me of Oregon thirty years ago. Good luck. We’re all counting on you.

    1. Plinker762

      Does your state have a city? If so, good luck, because your state will eventually go blue.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Isn’t that the truth?? City slickers tend to be more dependent on gov’t and orgs to take care of themselves.

        I wish everyone could grow up on a farm and learn to do things for themselves. The more dependent folks are on govt, the more they will vote in bigger govt.

        Sigh.

        1. Plinker762

          I’m not sure, my sisters and I grew up in the country. I’ve aged towards being a libertarian and my oldest sister is a hard core progressive greenie.

          1. hayeksplosives

            I suppose there are always exceptions, but when I see city folks who don’t know how to change a tire and never had a dad show them how to use tools… those folks are screwed.

            As for women like your sister, college beats the sense out of them.

          2. Plinker762

            “someone else will take care of me” is not a good way to go through life.

            Lol, my sister, bachelors from Williams and masters from MIT and has never really had a job, but know how everyone else should live.

          3. Suthenboy

            Seen in a newspaper letters section years ago: “People shouldn’t be allowed to hunt. They should get their meat from the grocery store where it is made and no animals are harmed.”

          4. Nephilium

            There’s complaints here in Ohio that it’s becoming a Red state instead of a swing state. The local rags are complaining that those hicks in the country are running roughshod over the cities. I’m entertained by the reversal of the standard story.

          5. Brochettaward

            When you have the utopia that is Cleveland to look to as an example, how the hell can people not be voting blue?

          6. Nephilium

            Hey now. There’s also Cincinnati and Columbus to look towards as beacons on the hill. And it’s all the Cleveland papers complaining about what should be done to limit the power of those backwards rubes who don’t understand that they need to be protected.

      2. Akira

        A hardcore “progressive” I know actually agreed with me on this:

        Giant cities should not have the power they do over every other part of the state; they are often on complete opposite sides of the cultural and political spectrum. Large cities should be made into their own sort of administrative districts that are almost like their own states.

        1. Plinker762

          I had always thought of some kind of population density based laws, although I never truly believed it would be workable.

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          …or just make them their own states.

          This would of course mean there would necessarily be more people in congress and probably expose more idiots to an already idiotic poiitical class….but I’m sure the rest of IL would be happy to be rid of Chicago.

          1. Suthenboy

            Own states? Each one getting two democrat senators? More democrat congressmen? The rest of us would be fucked.

          2. mexican sharpshooter

            I seriously doubt the remainig rural parts of the states will continue to vote the same way as the expelled population centers.

            Plus the way most congressional districts are drawn where there is a large population center, is to break it up in an effort to either enhance or counteract the rural part of the district. If the districts can be drawn without accouting for the sharp variance in population density would they really still vote for Democrats?

        3. Luther Baldwin

          *ahem* Some of us prefer living in the city AND with freedom. The challenge is to reduce the power of government, not wall freedom-loving people who don’t happen to want to live in the country into our own dystopian ghettos.

          1. Plinker762

            Limited government is the only solution, but I don’t think the majority understands this.

          2. Luther Baldwin

            It is sad, and we’ll probably have to go full Venezuela before people wise up, but yeah, the answer is right there in front on people’s face if they would only fucking pay attention.

          3. hayeksplosives

            Why are people so freaking stubborn about learning from history!!??

            Even living memory history.

            Sheesh.

          4. Mojeaux

            Distance.

            “That could never happen to me.”

          5. l0b0t

            George Lincoln Rockwell, who served in both Atlantic and Pacific Theaters as a US Naval aviator in WWII, founded the American Nazi Party a little more than a decade after the war ended.

          6. hayeksplosives

            I live in a city and love it. Lived in Minneapolis for about 20 years, now in San Diego. But I have changed an alternator, shot a deer, castrated many a calf, and dehorned a few cattle. Run a trot line and gone noodling, put up a bunch of barbed wire fence.

            I do think it helped me grow as a self sufficient human being.

            Do I do any of that shit now? Hell no. That’s why I went to college and have underlings to do the heavy lifting.

          7. hayeksplosives

            An oldie but a goodie. I knew what it would be before I clicked.

          8. RAHeinlein

            If you could spit Beech-nut in just one dude’s eye – who would it be? Glib poll.

          9. Suthenboy

            Barack Obama.

          10. Old Man With Candy

            Whoever is the head of DEA. Or TSA. Damn, hard choice.

          11. Plinker762

            I live in a city and tolerate it only because I’m about an hour away from rural areas where I can shoot, off road and/or snowmobile. I’m working on an exit strategy but now have a business I also would need to move. The city primarily offers easier access to services and labor but now with the internet, except for structural steel, everything is pretty much ship in/out.

          12. If I had a choice, I’d be another hour or two out from the city. Between the job and the wife, I’m much closer to the city than I care to be.

          13. R C Dean

            Well, right now the dystopian state lovers in the cities are sucking the rest of us into their open air prisons. I see no reason to believe cities will become hotbeds of freedom in my lifetime. If the choose is city-states who can’t metastasize their politics over the entire country, or cities who can, I’ll take the former.

          14. This, but with a caveat. The culture in this country is poisoned by the left, and it’ll eventually kill not only the cities, but the rural areas as well.

  8. LJW

    Wow just saw a preview for Vice. Don’t get me wrong I dislike Cheney, but that is leftist propaganda. It’s sad that people will take that movie as fact.

    1. Suthenboy

      My impression is that Vice has been naked pinko propaganda for quite a while now.

      1. MikeS

        LJW is referring to this nonsense

  9. kinnath

    Brew day.

    I’d love to chat about why you are all wrong about Sea Quench, but I have to spend the next four hours starting a back of golden sour ale.

    1. Suthenboy

      We all have our crosses to bear.

    2. Nephilium

      Hope it went well. Today was supposed to be a relaxing day of board gaming, but right after finishing cooking up breakfast I got a support call that took two hours to resolve. Then I had to reheat my breakfast, and eat. But still got some good games in today, including trying out a couple of new ones.

      1. kinnath

        For the most part.

        It was 35, sunny, and breezy. A wonderful day for brewing outdoors. 😉

        I am using up some really old malt. My efficiency was for shit. I think I am going to have to throw a couple of pounds of 6-row into the next batch.

        But, otherwise, everything went well.

        1. Nephilium

          Couldn’t you just mix some fresh base malt with the old base malt? The starches should still be there to be converted. Hell, we hit the upper 40’s today, with snow moving back in next week.

          No brew days on my calendar right now, but I should probably plan to do a batch of my saison soon. I’m partially tempted to do it as an extract batch to have pictures for the first column on making beer.

