Carry on, big guy.
Halfway through this week and I’m exhausted. The Dodgers-Brewers game didn’t help that matter last night. The Dodgers needed that win and got it. Let’s see if the Astros can duplicate the feat tonight after the bullpen shit the bed yesterday. Also, the NBA started real games yesterday. You can find the scores somewhere online if you look. Nick Bosa will not be returning to the field in Columbus this year and will work on getting ready for the NFL draft. Best of luck, big guy. You’ll be sadly missed.
Nice rack, Miss Hayworth
Today’s famous birthdays include: actress Irene Ryan, Pope John PAUL I, playwright Arthur Miller, comic book writer Jerry Siegel, the lovely Rita Hayworth, trombonist Rico Rodriguez, daredevil Evel Knievel, musician Gary Puckett, drummer Michael Hossack, actor George Wendt, actress Margot Kidder, acting legend Dolph Lundgren, comedian and tireless tweeter of minutiae Norm McDonald, golf legend Ernie Els, rapper and Trump hater Marshall Mathers, baseball player Kenny Powers John Rocker, F1 legend Kimi Räikkönen, and actress Felicity Jones.
Its also the day Mendelssohn’s 1st piano concerto premiered, Luxembourg’s constitution was adopted, Edison filed a patent for the first motion picture, the Bank Of America (Bank of Italy) was founded, the first transatlantic wire service began, Einstein arrived in the US as a refugee, “Mr Smith Goes To Washington” was released, so was “Bullitt”, Jimmy Carter restored Jefferson Davis’s citizenship, Mother Teresa was awarded the Nobel Prize, and the Traveling Wilburys released their first album.
OK, on to…the links!
Don’t fuck with The Zodiac, Mick.
A Hispanic man and an Irish-American debated last night for the Texas Senate seat. The minority candidate will likely walk away from it with a bump in the polls, as the Mick’s chances of winning fade when he decries fossil fuels with a picture of a giant oil barge (a large part of the state’s economy) rolls behind him.
If you were one of the hundreds of Americans that watched “The Connors” last night, you know the petulantly killed off Roseanne’s character with an opioid overdose and made her part of a local opioid distribution ring. The aforementioned star of the show did not react well. Neither did Twitter, but whatever. It’ll be cancelled in six months anyway.
Alt sign: Actions shouldn’t have consequences
The breakdown of the family unit continues apace. Sadly, this should be the biggest story of the day. But it won’t be by a long shot. Anyway, this is the result of social planning that says the government will take care of you and your kids if you aren’t married. And it also results in the creation of a bunch of boys being raised without fathers and ending up sipping hot chocolate in a bathtub when things don’t go their way.
Nate Silver takes a swipe at the media. That’s what we in the real world call “hedging”.
This trial is a circus. But that’s what sells papers.
The Khashoggi case gets weirder and weirder. I only hope the media’s bloodlust (that exists solely in order to harm Trump) doesn’t drive us into another war.
Here’s one. And another with some pace. And a rocking third.
Now go give em hell, friends!
Glad I don’t watch TV, I liked Roseanne…
First!
I liked her too. Not interested in a show without her cause the rest of those asshats just are stupid.
I was a big fan of the original but this is just a grotesque cash-in and it sounds like they’re going to make it unfunny-woke. Not watching.
I really liked the original. The reboot was ok, but I absolutely will not watch it without her.
Nice rack, Miss Hayworth
Yes
+2
Indeed.
I find her fascinating. The rack, yes, but also the incredible race change she underwent.
Ibragim Todashev, Jamal Khashoggi, whatever.
The Post publishes the first column by Khashoggi in its newspaper, in which the former royal court insider and longtime journalist writes about going into a self-imposed exile in the U.S. over the rise of Prince Mohammed. His following columns criticize the prince and the kingdom’s direction.
This Prince Mohammed? From his wikipedia page:
He has led several successful reforms, which include regulations restricting the powers of the religious police, [14] and the removal of the ban on female drivers.[15] Further cultural developments under his reign include the first Saudi public concerts by a female singer, the first Saudi sports stadium to admit women,[16] and an increased presence of women in the workforce.[17] His Vision 2030 program aims to diversify the Saudi economy through investment in non-oil sectors including technology and tourism. In 2016 he announced plans to list the shares of the state oil company Saudi Aramco.
I wonder if these are sour grapes.
On my morning drive the other day I had Glenn Beck on. Their guy who reports on such things claimed that Khashoggi was a big time Muslim Brotherhood supporter and a big cheerleader for establishing the caliphate. It is no secret the Brotherhood is not a fan of the Saudi Royals and would love to overthrow them. Also no secret the Royal House of Saud has no problem offing those who would like to overthrow them. Maybe something there, maybe not. I never did any research on this claim because I have to work and shit, and am only passing on what I heard.
According to the Spectator article Khashoggi was a big booster of the Muslim Brotherhood, who are also fundamentalists, but disagree slightly with the Wahhabi types, and therefore hate each other. It’s like how LP libertarians virulently attack one another.
Apostates and heretics are always treated more harshly than unbelievers.
Perhaps this is the “start” of the future great civil war within Islam itself: moderates versus extremists. It’s been brewing for a while.
Great. Some of them have nukes. And it ain’t exactly the moderate ones.
The struggle to limit nuclear proliferation failed the second Pakistan tested a bomb. Adding N Korea just iced that cake.
You can’t make this shit up.
It’s pronunced O-Ree…
Yeah, whatever… man
Whore-ee county. Funny stuff.
It’ll be cancelled in six months anyway.
I’d only give it a couple weeks…maybe a month.
No way do they admit it was a bad decision that quickly. They need to prove they don’t need her. And the best way to do that is to lose money for a whole season before pulling the plug.
They’ve already admitted it was a bad decision. They insist on going down with their sinking ship though.
I’m surprised that the whole cast went along with the story line. Assholes…every one. Especially Goodman.
That virtue ain’t gonna signal itself
No shit! None of them would have had a career without her, except possibly Goodman.
Can you imagine them trying to Seinfeld or the Cosby Show afloat after firing the namesake character?
“Roseanne” without Roseanne?
It’s like All in the Family without Archie. What would be the fucking point?
Meathead going on political rants.
Good morning, Sloop!
Nice selections today! I love the Stones riff in the middle of Little Bitch. Friday is the 39th anniversary of that album, as well.
Man, I’m old!
We’re all old. But that music never ages.
It’s 5:15 why can’t I get Doordash/Grubhub for Breakfast!
/21st century rant off
You should be out of your brain on the train.
Aw Yea! thanks for the reminder!
Save some money and cook for yourself.
Break bad and ‘cook’ for others
>>Edison filed a patent for the first motion picture
opening up the porn movie industry ::brushes 1970s ‘stache::
He did the Lord’s work.
SJWednesday: Get Out of Get Out the Vote
How about, You’re an idiot, don’t vote…….
I’m not going to click, but let me guess cleaning and shooting guns isn’t on the list?
The Monty Python Justification
The Look at My Pain, LOOK AT IT Justification
I mailed off my ballot (Florida) yesterday. After giving a great deal of serious consideration to writing in Augustus Sol Invictus for governor, I ended up voting Gillum (or however you spell it). I decided the entertainment value of a D governor and R legislature outweighed other considerations. And I voted no on most of the amendments, except for the one about restoring voting rights to convicted felons. I also followed my usual practice of voting NO on all questions of the form “Shall Judge X be retained?”
Do you really want those people voting, Scruffy?
I’m just enjoying the infighting among the nouveau victime.
The obligatory straight white male bashing appears in the last two panels.
or: I considered both presidential candidates horrible people; and my congressman Amash is a shoe-in. And I had better things to do with my life, like listen to a record.
If you reason for not voting doesn’t follow SJW lines, then you are a privileged white male. Literally what the comic says.
But do they even want privileged white males voting?
What solutions are they thinking for these I can’t vote sob stories?
Working mom – their is early voting and same day registration how many more accomodations do you need?
Agoraphobe – he can’t remember a deadline what makes you think he can remember what day election day is? Do we need 1800 phone and text lines to accomodate agaraphobe ?
Agoraphobia (lit “fear of the marketplace”) used to be called “the housewife’s disease. These are the people who rarely leave their houses, and then only within their self-defined comfort zones (church, grocery, relatives). This is completely unrelated to calendar issues.
They left off “everyone on the ballot is a statist fuck who wants to treat me like a serf or worse, and I don’t feel like endorsing or enabling that behavior”
Nick Bosa will not be returning tot he field in Columbus this year and will work on getting ready for the NFL draft. Best of luck, big guy.
Maybe drafted by my team (worst in football) the Raiders. Truly best of luck, big guy
We live in the best timeline
James Woods
✔
@RealJamesWoods
The bad news for #Pocahontas: she’s gotta swap the headdress for a sombrero. #SeñoritaWarren
It’ll be cancelled in six months anyway.
We’re at a point now where I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised if the network kept it running with negative ratings as a political statement.
Like all their other shows?
They should just consider it part of their news department.
Letters to the Local Rag: That’s Crazy Talk
What about the Asians? Were there Asians on board?
I’m going to guess there weren’t many Catholics either.
Asians are wypipo now, because they aren’t allies of black and latinos who are too stupid to be accepted to college.
Recent archaeological finds indicate there may have been some crypto-Catholics in the colony. Exhumation of colonists’ graves revealed some devotional objects with the dead which were not typical of protestant devotion.
That is some incredible stupidity on the part of the questioner. Diversity not a societal goal at the time, in fact quite the opposite. Total combined Jewish/Muslim population of England at the time – probably less than one percent. Etc, etc.
The fruits of postmodernism. Everything must be viewed thru the lens of the present.
Total combined Jewish/Muslim population of England at the time – probably less than one percent.
Probably close to zero, even. The Jews had been expelled from England and would not be allowed to return until 1657, and the Battle of Vienna (turning the tide of Ottoman invasion into Europe) wouldn’t happen until 1683 – so Muslims would’ve been viewed suspiciously as in league with a foreign, hostile Empire (the Ottoman Sultan claimed – without proper substantiation, it should be noted – to be the Caliph, and thereby owed the loyalty of all Muslims).
And it also results in the creation of a bunch of boys being raised without fathers and ending up sipping hot chocolate in a bathtub when things don’t go their way.
If only. They seem more inclined to end up sitting in jail missing half their teeth after their 45th arrest for meth possession or sitting in the morgue after their poor choices catch up with them.
FEE.org published an article about this just the other day. Rates of poverty were plummeting until LBJ declared war on it.
FEE may be my second-favorite website. And Daniel Mitchell is always informative.
… Hobbit
Give a man a crutch and his son will expect a Rascal.
Good piece. I am also a huge fan of FEE, but I forget to check in there as often as I should.
