Coming Attractions and, yes, Saturday Night Open Post

Good evening, my dear Glibs. This is coming to you from [REDACTED] where OMWC and I are visiting RAHeinlein and family. I know, you wish you were us. Well, you aren’t. So we shall enjoy ourselves immensely on your behalf. We’re only doing it for you.

This coming week here at Glibertarians.com is–again–jam-packed with terrific posts from your fellow community members.

We’ve got your links, morning, afternoon, and some miscellaneous evenings, thanks to Sloopy, Brett L, OMWC, and possibly those SMITH boys and their compatriot, the giant floating stone head. Maybe even some relievers stepping in here and there.

On Sunday, we have Not Adahn’s informative (and sometimes worrisome) forecast for the week, and Web Dom is graciously moving over to the traditional Sunday afternoon food post time so we can run Gordilock’s account of a meeting with NYS LP gubernatorial candidate Larry Sharpe on Monday night. Earlier on Monday, Plisade stops by with a pondering.

Tuesday, Evan from Evansville takes us along on a fascinating trip and banginglc1 goes on another kind of journey.

On Wednesday, which happens to be Halloween, get ready for more SugarFree! The midday and evening spots are both his. If that doesn’t put a fright into you, nothing will.

Thursday brings an extremely useful post from defense attorney ElspethFlashman. You will definitely want to read this first part of a great three part series. Then, after BakedPenguin’s NFL Pick-’em, I have a little poll for you.

On Friday, Animal submits a report from the hunt and Saturday brings mexican sharpshooter’s review of the week.

Whew. What a line-up! I’m exhausted just writing about it.

OK, I’m heading back to the party. Try to behave in…the Saturday Night Open Post!

Comments

344 responses to “Coming Attractions and, yes, Saturday Night Open Post”

  1. Spudalicious

    Bam! First.

    1. Tres Cool

      Hardly

      1. Spudalicious

        You’ll notice that your post FOLLOWS mine. That makes you first loser.

        1. Tres Cool

          Times are the same. I demand a review from the officials in NY

          1. You lose, in addition to having terrible taste in music.

          2. Tres Cool

            You cant drink carbonated things. I dont need your advice.

        2. MikeS

          And I am the first one to actually comment on SP post. Suck it losers!

          1. Spudalicious

            It’s an Open Post thread, so you’re second loser.

          2. Tres Cool

            “to behave in…the Saturday Night Open Post!”
            Doesn’t count…no topic

          3. MikeS

            The topic was the hard work SP and everyone else puts into this site. For which I showed my appreciation.

  2. Tres Cool

    It’s sweet. It’s salty. It’s that 1st Theme Music. Now just HIT THAT ISH !

    1. Spudalicious

      Heh heh heh.

      1. Tres Cool

        go play with your hose, ketchup-dick

      2. Festus

        Mary Woronov and Jack Nance. That’s solid.

    2. Luther Baldwin

      Wow – haven’t heard that in a couple decades at least.

    3. Rebel Scum

      It’s sweet. It’s salty.

      That’s what SHE says when I have an appropriate amount of pineapple in my diet. . .

    4. Chafed

      Great music choice Tres.

  3. MikeS

    Very interesting, SP. Thanks for the rundown of the upcoming posts.

    FIRST!

    1. Tres Cool

      /apple-polisher

    2. MikeS

      I’m not sure what to make of this. If true, the guy was obviously a raging asshole…when he was 12-16 years old…23 years ago. Does that matter? How out of control is this trend going to get?

      And is it true? Maybe half-true? This is the guy running against Brother Keith for the Minnesoda AG, so (as always) politics are in play.

      Doug Wardlow, LGBT rights and the gay man he allegedly bullied in high school

      Durant said he met Wardlow in middle school shortly after his family moved to Eagan in 1991. He said Wardlow began taunting him before Durant came out as gay in eighth grade, and that the harassment continued throughout his first two years at Eagan High School.

      Wardlow was part of a group of students, including Kopp, who bullied Durant for being gay, Durant said. Kopp, who later came out as gay himself, has since apologized for his conduct. Durant said Wardlow was the “worst” bully of the group and has never apologized.

      1. MikeS

        Well shit. Sometimes the site acts weird. Hitting “reply” makes the page reload. Then I clicked for new post, but it posted up here. Is this what Trashy was talking about in the earlier thread?

      2. Spudalicious

        You know they’re desperate when they go back to your early teen years.

  4. BakedPenguin

    BakedPenguin’s NFL Pick-’em

    Yeah, if the tard gets ’em in on time. Good luck with that.

    1. Nephilium

      Here you go. A local column just gently ripping on the Browns coach.

  5. Count Potato

    “Using the description of the suspect’s age from the police scanner I was able to locate the social media of the shooter”

    https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1056203204638265345

    1. Count Potato

      “Incredible work identifying and archiving the social media of the Pittsburgh terrorist today, @nickmon1112. If you aren’t following him you are really missing out. Some news outlet really needs to scoop him up.”

      https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1056236711909515265

      Seriously, that’s amazing. How does he do it?

      1. Count Potato

        “I’m the most autistic person on the planet”

        https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1056203899873476608

        Oh.

      2. Count Potato

        Although, I guess he occasionally misses some things.

        “Today i learned Matthew Yglesias is terrible”

        https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1056276709325094921

        1. Luther Baldwin

          Heh

        2. Is Pumpkin Spice Sasquatch a poster here?

      3. Count Potato

        “Go check @nickmon1112’s timeline. This twitter user identified the shooter and his social media within secs and even before the Shooter could surrender! Unbelievable!!”

        https://twitter.com/DiaQueri/status/1056239643815890944

    2. Count Potato

      “GAB @getongab BANNED FROM PAYPAL”

      https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1056284136783142913

      1. Count Potato

        Notice they don’t have an actual reason.

      2. Count Potato

        “Just got off the phone with the US Attorney’s Office. We are continuing to help with the investigation into today’s horrific tragedy and have made every resource we have available in order to see that justice is served and law enforcement has what they need.”

        https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1056323997984387072

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I think I’m going to drop PayPal, they’re getting too preachy.

        1. Akira

          I’m thinking about that too… What’s a good alternative?

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Therein lies the problem, particularly if you accept payment from them for some reason (I only use them occasionally for payments). I need to check around.

  6. Nephilium

    So, seems an appropriate place to ask. Although I have a couple of submissions in my pipeline, is there any interest in a write up of the basic and easy steps for making your own hard cider, wine, mead, or beer?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Even if I never actually do it.

    2. Tres Cool

      Yes! Primarily cause I’m cheap.

      1. MikeS

        Nephi brews FAR more than I ever did, so maybe he’s gotten costs down, but I found that when I was brewing there was nothing cheap about it.

        1. Tres Cool

          Fine…Ill just go back to adding Prestone to grape juice

        2. kinnath

          Equipment is pricey. Ingredients are cheap. You have to make enough for the savings on ingredients to pay for the equipment. Or you make booze because you can’t buy what you like to drink. Then cost isn’t an issue.

          1. MikeS

            I never counted the equipment…chalked it up to necessary expenses of the hobby. However, I still was never able to make a batch that equaled Busch Light, price wise. I know, I know, the beers you guys (and me when I was doing it) make are FAR better than BMC. Still, for people who just want to make some BMC clones for cheaper than they can buy them…not gonna happen.

