For part deux of this review I decided to go for a beer that is significantly less awful than Honey Brown. Given that everybody here loves pumpkin ales, I found a doozy.
This is my review of Grand Canyon Brewery Will o the Wisp Bourbon Barrel-Aged Imperial Pumpkin Ale.
Part 1 discussed some of the biases within the data that are making polls less reliable. Today I will touch on parts of the book that discuss methods professional pollsters use to account for these biases, and their drawbacks. This is the second part of the book. The first thing Wood points out is how the public at large misinterprets polls to begin with. Most people hear about polls through the media, who among other things, have a penchant for oversimplifying. It is because of the way the polls are presented that most people do not realize the confidence level the pollsters have in the poll results, or even how the margin of error works.
This factor makes it hard to definitively state that findings are wrong; more often, they are presented as simply imprecise. Probability samples using the standard 95% confidence level generally have a margin of error roughly equal to the inverse of the square root of the sample size.48 The confidence level tells us how sure we are that the true average lies within the margin of error.
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If in our above example with a simple random sample of 836 registered voters wherein 45% state they will vote for candidate A, assuming there are only two candidates in the race and nobody claims not to know whom they support such that the other 55% state they will vote for candidate B, the real margin of error for that poll at a 95% confidence level is 6.8%. While this poll would report candidate B with a 10-point margin over candidate A, in reality this poll states with 95% confidence that candidate B’s lead over candidate A will be between about 3 and 17 points.
In closer races, this means election polls can claim to be accurate while having next to no predictive power. If in our example, the candidates instead polled at 48% and 52%, the candidate supported by 48% may actually have a lead of nearly 3 points.
This of course means the races could have been within the margin of error the entire time, within the confidence levels, and still come out with the “unexpected” result and the majority of the public would be none the wiser. Unexpected results as we have seen in recent events, have been met with shall we say, less than heroic reaction.
A way professional polls will account for some the self-selection and sampling biases is by weighing the results.
By its nature, weighting entails a lot of assumptions which do not necessarily hold up to scrutiny. It embeds the presumption that researchers somehow know the actual proportion of various groups within the study population such that deviations from those proportions within the sample can be detected. It also presupposes that each group behaves as a block with identical characteristics, rather than as individuals. This could be described as a form of scientific stereotyping, since it suggests that individuals have behaviors identical to the groups to which researchers have assigned them.
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Let’s say the researchers who sampled ten people to determine their favorite colors ran the study again with a new random sample pulled from the same population. This time, a sample of 8 people are selected instead of 10. When this group is surveyed, the results are substantially different from the first group: four respondents pick green as a favorite color, one chooses red, and another three select blue. When looking at the sex of the respondents, the researchers notice that seven of the eight in this sample were male, with only one female.
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The findings from this second study and those from the first are both equally considered valid. However, the first study made it appear that green and red were the only colors preferred by the population. Due to sampling and weighting errors, it completely missed the fact that blue is also a common preference for some. Additionally, in the second sample, a single data point was used to represent the entire population block of females. A larger sample would have reduced the magnitude of this error, but this example shows how weighting can misrepresent the data and increase error while theoretically accounting for sampling bias in both cases. Weighting trades precision in the hopes of increasing accuracy, yet it can actually detract from both.
All Mexicans with libertarian politics like beer. We can say that, because you all have me as that single data point.
Further into the book, a third section begins to present potential solutions towards obtaining more accurate, and precise poll results. The first seems obvious:
Questions are inherently subjective because they must be interpreted by the person answering the question. Researchers require objective, quantified data rather than a collection of individual interpretations. While some question formats may appear to make quantification possible, such as a “For/Against” question, no two responses are truly comparable when individuals are responding to questions with their own subjective interpretations of the question’s meaning. The same core concept, that different people must answer the same question for the data collected to be comparable, is behind the importance of using identical wording when asking the same question at different points in time to measure changes between the two periods.19 However, because every individual has a different understanding of any given word’s definition, the folly of asking questions at all becomes apparent.
Definitions are probably the most difficult thing to define between individuals with dissimilar viewpoints. Lets pick on the statement, “everyone has the right to free healthcare.” What is a right? What is free? Healthcare in of itself is not a right, but a commodity. We can probably give the pollster the benefit of the doubt and think perhaps they mean access to healthcare, which in of itself may not be a right either, but not something anybody is necessarily going to deny…..Wait, what in the hell do you mean for free!?
