Working Your Wood with McGinty – Building a Murphy Bed – Part 1

We finally got around to sprucing up our basement which doubles as a bedroom when my dad visits. He doesn’t do stairs all that well and since the garage and basement are on the same level it’s easier for him. There is a full bathroom down there as well so he has everything he needs. When he’s not visiting it doubles as an orgy room. Just kidding. Maybe.

 

While the basement is big enough to have a queen size bed laying around I always liked the idea of a Murphy bed since it would free up floor space when the bed isn’t needed. They make hardware kits for a few hundred dollars, and really only a few hundred dollars of wood is needed. However, I thought about it some and figured I could build it with just 4 bolts (3/8ths thick) and use some of the ¾ inch plywood I had in the back of my truck (that was supposed to go towards a different project). I did make a run to the lumber yard for some poplar, but if I had to buy the materials instead of using what I had I would buy ½ inch plywood for the bed frame and cut the poplar down to ½ inch thickness as well. Since the poplar is 13/16ths thick a thin blade on a band saw would do the trick in splitting it into 1/2 inch and 1/4 inch thicknesses. The leftover ¼ inch thick pieces would then be perfect for some of the trim work later on. Unfortunately, I don’t own a band saw (yet…) so I made do with what I had.

 

I started with the bed frame, ripping the poplar down to 2 ½ inches and cut to length. Then I used my super handy Kreg pocket hole jig (*sticks out hand for a kick-back from Kreg) and screwed everything together. No glue needed as the frame will get glued to the plywood:

This is a view of the foot end, and the two areas that are “notched” in are where the fold down legs will go.

 

After I glued the frame to the plywood, I used my super handy Makita track saw (*sticks out hand for a kick-back from Makita) to shave off any proud edges so that the sides of the frame would have a nice even surface to glue to:

 

Here is what the bed frame looks like with the sides glued on:

 

The other end is the head end, and I wanted some type of built in headboard that also doubles as a support for the mattress when the bed is folded up:

Other than a couple of screws in the sides it’s just glue holding the headboard and the brackets to the frame. The mattress we bought is really light (20 pounds?) so this is plenty strong.

 

Also, I glued a piece of scrap I had that was ripped to 45 degrees to brace the corners which are also just glued together:

For the case, the ¾ inch plywood is definitely needed as this will support the head end of the bed when it’s down, and the entire thing when it’s folded up.

 

I cut dadoes on the sides where the back will attach with my super handy Makita compact router (*still waiting on my kick-back Makita!) then pre-drilled holes to make it easier to glue and screw to the back:

I still managed to get glue all over the place while trying to attach the sides to the back. A nice, slow drying, gel type of glue would be awesome (*sticks out hand for a kick-back from Tite-Bond for the genius idea) as the regular wood glue just ran down the sides in the few minutes it took to assemble it. Perhaps construction adhesive for subfloors or even liquid nails might work better here (*retracts empty hand). Hopefully I’ll remember that next time.

 

Here is the case with the sides attached:

 

The top was glued all around, but just screws on the sides. The clamps really made for a nice, solid fit:

 

So after the case was built I took out my tape measure to check that the inside was big enough:

63 ½ inches.

 

Next I checked the width of the frame:

61 ½ inches. Huh. So I’m off an inch and a half. I’m not sure where I gained this extra inch and a half, but it’s a hell of a lot better than being an inch and a half short.

 

So I decided some wood blocks that go where the bolts mount the frame to the case would do the trick:

 

So here it is assembled in the up and down position:

There is a lot of trim work still to do and some kind of safety latch to hold it in the upright position is needed, so I will save that for part 2.

Comments

258 responses to “Working Your Wood with McGinty – Building a Murphy Bed – Part 1”

  1. Tres Cool

    #Wood

  2. Sensei

    Nice! Glad I’m not the only one who measures multiple times and still manages to mismeasure something.

    1. I. B. McGinty

      I could measure 5 times and write it down and still get it wrong.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I’m doing window trim on 3/4″ windows right now, measure twice, still cut 5 times to get it right.
        /Very tiny house…….

        1. juris imprudent

          and getting smaller with every cut!

      2. mikey

        I’ve cut it twice and it’s still too short.

