Tuesday Morning Links

Continuing the process…forever.

The New England Patriots rode a series of big plays (and generous calls) to an easy victory in Buffalo.  The Red Sox made it home with the trophy. Man City beat Spurs on a horrendous field (thanks to the NFL playing the day before and Spurs inability to schedule construction projects). The NBA continued playing games. On the ice, Calgary skated past Toronto while the MINNESOOOOOODA WIIIIIIIIILD were getting drilled by the Canucks. Oh yeah, Terry Francona is probably looking over his shoulder as the second head coach of a Cleveland sports team got the axe yesterday.

If you were born on this day, you share it with Italian explorer Christopher Columbus. And so do the following people: President and patriot John Adams, neurologist **FUCK, SHIT** Georges de la **FUCK, SHIT** Tourette, poet Ezra Pound, admiral Bull Halsey, bodybuilder Charles Atlas, pitcher Bob Feller, singer Grace Slick, actor Henry Winkler, musician Chris Slade, actor Harry Hamlin, soccer legend and cocaine aficionado Diego Maradona, and businesswoman and diplomat Ivanka Trump.

…back when the heavyweight division mattered

Its also the day on which the following occurred: Vasco da Gama returned to Calcutta, Charles I gave the Bahamas to Sir Robert Heath, Jesse James and his gang robbed a bank for $2000, Helena, Montana was founded, the first black man (Republican) was elected to Congress in 1868 although he was never seated, Mussolini formed a government in Italy, a panic is caused when Orson Welles did his “War Of The Worlds” radio broadcast, Abbott and Costello made their big screen debut with “One Night In The Tropics”, the shot clock made its debut in the NBA, Sputnik II carries a dog into space, Ali defeated Foreman in the Rumble In The Jungle, Ayrton Senna won his first F1 drivers title, and Disney bought Lucasfilm (and proceeded to fuck up a gold mine).

There we go. Now on to…the links

Sorry, folks. Once you refuse asylum, you’re no longer asylum-seekers.

This one is breaking as I write the links up, so its probably thin on details. But it looks as if Trump will try to put an end to birthright citizenship for those people born to illegal immigrants and tourists. This one is sure to stir up some excitement in the news today.

Migrant Caravan 2: Electric Boogaloo. Looks like Mexico tried to keep these people out but they managed to break through.

Well, Well, you sure don’t see scorching hot takes like this every day. I congratulate her.  A few days ago, she was an absolute nobody. Now she’s getting gigs on CNN. Pretty soon thousands of people will know who she is.

I, for one, am positive a Republican leader would get the same treatment as Hillary Clinton for saying that all black people look alike. Yep, they’d get rousing applause from the entire audience and a pass from the media.

Who couldn’t trust a face like that?!

Well this just feels like the biggest waste of time and money I could imagine. I mean, just because you shove a tube in your hoo-ha for a week doesn’t mean you had anything to do with the development or genetic makeup of the child.  The courier who carries a box from LA to NY over a week doesn’t own what’s inside.  But to each their own. As long as my tax dollars weren’t involved I don’t give much of a shit.

The Chicago City Council sure don’t want to give oversight to the people. I mean, that might cut off the political donations from the FOP. I’d imagine excessive force settlements will still come from taxpayers rather than the council’s operating budget though. Because the citizens are good enough to pay for the malevolence even if they’re not entitled to oversee punishment for it.

Damn, that does not sound like a pleasant way to go. But still, she was there voluntarily. Its a tragedy, but why sue someone for organizing an event your kid voluntarily went to knowing the risks involved?

I know if I was a kid at that school, I’d be carrying metal in my pants every day in order to get a pat down.

Song Number 1.  The second song.  And the (unsurprising) finale.

Go have a great day, friends.

Comments

536 responses to “Tuesday Morning Links”

  1. This one is breaking as I write the links up, so its probably thin on details. But it looks as if Trump will try to put an end to birthright citizenship for those people born to illegal immigrants and tourists. This one is sure to stir up some excitement in the news today.

    Good. While I doubt it will be the standard taken, I still maintain that to be a citizen at birth should require at least one citizen parent. If you don’t have that, you have to be naturalized later.

    1. It’s a last-second get out the vote ploy; if he does sign an order left-leaning Imperial judges will be lined up to put a stay on it, and it will have to be fought out in the courts.

      Never let it be said that Trump can’t roshambo with the best of ’em, though.

      1. AlexinCT

        I would love to see this one in the courts, but I am not sure Trump can change constitutional precedent by executive fiat.

        1. There is no precedent regarding tourists or illegals, only legal permanant residents and citizens living abroad. There simply have not been cases raised.

    2. straffinrun

      Give us your weak, huddle masses yearning to be free. *And whatever falls out of your uterus as you’re touring Yosemite.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        One of my favorite Wiggum moments.

        Makes me so sad. When the show was good there truly was nothing like it. RIP.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s a federal statute, an executive order is meaningless and will certainly fail in the courts.

      The question is whether Congress can revoke the statute and end it or the 14th Amendment actually guarantees it regardless.

      1. What’s disgusting is that Trump is going to make us the laughingstock of the world with this kind of racism that will align our immigration policies with those of every single country in Europe since 2004.

        A laughingstock, I tells ya!

      2. The 14th does not require it. To that, the existing rulings on the matter agree.

        1. Count Potato

          It sounds like it does:

          “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

          1. They are not residents.

          2. cyto

            Born in the United States is pretty clear. It doesn’t say “residents” children become citizens. It says if you are born in the US you are a citizen of the state in which you reside. The language is pretty clear and simple.

            The “subject to the jurisdiction” bit is about diplomats who have immunity and are not subject to the jurisdiction.

            On could perhaps craft an argument about people “just passing through”, but I don’t think it would fly very far, seeing as we in fact do subject people “just passing through” to our jurisdiction all the time.

            Hell, you might have a better argument that anyone in the world can claim US citizenship based on that text, since we seem to think our laws apply to foreign nationals doing business in foreign countries…. see Kim dotcom, et. al.

          3. The “subject to the jurisdiction” bit is about diplomats who have immunity and are not subject to the jurisdiction.

            That seems like a really stupid carve out to put into a constitutional amendment. Especially considering that the constitution itself has a more direct phrase for addressing such diplomats (“Ambassadors and other public Ministers” – Art II, Sec 3)

          4. cyto

            It is almost as if the thing was written by a committee over a long period of time….

            And a couple of times it looks like they let a retarded monkey into the room.

            Still, overall not a bad first run at a constitutionally limited republic.

          5. WTF

            The part about “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” speaks to their legal status, so it is not necessarily clear that a child born to illegal aliens would be granted automatic citizenship.

          6. More specifially they are subject to the jurisdiction of their home countries.

          7. Juvenile Bluster

            They are also subject to the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States.

            I wouldn’t object to ending birthright citizenship and requiring one citizen (or lawful permanent resident) parent, but it would take a Constitutional Amendment to do so.

          8. The “Subject to the laws of” and “Subject to the Jurisdiction of” are two separate categories.

            Not even the people who Wrote it saw it as requiring such an absurdity.

            The record of the debate in 1866 is illuminating. When Senator Lyman Trumbull (D-IL), Chairman of the Judiciary Committee (and a key figure in the drafting and adoption of the 14th Amendment) was asked what the phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” meant, he responded: “That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof’? Not owing allegiance to anyone else. That is what it means.” (Emphasis added.) Only U.S. citizens owe “complete allegiance” to the United States. Everyone present in the United States is subject to its laws (and hence its “jurisdiction” in a general sense), but only citizens can be drafted into the armed forces of the United States, or prosecuted for treason if they take up arms against it.

            Senator Howard agreed with Trumbull’s explanation, saying:

            I concur entirely with the honorable Senator from Illinois [Trumbull], in holding that the word “jurisdiction,” as here employed, ought to be construed so as to imply a full and complete jurisdiction on the part of the United States, . . . ; that is to say, the same jurisdiction in extent and quality as applies to every citizen of the United States now.

            This exchange supports very strongly the conclusion that the Citizenship Clause was intended to mean the same as the Civil Rights Act of 1866—excluding children born in the United States to foreign nationals (that is, to resident aliens).

          9. There’s also a Legal Insurrection link I might not screw up.

          10. WTF

            If it was that simple, then it wouldn’t say “All persons born…in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States” it would just say ” All persons born … in the United States are citizens of the United States”.

          11. kbolino

            Trumbull’s argument seems circular to me (they’re citizens because… they’re citizens). However, parsing it a bit, it would still work in practice because most countries confer citizenship by blood (you’re French because you’re born to French parents, etc.). The U.S. generally confers citizenship by soil (you’re American because you were born in America), and so does Mexico, but both countries allow for citizenship by blood at birth under certain conditions (the U.S. generally requires the parents to notify an embassy or consulate, I’m not sure whether Mexican law requires the same). So, a child born to two non-Americans in the U.S. will generally not be subject to the complete jurisdiction of the United States, as a consequence of foreign rather than U.S. laws, but that might also be true of a child born to one American and one foreign parent, again as a consequence of foreign laws.

            It’s not really that clear cut.

          12. Brett L

            What about in locales that have “no deportation on arrest”?

          13. Those locales are themselves in violation of the law.

          14. Count Potato

            Putting aside babies aren’t held legally responsible for their actions, how would be subject to the jurisdiction of their patents’ country? If I go to France, I have to follow French law. If a Frenchmen comes here, he has to follow American law.

          15. I point you to the statements by the authors of the amendment.

          16. Count Potato

            So who his saying when the kid grows up he couldn’t be drafted or would immune to being prosecuted for treason?

          17. Brett L

            Let’s say you were born in a military hospital while your family was stationed at the Panamanian Embassy, your parents would be subject to the jurisdiction of the US and you would therefore be a citizen, even though you weren’t born on US soil.

      3. Old Man With Candy

        There’s a large gap between an extemporaneous TV interview answer (that’s a nice way of saying it) and an executive order.

      4. Pope Jimbo

        When Obama was writing EO after EO for the Dreamers and other immigrants, I was told by the cosmos that Congress had written our immigration laws in a way that gave the President a lot of power to enact policies via EO.

        I never bothered to look it up to see if it was true. And I’m sure that there will be no consistency applied either. Obama EO = good and cannot ever be countermanded. Trump EO = bad and he should be impeached for even trying.

        1. The Last American Hero

          The not so funny part is that all of the screeching and shrieking on both sides will be about the policy, and not whether or not a President ought to have that kind of power.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            ^THIS^

    4. Old Man With Candy

      Verbal brain lint has exactly the legal weight of Twitter brain lint.

    5. Tonio

      I’m okay to granting citizenship to children born here to citizenship-tracked legal immigrants while in this country. Those on tourist and student visas not so much.

      The current system incentivizes wannabe immigrant women to attempt late-term or in-labor border crossings. All the ingredients for the perfect storm of a new “humanitarian crisis” which can be gleefully exploited.

      1. AlexinCT

        ^^^THIS^^^

        And if this finally makes it to court, I suspect the court might agree with this interpretation as well.

        1. SCOTUS already ruled on legal permanant residents, so they won’t address that category in more than a footnote. I can’t predict how they’ll rule with the rest.

      2. cyto

        I think this would be reasonable. Do you get dual citizenship if you are born in Tokyo while mom was on vacation at Disney Tokyo? Somehow I doubt it.

        Also, illegal aliens present a quandary. You really shouldn’t be able to just skirt the law like that, but we seem to not only allow it, but encourage it. Any time something approaches 10% of the population, it isn’t an anomaly. We seem to be all worried about transgender bathrooms when that’s way less than one tenth of one percent of the population, but with illegal immigrants and their kids (particularly if you include amnesty 1 and amnesty 2) 10, maybe even closer to 20% of the population, you’d think we’d treat it a little more seriously.

        I don’t get any of our policies on this. Clearly we want the labor. Clearly the need is there for more Legal immigration… but we don’t raise the limits on legal immigration and we don’t enforce illegal immigration laws..

        And yet it is still a pain in the ass every time you take a job and have to produce 2 forms of ID from column one and….

        You’d think we would have solved this by now…… but as Bush Jr. clearly demonstrated by pushing immigration reform, neither party wants the problem solved.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          I don’t get any of our policies on this. Clearly we want the labor. Clearly the need is there for more Legal immigration… but we don’t raise the limits on legal immigration and we don’t enforce illegal immigration laws..