          1. kinnath

            Couldn’t you just mix some fresh base malt with the old base malt?

            Right. That’s what the 6-row is for. Diastic power of 160. I figure a couple of pounds of American 6-row won’t significantly change the flavor of my all-Belgian malt recipe.

          2. Nephilium

            I’d just think using the same base malt would work better. Of course, none of the homebrew stores around me carry 6-row, and have 2-row for $.50 less a pound then the other malts. I’m still not milling my own yet, so no bulk bags sitting around the house.

          3. kinnath

            The local brew shop doesn’t keep Belgian Pilsen in stock.

            I would have to order and have it shipped.

            The diastic power would be 80 or 90. So it would take more new malt to ensure conversion.

            Two pounds of 6 row in a 16 pound recipe won’t change the flavor or aroma profile, but the enzymes should put me back where I need to be.

  10. BakedPenguin

    OT: I’m not sure which is more beautiful – the music, or the woman playing it – Ana Vudovic playing Asturias.

    1. DEG

      When you’re not sure which is more beautiful, pick both.

      Thanks! That is a good video.

      1. hayeksplosives

        I love her elfish features. Eyebrows, ears, nose. She is definitely an candidate for elvin heritage.

        1. Suthenboy

          I read that as ‘elfish creatures’.
          I think that is more or less a universal appeal. The elves in fantasy stories are usually the equivalent of white hats for a reason.

          1. Nephilium

            That’s why Discworld elves are the best depiction of elves. On a related note, I found out that Amazon Prime has the TV movie of Hogfather on it, the girlfriend and I watched it yesterday. Decent adaptation, with some questionable special effects.

    2. Suthenboy

      Love that. My father and brother are both fantastic guitarists. I cant play anything but the sound of an acoustic always brings back fond memories.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Classical or acoustic? They are different. Lovely elf woman above is playing classical–broader neck, cat gut strings.

        1. BakedPenguin

          This is true. I enjoy playing classical guitars more than regular acoustics, since my main instrument is a bass so I’m used to playing (plucking) with my fingers.

          However, I’ve never played that well, or looked that good (as a man equivalent). Also, I’d be more of a dwarf.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Ha! I scoff at your dwarf designation.

            Your personality alone is enough to suggest otherwise.

            I played classical a little when I was young. Mr Splosives is prolific on acoustic, bass, and electric 6 string. Damned “artists”.

          2. BakedPenguin

            Well, thank you. I used to be so much better on all of those. I’m glad your man appreciates

            I got into a sentimental mood this morning, and tried to play Crazy Little Thing Called Love by Queen, which was a fun song for me as a kid. Then I realized I’d forgotten half the song. Oh well, time moves on.

            Suthenboy: easy way to tell – look at the head of the guitar (the top, where the strings go in). If there are holes/open spaces, it’s a classical guitar, if there aren’t, it’s an acoustic. Most Americans play acoustic, unless they’re playing Spanish (or influenced) music like Albinez, Tarrega, or Rodrigo y Gabriela.

          3. BakedPenguin
          4. BakedPenguin

            Sorry for the run-on sentence. Also, (not that this is a surprise), but from the close-ups, that is a quality guitar.

          5. hayeksplosives

            Here’s my hub’s band in Minnesota. I Yoko’d him by moving to Cali, but what do you do?

            He’s the bass player.

            https://youtu.be/kX1S-658vg4

          6. l0b0t

            Holy Mackerel! Y’all are both bloody awesome.

          7. BakedPenguin

            They’re really good. If I was SoCa, I’d make sure to see them. (I like Skynyrd).

            Also, he’s got a Rick and a Fender? Lucky SOB.

            Also also, I think they played a Molly Hatchet song. Hadn’t heard that for years.

          8. hayeksplosives

            Yup, Molly Hatchet was a staple.

            They were really good together. It was hard to break them up, but I’m the breadwinner.

            Good guys too. That makes it worse!

          9. Pan Zagloba

            Clearly the solution is to bring the rest of the band over and make them your minions.

          10. DEG

            Clearly the solution is to bring the rest of the band over and make them your minions.

            That is a good solution to the problem.

        2. Suthenboy

          You know more about it than I do.
          So, I dunno.

  11. Suthenboy

    Hmm. Beer can Cornish hen, salad and black bean soup tonight. (not really beer can, I use those little 5.5oz V8 cans)

    She’s rubbing the hen now. I cant wait.

    1. hayeksplosives

      These euphemisms. “She’s rubbing the hen now. I cant wait.”

      1. Suthenboy

        And she took the bait!

        Wait, is that another euphemism?

        1. hayeksplosives

          Depends on what she does with it. 😉

          1. *waits anxiously for another play-by-play on Ms. Splosives’ amorous techniques*

          2. DEG

            I missed the first one. Sad.

          3. Let’s just say that Mr. Splosives is a lucky dood.

          4. hayeksplosives

            Q, you really should email me. I have a pic or two that might be up your alley.

  12. Why settle for just one?

    http://archive.is/Z1oyh

    If I did have to settle for just one I’d take 5L.

    1. hayeksplosives

      dude, you had your NSFW all out last night. What gives, man??

      I mean, I didn’t hate it but…

      1. Sorry. Drunk. Middle of the night. No filter.

        Won’t happen again.

        1. MikeS

          It damn well better happen again, mister!

        2. hayeksplosives

          Oh, no need to apologize. I love the human form, male or female. IIRC you did put NSFW at the bottom of each post.

          Your only sin was not to email me at hayeksplosives something protonmail.com.

          1. I love the human form, male or female.

            [Thinks about sexting Hayeksplosives, then thinks better of it]

          2. hayeksplosives

            Tee hee. Yeah, you never know when we might meet up in person or I have to hire you.

          3. hayeksplosives

            I do have a subordinate that I fooled around with once years ago. We’ve never mentioned it and it has been no problem at all. He actually might have been drunk enough to forget (we were competitors at the time), but he sure didn’t mind at the time.

          4. Spudalicious

            Pics or it didn’t happen.

          5. Brochettaward

            S2R pal.

        3. commodious spittoon

          Drunk posting? THE NERVE.

          1. DEG

            I’m going to shock you all, but I’m posting stone cold sober right now.

  13. Not an Economist

    I went shopping today for a few essentials I needed. For the day after Black Friday, I expected the stores to be packed. Instead they were empty. I wonder if it is because of the football game?

    Any other reports.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Internet has permanently transformed Black Friday. Plus, dems won the congress, so Dow Jones is tanking.