          2. kinnath

            Well, your yardstick may be the problem.

            I make sour ales and they don’t cost anywhere near the price per bottle of my favorite products which run $25 to $30 per 750 ml bottle (I am huge fan of Cascade Brewing and I brought 12 bottles from from NHC in Portland this summer).

            I don’t know anyone that is trying to make light lagers and beat the price of 30-packs of Busch Lite down at the gas station.

          3. MikeS

            That was never my yardstick, it’s the yardstick of a lot of would-be brewers. Not everyone wants, or even likes $25 per 750ml beers. Some guys would like to just make a decent Bud Light clone at home. And there shouldn’t be anyone telling them that’s stupid. However, they should be told it ain’t gonna be cheap.

          4. kinnath

            I tell beginners to make whatever they like to drink. Get good at it before you get crazy with wild new ideas.

            One can beat the price of almost everything by homebrewing except mass-produced light lagers.

          5. Nephilium

            Kegging cuts down on the long term costs (but increases the upfront costs), and I think I’ve manage to make a batch of my mild for under $10 (for 5 gallons, or $.25 a pint). But it’s a low ABV beer, and you can drink it all day.

          6. MikeS

            Wow. That’s really good. And that beer sounds good too, by the way.

            But my argument still stands; if you are going into homebrewing to save money on your beer consumption, you are making a big mistake.

          7. MikeS

            …unless you are currently drinking 750’s that cost $25

          8. Nephilium

            Agreed, if you’re looking to make something like a BMC lager (Bud-Miller-Coors), you’ll learn that they are amazingly good technical brewers. The beers they make allow for no flaws, and are very well made (for what they are). While I may dislike the beers they make and their business practices, I will never disparage their brewing acumen.

            And the Mild was made when I was figuring out the efficiency of my home brew system (I’ve since learned that the grain bill and original gravity will impact that as well), and it pulled a bronze in the first competition I threw it in to.

        3. Nephilium

          Well, assuming my kegging and brewing equipment as a sunk cost. I’m making two batches this weekend, one today, one tomorrow. One batch ran about $40 in materials (APA expected ABV ~5%), the other about $25 in materials (British Mild expected ABV ~3%). When I was brewing more, and reusing yeast, you could knock about $5 off each of those prices.

      2. Nephilium

        Well in that case, I have bad news for you. Beer is probably the most expensive one to make. Cider, wine, and beer all require much less material. But I can write it up, and look forward to all of the others complaining that I left out fringe cases 1, 2, and 3. 🙂

        1. kinnath

          Beer is more expensive than cider which is more expensive than wine which is more expensive than mead which is more expensive than beer . . . . . . .

          I teach a lot of beginners. This is a constant question. And the real answer is that beginner booze is generally cheaper that expert booze, because experts buy high-quality, hard-to-get ingredients because they know how to use them.

          1. Nephilium

            Oh, I plan on you for one bitching about anything I write up about mead or wine making. I’m sure I’m going to leave out some tip that you’ve been using for the past dozen batches. Most of my wines have been from kits, which are fairly simple (and the instructions are entertaining if you have any knowledge about brewing).

            Distilling I’ve got no real knowledge on, as it is illegal without a permit. I can comment on freeze concentration (which is completely different and completely legal).

          2. kinnath

            When I make wine, I use locally grown grapes (in Iowa that means I am thrilled to make passable table wine).

            When I make cider, I use locally grown apples, and I can make damn fine cider with heirloom pie apples and crab apples. And I planted 2 dozen heirloom cider apples in my back yard.

            When I make mead, I use all sorts of whole berries, fresh citrus from California (can you say blood oranges?), and single-variety honeys from around the country.

            My most expensive batch of mead was 15 lbs of Fireweed honey that I paid $14 per pound (cause its impossible to find that shit anymore).

            All grain beer is cheap in comparison. 😉

          3. DEG

            Sounds delicious.

          4. Nephilium

            Hell, I’m here in Ohio. We can make sweet wines, and specialize in ice wines (which you can volunteer at most of the wineries to get a bottle if you spend a night picking grapes).

            For cider (I’m not a big fan), I’ve grabbed locally grown and pressed cider (which is all over in Ohio).

            For mead, I’ve generally gone with locally harvested honey (there’s several apiaries around me). My first batch entertained a group of workers at Whole Foods (they had the cheapest bulk honey prices), as I bought over a gallon of bulk honey.

            What all grain beer takes is time though… the mash, the boil, and then fermentation takes much longer then any mead or cider making process I’ve ever done.

          5. MikeS

            We planted some grapes this year. Hope to have enough for some wine in a few years. Should be fun.

            What variety of apples did you plant? We’re getting an orchard going in our yard and I’m always looking for variety recommendations. Right now we have 1 Norland and 1 Honeycrisp

          6. kinnath

            Uh. I’ve been drinking so I’m not going to have two dozen old English and French names in my head right now. But if you remind in some future thread, I will get a full list. Right now:

            Kingston Black
            Herefordshire Redstreak
            Ashmead’s Kernal
            Ribston Pippin
            Foxwhelp
            White Winter Pearmain
            Callville Blanc
            Stokes Red
            Medal d’Or

            drawing blanks at this point

          7. kinnath

            So for labor involved:

            Mead is easiest (I am a no cook mead maker); however, working with whole fruit in the primary can be difficult

            Whole grain beer — for all the reasons you mention

            Crushing and pressing whole fruit — lots of brute physical labor. I can crush and press 4 bushels of apples in a long afternoon. It the same time frame as an all-grain beer, but it is a lot more labor.

          8. kinnath

            By the way, all concentration of alcohol is illegal without a permit. Fractional crystallization — freeze concentration — is covered under the same rules as distillation.

          9. dorvinion

            What the overlords say about concentrating beer

            https://www.ttb.gov/rulings/94-3.htm

            Cider and wine of course its not allowed.

          10. Nephilium

            There’s a reason I’ve avoided distillation. I don’t need to give the feds a reason to look around my house.

        2. Tres Cool

          My eldest sibling (who lives near you) made his own beer for a bit, so I heard all about the trials & tribulations of a ‘basement brewer’, from the exploded bottles to the rotten batches he poured out.
          To his credit, he did make some dope af root beer once.

    3. DEG

      Yes.

      I’ve brewed before, but I wouldn’t mind reading more about it.

    4. Spudalicious

      Bring it.

    5. kinnath

      I’ve thought about writing up brewing articles as well, but haven’t convinced myself to commit the time.

      I recently made three products that were new to me — three different versions of bochet (caramelize honey).

    6. MikeS

      It’s been a while, and I miss it. I made beer, cider and mead. Haven’t tried wine yet. I’d love to see articles from any of the homebrewers. You, Kinnath, robc…I’m forgetting someone…

      Show us what you got, guys.

      1. Nephilium

        I’ve been slack this year. Today was only my second batch of homebrewed beer, with the third being tomorrow (hosting for Thanksgiving, and I have some pride). I’ve made a couple batches of wine (which are generally easier then beer), and helped my niece make a batch of wine (she still has to clarify and bottle her end product).