      3. Galt1138

        I ran into the same thing building some shelves. Much simpler than what you’re doing (which made it even more annoying).

        Looks cool so far. Thanks for sharing!

    2. Russian proverb: Measure seven times, cut once.

      1. MikeS

        I knew Ted was a Russian bot.

      2. Tres Cool

        In Soviet Russia, wood cut you!

    3. Florida Man

      I came here to say just that. Also I think makita makes a fine product. (Wood also like some money)

  3. SP

    Wow, this is quite a project.

    Looks great so far!

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks SP!

      1. Florida Man

        My wife has an extra ticket to Elton. I think she wants me to go. 🙁

        1. Florida Man

          That is supposed to be for Ted.

  4. Yusef drives a Kia

    Very Creative! no kits, just good wood working skills!
    Bravo!

    1. Count Potato

      Yes, I couldn’t do that.

    2. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Yusef! It’s all techniques I have done before but not at this scale.

  5. Don Escaped Texas

    Kick ass. I’m looking forward to see your approach to finish.

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Don! I’m looking forward to it as well! Actually I plan on cutting some of the poplar down to 1/4 inch thickness and trying to give it a shaker cabinet look. Lots to figure out still.

      1. Just don’t cut out a load-bearing wall to store it!

      2. Don Escaped Texas

        Well, stain or paint; I’ve worked in that business and get a kick out of seeing my old products being used.

        1. I. B. McGinty

          Ha! Yeah that sailed over my head. I’m going to paint it once I get the trim work all done.

  6. Sean

    You have mad skills.

    ?

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Sean!

  7. Don Escaped Texas

    OT but I’ve got to get this in.

    BOS in five

    but I hate hate hate the AL and the DH as I’ve ranted about many times before.

    I hate LAD, but not even on the same order of magnitude as my loathing of the AL.

    and now to print out my custom score cards so I can record every bit of this mess, win or lose.

    1. Galt1138

      I’m hoping for a 6 or 7 game series. But, I’m biased (I work at Fox Sports).
      I’m just happy it wasn’t Brewers vs Astros.

  8. Florida Man

    Why is there an open space at the foot of the bed?

    1. I. B. McGinty

      There will be a piece of plywood that goes there that will connect the two legs that fold down.

      1. Florida Man

        Ah

    2. Tres Cool

      For the hooker.
      Duh.

      1. I. B. McGinty

        I like your answer better!

  9. Count Potato

    “A nice, slow drying, gel type of glue would be awesome”

    What kind of glue would you recommend to fix a wooden chair?

    1. Tundra

      Wood glue is fine.

      1. Florida Man

        Flex seal glue. The commercial told me so.

    2. I. B. McGinty

      Depends on what part is broken? If it just needs to be reglued wood glue is fine. If it’s a small decorative piece crazy glue would work.

      1. Count Potato

        I think they are called spindles? It looks like it was built by making a cut across the diameter, then hammering a shim in that slot.

        1. I. B. McGinty

          A little dab of wood glue should hold the wedge in place.

          1. Count Potato

            OK, thanks. I’m wood illiterate. But please let me know if you have any electronics questions.

  10. Tundra

    I love my Kreg jig. Very, very useful.

    Nice job on the bed! Instead of the wood blocks, maybe some ‘pucks’ made from nylon might be a good solution.

    Are you planning to stain?

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Tundra! I’m going to paint it white. The basement will get painted in gray, or whatever my wife wants.

      1. Tundra

        Good! Poplar is a motherfucker to stain.

        1. Tundra

          Christ.

          That’s really accurate.

        2. Luther Baldwin

          LOL – what is that movie?

          1. mindyourbusiness

            Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House, I think – Cary Grant as the male lead. Funny movie.

          2. Luther Baldwin

            Neat, thanks. I’ll look for it.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Yes it is, and who cares about Cary Grant? It’s a Myrna Loy movie. And wood.

          4. It’s 70 years old, but it’s still funny because it’s true, as anybody who’s built or renovated can tell you.

    2. MikeS

      maybe some ‘pucks’

      It’s always about hockey with you, isn’ tit?

      1. Tundra

        Fine.

        Large round spacers, then.