    2. westernsloper

      I went to the Walmarts this morning because I knew ham and turkey would be on sale. It was dead, but it is always dead in the AM and is why I go then. Ham in the smoker now. Turkey has to thaw, so next weekend it will be smoked.

      1. hayeksplosives

        I think i’ll pick up a turkey breast or two on my pharmacy journey today. Why not?? Bound to be on sale.

    3. MikeS

      I didn’t go out, but my daughter did. She said Target was sorta busy and Walmart was as slow as a regular day of the week. We were at JC Penney’s for a family portrait later in the afternoon and it was busy, but not crazy. Daughter said the smaller, boutique stores were where she saw a bunch of people.

      Like Hayek says, the internet is changing things dramatically. Why stand in line or get trampled when you can get the exact same deal online?

      1. Luther Baldwin

        Or better. I was gonna buy a toaster oven at a nearby Bed Bath & Beyond. Found the same model on Amazon for less even after applying one of the stack of 20% off coupons BBB keeps sending me. Of course, I had to wait more than a week to get it….

    4. Old Man With Candy

      Outlet stores in Kenosha (the nearest big city to us) were apparently traffic-jam-inducing mobbed.

      1. CPRM

        You guys are closer to Kenosha than Chicago? I’ll extend the ceremonial sconnie case of beer to you then. (you’re supposed to refuse and let me drink it all, it is our way)

        1. dbleagle

          I am jealous that you have easy access to Tenuta’s . I remember it from my youth and when I was on a business trip to the area I made sure to stop in and it was more wonderful than I recalled. I brought home salami, cheese, and anise candy. The only thing I did not have to share with the family was the anise.

          Both my parents grew up in Kenosha and my grandparents are buried there.

          1. CPRM

            Tenuta’s

            Don’t know what that is, Kenosha is south of what I consider Wisconsin. I’m guessing it’s a meat producer, but c’mon, We got Nueske’s up here, SP will back me on awesome the meat is when she comes up this way, and she like’s Nueske’s sausages as well.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            One of the WI-based Glibs (Pud) turned us on to Tenuta’s and we’re hooked. GREAT Italian grocery. Their dried and frozen pastas are shockingly good. Good wine selection, and AMAZING cheese. I’m trying to think if we ever got out of there under three figures, and I’m failing.

          3. But Enough About Me

            Got a place like that here in the Lower Rainland called “Cioffi’s.” Same kinda deal. I can’t get out of there without spending stupid amounts of cash on Italian food. Not that I’m complaining, mind you . . .

  14. westernsloper

    I reached out to his campaign in the summer, to see what he was about, ask a few questions, and distribute his answers appropriately for the lovely people of this site to tear him apart. Sadly, he declined.

    Hope you called him a chicken shit and gave him a big BGAAAK! MS.

  15. We go through this nonsense in CO all the time “is it still a swing state hurrdurr?” Like AZ, the invasion of Cali refugees has altered demographics such that it has gone from Lean R to Purple to Lean D in the past 15-20 years. However, people only pay attention to Prez results and forget that Team Red won every statewide race except Governor in 2014; and Dick-in-pooper was a popular incumbent running against a useless opponent.

    However, the COGOP has already decided to emulate the CAGOP and embrace the role of castrated controlled opposition. They completely phoned it in this year in spite of having several good candidates in winnable races (Stapleton, Brachler, Williams, etc.). They got outspent by some absurd margin, not altogether surprising, but the real issue was having something like 50% fewer volunteers “delivering” mail-in ballots. The state has decided that this is legal, something I think is bullshit, but you play the hand you’re given. They haven’t figured out how to compete in all mail-in elections and don’t appear to care about learning to do so. So, in a state with low Trump popularity in which the electorate is basically split three ways between D, R and UAF, they figured that if their old tactics didn’t work, oh well. Which led to Dems running the table. Either they get it together or the state actually will descend into Cali dysfunction.

    1. hayeksplosives

      I have a sad now. Good explanation though.

    2. westernsloper

      They won’t get it together I have lost all hope. I hear the Legislature will be taking up some (unconstitutional) “red flag” legislation so the asshole, card carrying PETA aunt you got in a drunk argument with at thanksgiving can phone you in and have the gestapo come and seize your guns or quite possibly gun you down like a dog with absolutely zero due process. To many on the left, if you own guns you are insane and therefore should not own guns because who would want to own tools of death. Jim fucking Acosta is required due process when he gets chucked out of the white house, but the fuckers can seize your guns in some states on the word of one person. I fear the next state with this law will be CO.

      1. Agreed. These “red flag” laws are absolute cancer. What you’re going to get are boatloads of people (probably many of them veterans) refusing to seek any treatment for their mental health problems for fear of having their rights red-flagged away. Expect to see an increase in suicides if it goes through.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          And even if the GOP gains control, expect to never see those laws repealed (see just about any gun control legislation), because “common sense”.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I’ll admit I only lived in CO for 3 years, but I think the various clans need to be united by some kind of Trumpesque figure. Someone that is enough of an asshole with name recognition the .mil types in the Springs, the ranchers in the north, the STEVE SMITHS on the western slope, and whatever that part is between the mountains, can all agree on.

      I nominate Dragonman.

      1. Here’s the problem: GOP-friendly places are already voting Team Red in huge margins (Stapleton won El Paso county by 40 points, I think it was similar numbers in Mesa and Weld counties). The COGOP will never win Denver and Boulder, but they need to peel enough votes from those areas to stay competitive in statewide elections; instead they’ve just written them off so that their Soviet-style Team Blue margins (60+ points) overwhelm the rest of the state.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          That was more tongue in cheek, to be honest. I found thst unless it was a ski town, it was night and day between Denver-Boulder and the rest of the state.

    4. They haven’t figured out how to compete in all mail-in elections

      You mean committing massive fraud, don’t you?

      1. Sadly, you’re not wrong.

    5. Hyperion

      Isn’t it already too late for CO now anyway, now that they’re all on the dope? I Mean how can your entire population not be shooting up the pot to elect someone named Lickenpooper, lol. And this guy want to run from president. Someone ought to go ahead and tell him.

  16. commodious spittoon

    Turkey is th

    1. commodious spittoon

      garbage meat.

      1. How to properly repurpose your left-over turkey:

        Shred equal parts dark meat and white meat then place in Crock Pot.
        One can coconut milk.
        Two tablespoons red curry.
        Garlic salt, chili powder and cardamom to taste.
        Two cups broccoli and/or cauliflower.
        One handful green onions sliced.
        2 hours on high.
        Serve with jasmine rice to beautiful female friend.
        Get laid.

        1. commodious spittoon

          My uncle outed himself as someone who prefers white turkey over dark, and dry over moist. If he’d merely been racist or a secret commie I think I’d have less of a problem with him now.