      2. kinnath

        Here you go. This is now in secondary. I think it is going to be spectacular,

        Chocolate Bochet

        Equipment
        • A big ladle (I use a cheap 1-quart aluminum sauce pan)
        • 4-gallon kitchen stock pot (pretty much standard kitchen equipment)
        • 5-gallon kitchen stock pot (heavy duty used for brewing)
        • Patio Burner (High-Pressure, Propane)
        • Propane Tank
        • Long-neck lighter
        • Stainless steel 21 inch brewing spoon
        • 7.9-gallon Plastic Wine Pail (Primary Fermenter)
        • 3-piece Airlock

        Ingredients
        • 2 ½ lbs of Chocolate Nibs
        • 5 ½ lbs of cheap honey from Sam’s club
        • 11 lbs of expensive Meadowfoam honey from California
        • 5 gallons of water
        • 6 tsp of Yeast Nutrient
        • 3 tsp of Lactic Acid (88% solution from brew shop)
        • 2 packages of Lalvin RC-212 wine yeast

        Instructions
        1) Put 4 gallons of water in the refrigerator several days before brew-day
        2) Make Hot Chocolate
        • Light burner
        • Use standard kitchen 4-gallon stock pot
        • Pour one gallon of water into stock pot
        • Bring water to a boil
        • Add 2 ½ lbs of chocolate nibs
        • Reduce heat & bring water back to a slow boil
        • Boil chocolate nibs for 10 minutes
        • Turn off burner
        • Put lid on stock pot
        • Move stock pot to a safe location to let chocolate nibs steep in hot water
        3) Caramelize the Honey (this is somewhat dangerous)
        • Light burner
        • Use the heavy duty 5-gallon stock pot
        • Pour 5 ½ lbs of cheap honey into the stock pot
        • Bring the honey to a boil
        • Stir constantly for 12 minutes
        • Turn off heat
        4) Mix the Hot Chocolate into the Caramelized Honey (this quite dangerous)
        • Use a big ladle
        • Transfer one ladle of hot chocolate into the caramelized honey
        • This will result in huge plume of steam and hot caramelized honey splattering everyone
        • Stand way back, be very careful
        • Repeat with one ladle after another until all the hot chocolate is blended into the honey
        • Stir well
        5) Mix the hot liquids into the some of the cold water
        • Pour two gallons of refrigerated water into the plastic primary
        • Ladle the hot solution into the cold water one ladle at a time until it is all mixed
        • Stir well
        6) Mix in the remaining ingredients
        • Pour the expensive Meadowfoam honey into the warm liquids in the primary fermenter and stir well
        • Pour in the remaining two gallons of refrigerated water into the primary fermenter and stir well
        • Add 6 teaspoons of Yeast Nutrients into the primary fermentor and stir well
        • Add 3 teaspoons of Lactic Acid solution into the primary fermenter and stir well
        7) Take hydrometer or refractometer readings if you desire (my batch was 24.2° Brix)
        8) Sprinkle two packages of wine yeast on the top of the must – do not stir (I used Lalvin RC-212)
        9) Seal the primary fermenter and install the 3-piece airlock

        The must was at 81 degrees when I pitched the yeast. Chilling most of the water before hand is a really, really nice thing to do.

        1. MikeS

          Daaaayyyyum. That looks like work! However, I’m saving that for when (if) I get my brewing setup..well, set up.

    7. Mustang

      The nice thing about this audience is they’re incredibly eager to learn more, which makes almost any topic welcome.

      Just don’t get triggered when we immediately go OT. 😉

      1. kinnath

        Are we talking about guns yet?

        1. Mustang

          I think the better question is when aren’t we talking about guns, amirite?!

          1. Nephilium

            So shooting both of you is on topic, right?

            /hits the dirt as the windows get broken

          2. Mustang

            Technically correct, which is the best kind.

            Finally get to shoot my new Sig516 this Thanksgiving when I visit the in-laws. Pretty excited for that.

          3. kinnath

            My wife and I shot our new his-and-her Sig p938s last Wednesday. Awesome little pistols.

          4. Mustang

            My wife wants one of those as well. I will probably get her one when we get stateside for a longer period.

          5. Rebel Scum

            I think the better question is when aren’t we talking about guns, amirite?!

            We should always be talking about guns, Armalite

        2. DEG

          After I lost that gunbroker auction, I’ve been debating about bidding on other auctions or waiting for the next Amoskeag Auction.

        3. I don’t care how many of you say it’s a stupid platform; I love my AR pistol. It fucking rox.

          1. Mustang

            I would never disparage someone for owning a firearm of any kind, I guess I’m just having a hard time wrapping my head around the mechanics of firing it. Off to the videos to find out!

          2. Count Potato

            A .223 pistol?

        4. MikeS

          I wanna see some tittays!

          1. Nephilium

            Just thought of you MikeS when I went to grab my next beer out of the fridge. I saw a breakfast stout in there, pulled it out, and checked the date on it. It was from 2008. I’ve had far too much beer tonight to properly judge that, so it went back in the fridge. But I think I know what my second beer tomorrow will be.

          2. DEG

            Founder’s? It’s probably OK.

          3. Nephilium

            Oh it’s most definitely OK, that’s why it’s in the fridge. I mean it’s not Thomas Hardy Vintage Ale, but it should hold up.

            /hides his Trader Joe’s Vintage ale and Cantillon bottles.

          4. MikeS

            I really gotta get a sixer of that on Monday.

          5. DEG

            Fours. It comes in four packs.

          6. Nephilium

            Guilt works!

            /reconsiders Catholicism

            /goes to the downstairs bar instead.

          7. MikeS

            I really gotta get a 2/3 sixer of that on Monday.

    8. Nephilium

      Well fuck all y’all, I’ve started doing an introduction to fermentation article. Announcing it here allows all of you to guilt me into completing it and having the founders post it.

      1. CPRM

        Finish the damn article already, lazy motherfucker. (And in the earlier thread, I knew what you were talking about, but I hate smug type words, but thanks for the honest answer, that’s why this place is great)

        1. Nephilium

          Damn man. I’m only about half way through it. It’s on cider (which is my least favorite fermented beverage). And I want to make sure that those who follow the instructions will be happy with the results.

          And have I not mentioned that I’m a geek before? There have been multiple times in the real world where I started answering a question, only to realize the person asking it didn’t really want an answer.

          1. CPRM

            You pay attention to what the person you’re talking to thinks? You’re way less aspie than me. I have a hard enough time trying to remember their name.

          2. Nephilium

            I did time as a consultant, which meant that I needed to learn when to shut up and let the sales guy lie.

            FFS, I got sent to a professional advancement class that was: How to Communicate with Others. The sad thing is I learned some lessons from it, which has changed how I send e-mails in the professional world, which makes people think I care about their problems.

          3. CPRM

            I usually start off emails with ‘You fucking retard’ is that wrong?

          4. slumbrew

            “Should I not have done that?”

          5. Nephilium

            I learned things like:

            “I’m just following up” – is offensive, because using just means the person you’re sending a message to isn’t important.

            “Would you please call me at xxx.xxx.xxxx” is offensive because it’s commanding someone, not asking them.

            I’m scared by how much that actually tracks in a corporate world. There’s a reason I drink.

          6. Luther Baldwin

            Ha, I’ve been in the corporate world so long all that crap comes natural now.

          7. CPRM

            Ok, so then my mom will respond to my emails?

          8. Nephilium

            CPRM:

            Fuck, my mom still won’t respond to my e-mails. Mainly because she’s bitching about her iPad and how it isn’t working right (as she expects).

