Friday Morning Links

Aw shit, that’s the score?!?!

I bet Chucky wishes he’d have stayed the booth.  After all, you get to do the second-guessing there rather than the other way around.  I never thought the 49ers could beat anybody by 31 points. Hell, they probably couldn’t beat Bama by that many.  And to make matters worse, his only win this year is most likely due to some dubious officiating in the Browns game.  And from what I see, they only have 2 (at most) really winnable games left on their schedule. I guess we’re about to see if Vegas is a town that will support a football team good or bad. Because a shitty one is about to move there.

12th ranked UCF beat Temple 52-40 in a game that can’t give the CFB committee a lot of confidence in them. And your winners on the ice were: Winnepeg, Dallas, NY Islanders, Montreal, Ottawa, Detroit (who are riding a 3-game win streak!), Nashville, St Louis, Calgary, Edmonton, MY Rangers, Philadelphia and the Columbus Blue Jackets. In MSL news, Wayne Rooney, the toast of DC, missed a penalty as his team was knocked out of the playoffs. And RSL knocked LAFC out in surprising fashion.

Aloha.

Badass Daniel Boone was born on this day. He shares it with: Marie Antionette, president James Polk, mathematician George Boole, another president Warren G Harding, politician Aga Khan, actor Burt Lancaster, actor Ray Walston, wrestling legend Abdullah The Butcher, sociopath Pat Buchanan, rocker Keith Emerson, bassist Dave Pegg, malignant tumor David Brock, rocker Bobby Dall, annoying actor David Schwimmer, and Wisconsin governor Scott Walker.

Its also the day on which the following occurred: George Washington says goodbye to the Army after curb-stomping the British in the War for Independence, abolitionist freedom fighter John Brown was found guilty of treason (against Virginia) and sentenced to hang, North and South Dakota became states, the Balfour Declaration was issued, Howard Hughes flew the Spruce Goose, Dewey Truman beats Truman Dewey, CBS bought an 80% stake in the New York Yankees, The Summit in Houston opened (its now Joel Osteen’s gaudy homage to God himself, Reagan signed a bill making MLK Day a national holiday, the final “Blackaddar” episode aired, and Roger Moore had his prostate removed.

Thats it. Here come…the links!

Please save us from the wretched country…whose flag we are waving proudly.

People from Honduras traveling through Mexico after refusing asylum there sue President Trump for violating their constitutional rights before they’re violated. Yeah, I need a fucking flowchart on how they reached the point of having standing without reaching the border or a US consulate.

I know I’m going way out on a limb here, but I’m gonna have to say I’m skeptical, at best, about these claims. Also, the head of “Flyers Rights” sounds like a fucking moron.

As Democrats become more confident that they’ll take the House (although I am far from convinced), the media are shifting attention to the Senate tossup races. Internal polling seems to contradict the former claim at the moment, as does the reported voter turnout numbers in several key races. But the chosen narrative ain’t gonna write itself.

Oh…my…God! WHO…FUCKING…CARES?!?!?!?!?!

Pay up, proles!

Yeah, this asshole doesn’t understand what an incentive is. Oh, he knows how to fuck people over, that’s for sure. But that’s not an incentive.

Whats even scarier than a teenage American drinking a 12 pack and getting behind a wheel? A Japanese pilot blowing a .189 before boarding his plane. Damn, dude. “Banzai!”, I guess.

Well, at least they took the claims seriously. Hopefully these assholes will get locked away for a long time…in cells adjacent to those of the people they sought to frame.

Yeah, baby!!!!!  Rock-n-Roll!!!!

That’s it for me for there week.  Have a great weekend, friends!

Comments

517 responses to “Friday Morning Links”

  1. Slammer

    Throw a rock, get dropped

  2. PieInTheSky

    Oh…my…God! WHO…FUCKING…CARES?!?!?!?!?! – I do I did not see pictures of cheerleaders in that link

    1. Count Potato

      Me neither.

      “A cheerleader for the San Francisco 49ers knelt during the national anthem ahead of Thursday’s game against the Oakland Raiders at Levi’s Stadium.

      The cheerleader, who has yet to be identified, took a knee as the roster of uniformed women stood around her, their pom-poms held aloft.”

      How do you know this happened without being able to identify her?

      1. straffinrun

        What’s unusual about a cheerleader on her knee?

        1. PieInTheSky

          No one was filming closeups?

  3. Slammer

    I’m convinced all the polling is BS…just like 2016. The Democrats are gonna get absolutely hammered.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Meh I prefer just not to speculate on polls…

      1. AlexinCT

        Yeah pie, but the trend over the last 4 to 6 years has been that either the pollsters are morons that seem incapable of correctly modeling the “most likely to vote” distribution, or are applying some bias there to favor one group over the other (likely in the hope of discouraging members of the group they say is going to lose from going out to vote). I remind you that they told us Hillary was a 93% assured win. Then Trump wins quite handily. I suspect we will see the same again this election. I also suspect the close elections will have democrats finding trains with missed ballots instead of just cars, even if these additional ballots suddenly put voter turnout at over 120%.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          John King is doing his thing. Looks like he wants to be the subject of more mockery. Same with Nate Silver.

          I truly hope anyway because it makes no sense Americans would give Democrats and Pelosi a majority in the House. Only if Democrats come out to vote in numbers would it make sense. But so-called ‘I’s doing it? Unless they’re not paying attention I reckon.

          1. Rasilio

            Here is the thing, Americans don’t vote to give either party a majority in the house. The vote for individual candidates in their districts. Now some, maybe even a majority choose the candidate they vote for based on who they want to have a majority (even then I would argue most of them are really just voting their tribal affiliation and do not have any grander concerns) but it is far from all and these voters tend to cancel each other out on a national level. What then matters is which districts are in play with viable candidates on both sides and local electorates with a sufficient balance in the tribal voters that the undecided middle will be making the final decision. Races in deep blue districts are irrelevant, the Democrat will win. Races in deep red districts are irrelevant, the Republican will win. Only the undecided voters in the middle who live in close districts matter for determining who wins the majority in the house and very very few of those voters will be deciding based on which party they want to hold the majority, they will be picking between the 2 candidates in their district with no grand national considerations

    2. straffinrun

      Well, then I guess this is a good place to make our predictions. I’ll start: Dems take the house with a 5 seat majority and the Reps add to 3 senate seats.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        Senate: Red52 Blue 48
        House: Red by 30

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          ugh

          House: Blue by 30

          1. I think you have the Senate about right. I’d be surprised if the Blue Wave is that strong in the House. I’m guessing +15 or 20 is about right.

          2. Chipwooder

            Are you saying a 30 seat swing in the House (giving the Donks a 7 seat majority) or a 30 seat majority (meaning a 53 seat swing)? I can believe the former, but not the latter.

      2. Senate 54-46 R’s
        House is still too close to call but I think the R’s hold it by a couple seats.

        1. AlexinCT

          I am going with Sloop on this. The dems were just as cocky about Hillary winning, and we all know how that turned out.

        2. FOS

          Agree with Sloopy

      3. PieInTheSky

        Dems house, Reps senate. Dunno numbers

      4. Drake

        Dems gain a couple of seats in the House but don’t take it. Dems lose every close Senate race except NJ. Lefties have a hysterical meltdown make everyone relieved they didn’t win.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Ginsburg passes quietly in her sleep overnight.

          1. Michael

            Holy shit, that would be hilarious.

          2. Drake

            Or quietly passing away while court is in session and nobody notices for an hour.

          3. commodious spittoon

            Ironically, Thomas is the first to notice. “Is Ruth okay?”

          4. Luther Baldwin

            A live look as it happens.

          5. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

            Then Kavanaugh tries to revive her and gets impeached for groping.

    3. I’m gonna go on the record and say that this is probably the least important election in a long time. Assuming Dems get the house, we go from an ineffectual republican Congress to a divided and ineffectual Congress.

      If it wasn’t for the fact that the Dems have pissed me off, I’d sit this one out. Instead, I’m straight ticketing the Rs.

      1. straffinrun

        Exactly a conversation I had today. The election you’re having right now is always going to be the most important election simply because you can’t change the past. Sure, we’re going to see a slew of investigations coming from the house, but I didn’t see any major legislation coming out regardless of who won.

        1. commodious spittoon

          And if Dems launch a bunch of tedious and unavailing investigations, Trump reprises Clinton’s playbook and runs against the obsessive, wasteful, obstructionist Congress.

      2. Raphael

        But…but they said it was THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIME. IT’S THE TRUMP REFERENDUM, my man.

      3. Pat

        Assuming Dems get the house, we go from an ineffectual republican Congress to a divided and ineffectual Congress.

        More importantly for team blue, all of those pesky oversight investigations into the shady shit they pulled in 2016 disappear, the Mueller investigation lasts until the next presidential election, and impeachment proceedings are introduced in 2-3 month intervals.

        1. AlexinCT

          Yeah, this shitshow is the definite outcome of the donkeys getting any sort of power, because they want to make sure everyone knows they will not tolerate anyone but one of them in power. It will be disastrous if they get away with that.

        2. Gadfly

          Impeachment proceedings will probably backfire (see Clinton), so if the economy doesn’t crash before the presidential election the D House shenanigans will most likely hand the Rs government in 2020.

          1. dbleagle

            Mitch should let Pelosi know that If the House decides to re-investigate the 2016 election and Trump the Senate will open investigations into HRC, Obama and the various agencies. This may cool the House’s ardor.

      4. Gadfly

        Especially since the R’s have already passed the only major reform they would be able to muster (tax cuts) and are probably keeping the Senate, you are absolutely right. A D House means status quo on laws, taxes, and spending, and an R Senate means we’ll keep getting good (or at least “better”) judges on all the courts. The only way this could be the most important election is if the D wave was large enough to provide impeachment level Congressional control, but that is numerically impossible. The likely outcome next Tuesday (D House/R Senate) will make this one of the least consequential elections.

    4. Drake

      Yes – I think most of the polls are BS and wishful thinking.

  4. Count Potato

    “A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

    Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit, which was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.”

    So you are saying they can afford to hire a law firm but not plane tickets?

    1. Count Potato

      “Nexus Services Inc. is funding the lawsuits through a civil rights law firm called Nexus Derechos Humanos (Human Rights) Attorneys Inc.”

      So you are saying it was George Soros?

    2. Count Potato

      “The U.S. cannot send troops into Mexico to cut off the caravan from crossing the border”

      Because Mexico will declare war on the U.S.?

    3. topnotchtoledo

      Let’s drive them to Canada when they get here and let Trudy welcome them with open arms.

    4. AlexinCT

      I would not be surprised that some political agent with an agenda did the hiring… Follow the money & attorneys…

      1. Drake

        And charge them all with conspiracy.

  5. PieInTheSky

    Whats even scarier than a teenage American drinking a 12 pack and getting behind a wheel? A Japanese pilot blowing a .189 before boarding his plane. Damn, dude. “Banzai!”, I guess. – planes practically fly themselves anyway. Also he is probably scared of flying and a few drinks help.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Not only will this Japanese guy never fly again, he won’t be able to get a job as a short order cook with this on his record. Not even if he straightens up and fries right.

      1. Tundra

        *throws flag*

        “Illegal use of threadbare pun!”

      2. Not Adahn

        *leaves wakazashi and rice paper on the ground for PJ*

  6. Rebel Scum

    The lawsuit points to Trump’s claim that he will prevent the caravan from entering the U.S. It claims that the president cannot stop asylum-seekers

    “Asylum seekers” is still what we are going with? Whatever…

    If you don’t want to enter the country legally you are not welcome.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I don’t think asylum should stand if they had an offer from another country closer to them …

      1. Rebel Scum

        That too.

      2. westernsloper

        Don’t be ridiculous.

      3. Raphael

        Beggars CAN be choosers.

    2. Grummun

      It claims that the president cannot stop asylum-seekers

      Elian Gonzales would like a word.

  7. Count Potato

    “Aubrey Lane”

    Sounds like a porn star. Anyway, I’m pretty sure major airlines have cameras in the bathrooms.

    1. “Anyway, I’m pretty sure major airlines have cameras in the bathrooms.”

      Um…wut?

      1. Atanarjuat

        Maybe he installed them. Don’t kink-shame.

    2. Nephilium

      No, that’s the cruise lines.

  8. Ald. John Arena (45th) pointed to Chicago’s 7-cents-a-bag tax on paper and plastic bags and the success it has had in driving consumers to reduce bag use and landfill costs.

    “driving”

    Like cattle.

    Fuck off, slaver.

  9. PieInTheSky

    I know I’m going way out on a limb here, but I’m gonna have to say I’m skeptical, at best, about these claims.

    Lane was traveling to the Big Apple for a family trip when drunk a passenger who was sitting next to her on the overnight flight allegedly followed her into the bathroom and raped her.

    Dunno could have happened but it some skepticism is not unwarranted, I find the whole story strange. If it happened it was significant misconduct from the airline personnel. At the very least report the incident in order not to create problems for yourself later on.

    1. I am curious how you can have someone “follow” you into an airplane bathroom.

      1. PieInTheSky

        And did anyone see? Was there no scream? I dunno do not want to jump to conclusions

        1. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

          In aerospace no one can hear you scream.

      2. AlexinCT

        I would not be surprised to find out this is all a setup of some kind, because I can’t see a flight crew in the day & age of “everyone is a potential terrorist” not sicking an air marshal on someone even remotely accused of this. People have been perp walked off airplanes for far less than someone claiming they were raped in a bathroom.

      3. Gadfly

        Not only are those bathrooms small, with doors that would be difficult to close with two people in there and one of them putting up a struggle, but they are all equipped with a flight attendant call button. The story, while not impossible, strikes me as highly improbable.