        1. I. B. McGinty

          I did put some flat washers in between to act as a bearing but I needed the wood block to help hold some of the trim later.

          1. Tundra

            Ah, gotcha.

      2. Florida Man

        I was reading today how old timers used to use hockey pucks as spacers for a body lifts.

        1. Tres Cool

          Worst tit job. Ever.

          1. Florida Man

            They do weird stuff in cold places

          2. MikeS

            Says the guy named “Florida Man”

          3. Florida Man

            I can’t help that we have a large enough population to contain reporters. You low population state people get away with it because no one is around. I can’t wiggle my bean in public with 10 camera phones clicking on.

          4. MikeS

            Hmmm….I guess I can’t really argue that point.

          5. Gustave Lytton

            They do weird stuff in cold places

            But the queerest they ever did see
            Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
            I cremated Sam McGee.

  11. MikeS

    Looks real good so far. So are you going to recess it, or I suppose build the wall out around it? Shelving on either side or something like that?

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Mike! The right side will have a mini closet and drawer unit. Someplace for my dad to put his luggage.

      1. MikeS

        Ah yes, good idea. But, you should say armoire, it’s classier. 😉

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          the correct term is Commode
          /Kings English….

          1. MikeS

            uh…

        2. I. B. McGinty

          Duly noted.

          1. MikeS

            And don’t let Yusef visit. Apparently, he’ll shit in it.

          2. I. B. McGinty

            Maybe that’s what they do out there. ?

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Yusef is Sandy?

    1. MikeS

      Patrick introduces himself to new people he meets as “Gov. Deval Patrick,” a title he last held in 2015.

      So they found someone to challenge Obama’s narcissism. Great.

      1. juris imprudent

        Another damn Dem borrowing from Reagan.

        1. MikeS

          Did the Gipper do that, too? Seriously?

          1. juris imprudent

            He left office in ’74 (and Moonbeam won his first stint).

          2. MikeS

            And he introduced himself to people as Governor Reagan until 1981?

    2. Luther Baldwin

      What he had in Chicago was a real community, he said. When you had a stake in your neighbors’ dreams and struggles, and they had one in yours. When each adult was responsible for each child, and people were wholly devoted to common interests.

      Good lord. I can’t make it past the 2nd paragraph. What a creepy fucking commie.

      1. mikey

        Sounds just like Pat Buchanan reminiscing about his old Baltimore.

        1. Luther Baldwin

          people were wholly devoted to common interests

          I just can’t get past that clause. They make it sound so breezy and wholesome, rather than the soul-crushing evil it is. It’s just self-evident that everything bad about Chicago is caused by people selfishly pursuing their own interests.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        BOW!

    3. Rebel Scum

      Standing in a church hall this month, Deval Patrick scanned the faces at the get-out-the-vote rally and took them back to his childhood in Chicago’s South Side and the private school experience that changed him.

      So they think another Chicago machine pol is the way to go? Well, if you say so. Honestly I think Betoa O’Rourke would have a better shot.

      1. juris imprudent

        childhood in Chicago’s South Side and the private school experience that changed him

        WTF?

        1. Tundra

          You can’t make it up.

        2. Rebel Scum

          I didn’t read that far. Elite pretend is as elite pretend does.

    4. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

      Blech….”BuzzFeed News”

      It’s almost the perfect form of proof for the Left to admit, “Yeah, Trump is right about the news media these days…”

  12. Rebel Scum

    @BruceBartlett
    Follow Follow @BruceBartlett
    More
    Key differences between Donald Trump and Adolph Hitler–Hitler served honorably in the military, Trump didn’t; Hitler was faithful to his wife, Trump cheated on all his wives; Hitler wrote a book, Trump’s were all ghostwritten.

    Perusing the evening links, I come across this. I was initially perturbed by it, but I realized that I truly do not know what is real and what is parody anymore. Is it possible that Trump got leftists to call Adolf Hitler “honorable” because he was relatively innocent before he was a dictator while also being the same people who would claim that it would be moral to kill baby Hitler before baby Hitler grew up to be dictator Hitler if one could somehow have knowledge of a possible future and even though baby Hitler was innocent? Jebus titty-fucking christ…

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re saying they’d rather have Hitler than Trump. Which is all you need to know about them.