          9. Brochettaward

            Has she tried turning it off and turning it back on?

  7. Fourscore

    So, say a guy was gonna skip an afternoon/evening then you’d suggest Wednesday?

    1. MikeS

      If you’re not skipping it, I would suggest fasting for 24 hours beforehand. I know I’m going to.

        1. MikeS

          #beachbody

          1. Tres Cool

            #shreddiTheReddi

  8. Count Potato

    “Diversity of thought—the ability to think freely, have a different opinion, and challenge the consensus—is now a bad thing.”

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1056066575252381696

    1. Luther Baldwin

      If any future companies I interview at go on about “diversity” or any other groupthink that’s not directly tied to “making us more money”, I’m outta there. So I welcome this push to get it out of the way before hiring.

      1. slumbrew

        A Facebook recruiter keeps hitting me up and I keep politely giving a “I’m happy right now”. The last go ’round included “I would be curious to learn more about what might spark your interest in a future role” – I’ve resisted the impolitic “nothing, I hate everything your company does”, but I was sorely tempted.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          “nothing, I hate everything your company does”

          LOL damn but would that feel good.

          1. slumbrew

            It’d be a passing joy – she seems nice enough, I’m sure there are plenty of nice people at the office and this town is small enough that there’s no reason to alienate recruiters needlessly, even if I’m not planning on going anywhere.

        2. DEG

          Facebook and Google recruiters contact me every now and then. I turn them down.

          I interviewed at Google once maybe ten years ago? I can’t remember. I walked out of there thinking to myself, “If they offer me a job, I will turn them down.” They turned me down. The HR flunky started telling me what I needed to do to try again. I cut her off and said, “Thanks, but I’m not interested.” She blubbered for a bit and didn’t seem to know what to say.

  9. Chipping Pioneer

    [REDACTED], shit. I’m still only in [REDACTED]. Every time I think I’m going to wake up back in the Midwest.

  10. Count Potato

    While Laura Loomer was often crazy and wrong, she isn’t here:

    https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/1056287472718536704

    1. Count Potato

      One of the worst things about the Pittsburgh shooting is the ORANGE MAN BAD NPC response from the left. Accusing him of being antisemitic is preposterous. He is arguably the most pro-Israel President in history. Did any other President have Jewish grandchildren?

      1. The anti-Semitic and homophobic slurs against Trump are so demonstrably wrong that it blows my mind how many people buy into it.

        They really are NPCs.

        1. Count Potato

          He was for gay marriage 17 years before Barrack Obama. HRC wasn’t for gay marriage until after she left the Department of State.

        2. Stinky Wizzleteats

          I didn’t think much of that meme at first but it’s grown on me. It encapsulates the left’s automatic mental script pretty well.

          1. Breet Pharara

            Same here. It’s dumb name calling, no doubt, but at the same time it is amazing how the “programmers” say something and it gets repeated ad nauseam without thought. Trump is the most pro-gay Republican to run for President let alone win I can think of. He’s clearly not an antisemitic. I’ve asked people point blank how Trump is bad for black people. No one can point to anything specific despite me pushing them, but someone said he was so he is. At least you can say his anti-immigration stuff is racist to Mexicans, even if I think that’s a bit of a stretch.

            NPC is actually a good description even if it’s childish.

          2. Nephilium

            FFS: When I was in Denver, the GF and I got stopped by a gay rights activist who started the conversation (after we agreed to hear him out) with:

            With “you know who” in power, gay rights are under threats

            I pointed out that the president he was referring to was one of the first to be for gay marriage, and the first to wave a rainbow flag on the campaign trail. He told me that he would have to check on that, while telling me that I needed to educate myself about how Hillary was for gay rights forever and she should be president.

        3. Count Potato

          This is the guy whose election Obama colluded against:

          “I was heartbroken and appalled by the murderous attack on a Pittsburgh synagogue today:”

          https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1056233355753201664

        4. Count Potato

          “And a word to my fellow American Jews: This president makes this possible. Here. Where you live. I hope the embassy move over there, where you don’t live was worth it.”

          https://twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/1056219660444676097

          Christ, what an asshole.

          1. Luther Baldwin

            I remember when “free will” used to be a thing.

          2. Nephilium

            You just think you remember that.

      2. Mustang

        If victim is Jewish, then orangeman anti-Semitic.

        I don’t write code, but I’m pretty sure you could turn that into an automated response. If victim is [insert group] then Orangeman is [is anti- or -ist].

        1. Could use a CASE statement with every possible prog victim group.

          1. Far, far too long. It would have to be a SQL call to the database of victim groups.

      3. CPRM

        He’s so antisemitic he sold off his daughter to a jew!

  11. Knock knock. Who’s there? Tits!

    http://archive.is/EFH08

    Great collection.

    1. Spudalicious

      8 wants me. 43 wants me even more.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Sorry. They’re both taken.

    2. commodious spittoon

      I don’t trust your links anymore. Every time I click I get a terrible depression. I think they may be faulty.

    3. DEG

      #4 looks like someone you might run into at a bar and get shot down by.

      I’ll just take #31 tonight.

    4. Rebel Scum

      #1 and done.

  12. CPRM

    Mike S. I’ll have you know I got up at 4am, thank you very much! And I was restrained enough to hold off on opening the first beer until 7:30pm, that’s called self control.

    MikeS on October 27, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    That’s only because he just got up.

    1. MikeS

      Took you long enough. I was afraid you missed that sick burn.

      Also…you were up to something. No ‘Sconi voluntarily waits until 7:30 on a Saturday to start drinking…well maybe 7:30 am, but not pm.

      1. CPRM

        I was watching The Halloween episode of Best of the Worst.

    2. Nephilium

      I thought it was called a Smorgasvein and it was elegantly classical!

  13. Rebel Scum

    My alma mater had a horrible, atrocious, no good football game today. Many poor decisions and many, frankly, embarrassing plays. They defeated themselves as much as the other team defeated them. I’m talking penalties and failure to capitalize on on circumstantial advantages. The positives: Score-wise, not the worst loss this season. And we are pretty bad, but we are not the worst in the ncaa, even though we are 2-7 now. The odd thing for me is that I am not even a football fan per-say. But I have grown to appreciate it and I decided to support my universality’s team and watch the games. Also our soccer team is still pretty good (9-3-2 so far). So there’s that.

    1. Breet Pharara

      My team managed to lose to the fucking Zips (go ahead and guess what college that’s a mascot for) but is currently in first place, has beat multiple ranked teams and actually has a legit shot to go to the conference championship game in a power conference. Bizarre season so far.

      1. Rebel Scum

        Akron? They played a team with a very triggering name.

      2. C. Anacreon

        Yay for your team, which is mine too. Great win against Wisky today! Both my wife and I are alumni, and we hope to have our son attend there starting in 2020.

        We usually can’t make it to Evanston for games, but see them pretty much every time they play in the western US, and have gone to all but three of their bowl games starting with the 95 team in the Rose Bowl.

        If they do make it to the conference championship game, I just might have to go to Indianapolis. Cheap flights that time of year.

        1. Breet Pharara

          I thought I remembered another Northwestern person here. Yep I attended both the Akron disaster and the Wisconsin win in person so far. I’m probably gonna scalp my tickets to Notre Dame though. They just need to beat Iowa and they should be in. That game will be tough, but the rest of their conference schedule is really easy.