One can see how such obvious differences in opinions can lead to differences in how one answers qualitative questions like this.
A potential solution is by using social media algorithms to continuously take in information on the user, and by accounting for self selection biases by measuring sentiment amongst a like minded people. This is not without other issues.
In doing, so these platforms are collecting data that are inherently subject to multiple biases,including social desirability bias. Social media posts are often directly tied to one’s identity, so making taboo statements or posting certain perspectives may have ramifications. Therefore, individuals using social media have incentives to portray themselves in a specific way based on the perceived preferences of their chosen social circles.
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As far as samples drawn from social media populations themselves go, there is a fair amount of self-selection bias at work which is closely related to the social desirability bias contained within the data. Many individuals, even those who nominally use a given public or semi-public platform, will react to perceptions of facing social disapproval for their beliefs or group membership by simply opting not to make statements at all, effectively withdrawing from such platforms. Some views are consequentially likely to be proportionally misrepresented. As Anne Halsall, co-founder and CPO of the company Winnie, noted, “Online representations of self must be carefully designed and maintained; a well- cultivated social media account has taken the place of the well-manicured lawn in signaling wealth, status, and general got-it-togetherness to peers.”39
Indeed. My social media accounts all include pictures of me wearing a fitted suit, and generally have little controversial content posted. Why? Perhaps I like to think of myself as an adult, and present myself as such.
The strength of large, properly collected datasets can allow for active proportional sampling. A large dataset may not itself be perfectly representative of a given population, but it is likely to contain representative samples of any given population. Once such a dataset has been assembled, the proper sample for a particular study need only be identified from within that broader dataset.
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In cases where specific representation is necessary, researchers can repeatedly randomly sample an existing large set of data until certain parameters are met and study that sample. Since the data has already been collected and researchers in this scenario are only conducting sampling to determine which data to pull, rather than who to attempt to reach, results can be synthesized without worrying about sampling bias, self-selection bias, or the increased error associated with traditional sample adjustment methods. This sample can even be tagged and repeatedly referenced in the future to examine change over time. It can also be isolated from the larger dataset before again running the sampling process until the same parameters are met in a new sample without using the initial sample group, in order to conduct verification checks.
I am going have to go ahead and disagree here. While I accept that virtue signaling is a thing, and one that is not going away anytime soon. There are a number of ways I avoid giving information about myself on the internet. I use as few Google products as possible, along with other no brainers like using a pen-name. Plus when I go on Facebook I will screw with the ad-bot by listing any and all political ads as hate-speech, and saying that NowThis news is sexually explicit. I get ads like this now…
Whatever the results of the election in two weeks, because of this book I am more interested in seeing how the results of poll predictions play out. I have an itchy feeling in some places, they will be dead on, and in others….well…
This is not a beer for the faint of heart. It is a level of insanity that most of you will happily accept, given you are receiving it as a gift. This falls in the “overdone, gluten-free dunkel” category. The bourbon is rather overpowering, but it goes well with the pumpkin since most of us associate it with sweetness, except it does not taste at all like pumpkin pie. It is one to savor the complex palate for a long time. So if you show up to chug it, you are going to have bad time. Grand Canyon Brewery Will o the Wisp Bourbon Barrel aged imperial Pumpkin Ale 4.8/5
As for the book, it is now available on Kindle…unfortunately it may no longer available gratis, but I highly recommend it!
Not all Libertarian Beer drinkers are Messycin, there’s a data point,
Great read MS!
Thank you. Buy this book!
So You are Steve Wood?
No, he just has morning wood.
Fuck Pumpkin beers. It’s just a bad spice ale.
This one is more bourbon stout than bad spice ale.
So far the only pumpkin beer that I tolerated was one from Sixpoint which was unspiced and dry hopped to hell and back.
But tonight is Brewzilla, which is back after being gone for two years. The event they tried to replace it with was sad and overpriced.
Beer.
https://acidcow.com/girls/23429-babes-and-beer-35-pics.html
26 is that a beer coochie?
I get ads like this now…
Wut. The. Fuk is that?
An ill-advised attempt to put a ring of fake fur around the neck of a chick wearing a peach colored saggy necked knit shirt.
Like mouth of tired dog.
Brain Bug
Attack of the vag monster?
I had a pumpkin ale that was aged in rum barrels, and it wasn’t good.
I do like regular old-school upstate NY/New England pumpkin ale though.
You know, I’m not sure if I’ve ever enjoyed any alcohol that was aged in a barrel that was previously used to age something else.