          1. MikeS

            Sounds like my kind of guy.

        2. But Enough About Me

          I object to the green onions being cooked for two hours. They should be sliced or julienned just before serving this dish and sprinkled raw over top of it upon serving.

          Then get laid. You’ll deserve it this time.

      2. DEG

        Friends don’t let friends have turkey unless it is deep fried.

        Go for duck instead.

        1. This is objectively wrong

          /smoked a turkey this year

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          This. Deep fried is excellent,

    2. hayeksplosives

      I know right? *Hic*

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of California

    Siebel Newsom doesn’t project much nervousness about the high-wire act that awaits her. She looks forward to seizing the platform and to making California the incubator of cultural change she has preached for years.

    “We obviously have a long ways to go,” she said, sitting in Newsom’s campaign bus during the final days of the race. “We have tremendous inequality. But because Gavin wants to pri-or-i-tize that” — her over-enunciation echoing her husband’s speaking style — “and I’m in the process of finishing a film that I think shows a path forward … to right the wrongs of the past and shift toward a more equitable society, I really think we could actually do that here in California.

    Uh huh. Power couple, FTW! Make California equitable. Stamp out insensitivity and indifference. Invite the bums to camp out on the lawn at the Governor’s Mansion, and serve them tea and cakes.

    *I thought Gavin Newsome was gay. It doesn’t matter, but I was momentarily confused. I was waiting for the “identifies as” punchline.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Just fucking shoot me.

    2. “I thought Gavin Newsome was gay.”

      I get that sense too. His serial philandering and constant poon-chasing might be an overcompensation.

    3. Luther Baldwin

      Excuse me, hon, nobody elected you.

    4. Suthenboy

      “She looks forward to seizing the platform and to making California the incubator of cultural change”

      Right the wrongs of the past? What does that even mean? They are going to raise the dead? Punish and reward people today who were not even alive when these wrongs happened? Punish people who have done no wrong, reward those who have never suffered? Tokens and symbolic gestures. Let me guess, in the end she gets more power and money. It’s the worst kind of bigotry. The whole idea is just pure evil.

      They just cant mind their own business, can they? God, I hate those fucking pieces of shit.

      1. DEG

        They are going to raise the dead?

        It wouldn’t be the first time.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Or the second time.

      2. Spoiler alert: It means raising taxes and increasing government power.

      3. Luther Baldwin

        incubator of cultural change

        Straight out of the Little Red Book.

    5. Suthenboy

      You thought (past tense) he was gay? What makes you think he is not?

  18. Pan Zagloba

    MLW shared this delight on Discord, and I have to pass it on because it brightened up my day

    Godfrey Elwick lives on. Or sarcastic UK version of Iowahawk.

    Featuring true gems such as

    Feelings don’t care about your facts.
    I’m so sick of the anti-PC brigade sneering about “thought police” as though it’s a bad idea.
    Obesity is not only beautiful, it also means you can have extra-long slogans printed on your clothes. #WinWin

    1. Luther Baldwin

      “Titania” – *snicker*

    2. commodious spittoon

      Titania McGrath
      ‏ @TitaniaMcGrath

      Muslim women aren’t oppressed.

      Theo Harrison
      ‏ @TheoHarrison9

      Really? so the women in Iraq who got rid of their burqas at the first opportunity were just in a hurry to get a breath of fresh air. Or maybe the ones who undergo FGM are just trying to lose a bit of body weight ?

      Titania McGrath
      ‏ @TitaniaMcGrath

      If a few women are getting rid of their burkas they are suffering from internalised Islamophobia. That proves nothing.

      *squee*

      1. Suthenboy

        “Once a person is demoralized you cannot fix them, you are stuck with them. You can take them and show them the gulags and they still will not believe it. They will believe it when the military boot is crushing their balls. Not before.”
        – Yuri Bezmenov

  19. l0b0t

    For those into media servers, storage, and such, BestBuy has the WD Easystore 8Tb USB 3 external drive on sale for $130. These are fun because when you pop them open, there is a WD Red drive inside that retails for $250 -$300.

    1. 8 Tb?! Damn. Might have to go get one.

      1. l0b0t

        Amazon also has the Seagate 8Tb for the same price but the WD comes with known drives. I’m not sure what model Seagate uses inside theirs. I have an ad hoc mixture of 3, 4, and 8 Tb drives for my OCD media collection and pick these up whenever I find them on sale.

    1. Brochettaward

      Just 17 percent of 1,700 newsrooms responded to the annual survey, and those that did likely have a diverse enough staff to brag about.

      I have more coloreds than you.

      1. Luther Baldwin

        I’m heartened that 83 percent of newsrooms told them to stuff it.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          The group was so upset with the lack of newsroom candor about diversity that it issued a scolding to the wide majority of media operations that refused to answer its survey.

          OH NOES

          1. Suthenboy

            Via sternly worded letter?

    2. Suthenboy

      Ruh Roh!

  20. Not an Economist

    Holy shit, I like the game of football but not enough to watch it on a regular basis. This is the year Michigan was supposed to beat Ohio State. The first time in a long time (sports rivalry time). But at the end of the third quarter, Ohio State is up by 22!!!! Will have to see if that holds up.

    I got a friend who is a BIG Michigan friend. He was optimistic about this years game. If Ohio State wins, he may not come into the office next week.

    1. Not an Economist

      My friend would be pulling out his hair — if he had any.

      1. Sloopy is going to be insufferable on Monday. 🙁

        1. Not an Economist

          Sloopy is going to be insufferable NOW.

          My friend may not show up to work again.

          1. Not an Economist

            Two tweets I saw that made me laugh.

            Michigan needed to get out on Ohio State’s shooters and not give up so many open looks from 3 if they wanted to hold the Buckeyes under 62.

            and

            Michigan has 2 wins over Ohio State since 2001. That’s one less win than Hue Jackson had with the #Browns. Let that sink in

          2. Yeah, but he doesn’t normally show up on the weekends, and does the morning links.

          3. Not an Economist

            He’s got 36 hours to come up with an epic morning link.

            It better be special Sloopy … no pressure.

          4. Old Man With Candy

            He’ll be sitting in for morning links tomorrow. Expect a lot of blather about some Little League shit.

  21. l0b0t

    Hey Akira, in an earlier thread you mentioned reading up on advertising/PR. IDK if you are a fan of Negativland or sonic collage in general but here is Don Joyce’s radio series Over The Edge – Advertising Secrets. I found it to be one of the best OTE series and some of the jingles will stay with you for weeks.