    2. Luther Baldwin

      horrible, atrocious, no good football game today

      Hey, I just watched one of those. Well, soccer. #1 Cincinnati inexplicably powerless against fucking New Jersey Red Bulls Jr. team. I was only hate-watching it to see those punks (literally – their oldest member was younger than Cincinnati’s youngest member) lose.

      1. Rebel Scum

        In my world of professional soccer there is the Richmond, Va team. They were, during my childhood when I was playing soccer, always good and would often beat the B-teams of the mls. I haven’t watched them for years, but (as suggested) I am getting back into watching sports. I recently discovered that the once great Richmond Kickers are now TERRIBLE, judging by the stats of their last season. Hopefully they improve.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          I’m glad I got to see my hometown Rochester Lancers play before that league went belly-up. The Rhinos used to be good too (only non-MLS team to win the Cup in the MLS era) but they’re “on hiatus”. I tried to like my new hometown NY Cosmos but they too have likely folded. Trying to like NYCFC but that outfit doesn’t seem to know WTF it’s doing. Oh well, at least I can still hate everything about the NJ Red Bulls.

    3. BakedPenguin

      My alma mater had a terrible game today, too. I’ve been listening to some appropriate music for the times. But I’d listen to that anyway, so…

    1. Count Potato

      That’s what half the comments are about. Who is she?

      1. Rebel Scum

        I don’t know but I wish I did know…in the Biblical sense of the word “know”.

        1. Festus

          That girl in the white shorts? I am intrigued and yes, I do want to subscribe to her newsletter!

  14. whiz

    This is coming to you from [REDACTED] where OMWC and I are visiting RAHeinlein and family.

    Hmm, I think I live in [REDACTED], too.

  15. Spudalicious

    Boise is up over Air Force 41-31 with eight left to play.

    1. FOS

      BSU’s convict orange prepares students for thier future arraignments.

      Moscow, otoh, has regal colors:. Black and gold. Go Vandals.

      1. Spudalicious

        So the Commies in Moscow are all about form over substance? How proggy of them.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Do they still have their outpost in Boise, or has that closed?

      2. Nephilium

        Black and Gold? Russian operatives identified.

  16. Count Potato

    Crap. Looks like Greg Gutfeld Show got bumped again. I hate when they do that. There is always going to be news because shit happens.

  17. Playa Manhattan

    Total blackout. My TV is on with the battery backup and the antenna. I can see the World Series, but no internet or cable.

    Does anyone have the score to the Cal game?

    1. MikeS

      2-2

    2. CPRM

      Pretty soon the school’s official answer to that will be that scores are literal violence.

      1. Chafed

        Perfect.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      My phone is almost out of battery!!! Can anyone get me the score???

        1. Playa Manhattan

          0 of 5 stars

    4. Rebel Scum

      Does anyone have the score

      I can make one up. . .fake scores for fake sports. . . (jk)

    5. Does anyone have the score

      Max Steiner has the scores.

    6. whiz

      Cal beat Washington 12-10.

  18. slumbrew

    Sox shitting the bed. I’m gonna look at one of Q’s link to make myself feel better.

    1. whiz

      Sox back in it, down only 4-3 now in the top of the 7th.

      1. Drake

        Now they are ahead in ninth. Hopefully Kimbrell doesn’t decide to stress test my arteries again.

        1. slumbrew

          Your lips to whomever’s ears

          1. slumbrew

            Well, that escalated quickly.

          2. Drake

            Let’s try to get some people out Craig.

          3. slumbrew

            My liver won’t survive this series

          4. Drake

            Dann good thing they padded that lead.

          5. slumbrew

            Jaysus, Kimbrel is trying to kill me. One more win.

        2. whiz

          8-4 Sox now.

          1. Drake

            And counting…

        3. whiz

          Make that 9-4, Dodgers bullpen falling apart.

  19. commodious spittoon

    Well, that was tasty but a little disappointing. I don’t think I caramelized the onions near enough.

    1. CPRM

      Did you wait until the caramel melted at least?

    2. kinnath

      Drink more wine then.

      1. commodious spittoon

        What pisses me off is the imprecision in ingredients. “4 large onions or 6 medium.” Well, my grocer stocks humongous onions and calls them medium. If they were larger they’d look like yellow pumpkins. So I’m trying to gauge whether my round stock pot is roughly equivalent to the dutch oven shown in the photos, and I think, Well, shit, I have way more onion than that. So I add butter. And I think the extra butter kept the pot from properly drying out and caramelizing the onion while it baked.

        1. commodious spittoon

          And in fairness, I bought swiss sandwich slices instead of gruyere. I’m not dropping fancy French cheese money when I’m cooking for my dumb drunk self.

    3. Count Potato

      Euphemism?

    4. Playa Manhattan

      Flavored lube is tricky.

      1. Count Potato

        I hear your wife likes bacon grease.

  20. straffinrun

    All you can eat and drink at Hooters sounded like a good idea. I’m seeing why it isn’t this morning. Don’t even remember buying this Hooters tank top.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      pics

      1. straffinrun

        OK. First one is a guy I found outside Hooters. Second on is a guy passed out next to me on the train.
        https://m.imgur.com/a/ycDXbWr

        1. CPRM

          The first one is you, just admit it.

          1. straffinrun

            I’d take it, but the glibs who’ve met me would know it isn’t.

          2. CPRM

            Oh, so you’re othering my interpretation of the world because I can’t afford to fly of to China Detroit Japan? Fucking racist 1%er!

          3. straffinrun

            The dude had a Wisconsin hat on which I why I talked to him. Thought it might have been you.

          4. CPRM

            I went to UNLV (until I went to another school) good sir. I’m a runnin Reb!

          5. Spudalicious

            So you really do look like an ugly gnome?

        2. Gustave Lytton

          That first one is less disturbing the longer I looked at it.

          1. Rebel Scum

            I think it’s a great costume.

    2. Nephilium

      Fuck the tank top, did you get the matching shorts?

  21. CPRM

    Fucking nerds who go off on nerd things unrelated to the nerd topic are terrible. Are Wolverine’s claws effective weapons in real life? Doesn’t fucking matter, his claws weren’t designed, they were a mutation (Yes, I know the adimantium wasn’t, but the claw design was)

    1. Tulip

      I now to this hilarious post. Brilliantly done!

      1. straffinrun

        BTW. I’ll make my cake later today. Pics up tomorrow.

    2. Akira

      Yea, I never understood the tendency of nerds to go off on debates about some detail that cannot be established one way or another.

      I remember some of my friends spending about an hour debating whether or not the Hulk has powers of regeneration, which led to a contentious discussion of what would happen if you cut the Hulk’s eyeball in half (would it regenerate and create a new Hulk?)

      1. CPRM

        Duh! Hulk is classic example of invulnerability, not regeneration.

  22. LJW

    Wow busy day been handing these (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/198/865/929.jpg) out all over FB.

    1. straffinrun

      Nice. #Virtuoussignal.

    2. Nephilium

      I’m sorry, I’m wearing this today.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Noice!

        1. Nephilium

          I’ve only had two people comment on it, both caught the meaning. It’s one of my favorite shirts, even if I have to explain the concept of Polis to too many people.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Yep.. I learned today, TDS is real

    2. straffinrun

      At least he’s sorry if she felt offended.