TW NYTimes ,Evel Knievels Birthday,
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/arts/television/evel-knievel-travis-pastrana.html
TW: WaPo. With ‘Horseface,’ Trump initiates another personal attack on a female adversary.
Yes, because he’s never done personal attacks on men. Just ask Lyin’ Ted and Little Marco about how he never said anything negative about them personally. They’ll tell you he treated them with total, 100% respect and only ever personally attacked women.
He does it because it works, you morons. And your reactions to his insults prove it.
Splinter suggested “horseface” was a misogynistic term. John Elway is sad.
John Elway is a big girl!
And that frivolous lawsuit was an attack of a much higher order of magnitude. You can walk away from an insult, you can’t walk away from a court judgement.
Women are fierce, strong and equal to men in every way…
…until we need to call them delicate for political purposes.
“It ain’t what they call you, it’s what you answer to.”
“I’m not seeing anyone say that she doesn’t have a horseface.”
– Sean Spicier
Would it been better to call her a professional?
Missed the post on cover bands, but the best cover band was?/is Gov’t Mule. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHnWVy4Xpec
That is all.
I would have guessed Santana or Led Zep.
Covering Led Zep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cQ-jUTEgck
Covering Santana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohduTtVv93M
Etta James for the bonus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_elmd7eaPYQ
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/covers/govt-mule-13d6ad55.html
I think Cake has done some of the best covers:
https://youtu.be/7KJjVMqNIgA
That is a good cover.
That B-52’s singing style that sounds like someone trying to talk with a melody just doesn’t do anything for me. Other than that it’s pretty good.
Gollum covers I will Survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9eriClHWLw
All wrong. Leo is best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9FyLsfDzw
Lizzie Warren sends up smoke signals all night.
She’s got her metaphorical shovel and she seems determined to dig. I’m starting to think Senator Schoolmarm just isn’t that bright.
I thinking last night about that. Who in Congress is actually smart these days? In the ’80’s, Tip O’Neil would have figured out Trump on day 1 and started making deals.
Warren, Pelosi, Waters… morons. Harris thinks she’s smart, but always proves she isn’t. Schumer and Feinstein are cunning and sneaky, but not brilliant.
The smart ones have been pushed to the back bench because signaling is a lot more important than dealmaking.
You make a deal with the other side and things get accomplished. But if you refuse to make deals with them and ceaselessly attack them, then hopefully you’ll get total power and won’t have to make deals with them. That’s the New American Way.
In the ’80’s, Tip O’Neil would have figured out Trump on day 1 and started making deals.
In fairness, Trump is an 80s Democrat who’s decided to let 80s Republicans run his departments and choose his judges, so it wouldn’t have been that hard for Tip.
That’s the death shakes of someone’s political aspirations.
You do know they ran Ms. Clinton for prez after she had lost once already, and had her baggage already aired out?
Warren might be their next nominee.
Oh please I hope so.
Hell, I’m sure some of them will be saying “It’s her turn” without even the shadow of understanding what that means.
That’s some funny stuff!
“you know they petulantly killed off Roseanne’s character with an opioid overdose and made her part of a local opioid distribution ring.”
That’s just rubbing salt in the wound right there. I give the new show one season and that’s the one that’s already in the can.
Doubt It Can’t Happen Here? Tell It to Berlin
A note to those who think it unfair to compare the Trump White House and the GOP to what happened in Germany 85 years ago.
the denigration and condemnation of rival political parties, the disintegration of the courts, attacks on organized labor while claiming massive job creation, the dismissal of public servants unwilling to swear undying allegiance to the leader, verbal and written slurs and smears flung against the press and opponents, inciting and legitimizing violence against anyone who dares to disagree.
I’M NOT PROJECTING YOU’RE PROJECTING!
None of those things can be blamed on the left, Pat. C’mon they’re obviously the “good guys….” /sarc.
Hmmm… increasing uncontrollable partisan violence, followed by a strongman offering order and stability supported by large portion of the population. Not really unique to Weimar Germany.
Translation: “It’s not fair, *we* wanted to be the Nazis.” /stomps dramatically to room and slams door behind xim
They left out the part where Hitler got beaten decisely by a double digit margin by Hindenburg, but then Hindenburg made the colossal error of putting Hitler in charge of the military and police — you know, the people with guns — and it was all over.
Kiah Morris: Vermont’s only black woman lawmaker on why she quit
If
a) Progressive politics is the politics of personal destruction, and
b) Progressives prize identitarian squabbles above all else, and
c) Vermont is fairly progressive, then
a black woman in progressive Vermont is bound to quit politics out of racial sensitivity.
So brave.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the next Dem Senate candidate for Vermont.This was her first campaign statement.
Yep. It worked. I’ve looked for evidence of these threats and shit and never been satisfied. I really think it’s bogus.
VT is fucked. Scott signed gun laws and pissed off half the state. He might hold on to re-election but I don’t think he will after pissing his base off.
The alternative is to vote for the trans lady whose platform is I’m a trans lady and I want all guns to be illegal and single payer healthcare because even though the last Dem tried that and realized it would bankrupt the state, he was a dummy and this time raising taxes and the minimum wage will totally work.
We’re fucked. If she wins I move to New Hampshire. I don’t care if I drive 4 hours a day for work.
So racist they elected her to office.
YES! Food is on! the 21st Century rocks………
RUT ROH! New poll suggests Democrats won’t sweep midterms. There might not be a blue wave!!!!!! Who would’ve guessed!?
There’s been a series of such notions since the beginning of the Judge K confirmation. They’ve been ratified here endlessly.
538 hasn’t budged on the house There are two possible reasons for that.
I’ll note that the Senate jumped/dropped after the Judge K hearing. But the house had been steady.
Senate projection
Scroll down for a handy timeline: Looks like a shift from 51 to 52 Blue on or about 2018-10-01, definitely during the heat of the hearings.
Hrs still got Sinema favored in AZ even after all her craziness was revealed?
looks like a horse race
Lots of neat stuff on that page: Arizona is 9.3 points more Republican than the nation overall and is the 23rd-most-Republican state in the country
The polls look pretty consistent: inconclusive (not that we know the future now, of course, or ever do). He’s got her as “lean D.”
I have no say in AZ representation, of course; I’m just intrigued on what the next Congress will look like. 538 shows the Senate narrowly Red and the House Blue by 30; I expect that the houses will be split and have been for some time.
Without land lines, that’s become a tricky business. After years of my own modeling and sales forecasting, including being horribly, horribly right about the coming of that last recession, I’ve become intrigued by the politics business. It’s like economics this wise: half their time predicting something something explaining why their model was wrong.
538 also keeps projecting a 36 seat gain for House Democrats, give or take, but if you count up the dots on the map showing which seats flip based on the polls, you keep coming up with the House being just under the tipping point of 23 seats for Democratic control.
I’m thinking that it gonna be reeeally close, as in not knowing for days after as they recount the close races.
There’s your problem. The response rate is so poor they haven’t had a ‘representative sample’ in decades.
Nate Silver has called one election correctly in his entire career, and it wasn’t exactly a tough one.
“We don’t call elections, we merely present the odds based on polling data available. Don’t blame us when it doesn’t turn out exactly the way we predicted. After all, a candidate with a 98% chance of victory still has a 2% chance of defeat.
Also, take me seriously because I’m a fucking serious person!!!!!”
-Nate Silver (after almost every single election)
WAPO was still calling it a Blue Tsunami as of yesterday. Not a wave or change election, a Tsunami.
IF the republicans keep the house the butthurt will be more epic than when Trump won.
Australia: The libertarian conspiracy behind the Ramsay Centre
Says the Guy who uses verbal merde……….
“Hyperbole and indignation are stock.”
Oh shit, they’re on to us!
Who’s indignation?
I’m just joking, there’s plenty on display at TOS though.
Indignation’s on third; Who’s on first.
I don’t know?
Snark. They forgot snark.
All are Tulpae!
Nobody expects the Libertarian Inquisition!
Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as flowery language, hyperbole and indignation, name dropping obscure intellectuals, and snark…. And wood chippers.
To reinforce their verbal merde, your basic libertarian will also name-drop obscure alleged intellectuals. The more obscure the better.
The libertarian’s objective is twofold — to confound the reader/listener, while at the same time asserting a bullying superiority.
It’s not your opponent’s fault that you’re so ignorant and incurious that you’ve never read any political philosophy since high school, and if you makes you feel inferior, perhaps you shouldn’t broadcast your stupidity and try to spin it as victimhood.
“name-drop obscure alleged intellectuals”
If Bastiat was a real intellectual, he’d have a NYT column like Krugman.
They don’t even include the Twitter famous!
I find libettarians a lot more clear in speech than leftists, seariously speaking
You mean to tell me that vacuous, leftist word salad does not strike you as thoughtful and clear communication? ///shitlord
I prefer my indignation of the “righteous” type.
>>Nate Silver takes a swipe at the media.
That sure is a punchable face. Just sayin’
How very non-NAP
SJWednesday: WE TOLD YOU SO Edition
You really should read the whole thing. It’s deliciously unhinged.
“We’re unable to convince anyone of our ideas because of your penises!”
Sure thing babe.
That’s brilliant, Pat. I’m stealing it.
Goddamnit did fascism rise in America and I missed it? I totally wanted to see that. Anyone got it recorded?
I mean you’d have to go back to at least the 30’s…
Eighteen months ago there was a gathering of maybe 100 far-right demonstrators in Charlottesville, VA.
“men literally own the media and supress and demonize our ideas”
Da fuck outta here with that BS
“literally” Whatever……
Well I’m sure some of the stock holders are men…
Not sure why this writer is obsessed with the 1930s. The rest of us have moved on.
PS–last night, PBS has a 2 hour documentary on Eugenics in America. It did a good job of tracing the direct line from “with the right men in charge, we can perfect society” to death camps. As usual, they learned no broader lessons.
That quotation was only sentences. It contained a Run on sentence, the likes of I haven’t seen in years. The concentration of commas and emdashes is toxic. It is the raving of someone unhinged.
His twitter is equally hyperbolic
So Mr. Lizard, have you let the fascists hijack the weather control satellites, or is this just part of your master plan?
Yes this deranged mammal is exhibiting a case of “right answer, wrong reason”
But I guess it will elementary once I start hawking tropical real estate on the shores of Lake Huron.
who are quite happy to use climate change as a tool of extermination
Enough about enviromarxists.
Replace “men” with Jews, blacks, gays or any other group and reprint it. You’d be run out of town for being a Nazi bigot in about five minutes.
American fascism rising
Enough about
AntiProfaand never really became much of a democracy
It was never supposed to be. It’s like American government is not even taught anymore.
“You can make me go to class, but you can’t make me learn anything, you fascist!”