        1. cyto

          Yeah, I don’t see how it is at all plausible….

          Guy forces his way into the tiny bathroom, closes and locks the door…. while simultaneously maintaining control over her and preventing her from struggling or making any noises?

          Heck, the doors are flimsy at best…. simply struggling would likely draw a lot of attention as the door gets buffeted about.

          It is just a weird, weird claim. Without further details, one cannot really judge, I suppose… but having been on many of these flights, I just don’t see a scenario where “stranger raped me in the airplane bathroom and there are no witnesses” plays out.

          As to the “the FBI doesn’t prosecute these claims” allegation….. I call BS. There’s no way the FBI is going to drop a “stranger violently raped someone in the airplane bathroom” case. And there isn’t a federal prosecutor alive who wouldn’t push that case hard. They live for that sort of thing.

  10. Scruffy Nerfherder

    A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.

    The Fifth Amendment states that, “no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

    A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding.”

    One, they haven’t been deported yet, and proceedings have not begun.

    Two, they’re not even in the US

    Three, I wish the progs would take such an expansive view of the First and Second.

    1. AlexinCT

      Neither the first nor the second help democrats win elections, so they don’t care to keep either of them around. Especially when the first can be used to point out that the democratic party is nothing more than a crime syndicate, and the second arms the rubes that the left wants to send to reeducation camps and guarantees they will fight back when the left wants to intern them.

    2. Pat

      The truly puzzling part is going to be when the DC Circuit not only accepts the case but rules in their favor.

  11. Rebel Scum

    raped in plane bathroom

    That takes STEVE AIR SMITH skill.

    1. Tundra

      Uh, no. It takes bathrooms about three times the size of the ones we have now.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        There’s not even enough room to take a dump in one of those things.

        1. Tundra

          *rocks*

  12. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. Brother Keith’s goose must really be cooked. The Red Star and Tribune (biggest newspaper in Minnesoda) refused to endorse any candidate for the AG race. They were never going to endorse a GOP candidate (ever), but their refusal to give Ellison their blessing is very telling. If they thought he was going to win, they would have backed him just to “keep channels of communication open”.

    It is also the most negative (but truthful) thing I have ever seen the Strib write about him. All of it is absolutely true, but they never ever wrote about any of these issues before.

    Ellison’s commitment to justice for all is not in doubt, but his personal judgment is. His history with Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam remains controversial even though Ellison has long since renounced the group’s anti-Semitic views. His previous support for gang members and fugitive Kathleen Soliah create further doubts and would make it challenging to build a strong relationship with law enforcement.

    The fallout from two of Ellison’s personal relationships is also concerning. In 2006, a woman accused Ellison of verbal abuse, but he previously had obtained a restraining order against her. More recently, former girlfriend Karen Monahan says Ellison emotionally abused her and pulled her off a bed. Those allegations were unsubstantiated by a detailed outside review, but further investigation by law enforcement is necessary.

    1. Tundra

      I’m actually shocked they even mentioned his Nation of Islam ties. Fuck him. I hope he spends the rest of his life in painful obscurity.

      1. AlexinCT

        Come on Tundra, he is bound to have some dirt on other dems that will allow him to get some cushy government job and plenty of other bitchez to molest.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        That was the part that shocked me too. The Strib really is like Pravda. For years they have covered up that connection. Now that he is out of favor, the insert shit like that as if they had always been writing that.

        I wonder what it must be like to be someone who puts their trust in the integrity of the Strib. Does it bother them when they give them intellectual whip lash?

    2. Drake

      The New jersey Star Ledger printed a ringing endorsement four our corrupt Senator.

      Choke it down, and vote for Menendez

      I wonder if that’s what he says to Dominican minors?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        What a difference a year makes….

        Regardless of the verdict in the sensational federal criminal trial of New Jersey’s senior senator, Robert Menendez should resign because his conduct is unbecoming the office of U.S. senator.

        Menendez should step down in a way that finally, provides relief to New Jersey’s long-suffering citizens who have endured — perhaps more than any citizens in the Union — a culture of pervasive corruption and Boss-led, anti-democratic politics for too long.

        Same paper on 11/9/2017

        1. Drake

          They got over a thousand comments calling them out for their two-faced BS.

          The Editors also pretend ignorance on how corporations work. If you read their stories about Hugin. The paper that never examines how our ultra-liberal Governor got far richer, thinks Hugin ran Celgene as a sole proprietorship. Every billing mistake, dispute with Medicare, and patent protection action is proof of how greedy Hugin is. Never-mind that Celgene actually makes products that actually help sick people.

          On te other hand, Menendez’s greed in the form of bribes and gifts from people scamming the Federal Government are okay.

  13. Tundra

    Yeah, baby!!!!! Rock-n-Roll!!!!

    Hard to explain the ’80s to the Spawn sometimes. Even more difficult while videos like those still exist…

    1. westernsloper

      It’s the hair.

      1. AlexinCT

        MULLETS!

  14. PieInTheSky

    A new study from the University of Innsbruck in Austria says that people who drink their coffee black often have psychopathic or sadistic traits, and coming from a journalist who relies on copious amounts of black coffee when on deadline, this study could be true.

    The people behind the report surveyed more than 1,000 adults about their taste preferences with foods and drinks that are bitter. To get answers, the adults in the study took four different personality tests that examined traits like narcissism, aggression, sadism and psychopathy.

    Interestingly, the study found that people who tend to like bitter foods such as black coffee or tonic water also had personality traits that could be seen as bitter and unpleasant.

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/new-study-says-you-might-be-a-psychopath-if-you-like-black-coffee

    Sounds like bullshit to me

    1. Slammer

      *sip*

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      No comment

    3. Nephilium

      It’s just a continuation of that classic scientific maxim: “You are what you eat”.

      1. AlexinCT

        Am I a pussy then? OH NOEZ!

        1. Raphael

          *high-fives*

          1. Raphael

            *utters a sad sigh and lowers hand*

          2. AlexinCT

            Is that Michael Douglas blaming his woman for cancer? Can’t click that link at work…

          3. Tres Cool

            If you ever get a chance to hear the Norm Macdonald/Gilbert Gottfried bit on it, its hilarious

          4. westernsloper

            Dude! Some of us are eating breakfast. NSFBreakfast!

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      A correlational study that points out spurious relationships and doesn’t mean shit would be my guess. Kind of along the lines of increasing ice cream consumption is related to rising crime rates.

    5. Drake

      My parents and all their old New England WASP friends drank their coffee black. I think it was some form of self-punishment.

    6. Rebel Scum

      I like my coffee like I like my women: cold, black and bitter.

      1. AlexinCT

        If I drank coffee, that’s what I would go for as well…

  15. Happy Friday you Glibs! Have some redheads.

    http://archive.is/GzkOB

    25… I’ll be in my bunk.

    1. Count Potato

      I’d like to see more of #9

    2. Raphael

      I would gladly give up my soul for the poor souless 14, 26, and 38. Damn, this link is ON FIRE.

    3. Pat

      This may be controversial, because everything is controversial in Trump’s America, but with very few exceptions I do not care for red heads. In Trump’s America.

      1. Raphael

        I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

      2. blighted_non_millenial

        BLASPHEMY!

    4. FOS

      Truly Q, you are doing God’s work.

  16. Rebel Scum

    although I am far from convinced

    I think they are going with the “demoralize Republicans” tactic again and I hope the result is the same as 2016.

    1. straffinrun

      How intentional is that strategy by the pollsters? Are they just so polluted by their own BS that they feed bogus numbers into the equation (global warming) or are they doing it with the express purpose of misleading (global warming)?

      1. AlexinCT

        Considering the likely political bias inherent in every one of these supposed pollster orgs, my guess is that I can say it is intentional with 93% accuracy….

  17. Nephilium

    I think I may have found the best case of sour grapes in the entire pro sports world:

    Hue Jackson: Browns would be winning by now if we’d done it my way in Year One

    I have the feeling he’s not going to be coaching anywhere soon.

    1. So the Cleveland Browns let him down one last time?

  18. Old Man With Candy

    Yeah, I need a fucking flowchart on how they reached the point of having standing without reaching the border or a US consulate.

    SP keeps asking the same question- who is feeding and watering the horde?

    I guess asking basic questions like that is what will prevent her from having a career in journalism when she grows up.

    1. http://www.pueblosinfronteras.org/

      Which has accepted money from various NGOs etc., but mostly from Soros connected groups.

      Don’t say that too loud though, or USA Today will dox you.

      http://ace.mu.nu/archives/377889.php

      1. Count Potato

        “Update: A commenter tells me that Bruce, aka “Gay Patriot,” has started a GoFundMe with the mission of uncovering the media’s skeletons.

        I can’t endorse it — not out of any moral objections (in fact I’m full of moral support for it), but just because I have no idea if he can deliver or what his qualifications are.

        But there’s the link, if you’re interested.”

        Didn’t he get banned from Twitter?

        1. Mojeaux

          He’s back as @BrucetheGay.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’ve made it a task to read Soros’s books. I don’t understand the guy and I don’t think he’s as simple as he is portrayed in right-leaning media. He was anti-communist throughout the 80’s and 90’s and reveres Popper. I just don’t get his absolute bent towards completely open borders and socialism-lite. I think it’s worth studying him more deeply to try to discern his motivations.

        1. AlexinCT

          It’s about power and making himself rich. In the day and age of government that picks winners & losers, people like Soros see a great potential for both power and wealth growth by siding with the people that will not just promote, but double down on the whole “government picking winners & losers” gravy train. The guys is nothing but a scumbag looking out for his own interest while pretending to care.

          1. spqr2008

            He wants global government in order to have only one set of people to bribe to bring about the level of control over other people that he would like to have. In other words, he’s a Bond Villian.

  19. Pope Jimbo

    Hey, you got your slippery slope on my circular logic!

    Efforts Mounting to Bar Gun Possession by Those Convicted of Animal Cruelty

    A conviction for domestic violence in the United States strips a person of the legal right to possess a gun. It doesn’t matter if the conviction is a misdemeanor or a felony. The rationale for the federal law: Domestic violence is a red flag for future violence — including potentially deadly violence with a firearm.

    Scientific and anecdotal evidence suggests that a person who abuses animals also has a higher likelihood of hurting other people. And that insight has begun fueling a push, at the state and federal levels, to slap a no-gun penalty on anyone convicted of animal cruelty.

    How long until hunting is considered animal cruelty and thus anyone buying a hunting license should be stripped of their rights to a gun? (Especially infuriating today because I am antsy to cut out of work and get on the road for deer hunting).

    1. PieInTheSky

      Good thinking you should write that to your congressperson

    2. Count Potato

      “It doesn’t matter if the conviction is a misdemeanor or a felony. The rationale for the federal law: Domestic violence is a red flag for future violence — including potentially deadly violence with a firearm.”

      That’s bullshit because misdemeanor “domestic violence” doesn’t require violence. Nor does it have to happen in a home.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        It is also a great way to really fuck over the asshole guy you are divorcing (who happens to love hunting).

        1. AlexinCT

          “My wife ran away with my best friend and I miss him…”

          My favorite country music song.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Never give an inch…

    4. Rebel Scum

      So you’re saying cops shouldn’t be allowed to have guns?

    5. Jarflax

      The rationale for stripping people of rights after a felony conviction is not that they are dangerous it is that by committing a felony they have made themselves an outlaw, a person living outside of the law, who can rightly be stripped of the law’s protections because they have willfully violated the social compact under which we collectively agree to protect one another’s rights via the mechanism of law.

      Misdemeanors, by tradition, legal precedent, and simple common sense, do not demonstrate willful refusal to abide by the compact and can not reasonably result in permanent forfeiture of rights.

  20. straffinrun

    Other than having no problem hanging around racists, what makes Pat Buchanan a “sociopath”? His hatred of the neocons makes me a little forgiving of some of his other traits.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Other than the racism, antisemitism, and a lifetime of grifting?

      1. straffinrun

        Exactly. Other than that stuff. I don’t have too high a bar I suppose.

      2. FOS

        And being right about things.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Yeah, I don’t get that either. Pat isn’t the most “woke” guy among us, but he is no where near being someone I think would be cheering the loading of the trains.

      I think some of the hatred for him is that he treats WWII history like any other piece of history. He doesn’t shy away just because Nazis are involved. I remember one liberal being very pissed because of his take on how Hitler fucked up by declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor.* According to my liberal buddy it was out of bounds to treat Hitler like any other historical figure because he was pure evil.

      *Buchanan’s take as I remember it: If Hitler hadn’t declared war, FDR would have probably been forced to fight the war in the Pacific first. By declaring war on us first, FDR could finally get involved in the European theater.

      1. Pat

        He’s dedicated to a historical analysis of WWII that’s about as close to Nazi apologetics as you can possibly get without being a Nazi apologist. He unironically believes that Hitler had no designs on international expansion or European conquest and was provoked into war. No, really.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Wow.

          1. cyto

            Hey, dude likes trains that run on time….

    3. topnotchtoledo

      I went to the same high school as him. His family is a big donor, football field is named after the family. He’s not the worst bulb in the chandelier

  21. Rebel Scum

    Who says Beto doesn’t share?

    The material Project Veritas Action Fund captured shows campaign workers covering up the true nature of spending of campaign funds and intentionally misreporting them. This violates the FEC’s rules against personal use and misreporting. It also violates Section 1001, making a false statement to the federal government. The FEC violations impose civil penalties, including fines of up to $10,000 or 200 percent of the funds involved. Violations of Section 1001 are criminal and include imprisonment of up to five years.