    3. Count Potato

      WTF?

  23. kinnath

    Now that the mediocre sour is done, I need to pull a great sour from the fridge. And then crash for the night.

    doc vidanye

  24. Playa Manhattan

    I don’t blame Madsen. I blame the guy who put him in.

  25. Brochettaward

    So, haven’t read all the hot takes on the Nazi attack. The timing is enough to make me start connecting dots conspiracy theorist style. Regardless, this is all too much for the media. They have a full on erection right now as they can:
    1. Make this about Trump
    2. Make this about gun grabbing
    3. Make this about restricting free speech
    4. Make this about how violent right wingers are

    1. CPRM

      Which is exactly what Trump planned when he commanded these attacks!

      1. CPRM

        I love this dual narrative where Trump is a literal retard, but somehow savant enough plan all these things and have secret code words to command his followers.

        1. slumbrew

          See, also: W, Bush 41, Regan, etc.

        2. Brochettaward

          Slate’s my favorite. Their featured story is “Look at What Trump Followers Do”. Right to the left is “The Suspected Shooter May Hate Trump—but That Doesn’t Make Trump Blameless” and “Synagogue Shooting Suspect Appears to Be an Anti-Semite Who Also Hates Trump”.

          At the end of a week of hate crimes in America, it’s time to let go of trying to prove causation and instead assess the facts that are plainly in front of our eyes.

          We don’t need proof, because it feels right, damn it!

          1. CPRM

            I’m somebody who has been making (I’d call them clever, but perhaps they aren’t) anti-Trump cartoons for a good bit of time, but damn they if don’t have to defend him from this idiocy. It’s almost like they are trying to make me support the guy.

          2. Luther Baldwin

            He only hates Trump because Trump isn’t anti-semitic enough.

          3. Brochettaward

            Trump forced Ivanka to marry Jared and convert to spy on (((them))). Even Hitler wasn’t that committed.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      He hated Trump…doesn’t matter though.

    1. Brochettaward

      Or 2014. Or 2012. Or 2010. Or 2008.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        The difference is that they’ve realized they can’t win the argument so they’re actively trying to suppress opinion and information. These are dangerous times.

        1. CPRM

          You know what else was a dangerous time?

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Kristallnacht?

    2. Winston

      I remember the good old days when the internet and Silicon Valley would give us the libertarian moment…

      1. slumbrew

        Turns out, people like walled gardens.

  26. Drake

    Just got home from a freezing cold and rainy high school football game. I had heard about the nutter shooting a synagogue. Now GAB is gone? What the hell?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Not gone, just under siege.

    2. CPRM

      So you’ve been at a football game for like the last 14hrs? Seems legit, let him in without a pat down.

      1. Drake

        I rarely look at phone or PC on Saturday.

        1. CPRM

          So you’re blaming the Jews, that’s what you’re saying?

          1. Drake

            Uh huh… Was the shooter Jewish? Or another Filipino gigalo?

          2. CPRM

            Both, racist!

    3. Brochettaward

      I saw CNN tying this to GAB. Didn’t realize that Paypal dropped the ban hammer that quick.

      How did we get to the point where credit card companies and payment processors do the bidding for the progressive left? There’s not even real pressure on them to do so. They just go all in willingly. In 8-10 years.

      1. Winston

        Long March…

        1. Brochettaward

          We’ve gone from “Obama’s critics are racist!” to common sense hate speech regulations. Soon, if we aren’t already there, anything that isn’t explicitly progressive and woke is going to be hate speech.

          1. Winston

            Very close. And the tech companies will do it even before the Progs pass any laws…

          2. Nephilium

            Hell, I’m willing to bet if I copy/pasted some of my old +5 moderated /. comments, my account would be burned down to negative Karma in less then a week.

      2. CPRM

        How did we get to the point where credit card companies and payment processors do the bidding for the progressive left?

        I’d guess since Progs shamed Theil for working with Trump and everyone One True Scotsmanned him? That seems like the natural jumping off point.

        1. Brochettaward

          I think the process started much sooner. Really, with Obama and the racialization of everything. All his critics were racist. Republicans were all racists. Tea Party? Racist. That really seems to be the starting point.

          1. CPRM

            But this specific thing, Paypal playing along to get along, people on both sides pushing him out for daring to try to work with Trump, I’m thinking that created more ruffled feathers for this specific instance.

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        It isn’t pressure by the left, it’s that the decision makers agree with them. It’s organizational capture by the left.

        1. Winston

          Classical liberalism and libertarianism fail again…

          1. Winston

            By that I mean the tools of a free society are being used against without government control..

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            As a libertarian I’m used to failure on the political front.

          3. Winston

            Things aren’t looking very good on a cultural front either…

        2. Luther Baldwin

          Well, the left controls the MSM and every company is deathly afraid of the bad press they will get for supporting free speech now.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Free speech is for Nazis.

          2. Luther Baldwin

            But you are right that the left has captured most corporate leaders too so really it’s six of one half dozen of the other.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Not just corporate leaders, but rank & file at many tech companies and lesser extent at other companies. That blurring between home and personal lives has extended to political views.

          4. Nephilium

            I’m disturbed by how many of my co-workers don’t have a work/life separation. My work has not given me a cell phone, so I have not linked up my personal cell to my work e-mail. Since my work has not paid for a company phone, my personal cell goes into silent mode at 11:00 and stays that way until I have to wake up at 06:00. A lot of my co-workers have linked their phones and accounts up to track everything (calls/chats/etc.). They don’t understand how I don’t get them…

          5. CPRM

            Hell, I don’t even work in the ‘corporate’ world but for some reason at one of my part time jobs I’m expected to monitor my email 24/7 in case they need me.

          6. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Unfortunately I see a decidedly unlibertarian solution as the best way of dealing with deplatforming and that’s enshrining political belief, whatever it may be, as a protected class.

          7. Luther Baldwin

            I just did 19.95 years at a NYC financial industry firm – all the woke stuff was really confined to HR (as it got bigger and bigger), and even then it was toned way down from what I hear about at the likes of Google or FB. Those of us in the trenches just rolled our eyes at it. Now, I don’t talk politics (or much else) at work, so it’s possible I missed some of the vibe but I don’t think so. So I think it definitely varies by industry.

          8. Gustave Lytton

            My work has issued cell phones to a number of people for work use. People insist on using their personal phones instead, forwarding their work number and such, because the phones aren’t refreshed as soon as the latest generation is released.

            Annoying as fuck because then the outgoing number is their personal phone but they won’t update their directory listing. And text messages aren’t forwarded.

            On the other hand, there’s a guy who uses his work phone as his personal one, and it’s not occasional use. I think he’s counted on his protected status to keep from getting fired.

          9. slumbrew

            They were never all that big on free speech anyway.

        3. Brochettaward

          Shouldn’t the response to lefties these days just be that if the Nazis are the ones who support free speech and the right to self-defense, then I guess I’m with the Nazis?

          1. Gustave Lytton

            No. Because all that anyone will remember is you voluntarily identified as a nazi. Push back and remind them that they are the ones closest to the Nazis, in both ideology and action.

          2. Brochettaward

            Well, that is the point of the statement, but given how dumb most people are, you’re right. They’ll just think I’m a Nazi now. Most of these nuts aren’t going to pick up on the sarcasm.