America chose to be a patriarchy, long ago, and never really became much of a democracy.
The majority of voters are women, so I guess from this writer’s point of view women must prefer patriarchy. It’s a good thing that this writer’s grasp of logic is tenuous, or else his head might explode.
If you get right down to it, a lot of women do prefer patriarchy. It’s safer for them, easier and more comforting.
In today’s “I used to be a Republican like you, but then I took a Trump to the knee” story. I didn’t become a Republican to ‘own the libs’ with Kavanaugh. So I’m leaving the GOP.
“I thought Ford was believable and Kavanaugh should be presumed innocent until proven guilty, so as a compromise I think he should’ve suffered the consequences of being treated guilty.” Sounds legit. I’m totally sure you were a Republican your whole life until this horrible evil DRUMPF administration ruined the GOP.
I believed simultaneously that Christine Blasey Ford was a credible accuser, – why though? There was 0 evidence
Move out of Romania, you are losing it…..
Everything before the dash is a quote. Pie doesn’t believe in em, strong or blockquote
I don’t believe in tags
#skintagsarereal
The P Brooks of tags?
Well… bye
“The GOP ended up pulling off a purely partisan victory in confirming Kavanaugh — but it came at too high a cost for even a Republican like me to stomach.”
Thinking like that is why the Republicans have been outmaneuvered for the past 30 years despite being able to win elections.
See!!! The GOP has no support. You don’t see articles about people leaving the Dems for the GOP!!!! / Progs
The left is lucky that their deserters aren’t so self involved to constantly proclaim how good they are for leaving.
shame keeps them quite.
You don’t see articles about people leaving the Dems for the GOP!!!! / Progs
You will never see what you aren’t looking for.
Surprisingly, these types of articles tend to be published by the cheerleaders of the side that they make look good, so if one ignores one’s opponents’ cheerleaders one might miss it. #walkaway
In other words, you are a feckless moron.
I was curious who the author was. Its “Stephen Kent, Opinion contributor.” I did a web search. Wikipedia tells me “Stephen Kent is a professional didgeridoo performer.”
Don’t know if its the same guy, but in my head canon it is.
Study finds women with more ‘male’ hands – where the ring and index digits are of different sizes – ‘are more likely to be lesbian’
My four foot long ring finger is a PITA but ::Gallic shrug:: what are you going to do?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio
As a lesbian trapped in a man’s body,I see this is not true…
I got my ring finger trapped in a lesbian, once. I miss that finger.
When someone asks you what “burying the lede” means, show them this.
Misfortune often leads to early death. Bad luck can happen to anyone
Are you Drunk? Luck is a Romanian Joke right?
/Drunk Yusef
Literally not possible. The gulags were so humane it was practically a luxury vacation
“In September 1956 Kravchuk was posthumously acquitted of all charges”
See, guilty until proven innocent can work.
Speaking of burying the lede, see if you can guess the political party of the principal in this story:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/alaskas-lieutenant-governor-resigns-roiling-governors-race-1539744936
Aight boys. Job interview time in 16.
Time to take it to the hoop!
15 minutes to go! You got this
Hmmm in 16 I umderstood wrongly as at 16:00… comment still works though
If you see anyone in the office that looks reptilian. Just give a quick hiss, then bob your head up and down while looking at him. That agent should take care of you.
Good luck. We’re all counting on you.
…Wait. You’re talking about buttfucking, right?
This has nothing to do with anything, but you made me remember something that used to crack me up. In radar school, there was one guy in our class who attached “fucking” to every other word he spoke, it seemed. Frequently, when disagreeing with someone, he’d start a sentence by saying something like “But fucking that’s not what he said”…..and EVERY time this goofy surfer-dude type guy in the class would snicker and say “Buttfucking?” Every single time.
And that guy grew up to be….. a supreme court justice.
/Paul Harvey
“Hello, Americans, Paul Harvey here. Did you know every good American is at heart an erotic American?”
Spell well,
STEVE SMITH GIVE INTERVIEW TO HIKERS. BUT ONLY SEE BACK OF THEIR NECK.
AND MAYBE A FOOT OR SO OF THEIR COLON
Probably time to stop drinking.
Kick ass!
Good luck!
Film lifts lid on Austria’s secretive Glock pistol empire
Bang! nice….ty LH
Steve Wozniak would like a word.
The first Apple product was a methodology for manipulating smart autists. Wozniak was in fact involved, but as test subject no. 1 not as inventor.
made largely of non-metal components
Someone help me out here: are they talking about the synthetic grip/base, or did I entirely miss something about the original military submission? Glock barrels and slides are metal, of course…..what’s he talking about?
+1 Tupperware gun
That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me. You know what that is? It’s a porcelain gun made in Germany. Dosen’t show up on your airport X-ray machines, here, and it cost more than you make in a month.
My biggest beef with that movie was they made airport security look far more competent than the reality.
Yup, they’re talking about the Nylon 6 frame. The Glock 17 wasn’t the first pistol to have a plastic frame, but it was the first to be famous for it.
oh no not gangsters. Sir Humphrey would be appalled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIYfiRyPi3o
“Steve Jobs who invented the first Apple product in his garage.”
Nope. Jobs was more of a hanger-on and wannabe hacker. Wozniak built the first Apple computer; Jobs was the guy who figured out how to take it commercial.
It was Wozniak who invented the early Apple machines. So I’m going to ignore the rest of what Ofner says.
“Bunny Ranch brothel owner Dennis Hof died Tuesday, and DailyMail.com can reveal he had just had sex with one of his own prostitutes.
In an exclusive interview, porn actor Ron Jeremy revealed how he discovered the 72-year-old’s lifeless body on Tuesday at the Love Ranch South in Crystal, Nevada.
Hours earlier Hof had been celebrating his birthday at a campaign event in the Nugget Hotel in Parhump, Nevada as he prepared to compete in the general election for a seat in the House of Representatives.
He will still be in the race too, despite his sudden death.
Nevada Deputy Secretary of State for Elections Wayne Thorley says that since ballots with Hof’s name have been printed and mailed to voters he will not be removed from the race.
He did note however that signs will be posted at polling places notifying voters that the candidate has died.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6283331/Bunny-Ranch-brothel-owner-Dennis-Hof-dies-aged-72-just-weeks-general-election.html
I hope he wins. Is there a law against sending a dead pimp to Congress?
Claire Caskill
Mc caskill, whatever……
I’ve voted for him before and planned to again. Possibly still will.
ouch,
“Cherokee Nation to Elizabeth Warren: Drop dead. Cherokee Nation Secretary of State: “A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person’s ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. . . . Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Sen. Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.”
Blood based citizenship is a mockery. 14A says go fuck your Cherokee “Nation” pseudo government.
A cure for Alzheimer’s? Yes, a cure for Alzheimer’s!
https://joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com/2018/10/14/a-cure-for-alzheimers-yes-a-cure-for-alzheimers/
Good to know – since it runs rampant in my family.
Who are you, by the way? And how did I get here?
I’ve got Alzheimer’s, but at least I haven’t got Alzheimer’s!
let the water, hold me down….
I have a close friend who’s grandma had Alzheimer and her 23andme showed 2 gene mutations that predict Alzheimer so she is very committed to it ot happening to her. This seems to have the highest chances
Just as a guess to why, maybe the younger gals are scaring the shit out of the dudes
Decent, older men are all married. There’s nowhere for a single woman to go but younger if she wants a more target-rich environment.
My wife is a year older than I. Quite frankly the girls younger than me were too immature when I was dating.
that’s what second wives are for
She seems great…for now.
Lady C called Piers Morgan ‘racist’ for labelling Meghan and Harry’s child ‘the first black royal baby’
Wait, who’s the racist?
Man, that one drop policy is making a big come back this week.
does this mean the U.S. still hasn’t had a black president? America’s racism confirmed!
I’m trying to think of an equivalent term to Bible Thumper for these people.
So first royal… octoroon baby?
Uffda. Attacking GOP candidates seems to be a trend now in Sunny Minnesoda. An “anarchist” attacked a GOP candidate very near to where Tundra and I live yesterday.
I put anarchist in quotes because I’d be willing to lay down cash money that this guy doesn’t know the first thing about anarchism and is just a nut who wants to tear down the current system and replace it with his own system. Which would look a lot like socialism to the outsider.
You live with Tundra now?
I took advantage of his wife missing his son now that he moved off to college. I got her to formally adopt me and now I spend all my time in Tundra’s basement playing video games. Pretty sweet deal.
Well it would be a sweet deal if Tundra would get on board with the plan.
YOUR’E GO GET A GODDAMN JOB RIGHT GODDAMN NOW!
*slams door*
NO, i am above the Law! I will build Army Men!
Do you have a white cat? You should get a white cat to sit in your lap while you are building your army. Occasionally pet it and say things about world domination.
No way! I’m going to waste my entire day on Glibs!
I LEARNED IT FROM YOU DAD!!!!!
Some of us have a job AND waste entire days on Glibs!
So… in this relation, who pitches and who catches?
Or do you switch days?
Is that what anarchy is? Sign me up!
“BIG ERN IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!!”
I know the guys at PowerLine can be grade A tools at times, but they do run great posts that summarize memes. This one about Liz Warren is especially brutal.
“Bolsheviks are not an Indian tribe”
GOTEEEEEEEEEEEM
They’re very good on some things, awful on others. So, pretty much like 90% of the web sites out there.
Se we are part of the 10 percenters?
Nah, we suck, too.
I tend to keep up with them because they are local boys and cover some local stories that I care about (Ellison, Noor, Omar, etc.)
But holy shit do they suck statist cock some times (there love for Tom Cotton is embarrassing). I also thought Rand Paul had more of a chance than he did because those guys fucking hated him. I thought their fear must mean that they are worried that they might lose their neocon toys if Rand won.
They absolutely do trend towards statism (mainly the original three, not Hayward as much). Still, they write some good takedowns of Dems.
If I remember correctly, Cotton first became semi-well known by writing for them back when he was in the army.
They’ve really pissed me off lately with their balls to the wall ranting about any type of sentencing reform legislation. They are ISIS level hatred for any apostates who might want to show leniency to any prisoner who is locked up for any non-violent crimes.
Yes indeed. I haven’t bothered reading any of those articles because I know in advance how awful they are.
The one with the white jeep was much better
Thicc?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6285401/Demi-Rose-23-shares-sweet-throwback-snap-dad-Barrie-two-weeks-tragic-death-aged-80.html
No
MIT’s AI can identify breast cancer risk as reliably as a radiologist
deep-learning model
BRB off to say the magic words to venture capital firms and raise a couple hundred million
I’m more interested in dense breast tissue.
Cancer fetish?
‘I’m a single mom! I don’t need no man! Respect me!’