  22. l0b0t

    How about some old guy music – https://youtu.be/Tu4kMDh4W_4

  23. Today’s pet peeve:

    New parents who are 100% convinced that the whole world thinks their new baby is as fascinating as they think it is.

    I know what your baby looks like; you don’t need to send me 10^27 pictures of it at Thanksgiving.

    1. hayeksplosives

      That’s the great thing about Facebook or Imgur vs email. You post all teh pics in the world, and people decide for themselves whether to scroll through them all.

      Remember having to watch slide show carousel of your aunt’s vacation?? No escape.

    2. This is why I did an Amazon Photos album for all the family. I upload all the pics there and they can choose when to visit.

    3. Brochettaward

      The Children Hating Club is always taking new applications.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Is NIkki the president?

        1. Trigger Hippie

          You misunderstand. Nikki does in fact love children. But her love is very different from that of a square.

    4. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

      I feel the same way about dog owners.

      1. MikeS

        Check this one out. She sleeps this way sometimes. So cute!

        1. Tres Cool

          How’d you get that bird to hold still ?

          1. MikeS

            He’s waiting or one of the fish to jump out of the aquarium. Most patient bird I’ve ever seen.

        2. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

          That’s not so bad. I have a bigger problem with people who bring their dog to work or into a store and expect everyone to fawn all over them.

          1. MikeS

            But you didn’t say how cute she is!!!11!!!

    5. commodious spittoon

      My pet peeve: people who don’t think my baby is the most fascinating thing in the world.

  24. Brochettaward

    I’m curious what criteria are needed to call a movie live-action. The Lion King movie certainly wouldn’t qualify in my book. A bunch of CGI animals on an empty landscape is not live action.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It would be different if she were actually funny.

      As it is, she’s just signaling the approved opinions slightly more vehemently than what’s acceptable in polite society. It’s lazy and boring.

    2. Suthenboy

      Torched huh? What the fuck is she talking about? That’s just gibberish.

      1. Plinker762

        Maybe as in “the stupid – it’s burning my ears”

        1. Suthenboy

          It’s beyond stupid. It’s not as bad as the ‘we got our ass handed to us over the senate because arglegerrymanderbargle’ but it’s bad.

          Keeping a strategic alliance in the interest of the US in spite of said ally having a horrible human rights record is not the same as supporting the murder of shitty journalists. Sometimes I have to wonder if the lefties believe any of their own bullshit.

          1. commodious spittoon

            They’ll come around to wisdom of realpolitik on a dreary January morning some years in the future.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Suddenly, only idiot Republicans could possibly think that serious, reality-minded politicians don’t sometimes have to deal with tyrants, and how dare those dummies question President Warren’s commitment to peace through diplomacy.

          3. commodious spittoon

            Oh, and:

            “She’s the PRESIDENT! Questioning her on foreign policy is TREASON!!!!”

    3. DrOtto

      DWS called, she wants her hairstyle back.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    You thought (past tense) he was gay? What makes you think he is not?

    Maybe it was Newsome’s predecessor, but for some reason I thought the SF mayor was openly, as in “Hey everybody lookitme I’m GAAAAAAY!” gay.

    1. Luther Baldwin

      I doubt it, because if that were true the rest of the country would have never heard the end of it.

    2. Suthenboy

      Ah, ok.
      I never paid attention.

    3. I was under the same impression

  26. Suthenboy

    What a pleasant surprise. I stopped and rang the doorbell at a house a mile or so away to ask if I could have some persimmon for seed. Only one in a hundred persimmon trees are prolific fruit producers and they have one. They said that I could have some. I just discovered that they have been by my house and left a hundred or so seed in a can on my front porch.
    I guess now I have to leave some muscadine wine on theirs.

    1. Hyperion

      “I guess now I have to leave some muscadine wine on theirs.”

      Wait, isn’t that the wine you make which turns everyone who drinks it into raging alcoholics? You should ship it all to me instead, it’s already too late for me.

      1. blackjack

        Muscatel. Or..Nighttrain Express, Maddog 20-20, Thunderbird. Less than a buck for a short dog when I was a kid. Fortified is what they called it.

  27. Tres Cool

    O-H….
    I-O !!!

    I fully expect sloopy is currently unconscious, covered in jizz and nacho cheese

    1. Old Man With Candy

      He’s covered in cheese, Banjos is covered in jizz. Expect another baby shortly.

      1. Brochettaward

        Ohio State fans aren’t made. They’re born.

      2. Tres Cool

        Now if only that other team from Michigan loses…

        1. Tres Cool

          Is it just me, or does the Michigan St. QB Rocky Lombardi look like the result of an unholy biological union between Joe Walsh and Sean Penn ?

  28. Lackadaisical

    Been listening to this for 30 minutes, I’m not sure what it is, there is nothing I didn’t know, but it is nice listening to Sowell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y021WAdUlW8

  29. Hyperion

    For whatever reason, for whatever it’s worth, I firmly believed that the state of AZ wants to elect horrible people and they’re damned well going to. How else can you explain a century of McCain, followed by ‘when you think it can’t get worse’, Flake.

    Yeah, the state of AZ hates all of us.

    1. MikeS

      Semeninma was right; Arizona is full of crazies.

      1. Hyperion

        I used to think it was a quiet, laid back place full of retirees who never go outside, you know, because it’s too hot to go outside. But now I’m thinking, something must be in the water. Back in the big mining town days, didn’t the miners run into a lot of lead?

      2. See Double You

        Hmm, Ms. Enema might just be the perfect nickname for her.

        1. Hyperion

          I could imagine the Zonians getting buyers remorse, but they sent McCain back like 20 times. So there’s no hope for that.

  30. Spudalicious

    “The meth lab of democracy” appears to be an accurate statement.

    1. Suthenboy

      If the election was legit, of which I am extremely skeptical, then yes it is. Who votes for a commie shitweasel that openly denigrates them prior to the election? Mouth breathing retards, that’s who.

      1. Spudalicious

        I think Arizona has been purple for longer than many people realize. And I honestly think John McCain’s final “f you” to Trump on healthcare doomed many Republicans around the country.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        People who sent in the ballot weeks before the tape came out? Would explain the discrepancy between election night and mail-in stuff.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          Another reason it should be Election Day, not Election Months.

          1. CPRM

            You know, US elections are held on Tuesdays because travelling to town to vote took several days. Now people get pissed because it takes them 5 minutes, so it should be easier.

  31. Mojeaux

    Mr. Mojeaux’s dude pal just texted him and said, “Hey, wanna go see Bob Seger?”

    It’s nice that my husband has a dude pal he can go do fun stuff like that at the last minute with.