Many excellent Scotches are aged that way.
Ooh, ooh, where did she get that mug?
https://quillette.com/2018/10/19/consent-isnt-everything-and-sex-is-not-like-tea/
That was a frustrating read. It was like Dan Ariely’s work, where he shows how behavioral economics basically shows how all attempts at a planned economy have feet of clay, but then at the end suggests that we double-down on collectivist, nanny-state policies. Yes, the market of inter-personal relationships carries some risk, but the strategy of buying investment bonds isn’t a one-size-fits-all one. For those men and women who have a higher inter-personal ability have no reason not to pursue a higher-risk, higher-reward strategy if they chose to do so.
What I get from that is basically: be careful about whom you invite into your bed and take responsibility for freely entered into actions. We’ve replaced explicit non-consent being a crime to lack of explicit consent being a crime. There is a big difference. Put on big girl (or boy) panties and learn to say “no”. If, after saying that, the activity persists against your will, we’re in assault/rape territory. The thing with the Ansari incident is that the girl got played, felt bad about it, and instead of taking responsibility for her own actions and learning for next time, she uses the power of the state/online mob to punish someone else for her own mistake.
Will o the Wisp Bourbon Barrel-Aged Imperial Pumpkin Ale – just reading that is a bit to much for me.
Fat Head’s released Wake the Dead at the GABF (and at their brewery earlier this week). It’s an imperial stout with vanilla, cinnamon, and peppers that was aged in Jameson’s Caskmate Stout edition barrels for some time.
sounds awful
It was quite good. I was disappointed that the pepper wasn’t more predominant. There was a collaboration beer for the kick-off that had just the right amount of chipotle, so you got just a little heat on the finish.
“As an example, consider how this increased competition plays out in online dating platforms. On Tinder, the top 20% of men are competing for the top 78% of women. Why? It’s a matter of the breadth of selection. Offline, due to the constraints of physical space and time, any given woman would have a finite set of potential partners to choose from. Online, the selection is much more vast and most women only “like” the most attractive men. The Gini coefficient for the “Tinder economy” is 0.58, which means that it has higher inequality than 95% the world’s national economies – in other words, it’s pretty grim if you’re a man in the bottom 80%.
We believe that this effect can be extrapolated into most contexts where digital distribution is used for signalling purposes. Yes, you could work more in order to buy more consumption goods, services, and activities and spend more of your free time posting about it online in order to break through, but it’s a grind given the ever-escalating, relative nature of the competition.”
http://kortina.nyc/essays/kinky-labor-supply-and-the-attention-tax/
“The Gini coefficient”
Nice…
Yes, hypergamy is a thing. Yes, it’s biologically programmed. No, the MRAs are not correct in saying that hypergamy is a result of misandry. It is natural and both sexes practice it; each want to “date up” they just value different qualities on average. Such is life in any free market; goods will be unequally distributed based on relative value. The good news is that if you are in that bottom 80% of men, you can improve yourself and your standing. While physical characteristics have a limited scope of changeability, overall attractiveness is very much under an individual’s control.
each order of magnitude of net worth probably adds a standard deviation to your attractiveness. She’s a 10 he’s a billionaire.
I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter.
A Pumpkin Ale get’s a 4.8. You’re just trolling us now.
11% Stout= Good
Pumpkin and Bourbon flavor= NO, why would someone do such a thing?
Everyone knows bourbon should only be paired with peaches.
Mix together in a rocks glass:
Bourbon (or rye, as my personal preference)
Paramount peach brandy
A few slices of peach
Club soda
Ice cubes
Deliciousness.
Bourbon should only be paired with branch. And even that rarely.
As are you with your apostrophe abuse.
I was waiting for that. My deepest apology’s.
That pulled Fendi scarf is awesome!
https://www.businessinsider.com/fendi-removes-scarf-people-say-resembles-a-vulva-2018-10?r=UK&IR=T
publicity stunt?
Pubic stunt.
All Mexicans with libertarian politics like beer. We can say that, because you all have me as that single data point. – wait I though you were no true mexican
I feel this is over-egging the pudding. Surely, Wood must be aware of the techniques used in survey research to mitigate this, such as those protocols to increase test validity and measure inter-rater and/or intra-rater reliability. In questionnaire and survey research that I would consider to meet minimum standards of rigor, the raters are given a research protocol that painstakingly details the definitions of terms used in the research instrument. And if this instrument hasn’t already been piloted and normed, then it should be done so before any results that are worth a damn are reported. Maybe pollsters aren’t as rigorous, but the subtitle includes “social research”, and I would be horrified at any IRB that would allow a survey research study to go ahead without those bare minimum expectations, at least.