          Almost makes you think the current situation is by design.

    6. Juvenile Bluster

      Another view on the definition of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

      Justin Amash
      ‏Verified account @justinamash
      US House candidate, MI-3

      A president cannot amend Constitution or laws via executive order. Concept of natural-born citizen in #14thAmendment derives from natural-born subject in Britain. Phrase “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” excludes mainly foreign diplomats, who are not subject to U.S. laws.

      1. I’ll take the word of the guys who wrote it about what they meant over anyone today.

        1. cyto

          You mean like when Obama said “you can keep your doctor” or “your premium will go down”?

          1. More like “Americans are idiots and need to be tricked into it.”

        2. Juvenile Bluster

          Legislative history is a really messy thing. When you start to glean the meanings of words from the opinions of a couple of people who wrote a law you get into “living constitution” territory.

          1. cyto

            Can we just go with the “whatever Cyto thinks” method of interpretation? I promise, you guys will mostly be happy with the result….

            Although I suspect a fair amount of chaos would ensue….. I don’t think very many laws or functions of our government would survive the Cyto constitutional filter.

  2. Private Chipperbot

    Man, that Chron website was doing all it could to kill AdBlocker.

    And, yeah. Pat downs all around.

    1. R C Dean

      Oh, there would be metal in my pants, no question.

      1. pan fried wylie

        I want bones, like iron
        Blood like Mer-er-cury,
        So I can tell you when I’m rising,
        And when I’m sinkin in (sinkin iii-in)

    2. Brett L

      The Houston Chronicle has some feature every single day with hot women. Its like they want eyes on their web page.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Pass. She is a K-9 officer and you know her crotch smells like peanut butter 24/7.

      1. Not Adahn

        But… I like peanut butter.

    4. Rasilio

      I was just going to comment the same thing, it is by far the worst major city news site I have seen, it just won’t load on my browser

  3. Rebel Scum

    This one is sure to stir up some excitement in the news today.

    Well they need something to be outraged about on the daily. I heard he was going to this via exec order. Is that legal based on some existing legislation or something?

    1. Private Chipperbot

      Sure, pen and phone…

  4. >>Hillary Clinton for saying that all black people look alike.

    I was surprised when Hillary didn’t pick a black VP running mate. I guess it would have been too confusing for her.

    1. straffinrun

      She didn’t want any of that glorious limelight stolen from “First Vagina!”

      1. For the life of me I couldn’t remember her VP pick. I had to look it up. Tim Kaine… er yeah.

        1. Despite my not wanting to hear about Hillary, a recent headline carried her comment regarding 2020 “I’d like to be President.” And it got me thinking.

          The real root of the problem with her candidacy has always been the fact that it centers around her. Think about it. “They’re with her”, her interest in the office, it’s her turn, etc. Nowhere was it about the country or the electorate. So even without the excerable character of the candidate, the campaign comes off as selfish and quite neglectful of the actual responsibilities of the office.

          1. straffinrun

            And despite that, she still almost won. Scary stuff.

          2. AlexinCT

            We dodged a bullet. I tell you, I wonder if there is a higher power watching over this country when it managed to dodge both a ManBearPig and a Shrillary presidency.

          3. Michael

            It sounds like getting a D-list celebrity’s plus-one to some shitty dance club. Who wouldn’t want that?

          4. kbolino

            Clinton promised herself and all that she represents.

            Trump promised to listen and deliver results.

        2. The Last American Hero

          Now name Romney’s.

          1. It took a bit but (pinky swear) Paul Ryan came up from the mists. Another bad choice.

      2. Luther Baldwin

        Same reason she didn’t pick a female.

  5. straffinrun

    “ISIS had like 10,000 members. I think the president has far more supporters who espouse an equally hateful ideology,” Ioffe retorted.

    Charlie Hebdo cover with a MAGA hat with a fuse.

    1. “I think”

      Citation needed.

    2. >>an equally hateful ideology

      which is?

      1. straffinrun

        Pick ups?

        1. pan fried wylie

          More specifically, Truck Nutz, but yes.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      This was the statement I thought was even more egregious than the one about Trump radicalizing people. Yeah, the Trumpistas are totes driving around throwing gays off roof tops, or putting other apostates into cages and burning them to death. And don’t get me started about all the sex slaves they’ve been kidnapping from big urban centers.

      1. AlexinCT

        You don’t have to actually debate ideas with people you can label as simply evil, and the left – now that it thinks it has won the culture wars and indoctrinated or imported enough people that believe the envy/jealousy of what others have shit they peddle – no longer wants any kind of debate. Accept what they want as gospel, or be punished for being a heretic.

        1. cyto

          It is equally hateful. Don’t you understand English? So just shut up.

          In fact, why don’t we pull your ISP account and bank account, since you are so hateful.

          We don’t tolerate hate.

  6. Rebel Scum

    The second migrant caravan, believed to be armed with bombs and guns, crossed into Mexico on Monday despite a huge police presence.

    “Refugees.”

    1. Rebel Scum

      And I seriously don’t get how leftists think the optics of this are in their favor.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        They think Trump will drop a few loads of napalm on them and then they will be able to make hay with the pictures of charred women and children.

        I think it is only slightly hyperbolic to say that they hope that Trump does kill a bunch of them. What are a few burnt up brown bodies when compared to taking back the House of Representatives?

        1. Nephilium

          Nope. I played that game.

          For those who don’t think games can be art, this game is a strong counterpoint to it. But it’s dark. Really dark.

          1. Raphael

            That game was really really good. Definitely one of the best 3rd person shooters I ever played. 10/10 would feel shitty about myself and warfare itself again.

          2. Nephilium

            For those who don’t want to play the game, here’s a spoiler filled write up of it.

            To this day I have no idea how this game got proposed, made, and released. It looks like a third person dudebro military shooter, when it is really a dark satire of the people who generally play those games, and forces you to do some terrible shit (with the other option being to stop playing).

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            I found it pretentious, to be honest.

            I mean, if I wanted to read Heart of Darkness, I’d watch Apocalypse Now.

          4. AlexinCT

            Who doesn’t like the smell of napalm in the morning? Especially since it sticks to kids…

    2. Drake

      The Caravan Marchers bus riders are coming.

  7. These girls’ cups runneth over on Titty Tuesday.

    http://archive.is/Zz5dx

    13, 16, 18, 26, 29, 33, 38, 41, 49, 54.

    45 and 47 tie for Best in Show.

    1. prolefeed

      Meh. If I want to see boobs, and topless at that, I’ll just go to oh, any porn site ever.

      Here, for example is 6 million such boobs:

      https://www.porzo.com/category/big-tits?orientation=straight

  8. How The NRA Stokes Conspiratorial Anti-Semitism
    The nation’s leading gun rights group regularly traffics in the sort of inflammatory rhetoric that has boiled over into violence in the past week.

    During a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February, National Rifle Association CEO Wayne LaPierre issued a dire warning about a “political disease” sweeping the U.S. with the support of billionaires like George Soros, Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer.

    LaPierre’s address, issued a week after the mass shooting at a high school in Parkland, Florida, was focused largely on perceived threats to gun rights. But the three Jewish-born individuals he singled out as working to undermine the American way of life have become reliable bogeymen not just for the NRA but for other factions among the far-right.

    Over the past week, we’ve seen what happens when these anti-Semitic overtures boil over into real-world violence. On Friday, a Florida man was arrested for allegedly sending pipe bombs to a number of Democratic lawmakers and activists, including Soros and Steyer. The suspect, Cesar Sayoc, had shared a number of conspiracy theories about Soros, including a meme branding the liberal mega-donor as “Judeo-plutocratic Bolshevik Zionist world conspirator.” Another tweet claimed Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg was actually an actor paid by Soros.

    1. Lachowsky

      The NRA is truly a far right organization.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      There are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate those three: Bloomberg, Steyer, and Soros are all terrible people and authoritarians. They’re going to dilute the meaning of antisemitism down to nothing.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Barbra Streisand feels horribly left out.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          If it makes her feel any better, I don’t care for her either even though she was OK in Yentl.

          1. spqr2008

            I cannot stand her voice, because a high school classmate of mine has a very similar singing voice, with a less nassally quality, and couldn’t make it in Show Business because she, “Sounds too much like Streisand.”

      2. Rebel Scum

        Disagree with Obama’s policies = racist

        Disagree with Soros’s political agenda = anti-semite

        1. I thought Soros’ faith was progressivism.

          1. AlexinCT

            It is. And the radical “send non believers to camp” kind of progressivism.

      3. It’s frustrating that “Jewish-born” wouldn’t enter my mind upon reading those names, and it’s the proggies who put that bigotry stuff out there because that’s how *they* think. It’s good to see Hillary slip with her “They all look alike.” I just hope more and more people begin to realize who the real bigots are. The projection is so obvious.

        1. cyto

          Just shut up with all the hate and order your officially approved 12 ounce diet soda.

          Nobody has reason to criticize these fine overlords men.

  9. Lachowsky

    A City Council Committee on Monday shot down the most extreme of four pending proposals for civilian police review after one aldermen claimed the proposal was drafted to appease people who are “hateful of the police.”

    Yeah. That’s kind of the point, asshole.

    1. Whose gonna fund the alferman’s campaign with indulgences legit contributions if the shitmunchers get direct oversight?

  10. Rebel Scum

    They all look alike.

    It’s a step up from calling them “super-predators”.

  11. Raston Bot

    Quick thought (bc work):

    Listened to the latest Get Off My Lawn episode. Gavin was writing off Gab for not censoring antisemites and other ilk.

    Does anyone think Gab is over?

    My view is this will drive millions to sign up.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’m going to make a point of signing up but I’ll never use the it because I hate Gab and all Twitterlike services.

    2. Millions? Who’s even heard of the incident other than those who were already aware of the service?

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      He was pro censorship or he was just making an observation? If it was the former he’s got a serious problem understanding what’s really the issue here.

      1. Raston Bot

        Gavin was siding with censorship. he said part of the reason his name is associated with “alt-right” is because he didn’t censor the white power comments on a website he started. it was a hold-the-phone moment for me.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          That’s unfortunate, I think much less of him and his intellect now.

    4. Count Potato

      I don’t think sites should censor rascists, anti-semites, etc. for three reasons:

      1. It will not be applied fairly.

      2. It’s a very slippery slope.

      3. I’d rather have whoever has such views out in the open.

      1. Tonio

        CP, you shitlord – hate speech is literal violence against oppressed people. That’s what all this hate speech thing is really about: redefining speech as violence, elevating hurt feelings to the same level as physical injury, etc. Leftists only win by redefining things.

        1. Nephilium

          Can we start just redefining winning as coming in last place? That way maybe they’ll be happy that they keep winning?

          1. Tonio

            Winning has already been redefined as oppression and exploitation.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Sticks and stones may break my bones
          but words will never hurt me if the government uses those sticks and stones to permanently silence the wrong thinkers.

      2. Totally agree. Censoring speech doesn’t stop the ideas, it just keeps them from being exposed to argument.

        1. Count Potato

          Yes, these people act like the KKK didn’t exist before Facebook.

  12. Scruffy Nerfherder

    The real news yesterday was the stock market. 900 point swings on the Dow Jones? Methinks the excitement is far from over. A 20% decline from the tops would not be out of the question.

    1. Lachowsky

      If one believes in Austrian business cycle theory, as I do, we are over due for a hard correction that will be extremely painful.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The corporate debt loads are astronomical. Deflation is coming.

      2. The Last American Hero

        By about 3 years. That’s the part that’s been trying my longheld beliefs in the business cycle.

        1. The tepid recovery from ’08 is messing with the timing.

    2. AlexinCT

      Keep a watch on how much of their own stock companies are buying back right now (October is always the month where stocks drop precipitously and companies buy back their own stock at a bargain) and when you see they have stopped, you can rest easy that the decline has ended.

      1. The only stock news I’ve paid heed to was Minds’ issuance of Series A-2 Preferred Shares to small investors. I had to look up what most of that meant.

        1. AlexinCT

          I bet you Bezos, whom everyone is saying lost some $19 billion recently, has been gobbling up his own stocks as they got cheaper, and in a month, when the market bounces back, will be worth an additional $30-40 billion, making himself some serious profits.