    Chacon: “The Hondurans, yeah… I’m going to go get some food right now, like just some stuff to drop off…”
    Themann: “How did they get through?”
    Chacon: “Well I think they accepted them as like asylum-seekers… So, I’m going to get some groceries and some blankets…”
    Themann: “Don’t ever repeat this and stuff but like if we just say that we’re buying food for a campaign event, like the Halloween events…”
    Chacon: “That’s not a horrible idea, but I didn’t hear anything. Umm, we can wait until tomorrow for that.”
    Themann: “Well that’s exactly the food we need. And I will just mark it as, I do have dozens of block walkers.”

    Themann: “There’s actually stores that just mark it as ‘food’ they don’t mark different types… at Albertsons, on the receipts, it marks it just based off of brand…”
    Chacon: “I think we can use that with those [campaign pre-paid] cards to buy some food, all that s**t can be totally masked like, oh we just wanted a healthy breakfast!”

    1. Rebel Scum

      Other highlights from the video noted by Project Veritas:

      “I just hope nobody that’s the wrong person finds out about this.”
      “It’s f***ing happening.” O’Rourke Campaign Staff Uses Pre-Paid Cards for Honduran Alien Supplies
      “Don’t ever repeat this…” Campaign Staffers Explain How to Hide Campaign Expenditures for Aliens
      “If you get caught in some sort of violation that’s like a $50,000 fine,” “For me I can just ignore the rules and I’m like f**k it.”
      Transporting Aliens to “airports… bus stations,” “None of this is like sh*t there is a rulebook for”

    2. PieInTheSky

      Project Veritas – I am not yet convinced if this is legit, bullshit, or something in between

      1. straffinrun

        I’m going with something in between. Some of these are interesting insights into how the staffers are doing shady stuff, but I haven’t seen evidence that they are being directed by the candidates themselves. Probably/possibly were. Who knows?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder
          1. straffinrun

            Interesting. Knew that tape was out there. Nice to see it. Politician lies. Yep.

  22. RE: Garbage and recycling nonsense.

    Sounds like a scam worthy of Tony Soprano.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    In a tragic lapse of judgement, I decided to watch a couple of clips from Morning Joke, just to take a little glimpse into the Abyss.

    Great Googly Moogly. Listening to that unhinged ranting and raving, you’d think Trump was a serial murdering rapist and cannibal. Talk about demonization of your political foes. Ol’ Mika is practically begging somebody to take at shot at him.

    1. AlexinCT

      You unwoke fool… Only conservatives taking a shot at someone is bad. Why else would they be going through so much effort of accusing conservatives of being bad.

    2. commodious spittoon

      “Serial murdering rapist cannibal” would be a far cry better than Trump’s real crimes: he’s flagrantly anti-PC and worse still he mocks our media betters.

    3. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

      You mean he’s not a serial murdering rapist and cannibal?

  24. PieInTheSky

    Mocking vegans should not be a sackable offence

    William Sitwell has been given the heave-ho over a private joke. That’s really bad.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/10/31/mocking-vegans-should-not-be-a-sackable-offence-william-sitwell-waitrose/

    Sitwell said: ‘How about a series on killing vegans, one by one? Ways to trap them? How to interrogate them properly? Expose their hypocrisy? Force-feed them meat? Make them eat steak and drink red wine?’

    Not particularly funny but it is a joke…

    1. PieInTheSky

      Counterpoint

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/01/vegan-william-sitwell-waitrose-meat-plant

      Why do some people hate vegans so much? There are worse things in life than choosing to eat plants, after all. – that is not why people hate vegans.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Why do some people hate vegans so much?

        It’s the 99% of vegans who give the rest a bad reputation.

        IME, they are insufferable moralizing twats. A majority are also eager purveyors of pseudoscience. They’re embarrassing to intelligent and thoughtful vegans like WebDom. I can sympathize, being a vegetarian whose reputation suffers from the vast majority of vegetarians who are total shitheads.

        1. It’s funny, I developed a respect for vegetarianism and veganism in spite of the vegetarians and vegans in my life.

          Wanna learn to cook well? Cook vegetarian or vegan for a while. You can always add meat to a vegetarian plate, but meat covers a multitude of sins, and you can rely on it as a crutch when you haven’t learned how to properly develop flavors and textures.

        2. Nephilium

          If you really want to rage at fellow vegans, try making it through What the Health, which blames all health problems on eating meat and dairy.

          1. AlexinCT

            Is there a discussion on people not being real vegans if they engage in oral sex? If not, I pass on reading that stuff cause the arguments will be incomplete.

        3. But Enough About Me

          It’s the 99% of vegans who give the rest a bad reputation.

          IME, they are insufferable moralizing twats.

          I knew a restaurant chef/owner of a vegetarian/vegan restaurant back in Calgary. He once told me that his biggest customer service problems were the vegans — there were too many “factions” (for lack of a more appropriate term), and they endlessly complained that their precise form of veganism wasn’t being properly catered to by the resto’s offerings.

          Drove him crazy.

          1. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

            Was he part of the Vegan Liberation Front or the Liberation Front for Vegans?

          2. ron73440

            Fucking Splitter!

        4. Jarflax

          I am a dedicated carnivore and admittedly have a knee jerk hostile reaction to anyone announcing that they are vegan. That said, the paleo folk are just as bad. Anyone who proclaim’s their dietary choices as some sort of moral choice is insufferable. Eat your damn food, let me eat mine and let’s limit the moral preening about the whole subject.

  25. Stalin saved Europe and the world

    Russia before Stalin’s rule was not only a backward country; it was the world’s laughingstock. After the last Tusar and the country’s first communist leader Vladimir Lenin gave up large parts of the Russian Empire, mostly to Germany, at the end of World War I, no one really took Russia seriously. So when Stalin came to power, he was determined to transform Russia into a superpower – no matter the cost.

    By the late 1930s, Stalin had managed to transform the Soviet state from a backward agricultural nation to an industrial power, with a very large, if not yet very efficient army. So when Germany and her allies invaded Russia in 1941, and seemed on the verge of winning, some people were wondering why the Russians were having such a warm time crushing the Hitler-led alliance. The reasons are many and quite debatable, but there seems to have been some misinformation that many have taken to be fact, both then and now.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Tankies… tankies everywhere,,,

    2. Slammer

      Stalin had managed to transform the Soviet state from a backward agricultural nation to an industrial power

      Blood for the Blood-God, Skulls for the Skull Throne

    3. Rebel Scum

      no matter the cost.

      A steep price they paid.

      transform the Soviet state from a backward agricultural nation to an industrial power

      A backward industrial power.

      1. AlexinCT

        I content that claim about the Soviet state being an industrial power is bullshit of the highest power. The only thing the USSR was semi-competent at creating was poor quality weapons of war en masse. It irks me to no end that convincing others of the USSR having a massive nuclear capability (after it fell we found out how piss poor and downright low quality even this shit was) somehow made them an industrial power of any kind. Shit, they fell apart trying to keep up with the US in an arms race! Everything about the USSR was piss poor beyond imagining. Even today they lag third world countries.

  26. Tundra

    Books aren’t enough.

    You learn what the FAA and laws of physics require in order to safely operate an aircraft. And then you absorb, if you are fortunate, the tips, subtleties, tricks, and horrible warnings from other pilots. Some are told as stories, some arrive while watching someone else, or looking at aircraft on the ramp, but all are transmitted from pilot to pilot through speech, not printed text.

    How do you land a twin-engine plane in a screaming cross wind, especially one with relatively low-mounted wings? For pistons and some turbo-props, you can use differential power, tapping the “pull power” of one engine to help hold the plane straight so you don’t have to lower the up-wind wing so much. I learned this from men who had flown DC-3s, Beech 18s, and other tail-wheel twins. It also works for nose-wheel planes. I have never seen it mentioned in books or magazine articles, and when I quiz younger pilots, they’ve not heard of the skill. Purely oral-tradition today.

    Most of us old guys know this, but it’s a good reminder to seek out experience.

    1. Pilot’s license is on my bucket list. The flying itself is great, but the community is awesome, too.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      My instructor always explained twin engines to me as follows:

      “That second engine is to get you to the crash site”

    3. My most harrowing flight was between Seattle and Victoria BC – in a little twin engined prop plane during some major wind that sprang up. Turbulence was something else with the passenger next to me screaming in fear at one point. Everyone was really quiet, gripping the arms of their chairs. The pilot came in on the runway with the nose pointed at a 45 degree angle. And then, just as the wheels touched down, jerked the plane straight. First time I wanted to kiss the sweet, sweet ground when I got off of the plane.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Honestly, cross-wind landings were the most fun I had during my flying days. It was almost like playing a video game but for reals.

  27. As a proud champagne socialist, I know that having money doesn’t have to stop you believing in equality

    At a party last week I was asked if I was a “champagne socialist” despite the fact that I was clearly holding a banana daiquiri. This pejorative term is designed to attack and denigrate those who publicly champion socialism yet don’t necessarily look at the price of an avocado before they put it into their basket.

    In other words, we have enjoyed the benefits of capitalism, we work it but, dammit, we still don’t want to see people sleeping on the streets; or parents forced go to a food bank to feed their children. We still protest, us champagne socialists, we still believe in the welfare state.

    1. Lachowsky

      “or parents forced go to a food bank”

      We socialists prefer state run food banks. Preferably serving bread, with lines of people outside.

      1. AlexinCT

        That way we can ignore these plebe’s and their plight and feel less guilty about the fact we hit the jackpot in about the most evil system of government to be foisted on humanity…

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Then become a monk and dedicate your life to the poor instead of agitating to spend other people’s money, asshole.

    3. Rebel Scum

      we have enjoyed the benefits of capitalism

      Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.

    4. Pat

      we still don’t want to see people sleeping on the streets; or parents forced go to a food bank to feed their children.

      And you don’t. That’s the point. You fucking twat.

    5. Gadfly

      In other words, we have enjoyed the benefits of capitalism, we work it but, dammit, we still don’t want to see people sleeping on the streets;

      No one is stopping you from donating to charity. The objection to socialism is not an objection to helping people, it is an objection to coercive power being used to conform charity to the visions of the socialist. So many people seem to miss the simple truth that there is no virtue in forced charity.

  28. Lachowsky

    I got a call yesterday from one of those pollsters. I listened for a minute or so and then hung up.

    They were asking about prop 4. In arkansas prop 4 is about building some casinos. The pitch I have been hearing in favor of it is that a lot of tax revenue from arkansans is being collected in Oklahoma and Mississippi from casinos that could be collected in arkansas. The pitch is that allowing casinos in arkansas will keep that tax money in arkansas.

    FI really dont care one way or the other about casinos. I dont gamble. People should be free to build all the casinos they want and can keep operating. The prop of course doesn’t allow that, it will only allow a few connected cronies to build a few in places that the state approves. Any casinos built here will be cronyism of the highest order.

    Also, since all this new tax money is supposed to gained by allowing this, why not cut everyone’s taxes proportionally to the amount of new revenue generated. That would be nice.

    If I was a person inclined to vote, I’d vote against it.

    We also have another prop on the ballot to raise the minimum wage to 11 dollars by Jan 2020. I’m sure that one will pass. My state is determined to fuck up its status as being relatively business friendly.

    1. Not Adahn

      The process for MA opening up casinos was beyond parody.

      1. There would only be four sites, pre-determined
      2. There was a non-refundable five-figure amount of money required to be given the information on how to apply for one of those four licenses.
      3. There was an even larger non-refundable application fee.
      4. Somehow, each site had only one applicant, and each applicant was different. Supposedly this happened without any communication between the four applicants.
      5. After only one of the applications was accepted, that applicant decided they didn’t actually want that site. A losing applicant for one of the other sites suddenly decided that they really meant to apply for the one that currently had no applicants.
      6. Even though the sites had already been approved by the local governments, it was decided that earlier approval was invalid, because they didn’t know that this particular applicant was going to “win” the bidding process. A new round of negotiations/bribes follows.
      7. The “winning” applicant realizes that the site is crap, and there is no way that they will make money there. The government refuses to allow them to back out, or even to make the resort smaller.

  29. Juvenile Bluster

    One of the 12 proposed Constitutional amendments on the ballot here in Florida, Amendment 4, would return voting rights to convicted felons once their sentence is completed.

    I voted in favor of it anyways, but it got me thinking. When did we decide that once you’d committed a crime, you could have your rights taken away even once your sentence was complete? How was that found to be Constitutional?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I don’t know off the top of my head, but I’m going to bet a lot of that legislation happened in the 80’s/early 90’s. The tough on crime schtick seems to have peaked right around then.

    2. Tundra

      Interestingly, it seems to be a state-by-state issue.

      TW: ACLU

      1. Sean

        Huh. Very interesting, I though there were more states did not allow Felons to vote.

    3. westernsloper

      That is a good question. The bill of rights does not have a disclaimer for criminals that I am aware of.

      Here we have a constitutional amendment changing language making it illegal to use convicts as slaves.

      Shall there be an amendment to the Colorado constitution that prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude as punishment for a crime and thereby prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude in all circumstances?

    4. The Last American Hero

      I believe the rationale is that the prison sentence is only one part, albeit a significant one, of the entire punishment.

    5. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

      “No person shall … be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law ”

      I’m guessing that voting falls under the liberty category.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    The natives are restless

    “Over the past couple of weeks, several of our colleagues have respectfully shared letters of intent expressing interest in various House Democratic Caucus leadership positions,” Richmond wrote in the letter.