    1. MikeS

      Ismailoğlu
      ‏ @IsmailogluFatih
      Replying to @ianbremmer

      Here’s the difference. Most of those “journalists” imprisoned in Turkey were arrested for serious crimes like murder (one of them murdered a police officer), aiding and abetting terror orgs, espionage and so forth. They were not arrested for their journalistic prowess.

      Oh, well then. Nevermind.

  13. Spudalicious

    Great start, I. B.! I look forward to seeing the finished product.

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Spud! That will be in part 2, probably after Christmas. I am almost done with a picnic table and will submit that article next month.

    1. Count Potato

      Did you say “It’s Time”?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGHdGXg0vE

        1. juris imprudent

          I was thinking you might have gone here with that.

          1. Tres Cool

            Coming from Minnesota, he probably meant The Time .

          2. Tundra

            Jerome Benton is one of the nicest human beings I’ve ever met.

            Great song!

      1. Tres Cool

        So you’re saying that the time has come ?

          1. Tres Cool

            +1,000
            I completely forgot about that song

    2. juris imprudent

      The Bruce!

    3. I. B. McGinty

      Now I have “peanut butter jelly time” stuck in my head.

    1. Tundra

      Damn. That’s nice.

      $5k reserve?

      1. It’s a little steep, but pretty low miles for an 18 year old car and cosmetically it looks good.

        1. Tundra

          Yeah, if everything functions it’s worth 5k all day long. Gotta ship it, though,

          After the other thread, I was thinking that maybe an Xterra would fit, too.

          1. kinnath

            Late to the party, but if you are still hanging around . . . .

            I picked up a brand new Xterra in June of 2002. I drove it until I bought a new Xterra in November of 2015. My daughter has been driving the 2002 since then. So 16 years and around 150K miles on the 2002. Still runs great. Only minor rust on the exterior (I paid for good undercoating when I bought it new).

            I love the 2014 Xterra (on sale in 2015) that I am driving now.

            I have never owned a Jeep. So I cannot compare. But I am a huge fan of the Xterra.

      2. Tres Cool

        89K original?
        Hellz yaw

  14. Mojeaux

    I am so jelly. Beautiful, I.B.!

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Mojeaux! I think you recently said you’re a tool junky? I am as well. I’ve managed to hold off on buying tools until I actually need it, but if my lottery ticket hits…

      1. Mojeaux

        If I had money and time, I’d take up woodworking. I am a seamstress, and I don’t see carpentry as any different a skillset. Just different materials and tools.

        1. Tundra

          And messier.

          Sometimes fewer digits, too.

          1. Florida Man

            Less beer drinking.

          2. Tundra

            Depends on the tools.

          3. Mojeaux

            I don’t have any close call stories like you guys the other night. I wear gloves, steel-toed boots, and am very, very careful.

            I have stuck myself with sewing needles before, though.

          4. Tundra

            I wear gloves, steel-toed boots,…

            Hawt.

            Just no gloves for rotary tools, ok?

          5. Tres Cool

            *cough*
            thimble
            *cough*

          6. Mojeaux

            I hate using thimbles.

          7. MikeS

            What would you say if a guy who lost two toes said he hated wearing steel toes?

          8. Mojeaux

            “You do you, dude.”

          9. MikeS

            Ha-ha. Fair enough.

      2. Mojeaux

        I.B., here is my cabinetry pinboard. I would love to be able to build some of these things.

        1. I. B. McGinty

          Wow! There are some complicated pieces in there.

        2. Suthenboy

          I like. A lot.

  15. mikey

    Nice work McGinty. I’ve always thought woodworking projects look at least as good under construction as they do when finished. Something about the fresh wood and the visible structure and joinery.

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Mikey! Aside from the finished product I think that’s what I enjoy most – making all of the pieces out of some regular pieces of wood.

  16. Tulip

    That is really cool.

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Tulip!

  17. Tres Cool

    “They’re saying they’d rather have Hitler than Trump. Which is all you need to know about them.”