    1. Tres Cool

      Shame it’s Bob Seger. But at least he isn’t taking him to Fun Boy Three .

      1. Mojeaux

        Too bad he won’t go to the ballet or symphony with me…

        1. Tres Cool

          I can picture FB3 playing while Robby Soave stands on the side of the road with a flat tire, striking an imposing figure as his immaculately-coiffed locks blow majestically in the breeze, with a cosmo in 1 hand, clove cigarette in the other.

          1. Mojeaux

            You’ve thought way too hard about that, dude..

          2. Tres Cool

            Ive been drinking. I get carried away with my expository writing.

        2. blackjack

          Dammit, he’s a man, not number.

      2. DEG

        Nothing wrong with Bob Seger.

    2. But Enough About Me

      I’m somewhat envious. The only d00d pal I’ve got that I could do something like that with lives 1,100 km east of me. Spontaneity is out. 😉

      1. CPRM

        That’s like only 10 miles!

        1. blackjack

          I don’t speak Canadian.

      2. Mojeaux

        Well, this is new for him. We’re at that stage where we’re making “couples friends” because we no longer have children who can’t be left alone. And this guy likes to do the same stuff Mr. Mojeaux does, so it’s a good match. I wouldn’t have wanted to see Bob Seger. Now, if it had been Rush, that woulda caused some problems.

        1. MikeS

          You would have divorced him because Rush sucks so bad and just the thought of him seeing them in concert would crush the love and affection you have for him?

          1. Mojeaux

            Close, but no steely dan for you!

          2. Spudalicious

            The band or the sex toy?

          3. MikeS

            I have one already Good question!

          4. Mojeaux

            MikeS doesn’t like Steely Dan. I don’t know his thoughts on steely dan.

          5. Steely Dan the band is overrated.

          6. Remember the other night when I accused you of not sending your BIF, and said I never really trusted you? I was kidding… Was.

    3. CPRM

      He and his friend are working on their Night Moves?

      1. They’ve got tonight.

      2. blackjack

        You gotta worry if he gets like a rock!

  32. CPRM

    I’m already tired of Christmas music.

    1. But Enough About Me

      Yep.

      1. If you don’t listen to it all year why listen to it at X-mas. Father Christmas is the only X-mas song permitted at casa Hyperbole.

          1. dbleagle

            This would be the only album allowed in my shit shack.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jggM516KOk

        1. Gustave Lytton

          I listen to Christmas music year round.

          1. You, sir, are a man of principle and while I disagree with your life choice I respect your commitment.

        2. SoberPhobic

          Gotta listen to Bob Rivers

        3. Oh, I forgot this one, although some may argue whether it is truly a Christmas song

          1. Is this Christmas music?

          2. Sorry, I only listen to Ennio Morricone movie music. Him and Carl W. Stalling.

          3. CPRM

            Missing some good James Horner stuff.

    2. Spudalicious

      We ate lunch at a cheap Japanese place today. I was eating my teriyaki chicken rice bowl with the Christmas Carol station playing on the radio. Yeah, it could be a “bah humbug” year on the Christmas music.

      The Christmas album by the Brian Setzer Orchestra will be playing while we decorate the tree though.

    3. Tres Cool

      No James Brown or some RUN-D.M.C ?

        1. DEG

          Yep. If USA is going to have a national anthem, that’s what it should be.

        2. CPRM

          -1 Apollo Creed

        3. KSuellington

          There would be no more kneeling if that was the anthem. There would also be no standing still either.

      1. MikeS

        Christmas in Hollis is fun.

        Two of my favorite Christmas songs:

        12 Days of Christmas

        12 Days of Christmas

        1. dbleagle

          For those of the Boston area persuasion:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk

          Damn some of those in-laws are familiar. No wonder I live on an island.

    4. straffinrun

      I’d give you a lump of coal, but you’d burn it and kill us all.

      1. CPRM

        I’ll say this much to give you some understanding. One of my jobs is in radio, and what do radio stations do this time of year? Why they break their entire format to play christmas music regardless of genre.

        1. straffinrun

          That sounds like hell on earth. The campsite transitioned from Halloween to Christmas in an interesting way.
          https://ibb.co/G3DtrTC

          1. Tres Cool

            You’re camping at Disney ?

          2. straffinrun

            Maybe. Seem to be a lot of dwarves around.

          3. CPRM

            RIMSHOT!

          4. Brochettaward

            YOU’RE A DWARF

          5. CPRM

            I thought Japanese Christmas meant Col. Sanders dressed in red and delivered RoboCop Chicken to each house…

          6. Tres Cool

            +1 Annual Gift Man

    5. Mojeaux

      I put up the tree and lights. Each year, the emotional/nostalgic punch of Christmas gets less and less worth the work of decorating.

      1. But the choir of children sing their song! They’ve practiced all year long!

        1. Mojeaux

          I watch my childhood Christmas specials and realize Santa’s a dick in most of them.

          1. There you go with the Santa dick jokes!

          2. Mojeaux

            And it’s not even Sunday! You’re welcome!

          3. blackjack

            Sneakin down her chimney, callin her “Ho, ho ho.”

      2. Nephilium

        No tree and lights here, but I’ve curated a Punk Christmas station that I’ll be playing a bit for the next month or so. Stiff Little Fingers released a holiday album, as did the Ramones, Bad Religion, Dropkick Murphys, Reel Big Fish, the Reverend Horton Heat, Los Straightjackets, and the Vandals. It led to some confused expressions on Thanksgiving…

        1. DEG

          The Reverend released a holiday album? I wonder what that is like.

          1. Nephilium

            It’s pretty solid, but I’d say the Los Straitjackets one works better as background music.

          2. Nephilium

            But I’ll enact some labor for you (both We Three Kings):

            The Rev

            Los Straitjackets

          3. DEG

            Oooo… both are good. Thanks!

    6. TARDIS

      It’s totally going to suck for you when X-mas starts the day after labor day.
      *Starts Celtic Women Christmas disc

  33. CPRM

    A band that never got that big or got too much recognition, but SOiL was some good stuff.

  34. Winston

    I have a question: Why is that urban areas are so statist? The need for public utilities? Desire for free Housing? Desire to clean up Slums? Gun Crime? Schools? Lack of self-sufficiency?

    1. CPRM

      Blaming other people for your misfortune and expecting compensation seems to be a lot more prevalent in urban areas, most likely a cultural thing.

      1. Winston

        The lack of self-sufficiency and dislike of rural areas exacerbates that I would think,

        1. CPRM

          I live in a rural area and I don’t know anyone who is self-sufficient, but I suppose the knowledge one could be if need be can alleviate such fears.