But beyond that, Wood’s statement gets into deeper questions of semantics and epistemology. If it is true that every individual has an idiosyncratic definition for any particular lexeme, then how do any two members of a particular speech community meaningfully communicate at all? Unless one wants to take the radical position that true inter-personal communication is impossible, it would seem to me that humans have the faculty to semiotically decode lexical signs with a certain signal-to-noise ratio, that in my opinion is quite tolerant. What exactly that ratio is, is the daily work of semanticists, of course. If we accept the common-sense premise that two people can reach a certain degree of agreement over the exact boundaries of the meaning of a particular word, then it becomes a question of what level of inter-rater reliability is acceptable for survey research in behavioral and social research. To demand a Cohen’s kappa* of 1 reeks to me of lab coat envy.
That having been said, the overall message of epistemological humility and the need for increased literacy in statistics among researchers and the general public is welcome, as well as the answer to the concerns above.
*Bangdiwala’s B is a hell of a lot more fun to say.
all that sounds complicated. can we just get rid of polls?
also i have not heard the expression over-egging the pudding until now which is strange i know a lot of English idioms
Glad to be of service. It’s a Britishism that I picked up from a friend and colleague in Bangkok.
oh so its one o them puddins they boil in a cloth?
It might even be savo(u)ry!
Unless one wants to take the radical position that true inter-personal communication is impossible
I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
You talk like a fag and you’re shit’s all retarded.
Lies. Any man who is married understands what I’m saying.
Hello, my Glibertarian peeps! I am back home in SD, safe and sound. Watching Wisconsin thrash poor ol’ Illinois in football. There seems to be a good amount of white stuff swirling around out there. It could be snow, I guess, but that’s hard to believe when it’s clearly 75 degrees outside.
WHY DOESN’T EVERYONE LIVE IN CALIFORNIA??!!
Earthquakes?
Only quake i’ve had was in Washington DC a few years ago. Bizarre, but it happened.
does in normally snow in San Diego in October?
Have that game on. Nobody can hang on to the ball. Love watching football played in the snow:)
Fire
I like guns and knives.
I have both.
Molon Labe.
Living in the very military influenced area of San Diego takes the edge off being Californian.
Because there is a gazillion other people living there and traffic is epic levels of stupid. Also taxes and cost of living.
Wife made us leave the stadium, unfortunately. She did not dress for the weather.
That’s what the beer is for. Teach her to live wisconsinably.
I… wow.
Yes.
This looks like a glass for glib’s who sip cocktails.
Well, I know what I need to add to my beer glass collection.
Hah, so true, usually in the country as well as town.
and a great product description:
Hmm. There’s no bar within a mile of my place, but only barely. There are two within a 1.5 mile radius.
Close enough.
There’s 4 within a mile from me, and 2 more that are probably about 2 miles away.
I offered her some scotch from my flask! But noooooo, she was all “I can’t feel my face” and “it’s so snowy I can’t see anything.”
Next home game, she’s wearing the long underwear and much, much thicker socks.
Where is she from? Cold? Hah! This is shorts weather yet, the cold hasn’t even started.
We’re both originally from Colorado, so I don’t know what her deal was. It wasn’t even below freezing.
I guess maybe the humidity?
I like seasons
No like communists
I’m here to RESIST! (the commies of course, not our duly elected clowns)
Taxes, increasing regulation, more and more efforts to grab guns, increasing progginess, etc.
/your neighbor less than 60 miles away
WHY DOESN’T EVERYONE LIVE IN CALIFORNIA??!!
Why does anyone live there?
Given that everybody here loves pumpkin ales, I found a doozy.
Har dee fucking har. If you think that will get me to kill you last, you’re mistaken.
WHY DOESN’T EVERYONE LIVE IN CALIFORNIA??!!
Kaliforniunz.
duh
That sounds yummy
Goddamn it this getting adds during YouTube videos is bullshit. Thing is in Romania i don’t get any in my laptop but i do on my YouTube app on my Samsung smart TV
Waaaaa! I want my Free Shit!
there are ad-blocking dns servers which you can use for your TV. it might not cover as much as your browser’s ad-blocker, especially with Romanian ads, but I find it generally works pretty well (I use Ad Guard).
I use Ad Guard DNS on my TV for that very reason.