          1. I would not be surprised.

  13. Lachowsky

    We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States … with all of those benefits,” Trump continued. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

    Trump is right. All those benefits, they need to end.

    1. straffinrun

      My kid doesn’t have American citizenship, just Japanese. I don’t want her on the hook for her share of debt from two countries.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        RACIST!

        1. Tundra

          It’s ‘lacist’, Rufus.

          Sheesh.

          1. Well, of course I’m Lacist, velcro shoes are for little kids and loafers just feel wrong.

          2. pan fried wylie

            What about velcro sandals?

          3. If you’re wearing sandals, well, more fool you.

          4. pan fried wylie

            Surprise surprise, UCS not a fan of the preeminent footwear of spicy, tropical-flavored locales.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Speaking of cheap racist shots…..

          Straff are you gonna buy your kid one of these shirts?

          Coach her up on the pros of Brexit and send her out wearing that shirt.

  14. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop!

    I love White Rabbit. But Agent Orange’s cover of your (unsurprising finale) is a terrific homage.

    Have a great day!

    1. That’s not bad but the pace seems forced. I think if they slowed it down 5-10% it would be a lot better.

  15. Scruffy Nerfherder
    1. straffinrun

      I did that by accident once.

    2. Count Potato

      Woah.

    3. Evan from Evansville
      1. Tonio

        Sweet!

      2. Hell, if it ain’t broke…

        1. Brett L

          Right, if that guy’s just gonna keep throwing his arm into that shoulder throw, keep throwing him.

    4. Democratic Hitler

      That is some fucking insanity right there.

    5. whiz

      Remember Jeremy Lusk.

      Another Lunatic Fringe.

  16. Not Adahn

    This one is sure to stir up some excitement in the news today.

    I dunno. This morning’s NPR was all in on TRUMP MURDERS JEWS!!!!!! They seem to have chosen that to be the slogan until the midterms.

    1. Remember when Kavanaugh was the outrage of the day? Pepperidge Farm remembers!

      1. Drake

        Didn’t some guy mail fake bombs to somebody? I’m having trouble remembering.

        1. Not Adahn

          Oll Korrect.

          Which is why this last batch of ZXOMG NOT-SEEZ!! strikes me as having staying power. It hasn’t flickered with sending troops to the border and don’t think this “ending birthright citizenship.” thing will either.

          I could be wrong, I’m a pretty shitty precog, and there’s nothing in the charts about this.

        2. Tonio

          I can’t find anything on the bombs being fake – of course it’s understandable that the media would bury that, cops would want to play things up, etc. Gotta link?

          1. Michael

            They were built with materials that are typically used in improvised explosives but were done so incompetently that they could never have served their intended purpose. Think of giving a retarded preteen access to all the necessary parts and equipment and instructing them to build a car. You’ll end up with a fake car.

          2. WTF

            They didn’t even have all of the necessary components, there was no trigger, no detonator, and no way for the “bombs” to actually explode.

          3. cyto

            THE FBI SAYS THEY WERE DEFINITELY NOT FAKE BOMBS! YOU FASCISTS SHOULD ALL DIE YOU RACIST KKK TRUMP BOOTLICKERS!

            There, did I do it right?

          4. whiz

            Other than throwing them in a fire, maybe.

            And who puts a timer in a mail bomb?

          5. Tonio

            Thanks, guys.

          6. cyto

            My immediate (and publicly stated here and at reason) reaction was “there is no way someone is so incompetent that given a dozen tries they can’t get even one device to explode”. My challenge was to go to anywhereville USA in flyover country and find a couple of 13-14 year old boys. I guarantee any random 14 year old boy from anywhere rural or suburban could build a working bomb given 3 attempts, let alone more than a dozen.

            Yet the press doesn’t seem to be interested in that bit of the story. Maybe none of them are actually from a background where they’d expect kids to have blown stuff up, built dams, chopped down trees, built tree forts, shot guns….

            I’d find say it would be more surprising to have a dozen real amateur bombs go through the mail and not have one go off than to send a dozen real bombs through the mail and have every single one fail to detonate.

            You didn’t even need to see the bombs to have a heft suspicion that they were hoax devices.

          7. Drake

            CNN took pictures of the package instead of evacuating the building. I think they new it was a hoax.

  17. Donald Trump borrows from the old tricks of fascism

    The idea that the powerful must be coddled arose in a setting that recalls the United States of today. The Habsburg monarchy of Hitler’s youth was a multinational country with democratic institutions and a free press. Some Germans, members of the dominant nationality, felt threatened because others could vote and publish. Hitler was an extreme example of this kind of sentiment. Today, some white Americans are similarly threatened by presence of others in institutions they think of as their own. Among the targets of the accused pipe bomber were four women, five blacks, and two Jews. Just as (some) Germans were the only serious national problem within the Habsburg monarchy, so today are (some) white Americans the only serious threat to their own republic.

    Hitler formulated his version of total irresponsibility after the disaster of the first world war, which destroyed the Habsburg monarchy and fragmented its German ally. He found an explanation for the disaster that spared the ego of the German nationalists who had supported it. The world was a struggle, Hitler maintained, among superior and inferior races. If superior Germans were somehow defeated in a war, this only proved that an invisible power stood behind the visible facts: global Jewry.

    1. Chipwooder

      The “bomber” is Filipino, so I guess Asians are officially honkies now.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        False White Supremacist Consciousness

        No, I’m not really kidding.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I thought he was a Seminole or something or was that BS?

        1. Chipwooder

          Nope, he just liked to pretend he was, Lizzy Warren style

    2. WTF

      Some Germans progressives, members of the dominant nationality political, media, and educational culture, felt threatened because others could vote and publish. Hitler was an extreme example of this kind of sentiment.

      1. straffinrun

        That part rang of projection, didn’t it.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Man are these morons stttrrretching things.

    4. Drake

      Speaking of which – some speculation on what exactly went down with the fake bomber.

      That would explain why a courier delivered stamped packages.

      1. WTF

        There is an awful lot that just doesn’t add up. I am at least half convinced this guy was a just a dupe for the FBI/DNC operatives/whoever.

        1. cyto

          Yeah… having listened to his ex-lawyer talk about him, he fits the profile. Dumb, nuts and a joiner who is always looking for validation. (hence the “native american rights” period in his past).

          No evidence supports that at this point, but there’s a lot of WTF going on in a very compact story and it seems to be getting ignored.

      2. Luther Baldwin

        None of them have canceled stamps? I only recall seeing a picture of the one sent to CNN.

  18. Rebel Scum

    MSDNC “Republican” no MAGA

    Where we are is at an unprecedented place in American history. We have never had a president of the United States do what this president is doing. He is stoking a cold civil war in this country and it has turned hot on the periphery. This man (Pittsburgh shooter), what he said when he went in, “I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw the optics; I’m going in.” And he went in to kill Jews; the Jews he believed that were financing the caravan, the invading army, like a Panzer division that is threatening the southern border, an army that is racked and riddled with disease. The same type of rhetoric, the same type of propaganda that you would have seen in Germany in 1938, the dehumanization; turning people into infested vermin.

    We have a situation, whereby for the grace of God, the largest assassination attempt in American history was avoided that targeted amongst them, two former presidents of the United States. Every one of those people was a target of Donald trump’s, and this man, a fanatic, was radicalized by Fox News, by talk radio, by a right-wing propaganda machine that is as sophisticated as it has turned deadly … What we are seeing is the cooption of the conservative project, the Republican Party, in a cult of personality which is fundamentally unconservative led by Donald Trump that is authoritarian in nature, that is antithetical to the orthodoxies of the Republican party and the conservative movement as they have existed over the last fort years but it is something more: it is the incitement.

    Forty percent of the country has opted into an alternate reality. We have to wake up in this country and understand the danger that this presents to all of us. We can’t put our heads in the sand. Kellyanne Conway, despicably, today goes on national television, she said, well, this shooter’s motives were because there’s a (sic) anti-religious sentiment. No, ma’am. The propaganda industry that she commands, with the vile president that she serves, abetted by Mark Levin, and Rush Limbaugh, and Breitbart, and NewsBusters, and Judicial Watch and all the rest of them have blood on their hands for the incitements that they have made that have triggered and radicalized these crazy people. It is deliberate in intent. He scapegoats minority populations; he alleges conspiracies; he creates a sense of shared and virtuous victimhood, positions himself as the avenger, and there is no cost too high so long as it benefits his narcissism, so long as it benefits him politically.

    I think he is being slightly disingenuous.

    1. WTF

      Projection, projection, projection.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      It’s like the ricin mailings that happened a couple of weeks ago never occurred.

    3. Raphael

      I was talking with my dear mother the other day and she was just upset that Trump was making us and his office an embarrassment and disparaging our “allies”. I kindly told her that if that means we get to butt out of everywhere else (meaning our various European friends can start working on their own defenses) and the people stop looking up to the President as a god and savior ala Choco Jesus, this presidency is worth it.

      Side note, but it’s funny in that blurb how they mention Mark Levin inciting bloodshed and radicalization. I’ve caught a few episodes but AFAIK, the only confrontation he’s “incited” is for people to go to the polls and vote. What a disingenuous clown.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Levin is far from an inciter. The inclusion of his name puts the lie to their stated intentions. This is purely about getting political results. They don’t want peace and violence is A-OK as long as it leads to the outcome they desire.

        1. If they’d said he was a mean-spirited little man, I’d have agreed, but that is not incitement, let alone illegal.

        2. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Also the hate speech angle:
          Take them off the air!!

      2. Rebel Scum

        Levin gets a little intense in his delivery but I have never heard him advocate violence. Besides, isn’t he Jewish?

        1. Raphael

          I can see that in the show, at least when I’ve seen him play clips and he does his spiel. I do believe he is Jewish yes. And like UCS said too, I can see them calling him a bitter man as well, but also that’s different from him telling people to get heads rolling.

          1. Raphael

            *to clarify the last bit, bitter/mean-spirited does not = a provocateur of “domestic terrorism” or “revolution”

          2. straffinrun

            His “get off my lawn” thing gets on my nerves real quick. Being pissed off doesn’t equal being a terrorist.

    4. Raston Bot

      ^inside the unhinged paranoid fantasies of the Left

  19. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Tard Tuesday

    Ali Velshi is crying on MSNBC and now I am too.
    He read the names of those killed this weekend. He showed their photos and read what friends remember about each of them.

    We can not let this be forgotten. We must hold people accountable…from Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell for not denouncing the GOP enablers and collaborators to Rush Limbaugh and his hate speech to social media who isn’t taking serious actions against allowing this to spread.

    1. WTF

      So, a Trump-hater goes off and kills a bunch of Jews, and it is somehow the fault of the Republicans?
      The fuck is wrong with these people?

      1. Raphael

        Collective guilt only belongs to the icky groups of our Civil Society.

    2. Rebel Scum

      Something something Farrakhan…

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Who? What’s Hymietown?

      2. I thought he announced he’d left the ministry and was taking up a post with Orkin.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Their hate of Rush Limbaugh is beyond retarded and misplaced.

      Also, all of a sudden the left loves ‘da joos’?

      It’s nauseating the lack of principles and outright lying out there.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The left has owned the Jewish vote (particularly the Reform wing) for decades but their stranglehold is beginning to break.

    4. Rebel Scum

      Along the same lines.

      “This Congress in this election on November 6, Americans have the chance to go out and save lives and elect politicians that don’t try to divide and conquer but try to unite and conquer the challenges that we face as a people, that attack the sources of evil and not the people that are perpetrating it,” Hogg said.

      “Because in reality, none of us are Democrats or Republicans, we’re Americans that have to face the same issues every day and we’re not going to get anywhere by blaming other people,” Hogg continued. “We have to go after the sources of evil and not those perpetrating it, contrary to what the president likes to do.”

      1. So, he’s become an antiprogressive already? Or is he saying we shouldn’t shoot the Antifa rioters?

      2. Democratic Hitler

        Oh yeah, we totally need another Great Uniter. We haven’t had anyone who bestowed that mantle on themselves in such a long, long time, certainly not within the awareness window of Mr. Hogg. If only someone could lay claim to that role, but who? Who??