Get a job!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-lYj9e8l8
Did they really make her part of a ring? Why? Why such a low blow?
Am I the only one who finds it pathetic none of the cast members (to my knowledge) except for Goodman (I hear according to my wife) came to her defence?
She made that cast and their careers. That show is ROSEANNE. Not the fricken Conners.
It’s stupid ABC thought they could move on without her. I can’t believe somewhere in that company someone doesn’t think ‘hey, I think we over reacted a tiny bit’.
No you’rr not. See my comment above. I can’t believe not only that nobody stuck up for her, but that they’d now go along with this story line. It’s bullshit.
See the #1 comment
/Nap time!
Sara Gilbert’s a diesel dyke with her own wing on the SJW plantation and she executive produced the reboot, so…
She’s the worst one. She ain’t got no career without Roseanne.
The balls these people have. They stole her show and think it’s alright because of a stupid Tweet.
Sorta like what they’re trying to do to Papa John.
Bloody parasites.
Roseanne claims she allowed them the rights to continue the show. True or not, dunno.
Yeah, so it wouldn’t put all of the people working on the show out of their jobs (well, until the show gets cancelled for being a flop).
If true, it makes Barr a far more classy person than I ever thought she was.
My son and his buddies all openly mock Papa John’s (corp) now when one of those commercials come on where they try to pretend they and not Papa John (the person) are what is important.
Granted they are 17/18 year old shit lords, but it is nice to know that not every kid has been broken on the SJWheel
“Use coupon code “NIGGER” for 50% off!”
‘Use coupon code ‘Coon’ for a free pizza!’
Not 40% (3/5) off?
Actually, the new board are woke so it would be ‘Use promo code ‘cracker’ for 10% off!’
Bless your heart.
Huh. That is the same coupon code I used to get a 50% discount on sheets at Walmart.
It’s like Barney Miller without Lou Reed.
Say what now?
I would also like to point out that I meant they are shit lords who are either 17 years old or 18 years old.
NOT year old babies who are bragging about the purity of their shit lord status (17/18ths suck on that Liz).
So THEY are the reason the pizza is shite and it’s not just the founder not knowing shit about making good pizza.
I didn’t realize that idiot was ExecProd. That explains a lot…and makes it even sadder. As Rufus points out, she owes her entire career to Roseanne.
“but that they’d now go along with this story line.”
Contractural obligations maybe?
Truckloads of cash for Goodman. A last gasp of a career for the rest.
On second thought, if they are willing to do Roseanne without Roseanne FFS, apparently nobody has enough pull to change anything (I mean even if any of them wanted to)
I blame Garfield Minus Garfield, which shows that a comic strip can be better if you remove the main character. The execs apparently didn’t realize that this doesn’t hold true across all comics and mediums.
Ha-ha. That’s kind of funny.
It’s really not much different than when the movie studios would pay for abortions and pay off one night stands, local cops, etc… to preserve the image of their top stars. It’s just a different set of standards.
Sorta like today’s NCAA.
I’d like to add they couldn’t just let her die of a heart attack and move on? They had to make part of a ring and addicted to opiates? Talk about classless shitheads at ABC. The writers showed their true colors: Evil.
Car crash.
Fuck, I’d let it get political and have some mass shooting. That’s still better than what they did.
I’m sure without Roseanne there, this was their chance to go full SJW. Just dying doesn’t provide any life lessons to anyone. This way they can help us deplorables realize that opioids are bad.
The horror show I would love to watch is the list of SJW causes that they decided not to use. “Obesity. No gun violence, no raped by a Tea Party deplorable, no….”
In fact, I can’t believe she wasn’t raped by a White Supremacist opioid dealer and then shot (in a school).
Or that she was the first woman to join Proud Boys.
In fact, since they made a mess of it, that should be the arc now. Every episode they find out something new about Roseanne and her ‘alt-right’ connections.
I’m sure we can come up with a few.
Hidden postcards from Charleston and pics of her “friends” doing a tiki torch parade?
” I can’t believe somewhere in that company someone doesn’t think ‘hey, I think we over reacted a tiny bit’.”
I’m sure most of them think that, but few, if any, would say it.
From the whiny “I Quit You, Republikkkinz!” thing:
Still, it’s not entirely clear to me why the Kavanaugh confirmation debacle was the final straw in my strained relationship with the Republican Party. But at the end of the day, your affiliations and associations should bring you a sense of pride — and there was nothing dignified about this win for Republicans.
I’m not sure what’s next in my own political journey, but I know it won’t be within the two major parties that gleefully destroyed the lives of multiple families in a single month. It’ll be an adjustment, but I’ll be happier on my own — and I think you would be too.
Sounds like our junior political consultant is out of a job, and is beaming his “resume” in the direction of Third Way. If those guys don’t want him, maybe Bill Weld needs a
personal assistantflunky.Why do these people think anyone gives a shit what party some rando supports and for what reasons?
Ya I’ve been seeing some narritive push on Disqus about how Team red lost the moral high ground for celebrating the Kavanaugh win. As if that was more repugnant than a baseless smear campaign.
Needed: a Better Guide for Choosing Colleges
That rate should mean shuttered colleges across the country. But of course it doesn’t.
Great first line, though.
“The dropout rate for community college students exceeds 71 percent.”
There’s a bullshit stat if I ever saw one.
Yeah, my guess is they’re saying 71% of cc students don’t earn their diplomas. I think a large majority of cc students go there to get their Gen Eds done at a lower tuition rate then transfer to a 4-year school. The 41% number, however, tracks from what I know.
A large majority of cc students are there for a job skills course or two and have no interest in taking 20 courses in order to get a degree.
Hell, I’m old enough to remember when the large majority of cc students were there in order to avoid the draft.
Yeah, also a good point.
I chose UVA over William & Mary because I had always heard that while UVA was a bit tougher to get into, W&M was a harder school once you were in.
Going to school to bang hot chicks? What a dope. What you want is to spend a decade or so at a moderately-prestigious engineering school in the north, where you usually don’t notice that the weather is too terrible to go outside because you’re stuck inside doing math.
This guy gets it.
And you’ll get laid, but not as often as you want to, because there’s a 2-1 M-F ratio, and the girls aren’t as hot as you want, because they’re nerds, but it’s all right, because nerd girls are perverts. And everything will work out fine, because you did all that math.
It’s like you knew me in college.
You went to Carnegie-Mellon too?
68% male when I was there. I knew the 8 hot girls on campus. I’m not even good at math!
That’s cheating, Carnegie-Mellon is within walking distance of Pitt, where a fair number of young ladies go to get an MRS degree.
True, Pitt chicks did head to CMU to party from time to time.
Hillary swoops in to save the Menendez campaign – and crashes.
Women drivers amirite?
lol.
Losers.
Sloopy Tuesday a.m. links: “Today is a really big day for me. I’ll tell ya’ll why tomorrow. But its a big day for me. So my stress level will be high.”
*Waits in breathless anticipation*
Hump day?
Take a breath, He’ll be a while, auctions are time consuming,
SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL ACCUSES HER OPPONENT OF PLANTING SOMEONE IN HER CAMPAIGN
“It is startling that Josh Hawley would be part of fraudulently embedding somebody in my campaign. He’s the Attorney General of the state of Missouri. He’s supposed to be going after fraud, not participating in it,” McCaskill stated. “In fact now I remember that very individual talking to me trying to get me to say, to get me to say something different than what my positions are. And I said no you’ve just got to tell people on the doors it is what it is.”
Although Hawley is using the Project Veritas video to further his campaign, neither he nor Project Veritas has given any indication that Hawley was in any way involved in “embedding somebody” in McCaskill’s campaign.
Shorter McCaskill: “People found out what I really think and that’s not fair!”
PV exposes what most reasonable people already knew.
Maybe Hawley had “proof” that McCaskill’s campaign was colluding with Russians. I’ve heard that in that case it is totes legit to plant spies in a campaign.
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
Woman in viral video with black man speaks out after being fired, defends her actions
Sounds like she has a defamation settlement coming in her future. Usually these cases are busy bodies. In this case I think the woman did the right thing. Unfortunately she was race baited and lost her job.
It’s bullshit.
So you’re sitting at home watching TV and see that video. “Think I’ll go make me death threat.”
There are a lot of unhinged losers out there.
“Microaggressions have not been defined with nearly enough clarity and consensus to allow rigorous scientific investigation. No one has shown that they are interpreted negatively by all or even most minority groups. No one has demonstrated that they reflect implicit prejudice or aggression. And no one has shown that microaggressions exert an adverse impact on mental health.
I am hardly the first to raise questions regarding this body of research. Over the past few years in particular, the microaggression concept has been the target of withering attacks from social critics, especially – although not exclusively – on the right side of the political spectrum. These writers have raised legitimate concerns that concepts such as microaggression and trigger warnings (warnings to people regarding distressing material to come) along with so-called protective safe spaces can at times discourage controversial or unpopular speech, and inadvertently perpetuate a victim culture among aggrieved individuals.
My major concern is the rigour of the psychological science itself. In no way do I deny that subtle forms of prejudice exist and are becoming more prevalent in some sectors of society. Nor do I wish to discourage, let alone reject, research into implicit, or unconscious, prejudice. Nor do I contend that microaggressions don’t exist (even if a Breitbart story on my work claims the contrary). Instead, I contend only that microaggressions must be studied properly before we can claim to know their impact or the best ways of reducing the pain that they might cause. Good intentions are a start, but they are not sufficient.”
https://aeon.co/essays/why-a-moratorium-on-microaggressions-policies-is-needed
“The National Science Foundation is spending over $350,000 studying “microaggressions” in college engineering programs using an “intersectional perspective.”
The joint project is being conducted by Iowa State University and North Carolina Agricultural & Technical State University. The project was awarded this summer, though research will not begin until Jan. 1, 2019.”
https://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-spend-368695-studying-microaggressions-engineering-programs/
How To Commit Career Suicide In One Easy Step
the microaggression concept has been the target of withering attacks from social critics
That’s because it is, in a word, retarded.
“Today I learned mapping apps sometimes send drivers on less-than-optimal routes in order to use them as guinea pigs to generate data. That’s fucked up! ”
https://twitter.com/AdrianChen/status/1052327338631811072
Here’s a question – do Google Maps and Waze suck fucking ass for everyone these days, or is it just me? Constantly re-routing, and sometimes can’t even accurately place my location on the map.
On the rare occasions when I need a map I go to Google or Bing, type in the address, and then just manually route it like I did back in the Microsoft Streets and Trips days. When I drive into Las Vegas Google always wants to route me through a convoluted spaghetti bowl of 2 or 3 interstates for every destination when main arterials require both less overall distance traveled and less travel time.