    So much that. This is a group of people, who collectively, wish for a solid authoritarian regime. They would probably accept a monarchy, given the way they worshipped at the altars of both Hillary and Obama. But in their contorted world-view and fever dreams, the oppressed are always going to be ‘someone else’, and they wont be inconvenienced. They long to be party favorites, and passed around like Christine Ford alleged she was, in hopes that it insulates them from the inevitable gulag that awaits their ‘deplorable’ country men & women.

    It’s reverse-psychology for the MegaMillions or PowerBall, with the TrueBelievers® that just know this ticket is the one, and they wont ever work again.

    /drunken rant off

    1. Anyone who is skeptical of TDS need only read that guy’s tweet and know that it’s real.

    2. MikeS

      given the way they worshipped at the altars of both Hillary and Obama.

      And while anecdotal and a very small sample size, from what I see, it’s the lefties always fawning over the British royal family. I think they absolutely would like to be ruled by a monarchy. As long as said monarchy was very woke.

      1. Tundra

        I’d get drunk with the Queen Mum. She seems pretty cool.

        1. MikeS

          She and Philip do seem cool (in their own different ways). And actually, Chucky’s boys seem alright, too. Especially the younger one. I’d love to have a beer with him and hear some of his stories.

        2. Count Potato

          She fixed trucks during WWII.

          1. Tundra

            She strikes me as the kind of chick who could probably fix trucks today.

          2. Tres Cool

            She’s likely more native DNA than Lizzie Warren

        3. SP

          The Queen Mum (Mother of the Queen), also named Elizabeth, died at 101 in 2002. My British friends loved her. She was a tough old gal.

          The current Queen, is just the Queen. Who is also a tough chick, apparently. But her kids are disasters. Some of the grandkids seem to be better. But who knows, and really, who cares. We fought a war so we wouldn’t have to care.

  18. Michael

    This is super rad. I love seeing top notch craftsmanship like this.

    On a totally unsolicited brain fart note, I’m envisioning some sort of canopy panel that tilts upward while the bed is opened and acts as a concealing panel when closed. It could be driven by a belt and pulley system to work in sync, but I’m a little bit too stoned right now to think hash out any details.

    Nice work!

    1. Tundra

      …think hash…

      Amen.

      1. Michael

        Great, now I’m gonna obsess over that typo all night.

    2. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks! I would say my mistakes are becoming less and less, with the only one being the measuring error above. I’m paying more attention to setting up the tools properly so that helps.

    1. Tres Cool

      Thats like >900 level trolling

      1. Spudalicious

        Oww. I read the replies and the stupid was so painful that I lost brain cells.

    2. Akira

      Good god, that was righteous.

      1. Tres Cool

        Yo homie:
        I think you mentioned something about Grappa:

        MOLETTO GRAPPA D’NEBBIOLO $36.43 $21.99 750 mL (Fifth)

        I gotchu, fam:
        https://www.dayton.com/news/ohio-liquor-stores-offering-deep-discounts-700-types-booze/B1raZCEL5CwS9No6eIHgSL/

        1. Akira

          Aw sweet! I might have to hit up some liquor stores this weekend. Thanks!

          1. Tres Cool

            I only know that Hemingway drank it. Let me know how it works out if you score some.

          2. Florida Man

            If I had a still I think I would make my own absinthe, since you can’t get the real deal anymore.

    3. Tundra

      Lightworker forgot that the interwebz are forever.

    4. Florida Man

      Elections have consequences. That’s why I voted on Monday to keep his ilk out.

    5. Michael

      I’m struggling with trying to recall any such asylum seeking migrant caravan of ~1,000 people ever taking place during previous administrations. Somebody help me out here, please.

      1. Brochettaward

        They aren’t new. They’ve simply been ignored which is exactly what would be happening right now if the media weren’t like a cat chasing after laser Trump’s laser pointer.

        I don’t even know how dumb the people at CNN are to think that most Americans care if Trump has proof of MS-13 and terrorists being in this caravan. Like this fact check will be the fact check that will end him. Not, you know, make most Americans realize that you have thousands of migrants coming across the border completely un-vetted.

    6. Brochettaward

      Dear god the comments. Lefties acting like Trump owned himself by showing that Democrats really aren’t for open borders.

    7. CPRM

      I distinctly remember the debate where Obama out right-winged John McCain on the budget. The man said what ever it took to get him power.