    “It is within that context that I’d like to reiterate that if there is any change in our top leadership positions the Democratic Members of the CBC endorse African-American representation in at least one of the two top positions of elected House Democratic Caucus leadership.”

    Some Democratic sources are not interpreting the letter as a threat to directly challenge Pelosi or Hoyer, but instead taking it as indication that the CBC would only make a run if one of those spots became open, pointing to text in the letter that says, “if there is any change in our top leadership positions.”

    While the letter makes clear that the CBC would like one of their own at the very top, it does not explicitly endorse Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), the No. 3 House Democrat, for the job.

    But with growing calls for a younger and more diverse leadership, some frustrated rank-and-file have made the argument that Clyburn could make history by becoming the first black Speaker, while also serving as a “bridge” to the new generation.

    With any luck, the Democrats will be so busy squabbling among themselves and stabbing each other in the back for the next two years, we’ll see complete paralysis in the legislature.

    1. Rebel Scum

      more diverse

      Their concept of “diversity” is only skin deep.

  31. Evan from Evansville

    I wanted to post on the Nickname article but that’s obviously dead.

    People only call me Evan at work—if there were another foreigner here I’m sure that the Koreans would change. I turn into Ev immediately out in the wild. I much prefer it. It also is a nice teacher’s signature.

    Now my last name, I have problems with. The normal version is probably one of the more common surnames in English. It has two T’s. My name only has one T and is much more rare.

    So every time that I have to give my name for a reservation or to verify something, I have introduce myself saying “Evan ______, ________ with one T.” Very frequently the person on the other end will say “Yeah….I’m not seeeeeein’ it.”

    *A very pained and fed up expression*

    “Did you spell it correctly?”

    “Yep, _________.”

    “Did you only use one T?”

    “Yep.”

    “I don’t think you did.”

    Then they retype it correctly and say “Oh, here you are!” and then I shove my dick into their eye socket.

    1. I have a similar issue with a trailing S. There are a few famous people with the same last name, but a trailing S. At this point, I just roll with it unless it’s going on my driver license or something.

    2. Pat

      My full name might as well be Limey McIrishman. Mostly everybody calls me Pat.

      1. Nephilium

        Fitzgerald?

        1. Pat

          Arguably more stereotypical. I’m only like 1/4 Irish too.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            One drop!

            (not sure if that’s blood or alcohol)

          2. Rasilio

            There’s a difference for the Irish?

      2. Jarflax

        Do you have long arguments with a guy named Mike in which you both humorously misunderstand what the other is saying? Do these arguments end with one or the other of you being struck with an umbrella?

    3. Luther Baldwin

      Buters?

  32. Elias Khoury: Socialism: What it is, what it is not

    What many think of as socialism is not socialism. Socialism is not simply the mere presence of a public sector. It is not defined as, “When the government does things.” Moreover, socialism is not a blanket term you can attach to anything left of center. Socialism is not welfare, nor is it a progressive system of taxation.

    Rather, socialism is a political and economic theory calling for workers’ control of the means of production. This means the abolition of private property and the creation of a system that allows for public control of the economy. Many often take the “abolition of private property” to mean that you cannot own things — nonsense!

    Chalk this up to a simple misunderstanding of terminology. In the socialist lexicon, private property refers to privately-owned facilities used to produce goods and services (factories, infrastructure, etc.). One’s belongings (computer, car, backpack, etc.) are referred to as “personal property.”

    Anything added to that definition, any qualification about how a socialist government organizes or how its economy is structured, is not intrinsic to socialism and is not universal among all schools of socialism. There are many flavors of socialism and they at times endorse very different schools of socialist thought. Thusly, socialism can present itself in various forms. This can, understandably, cause some confusion.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Many often take the “abolition of private property” to mean that you cannot own things — nonsense!

      If I can’t decide what to do with my property then it isn’t mine.

      This is akin to the argument I was having with my wife over free will and prophecy. If the future is pre-written then there is no free will.

      1. This is akin to the argument I was having with my wife over free will and prophecy. If the future is pre-written then there is no free will.

        This, of course, assumes that all entities involved are subject to linear time the same way that we are.

        1. Raphael

          +1 The Old Ones.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Warty Hugeman excepted, obviously

      2. Rebel Scum

        To be fair, they are distinguishing (or trying to) two types of private property by calling the type that lend production “private” and thing that you own and use personally as “personal”. It is still wrong.

        private adjective
        pri·​vate | \ˈprī-vət \
        Definition of private (Entry 1 of 2)
        1a : intended for or restricted to the use of a particular person, group, or class
        a private park
        b : belonging to or concerning an individual person, company, or interest
        a private house

        Commies always fucking with the language…

      3. Just Say’n

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregatio_de_Auxiliis

        That argument’s been settled.

        “Eh…you both have a point”, I think was the conclusion

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Interesting, I brought up the topic of the Calvinists during the argument, seems I was closer to the crux of it than I thought. Thanks for the link.

          1. Just Say’n

            The weirdest part about this dispute is that the Dominicans were leaning on St. Augustine’s thought (which I guess flirted with the concept that the world was predetermined) in opposition to the Jesuits who were leaning on St. Aquinas (who emphasized complete and total free will). But, St. Aquinas was a Dominican. Haha

          2. Pat

            To be fair, predestination is probably one of the least retarded theological eccentricities of the Calvinists.

            I spent a week at a multi-denominational summer retreat in high school when I was a church leader. By the end of the week the one thing everyone seemed to agree on was that the Calvinists in attendance were assholes.

          3. Just Say’n

            And guess what- God already knew that you guys were all going to think that. Doesn’t change the fact that probably most of you who thought that were already going to hell anyways.

          4. Pat

            Lol. You joke, but that’s not all that far off from how some of the workshops went.

    2. Suthenboy

      Socialism = What is mine is mine, what is yours is mine.

      It is theft, plain and simple.

      1. PieInTheSky

        What is mine is mine, what is yours is ours. Sounds better this way. More selfless. Sure, you don’t get to see much of our property but thems be the breaks.

        1. AlexinCT

          It is not a coincidence that under capitalism those that get rich also get power, but it is always the case under socialism that only the powerful will get rich…

      2. AlexinCT

        Always told my ex that she was a socialist…

  33. PieInTheSky

    Japan could see its territorial waters shrink near its maritime border with Russia after a tiny island off its north-east coast “disappeared”.

    The uninhabited islet, called Esanbe Hanakita Kojima, is thought to have slipped beneath the waves, apparently unnoticed by residents living in Sarufutsu, a village on the northern tip of the main island of Hokkaido 500 metres away.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/02/japanese-island-disappears-esanbe-hanakita-kojima

    the sneaky ruskies stole it

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      GLOBAL WARMING WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE

    2. Gadfly

      Fortunately, the Chinese have already demonstrated a solution for this problem.

  34. Juvenile Bluster

    I swear. If Jacob Wohl didn’t exist the left would have to make him up. And if I hadn’t known of his existence before this I’d think they did make him up.

    https://twitter.com/GossiTheDog/status/1058286750378967040

    1. Raphael

      The guy is parody itself. It splits my sides.

      1. Just Say’n

        He’s the Michael Aventti of the Right, except he doesn’t get fawning media coverage and his unsubstantiated sexual assault allegations aren’t repeated incredulously by the media.

        If anything, I think the ferocity and the actual investigation that the media has undertaken with Wohl’s accuser, versus the lack of any investigation and the delayed publication of evidence that undercut Aventti’s accuser, actually makes the media look worse. But, “both sides” or something

        1. Raphael

          That’s what I was thinking he was like. Shame Avenatti gets to get away with this bullshit for the most part.

          1. Just Say’n

            Wohl is a weirdo, but it’s striking how differently we treat different types of weirdos nowadays

  35. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1058329927999729664

    Woman chokes out man who she thought grabbed her rear. *Shame* *Shame* they all say, because video shows he didn’t touch her rear. As if choking someone out is somehow excused if they grabbed your ass.

    1. straffinrun

      What the hell? Was the bouncer wasted? His arms don’t even move while this lady is choking him.

      1. Just Say’n

        Maybe he thought it was foreplay?

      2. Evan from Evansville

        Tis verily true—he is no Dalton.

      3. Chipwooder

        Yeah, that’s……odd

      4. Brett L

        Never hit a woman on camera. That guy knows what he’s doing. He’s getting paid.

    2. Raphael

      Jeez, the poor bouncer.

    3. The Last American Hero

      Fuck cameras – tools of the patriarchy.

      #believeher

  36. The Late P Brooks

    The pitch I have been hearing in favor of it is that a lot of tax revenue from arkansans is being collected in Oklahoma and Mississippi from casinos that could be collected in arkansas. The pitch is that allowing casinos in arkansas will keep that tax money in arkansas.

    Around here, we get a variant of that sort of thinking which goes, “Them goshdarn turrists is using up our roadz and such, and not paying for it!” It’s always Them vs Us.

    Yes, because Montana has made a conscious decision to transform the state economy from agriculture and resource “harvesting” to nice clean tourism. But there’s no sales tax. Sales taxes are evil because who the fuck knows why; probably to get back at the Copper Kings, in some convoluted way. Nobody mentions the gas tax, or the taxes on rental cars and hotel rooms. Somebody needs to pay, and it’s always somebody else.

    1. Pat

      They should try the Nevada approach. Legalize gambling, tax the fuck out of everything except income, and take special care to soak the tourists. For some reason 25 million retards a year find that an irresistible proposition.

      1. Nephilium

        Because of shows like this! Burlesque, classic cars, live bands, bowling, decently priced alcohol, what more do you want?

  37. Rufus the Monocled

    I can’t believe anyone would cast a vote for the Democrats seeing their behaviour since 2016 and the fact they’re far left morons. Why would they give Pelosi a chance at speaking Speaker? It’s baffling.

    Also, the girl who says she got raped in an airplane bathroom. How is that possible? Not just because of the limited space but how could it happen without anyone seeing or not hearing her (presumably) scream for help?

    1. Rebel Scum

      They will win some because the propaganda from CNN and MSDNC is 24/7. The gf’s parents, for instance, view CNN as gospel. They probably haven’t even seen a whiff of the leftist crazy and haven’t tried to cultivate multiple sources of info. These are people that think they are open-minded and thoughtful. They and people like them are not.

      1. Luther Baldwin

        They probably haven’t even seen a whiff of the leftist crazy

        If they’re watching CNN or MSNBC, they’re already seeing a ton of leftist crazy.

        1. Rebel Scum

          *narrows gaze*

          You know what I meant…

  38. Just Say’n

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/opinion/caravan-hate-speech-bowers-sayoc.html

    Pseudoscience explains how “hate speech” is problematic. Excuse, me, I meant “neuroscience”, which is a branch of pseudoscience.

    FTA:

    “You don’t need to be a psychiatrist to understand that the kind of hate and fear-mongering that is the stock-in-trade of Mr. Trump and his enablers can goad deranged people to action. But psychology and neuroscience can give us some important insights into the power of powerful people’s words.”

    And…

    “Were the men arrested in the synagogue shootings and bombing attacks listening? Robert Bowers, for example, apparently blamed Jews for helping transport members of the Central American migrant caravan. It seems he did not think the president was going far enough in protecting the country from invaders. “I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered,” he wrote online before the murderous rampage. And Cesar Sayoc Jr., accused of mailing bombs to CNN, echoed the president in a tweet: “More lies con job Propaganda bye failing failing CNN garbage.”

    But you don’t have to be this unhinged to be moved to violence by incendiary rhetoric. Just about any of us could be susceptible under the right conditions.”

    Well, naturally, we need to outlaw such speech

    1. Just Say’n

      To clarify, I didn’t mean to say that neuroscience is a pseudoscience.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I’ll go ahead and condemn myself for whataboutism but Steve Scalise has a sad.

    2. Raphael

      What the hell ever happened to the old saying about sticks and stones? Jeebus.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Maybe these hams can explain then, why Don Lemon and the Nation of Islam are not considered hate speech but Roseanne and Kelly are.

      See where I’m going with this?

      I can’t believe these people get paid. Seriously.

    4. Pat

      These conclusions are easy to draw, except when Bernie Bros attempt to assassinate Republican congressmen at a baseball game, or someone with at least one Mohammad in his full name decides to mass murder people while yelling something about snackbars, or some environmentally conscious youth activists accidentally swings his bike lock into somebody’s face.

    5. Rebel Scum

      Just about any of us could be susceptible under the right conditions.

      Progjection.

  39. Evan from Evansville

    According to family lore, I am related to Daniel Boone.

    He used to hole up in southwestern Virginia, near Abingdon. My dad’s side has been there for like 400 years.

    This is The Tavern there. It’s the oldest building still standing in the town. Now it’s a restaurant run by a German guy. If I were married and had a bunch of money, it would be a place that I might like to summer in. It’s still very much got a “1950s town” vibe going with it. Very affluent town as well, but the demographics there are crazily skewed towards the elderly.

    Whereas I was born about an hour away in Bluefield, WV, which is actually pretty impressive in the shittiness that pervades it.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Abingdon is a nice place. And yeah, Bluefield is hell with trees.

    2. Just Say’n

      That bar looks awesome.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        It’s more of a fancy restaurant.

        Built in 1799. It has the coolest feel to it. Old, warped wood and uneven floors. Was a fantastic place to have dinner with the grandparents.

        Oh, another name thing. My mom’s parents were just grandma and grandpa. My father’s dad was Poppee and she was just Betsy. I guess it is odd that we just called her by her first name, but those were the rules. My dad is PopPop (after Arrested Development) to his grandkids at the insistence of my brother.

        1. Just Say’n

          Man, the south is weird

    3. PieInTheSky

      I doubt Boone would visit a place of low repute such as Evansville

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Oh, how would you know?!