Google Maps is at least decent about warning me about accidents and slow-downs along my drive into work. I’ve learned that it sucks ass at predicting how long of a delay it will be. Now I just go with an alternate route if there’s any warning about accidents or slow-downs. Last time I listened to the predicted time, an estimated 5 minute delay (not bad, I can deal with it) was a 45 minute delay (fuck, FUCK, FUCK).
I’ve been a devotee of Here Maps (formerly Nokia Maps, and formerly Navteq) for quite some time. There’s no “crowdsourcing” traffic conditions feature like the others have, but it’s always been consistent and reliable.
And I sure could have used some navigational guidance in submitting this post, as it was intended to be a reply to Chipwooder.
These writers have raised legitimate concerns that concepts such as microaggression and trigger warnings (warnings to people regarding distressing material to come) along with so-called protective safe spaces can at times discourage controversial or unpopular speech, and inadvertently perpetuate a victim culture among aggrieved individuals.
Yeah, that’s right; “inadvertently”.
Invisible Finger-
Thanks for posting that Mencken screed about farmers, the other day. I had forgotten about it. It always makes me laugh.
Roseanne got off easy. If she had been a man, she would have been found hanging from a joist in the basement, pants around ankles.
Who knows what really happened or why
Jefferson County’s administrator said Tuesday that the county government considered the event at the senior center “political activity,” which isn’t allowed during county-sponsored events.
Can anyone make an iota of sense out of this?
“Evans said she helped coordinate the event in her capacity as a private citizen, pastor and community leader, not as the chairwoman of the county’s Democratic Party.”
Sigh.
“Make no mistake: A lawsuit against Harvard that’s purported to represent the interests of Asian-Americans would, if successful, primarily benefit white students.”
https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1051626960537808898
This is what happens when ideology is based on sorting people into arbitrary groups.
That’s the stupidest take they could possibly put forward. The ACLU has become a sad and politicized joke.
That’s the official narrative on this case. I posted this linkfrom a couple months ago upthread.
They need to change their name since they have made it clear that civil liberties no longer are any sort of priority for them.
The first response said it all.
OMG WE CAN’T HAVE THAT!
The ACLU is fucking clown shoes.
If they were real, I’d beat the shit out of them for being so stupid!
White people don’t have Civil Liberties too?
Not if the grievance mongers can keep getting their way.
This is the kind of bullshit that would have a young white man in his 20s asking himself ‘You know, maybe the Alt-Right people have a point.”
Fuck the ACLU… another institution that used to stand for something good that has been corrupted by SJW nonsense.
Best comment:
Immerse yourself in the concupiscent curves of these luscious lasses.
http://archive.is/tJJ73
11, 15, 24, 41. 16 gets the THICC award.
20 and 30. Which might actually be the same girl.
Q wrote: “…concupiscent curves…”
Flowery language! Q must be one of those Libertarian shitlords
Bitches ain’t got shit.
They are in love with me. Already set up a second interview for next Tuesday. The only thing *they* don’t like is that I’m not available full time until early January. The only thing that *I* don’t like is….I’m very concerned about the pay. I know I’m going to be living in a very cheap country…but….well. They at least have a 3 month intro contract, so it looks like I should at least have startup-and-float money for my first bit in Thailand. Worst case put that on my resume and I can always freelance for them.
They’ve also invited me to start online editing and proofreading immediately. I’ll put in 5-10 or whatever hours a week to get my foot in the door and make some o’ dat side $$$$.
Sorry suckers who are still at work. I’m going to have a fancy beer. (Well. An IPA Stone. Which is good! Not the best. But it’s about the best that I can get here. Fucking $7. Although it’s true the beer selection here has transformed tremendously since I’ve been here. Used to legit just be Cass and Hite. I can get many funky things now, at cost.)
Kings to me.
congrats, shitlord; I hear they have excellent orphan supply in Thailand
Ima match you by golfing today: the pure double joy of having the course to yourself because it’s 50F
One night in Bangkok will make you humble.
He gets his kicks above the waistline, sunshine.
Congrats man.
In other beer news, Cleveland beer week continues. In glassware included in event tickets (or free) two Platform shakers, a Fat Head’s/Jameson’s shaker, two Jameson’s shot glasses, an Abita pint glass, and a Platform Coffee Mug. I’ll be stopping at a local brewery to pick something up for the BIF, which I plan to ship out on Monday. And I get to look forward to digging through my BIF package tonight, it’s on the truck for delivery now.
Hey guys, longtime lurker and admirer of this site. Just looking for some help. In an online debate about socialism and Venezuela and i have a bunch of lefties showings articles and making arguments about how. Socialism isnt to blame for whats happened there. Not good at this stuff, how do i counter? Thanks in advance.
You don’t they are beyond reach.
What are the arguments?… Something something obligatory Tulpa comment.
Longtime lurker should be prepared for that fight already. *Sniffs for Tulpa scent*
You can sniff for yourself, Tulpa?
This is the article they used.https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/socialism-as-a-set-of-principles
Sweet zombie cheebus. Who was looking for the argument that Socialism in the younger generation is a religion:
The article compares Capitalism to a finely tuned engine, while Socialism is just editing a book to make it better. And it claims to be written by a libertarian socialist (who apparently understands neither of those words).
And the entire article failed to address the price calculation problem. It’s just gibberish made to sound compassionate.
Then there was the constant use of the word ownership as having decision making power over something. And it’s unfair to have a factory close or relocate and that’s why the workers have to own the means of production (is it just given to them, do they buy in with shares, what happens when the factory is operating at a loss?) and it’s unfair to rent an apartment for 30 years and then have to move. Then misstating capitalism as the person with the most resources makes the decisions. No you fuckwit, it’s the person who owns the thing that makes the decisions, which is what you claim you want it to mean!
I can already see that turd shiner in the factory feeling proud about his hard labor netting him the same pay as that car mechanic! Sweet
they measure any economic system by the degree to which it is humane and democratic
If they actually do this, why do they support socialism, which is neither humane nor democratic?
Start by reading this https://mises.org/wire/4-reasons-why-socialism-fails.
https://youtu.be/blrHHRWKygw
Get them to expound on why exactly socialism isn’t responsible, point out that they’re engaging in the most basic No True Scotsman type of sophistry and dip.
Better still, let a three minute pop song explain it to them.
The Third Reich wasn’t real Nazism. Real Nazism has never been tried.
That’s kind of my new go to for the “NOT REEL SOSHULIZM” bullshit.
Better yet, tell them that Nazism is also socialism.
They will just shriek that it wasn’t really. Trust me, I’ve tried.
“But its right there in the name!”
Which is just ignorant because the economic aspect of Nazism is definably socialism.
The funny part is that you can only distinguish it as not-socialism by adopting the Soviet model of socialism.
And even funnier is that the “democratic socialism” they claim to want, with more decentralized/”democratic” control of the means of production, maps very easily onto the small-s soviets of the USSR.
Do they mention State Capitalism?
And the way to counter is to stop arguing online with people that won’t argue in good faith.
The proper response is “Venezuela was declared a socialist state by socialists and supported by socialists around the world. The burden is on you to show why it isn’t socialism.”
Thanks so much guys. Appreciate it.
Point out how a mere half-decade ago Venezuela was held aloft by the Western left as a shining ideal of socialism and that none of Venezuela’s policies that earned them this status have changed since. They don’t get to disown this just because the inevitable outcome wasn’t what they expected.
Fuck off, Tulpa.
Socialism isnt to blame for whats happened there.
They’ve got you dead to rights. Greed and self-aggrandisement do not exist in socialist countries.
It was just bad luck, and capitalist subterfuge.
Self-lubricating condom designed to reduce infections
“It could withstand intercourse involving at least 1,000 thrusts”
As long as I can pick my lab partner, I’m more than happy to be a part of the testing of this.
STEVE SMITH GET NEW LAB COAT LIKE TO SHOW YOU!
Palo Alto is crap. If anyone rolls out that proxy near you, run away fast.
I just spent two days unable to access anything from work (even work-related sites) because of that thing.
Is it the network device that is the problem, or the moron operating it? 9 times out of 10 it is the latter, though I have no comment on that particular brand.
It’s the same morons operating it, but it’s had far more problems since we switched than even the craptastic zScalar.
Is cat butting a mainstream joke?
I was watching Big Mouth last night and they made jokes about feeding someone through a wood chipper and cat butting. Found it a little coincidental, but the show also got extremely progressive so probably not a lurker writer.
don’t watch the video
You only have to be concerned if they reference ZARDOZ and a cryptid who likes to have fun with hikers.
I seem to remember a background reference to ZARDOZ in one episode (the Planned Parenthood one).
I thought they did ZARDOZ too.
So jokes about ZARDOZ, cat butting, and wood-chippers in a span of 3 episodes.
*adjusts tin-foil hat*
Wait, does this mean we’re becoming mainstream?
GLIBERTARIAN MOMENT!
Either that or one of you is moonlighting.
Or is it gaslighting?
[golf clap] for Bobarian.
Website won’t let me reply directly to him. Threading limit exceeded?
Yes. After a certain thread depth you just have to keep replying to the last available reply button.
I thought you’ve been here since the start. Are you just now noticing?
No. I made it up out of whole cloth before the site started.
RE: Out of wedlock birth rate.
I don’t consider myself a full-on culture warrior, but I do think that Andrew Breitbart got it right when he said that politics is downstream of culture. Women, much more than men, are immersed in celebrity culture and there are two models of family life that celebrities seem to model:
1. Having a child out of wedlock very young with some random baby daddy who ends up not really being involved.
2. Waiting to start a “traditional” family after the age of 40.
Celebrities can get away with number 1 because they’ve got piles of money with which they can buy the support they need and not have single motherhood be such a hardship. Number 2 gives so-called “career women” unreasonable expectations of their own biology since, again, the celebrities have an essentially unlimited supply of money for IVF treatments, donor eggs, surrogates etc. Even said career woman making decent money can’t afford all of that.
These celebrity women, of course, are not the foot soldiers in the culture war and do not realize that their actions play into a progressive playbook, but the progressives in media and government definitely promote these as the only legitimate options of family creation. Then again, the libertarian impulse in me says that if you give people freedom to choose, you have to be prepared to accept that they’ll make the “wrong” choices. Setting aside politics, it’s pretty clear that children from regular, nuclear families do a lot better on average. However, the real problem that I have is the growth of government that inevitably comes from both choices, whether it be welfare to support single motherhood, or regulatory requirements for insurance to cover fertility treatments.
#1 is important. Being a single mother is easy when you can afford nannies. It’s quite a bit harder when you have three kids on your own and you’re working two jobs to try to make ends meet and have to spend an immense amount of money on daycare.
Except that is by and large not what is happening.
from the article…
They fathers are involved and the couple are living together, they just aren’t bothering to go through the ceremonial or legal step of getting married before they have kids
Brooks: you’re welcome
The jiggery-pokery apocalypse is upon us.