Try using Ad Guard DNS on your TV.
Great article! I may have to buy that book as well. I just read The Tyranny of Metrics, which is somewhat related and also an interesting read.
Critiquing the methodology of polls and surveys is very important these days, especially as people start to place more confidence in “big data” and start to think that it’s magic. I wish every statistical class would have an entire unit on what statistics cannot do.
” I wish every statistical class would have an entire unit on what statistics cannot do.”
Making predictions is hard. Especially about the future.
Thanks for this book review. Sounds like a thoroughly interesting read. I will probably dive into this. (But not the beers.)
Hey. I tried, do I get a ribbon?
*thinking thinking thinking*
No participation ribbons! Sorry!
Give him a PBR!
Beer, pah, little people. I’m sipping the finest cocktails DC has to offer. Excuse me, I see someone important I need to hobnob with.
another libertarian lost to cocktails. He will switch from glibs to Niskanen Center
THE BEST cocktails!
If you tag ENB we want pics.
I’ve actually had cocktails with ENB before on the Reason dime. The magazine was just spiraling cosmotarian shit instead of the full TDS freefall into big-state fake-libertarianism at the time, so no heckling occurred.
There used to be a libertarian happy hour in DC on Thursday nights at Clarendon Grill. Now that Clarendon is closing, I don’t know where it’ll be.
I was confused the first time I went because there were a bunch of “less marx more mises” shirts
I periodically read Mein Kampf as a matter of historical interest, and there’s some phrase in there that keeps getting translated as “to be sure”. It makes me giggle every time I see it.
I have tried to read it, and Das Kapital and just can’t do it. Marx and Hitler were not good at writing or thinking.
That is a very complicated and long winded way of saying ‘makin’ shit up cuz I wish’.
Saw a bit on MSNBC yesterday that assured me the country will be inundated by a blue wave. And Beto is way ahead of Cruz.
I think a big problem in statistical/data science is that people have been conditioned to believe that “models” are magic crystal balls that always reveal the truth. It doesn’t occur to people that models are designed by humans, and you can get a model to show whatever you want if you get to set the parameters.
The notion that computer models can predict misunderstands what they do. The programmer sets parameters, inputs data, which he weights, selects and in other ways fictionalizes (I don’t mean that to connote wrongdoing, but you never have all the data and all the normalization processes are to some extent attempts to make up, hopefully accurate, stand ins for uncollected data). The model just does the calculations extrapolating what will happen in a universe with physical laws matching the program and a start state matching the data input.
Exactly.
I’m sure they’re very useful in fields like physics, where the forces at play are more consistent and better known. But when they make models for “social science” stuff? Fuggeddaboutit.
Everyone takes every weather prediction that a computer model puts out with a grain of salt, if not outright scorn. And yet the models predicting voting (or climate) are believed without a second thought. People are weird.
Asking for birthdates and signatures is confusing. Confusing things hit minorities the hardest. CNN.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/20/politics/gwinnett-county-absentee-ballots/index.html
Interviewer – “Why does it seem like democrats want rule changes that would make voter fraud easier?”
Dan Bongino – “Because they want to engage in voter fraud.”
Apparently if you are black you dont know when you were born.
The racialization is tiresome BS but she’s right about this:
I don’t sign the same way every time, even with the same hand.
Euphemism?
Why did the woman who is working at the polls mail in an absentee ballot?
So they wouldn’t see her vote twice on election day?
This
She would only vote twice?
She might not be working at the same polling place where she would vote.
I worked at my county board of elections one year as a temp and voted absentee so I could be in the office on election day to answer the phone; it’s not necessarily nefarious.
MS i got your beer package ready. I already had plans to be on charlotte this weekend so I grabbed a couple charlotte beers i can’t get near me
Nice. I’ll have to let the orphans in charge of my moat filled with crocodilles know to let it pass.
Great book review(s) MS.
Will we see Maduro hanging from a lamppost in the near future? http://amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article204927784.html
He will be picked off by 10,000 Venezuelan snipers.
This Michigan-MSU game is getting to be a slop fest!
According to my spreadsheet, I
amshould be a millionaire. I plugged in all the right numbers and formulae.I don’t get it.
Well if the model proves that you’re a millionaire, you obviously are. Anyone who disagrees is an anti-finance and anti-math Luddite who should be thrown in prison for denial.
I have added the book to my list. Tonight’s beer is Rhino Chasers from Lost Rhino Brewery.
Thanks for the review.