    4. AlexinCT

      According to family lore I am related to both Julius Caesar and John Holmes…

      1. Rasilio

        So should we just start calling you Biggus Dickus then?

        1. Democratic Hitler

          *heavily stifled laughter*

    5. Pope Jimbo

      Look, Lizzie Warren Jr. Do we have to explain DNA science to you again?

      Did you get that new job by misrepresenting yourself as an actual relative of Boone? Will you quietly drop that from your company bio, once you have tenure?

      1. Evan from Evansville

        I thought about making a Fauxcahontas joke but that it was too obvious. 🙂

        It’s one of those things that I don’t want to look at to verify (UNLESS IT’S TRUE!), but he did hang around that area for a considerable amount of time. There’s a Wolf Cave there, with this inscription: “Lair of wolves which attacked Daniel Boone’s dogs 1760 and from which came the Original name of this town. Wolf Hills.”

        (I know you’re joking), but I just enjoy it as being a traditional part of my family’s story. Doesn’t at all matter if it’s real. (UNLESS IT’S TRUE!)

        History on my mom’s side: My grandfather (said he) was one of three guys to affix an Allied radio antennae on the top of the Eiffel Tower. What is verifiable is that he was in Nurmburg for the trails. He just partied and danced with German girls. Poppee, on the other hand, was a mechanic for the trucks going over the Burma Road with the Flying Tigers.

        He got malaria several times. Life is unfair.

    6. Tres Cool

      There a Wampler-Longacre chicken place in Bluefield, as I recall. Probably the only time I vomited on a job.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Psh. Fucking amateur hour here. I once puked ON a student!

        I am not going to sugarcoat it–I vomited all over her feet.

        She was OK. After 6 or 7 weeks came around and started talking again.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    Also, the girl who says she got raped in an airplane bathroom. How is that possible? Not just because of the limited space but how could it happen without anyone seeing or not hearing her (presumably) scream for help?

    Hypnosis. It works every time.

    1. The Last American Hero

      They heard her, but word has it they were waiting in line for their turn while Brett Kavenaugh was selling tickets and keeping an eye on the clock.

  41. Suthenboy

    “Please save us from the wretched country…whose flag we are waving proudly.”

    And burning the American flag. Call it what it is – it is an invasion by people that hate this country.

    1. Drake

      Sponsored by rich people who really hate this country.

      1. AlexinCT

        To expand the dependent voting class one party counts on for power quicker since the local rubes are not still not lining up quick enoug after 12 plus years of indoctrination…

        1. Drake

          Blue collar Americans have proven to be uncooperative serfs, so we’ll import millions of real peasants.

          1. AlexinCT

            ^^^THIS^^^

            Read it and read it again.

          2. Rebel Scum

            Stolen.

  42. MikeS

    Happy Birthday North Dakota!

    Oh…and I guess you too, SoDak.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      *Minnesodans line up on the Red river to form a spanking machine for the NoDaks*

  43. The Late P Brooks

    You don’t need to be a psychiatrist to understand that the kind of hate and fear-mongering that is the stock-in-trade of Mr. Trump and his enablers can goad deranged people to action.

    Thank goodness there is no hateful fear-mongering coming from the other TEAM. Nothing but earnest pleas for peace, love and understanding.

    1. Just Say’n

      I’m just glad that hate and fear-mongering has never been a hallmark of our politics until Literally Hitler became president.

  44. PieInTheSky

    Bus plunges into Chinese river after fight between driver and passenger

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/02/china-bus-yangtze-river-fight-driver-passenger-chongqing

    Fifteen people are feared dead after a bus in the Chinese city of Chongqing plunged from a bridge into the Yangtze River during a fight between the driver and a woman who missed her stop, police have said.

    As Ricky Gervais said, it is better to arrive at work late than dead.

  45. MikeS

    re: Cheerleader kneeling. Allow me to be pedantic for a moment.

    None of those cheerleaders were properly respecting the flag. Holding your forearm horizontal across your chest with a pompom in your hand might look cool, but it’s not “proper”.

    1. Raphael

      That stirred my borscht.

    2. MikeS

      If she called to say she wanted to spend some quality time with me, I’d be russian right over.

      1. Tundra

        Totally. That’s a lada nice thigh.

      2. Rebel Scum

        Quit Stalin, you know where to grab her.

    3. Just Say’n

      “That’s hot.”

      And that’s why a widow with kids would post it

      1. Chipwooder

        Pretty girls like to show off their goods. Thus has it ever been, thus it will always be.

    4. Michael

      Holy shit. In some of her photos that chick is a near-identical doppelganger of one of my exes that turned out to be a manipulative sociopath. Most certainly WOULD NOT.

      Or maybe…did?

      Jesus H. Christ on a crutch.

  46. LJW

    No link, just here to say if the Democrats win the house Maxine Waters could very well be the head of the Committee on Financial Services. Get your popcorn out it’s going to be quite the show.

  47. Just Say’n

    The most offensive and dangerous thing that President Trump has ever said occurred yesterday when he said that if rocks are thrown at soldiers on the border that will be considered “deadly force” and will be met with equally deadly force. But, now that he’s said something that should rightfully be condemned watch everyone brush over it, because if everything is an outrage than nothing is an outrage.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Agreed

    2. Raphael

      Ho, boy.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      J-Say, why is that so egregious?

      Yeah, shooting someone over a handful of gravel, or a really small rock doesn’t warrant a shooting. But if they are heaving decent sized rocks at the troops, what are you supposed to do? Those rocks can fuck someone up, so the troops can’t just stand there and take it. Do they just run away?

      I’m not advocating for opening up on the crowd of immigrants, but if you escalate the confrontation, you had better be willing to back up your play.

      1. Just Say’n

        I think shooting someone for throwing a rock at you would be escalating the confrontation. There are other less deadly forms of deterrence, but Trump spoke specifically about deadly force, which is outrageous. It would be the same situation if a cop opened fire on a protester who threw a rock at him.

        1. Jarflax

          Bullshit. Sorry, but this is such a bullshit idea and so often expressed that I have to be blunt. If someone initiates an armed assault the person assaulted has NO moral obligation to endure it simply because his arms are better. If you attack a man who has a gun with a knife, a rock, or even just a club he has every moral right to respond by shooting you.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Tear gas, rubber bullets, and water cannons would work fine. Gunning down people for chucking rocks is just stupid.

        1. straffinrun

          If they are on Mexico’s side of the border, Mexico is responsible for stopping the crime. If they want their sovereignty not to be treated the way Israel treats Gaza, they better handle it.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I think they’ve already shown they won’t handle it.

          2. Tundra

            Don’t worry. The CIA is already working a deal with the cartels. The last thing they want is 15,000 troops on the border.

            /hopes he’s kidding

          3. Don Escaped Texas

            don’t fhttps://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/friedmans-just-another-word-for-nothing-left-to-lose/orget

            . . . which was suggested to me by my adviser on border issues, former Texas Ranger Joaquin Jackson. We divide the border into five jurisdictions, assign each one to a Mexican general, and put two million dollars into bank accounts that we control, one for each general. Then, each time we catch an illegal crossing through a general’s jurisdiction, we withdraw five thousand dollars from that account.

          4. straffinrun

            Then the US is justified in invading the area where the projectiles are coming from. If it comes down to a battle of “migrants” vs the US military, that looks terrible. US military vs Mexican Military/border patrol makes more sense.

          5. Just Say’n

            Oh come on, no one is invading Mexico. It didn’t work out too well for us last time. And the likelihood of our military opening fire on unarmed civilians, I think is low.

            But, a commander-in-chief should not say such a flippant remark. That’s immoral and illegal.

          6. straffinrun

            We’re no where near being justified in invading Mexico. I’m talking more about long term if this stuff becomes regular occurrences. Mexico has to handle this and they need to be informed that these “caravans” crashing the border is not acceptable.

          7. Just Say’n

            Mexico isn’t blameless here, but in this case they’ve tried to stopped the caravan by offering the migrants asylum in Mexico while they apply for asylum in the US. I think Mexico is out of ideas. They don’t know what to do in this situation, since their usual policy of mistreating migrants and then swiftly deporting them back to their homes won’t work this time with all the cameras around.

          8. straffinrun

            Being incompetent isn’t the best defense for Mexico to go with. Yes, they are in a bad position, but so is the US. Both governments have been turning a blind eye to illegal immigration for decades (sometimes openly encouraging it) and these mass marches on the border were a predictable consequence. Give me open borders and I’m fine with that because it would force an end to the welfare state. The current situation is just dragging out the inevitable and causing more pain for everyone involved.

          9. Just Say’n

            Israeli soldiers do not shoot at people throwing rocks at them. Or, at least, they would never admit as much. Not even Mexican police opened fire on the migrants when they started throwing rocks at them. Employing deadly force will only make the situation worse.

          10. straffinrun

            I absolutely agree. They have to stop them with appropriate force. Shooting, even rubber bullets, would be foolish.

          11. AlexinCT

            Tasers? Honey traps?

          12. Just Say’n

            Agreed.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Those are all things that non-military groups like cops and the border control should use. Those are not things that our military should be messing around with.

          I say that because if we start training our military to use non-lethal bullshit, then the temptation will be to use them in more situations. I think that is stupid.

          If you want to use the military, be ready to see a pile of bodies. I’m not saying that the military should kill a bunch of people, I’m just saying that if you make the threat, be ready to follow through.

          Maybe this is the equivalent of don’t pull a gun if you don’t intend to use it?

          1. Just Say’n

            Or military has been engaged in counterinsurgency operations with hostile populations for the past twenty years in places like Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, and all the other areas throughout the world that we have troops, although we never discuss it.

            Our military is equipped to deal with this kind of situation and I would hope that our military leadership would disregard an obviously immoral and illegal order to fire on unarmed civilians.

          2. Gadfly

            Our military is equipped to deal with this kind of situation and I would hope that our military leadership would disregard an obviously immoral and illegal order to fire on unarmed civilians.

            A person throwing rocks is not an unarmed civilian. Rock projectiles may be one of the most primitive forms of weapons, but they are still weapons and can and do kill (albeit with much lesser efficacy than more advanced weapons). Replying to a thrown rock with a kill shot is an undue escalation, but if other means of defense are used and prove ineffective it is not wrong to continue to escalate in order to defend oneself. Obviously I think that non-lethal force should be used first, but if you have a mob throwing rocks that somehow manages to continue their violence after having been pepper sprayed and bean bagged or whatever, then I don’t think it is unjustifiable to use firearms. Ideally the police force outnumbers the rioters so it does not escalate to this.

          3. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Calling a rock a gun doesn’t make it a gun though and shooting people for throwing rocks would constitute a disproportionate use of force in my mind. I get that there are dangers in what is basically using the military as a pseudo police force but the greater danger lies in sanctioning the gunning down of people who could be handled with nonlethal force.

          4. Tres Cool

            someone linked this the other day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System
            Would likely come in hand along the border, I think

      3. Rebel Scum

        It’s ‘The Boston Massacre’ all over again.

      4. The Bearded Hobbit

        Kent State would like a word with you.

    4. Not Adahn

      Can they shoot back with pellet guns? .22LR? Can Cannons loaded with seltzer cans?

      I’m trying to figure out what the equivalent of “possible but unlikely to kill you” is.

      1. Rebel Scum

        I am in favor of peppering the “migrant caravan” with tear gas until they turn around.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Waivers

    The U.S. has agreed to let eight countries — including Japan, India and South Korea — keep buying Iranian oil after it reimposes sanctions on the OPEC producer on Nov. 5, a senior administration official said.

    While the Trump administration’s goal remains to choke off revenue to Iran’s economy, waivers are being granted in exchange for continued import cuts so as not to drive up oil prices, said the official, who asked not to be identified before Secretary of State Michael Pompeo announces the number of exemptions later on Friday.

    China — the leading importer of Iranian oil — is still in discussions with the U.S. on terms, but is among the eight, according to two people familiar with the discussions who also asked not to be identified. The other four countries that will get waivers weren’t identified.

    It’s a dumb question, and reveals the extent of my lack of sophistication, but why the fuck are we inserting ourselves in commercial transactions between foreign entities?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      I know a later answer. The reasoning is the same as boycotting the advertisers of a TV show. Rather than just boycott the TV show by turning it off you hurt them by going after how they make their money. Just the US not doing business with Iran won’t have much an affect unless we can shut off the other money spigots as well.

  49. Michael

    Re: Chicago recycling

    You guys truly have no idea what a ridiculous clown show this situation is.

    “Create an incentive. Like we did with the plastic bags. When we banned them, it didn’t work. When we created a financial incentive or disincentive from taking one of those single-use bags, there was an 80 percent drop in single-use bags,” Arena said.

    Interestingly enough, the lines at the checkout seem to have gotten considerably shorter since the bag tax went into effect. This is purely anecdotal on my part, of course, but I’d be very interested in seeing some numbers from city grocers and retailers because my hunch is that people are doing a lot more of their shopping in the immediately surrounding suburbs and Indiana now.

    Arena also joined the Illinois Environmental Council in demanding a review of managed competition, which has allowed Waste Management to mark blue recycling carts as contaminated — even though that company has a “financial incentive to divert” the contents of those recycling bins to “landfills that they own.”

    When recycling carts are slapped with “contaminated” stickers, Waste Management bypasses the carts, but is still paid recycling fees while city crews pick up the contaminated bins. That forces Chicago taxpayers to pay twice.