Now imagine the effect of deep fakes on a close election. Let’s say video is posted of Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat running for Senate in Texas, swearing that he wants to take away every last gun in Texas, or of Senator Susan Collins of Maine saying she’s changed her mind on Brett Kavanaugh. Before the fraud can be properly refuted, the polls open. The chaos that might ensue — well, let’s just say it’s everything Vladimir Putin ever dreamed of.
There’s more: The “liar’s dividend” will now apply even to people, like Mr. Trump, who actually did say something terrible. In the era of deep fakes, it will be simple enough for a guilty party simply to deny reality. Mr. Trump, in fact, has claimed that the infamous recording of him suggesting grabbing women by their nether parts is not really him. This, after apologizing for it.
If you want to learn more about the dangers posed by deep fakes, you can read the new report by Bobby Chesney and Danielle Keats Citron at the Social Science Research Network. It’s a remarkable piece of scholarship — although I wouldn’t dive in if your primary goal is to sleep better at night.
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It is possible, however, that some good will come out of the deep fakes menace. Maybe we will better understand that the truth is both precious and endangered. Perhaps we will learn to pause before giving in to internet-stoked spleen.
Above all, we have to more fiercely call out and refute manipulative liars — as well as the people who insist on believing their fictions.
We have entered a realm of CGI political spoofery in which truth no longer exists. I blame the Nazi scientists on the moon.
I’m assuming the risk all goes one way politically.
NPR has been hyperventilating about this for years. The problem as I see it is everybody already knows the politicians are full of shit, so I don’t see it as much of a game changer.
That sounds like a reason to limit government power as much as possible.
And here I thought this was only useful for superimposing Gisele Bundchen’s face on porn actresses.
How are our lies going to have any impact when literally everything else is also a lie? It’s a problem.
Easy! We need to have better lies!
So this person agrees with me that we should stop early voting and severely curtail absentee voting?
After all think of the poor rubes who can’t properly spot the Russian dog whistles who show up to cast an early vote before the good thinkers are able to “prove” McCaskill was the victim of “editing”? They could cast their votes for some nazi!
It’s a remarkable piece of scholarship
Sure it is.
FUN MORNING! Someone smashed into my car in the parking lot. Damage seems to be physical only but they took off the front bumper (which is dragging on the ground). Whoever did it ran off. Called the police (y’all know how much I LOVE to do that, but have to for insurance) and got a report. FML.
Sucks. At least there was no emotional damage.
Sorry 🙁
Turn your car into an armored wasteland vehicle with nitrous tanks and some bodies as bumpers.
Some inspiration:
https://jalopnik.com/the-strangest-desert-festival-in-the-world-makes-everyo-1829467474
Sucks.
I hope they didn’t take the $1000 you had sitting on the dashboard.
I’ve just become convinced that the reason the Left are so angry and shrill and lash out so much lately is because by 2016, they thought they’d WON the culture wars, permanently, and that it would be smooth sailing for their ideology from here on out.
Is that the reason for all the wailing and gnashing of teeth? Of ‘trans-men’ living as dogs, children getting to pick their gender, the creation of pronouns like ‘xir,’ etc., ad nauseum?
It makes sense to me. It explains why they’re so emotional about the whole thing, having a years-long temper tantrum.
Thoughts?
You’re on to something: playing the victim works because we’re social animals; it’s hard not to herd around the wounded.
But, like always, there’s enough sin to go around. I hear the country is going to hell because A can’t force B’s kid to recite his prayer school, because C can’t prevent D’s having an abortion. That gag has been running since Reagan/Falwell.
Minding one’s own business isn’t the way anymore; the state is weaponized, and everyone else is the enemy. Just being who I want to be, building the products and services I excel at, and making my own way aren’t good enough for anyone.
But, like always, there’s enough sin to go around. I hear the country is going to hell because A can’t force B’s kid to recite his prayer school, because C can’t prevent D’s having an abortion.
I get your point. But, I’m not sure I can agree. I mean, those battles have been fought. And the socially conservative statists lost. I mean, even abortion is sort of a back burner thing with most conservatives (liberal organizations’ donation requests notwithstanding) and I don’t remember the last time I heard anyone bring up school prayer. Today, the bigger issue for them seems to be not having to bake a gay wedding cake. And libertarians should agree with them on that one on principle.
I’m not saying that socially conservative statists wouldn’t go back to their old ways if they got the chance. But, at least in the here and now, they’re a lot less of a threat to liberty than the social justice cadres.
That gag has been running since Reagan/Falwell.
It’s about as dead as Reagan and Falwell too. As wdalasio says, that generation of social wars is long over. The combatants are dead or dying. No one under 40, hell, practically no one under 50, really gives a shit about those issues anymore, and even if they did they have no cohort to sell it to.
I see it as two fold. One hysterical base exists in a total bubble, the people that share their believes are totally dominant in the media which lead you to believe that they represent the population as a whole, when they absolutely don’t. Secondly Obama and Clinton sucked the coffers of the DNC dry and hung the entire Midwest out to dry with both their policies and starving their local apparatus and focusing totally on federally centralizing power because they figured they had the electoral college in the bag. Their strategy failed and since self reflection would lead to throwing both the Obama and Clinton people under the bus/firing them they can’t/won’t pull the bandaide off. But the people running things aren’t true believers they know what they are doing but they can’t admit they were wrong because that would demand a change of leadership and they aren’t ready to remove themselves. So they are doubling down to preserve their jobs.
When your identity is wrapped in your ideology, and your ideology tells you idiotic things like you are smarter than those that don’t subscribe to your ideology or that those that don’t believe what you do are doing so out of darker motives (they are evil), then losing basically challenges/stresses your belief system drastically. Realizing that you ideology is weak sauce shit and actually quite dumb, would destroy your identity, making you not the special snowflake you thought you were. That is a hard thing for these type of people to do.
That’s a big part of it. But there is another big part as well.
As part of the great sort – whereby progressives congregate in urban areas and conservatives remain in rural areas – most people’s identity structure is more closely aligned with their political tribe. That is, a Republican is highly likely to be part of the gun culture, christian (esp evangelical) culture, team-sports-watching culture etc. A Democrat is highly likely to be part of the taco-truck-and-brunch culture, secular-or-minority-religion culture, new-pronoun-using culture, feminist culture, solo-athletics culture etc. There is much less of an eclectic mix for people (ie marathon-running Jewish Republicans or beer-league-baseball-playing evangelical-christian Democrats) which means that these other cultural markers become part of what it means to be a Republican or Democrat.
There are no Southern / Blue Dog Democrats or Country Club Republicans any more.
So when Dems and Repubs clash in the poles, for many people, its a clash of their entire identity. Everyone in their circle of care is part of the same tribe and agrees on both the politics and other cultural signals. An electoral loss isn’t just an attack on their politics, it is an attack on all those other features that are now aligned with being a Dem or being a Repub. Its an attack on their entire identity and everyone they care about. The brunch-eating, secular, xir-using Democrat doesn’t have a sample of brunch-eating, secular, xir-using Republicans in their circle of care, which means they don’t have to temper their gloating when they win for social reasons, and they don’t have any first hand experience with a brunch-eating, secular xir-user that they have acknowledge the basic humanity of when they win. (and this is mirrored for Republicans as well).
When people’s entire identity is under assault, they get defensive, tribal, and violent. When they don’t have to temper their tantrums, they act on it. When they don’t have to acknowledge the humanity of their opponents, they don’t even think what they are doing is wrong.
by 2016, they thought they’d WON the culture wars
That, but as or more important was that they thought they would get permanent control of weaponized and politicized federal government. They had the weaponized Obama Deep State, they would have the Presidency with Obama pen-and-phone powers, and Hillary would appoint at least two proggy Justices and lock in SCOTUS as a tool of “fundamental transformation”.* They are down now to #resisters in the Deep State, and scrapping for a razor-thin and impermanent margin of control on what has become the least important part of our government – Congress.
*I believe that if Hillary had won, she would have already appointed 3 proggy Justices – one for each of the two vacancies Trump filled, and Ginsburg’s seat, because RGB would have retired to let Teh First Womyn President appoint her replacement. And without Trump changing the dynamic in the Senate, the Repubs would still be supine and would have approved her appointments.
Palo Alto is crap.
No kidding. It’s packed to the rafters with liberal yuppie Californians.
No offense to any Glibs in that neighborhood but:
Bay Area = overpriced, overregulated, overrated.
I’ve just become convinced that the reason the Left are so angry and shrill and lash out so much lately is because by 2016, they thought they’d WON the culture wars, permanently, and that it would be smooth sailing for their ideology from here on out.
I agree. Just look at all the shrieking about the destruction of Obama’s “legacy”.
Oh, dear God. Just when I thought the proggies couldn’t make things any worse in NJ:
The Senate Environment and Energy Committee passed a resolution this week asking voters to approve a constitutional amendment saying every person has a right to a clean and healthy environment in New Jersey.
That’s not open ended at all.
L. O. Fucking. L.
That’s a Bizarro World interpretation if I’ve ever heard one.
It would act as a check on governmental authority to reduce or eliminate environmental regulations.
Interesting, It sounds to me like it would make NJ gov’t authority limitless.
I think such a right gives you carte blanche to kill government employees.
Gee, who will decide what constitutes a “clean and healthy environment”?
The marxists, and that’s even though marxism has probably the poorest environmental record out there…
Everyone has a positive right to a pony.
*looks around, no ponies in sight*
I wonder why it always works out that way
Well played.
The millennial embrace of socialism, then, does not mean that millennials are trying to implement some complicated new economic system that they do not understand. It means that they measure any economic system by the degree to which it is humane and democratic, and they are angered by the degree to which our current one fails people. It means that they reject selfishness and believe in solidarity. And it means that they are determined to help each other build something better, whatever that may be.
Infantile emotionalism; it’s what’s for dinner.
“It means that they measure any economic system by the degree to which it is humane and democratic”
Since socialism *ALWAYS* fails economically and usually ends up with either organized or disorganized mass death I find this premise to be in opposition to reality.
When signaling is more important than outcomes, this is what you get.
It means that they reject selfishness and believe in solidarity. And it means that they are determined to help each other build something better, whatever that may be.
Except God Forbid they don’t get the newest version of the iPhone! This kind of thinking smacks to me of the kind of people who think electricity comes from the socket and meat comes from the store. They “reject selfishness” because they’ve never been denied a damned thing in their lives.
Nitwits are always asking “Dear Abby” if something they are doing is “selfish.” I’m not Zardoz but for goodness sake, Abby, tell them “Yes, it is selfish and there’s not a damn thing wrong with that.”