    1. Chipwooder

      And the most Marxist costume would be an 8 year old coal miner buying nothing, because he is a slave laborer who will work until he dies.

    1. Tundra

      *rolls eyes*

      Still icc.

    2. Raphael

      I think she’d look better with bangs, but ce la vie. I still #would. Damn these young lad hormones.

      1. AlexinCT

        How does the saying go again? You would fuck a pile of rocks on the off chance there was a snake in it?

        1. Raphael

          I’ll have to consult my old book of Florida Man sayings to see if it’s in there.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder
      1. Tundra

        Excellent. Nice work, Scruffy!

      2. straffinrun

        BTW, how’s the health?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Waiting on test results. Got some weird neurological symptoms up to and including phantom smells, which is particularly annoying. Mental faculties seem to be fine right now and I havn’t ven hadd porblims wid muh werds.

          1. straffinrun

            Let’s hope for the best, eh.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Thanks

          3. Pope Jimbo

            phantom smells

            Sounds like the flatulant coworker in the next cube is taking advantage of the situation.

            On a serious note, hoping for the best for you.

          4. Scruffy Nerfherder

            It’s somewhere between cigar and cat shit. Imagine a catbutt with a cigar sticking out of it.

            *paging Swiss*

          5. Mojeaux

            I’ve had phantom smells. Seriously irritating. Mine is cigarette smoke.

            My bestie (who smokes) came to live with us for a while. She would go outside to smoke, but the REAL cigarette smoke, which I hate, was real and not in my imagination, so it was a sick sort of relief.

            I haven’t had any phantom smells since she moved out, at least not of cigarette smoke. My sniffer is still not dependable.

      3. Evan from Evansville

        I do not find that particularly attractive.

        She needs to be eating several more cheeseburgers every day for quite a while to get some meat on her. She has an unusual face, also. Looks more like “unique to be used for modeling purposes” rather than traditionally beautiful.

        Still would.

    4. From the NY Post article in the links you can wind up via the sidebar on an article about Danica McKellar in a Slave Leia costume.

      Now, let me go on record as saying that I think she is an absolute smokeshow, and I have done ever since The Wonder Years. Let me also say that, having seen her in person at a science ed convention, she looks even better in real life, especially when she’s nerding out about math. I am absolutely, 100% certain that if she came up to my door in that costume asking for candy I’d have a massive coronary and die with a big, stupid smile on my face. It’d be like seeing the Ark of the Covenant.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Naptown Bill? More like Naptown Dick!

        You can’t talk about a story with a hot slave girl costume (on a libertarian site no less) without linking to it. Fine. I’ll enact your labor for you.

        *JK by the way. I’m sure you are a fine person as far as libertarians go.

        1. Evan from Evansville

          Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

          1. pan fried wylie

            Yeah, that page was a resource hogging nightmare.

        2. I feel like the journey is part of the experience. Also, I didn’t trust myself to go to the page again and remember why I was there.

      2. CPRM

        An early crush of mine from watching The Wonder Years and it only made her hotter when she resurfaced to doing math stuff.

        1. cyto

          It is really frustrating when they trot out these unicorns. Real life isn’t like that.

          You can have hot. Or nerdy. But not both. And usually neither.

          1. Yeah, part of her value is in her extreme rarity. I don’t know what the equivalent is for straight women. I’m also pretty sure that means I’m not it.

    5. Bobarian LMD

      That procedure may be non-surgical, but there is no way that posterior is. 10 lbs of silicone in a 5lb ass.

  20. Tundra

    Damn, that does not sound like a pleasant way to go.

    No it doesn’t. Sad story, but college kids have been finding creative ways to kill themselves forever. When I was a sophomore in college, a couple of guys died when they got run over by a train Rumor had it they were sleeping on the tracks.

    Kids do stupid shit. Most make it out alive and (hopefully) a little smarter.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Hey, she died doing what she loved.

    2. Lachowsky

      Some people just aren’t that bright when it comes to trains.

      https://youtu.be/oeKML8o5QEU

  21. Old Man With Candy

    Sputnik II carries a dog into space

    This happened when I was a kid. I quickly figured out that the poor dog was going to die slowly and horribly, and cried for days.

    This is when I learned to hate Communism.

    1. Bitch had it coming.
      -Khrushchev

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        *bangs shoe in approval*

        1. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

          We will bury you. If you make it back to earth.

    2. Evan from Evansville

      I like how Laika was taken home the night before the launch and got to play with the director/project leader’s kids.

      I very easily could (and maybe should) make that a sad thought and how the kids didn’t know what was going to happen. But I like the opportunity to play one last time before making history.

      Reminds me of the ending of the flick AI. I don’t think I’ve ever actually seen the whole thing but damn if the ending didn’t make me ball my eyes out with touching sadness.

      1. AlexinCT

        It is like the last meal they give death row inmates dude…

        1. Evan from Evansville

          I rather like that tradition, although apparently it doesn’t at all work the way that people think it does.

          1. AlexinCT

            I would demand a Poon tang buffet…

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      What was the reason for brining a dog into space? Other, of course, than commies being evil degenerates.

      1. They didn’t have monkeys* to fire into orbit.

        We were doing chimp tests around the same stage of tech development.

        *yes, I know, chimps are not monkeys.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          And we brought Ham back home.

          Fucking commies.

          1. I’m trying to remember the name of the darn monkey whose memoral at the Nasa rocket center in Huntsville was covered with bananas left by tourists. (Not only brought back but lived abnormally long for the species)

          2. The Last American Hero

            Something happened out there….

          3. I’m Here To Help

            Baker.

            My wife worked at Space Camp for a while. As did my brother…

          4. Nephilium

            I went to Space Camp when I was a kid, probably close to 30 years ago at this point.

          5. cyto

            Yeah, I visited them at the Huntsville center.

            It used to be something of a pilgrimage. I was born in Huntsville… my dad actually blew up a few buildings designing rocket fuel for the Trident, Shrike, and a couple of other missiles.

            He still can’t talk about some of the cool stuff they did, but he did tell me that they were working via remote arms with a compound so volatile that 4 engineers were talking with 2 of the PhD’s while the stuff was a precipitate drying on a filter paper and suddenly they were just 6 guys standing in a field next to a big shield wall.

            It just spontaneously exploded, and a small sample was enough to eliminate the building around them…. (designed to give way like that instead of killing everyone).

            Yeah… dad never did sleep too well, even after we moved on to other places and he took other jobs.

          6. leon

            How goes American saying? Sometimes must bust some balls to make omlette?

      2. Drake

        Just to see if they could keep it alive for a few days – or if their shitty Russian capsule explosively decompressed as soon as it hit vacuum.

        1. Yeah, it feeds into the “Soviet Cosmonauts use pencil!” schtick nicely. Laika was a stray (Laika apparently means “Barker” in Rooskie) and they figured it’s easier to grab a stray dog off the street than find a monkey in Russia.

    4. Tonio

      Didn’t we launch a monkey on a one-way flight early in our space program. I know that they recovered the apes used as test subjects later in the space programs.

      1. Hey, Apes and Monkeys are expensive.

        Besides, it allows the same launch to test re-entry and recovery systems.

    5. Brasidas

      If it makes you feel any better, the dog died a few hours after the launch when the temperature control of the spacecraft failed.

  22. Georgia sheriff’s office puts up ‘No trick-or-treat’ signs at sex offenders’ homes

    Door to door, the Butts County Sheriff’s Office in Georgia will put up signs to make sure no children trick-or-treat at the homes of registered sex offenders.

    The sheriff’s office posted a notice to Facebook on Saturday.

    “Georgia law forbids registered sex offenders from participating in Halloween, to include decorations on their property,” Sheriff Gary Long said in the notice. “With the Halloween on the square not taking place this year, I fully expect the neighborhoods to be very active with children trick-or-treating.”

    The signs read, “WARNING! NO TRICK-OR-TREAT AT THIS ADDRESS!!” and feature a trick-or-treating bag covered over by the universal “no symbol.”

    1. Old Man With Candy

      This is why I hate cops.

      1. AlexinCT

        There goes your Halloween plans?

      2. Spartacus

        I wonder what would happen if some prankster put those signs up on a bunch of cops’ houses?

        1. AlexinCT

          Death penalty.

    2. Lachowsky

      Where can I get one of those signs? Do I have to commit a sex crime crime first, or are they available to the general public as well?

      1. straffinrun

        “Totally NOT a sex offender” sign would probably work just as well.

      2. You can probably get them printed. I mean if every fool running for dogcatcher can get yard signs…

        1. Nephilium

          You don’t even have to be running for anything.

    3. Nephilium

      But then how will Sam find people breaking the rules of Halloween to punish?

      1. I LOVE THAT MOVIE!

        1. Nephilium

          The world needs more good anthology horror films like this one.

          1. I enjoyed the V/H/S movies.

          2. Raphael

            Yo, those were great. I only saw the first two, but damn there was some nice creepy shiz in there.

          3. Nephilium

            I haven’t seen them, but what I really liked about Trick-R-Treat was that all of the bits of the anthology fit together. And it wasn’t just Sam wandering from story to story (best example of this off the top of my head is Cat’s Eye with the cat).

        2. Me three! Reminds me I have to watch it soon.

    4. cyto

      One question….

      In the nearly 100 years since the introduction of “trick or treat” to American culture, exactly how many children have been molested as they rang the front doorbell on a known sex offender’s house?

      I mean, the absolute numbers have to be vanishingly small….. but given the number of kids trick-or-treating, the percentage has to be very close to zero, right?

      Or did I miss something over the last 50 years?

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        OMWC is only one person! He can’t be everywhere at once*- cut him some slack!

        *Unlike STEVE SMITH

      2. I mean, the absolute numbers have to be vanishingly small….. but given the number of kids trick-or-treating, the percentage has to be very close to zero, right?

        Yeah, but how are we going to gin up a moral panic with that attitude?

      3. Nephilium

        It’s almost constant. Just like the poisoned candy, and sabotaged treats, and all of the other scares.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    False White Supremacist Consciousness

    Why else would a black person vote for Trumpitler?

  24. Tundra

    Democrats Have Become the Party of ‘Basic White Bitches’

    Article doesn’t really live up to the excellent headline, but some funny lines, nonetheless.

    1. Michael

      Here we see a herd of independent female minds led in chant (by a man, no less) at the Capitol building during the Kavanaugh hearings. If these women have ideas about what they are doing here beyond reliving their high school hollaback days and their golden years as campus judicial board inquisitors, it is likely that those thoughts have more to do with lunch than leftism. They have about as much chance at making persuasive arguments on behalf of the “democracy” they lament (yet simultaneously disrupt) as they do of getting the smell of cat piss out of their Ugg boots.

      That is merciless.

  25. straffinrun

    German civil servant, former soldier fired for wishing Adolf Hitler happy birthday on Facebook

    “Irrespective of how loudly people stir up hatred against you, you were quite simply a hero to many Germans,” he wrote. “I too declare my support for you.”

    1. Chipwooder

      I’ll wait for Hitler’s response before jumping to any conclusions.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    The same type of rhetoric, the same type of propaganda that you would have seen in Germany in 1938, the dehumanization; turning people into infested vermin.

    Not like us- we have nothing but empathy and respect for those who disagree with us.

    1. WTF

      +Deplorables

  27. pan fried wylie

    Seriously, they must beat themselves in the head with hammers every night before bed, because this level of stupid can’t be derived naturally.

    It’s obviously not homeopathic unless you severely dilute the hammer, but otherwise, 100% All Natural.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    “Hold on. For you not to push back on that — for her to say, the president of the United States has radicalized more people than ISIS is irresponsible,” Urban told Tapper.

    “OK, you disagree with it,” Tapper replied to Urban.

    Nice. Way to hold the high ground, Jake.

    “I’m sorry. I’m sorry you found out about our complete and uncompromising disdain for you. Happy now?”

  29. The Late P Brooks

    “This Congress in this election on November 6, Americans have the chance to go out and save lives and elect politicians that don’t try to divide and conquer but try to unite and conquer the challenges that we face as a people, that attack the sources of evil and not the people that are perpetrating it,” Hogg said.

    Elephant washing machine gallop benediction yellow corncob.

    1. Brett L

      Winter Soldier awaiting command.

      1. Raphael

        I am ready to comply.