    If you take your recycling out to the bin in a bag – no matter if the bag is paper or plastic – but drop the entire full bag into the bin instead of emptying it, they’ll tag your bin as “contaminated”. Their explanation for this is that bags clog the sorting machinery at the facility. How separated recyclables which still include bags don’t clog the machinery is anybody’s guess. Every single surrounding suburb seems to have managed single-sort recycling without issue for over two decades now. Great job implementing this program, you fucking idiots.

    1. Just Say’n

      Arena is a jackass alderman. He thinks he represents Wicker Park rather than Jefferson Park. Most of his constituents want to string him up and I doubt that he’ll win re-election. Maybe he’s just trying to get himself a cushy job with some progressive organization after he loses re-election.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      I remember my wife and I going to a fancy Taste of Minnesoda event where you could walk around and sample a bunch of stuff. When we had a plate or glass to toss in the trash we found out that every trash can on the event floor was guarded by a fanatic recycling cop who made sure you put the trash in the correct container.

      Later we were sitting near the back of the event and saw the janitor haul out a bunch of the full containers (all different types). He threw the contents of all of them into the same dumpster. We giggled pretty hard at that.

      1. Michael

        It’s never been about environmental stewardship. It’s all about control. Can you imagine the kind of petty tyrant that volunteers for such a gig? I would have just dropped the plate on the floor at their feet.

      2. Just Say’n

        Minnesota fascists say “please” and “thank you”. Man, that’s a dangerous state the more I think about it.

        1. Michael

          Hey, dumb question – did you vote? I’m currently debating myself over getting my lazy ass to the polls, but I’m not sure what to do about the candidates running unopposed. Can you write in “FUCK YOU, CUT SPENDING” or will that spoil the ballot?

          1. blighted_non_millenial

            Not sure about your state, but I just left them blank. That works fine in Ga. I couldn’t be assed to actually go through the steps of writing and submitting something no one was gonna read.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Just leave it blank. I do that all the time.

            My wet dream would be some race where thousands upon thousands of ballots were cast but the winner had 20 some votes compared to 10 votes his opponent got. Maybe the media could make something out of that story?

            Who am I kidding. Their coverage would consist only of the winner claiming a “mandate” to enact his shitty vision.

          3. MikeS

            One more vote for leaving them blank. It’s called “undervoting“.

          4. MikeS

            A local blogger just did an article on this. I thought it was pretty good.

            It’s Ok if You Don’t Vote, and if You Do Vote It’s Ok to Leave Parts of Your Ballot Blank

          5. slumbrew

            Yep, I just did that about 20 minutes ago (slid under the wire – early voting ends at noon).

            I left the entire middle section of the ballot blank, since it was all unopposed Ds.

            Ayanna Pressley can fuck right off.

            (sadly, it’s a symbolic protest on my part)

      3. Lachowsky

        The city I work in was charging its residents a fee to take recyclables along with the trash service. They had been charging the fee and collecting recyclables for several years before anyone noticed that they were taking everything to the land fill. I thought it was funny as hell.

  50. PieInTheSky

    The Romanian ornithological society are currently voting for the bird of the year in Romania which seems awful silly

    The finalist are

    Upupa epops

    Falco tinnunculus

    Lanius collurio

    Turdus merula

    Athene noctua

    1. Tundra

      Meh. I’ll take the Parus major over any of those.

      1. PieInTheSky

        Well Parus major is not on the list ok, and it won’t be cause you need two of them and this is a single bird competition

    2. AlexinCT

      Pie, do you know what the bird of true love is? No it is not the dove: that is the bird of love. I am asking about the bird of true love…

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Well, we know it’s not the Orioles in the U.S.

      /stoic grin.

    4. Suthenboy

      For us it was a near toss up between the turkey and the bald eagle. As expected they chose wrong. Turkey is delicious, eagle is not.

      1. Tundra

        …eagle is not.

        It’s pretty good smoked. Tastes kind of like California Condor.

        1. straffinrun

          Pretty good spread, too.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Always thinking with your stomach, Suthen. That is exactly the thinking behind Korea choosing the beagle as their national symbol!

    5. CPRM

      Turdus

      *Bevis laugh*

      1. PieInTheSky

        Do not mock the humble blackbird you racist

    6. Not Adahn

      Rock Me Tinnunculus!

  51. The Late P Brooks

    Finally, an adult speaks up.

    At a time when the nation is reeling from a horrific attack against a religious group that killed 11 Americans, and from a bomber who targeted people for their politics, President Trump has chosen to inflame rather than heal — for the most cynical of reasons: He hopes to boost the election prospects of Republicans. Politics doesn’t get much more dishonest and depraved than this.

    That’s why you MUST go to the pols and vote a straight Democrat ticket. To prove you are above petty party politics.

  52. Rebel Scum

    Don Lemon get’s a black-slap.

    Within a space of five seconds, CNN’s Don Lemon went from saying we shouldn’t demonize people to broadly labeling white men as our nation’s ‘biggest terror threat.’ That’s not responsible journalism. This cannot stand. CNN President Jeff Zucker recently called out the White House for its criticism of the media, saying President Trump doesn’t comprehend the importance of the words he uses. It’s time for Zucker to put his own house in order – starting with explaining how Don Lemon’s outrageous statement can stand in light of Zucker’s call for civility.

    1. tarran

      You know, I solved the problem by ending my consumption of media from CNN.

      Not completely; in the past twelve months, I think I’ve read three, maybe four, articles they’ve published.

      It’s kind of funny how much life improves when one stops interacting with the people in the asylum.

      1. This.

        News is just socially acceptable voyeurism with a component of shared outrage. My life is much better without it.

        Social media is the same, but 10x as much.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Completely cut it out of my diet. Same with ‘traditional media’. It’s been over 20 years.

        How has it been? Think when you switch to a superior brand of food and then eat the same kind but of an inferior quality? You can’t believe you used to eat the cheaper variant.

        Well the same with news. I sometimes get a glimpse of broadcast news and can but laugh. It’s mind boggling how anyone can think that’s news.

  53. The Late P Brooks

    More Bloomberg:

    I’ve never been a partisan person, but in this election, I believe that Americans who revere our Constitution — no matter what their party affiliation — should vote for Democrats, to ensure that Congress can check and balance a reckless and out-of-control president, and thwart his worst instincts.

    We need leaders who will bring us together, and not stand for those who would rip us — and our Constitution — apart. There are many reasons to vote for Democrats in this election: Republicans in Congress have failed to lead on all the most pressing challenges facing our country. But preserving the integrity of our Constitution is the most important.

    Yeah, when I sit down to make a list of strict Constitutionalists, that Bloomberg guy is right there at the top. And when i ask myself who can bring this nation together and heal the wounds of partisan acrimony, it’s the Democrats, hnds down.

    It could work.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      This guy.

      Wow.

    2. AlexinCT

      Puff, puff, pass dude…

    3. Rebel Scum

      I believe that Americans who revere our Constitution — no matter what their party affiliation — should vote for Democrats

      Is this guy forreal?

      1. Rebel Scum

        not stand for those who would rip us — and our Constitution — apart.

        Something something shall not be infringed.

      2. AlexinCT

        What he meant to say was that Americans that revere the way the left wants to interpret the Constitution and know which parts of that over 100 year old document should be kept and which can be done away with, should vote democrat…

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        Except the 1A and 2A. The former needs tweaking to include hate speech and the latter needs to be gutted because common sense.

    4. Raphael

      We don’t exist in the same reality do we?

    5. Pope Jimbo

      Republicans in Congress have failed to lead on all the most pressing challenges facing our country

      You know if the Dems had just shut the fuck up, the GOP voters would have stayed away in droves. They would have still been so pissed at the GOP for being too feckless to repeal Obamacare, they would refuse to vote for them.

      But nope. They had to go full crazy. Kavanaugh, caravans, etc. Now those GOP voters will actually go just to vote against Dems.

      1. Florida Man

        I was planning on deregistering, but the Kavanaugh circus pissed me off enough to vote straight R, which I haven’t done since 2000.

    6. Evan from Evansville

      OK, I know that we talk about it a bunch here. But what the fuck has Trump done that is ANY different than what his predecessors did?

      He’s boorish and loud. But they made fun of W as well. Is the answer really just that Team Blue lost and they can’t handle it? I can’t think of anything that’s he has actually done. What do they think that he has done to verify their fears of the rapey, racist and anti-LBTQ monstrosities he has committed?

      It really is that Team Blue lost. But jesus, why is everyone Useful Idioting their way for their overlords….and they sincerely believe it. (Yes, I know that is why they are useful idiots.) I just haven’t seen this with my own eyes before in my lifetime. They have actually and truly detached their perceptions from reality.

      I don’t get it.

      1. PieInTheSky

        I think boorish means he does away with the veneer of elegance that many want power associated with

        1. whiz

          I thought the Clintons already did that.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        He’s fucking up the business model.

        If they don’t destroy him, the whole incestuous relationship between the media, politicians and lobbyists could get fucked. You can’t have some guy win high elected office without doing the requisite bowing and scraping to the media and lobbyists! How can you negotiate with a guy who isn’t beholding to the status quo?

      3. Rasilio

        In that respect you could generally say the same about Obama.

        Outside of Obamacare what has he actually done that was any different from his Republican Predecessor? Same foreign policy, same economic policy, largely identical domestic policy, sure his rhetoric was awful on a lot of fronts but even some of that was more a problem of his followers not anything he personally said

    7. Don Escaped Texas

      But preserving the integrity of our Constitution is the most important

      I am pretty sure I would vote for anyone, including Trump, who promised to secure the repeal of the Patriot Act and FISA while acknowledging that the right to do pretty much whatever I want, including bear arms, is enshrined in the 9A. Short of a clear understanding demonstrated by agreements such as these, I continue to wish a pox upon both their houses.

    8. Democratic Hitler

      Progressives trying to claim the mantle of protecting the constitution always make me laugh. It’s like, dude, you guys will say literally anything , no matter how patently absurd.

  54. PieInTheSky

    In other local news:

    A life quality study decided a family of 4 in urban Romania needs 1650 USD per month in after tax income for a “decent life”

    Professors at the police academy were arrested for selling exams in advance to candidates

    A secretary at the Polytechnic university was found to be filming amateur porn on the university premise after hours. Students said she was a very nice woman and always helpful if they had problems.

    Bucharest airport is considering a new terminal

    Switzerland will completely lift labor restrictions for Romanian citizen in 2019, and as such we can become servants of the Swiss should we choose.

    1. A life quality study decided a family of 4 in urban Romania needs 1650 USD per month in after tax income for a “decent life”

      Interesting. That number seems extremely low to me. What is your impression?

      1. PieInTheSky

        Depends on what you pay for housing, but should be enough for a ok but not luxurious lifestyle. Most Romanians make due with quite less

        1. Hmm, your housing costs must be substantially less than here in the states. My mortgage on my very-cheap-for-the-area house is more than $1650.

          Sure, I’m in an expensive area relative to the interior of the country, but even when I lived in Indiana and Texas, the cost for a 2 bedroom apartment was $700 or more.

          I’m always interested by the conversion factors used to compare two completely separate economies in articles like this. I get the sense that it doesn’t capture the whole picture.

          1. PieInTheSky

            Communist apartment blocks in not great areas are still reasonably priced. If you want a decent new house or apartment it would be pricey. Although I think that is Romania wide, Bucharest is probably pricier. But you can rent or buy for 500-600 a month and live off the 1K

        2. Not Adahn

          So I should be able to keep a sugar baby for $35/day?

    2. Evan from Evansville

      That seems incredibly low. I’m playing on starting work online and rotate around the world, and cost of living compared to standard of living is obviously key. Hence Chiang Mai. I can definitely see myself picking up shop and going someplace else after 6 months or so.

      Romania seems like another place that I could definitely make it work for a time. What would it cost (ish) for a solo person in a decent-but-not-crazy studio apartment in a fairly cool neighborhood be in Bucharest? How much for a decent meal out? How much for a beer?

      I could ask questions all day but I shant. Thanks if you can answer these questions. No worries if you’re busy.

      1. PieInTheSky

        400 500 rent… cheaper for communist apartment buildings.

        A decent meal is like 25 dollars. A beer varies a lot.

        I have a whole article on this fair blog about cost of living in Bucharest

        1. Evan from Evansville

          Found it! Thanks!

          We must have a very different idea of what “decent” means. In the States that means like $10-15. Christ. In Singapore a nice meal was only like $30. Granted a beer would be $17…..so that wasn’t a thing to do.

          Will read, but time to go out and explore the night.

          1. PieInTheSky

            I dont pay that much because i dont have 3 courses but was thinking standard starter main desert coffe drinks service

  55. Pat

    US shoots down a fake nuke using a ‘kill vehicle’ interceptor

    A US warship has shot down a ballistic missile in space as part of the latest test of the military’s advanced interceptor technology. And the entire feat was caught on video. The clip captures the moment sailors aboard the USS John Finn intercepted the medium-range ballistic missile target with a Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) Block IIA off the west coast of Hawaii.

    The SM-3 eviscerates its targets through the use of “sheer force,” rather than an explosive warhead, explains Live Science. Its manufacturer Raytheon describes the interceptor as a “kill vehicle” that rams into a ballistic missile with the force of a 10-ton truck traveling at 600 mph. Or like “shooting a bullet with another bullet” — emphasising the insane velocities involved in the feat.
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    The armament can be deployed both on land and at sea, where it is utilized as part of the Navy’s Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system. It’s designed to intercept short-and-medium-range ballistic missiles — like the ones Russia and North Korea are stockpiling — before the inbound threats re-enter the atmosphere.

    Neat.