…and ending up sipping hot chocolate in a bathtub when things don’t go their way.
And that’s the very optimistic outcome. Sadly, a more likely outcome will be a generation where a large portion of the young men grow up with no role model of even remotely responsible masculinity who take their cues regarding manhood from their equally hormone deranged peers.
You often enough hear feminists pine for a world where masculinity is sidelined. What they fail to acknowledge is that we already have enclaves of such in the United States. If you walk around the South Bronx, East New York, North Philadelphia, Southeast DC, or South Central Los Angeles, you’ll find just that situation predominates.
That’s right. You’re just as likely if not more likely to wind up with Shuge Knight as you are Pajama Boy. It’s not every day you look to the movie Friday for role models, but the speech Craig’s dad gives about fighting with your fists, either winning or takin’ a whoopin’ like a man, and then putting it behind you so that everybody lives to fight another day is a big part of masculinity.
Hell, if you walk around college campuses, you will find masculinity sidelined as hell. More women than men, and a lot of the men are feminized skinny-jean soyboys.
Fun fact time!
The producer of Rosanne was Matt Williams, who is an Evansvillian. The exterior shots of the Connor house were filmed in Evansville. Apparently the new show is still using the same spot.
Here it is.
More fun! My friends had a place almost next door to it in 2005. It was right next to the University of Evansville where they studied. A lot of my Xmas vacation during my first year of university was spent there. The things that went down there were….epic.
Williams gave a talk to my high school. My dad either couldn’t or wouldn’t (autistic) make it and my job was to give Williams one of my dad’s various scripts. Even then I knew it was fucked that *I* was supposed to give it to him. Dad’s newspaper was maybe a 10 minute walk from there. I guess he was too intimidated to do it himself (which seems odd to me, knowing him. He must’ve been busy). I gave it to him and nothing else ever happened.
neat
“Project Veritas: Claire McCaskill Lies About Guns to her Constituents”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WIVRhcygrc
He seems overdressed.
“”People just can’t know that.” McCaskill Hides Agenda from Voters, “semi-automatic rifle ban””
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doh0d78lin4
Heh, they actually have her on video and not just her staff, that’s got to burn.
Hillary wants to make sure people remember to vote in….um…Wisconsin.
Hey, who said she can’t learn from her mistakes?
Well she only tweeted about it. It looks like she still refuses to travel to Wisconsin in person. Not that I blame her. Especially with the Packers playing. I’m sure there are still a few Packer Backers driving around drunk from Monday night’s game.
I’m sure there are still a few Packer Backers driving around drunk from
Monday night’s gamelast season.How LSD influenced Western culture
The rave era was the fucking nadir of western civilization. God I hated those fucks.
Either I was doing it wrong or said “mind-expansion” is ridiculously overstated.
Leary was right about (mind)set and setting as being the keys to LSD as something that could change your life. Of course, taking LSD at a concert is purely entertainment, so while I believe LSD can certainly be a therapeutically effective/”mind-expanding” drug, it has to be used intentionally for that, which ain’t gonna happen at a concert.
It just made me paranoid and “see things”. I never found any of it “mind-expanding”. It was fun for a couple years and I never cared to do it again. What the cited quote is saying to me is that popular culture is directed by college-aged idiots.
Well, you’re not wrong.
Wait, so we should be applauding the CIA for its contributions to Western Civilization? I guess it makes sense since they’re the ones who were also secretly funding post-modernist art during the Cold War to make the Soviets look uncultured. Which explains why Jackson Pollack’s art work is utter garbage.
As a libertarian, I’m glad that I never used government created hallucinogenics. Mushrooms> LSD
Peyote>Mushrooms>LSD
Peyote is too southwest. Real Americans prefer to get high on cow dung
Jenkum?
Mushrooms>LSD>Peyote (well. Mescaline. I’ve never done straight peyote.)
Mushrooms are a trip. Six hours of greatness, after 45 minutes of intense nausea. Protip: Make it into tea. My two LSD experiences were NUTS. The second trip, done on MLK Day 2006 was the thing of legend in Bloomington. Big influx of product. Tripped for 48 hours. Legit ‘seeing ents walking across the quad and controlling hallucinations shit. Mescaline was fun. I wish I could’ve upped the dosage.
My first drug experience was during a high school spring break and my parents went out of town for the week. I grated up a bunch of nutmeg (hey, I was 14) and ate two tablespoons. That was very, very unpleasant.
Same thing happened a couple of years later, alone for a week at 18 of age. Did mushrooms. Huge storm. Just got my own first drum kit after my brother took ours away to university a few years earlier. I drummed for hours trying to battle the storm cell for auditory superiority. Lost power for several days, and with well-water that became uncomfortably interesting after a while.
Good fucking times.
Shrooms – yeah, a lot cleaner buzz than LSD. The latter, at least with the paper I got via some Dead Head band follower, had a very harsh “sci-fi” buzz; lighting became very hard and darker shadowed. Not a pleasant experience for me.
Mushrooms, on the other hand, gave me seemingly great insight into the world. Of course the notes I took at the time seemed like gibberish when I read them sober.
Opium is bar none my favorite drug of all time. Of course if it was readily available I would be like this 24/7.
Derp this
Now that I can agree with. I’m not a drug-takin’ type in general, but when I went through a spate of bronchitis a long time ago and was prescribed a big bottle of codeine cough syrup? That was AWESOME!
Protip: Make it into tea.
Put them in a blender with OJ and make a smoothie. Zero nausea.
Or so I’ve heard.
I have never, and will never, understand the appeal of hallucinogens. There’s weird, disturbing shit rattling around in my brain when I’m sober. The last thing I want to do is bring it all to the surface.
My mental faculties are all I really have. Losing control of them would be horrifying.
It’s not that bad. You’d be surprised. In controlled settings, psychologists in the 1950’s and 1960’s were having breakthroughs in using hallucinogenics to convince alcoholics to stop drinking and heroin addicts to give it up. Then Timothy Leary ruined it by giving the drugs to undergraduates. Now you cannot experiment with hallucinogenics anymore.
It’s very clarifying to me. There’s a reason that they call it a trip.
Best way I can describe it: Normally I think in full sentences and paragraphs. On hallucinogens I think in pages. A page of fully grammatical and insightful thought every second. Your mind goes into itself and you can really flesh out and feel a lot of the things that you sometimes can’t articulate. These will be about your thoughts on a certain matter or about the way you process things or about how the world fundamentally works.
You get caught up and you find yourself scribbling down ideas that are the purest you’ve ever had. Music and sex is a bonus. I’d always get pissed with people who just “wanted to see shit.” That’s a byproduct. The real beauty is in how it unlocks your brain to places that you didn’t know existed before.
Set and setting. Safe place and good people (or if you’re experienced do it alone or with a loved one). I have many clinical psychological issues and I always found that a good trip really helped me work through them. And one thing that is true….unless you’re Ozzy….you NEVER want to trip again the next day. It’s anti-addictive. It’s a hard journey, like getting back from and adventurous vacation–you just want to chill out for several months.
I can’t endorse them enough. Truly a unique experience. Just be smart, like in all choices in life.
Honestly? I don’t want to unlock anything in my brain. I don’t think I’d like what I’d find. Hell, that’s why I even limit my drinking to tipsiness now and no more.
It’s not unlocking the way that you mean it. It’s releasing its full potential.
I have some sort of asperger’s and have suffered with depression and crippling social anxiety. Hallucinogens don’t inflate these, as long as you’re not stupid about it. If you don’t like crowds, don’t trip in the middle of the NY stock exchange.
There’s an intense clarity to it. It’s why MDMA and such drugs are REALLY good at helping people with PTSD or depression. You can really get into yourself in a very healthy way, get to the root of things, and feel incredibly positive for a long time.
It’s literally like having super-intelligence and super-empathy at the same time. Now, I get angry at myself because I can’t control these issues/weaknesses. When I trip I don’t just accept myself for having them, but I actively come up with positive ways to address and overcome them.
There’s also the purely fun side to it as well. I have always found it incredibly therapeutic. It’s a controlled dream state. You may confront your own demons, but in conquering them you truly lift yourself outside of them for a while.
To quote the Bard, “you take a vacation from your problems.
And better learn with how to cope with them.
That makes it sound even worse of an idea. I have my mind in order and understand my neuroses. Introducing a stray element would be unwelcome.
I wouldn’t recommend them for you.
The Setting requires an open honestly about it. It does indeed involve a bit of losing control.
I hate losing control, and I know that you do as well.
But there really is an emotional and psychological release about surrendering yourself. That sounds religious, and it IS. But it’s about surrendering yourself to your own brain, your own god. Which in this instance is your own mind. It frees yourself to really look at yourself outside of yourself. All of that neurosis disappears, for a while.
All that wander are not lost. I would argue that becoming lost helps you find your true self. It’s a radical expansion of how your mind functions and it really did help me through some tough times–being fully able in almost out-of-body sense to figure myself out. In ways that weren’t possible before.
Some people shouldn’t do it and I strongly think that you are not one of them. But it greatly helped me crystalize and visualize certain things that to this day I found to be transformative experiences that have greatly shaped my life.
I ain’tcha papa. But if I were to pick a religion, a monthly sacrament of hallucinogens would certainly be a healthy part of it.
It is a very difficult thing to explain or to understand, but those that have done it know exactly what I mean.
It may have been Terrance McKenna (the Timothy Leary of mushrooms and ayahuasca) who referred to psychedelics as “entheogens” for just the reasons you cite, Evan.
My experiences were not unlike Evans, but my circle used psychedelics with Leary’s advice in mind. We’d go to the James River and hang out on the rocks and groove on the sun and clouds and the flow of water, or we’d go camping, that kind of thing. Very different experience than a loud, chaotic concert, which I think is not the best setting by a mile.
Of course, we also went to Grateful Dead concerts and one epic Tangerine Dream concert on psychedelics. Which was fun, but not my favorite psychedelic experiences.
I’ve been curious about psychedelics since I read the Steve Jobs biography. Jobs claimed to drop acid once (yeah sure), but that experience changed him. It showed him there was “something more out there”, and that affected him positively for the rest of his life.
I also have a friend/acquaintance who does mushrooms once a month to combat depression. He says it works very well.
I once took an honors course in college about hallucinogenics and psychology. Weird class. Our first day the instructor passed around copies of High Times for us to look through (technically, marijuana is classified as a mild hallucinogenic which explains why it has no physically addictive properties).
I also have a friend/acquaintance who does mushrooms once a month to combat depression. He says it works very well.
Clinicians are getting similar results with ketamine in as little as one treatment. Research is slow going for obvious reasons. MDMA has had similar efficacy for PTSD and other types of anxiety disorders.