    2. Fascinating. Don’t arrest people for driving dangerously, just ban dangerousness and cars. Can’t imagine how this kid isn’t in grad school yet.

      1. AlexinCT

        That must be his thesis..

  30. Juvenile Bluster

    So on one side of things VP Pence has a “Christian Rabbi”, whatever the fuck that is, give a speech on the Tree of Life shooting.

    On the other side, the Women’s March turns it into an anti-Trump rally led by known Jew-lover Linda Sarsour.

    Can I get off of this planet now?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      As long as you pay the expat taxes.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        How quickly are you allowed to renounce your US citizenship when you establish Mars citizenship?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          It’s automatic once you kill Cohagen.

          1. The Last American Hero

            A man can dream.

      2. Raphael

        +1 Uncle Sam nudges and winks

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        There’s only one way off and I doubt you have to pay taxes there.

    2. Chipwooder

      Christian rabbi = Messianic Jew? Maybe?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Yeah, it was a messianic Jew. A Messianic Jew is a Christian. THAT’S THE FUCKING THING THAT DIVIDES US! THE WHOLE JESUS THING!

        1. I think you can be a messianic Jew and reject the idea that Jesus was the messiah.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            No, it’s basically a Jew that accepts Jesus as the Messiah, but wants to continues to live with Jewish rules.

          2. Worst of both worlds?

          3. Tonio

            ^This

          4. robc

            I think that was Paul’s point.

        2. Chipwooder

          Hey now, I was just trying to answer the question, not legitimize Messianic Jews aka Christians.

        3. robc

          All of the original Christians were Jews. And I think Paul was clear that they didn’t stop being Jews.

          The early debate was whether gentiles had to first convert to Judaism in order to be a Christian. That debate was resoundingly answered with a “NO!”

    3. Heroic Mulatto

      VP Pence has a “Christian Rabbi”, whatever the fuck that is, give a speech on the Tree of Life shooting.

      Christ, what an asshole!

  31. Juvenile Bluster

    I voted this morning. Voted for DWS’s Republican opponent (she’s going to get 80% of the vote) and I left the Governor and Senate lines blank..

    1. cyto

      How in the world can anyone send these people back into power?

      DWS got caught flagrantly violating US election law – and worse for partisan democrats, completely corrupting the DNC nomination process. And they are gonna send her back to Washington?

      Where are my “holy crap, they re-elected THAT?” guys on the right? Remember when we used to have Bob Dornan and Jesse Helms? The DNC probably has 20 of those in congress right now, where are all the republican loonies? Is it just that the left has deplatformed most of them?

      1. Chipwooder

        B-1 Bob! He had the unique distinction of being the only member of Congress to appear in an MST movie, a starring role in a bit of 1960s Air Force propaganda called The Starfighters

        But to answer your question seriously, Steve King fits that bill rather perfectly.

        1. You’ll have to outline the crime for those of use who either don’t remember or forgot.

        2. Juvenile Bluster

          In 1995, when I was in my Young Republican days, I went to a Presidential strawpoll event in Orlando. I was working as a volunteer for (shudder) Phil Gramm.

          One of my buddies spent an evening drinking with Dornan at a bar in the hotel. My buddy was pretty plastered at the end. I’m sure Dornan didn’t feel it.

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        Steve and Peter King come to mind.

        Probably some others I’m not thinking of.

      3. kbolino

        Apart from diehard Sanders fans, most Democrats either ignored or whitewashed everything DWS did. At this point, half the vote for her is probably “she persisted” (like an unrepentant felon) and the other half is “she brings home the bacon” (being stupid is no handicap in a world of connections).

  32. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. Not sure why anyone has not thought of this yet. The DFL candidate for Gov. totally won me over with this gem from a recent debate

    When pressed by Johnson to give his views on single payer, Walz said, “I don’t care what that payer looks like as long as we’re getting value for our dollars, we are improving that care receiver’s health and adequately compensating those care providers. There are many different models that have been tried. Most of the countries that get better outcomes with cheaper price have ended up cutting the payer out of that.”

    It is so obvious now. Why did no one else figure out that the key to single payer is to cut the payer out of the equation?

    I feel bad for Johnson. How do you debate on an issue like health care when you have to defend the side that says that resources are limited and demand is going to have to be limited somehow. Either by prices or by govt flunkies. Your opponent gets to swing away for the fences and doesn’t even have to pretend that he knows where the money will come from.

    1. Drake

      Single Payer is one too many!

  33. The Late P Brooks

    “Irrespective of how loudly people stir up hatred against you, you were quite simply a hero to many Germans,”

    He’s not wrong, you know.

    This is why he must be burnt at the stake. For making certain people feel uncomfortable.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      He’s technically correct, but… c’mon, man.

    2. That Germany was in such a state of affairs as to regard Adolf Hitler as a patriot and a hero speaks more to the ridiculous terms of the Versailles Treaty and the incompetence of the German political classes than to his own merit as a person. Which, if I even need to say it, seems to be utterly lacking.

      1. kbolino

        It is probably worth noting that Hitler got into power because Hindenburg appointed him there not because he won an election. Many thought of him that way, but any time after 1933 it’s impossible to separate out genuine support from too-scared-to-say-anything “support”.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    CNN breaks it down

    Democrats’ top opportunities to capture Republican-held seats are concentrated in well-educated, higher-income and preponderantly white districts. Most of these seats are centered on economically thriving suburbs around major metropolitan areas where Trump faces widespread resistance among white-collar voters, especially women, on cultural and personal grounds.
    With only a few exceptions, Democrats face more uncertain prospects in Republican-held House seats centered on the blue-collar, exurban and rural communities where Trump remains popular, the analysis found. Of the 43 Republican-held seats that CNN considers leaning toward the Democrats or toss-ups, only nine are in districts where the white population exceeds the national average and the share of residents with college degrees lags the national average.

    This stark divergence carries several clear implications, both for election night and beyond.

    tl;dr- Dumb people vote Republican. Dumb poor people who are white supremacists.

    1. Raphael

      If only all those stupid hick Republicans went to COLLEGE.

      1. For a while it confused me as to the voting patterns of ostensibly well-educated people.

        Then all the dirty laundry regarding hollow degrees and indoctrination courses came to light. Now I’m not surprised anymore.

        1. Raphael

          Yup. Going into university as a psychology major, I barely learned about the field of psychology I wanted to get into, but I definitely learned a lot about the people in the program/department with me and their patterns.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            My experience was great and the profs rarely voiced their personal opinions on anything. Sure, you could recognize the implicit bias in many of the studies you had to read but it was surprisingly politics free (about 10 years ago so that might have changed) and was enjoyable.

          2. Raphael

            I did have a few enjoyable courses as well. They were just all courses that were outside of my major/department. I remember hanging out at my Medieval Lit. professor’s office and just having discussions with him about the accuracy of swordplay/combat in fantasy/medieval films or just making Monty Python jokes.

          3. NERDDSSSS!! /Ogre

          4. Raphael

            I cannot argue against that claim.

            *cries and has his lunch money taken from him*

    2. Count Potato

      “resistance among white-collar voters, especially women”

      See Tundra’s link above. Who controls the pumpkin spice, controls the Democrats.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    He’s technically correct, but… c’mon, man.

    Erasing history, rather than learning from it, is a recipe for disaster.

    1. AlexinCT

      But necessary to get enough stupid rubes whose envy/jealousy you can pray on to peddle marxist totalitarianism.

  36. Say what you want about Trump, but the guy really is a genius when it comes to controlling the media narrative.

    I don’t know if it’s through careful thought or if it’s instinctive, but he sensed the momentum shifting away from the Pubs due to the “bomber” and the Nazi shooter, so he just grabs the third rail and watches the media feeding frenzy ensue. Not only that, he chooses an issue that’s a clear loser for the Dems and forces them into a position of defending a policy that, my guess, is unpopular with a strong majority of voters. It’ll almost certainly be blocked by a judge, but that plays right into his hand. Then he gets months of red meat for his supporters and a boogeyman to rail against.

    Regardless of the political implications, I’m just happy to see this test case brought forward to see how this will apply to illegals and tourists once and for all.

    1. Count Potato

      I’m not fond of birth tourism. But I’m not sure if there is a good way to discriminate against pregnant Chinese women.

      1. Just Say’n

        Remember when the worry was Russian women and the media nodded and said “literally Hitler”, because fever dreams?

        https://www.theweek.com/speedreads/748344/russian-birth-tourists-are-flocking-miami-trump-condos-give-birth-american-citizens

        It’s the principal of the matter

        1. CPRM

          Gotta love that Trump connection. “See, it’s a spy program! Trump is enabling Russian sleeper cells!”

          1. Just Say’n

            The difference between most “reporters” and Alex Jones is that Alex Jones spread conspiracy theories with a grain of truth (frogs are no doubt the gays of the amphibian world), but about the wrong principles; whereas, “reporters” spread conspiracy theories with a grain of truth (no doubt women have babies), but about the right principles.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Sob story

    Much as with the rest of U.S. industry, Hollywood’s middle class has seen the stability that reigned from the 1940s to the 1980s slowly chipped away in pieces over the last several decades. In 1993, the so-called fin-syn laws, which prevented companies from owning a production studio and a network, were abolished, ushering in an era of consolidation that reduced competition. Around the same time, cable television exploded, which diverted eyeballs and advertisers from the Big Four networks, which had been the most reliable providers of job security and good pay. In addition, most original programming on cable networks was produced on the cheap. In 2007, a Writers Guild strike, just as the global economic collapse began, led to a contraction from which workers have not fully recovered. Networks slashed their budgets for lucrative overall development deals for writers who were in any way associated with hit shows, and salaries were slow to return to pre-downturn levels.

    Then came the arrival of streaming, which has only accelerated the decline for workers.

    tl;dr- Change sucks.

    No more Corporation Man; rich get richer, poor get poorer, middle class gets eaten, blah blah blah

    1. The Last American Hero

      So cable television exploded after laws were passed that ushered in the era of consolidation allegedly limiting competition. Does anybody proofread this BS?

      I know someone who works in Hollywood. As has been the case for decades, there is no shortage of people eager to write/direct/produce/edit/act etc. Breaking in to the scene is very difficult, and getting on plum projects is still real tough. There is a huge number of platforms, so the ace talent is more spread out than ever, but there is no shortage of film grads wanting to work in entertainment – and there never has been.

    2. Chipwooder

      I’ve been told losers in dying industries should learn to code.

      1. No. No. No. We get enough bad code flooding the market. A lot of people simply aren’t cut out for it.

        1. Chipwooder

          It was just a smartass crack – so called “creative class” types on the left like to say that about people who have lost factory jobs

          1. Just Say’n

            Richard Florida is a special kind of asshole

          2. Chipwooder

            And living proof that you can be utterly, completely wrong and still have a smashing career if you have the proper political opinions.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            Is SAG calling for tariffs on anime and kung-fu flicks?

          4. “Cultural Appropriation Penalty.”

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            Pay the CAP or face the rap!

          6. Chipwooder

            Hey hey, ho ho!

          7. *sinks an axe in Chip’s skull*

            None of that! I can’t stand that!

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Shut up! If a bunch of failed starlets want to join my team, I’m all for it!

          Of course, standups will have to start including 3-ring binders that can be strategically held.

      2. Just Say’n

        Starvation is also a viable alternative

      3. kbolino

        Having tried to teach people to code, all I can say is… anybody who thinks that’s a solution is a fool or a knave.

  38. LJW

    Wrong Team

    How to be to disowned by your father in 5 seconds.

    1. Drake

      LOL

  39. commodious spittoon

    Roger Waters helped underwrite environmentalists’ conspiracy against Chevron in fraudulent Ecuadorian lawsuit.

    Roger Waters, the rock musician, has denounced Chevron for its “greed,” complaining that it is “disquietingly apparent that the rich and powerful are still much attached to the feathering of their own nests at any cost to others.” Well. Documents submitted to the court show “George R. Waters” taking two equity positions in the case, one for 0.76 percent and one for 0.25 percent, through “Fenwick,” presumably the firm of Mark Fenwick, Rogers’s manager and an heir to the Fenwick department-store chain in the United Kingdom. That would come to roughly $9.6 million of a $9.5 billion judgment. You could feather a lot of nests with that.