            I thought I’d use the word authoritarian in there to make it more obvious. But that’s really where we’re at. The people claiming to defend liberty are the ones desperately trying to restrict the most fundamental rights we have (I mean, they’re the first and second amendments in the BOR for a fucking reason), but telling us how evil the other side is for granting a massive expansion of positive rights (aka not offering enough free shit) and for maybe sort of kind of being against abortions.

          3. Winston

            Thing is in 1932 Germany your choices were either Nazis, Commies, Military dictatorship or exile. If things get that bad then we will face similar choices.

          4. Nephilium

            Brochettaward:

            There’s a reason I keep reminding people that the smallest minority is an individual.

            Thankfully, most of these “discussions” are with people who know me well enough that they can’t just call me racists, bigot, sexist, or misogynist. Hell, my niece was somewhat upset when she learned that I wouldn’t be upset if she was a lesbian (she’s in her early 20’s).

          5. Akira

            Hell, my niece was somewhat upset when she learned that I wouldn’t be upset if she was a lesbian (she’s in her early 20’s).

            Strange. We had a friend who came out as gay in high school, and none of us cared one bit, and he seemed a little flustered that his announcement was not met with hostility.

          6. CPRM

            So, about this niece…#hadto

          7. CPRM

            @Akira, it has was the same with guys I knew growing up that everyone but them knew were gay, they were more offended that no one cared than if they had been victims of actual hate.

          8. slumbrew

            he seemed a little flustered that his announcement was not met with hostility.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hb7T-S_jP8

          9. Nephilium

            CPRM:

            I helped raise her for a while, and she’s got a boyfriend now (who plays drums for the Cleveland Browns), but I’m trying to be a good uncle. You’re more then able to meet her, but if she tells you to fuck off, then you’ll have me and multiple acquaintances telling you it’s time to go.

          10. CPRM

            Neph, I know that place, I was just playing the role. If you look back on any threads you’ll see that I’m truly conflicted between wanting to meet a woman who has the same values as me and how they don’t really exist at my age, and the ones around that do are just a bit older than the nieces I have raised.

          11. Nephilium

            CPRM:No worries at all.
            My niece tried using that to freak me out (she hasn’t quite grasped that libertarians don’t equal Republicans). I’m entertained when I break down her preconceived concepts. I’m old, and have a shaved head, but I’ve done drugs (and can explain what is good and bad). I’ve yet to sell her out to her parents, and have told her stories about her mom’s terrible decisions.

          12. Winston

            she’s got a boyfriend now

            Well you said “if” after all.

            plays drums for the Cleveland Browns

            So memeable….

          13. Nephilium

            Winston:

            Of course she’s memeable. And I’ll back her up for any injury she inflicts on someone who annoys her. She is my niece after all.

      4. Drake

        They got VDare a few months ago. There must be other ways for readers and advertisers to pay.

  27. Winston

    The paranoid in me wonders if this temple shooter and mail bomber are Deep State plots to ensure Dem victory next Tuesday.

    Anyway if these events does cause that to happen then this is clear proof that history is very fickle and nothing is guaranteed.

    1. Winston

      And before anyone points out that Trump and the GOP are not very libertarian well the Deep State hates us even more!

      1. Nephilium

        The fact that even you are thinking that is somewhat scary (not that you aren’t intelligent), but it’s going to be a common conspiracy theory in the next couple of days.

        1. Brochettaward

          It’s been Over three years now of the left warning us about this with largely nothing resulting. Then right before the election, you get the MAGA kind of a bomber or maker of bomb-like things guy and a no-shit Nazi shooting up a synagogue.

          I have never really seriously used the phrase false flag before…

          1. CPRM

            Whoa! slow your roll. Those flags aren’t false. That’s just what (((they))) want you to think!

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            Occam’s razor unless evidence suggests otherwise.

        2. Winston

          Thing is we know the Deep State hates Trump and wants the Dems to win.

          I hate to think this since it implies things are really, really bad, also there are crazy righties out there, Trump is no libertarian and It shows my own confirmation bias which is not good.

  28. Winston

    So things are not good. The institutions that were supposed to save us from statism are working to give us more: schools, businesses, academia, technology, the media, the bohemians, etc.

  29. C. Anacreon

    Got this text today, I’m not happy that someone (Verizon?) is giving out my cell number:

    Hi, Chet! I’m Maya, a MoveOn volunteer. With less than 2 weeks until Election Day, we’re campaigning to build the Blue Wave in California! By uniting together we can end Republican control of Congress-will you pledge to vote blue on Nov 6? Reply YES & we’ll share periodic texts from MoveOn’s 668366 number about how you can make a difference. (Msg&DataRatesMayApply)

    I’m not even going to reply, because then the program would know I’m live, but if I did, I’d have some choice words rather than YES!

    1. CPRM

      Ha! Your name is Chet!

      1. slumbrew

        That first line was the very first thing I thought of.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Probably a robocall/text.

      1. CPRM

        That’s the best time to sext, I mean you’re only testing limits of AI, it’s like science and shit.

        1. Nephilium

          Oh, I spend my time singing invectives to those who spam call me.

          NSFW if you really needed the warning.

          1. slumbrew

            NSFW _and_ SF’d. Impressive.

          2. CPRM

            It’s really cruel to SF a link and then say it’s NSFW.

          3. slumbrew

            Pshaw, that’s barely NSFW (in any sense).

            this is NSFW, lyric-wise.

            this might also be (and is referenced in the prior link) – the concept is NSFW, for sure.

          4. slumbrew

            *re-listens to the Akinyele song*

            Wait, that second link is _totally_ NSFW.

    3. one true athena

      I got that one, too. From “Peter”. And considering how few places I’ve given my personal cell number out, that they know my actual name and cell number suggests Verizon or a pretty limited group of places sold it off. Fuckers.

      1. CPRM

        Well you can’t blame Paul, he’s with Sprint now, so he’s a total anti-Verizon nut! #PaulIsALiar!

    4. Ownbestenemy

      I received one of those. My response? This is a government 0hone and you are violating the Hatch Act. I am reporting this to the appropriate office while naming the candidate and your org.

      Usually get the following response: Sorry we will remove this number

  30. Winston

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_is_Over

    Cowen forecasts that modern economies are delaminating into two groups: a small minority of highly educated and capable of working collaboratively with automated systems will become a wealthy aristocracy; the vast majority will earn little or nothing, surviving on low-priced goods created by the first group, living in shantytowns working with highly automated production systems.

    Interesting take on the future of automation. I wonder such a society will be desirable or even workable?

    1. CPRM

      Automated systems as they are now lead to low skilled workers being paid more to oversee the automation than they would have been paid to do the job the automation actually does, in my experience.

      1. Winston

        I do find these two completely opposite libertarian takes on automation fascinating. On one hand automation will not lead to mass unemployment. Then you have Cowen and the advocates of UBI arguing that automation will make every except the bosses unemployed.

        1. CPRM

          I’m actual for a basic income (if we are to have welfare) but for it to be a means tested device only given to those who truly can’t…But that is off topic, yeah at one of my jobs it’s been harder to train new employees to make the automation work than it has been to teach them to do the job the automation does.

      2. Nephilium

        Having a job working with “automated” phone systems, people jobs are safe for quite a while. Until they’re less willing to work then the computer is to misinterpret shite.