  19. straffinrun

    Very cool. You’d think the Murphy bed would be popular here given the lack of space in most houses.

    1. Florida Man

      You just store crap under the tatami mats or whatever they’re called.

    2. Tres Cool

      +1 Murphy-San

    3. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks Straff! I’ve always thought they were cool but don’t really know why. It seems like a great idea.

  20. Playa Manhattan

    Good stuff. What jig do you use for pocket joints? Kreg?

    1. I. B. McGinty

      Thanks! Yeah I have a Kreg pocket hole jig. I’ve used it a few other times, but it seemed like a logical choice for this project.

  21. Brochettaward

    I have some wood for you to work with.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      He needs something straight and not full of knots.

      1. Tres Cool

        I see you’ve been to Lowe’s recently, too

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Eh. Even if they claim that the board is finger joined, it isn’t. You have to do it yourself.

      2. egould310

        I’m already board with this.

        1. Tres Cool

          You wood be

        2. l0b0t

          I pine for this kind of camaraderie but I’m not that poplar.

          1. Akira

            It really goes against my grain when our discussions dovetail into silly puns.

          2. Jarflax

            You nailed it, things today are all screwed. I pine for the days when people really pegged their work.

          3. Brochettaward

            How do you think I feel? I just wanted to talk about my penis.

          4. egould310

            What a dick.

          5. CPRM

            Without ! that sounds like a neg. Pickup artist at work. Masterclass.

          6. Tres Cool

            He needs a thicker veneer

  22. CPRM

    “New tonight, and elderly man died in a horrific accident with a murphey bed made by an unlicensed carpenter.”

    1. Brochettaward

      Obviously, we need more regulations.

      1. THERE OUGHTA BE A LAW

      2. CPRM

        And, who knows, even though it was clearly shoddy workmanship that did him in, lets just throw in some gun restrictions and school funding in as a rider, for the children.

        1. Brochettaward

          It’s a shame you’re probably a white guy. You’d make a great Democrat for higher office.

        2. CPRM

          “And I,as the distinguished 55 termed representative of the Great State of Iowa, would like to add an amendment that we must increase the ethanol mandate, for the children.”

  23. Playa Manhattan

    I’m not to this point yet. My woodwork is mostly confined to the garage.

  24. hayeksplosives

    HAWKS WIN!! They beat the Ducks on a Ducks PowerPlay! Now, that’s a penalty kill! Final minute of the game. 3-1 score.

    1. CPRM

      Quack quack quack Mr. Ducksworth!

    2. Luther Baldwin

      Rangers too. Must be an omen.

      1. hayeksplosives

        A bad omen or a good omen, only time will tell!

        Do you root for a particular team?

        1. Luther Baldwin

          The Rangers.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Noice! Well, enjoy the good games. It’s an awfully long season.

            Get one of these WiFi enabled hockey klaxons. We love ours!

            https://www.amazon.com/Budweiser-BUD00026-Red-Light/dp/B076TK6CM1

          2. Luther Baldwin

            175 dollars?! You’re kidding.

  25. CPRM

    Where Halloween and parody music meet: The Slashstreet Boys – I’ll Kill You That Way

  26. Gustave Lytton

    Nice work I. B. McGinty! I watch woodworking videos on Youtube, and imagine how easy it would be. And go on to the next video.

    1. Akira

      Indeed, I.B. McGinty hit a home run with this one.

      I’ve thought about getting into woodworking ever since I bought this house and thus came into possession of a garage wherein the woodworking could take place. But I doubt I’ll have the budget for any type of serious powertools… Is it extraordinarily difficult to do some basic woodworking (building some barstools and possibly a bookshelf) with just hand tools?

      1. Mojeaux

        Try Roy Underhill. PBS.org has several seasons on demand.

      2. CPRM

        For rounding you need either a lathe or belt sander, other than those I’d say if you made square legs you could do it with hand tools, provided you can cut a straight line, which I can’t.

  27. CPRM

    No Hat and Hair cartoon this week. Still working out a story and got some actual paying work getting in the way. Which means my next written article will run on Thursday, if anyone cares. I know you don’t. That’s ok. I’ll just go ahead and die alone. That’s cool. Never mind me.