    It is always projection with the left, 100% forever and ever.

    1. AlexinCT

      They should have used the Clinton foundation to make this shit totes legit…

  40. AlmightyJB

    “As long as my tax dollars weren’t involved I don’t give much of a shit.”

    Oh just you wait.

    1. Tonio

      ^This.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I was hoping for no video at all

    2. Did you mean to link to your earlier comment?

        1. Luther Baldwin

          no one noticed the stickers on his van because…

          …they didn’t exist until last week?

          1. CPRM

            Some guy put out pictures from earlier in the year, with metadata. What that means, I don’t know. But he says he was suspicious of the van because it was parked near a jewish business. Why he’s so racist as to think a jew can’t be obsessed with Trump I don’t know.

          2. Luther Baldwin

            Damn, snark fail.

    3. Tonio

      [rustles tinfoil headgear]

    4. AlmightyJB

      Let me guess. Michael Avenatti sent him hundreds of texts in the weeks leading up to this.

      1. “If I send out enough boms, One of them will get that creepy porn lawyer! Then He’ll finally leave me alone!”

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Pestilence!

    Prior to the explosive population boom of the 20th century, humanity’s consumption was smaller than the Earth’s rate of renewal. But the report notes that ecosystems are now quickly being depleted, with forests, coral reefs, wetlands and mangroves all shrinking.

    In the last 30 years, the Earth is estimated to have lost about half of its shallow water corals, while in the past 50 years, 20% of the Amazon—the lungs of the planet—has disappeared.

    These human-driven changes are so severe that scientists believe we may be inducing a mass extinction event.

    “Earth is losing biodiversity at a rate seen only during mass extinctions,” the report says.

    Further, drastic shifts are expected as “people are responsible for releasing 100 billion tonnes of carbon into the Earth system every 10 years,” it adds.

    More material for the doomsday cultists’ spank bank.

    1. WTF

      Paul R. Ehrlich?

  42. Just Say’n

    I think it’s pretty unfair of the president to assert that the media is the enemy of the American people. It’s pretty clear that they’re only the enemy of roughly half the American people. For the other half, they are political activists on behalf of their cause.

  43. Chipwooder

    @CNET
    Follow Follow @CNET
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    Bitcoin could be responsible for a colossal climate disaster.

    5:04 PM – 29 Oct 2018

    1. Just Say’n

      Oh man, that’s some next level stupid.

    2. kbolino

      If you dial the insanity down about 99%, there is something there. Cryptocurrencies are basically turning kWh into money. A lot of electricity was “wasted” when a bunch of people thought they could make money by mining bitcoins at the same time.

  44. AlexinCT

    WTF could go wrong with this brilliant idea,/a.?

    1. Luther Baldwin

      Sooper geenyus.

    2. Count Potato

      It just sounds like a government job picking up trash.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Picking up their own trash.

        Can’t see any perverse incentives in that at all.

        DIG THAT HOLE! NOW FILL IT!

        1. Count Potato

          Because government employees don’t make work for themselves?

          1. Generally when there’s no work, we stand around chatting.

      2. Luther Baldwin

        For $15 an hour and no doubt tons of bennies.

        FWIW, this article raises a good point about the two very different “homeless” populations. I think it’s likely that the drug addicts and folks with mental issues that make up the visible homeless are not going to be “homeless” who get these jobs – rather, it will be the invisible, employable ones.

        1. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

          The invisible, employable ones aren’t the ones making the mess in the first place.

    3. commodious spittoon

      It’s simple, really: poop bounties.

    1. Just Say’n

      She’s sowwy

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Every time Sarah Jeong posts anything anywhere. It should be replied to with this.

      • “Dumbass f***ing white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants”

      • White people exude “a weird dog smell when it rains.” This was not an offhand remark that Jeong thoughtlessly transmitted; in fact, she provided a chart to illustrate this alleged olfactory phenomenon.

      • “f*** white women lol.”

      • “White men are bulls***.”

      • “oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men.” So Jeong is an ageist, too.

      • “White people have stopped breeding. You’ll all go extinct soon. That was my plan all along.”

      • “#CancelWhitePeople”

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        White people exude “a weird dog smell when it rains.” This was not an offhand remark that Jeong thoughtlessly transmitted; in fact, she provided a chart to illustrate this alleged olfactory phenomenon.

        Alleged?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          It’s more of a sour milk smell, though.

          1. +1 vaginal yeast infection

          2. Luther Baldwin

            Must be all that milk that white people drink.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            That’s what I’ve heard as the cause, to be honest. Just like why all Indians reek of cumin.

          4. Luther Baldwin

            I’m glad vodka is odorless, then.

        2. Just Say’n

          Meh…at least they just smell like dogs, rather than eating dogs.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            No, that is exactly why the French smell.

    3. AlexinCT

      The fact that these people lack any sense of self awareness is just scary.

      1. cyto

        The reply-storm on that tweet is epic.

  45. AlexinCT

    Did any of the Glibs read up on the the most recent shenanigans from the IPCC?

    Global warming is now defined by the IPCC as a speculative 30-year global average temperature that is based, on one hand, on the observed global temperature data from the past 15 years and, on the other hand, on assumed global temperatures for the next 15 years. This proposition was put before the recent IPCC meeting at Incheon, in the Republic of Korea and agreed as a reasonable thing to do to better communicate climate trends. Astonishingly, this new IPCC definition mixes real and empirical data with non-exiting and speculative data and simply assumes that a short-term 15-year trend won’t change for another 15 years in the future.

    Get that? So instead of 30 years of data, you get the last 15 years of data, massaged and rigged to produce warming, and 15 years of pure bullshit made up data obviously created to show radical warming. then you can scream catastrophe, and demand tyrannical global marxism as the solution. these people are fucking evil.

    1. cyto

      I like the way they always cherry pick their start dates. Cherry picking your end date to be 15 years in the future is kinda new though.

      — an lest you think me a loony , cherry picking start dates is a hallmark of partisans on both sides of the climate debate.

      I’m still looking for an explanation as to why we haven’t followed the 200k year cycle that climate graphs show from ice cores and plunged into another ice age. It looks to my untrained eye like we are long overdue.

    2. kbolino

      In a sane world, the climate cultists would have been driven out on a rail by now. They’re making Lysenkoism look tame.

  46. Just Say’n

    Q: How does the LP start winning elections?

    https://twitter.com/ThomasEWoods/status/1055883685742997506

    A: By endorsing the exact same hyperbole as the Democrats.

    The alternative that wasn’t.

    1. cyto

      The policy is “nobody at the Today show ever wanted her hired in the first place and when they saw an opportunity they pressed their advantage on air really hard.”

  47. Sorry if this is old news, but damn… Am I wrong to think that this is a really big deal?

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/37715/kanye-west-debuts-blexit-clothing-line-encourage-emily-zanotti

    1. Chipwooder

      Well, if Dems started getting, say, 70% of the black vote instead of 90%, they’re finished as a competitive party.

      Don’t think this is gonna do that, but that’s why they’re getting hysterical over it.

      1. AlexinCT

        I believe that their hysterics and the absolutely vile abuse they have leveled on people like Kanye – for daring to leave the plantation – will actually backfire on them and lead to exactly this scenario. As of recent I have seen a lot of people in the black community do a double take when democrats tell us they will repeal the Trump tax cuts and create a handout for the poor if they win congress, killing job opportunity for African Americans just to again make them dependent on handouts from their dnc masters in DC, and for the left’s insane support of illegal migrants (those “caravans”) that then come here to compete with African Americans for jobs and welfare handouts. Some are realizing the democrats are taking them for granted and trying hard to keep them dependent, and the are not liking that.

      2. prolefeed

        “Well, if Dems started getting, say, 70% of the black vote instead of 90%, they’re finished as a competitive party.”

        Having around 2.4% of the populace (12.4 percent times 0.2) switching party affilation would hurt Democrats at the margin, but not as much as you’d think. Democrats tend to be clustered in urban areas where they win by incredibly lopsided margins.

    2. Michael

      I think it’s telling that people are still freaking the fuck out even though he’s not explicitly instructing anyone to vote for Republicans but rather to simply leave the Democrats.

      1. Chipwooder

        Because, like I said, without an utter and complete stranglehold on black voters, the Democrats cease to be a viable national party.

    3. Democratic Hitler

      There’s a conservative black woman on twitter named Candace Owens whom I’ve been following for a few weeks now. She’s in front of this BLEXIT thing and she brings the kind of cable-news-show-ready eloquence and presence that Kanye doesn’t. Her rhetoric is a bit over the top for me, but she’s definitely saying things that have to have democrats shaking in their boots. I’m not sure whether it’s going to get big, but I’ve been following it with some interest.

      1. cyto

        I have avoided listening to her because I don’t want to spoil the illusion…

        1. Democratic Hitler

          I’m not sure that’s a bad call tbh.

  48. Evan from Evansville

    Apropos of nothing, dinner consists of pea and bacon soup topped with feta.

    I’m given the option to have a free meal at work every day, but as I’ve many times mentioned I avail myself only about once a month. Contract is up in two months. I will have to be careful about eating all of the things (especially Italian sandwiches and soups and cheeses and Mexican and and and and….) when I get back.

    I got access to that freelancing gig and looks like I will be able to do a bunch of editing at work for the next few weeks. The pay is very low but I’ll play around with it and just get into the habit. I’m getting the impression that they don’t have the same standards that I do.

  49. ElspethFlashman

    OT: local news – former assistant prosecutor on trial for reckless driving causing serious injury

    https://www.woodtv.com/news/grand-rapids/-serious-injury-questioned-in-ex-prosecutor-s-trial/1560836867

      1. Chipwooder

        “Why settle for the LESSER evil?” Those shirts cracked me up.

        1. R C Dean

          Mine gets comments every time I wear it.

    1. Chipwooder

      Steve Scalise getting shot, Rand Paul getting beaten to a pulp, attempted ricin poisonings = “whataboutism”

      1. commodious spittoon

        Lazy. Krugman seems tired.

    2. Luther Baldwin

      “Hate is on the ballot”

      Not in California.

    3. Democratic Hitler

      I will certainly be taking my opportunity to express my hatred at the ballot box.

  50. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/DiscordianKitty/status/1056443691043299329

    “Characters like Cartman and Michael Scott did a lot to normalise bigotry. Yes, they were portrayed as in the wrong, but also portrayed as likable, funny, and harmless. They taught a generation to see racism, antisemitism and misogyny as harmless personality quirks.”

    Don’t call this moral panic a moral panic, bigot!

    1. Chipwooder

      I so enjoy being lectured by retarded 22 year old fat girls with blue hair.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Does anyone see Cartman as likeable? He’s an asshole. He’s portrayed as being an asshole.

      1. Chipwooder

        He’s the antagonist of almost every single episode, but because he’s given most of the funniest bits, he’s a popular character…..I assume that’s what this dolt is caterwauling about.

        Maybe if she and people like her would stop obsessing over fucking pop culture fluff as if it were Shakespeare, they might not be so incredibly annoying.

        1. Mojeaux

          They probably think Shakespeare was a misogynist (Ophelia), racist (Othello), and antisemite (Shylock).

      2. commodious spittoon

        But he’s tolerated, and often wins the day, which I suspect is her point: racists shouldn’t just be confronted or belittled, but silenced. Permanently.

        1. Chipwooder

          It’s the same thing as when Norman Lear was horrified that Archie Bunker, who he created as a villain, became the hero with audiences.

          1. kbolino

            And yet, he kept cashing those checks…

      3. AlmightyJB

        I love Cartman!

      4. My guess is that she likes Cartman and agrees with his bigotry and feels guilty about, and so… projection.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Par for the course.

    3. CPRM

      How quickly and thoroughly ‘mainstream’ views on things have changed certainly rings of religious fervor.

      1. Just Say’n

        The Evangelical Left, to quote Michael Malice

        1. Democratic Hitler

          I like it.

    4. I’m tempted to write an article about this, but maybe, just maybe, the airtight PC seal put on society is the cause of the explosive venting of steam, not the smokestacks that vent steam in a controlled manner.