          1. Winston

            I didn’t mean to suggest that rural people are completely self-sufficient but that urbanites are even less self-sufficient than rural people and this might exacerbate their statist tendencies.

    2. Sharing walls with other people.

    3. straffinrun

      Part of it is the “cosmopolitan” idea means embracing shit that doesn’t make sense if you’re principled. The other part is mistaking some of the rich crony capitalists for capitalists. You don’t see a lot of fuckheads pulling up to you at a stoplight in a Lambo when you live in the sticks. My guess anyways.

    4. Spudalicious

      Everything you need is at your fingertips. Public services minimize the need to be self sufficient. Government is good.

      1. straffinrun

        Juche?

    5. Nephilium

      I’d say it’s being in close proximity to so many people. It’s hard to understand that you can disagree with what someone is doing, but still let them do it. As an example, I’m agnostic, and not a big fan of marriage in its current state. I have no desire to ever get married, yet I’ve got displayed on my basement bar the certificate the state sent me that I am legally permitted to perform marriages in the state. My sister asked me why someone so anti-marriage would have that. I answered that while I’m opposed to marriage for myself, I had a friend ask if I could perform the ceremony for them, and I have no issue with other people making decisions that I disagree with.

    6. Suthenboy

      Disconnection from reality. There is no pressure to be self-sufficient.

      Earlier today I quoted something I saw in….uh…Seattle newspaper? in the letters section

      “People should not be allowed to hunt. They should get their meat from the grocery store where it is made and no animals are harmed.”

      I also saw a survey a while back where nearly half of HS seniors thought milk comes from the grocery store.

      1. Winston

        “People should not be allowed to hunt. They should get their meat from the grocery store where it is made and no animals are harmed.”

        I also saw a survey a while back where nearly half of HS seniors thought milk comes from the grocery store.

        Yes, this attitude is a pretty serious problem. If one doesn’t know how their food actually gets to their stores they might not realize that non-central planning works or how major changes can screw that system up.

      2. straffinrun

        Personally, I think it’s more about the pronounced income gap in the city. Plays perfectly with envy and envy plays perfectly with government.

        1. Suthenboy

          Envy is a big problem.

      3. westernsloper

        “People should not be allowed to hunt. They should get their meat from the grocery store where it is made and no animals are harmed.”

        That is surely someone taking the piss. I refuse to believe someone is that stupid.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          This.

          1. Winston

            Poe’s Law.

          2. dbleagle

            Nope. I have a jpeg of a similar letter in the San Francisco paper. Most people are disconnected from the reality of where their food comes from. Hell, when I was an infantry officer at Ft Lewis I had troops refuse to eat fresh blackberries and salmon I got while on an FTX. They chose to eat c-rations versus food they saw me harvest.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            That’s because you wrapped it in poison oak leaves before baking it.

            I swear Ft Lewis was a test site for weaponizing poison oak as a defensive barrier.

        2. Suthenboy

          You are shitting me, right westernsloper? After all the time you have spent around here and seeing countless examples it hasn’t sunk in yet?

          “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.” – (((Old Guy))) with funny hair

  35. Winston

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/media-bought-compromised-winnipeg-free-press-brian-pallister-1.4918658

    “They eliminated payment for recycling of newspapers, reduced government advertising in newspapers and they’ve passed legislation that would eliminate mandatory advertising in newspapers, so-called legal notices,” said Cox, the latter referring to a section of government legislation the province has so far decided against proclaiming.

    ….

    NDP leader Wab Kinew doesn’t think the objectivity of journalists is at risk.

    “Journalists, in my experience, are governed by official codes of conduct but, more often than not, personal and moral codes of conduct to be free and unbiased in their reporting,” he said. “There may obviously be exceptions to that rule, but far and wide I believe in the freedom of the press.”

    1. Luther Baldwin

      “Journalists, in my experience, are governed by official codes of conduct but, more often than not, personal and moral codes of conduct to be free and unbiased in their reporting,” he said.

      That’s some fine, fantasy gibberish there.

  36. Playa Manhattan

    I’m stuck with my Orthodox in-laws today. No internet or electronics until later this evening.

    Does anyone have the score to the Cal game?

    1. CPRM

      Goys 33, Jews 9.

      1. CPRM

        I’m .01 percent European Jew according to Ancestry.com, so I can make that joke. /The Warren Defense

      2. straffinrun

        Is that the IQ differential? Molyneux wants to know.

      3. Playa Manhattan

        I’m not sure who I’m rooting for

      4. Tres Cool

        cause they sacrificed too many plays, amirite ?

    2. Tres Cool

      Sodom & Gomorrah currently tied @ 69

    3. westernsloper

      3 to 4. Skins.

  37. Winston

    Bill Clinton won Arizona’s electoral college votes when he was reelected in 1996

    Edit Fairy?

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Come again?

      1. Winston

        Good one…

      2. kinnath

        Elected 92. Re-elected 96.

        1. CPRM

          Mexi wasn’t wearing the blue dress the first time, so he asked for a do over.

        2. Winston

          They changed the post (and my comment) from 1994 to the correct 1996.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Hey man, they only gave me so many keys to this asylum.

          2. kinnath

            Written in sand.

          3. CPRM

            Like tears in the rain, as one crazy actor adlibbed and everyone gave credit to the director.

  38. Playa Manhattan

    Doesn’t anyone have the score? This is the only site that isn’t blocked by the firewall!

    1. Does anybody really know the score? Does anybody really care?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Said Ted about himself

    2. CPRM

      The orthodox have their own firewall to enforce Shabbos?

      1. Tres Cool

        Jewacuda™ firewalls

    3. MikeS

      Life: 1
      My hopes and dreams: 0

  39. Winston

    So when did the French require those yellow vests?

    1. CPRM

      When you showed up.

      1. Winston

        They didn’t surrender to me so no…

    2. Brochettaward

      Between the yellow vests that Frenchies need to drive and hearing Tony Blair described as a charismatic figure today, I have accepted the fact that I’ll never understand Europeans.

      1. Luther Baldwin

        yellow vests that Frenchies need to drive

        LOL that’s the red line you can’t get past? Unlike, say, the complete lack of free speech or the right to defend oneself?

        1. Winston

          Actually it is the fuel tax increase not the yellow vests that caused the riots. This is just the first time I heard of compulsory yellow vests in France.

          1. Luther Baldwin

            I am aware of that. And frankly the yellow vest thing isn’t all that more outrageous than seat belts or air bags and we all know how that worked out.

          2. Winston

            New Platform for Bill Weld?