    1. AlexinCT

      Meh, this is one in the multiple series of tests to create this capability, and part & parcel of the AEGIS Block 9 capability the NAVY has been rolling out for some 5 years now. The limitation is that the vessel with this capability has a limited store of these super expensive interceptor missiles and needs to be at a precise spot to catch the ballistic missile either during the boost phase or during its space flight phase. I am more of a fan of sharks with lasers.

      1. LJW

        I’d settle for Ill-tempered mutated seabass

  56. Count Potato

    “BREAKING: This morning Facebook banned our 30-second ad exposing pro-abortion @PhilBredesen in Tennessee and supporting #ProLife Marsha Blackburn for Senate.”

    https://twitter.com/SBAList/status/1057986489278185477

    1. MikeS

      They’ve banned at least two of their ads. I fail to see how either of them could be found offensive.

      1. Tundra

        ^^Nazi^^

      2. Count Potato

        The same way a gay jew married to a black guy is a nazi.

    2. Pat

      Meanwhile, ads like this are kosher.

      1. MikeS

        And she even tried to defend it.

        Remember, this is the same woman whose campaign “accidentally” identified (in some cases incorrectly) up to two dozen women as abuse victims in an ad trying to shame her opponent.

        1. MikeS

          *without their permission*

          Forgot that important part

  57. AlexinCT

    Word salad describing why old marxism is better than the new marxism….

  58. MikeS

    Just read a quote that I thought many here would appreciate:

    Success is like a fart, it only bothers people when it is not their own.

    1. Michael

      This would explain why successful people tend to immediately leave the room.

    2. AlexinCT

      I almost make this my MOTD at work, but figured that might be pushing things a little too far..

      1. Democratic Hitler

        Pretty solid.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Awesome.

    1. Don Lemon is Al Sharpton/Louis Farrakhan for the next generation.

      1. Pat

        He’s the white people of black people.

  59. Pat

    Death row inmate becomes first man killed by electric chair in Tennessee for more than a decade

    A convicted double murderer has been executed by electrocution in Tennessee – the first man in the state to be killed that way since 2007.

    The Supreme Court turned down the last minute appeals of Edmund Zagorski, 63, without comment. However, Justice Sonia Sotomayor dissented from that opinion, writing that she had concerns over the use of both the electric chair and lethal injection. Zagorski had refused the use of the injection.

    Asked if he had any last words in the death chamber, the inmate said “Let’s rock” shortly before the execution was carried out. Zagorski had asked for the electric chair over lethal injection believing it would be a quicker and less painful way to die.

    1. CPRM

      Chunky or creamy? Without knowing this I cannot form an opinion.

      1. After the dog was done with him, there were only chunks left

    2. Luther Baldwin

      “Biggie Smalls”

      *chortle*

    3. commodious spittoon

      A police source told The Times the man had “applied peanut butter, or another food spread

      Nutella?

      1. CPRM

        Cream cheese.

    4. commodious spittoon

      Can’t help but think of the part in White Fang with the indefatigable, jaw-locking bulldog…

    5. That’s horrifying.

    6. The Last American Hero

      Everywhere has a north, mother.

    1. MikeS

      That was really very, very cool. Thanks Q! I’m sharing that with a bunch of people.

    2. CPRM

      or they could just use a plastic bowling ball instead of a feather. But that wouldn’t waste as much money.

      1. MikeS

        Why are you anti-science?!?!?!?!!11???

    3. Tundra

      Very cool.

    4. The Other Kevin

      My favorite Mythbusters is the one where they prove that a bullet shot horizontally will hit the ground the same time as a bullet dropped from the same height. They were able to get one camera shot with both bullets hitting the ground. As I recall they all had that same look of joy and amazement on their faces as these guys.

      1. AlexinCT

        Gravity: it’s a bitch…

        1. AlexinCT

          Well, until you get into quantum mechanics…

      2. Brett L

        This Galileo guy was on to something! No, its seriously cool to SEE something that you’ve mathematically proved to yourself, but your animal brain says “yeah, right”

    5. whiz

      This was pretty cool, too. A lot more expensive, though.

  60. AlexinCT

    LIEZ! We all know there is no voter fraud…

    1. whiz

      Just this week, The Heritage Foundation has added 20 new cases to its online election-fraud database, which now documents 1,165 proven cases of election fraud spanning 47 states. Some 1,011 of these cases resulted in a criminal convictions.

      That database will come in handy next time someone goes on about there being no fraud.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    A US warship has shot down a ballistic missile in space as part of the latest test of the military’s advanced interceptor technology. And the entire feat was caught on video. The clip captures the moment sailors aboard the USS John Finn intercepted the medium-range ballistic missile target with a Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) Block IIA off the west coast of Hawaii.

    Fucking Trump, he has gone and upset the balance of power. Now the terrorists will be forced to design better, faster, more maneuverable ballistic missiles. He’s a madman.

  62. LJW

    The price tag for KCI terminal, once around $1 billion, is now approaching $2 billion

    “The airlines that use KCI, not taxpayers, pay for the terminal project. Are airlines getting worried about the new costs?”

    No they’ll recover that from the increase in ticket prices.

    They also forget to mention the ridiculous requirements the city council out on the builder. From another article:

    “The requirements to build the terminal include:

    Private financing for a 750,000 square foot terminal
    A 6,500-spot parking garage• 35 gates (expandable to 42 gates)

    A local workforce

    Prevailing wages for construction workers

    Assurance that the City’s MBE/WBE goals as well as workforce development or job training for local workers are met or exceeded

    1% of the cost dedicated to the arts Financing for the new terminal will be paid back from airport revenues, and the City will continue to own and operate the airport.”

    Child care and transportation for the worker

    1. CPRM

      Fuck sake, the airlines are willing to pay so you ransom them. I’m starting to get why the NFL doesn’t want to pay for their own stadiums.

    2. Luther Baldwin

      Chump change.

      PS. JFK is in on the action too for only $13B.

    3. wdalasio

      Crap like this is why I’m always skeptical about the “Ermigaaaaddd!!! We needs ta upgrade our infrastructures!!!” line. Every time, it’s accompanied by a million little caveats once someone agrees to pay.

      1. Luther Baldwin

        Because they are jobs programs to reward the cronies that help shore up your slush funds.

    4. Mojeaux

      Because NO ONE could have predicted over budget and longer timeline. NO ONE at all.

  63. Count Potato

    “Let’s be real: if Candace and Tomi weren’t hot, no one would listen to them.”

    https://twitter.com/BridgetPhetasy/status/1058064869851725824

    I never thought Tomi was hot — very fake looking.

    1. Chipwooder

      She has many of the qualities desired by the superficial man

      1. Not Adahn

        *unzips*

    2. The Last American Hero

      They wouldn’t listen to the political commentary of Hollywood celebrities either.

  64. The Late P Brooks

    SCIENCE!

    Sweet.

  65. straffinrun

    Police chief: officers shouldn’t have to log misogyny complaints

    Thornton later told reporters: “I’m not saying misogyny is not an issue. What I’m saying is recording it as a crime necessarily the best way to reduce that, to have a criminal justice solution to an issue which is about the way people behave and treat each other?

    1. Pat

      Have they received any misogyny complaints from the victims of the “Asian” rape gangs they covered up for a decade?

    2. Luther Baldwin

      Hon, you’re in a country that criminalizes wrong-think and “anti-social” behavior. Your pleas are too little, too late.

  66. Pat

    ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ Is an Insult to Freddie Mercury

    When you’re gay and you go to the movies, you’re supposed to settle and be grateful for what you get.

    A gay character reduced to stereotypes, used for tragedy porn, or relegated to set dressing with no backstory? Hey, at least he’s in the movie! A gay character is finally the lead of the film, but he’s played by a straight actor. That’s OK, at least the movie exists! There’s finally a movie with a beautiful, passionate love story, but the camera cuts away before the sex scene. Well, we should be happy to see the romance at all! There’s one sex scene, and it’s turned into the butt of a homophobic joke for the next 13 years. We have a sense of humor, too! Or the sex is finally realistic and erotic, but the movie is so small that no one sees it. No one but the gays themselves, that is—we always know where to find it!

    And so we’re supposed to settle again, this time with the sanitized, mean-spirited, gay-shaming, and altogether lame biopic of Freddie Mercury, the late frontman of Queen and arguably one of the most important gay icons in pop culture ever.

    I hate to say I told you so sloop, but remember a while back when I told you that the only reason Queen is fetishized amongst young people is because Freddie Mercury was gay?

    1. CPRM

      I don’t like straight sex scenes in mainstream movies either. If you want to see a sex scene, there is whole nother movie business that has that covered.

      1. The Other Kevin

        Sometimes I’ll see an old movie on AMC and marvel at the creative ways they insinuate a sex scene.

        1. CPRM

          +1 train entering a tunnel

          1. Chipwooder

            Grace Kelly…..yowza

          2. The Other Kevin

            Camille Paglia would agree.

          3. Drake

            Cary Grant ejaculating fireworks hundreds of feet into the air.

        2. The Other Kevin

          I was thinking about All Quiet on the Western Front, where they just show a shot of an empty room and you hear the “pillow talk” between characters in the next room.

      2. Drake

        70s / 80s R-rated comedies like Slap Shot and Animal House were more fun. Let the boobs free to bounce around for a couple of minutes, then move on the next joke.

    2. commodious spittoon

      As opposed to settling and being slightly irritated with what you get, which is why I don’t go to the movies anymore?

    3. Chipwooder

      No offense intended to Jesse, Rhywun, or any of our other gay Glib friends, but I really have less than zero interest in seeing realistic, erotic gay sex scenes.

      Unless it’s hot lipstick lesbian scenes, of course.

      1. Nephilium

        A group of us went and saw Wilde when it came out. We were all just annoyed that it spent so much time showing his sex life, while glossing over other aspects.

        1. CPRM

          Well you’re a homophobe if you don’t think the most important thing about Wilde was his love life.

      2. Brett L

        realistic, erotic gay sex scenes.

        hot lipstick lesbian scenes

        Pick one. I have met one couple in my life that qualify. Both solid 7s. Super nice women. Boringly normal except that they are a couple.

        1. Evan from Evansville

          I know ONE such couple. Just got married. Met them in Korea. One half-Korean but looks white except her eyes. Hot and very cool in a tomboyish way. The other is literally the most attractive woman I’ve ever had a conversation with. She was an L.A. 9.5. Literally supermodel hot.

          It was very difficult to actually speak to her and keep enough neurons concentrated on breathing. Cool girl. Good for them. I trust the sex is spectacular.

          1. Lesbian bed death.

    4. straffinrun

      That entire article is sooo Daily Beast. Just bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch and prove you’re more Robespierre than Robespierre.

    5. Luther Baldwin

      Enh, the bits of playing fast and loose with the facts IS pretty lame IMHO.

    6. Jesus just go watch gay porn if that’s what you’re into.

      I don’t go to mainstream movies expecting to see hot and heavy P in V action.

      1. Democratic Hitler

        Same reason I don’t go to mainstream movies!

    7. Mojeaux

      How about just going to see a movie about a tragic musical genius-ish?

  67. Juvenile Bluster

    Radley Balko may have one of the worst cases of TDS on record, but when it comes to the criminal justice beat and when it comes to criminal cops, he’s still got it.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/11/02/feature/if-you-dont-get-at-that-rot-you-just-get-more-officers-like-josh-hastings/?utm_term=.6c9ec3af04f9

    1. Florida Man

      You almost have to compartmentalize people now. With social media you can’t stay ignorant of people’s nonsense, so you have to focus on the good, while ignoring the dumb, otherwise you have to go full hermit.

      1. Watching people I previously respected succumb to severe TDS is disheartening. I try to think of it as a form of temporary insanity and, like you said, focus on the issues they’re still not completely retarded on.

        I’ve said it so many times I’ve lost count: there is a boatload of things to legitimately criticize Trump over. Screeching that he’s a racist, white supremacist Nazi who’s going to turn the US into the Fourth Reich only waters down any actual policy critiques you might have.

        1. wdalasio

          Honestly, the entire TDS issue makes me wish people weren’t social animals. Most of the people who hate Donald Trump hate Donald Trump because it’s fashionable to hate Donald Trump. It has nothing to do with policy. Or character (at least in the sense of moral character). Or principle. Donald Trump exudes the personality characteristics of a lower-middle-class version of a rich guy. And if there’s one group of people in America it’s been fashionable to shower with contempt for the last twenty years or so, it’s the lower middle class. Listen for just a few minutes to how the perennially hip describe Wal-Mart shoppers. It’ll tell you everything you need to know.

          1. tarran

            Remember MNG’s contempt for tractor pulls?

          2. Donald Trump exudes the personality characteristics of a lower-middle-class version of a rich guy. And if there’s one group of people in America it’s been fashionable to shower with contempt for the last twenty years or so, it’s the lower middle class.

            This this this.

            And people wonder why things seem to split into cosmos v. yokels so often.

          3. Democratic Hitler

            Well put.

  68. Pat

    Pastor Preaches From Pulpit Made With Bullet Proof Steel Plates and Place to Put His Gun

    DES MOINES, Iowa — At Fort Des Moines Church of Christ, Pastor Mike Demastus says the staff does everything they can to ensure the safety of their congregation.[…]

    Demastus says he’d rather the people who attend his church be safe than sorry, and that some of the steps the church has taken to improve security are simple.

    “We stopped advertising where our nursery is…” said Demastus. “…We just want that to be something we can escort people to, instead of advertising where that`s at, because they`re our most vulnerable; the children that are in our nursery.”

    Being security minded also means being prepared to stop the bleeding, in a worst case scenario. That means placing medical trauma bags throughout the church facility.