        1. CPRM

          Even though I’m not actually in tech, it’s so fucking eye roll worthy with all the talk of ‘ai’ now adays. No, it’s not ai, it’s a program that was programmed to do what it was programmed to do. SMDH!

          1. slumbrew

            That’s not true for some things – the neural net systems that do deep learning aren’t “programmed” in the classical sense. They’re “taught” – feed a corpus and told what is a match and what isn’t, in the simplest case.

            But, yes, “AI” is over-used, but it _is_ a thing.

          2. CPRM

            But that being told what is a match is the same thing. It doesn’t learn on it’s own, it is being told how to compare X and Y, but what about Z?

          3. slumbrew

            Not really my area of expertise, but there is ‘supervised learning’ and ‘unsupervised learning’, so it can be said it’s learning on its own.

            You can see some of this where they’ve run image neural nets in reverse – instead of “find pictures of bananas” and giving it a bunch of pictures, they feed it static and tell it “make this look more like bananas”.

            You can some weird-ass results, but it’s there’s clearly “banana essence” in the results.

            https://ai.googleblog.com/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html

            Nobody taught it that, exactly, and nobody programmed that, for sure.

          4. CPRM

            But, where does it get the parameters for banana? Unless it is all A/V learning, from people completely unaware of the programming parameters, it’s still just the Turk with more sophistication.

          5. slumbrew

            it doesn’t get banana parameters, it just gets a “that’s right”, “that’s wrong” response to proffered results. _how_ it decides what a banana is self-directed.

          6. CPRM

            it just gets a “that’s right”, “that’s wrong”

            That’s what perimeters are. Like I said, unless these are coming from someone with no knowledge of how how the system works, it’s still a charleton’s game. I’m not saying they are intentionally biasing the results, but if that isn’t the case it’s just bad science.

          7. Luther Baldwin

            Yeah, we’re nowhere near actual “AI”. Real AI is like Skynet shit, i.e. end of the world.

          8. Gustave Lytton

            Ugh. I hate that, along with it’s cousin, making up new terms for existing stuff. I just want to robotically process automate a chatbot up their devops orchestration.

          9. Akira

            making up new terms for existing stuff

            Oh, is that how we got the term “data science”?

          10. slumbrew

            That is exactly how we got “data science”.

          11. Akira

            I find it pretentious how they add “science” to every single degree program these days.

            My local community college has a correctional officer program called “Correctional Science”. I saw a job listing the other day that mentioned a degree in “Paper Science”.

            What’s next, are they going to start calling plumbing “Toilet Science”?

          12. slumbrew

            “I am going to science the fuck out of this!”

    2. Akira

      I’ve heard this brought up a lot lately, sometimes as a reason that free market capitalism cannot be sustained in the long term (I know that’s not what you’re saying, though). I think there are a lot of other things to consider:

      – There will be demand for custom or handmade items as a luxury. Even now, most people pay a premium for things made “the old way” by artisans (clothing and food, just to name a couple).

      – With the increase in productivity and greater leisure time, there will be more demand for arts and entertainment. Athletes, entertainers, musicians, and writers will be in greater demand.

      – Throughout history, greater efficiency has sometimes led to more people being hired. There were fears that looms would put sock weavers out of business, but decades later, the sock weaving industry was employing more people than ever, probably because the lower cost made it feasible for average people to own multiple pairs of socks.

      – We might see a return to single-income households, a lengthening of the time that children spend living at home, and more people taking care of aged parents in their own home.

      1. Winston

        sometimes as a reason that free market capitalism cannot be sustained in the long term

        What do you think of the theory that free market capitalism leads to the lack of self-control that capitalism needs? Or the wealth it creates can fund big government and it creates a leisure class that doesn’t believe in it?

  31. Winston

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_tactics

    The term salami tactics (Hungarian: szalámitaktika) was coined in the late 1940s by the orthodox communist leader Mátyás Rákosi to describe the actions of the Hungarian Communist Party in its ultimately successful drive for complete power in Hungary.[2][3] Rákosi claimed he destroyed the non-Communist parties by “cutting them off like slices of salami.”[3] By portraying his opponents as fascists (or at the very least fascist sympathizers), he was able to get the opposition to slice off its right wing, then its centrists, then the more courageous left wingers, until only those fellow travelers willing to collaborate with the Communists remained in power.[3][4]

    So what stage are we at?

  32. Brochettaward

    Shouldn’t the response to lefties these days just be that if the Nazis are the ones who support free speech and the right to self-defense, then I guess I’m with the Nazis?

    1. CPRM

      It’s ever so tempting, but I’ll vote for Brewster.

  33. Winston

    How does this compare to Turdeau Jr.?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Grits

    The Clear Grits advocated universal male suffrage, representation by population, democratic institutions, reductions in government expenditure, abolition of the Clergy Reserves, voluntarism, and free trade with the United States.

    ….

    The Clear Grit platform was first laid out at a convention held at Markham in March 1850, which included the following planks:[1]
    The abrogation of the rectories, and the secularization of the Clergy Reserves.
    Retrenchment in provincial expenditure.
    Abolition of the pensioning system.
    The appointment of all local officials by local municipal councils.
    Thorough judicial reform, especially the abolition of the court of chancery.
    A great extension of the elective franchise, and vote by ballot.
    Repeal of the law of primogeniture.
    Abolition of copyright.
    The right of the people to discuss peacefully any question affecting the government or constitution of the colony.
    Election of the three branches of the legislature by the people.

    1. slumbrew

      Drunken woo-girls behind the local Boston reporter at Dodger’s Stadium. Good times.

      1. Winston

        Hugh Herbert would agree…

      2. Nephilium

        Fuck all woo-girls. They’re terrible people, unless you can scam them into paying for your drinkgs.

        1. Winston

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woooo!

          Woo girl’, a single girl who loves to go out partying and constantly shouts “woooooo!”.

          Um libertarian moment?

          1. CPRM

            Oh, I thought it had something to do with doves.

          2. slumbrew

            I have bad news for you – those aren’t doves.

          3. CPRM

            Fuck off 1%er! ‘I’m so rich I know the difference between doves and pigeons’ You make me sick.

          4. slumbrew

            That’s just my shitlord privilege showing, know about birds and shit.

          5. Winston

            Is Hard Target TEH GREATEST FILM OF ALL TIMEZ!!??!!

          6. slumbrew

            No, fool, that’s Hard Boiled.

          7. Winston

            Liking a movie unironically? WHERE MUH GLIBS GONE?

          8. CPRM

            Now we’re ‘Your Glibs’? You gwanna make us call you massa two?!

          9. Nephilium

            All right, I don’t think I’ve told this tale here… but back in the day I hung out in clubs.

            The staff new me and liked me, and they were all attractive. And they all made me clear purchases on my card three times. (Are you sure you want to buy this waste of a girl a drink?). The real fun came when whoo-girls tried to make us a target. I’d look around, see two friends and a bartender, and tell the girl she should order multiple shots, then start counting my friends (and the bartender) out loud. The reaction when the whoo girls have to pay the tab is always entertaining.

  34. BakedPenguin

    Waiting Room from Tres’ music link. (It eventually hit that.) Currently playing Misfits.

  35. Festus

    This is impressive and when the fuck did Allison Krause become matronly? https://youtu.be/1Yah0CqJqUM?list=RDAXW6VIq4LBs