    3. MikeS

      I went looking for when and couldn’t find it. However, I did learn that in addition to that vest, you also are required to have:

      Warning triangle – to be deployed in case of an accident.

      Breathalysers – all motor vehicles (even motorbikes) must carry one in-date, unused, French government-certified (NF) breathalyser at all times. Standard advice is to carry two unused breathalysers at any given time.

      If you have a satnav which can signal speed camera locations, this function must be deactivated. Failure to do so may result in a €1,500 fine.

      Headlamp beam deflectors – these are to avoid dazzling other road users.

      If your number plate does not have an integral GB symbol, you’ll need to attach a GB sticker to the rear of your car.

      In some areas, Crit’Air clean air stickers

      1. westernsloper

        They make you carry your own unused breathalyzer to bust you with? Fuck that, I pay taxes for the cops to carry that shit!

      2. Luther Baldwin

        Breathalysers

        The quicker to fuck with you? Most of that is just “safety” crap but that’s just evil.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          The commies only sent a bill after the executions. They didn’t require prisoners to provide the bullet themselves.

  40. kinnath

    Can’t miss Christmas Song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDZLI9qeYjU

    1. CPRM

      I call him AL.

      1. CPRM

        Oh, those few years where pop-punk wasn’t only cool, but fun. I miss SugarCult.

        1. Brochettaward

          Oh, those few years where pop-punk wasn’t only cool, but fun. I miss SugarCult.

          This was never objectively true. You were just under the influence of all those cocks you were taking in your mouth.

          1. CPRM

            Maybe that’s you’re experience, but those happened to coincide with the days when women weren’t repulsed by me.

        2. Winston

          The only Real Music are Tuvian Throat Poems

    2. MikeS

      Haha! I’d never heard that before, Kinnath. Excellent!

      1. kinnath

        I first heard that on the radio decades ago. I was laughing so hard, I had to pull over.

        Now you can find almost anything from the past on youtube.

        1. straffinrun

          And the rest is on Pornhub.

      2. dbleagle

        This is what I think of with SNL and Steve Martin at XMAS.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_88eTrUPHI

        (Start at 1:45 if it doesn’t start there.)

  41. westernsloper

    I refuse to click on one of those christmas music links that have polluted this comment section.

    1. Nephilium

      Mine are safe and good for the soul.

      1. MikeS

        I was wondering the same

        1. MikeS

          The difference being, I can spell.

          1. MikeS

            Thats better.

          2. dbleagle

            My two suggestions are safe as well.

      2. westernsloper

        ANYONE OF THEM SMART ASSE’S.

  42. Tres Cool

    As a carryover from last night, the dog Jugsy volunteered to watch over the 4-day weekend. Shown actual size.
    https://postimg.cc/c6cCWYHZ

    1. CPRM

      I’m not clicking on that, you’re bound to use your penis as a measuring tool, and that ain’t my bag.

      1. Tres Cool

        I’m not risking the peanut butter allergy. Sissy.

        1. CPRM

          As Sean Connery said on Celebrity Jeopardy ‘The Penis Mightier than the Sword’ (The way history will be taught when millenials are in charge)

          1. Tres Cool

            “the pen is mightier than the sword, but vagina beats them both” -someone I cant remember

  43. CPRM

    I’m really good at what I do, but what I do isn’t very good.

    1. Tres Cool

      I refuse to belong to a club that would accept me as a member.

      Kinda like that?

      1. CPRM

        Except sometimes what I do pays me money. Other times what I do ends up on Glibs.

        1. Tres Cool

          you’re cakin’ up on that patreon tho

          1. CPRM

            $14 a month here I come!

          2. Tres Cool

            ..tax-free!

          3. CPRM

            For now. DUN DUN DUN When I’m appointed judge of the district of Narnia in 3027, no doubt those unpaid taxes will be brought up.

          4. Tres Cool

            -1 boof

    2. The best advice I ever got. ‘If you can’t figure out how to do something well, figure out how to enjoy doing it poorly.”

      1. CPRM

        up carrot up carrot, THIS

  44. Winston

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_of_Expertise

    In The Death of Expertise, Nichols condemns what he describes as the many forces trying to undermine the authority of experts in the United States. He blames higher education, the internet, and the explosion of media options for the anti-expertise and anti-intellectual sentiment which he sees as being on the rise. While conceding that experts do sometimes fail, he says the best answer to this is the self-correcting presence of other experts to recognize and rectify systemic failures.[4]

    From the Federalist Never Trumper guy who left the GOP over Kavanaugh and endorsed the Dems.

    1. MikeS

      Top. Men.

    2. Winston

      https://web.archive.org/web/20180621000338/https://www.csicop.org/si/show/yes_we_do_need_experts

      Critical thinking involves questioning authority, but when it comes to many important decisions, do we really want to go it alone? I don’t know about you, but I like knowing that my gastroenterologist has advanced degrees and lots of experience. I’d rather not have to ask my neighbor to perform my colonoscopy. In addition, although it is clearly out of fashion with many Americans, I’d prefer that the people in my government have expertise in their fields.

      TOP MEN. And what are the chances TOP MEN will end defining “agreeing with them” as “expertise”?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Given the well documented medical error rates and refusal to do simple things like washing hands, giving docs blind unquestioning trust is just crazy. Trust, but verify works for “experts” as much as for the Russians.

      2. westernsloper

        Critical thinking also entails being able to recognize the difference between a well trained physician and a well trained social engineer.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Top. men.

      1. Winston

        I always find the libertarian dichotomy of the “People are dumb, Democracy is Dumb” on one side and the “Fuck Off TOP MEN” on another and the “Institutions, Elites and Social Trust are important” one yet another. Amusing.

        1. CPRM

          You’re easily amused.

          1. Winston

            When did you turn into Queen Victoria?

          2. Winston

            There’s also the “Everything is Awesome cuz Iphones” libertarians and the “What about Yemen!” libertarians.

          3. CPRM

            And then there are people like me, things aren’t perfect, but It’s Better Than It was.

          4. Winston

            Well the real dichotomy is how the former think the status quo is, for the most part, good and will get better. The latter think the status quo is very much not good and not really convinced that things will get better.

          5. Winston

            How does Obamacare and tariffs work into the “things are improving”?

        2. Tres Cool

          Seems I once read something about your mom and men on top. Maybe it was TOS…..

        3. Winston

          I know none of these three sides are completely contradictory but still…

          1. The only way to resolve all three is purely voluntary social interaction. That way the stupid people don’t have power over you.

    4. Luther Baldwin

      I’m thinking something about “top men”.

      1. Sean

        Oh my.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          Oh, get your mind out of the gutter.