    5. Just Say’n

      Aw man, she can really defend her position, too. Super bright this one

      @FlyIngenuity
      Oct 28

      I never got into the office. But I always thought the point of Cartman was that the kids all hated rejected and treated him like crap because of those faults you listed, but he stuck around because in his own eyes they loved him. And that he couldn’t see his own faults but they

      @DiscordianKitty
      Oct 28

      Nope.

      @FlyIngenuity
      Oct 28

      Ya didn’t let me finish

      @DiscordianKitty
      Oct 28

      I didn’t need to. You zoned in on one example that’s part of a larger issue, and by doing that you set aside context.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m going to use the context of her blue hair to surmise that she is impulsive and dumb.

        1. Just Say’n

          She’s undoubtedly dumb

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            “Idon’t owe a single person a debate, especially when that person displays a lack of comprehension. I didn’t claim there’s some master plan. Go knock strawmen down somewhere else.”

            She seems nice, you know if she’s single?

          2. I think she’s owned by some cats who’ve declared their intent to have their descendants feast upon her carcass when she finally dies.

          3. Chipwooder

            You magnificent bastard…..

          4. Did you at least read my book(s)?

          5. Chipwooder

            Odds on her dropping dead someday in a small apartment and her corpse being feasted on by her cats? Gotta be at least 3 to 1, right?

          6. The cats are banking on it.

          7. Just Say’n

            I’d venture to guess she’s probably one abortion away from dying alone

      2. R C Dean

        You zoned in on one example that’s part of a larger issue facts, and by doing that you set aside context my feelz.

      3. Wow. She’s an idiot. She’s just spitting out words and feeling as hard as she possibly can.

      4. Bob Boberson

        I’ll take “the projjecyist projection that ever projected” Alex

        His real complaint is that people are allowed to have opinions he doesn’t agree with in his view. He misses the days where all voices that didn’t mostly echo his own were silenced. And yet I’d bet money he claims to be against censorship.

    6. CPRM

      By her own twitter bio, she’s a fan of World of Warcraft, which has literal kung-fu pandas. But everyone else is racist because of things they like.

  51. Count Potato

    “This is sick stuff. Fox is becoming indistinguishable from InfoWars.”

    https://twitter.com/secupp/status/1057241142025220097

    Well, when you unperson Alex Jones, the “infowars” stuff has to go somewhere else.

    1. Also, while it’s kind of crazy to try and draw a direct line between illegals and this “polio-like illness”, it’s demonstrably true that many of the immigrants are infected with/carrying diseases that have not been a problem in the US for a long time. See: tuberculosis.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        I remember on TOS when the usual suspects were trying to pin every disease imaginable on immigrants right after the Ebola panic.

        1. Wait, are you saying the label warning that Immigrants are “Known to the State of California to Cause Cancer” lied to me?

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            That’s only for the ones with HPV.

        2. Chipwooder

          Oh sure, you scoff, but my dad’s cousin contracted Lou Gehrig’s disease from an immigrant.

        3. But will they turn the frogs gay?

          1. AlexinCT

            ^^^^THIS^^^^

      2. R C Dean

        Also, while it’s kind of crazy to try and draw a direct line between illegals and this “polio-like illness”

        I would say that depends on the epidemiology of the illness. Which I have no clue about, but I wouldn’t assume one way or the other until a real epidemiologist without an agenda chimes in.

        1. Just Say’n

          It should be noted that all legal immigrants (remember them?) undergo physical exams before they are allowed to emigrate. My father’s family was first denied entry when they showed up for the exam and one of his brothers had the flu. They told them that they had two weeks for him to get better otherwise they’d have to go to the end of the line and start the green card process again.

          But, of course, those rules shouldn’t apply to those who just ignore the rules. And then wealthy white people whose only exposure to immigrants are people who serve them in restaurants or cut their lawns wonder why legal immigrants are the ones most opposed to illegal immigration.

      3. CPRM

        My tuberculosis Friday nights…My smoking doesn’t go over at all.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          Heh one of my favorite scenes

      4. Take all of this with a grain of salt as I’ve never been to prison, am not an immigrant, and have no medical background, but my impression is that TB is an issue in prisons and jails to some extent. And I say this based in part on having dealt with a parole officer and noting the extraordinary number of signs about TB symptoms and management in the court house. So apparently it’s still a thing.

    2. Just Say’n

      Why can’t Fox be responsible and ask legitimate questions like “Does Putin fund the NRA?”

      See those are totally not just bat shit crazy fever dreams

  52. Good.

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/10/24/reversing_the_verdict_campus_sex_assault_cases_and_the_courts.html

    Fuck these universities. The only thing I’d like to see is the court ordering them to pay out their fines/settlements from their endowments.

    1. AlmightyJB

      “Jane filed a sexual misconduct charge against John, contending that she had been too drunk to consent.”

      Why wasn’t John too drunk to consent? Is UofM saying men and women are different? Shitlords! Burn down the campus!

      1. wdalasio

        Why wasn’t John too drunk to consent?

        It’s a question I’ve asked countless times, but never heard anything even remotely bordering on a satisfactory answer.

        1. cyto

          rape apologist….

    2. wdalasio

      The only thing I’d like to see is the court ordering them to pay out their fines/settlements from their endowments.

      Tack on punitive damages (which can get really expensive when an institution has a multi-billion dollar endowment portfolio), and I’m right there with you.

      1. R C Dean

        Nah. Punitive damages have no place in civil litigation, which should be about restitution, not punishment.

  53. Winded

    “The NBA continued playing games”. And Klay Thompson went for 52 points, setting a new record for most 3s made in a game (14), as Golden State scored the second most first-half points in NBA history (92.) Of course it was against the Bulls.

    1. Drake

      Ugh. Good reminder why I lost interest. I think I’d rather watch soccer than guys shooting 3’s all night.

  54. prolefeed

    “I, for one, am positive a Republican leader would get the same treatment as Hillary Clinton for saying that all black people look alike.”

    I despise Hillary, but if you watch the clip, she is being sarcastic, mocking the person who just confused Eric Holder for someone else.

    Perhaps the one thing I hate more than Clinton is political partisans trying to create faux outrage by acting like their sense of humor was surgically removed and taking obvious jokes or sarcasm as if they were serious remarks.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Don’t look up-thread, but there’s currently a Five Minute Hate for Sarah Jeong going on.

      1. Chipwooder

        Eh…..not really an apples to apples comparison, though.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I’m not sure I agree. While I’m no fan of her politics, I support the idea that turnabout is fair play. In the majority of examples that I’ve found, Jeong was either directly or indirectly responding to some twitter genius calling her a chinky-chink gook or some other nonsense.

          1. AlexinCT

            OK that is legit then. I was worried they were asking her if she would love them long time…

          2. grrizzly

            That was the excuse that the NYT offered. I believe the vast majority of Jeong’s vile, racist tweets were NOT in response to anti-Asian tweets. There were no retweet marks in most of her tweets.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            There were no retweet marks in most of her tweets.

            As I said, indirectly. However, that doesn’t change the fact that she was writing to a specific audience who was aware of the specific context in which she was making those statements. Fuck, we make comments about other people to our friends that could be misinterpreted all the time! “Locker room talk” is a real phenomenon. What Jeong’s mistake was that she made them on a public social medium – but Millennials are stupid that way.

          4. grrizzly

            I’m aware she was trying to blend in with the upper-white progs. Salam’s article was rather informative. It’s just I find the prog culture repulsive and, yes, racist.

        2. Just Say’n

          No. I’d say that Sarah Jeong got a pass for racist tweets in a way in which an Asian conservative would not have gotten away with the same tweets. Much like how Clinton got a pass for an obvious joke that if it had been made by the opposing party would not have gotten away with saying.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            A pass from whom? Of course her team is going to support her and the other team is going to eviscerate her. Just like the opposite if it were Malkin. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

          2. Just Say’n

            I think there is a difference in exposure and revenues between being employed at the NYT and working for PJ Media or wherever Malkin writes for now.

            The notion that Malkin would get a pass and be offered that much exposure is fraught. The difference is that only one is given a pass by elite society.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            I’m not sure what the tastes of “elite society” have to do with acting like one on the deep end of the autism spectrum and not able to recognize humor and irony if one’s life depended on it.

          4. Just Say’n

            Sarah Jeong’s tweets were so rich with irony and humor that nobody saw them that way and she never defended the tweets in that manner. Nor did the NYT say they were written with irony or humor.

          5. Just Say’n

            Both sides, though, I’m sure. I’m positive that if a conservative or libertarian writer had written similar things, even in jest, a major publication would stand by them and would not fire them.

            https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/04/06/kevin-williamson-atlantic-fired-hanging-women-who-have-abortion-column/491590002/

            Or not

          6. Heroic Mulatto

            “Nobody saw them that way” in the same way that nobody you knew voted for Nixon.

            she never defended the tweets in that manner

            That’s completely false. A simple Google search can tell you that. But if I must quote her, “I engaged in what I thought of at the time as counter-trolling. While it was intended as satire, I deeply regret that I mimicked the language of my harassers.”

            Mimicry and satire sound like irony and humor to me.

          7. Heroic Mulatto

            Again, I still fail to see the relevance of Williamson’s firing by the Atlantic to the justification of taking all statements from people we don’t like literally by taking the most uncharitable and humorless interpretation in all things.

          8. Just Say’n

            “Again, I still fail to see the relevance of Williamson’s firing by the Atlantic to the justification of taking all statements from people we don’t like literally by taking the most uncharitable and humorless interpretation in all things.”

            This might be because I never said that.

            The Sarah Jeong incident is pretty clearly racism and the argument of counter trolling (which is not necessarily satire or meant in jest) is to be accepted as fact without any evidence of the original trolling. It’s a convenient excuse to allow for a standard that would never be offered to someone with the wrong politics. It’s quite amazing that anyone would honestly suggest that this would have played out the exact same way if she had the wrong politics. We have a real world example of this with Kevin Williamson, who used a similar excuse for his single remark, as Jeong did for her multiple remarks.

            I’m not suggesting that Jeong is a villain or that Williamson is so or that Clinton wasn’t joking (in fact, I said that nowhere up thread). What I did say is that their statements would not be viewed as charitably if they were said by someone with the wrong politics. I really don’t know how anyone could argue otherwise.

          9. grrizzly

            “I engaged in what I thought of at the time as counter-trolling. While it was intended as satire, I deeply regret that I mimicked the language of my harassers.”

            That was a lie. Her racist tweets were written over many years. It was not a one-off thing. She never provided the offensive tweets that she allegedly counter-trolled.

          10. Heroic Mulatto

            What I did say is that their statements would not be viewed as charitably if they were said by someone with the wrong politics.

            Again, I ask, viewed by whom? There is not one official agency that stamps statements as humorous or not with their imprimatur.

            I must say that I think we’re arguing past each other here. I agree with you that there is a double standard at play. Hell, one of my most commented on posts on this blog is about that very topic! What I’m saying is that criticizing the fact that the Atlantic chose to fire Williamson but the Gray Old Lady chose not to fire Jeong doesn’t mean that we have to engage and twist clearly sarcastic statements to fuel our faux-outrage.

            That having been said, I’m sure a number of disaffected Kekistanis who frothed in rage at Jeong actually are on the autism spectrum and couldn’t interpret her comments as anything but literal. But I’m not autistic. I don’t believe you are. You know that I really don’t think white folks smell like sour milk (well, not all the time), and I know that you’re not a Korean-hating bigot who thinks they all eat dog. And let’s be honest, while Clinton has made racist statements in the past, we both know that, in this case, it was a piss-poor attempt at humor.

            If the Froschmäusekrieg that is P.C. requires us to fight humorless prigs by becoming humorless prigs ourselves, then no thanks. I’m a conscientious objector.

          11. Heroic Mulatto

            That was a lie. Her racist tweets were written over many years. It was not a one-off thing. She never provided the offensive tweets that she allegedly counter-trolled.

            You’re definitely in your rights to believe she is lying. I haven’t been convinced of that yet.

          12. Not Adahn

            A pass from whom?

            They same people who think Kimmel’s blackface is harmless, but Danson’s is a sin.

          13. Heroic Mulatto

            And when judging if something is humorous, I should give a shit about these people just why exactly?

        3. Heroic Mulatto

          Likewise, I have no problem with turning the tables on sanctimonious progs by playing their faux outrage game – but you need to do it with a wink. For too many, fighting monsters has led them to become one.