    1. C. Anacreon

      Hey! I always appreciate your contributions here. And congratulations on reeling in some reimbursement for your work.

      And since you are a Packers fan, I will share with you today’s “Mexican Word of the Day”, which is: Cheesehead

      As in:
      I asked my wife if the Packers won,
      and Cheesehead no.

  28. Winston

    So Cory Brooker. When he was elected Senator wasn’t he the great libertarianish Democrat hope? Same with Howard Dean and Jerry Brown…

  29. The Last American Hero

    Rockler is your friend if you are building a Murphy bed. I made one about 5 years ago, and their lift system is fantastic. Comes with detailed measurements for installation.

    No, I do not work for Rockler and do not get a commission or kickback from any sales this might generate.

    I also got a kick out of the measurement issue, as I had an issue where I misdrilled something by about an inch and a half in spite of measuring the spot for the hole about 8 times. It happens.

  30. CPRM

    Well, I didn’t win the Mega Millions, so that just proves this whole country is racist against me. #SCIENCE

    1. Luther Baldwin

      #meneither

      1. CPRM

        Well, the whole country can’t be racist against you, because I’m not. #MATH But I know you along with the rest of the country is racist against me because I didn’t win #SCIENCE

    2. Gustave Lytton

      I suppose you have to buy a ticket to win, right?

      1. CPRM

        I bought two, that means I should have won twice as much! #ThisCountryIsRacistAgainstME

        1. Luther Baldwin

          I also bought two, with… slightly different justification.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Throw away ticket?

          2. Luther Baldwin

            Well, both of them are throw-away now.

  31. CPRM

    Sir Digby is here to save me from the doldrums of the internet late night! (Be entertaining now or I’ll hate you forever!)

    1. Vacuous Insight

      You would think there would be more late night west coast commenters. I usually stop refreshing the sight around 1am Eastern time.

      1. CPRM

        Yes, I’ve found it odd the whole time that comments pretty much stop around 12am central, despite the supposed world wide user base, which is why I have decided this is a honeypot directed at me. *grabs more tinfoil*

        1. straffinrun

          I gotta work. After lunch coffee now.

          1. CPRM

            Sure thing FBI agent!

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Rufus would be proud.

        2. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

          Yes, I’ve found it odd the whole time that comments pretty much stop around 12am central

          Wait–you mean, I’m not shitting up the threads??? ‘Cause, it can seem that way sometimes. last night

          1. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            That was supposed to read ::cough:: last night ::cough::

            ::sigh::

      2. Luther Baldwin

        I’ve lived (briefly) on the west coast. It really does pack it in early.

        1. straffinrun

          So does Saudi Arabia.

          1. CPRM

            #StartWW3OverKASHOGI

    2. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

      #SirDigbySaves

      1. CPRM

        Finally.

        1. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

          Hey, you’re supposed to be the creative one. I just dona-OOOHHHHH….time for some more patronage, eh?

          1. CPRM

            Well, if you insist, I won’t deny you that pleasure. (but really, I do value your late night contributions)

          2. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            You do have a purchasing project, do you not?

          3. CPRM

            You do have a purchasing project, do you not?

            I’m not quite sure what that means.

          4. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            I was thinking that I had seen you mention something/things you wanted to buy to help with production.

          5. CPRM

            Well, there are always things I want to buy. I’m guessing you’re thinking of my thoughts on doing Patreon, which would help me to dedicate more time to the cartoon. But no, I’ve done no official ask since the original Glibstarter which bought me, thanks again to anyone who contributed, the software and a new mic. SP encouraged people to to donate in a thread, but that wasn’t a request by me, just something she felt like doing.

          6. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            Yep, Patreon is most assuredly what I was thinking of,

    3. slumbrew

      I’m still awake, sort of.

      News upadate:
      – Sox victorious.
      – 150 year old church burns to the grown after crazy-ass storm: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fire-first-baptist-church-wakefield-massachusetts-destroyed-today-2018-10-23/

  32. straffinrun

    Tucker vs Cenk debate at Politicon. Tucker will disabuse you of the notion that he is quasi libertarian.