    There are also security cameras all over the place, and even the Pastor himself, is at the ready, right from the pulpit.

    “Right here, I have a spot where I can put my gun,” said Pastor Demastus. “It’s got a magnet, just literally sticks on there. In the front, we have bullet proof plates that literally, I can`t remember what the strength is of the plates, but they`re steel plates that are in the front of this thing, makes it really heavy. You know, if there was ever a thing, I can just duck down, you know, and be safe behind this thing.”

    1. kinnath

      My wife knows all the people at church that carry. They make sure to spread out amongst the congregation to ensure coverage of all the doors.

      1. Tundra

        My buddy is an usher at his church. There are always a couple of them armed at every service. At the request of the pastor, I might add.

    2. LJW

      Just need automated turrets that drop from the ceiling.

    3. Juvenile Bluster

      All those guns are going to come to life and turn that church into that scene from Kingsman.

      1. LJW

        Good point the turrets will be manned by orphans instead.

    4. Raston Bot

      “It’s got a magnet, just literally sticks on there. In the front, we have bullet proof plates that literally, I can`t remember what the strength is of the plates, but they`re steel plates that are in the front of this thing, makes it really heavy. You know, if there was ever a thing, I can just duck down, you know, and be safe behind this thing.”

      that’s a funny quote. is the pastor a Millennial?

    1. Pat

      Goddamn heeb wreckers undermining Obama’s glorious legacy. It’s no wonder we had to use state department resources to support Bibi’s electoral opponent. And by the way, Republicans are anti-Semites!

      1. LJW

        Remember, “Not all Republicans are racist, but all racists are Republicans”.

    1. straffinrun

      Good point. He also comes up in this interview. I fucking hate people that think they get to decide who is a comedian and who isn’t.

    2. LJW

      Exactly what ran through my head when I thought about what it would take create a competitor. You’d have to attract the less radical groups of both sides first.

    3. It’s true, though it’s inversely related to how ban-happy the main ones get. It’s a layup for Twitter to ban actual Nazis who then go to an alternative platform; but when they start banning mainstream conservatives/libertarians (which they are increasingly doing) it shifts the narrative.

    4. Drake

      Matthew Bracken was trying to promote an alternative social media site that would edit and ban the anti-semites while otherwise allowing free-speech. I can’t remember what it’s called and his posts were on GAB.

    5. Michael

      He kind of misses the bigger issue. An alternative network needs a killer feature to stand out from what it’s aiming to supplant. I’ve never visited Gab, but from all accounts I’ve read I can confidently assume it was nothing more than a half-assed clone of Twitter in its functionality. Since there was nothing substantial to draw users in, they beat the “free speech” drum as hard as they could and got the inevitable result – a user base comprised entirely of people that were banned from or felt slighted by Twitter, and all for the same reason. No one else came along for the ride, because why would they? A commitment to the principles of free speech isn’t a feature; it’s a service agreement. Something like that is what you’d build an organization’s core culture around, but it isn’t something that you necessarily advertise. To draw users in you need the killer feature first.

      1. Drake

        You are correct. There were a couple of people like Bracken I followed on GAB who were banned or soon-to-be-banned on Twitter.

  69. Juvenile Bluster

    Today is Love Your Lawyer day.

    I demand that all of you send me gifts in honor of this important day.

    1. Sean

      Sure thing. https://dicksbymail.com/
      Address?

      1. Nephilium

        I was going with something a little classier.

        1. tarran

          Well, that’s the gift for the Company’s Holiday Yankee Swap sorted! 😀

    2. Tundra

      I guess it’s only fair to fuck ’em back.

    3. *sends JB my law school student loan bill*

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Dammit, I was hoping to get someone to pay off mine.

    4. Chipwooder

      But you’re not MY lawyer

    5. Just Say’n

      Well now that I know you’re a lawyer, I kind of hate you

    1. Luther Baldwin

      Shut up, Ed. Your centrist pleas are harshing my election-day buzz.

    2. tarran

      I love how he assures his audience that he believes the utterly implausible changing tale spun Christine Ford and the even more implausible tale of Deborah Ramirez.

      I’ll bet that given three years and a budget of ten million dollars, I could get that credulous asshole to endorse putting jews in concentration camps.

    3. In what universe is Michael “BAN EVERYTHING” Bloomberg center-left?

    4. commodious spittoon

      Web designers, beware: your pop-out videos are effing annoying.

      “Here’s a block of text. Here’s a video you scroll past to get to it. Here’s the video you scrolled past, now in the sidebar, playing automatically while you try to read.” Did nobody stop and think, “Wait, this is stupid. People either want to watch or to read, but not both at once”? Nobody thought of that before this obnoxious feature was added to every effing news and commentary site?

      1. cyto

        Amen brother!

        I hate, hate, hate that “feature”.

        And worse, many sites get it wrong, so the video popover covers the text you are trying to read. Or they put another “subscribe” popover directly opposite so the entire bottom 1/3 of the text is obscured….. so they have menus that stick for the top 1/3, video and solicitation for the bottom 1/3 and you get to try to read in 4 or 5 lines in the middle of that mess.

      2. Democratic Hitler

        Exactly why I only consume low-budget web sites cobbled together by political outcasts.

    5. Just Say’n

      He’s on the wrong side of history or some other Hegelian clap trap nonsense

  70. Juvenile Bluster

    Consider the source, but this is one of the funnier reactions to the whole Jacob Wohl/Mueller thing.

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-wiles-the-laughable-right-wing-effort-to-take-down-muller-is-really-an-israeli-intelligence-operation-to-protect-trump/

    Rick Wiles: The Laughable Right-Wing Effort to Take Down Mueller Is Really an Israeli Intelligence Operation to Protect Trump

    On his “TruNews” program last night, End Times broadcaster Rick Wiles floated a truly bizarre theory that the laughable right-wing effort to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller by accusing him of sexual assault is actually an Israeli intelligence operation designed to protect President Trump.

    As Jared reported yesterday, disreputable right-wing operatives Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman held an absurd press conference in which they alleged that Mueller had sexually assaulted a woman in 2010 and claimed that the allegations had been vetted and verified by a private investigation firm called Surefire Intelligence.

    The only problem is that Surefire Intelligence doesn’t seem to actually exist, as all of the biographies of the supposed staff members listed on the website were fake and the phone number listed for the company went to Wohl’s mother’s voicemail. Among the fake photos used for the non-existent staff was one of Israeli supermodel Bar Refaeli, which has convinced Wiles that this effort to discredit Mueller is being carried out by the Israelis.

    Wiles, a vehement critic of all things Jewish who regularly warns that President Trump is being manipulated by his Jewish daughter and son-in-law and the Zionists in the evangelical community to blindly do bidding of Israel, suspects that Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election may have found something damaging to Trump, which has prompted Israel to launch this effort to discredit the special counsel on behalf of its most important ally.

    “This story has a Jewish connection to it,” Wiles said, citing an article from The Jerusalem Post about Surefire’s use of Refaeli’s photo. “Noting is done in Israel with intelligence without the government’s approval … Is Benjamin Netanyahu secretly working to protect Donald Trump?”

    Wiles said that while he loves Trump, his one criticism is that he “is the most pro-Zionist president in the history of America … and Israel has never had a president this friendly, ever.”

    “Israel needs Donald Trump in the White House,” Wiles said, which is why he suspects that Surefire Intelligence is a straw company set up by Israeli intelligence to carry out this operation against Mueller in order to protect Trump and “the Jewish mafia” that surrounds him.

    1. KUNSPEERUHSEES EVRWHER!

    2. Just Say’n

      Christ, they went straight for the “it was the Jews, I tell you”. But, you see, it’s not anti-Semitic, because they also hate Evangelicals who like Jews. Diversity of hate

    3. Rebel Scum

      Israeli Intelligence Operation

      So your saying that ‘rightwingwatch’ is not too fond of (((them))).

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      Note to a few above:

      RWW did not say this stuff. This was known whackadoodle Rick Wiles. You may remember him from earlier this summer, when he said that “We’re 72 hours from a coup,”, “Trump and his family will be executed on the front lawn of the White House”, and such.

    5. fried

      Among the fake photos used for the non-existent staff was one of Israeli supermodel Bar Refaeli, which has convinced Wiles that this effort to discredit Mueller is being carried out by the Israelis.

      I love these sorts of theories that make the Jews out to be equal parts nefarious and inept. We had some brilliant plan to manipulate the POTUS but allowed ourselves to be discovered by using a stock photo of an Israeli model/actress? Wut?

    1. AlmightyJB

      I was planning on going to the range tomorrow at a nice state park that should be lovely right now. Unfortunately I jacked my back up so that’s not going to happen:(

    1. Raston Bot

      my 5-year old could also apply enough pressure to my carotids to block oxygen flow to my brain if i allow it like this bouncer did.

  71. This is why people like Peterson.

    https://youtu.be/yZYQpge1W5s?t=260

    Feel free to watch the whole thing, but I’m linking this for his savage destruction of “MUH PATRIARCHY” NPC talking point.

    1. slumbrew

      I admire his even keel. He’s always so patient when faced with nonsense.

      Also, that’s a great suit.

    2. Tundra

      I’m finally reading his book. I hear that awesome Canuck accent while I’m reading.

      Pasty bint thinks she’s holding her own. Sad!

      1. Tundra

        “That’s your theory?”

        “Well, yeah…”

        “It’s foolish theory.”

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I like how he addresses the “step aside and make room for women” argument. He’s stating that it does nobody any good if the best and brightest feel compelled to do nothing, the burden is on women to step up, not for men to step down. Let merit determine who is most fit and if there are disparities, it’s only an indicator of revealed preferences and/or capabilities.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Shorter version, he’s skewering disparate impact theory.

  72. The Late P Brooks

    Assuming there’s still some life in this post, have some totally evenhanded anddispassionte discourse about the kkkultur wars
    TW: Politico

    Policy skirmishes tend to metastasize into cultural battles when they involve identity issues, and after spending time on the campaign trail recently, I got the sense the next big Republican culture war will be a war on college. For generations, the notion of higher education as a ladder of opportunity for everyone has been an anodyne nonpartisan talking point, even if Democrats and Republicans disagreed on the appropriate levels of federal funding and regulation. But Republican attitudes are changing. In Ohio, I heard them talk about taxpayer-funded school bureaucrats who trick kids into believing that expensive and often useless liberal-indoctrination universities are the only way to get ahead in life; siphoning students away from vocational programs that could prepare them for well-paying jobs.

    It’s probably not a coincidence that this shift is happening at a time when college-educated voters are trending Democratic and noncollege whites have been Trump’s most reliable constituency. Policies that hurt colleges, like policies that hurt cities, are policies that hurt Democrats. To listen to pols talk about college these days is to watch a wedge issue in its embryonic stage, as substantive questions about the cost and relevance of higher ed, the burdens of student debt, the adequacy of worker training and the power of political correctness on campus start to morph into red-meat attacks on pointy-headed elitists who look down on ironworkers and brainwash America’s youth. Republicans are starting to fit the Democratic push for universal free college into their larger critique of the Democratic urge to hand out free stuff to Democratic voters. And they’re portraying a liberal arts education as a culturally liberal thing, like kale or Kwanzaa or reusable shopping bags.

    To be sure, Democrats and their progressive allies exhibit some signs of intransigence, but… come on, those hicks and rubes from flyover Nowheresville are just a bunch of frothing obsessive compulsive lunatics.

    1. In Ohio, I heard them talk about taxpayer-funded school bureaucrats who trick kids into believing that expensive and often useless liberal-indoctrination universities are the only way to get ahead in life; siphoning students away from vocational programs that could prepare them for well-paying jobs.

      Despite the condescending tone, I basically believe this. There are plenty of examples of exactly this. Kids being pushed into a degree that they don’t need and that they’re not ready for under the guise of it being “the next step to being successful”

      I’ll add that I’m not saving money in a 529 for my daughter. It’s going into a standard brokerage account and will be available to be used for school, starting a business, a wedding, or anything else that she wants to do with her life after careful consideration of the options and under certain conditions that exist to ensure she has the highest likelihood to succeed.

  73. hayeksplosives

    I like my coffee like I like my women: cold, black and bitter.

    And preferably free trade?

  74. cyto

    I’ve been meaning to tell you guys about this weird thing that happened, but I’ve been late to every thread this week…

    Earlier in the week I was at the early polling location. Lots of folks were out to vote. It was a really nice day. (I happened to be there for other reasons…. my daughter’s dance class…. but I took a minute to say hi to the local politicians outside).

    Anyway… the crowd was a little off. Like, almost exclusively white. Which is really odd for a location that is at the edge of a fairly large black area. That’s not the weird thing though.

    Weird happened while I was walking in. Some dudes in a really nice, expensive pickup drove by, two of them standing in the bed of the truck, yelling at the crowd. “F**k Trump! F**k white people!” Two big black dudes.. or maybe one was hispanic, hard to say… just yelling racist stuff at the crowd at the polling place. They came by three times while I was there. Once on the way in, and twice on the way out as I was chatting with the (hopefully) soon to be new mayor.

    I had a hard time making sense of it. First, we generally just don’t do that sort of thing ’round these parts. Second, that’s not really a way to win over folks to your side…..

    So then my glibertarians mindset kicked in….. and I thought, “false flag?”

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Occam’s Razor: They’re a bunch of assholes and one of them owns a nice pickup.

    2. whiz

      Sounds like electioneering too close to the polls.

      I agree with Stinky on the likely reason — there are a lot of dumb people.

      1. slumbrew

        Hanlon’s Razor applies, as ever

  75. cyto

    from TOS comments section, This is a sweet tweet.