          1. commodious spittoon

            How dare you suggest I’m a humorless narcissist who takes everything personally.

  55. Just Say’n

    “The 14th Amendment protects the 2nd and makes it possible. Birthright citizenship allows for gun rights.”

    Michael Malice making partisan heads explode

  56. The Late P Brooks

    There’s a conservative black woman on twitter named Candace Owens whom I’ve been following for a few weeks now. She’s in front of this BLEXIT thing and she brings the kind of cable-news-show-ready eloquence and presence that Kanye doesn’t. Her rhetoric is a bit over the top for me, but she’s definitely saying things that have to have democrats shaking in their boots. I’m not sure whether it’s going to get big, but I’ve been following it with some interest.

    I ran into a friend yesterday who was telling me about blexit and Candace Owens. i had not heard about either before.

    1. Just Say’n

      I’m pretty certain that only white people pay attention to those things.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      You haven’t heard of Owens before because she has the physique of an ironing board.

      Omarosa is the one with dem hips and titties.

      1. Not Adahn

        Meh. I’d rather do Mia Love than Diamond and Silk.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Mia has nice hips herself, actually.

    3. commodious spittoon

      A black woman, over the top? Pull the other one, pal.

    4. Democratic Hitler

      Candace Owens calling out Al Sharpton:

      For years and years, your pockets have been lined by racist white liberals – so long as you worked to keep blacks upon their plantation. You stood side by side with racists and helped them to destroy our communities. At long last, your time is ending, coward. We are free.

      The woman aims to stir some shit up.

      1. Luther Baldwin

        Dayum.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    You haven’t heard of Owens before because she has the physique of an ironing board.

    She could iron out my wrinkles

    1. Tundra

      Sheesh, no kidding. WTF is wrong with you, HM?!?

      1. We’ve seen what he’s posted in the past. So really, that’s like asking what’s wrong with SF, only to a lesser extent.

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        I think we can all agree that she has a fivehead.

        1. AlexinCT

          You saying you wouldn’t tap that?

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Of course I would. Just to say I did.

    2. Evan from Evansville

      Daaaaaaaaaaamn.

  58. Michael

    I came across something interesting at work over the past couple of weeks. I work in IT, and a small part of my job involves providing support for mobile devices. In the course of this work, it is inevitable that you will need to open a web browser on someone’s phone to perform some routine task like troubleshoot network connection issues or configure MDM, and getting a peek at the tabs they have open is unavoidable. (I should probably forcefully disclaim here that I do not snoop nor care a whit about what people do on the Internet as a matter of principle unless HR suspects something and orders me to action.) Recently I worked on two devices belonging to senior level employees that had tabs open to “right wing” websites. This is in scare quotes because they weren’t anything beyond the pale – Drudge, Newsmax, etc. What’s remarkable is that I am in a blue state, in an even bluer city, and the industry I work in is absolutely teeming with social justice grifters. Obviously this isn’t indicative of some larger trend, but it was rare enough that it gave me pause.

    1. Is this a BYOD shop, or did these people actually make the mistake of using their work devices for that? What if they’d gotten an activist IT person?

      1. Michael

        They’re all company issues devices. Our team has a well established reputation for laissez faire provided that none of your habits are illegal or hurt productivity.

        1. “But how can we be employing Literal Nazis!”

      2. commodious spittoon

        What if they’d gotten an activist IT person?

        Fired and airbrushed from company photos.

    2. CPRM

      On the other hand, reading a site doesn’t mean you agree with it. Many of us have had tabs opened to The Root and Huffpo and Everyday Feminism.

      1. My tolerance for stupid is too low for reading the Root or EF. I wish my reaction were laughter.

        1. CPRM

          I stare into the face of insanity every time I do artwork for Sugarfree; reading the Root is like a Sunday stroll.

          1. Stupid and SugarFree are not on the same axis, CPRM. They may not even be in the same coordinate system.

    3. Luther Baldwin

      Maybe they were doing oppo research.

  59. A Fuggin White Male

    I’ve been thinking a lot lately… and I’m thinking that this supposed Democrat “enthusiasm” may not exactly translate into voter turnout. All this enthusiasm is is a bunch of screeching from the fringe of the party, mostly from the more bourgeoisie bloggers and verified twitter journos. I don’t think your average black guy is going to vote. I honestly don’t think your average hispanic is going to vote (Dems don’t necessarily speak to citizen hispanics, just illegals). You already lost the white blue collar vote. White suburban women – the new supposed bellwether demographic – might be disgusted with Trump as a person, but that says nothing about what they think of his policies, and “Trump disgusts me” still doesn’t directly translate into “I’m going to vote for Democrats”. I think a lot of the supposedly “disgusted” ones just stay home. I don’t expect any of these groups to vote GOP, but the Dems have no message, and I don’t think these groups honestly hate Trump enough to be motivated to get out and vote.

    At least one betting site thinks the GOP should actually be favored to keep the House: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/10/28/midterm-elections-betting-odds/1800052002/

    1. This reinforces my preconcieved biases, so I’ll look for an affirmation button to click.

      I’m not saying your wrong, I’m just saying I’m making a conscious effort to reign myself in at the moment.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I hope that one betting site is right but I doubt they are, although I see it being close. We’ll find out soon enough though.

      1. It would be interesting to get a survey of the optimism-pessimism quotients for visitors to this site. I’m a pessimist as a rule, but you guys make me look like an optimist a lot of times.

    3. LJW

      I hope you’re right and what I’m seeing is anecdotal, because I’m seeing a lot of my wife’s friends going all in for the Democrats and none for the Republicans or Libertarian. And not your old school Democrats, crazy leftist Democrats.

      1. A Fuggin White Male

        Interesting… where do you live?

        My wife’s friend tried to get her and all of her friends to go to a Trump rally when he was here the other week. They’re all immigrants.

        1. LJW

          Kansas just outside of KC. Mostly conservative to moderate population. We’ve been known to elect moderate Democrats in the past but the Democrat that’s running a tight race against the republic incumbent is hardly a moderate Democrat.

          1. Mojeaux

            Don’t the Dem ads have the stink of desperation about them?

    4. R C Dean

      I think a lot of the supposedly “disgusted” ones just stay home.

      Mrs. Dean is so sick of the constant barrage of negative ads that she probably won’t vote.

  60. Juvenile Bluster

    I have to say I’m amazed that CNN printed this. In the middle of an article from a bunch of people on the 2018 midterms (Alyssa Milano is included, y’all), they actually included this. Written by a black woman!

    On November 6, Americans will vote in the most important election of their lifetimes. At stake is the direction of our nation. Will we move toward socialism under the Democrats or towards a restoration of the civil rights and civil liberties traditionally associated with our democratic republic?

    I believe Americans want a continuation of a United States we recognize from our Constitution. Therefore, I am expecting a majority of people to cast their vote for Republican candidates. A vote for Republicans is a vote for progress and an affirmation of President Trump’s strong leadership.

    In the face of nonstop negative media coverage, President Trump has quietly checked off the accomplishments he promised to the American people. In fact, Representative Jim Jordan told a group of people at a conference I attended a few weeks ago the President keeps a white board listing promises he made to us, complete with where he made them. His office lists 289 checked-off accomplishments, so far.

    Meanwhile, Democratic leaders have jeopardized their midterm election prospects by embracing the left’s radical politics while waging war against the Trump administration’s successful record. The booming economy benefits everyone. Blacks and Hispanics are thriving, and the black approval rating for President Trump has reached a record level for a Republican president.
    According to Gallup, public satisfaction with the nation’s direction is at a 12-year high. And yet, since President Trump’s 2016 election, many in our nation have clamored for impeachment — which would essentially be a leftist political coup, something we just do not see in a democratic republic in the developed world.

    I believe Democrats have overplayed their hand. High powered leaders have encouraged confrontation and harassment of conservative leaders. Moreover, in the past two years, the American people have witnessed FBI corruption, the never-ending Mueller investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to win the 2016 election, the character assassination of now-Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the chaos and destruction fomented by Antifa activists, and the increasingly un-American behavior of leading Democrats at every level of government. Democrats in Congress no longer defend due process and the presumption of innocence. Instead, we see the politics of division geared toward dividing and separating Americans into warring factions.

    These actions are aided and abetted by a partisan media that spends its time demonizing our President while denying him his successes. Such actions are wrong for our nation and terrible for our children.

    I believe thoughtful Americans can see through the charade. Thoughtful Americans want to live in a society they recognize, not in a leftist’s counterfeit remake of our nation.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      The booming economy benefits everyone.

      Maybe it’s the evo pysch in me, but it always bothers me when people correlate the economy’s performance to a particular politician. Scratch the statement and under the surface you’ll find “We must appease the rain god through human sacrifice”.

      1. Tundra

        Kind of the way it is, though, HM. I’ve been in my current industry (industrial products manufacturing) for more than 8 years and I have never seen even close to this level of confidence. Not logical, but definitely understandable.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I’m not saying policies don’t impact the economy, but there is more of a lag than people realize. Pretty much anything Trump has done at the start of his administration won’t manifest itself in a visible way until 2020, at least.

          1. Tundra

            I don’t ascribe the uptick to any one person. The 90’s, for instance, had little to do with Clinton (kudos to him for staying the fuck out of the way). Dot com crash, then wars, taxes, and more uncertainty followed by 8 years of an anti-business dipshit. It strikes me as natural that smaller business (i.e. those who have no Washington pull) will immediately respond positively to a pro business agenda.

            Tax cuts absolutely helped. Reining in regulations absolutely helped. The Fed are still ridiculously in our shit, and I don’t see Trump even starting to meaningfully changing that, but the numbers (at least in my world) don’t lie.

          2. wdalasio

            Dot com crash, then wars, taxes, and more uncertainty followed by 8 years of an anti-business dipshit. It strikes me as natural that smaller business (i.e. those who have no Washington pull) will immediately respond positively to a pro business agenda.

            Sometimes, just the absence of bad news is good news.

          3. “I don’t ascribe the uptick to any one person.”

            But what about the *in*action of one person?

          4. wdalasio

            won’t manifest itself in a visible way until 2020, at least.

            Depends, really. The actual direct consequences probably don’t happen without the sort of lag you’re talking about. That said, some effects probably happen a lot quicker. People make decisions based on their anticipation of future events. If Trump made some business decision-makers more sanguine about their prospects, that probably would have had a much earlier effect.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            True.

          6. R C Dean

            Pretty much anything Trump has done at the start of his administration won’t manifest itself in a visible way until 2020, at least.

            Tax reform tends to show up relatively quickly – business pay bonuses and start hiring and buying pretty quickly. Its easy to see how tax reform will affect the financials.

            Regulatory reform, I think, tends to show up slower because it trickles down to the balance sheet as people start reacting to it.

            Regulatory agency reform, if any, would likely lag to the point of invisibility.

  61. Mojeaux

    I find it interesting that on both sides of the Missouri-Kansas line, the Dem candidates are throwing Pelosi and Clinton under the bus, explicitly stating they will NOT side with Pelosi.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Do you blame them?

      If I was running as a D in a district that was even slightly purple I’d run as far away from them as possible. Obama too.

      1. Mojeaux

        No, I don’t blame them, but I AM surprised. This is coming late in the ads because the Repubs were calling out Pelosi and Clinton early on. Hawley is ahead of McCaskill on the Missouri side. Don’t know about Kansas.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          We’re really overdue for a multiparty system.

          1. Mojeaux

            I’m not versed enough in history to figure out how this would play out. How do you think this would happen?

          2. kbolino

            I don’t think it really can happen now, at least not at the national level. A third party can’t win a Senate seat except perhaps in the smallest of states, but there’s no motivation for it there right now. Winning the House is more feasible but still extremely remote thanks to the large number of people in districts and a long history of the two parties gerrymandering the districts to their benefit.

            Then at the state level, the size and power of the federal government and thus the two major national parties (their respective national committees being somewhat ancillary to that) seems to have crowded out third parties there too.

    2. R C Dean

      explicitly stating they will NOT side with Pelosi.

      Does anybody believe them?

      1. Sean

        *insert Charlie Brown/Lucy football gif*

      2. Mojeaux

        No. That’s why those ads stink of desperation.

        1. Democratic Hitler

          …and cigarette smoke.