    1. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

      Much like Cenk will disabuse us of the notion he has a functioning cerebrum.

      1. straffinrun

        Cenk is in the exact opposite quadrant of the Nolan chart from me. Tucker sounds like he’s in the upper right quadrant.

    2. slumbrew

      My limited exposure to Cenk is that he’s an authoritarian shitbag.

      1. straffinrun

        Of cooooooooorse.

      2. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

        You are quite correct. However, even after limited exposure, you probably need some iodine, to be on the safe side.

        1. slumbrew

          How about some whiskey? Strictly for medicinal purposes

          1. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            It may very well help you sleep better. Of course, enough of it (and, we’re talking a crap-tonne of it), and you’ll be close to Cenk’s mental level.

    3. CPRM

      I remember commenting on a Tucker Carlson video about 13 years ago on the new fangled youtube about liking Carlson on a Carlson CNN video and some one trying the No True Scotsman thing. What is your current problem? Not about to enact my labor on your behalf FASCIST!

        1. slumbrew

          An hour‽ Ain’t nobody got time for that!

          (seriously, going to bed – maybe tomorrow)

        2. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

          Is it really pronounced, “Chink”? As in, “Help! I have a Cenk in my armor!”

          ‘Cause, that shit’s kinda funny.

          1. Luther Baldwin

            Jenk. “C” is “J” in Turkish.

        3. CPRM

          I’m not going to watch an hour of video to try and sift out what might be your complaint. Youtube lets you link to videos pretty much at the moment. So, if there is one specific thing please link to that moment. I don’t think Tucker is a libertarian savior, hell I think he’s not even a good representation of the common thoughts among minarchists. But, he was the first ‘mainstream’ person I heard Identify as ‘libertarian’ since Bill Mahr, and that was a way worse smear of the name.

          1. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            He’s probably on the same libertarian level as Greg Gutfeld (but less humorous)–wants to be libertarian, but has plenty of uses for government agents, like, the military.

            I wish I could find the clip of Red Eye, when Greg’s sidekick, Andy Levy, begged Greg not to call himself a libertarian, because he was arguing with Andy over some news story, and taking an authoritarian stance on whatever the issue was. It was actually kinda shocking to see it.

          2. Vacuous Insight

            I enjoyed Red eye. The show often had libertarians on the panel and it is how I first heard of Reason. Bill Scholtz was still on when I first discovered Red Eye.

          3. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            Same here, about Bill. I kinda-sorta remember when he left.

          4. CPRM

            -1NY Times puppet.

          5. CPRM

            Yes. Andy Levy did seem to try to check Greg many times, Andy seems to be ONE OF US for real. He got the gig on Red Eye by of all things commenting on Gutfeld’s stories. But it was Greg, who I know isn’t a TRUE BELIEVER TM, who insisted Andy be part of the show. Sometimes its not the things one says, but the things one does that show their true thoughts.

          6. Sir Digby’s Contrabulous Faptraption

            I had no idea about how he got the job, or that others here knew so much about the show.

            Now, I’m feeling a bit silly for bringing it up…

          7. straffinrun

            Sorry, can’t talk much now. He’s position on trade is weak. That’s all.

          8. CPRM

            Well, as a minachist anything other than ‘trade with all, entangling alliances with none’ is a bad stance, but you’re an anarchist, so even my line isn’t ‘libertarian’ enough for you. And I know Carlson is a ‘bridge’ type person, but when you go around accusing everyone of the ‘No True Scotsman’, at some point you end up in Highn territory. ‘98% of Libertarians don’t identify as Libertarians because I am The One True Libertarian!’

          9. straffinrun

            I’m not accusing everyone of not being a libertarian. I’m saying Tucker isn’t one. His attitude towards trade is indistinguishable from Trump’s.

  33. Suthenboy

    I am sorry I missed this one IB. I really enjoy your woodworking articles. The bed…nice. Wife and I thought about building one way back when but now we are empty nesters.
    We did build two bed frames with shelves underneath. If I sober up today I will take some photos.

  34. DenverJ

    That’s really nice. Great work. How wide is the case? It would be cool to put in a header and recess the whole thing into the wall.

    1. DenverJ

      Also, do I still have posting rights, or have I been culled?