“The Return of Rent Control
By Kevin D. Williamson
Mayor de Blasio proposes to expropriate the property of New York City’s commercial landlords. Of course, he wouldn’t put it quite like that, just as Senator Warren wouldn’t use the same blunt honest language to describe her daft proposal to put corporate boards under political discipline. (To be fair, Senator Warren is only 1/1024th a Leninist.) But that’s what his proposal amounts to: Commercial landlords would no longer have the power to set their own rents, to evict undesirable tenants, to determine deposit amounts, etc. The property would remain formally titled to them, but they would in effect lose control of it.
This is an example of what Robert Higgs calls “regime uncertainty,” which does not describe the rise and fall of governments but rather the security of property rights. Mayor de Blasio and other Democrats would argue that they are not depriving landlords of their property rights, only subjecting them to regulation in the public interest. But the changes proposed represent a fundamental shift in the nature of those property rights, away from property owners and toward political actors — the prior regime of property rights ceases to exist. A landlord who cannot set his own rent may still own his property on paper, as does a corporation that cannot determine for itself the composition of its board, but ownership no longer means what it did.
Regime uncertainty means that investors are unable to make long-term plans for their property, because the nature of rights to that property is not securely established. Often, this has the perverse effect of raising prices that regulation had been meant to lower or to stabilize: If an investment involves a higher degree of risk, then investors will demand higher returns to put their money behind it.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/rent-control-bill-de-blasio-new-york-city-venezuela-disaster/
1/1024 is going to live forever as a meme.
If DeBlasio wants to collapse the NYC commercial real estate market, this is how he could do it.
It’s an attack on Trump!!!
So owner pays property tax but has no say over the use of the property.
I wonder how that will work out.
Rent Controls cause Slum Lords. That’s a fact
I would put it closer to 1/2.
Bolsheviks was never a native american tribe.
regulation in the public interest
My property is for my interest, not the public’s.
https://mises.org/wire/yes-pc-real-yes-it-illiberal
Mises Institute responds to Reason’s article about how cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory.
FTA:
“First, Doherty completely ignores the general meaning of the term, which is fairly well-understood. In the mid-20th century (actual) Marxists realized their focus on creating economic class consciousness by pitting proletariat against bourgeoisie had failed to resonate with working class people. Thus they shifted (albeit not all at once and not always deftly) to a narrative of oppressor and oppressed, which allowed women, minorities, gays and other groups to create class consciousness around cultural issues rather than economic standing. Cultural Marxism describes the results of this shift.”
And the feud continues….
“Fuckbrain molests language, history and logic in a desperate attempt to make thoughtcrime compatible with liberty while others point and laugh” is hardly a feud.
I like Doherty. Mainly because of his book “Radicals for Capitalism”. But, yeah, he keeps trying to bend over backwards to try and fit the intersectionality of the Left into some kind of consistent message about individualism and free markets. It’s a ludicrous attempt, but I think it’s required if you write for Reason.
It was painful to read that article, because I like Doherty too. You can almost see the steam that must have been coming our of his ears as he tries to justify the bullshit he’s writing. He just needs to realize that Reason isn’t the same organization he joined years ago and stop trying to tow the lion. Either that or he’s been assimilated and needs to be pulled out of there after the rest of the Reason staff are given the command to go to sleep.
I agree with Pat here. The roots of the ideologies of the social justice cadres in the Frankfurt school are pretty well documented. I read Doherty’s article. And it amounts to “None of the cool kids think that!”. It’s about as intellectually substantive as the claim that the Nazis weren’t socialist because they were at odds with the communists. That Reason is trafficking in these sorts of arguments is just sad.
Jesus, that Doherty column was pathetic. Choosing to simply ignore that the driving motivation behind the SJW crew is not “plentitude”, but instead forcing others to embrace the same ideology they espouse, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
Here’s a challenge for Brian Doherty: publish a blog post stating simply that human beings with penises are not women. Don’t make any value judgments, don’t say anything about bathrooms or pronouns or anything, just state a simple biological fact…..and see what happens.
“simply that human beings with penises are not women”
Reason would never publish such hate speech.
Reason would never publish such hate speech.
Funny. We both reference the site as “Reason”, rather than “TOS”. And I’ve seen other people do it recently. I think the old tribal loyalty is wearing off.
/Long live Glibertariandom!
It’s been a while since someone has named TSTSNBN
BTW, Francisco d’Anconia is VERY disappointed in us. From the comments to the Doherty article….
I knew there was a reason I never liked him!!
In any case, though, I do get his point to a certain extent, though it’s overstated. It’s true that there is a general agreement on many things, and it’s probably fair to say that there’s much more mutual reinforcement here than true debate. However, within a broadly accepted range of accepted opinions, there are disagreements and there are debates.
“I was one of the original Glib founders”
Fake News?
Also because the Reasonoids are totally not a clubhouse because they let any shit with an email come in and “Debate” by trashing everyone and presenting shit for “arguments”. You can keep your crap, i for one enjoy the civility that is enforced by our common and voluntary social mores.
I don’t know if he was actually one of the founders, but he was here at the beginning and I think he and OMWC are friends in real life.
I just find it more civil.
None of our opinions have changed. We know where people stand on pineapples and land tax.
Pineapples go on pizzas, and land tax is a crime?
It’s not as if there wasn’t an echo chamber that wasn’t reinforced at Reason for a while with Sparky and other attacking anyone who questioned the premise of writers at Reason. Nonetheless, I see his point.
In my opinion, the best of the debaters left that place earlier than most in the Exodus here.
What grand, nuanced debates are they having over there now? Hihn and John?
Square=Circle is good (I haven’t been around in a while, so I don’t know if he’s on Glibs). And Zeb pops in every once in a while. And Eddy still makes a remark here or there. Citizen X and Sparky disappeared.
John has gathered a following at Reason and it’s quite disturbing.
Gilmore seems to post more there than here now, which is too bad. There are still some decent posts here and there, but in general the comment sections are pretty terrible. Seems like two-thirds of the posting is the lefty trolls screaming at the righty trolls, and vice versa.
>>John has gathered a following
Chubby Chasers United?
John has gathered a following at Reason and it’s quite disturbing.
Bound to happen. Following the Exodus, from what I saw of my occasional perusings, there was a vacuum left with regard to people who didn’t toe the Cosmotarian party line. And, while John can certainly be an asshole, he does sometimes make some interesting points.
“>>John has gathered a following
Chubby Chasers United?”
He wishes. It’s a very disturbing development. I’ve been denounced by him and his “gang” as a Leftist on multiple occasions.
Perhaps the worst troll there now is one that keeps denouncing Reason writers as “anarchists”. As if libertarians should be offended with such an accusation. If anything, it’s unfair to praise them by calling them “anarchists”.
Also, I think Cathy Reisenwitz comments there again. And she’s as dumb as ever
The worst troll there is Rev Arthur Kirkland by a mile. He makes shreek seem delightful in contrast.
Gilmore seems to post more there than here now, which is too bad.
That’s partly my fault I think, so sorry about that.
“Rev Arthur Kirkland”
He’s so terrible, I’m pretty sure he’s someone from the Niskanen Institute.
The left-libertarians there have basically just morphed into progressives now. Chemjeff attacked Stossel for some video and all hell broke loose. No one attacks the stache
He’s not fully wrong. I could probably recite both sides of all the ‘debates’ we have from memory. I could do the same at Reason. The only difference is the amount of abuse generated. We have no fewer nor more ‘debates’, just a different set of ritualized posturing on a different set of dividing lines.
I’ll take the one with less bile-spewing.
” I could probably recite both sides of all the ‘debates’ we have from memory”
I think remembering “Fuck You Cut Spending” is hardly a feat.
We have no fewer nor more ‘debates’, just a different set of ritualized posturing on a different set of dividing lines.
One difference I’d say is that while we fall on a spectrum of libertarian-ish-ness around here, there’s nobody who is a completely dyed-in-the-wool left wing fanatic pretending to be something they aren’t, and hence very little concern trolling or arguing in bad faith, so there’s no real need for constantly restating arguments and playing pigeon chess.
^This more than anything.
And TSTSNBN seems to have been absorbed with TDS.
Even when they recognize that maybe Trump backed into something that turned out to be slightly pro-libertarian, they go thru back-flips and gyrations explaining why it’s still bad.
It’s a clubhouse rather than a place for debate.
I remember and have seen what passes for debate over there. I think I’ll live.
How dare you have a little fun while talking about sooper serious topics?
I thought the whole point of commenting was to generate mood whiplash by jumping between silly and serious.
The problem over there is half the commenters are trolls.
There is discussion of finer points in both places but over there it’s buried under a massive shitpile of bad-faith “arguments”.
it’s buried under a massive shitpile of bad-faith “arguments”.
Yeah. I think the “clubhouse” environment makes for fewer bad faith arguments which makes for more intellectual trust which makes for fewer bad faith arguments which…
Yeah I can live without PB, all the Tulpa socks, John’s little name-callin’ rants, Tony, and – drawing a blank here – the guy in law school who mostly argued in bad faith.
Bo ?
You forgot the Esquire.
What a douche he is/was.
I’ve always been certain that chemjeff is Bo. Their posting styles are exactly the same.
I’m convinced that was a Tulpa sockpuppet. Like legitimately. Not like our meme.
Bo was definitely a Tulpa sock.
So chemjeff is Tulpa?
I thought chemjeff was the rebirth of cytotoxic to be honest with you, but I have no idea. They were both cunts and have a very similar writing style.
I haven’t been in the Reason comments for a couple of years now. Christ does time fly.
That’s the name: Bo Esquire. It got to the point where I wanted to strangle
himthat sock across the electrons of time and space.Bo Cara, Esq.
He was one of the few posters that actually got under my skin.
He’d actually have half of a decent discussion for a few posts, then start shifting around goal-posts and generally fucking up everything.
Is he calling that cesspool of trolls over there debate?
Sure as hell sounds that way.
“a clubhouse rather than a place for debate”
Because “debating” is getting into shit flinging fights with Tony and a 100 PB socks?
Nods…
I expect to learn something in a debate. Outside of John and a few others, there’s not really anyone over there that I can learn from.
I do miss John a bit, although he seemed to have a hard time not going dark side when his positions were challenged.
John is a decent thinker, but he will change his mind – and deny it – just to be contrary.
John has issues, but he’s usually got an interesting take on things that at least force me to consider my position. It’s unfortunate he gets so tied up in winning the argument that he has to demonize anyone who disagrees in the slightest.
John takes every argument to 11. Every fucking time. And I say that as someone who agreed with him a fair bit of the time. He can be insightful and convincing, but he simply cannot handle disagreement at all, and at that point he turns into a gigantic raging asshole.
He’s dead on with autonomous cars, though!
Oh, shut up you fucking half-wit.
TO be fair we could use some token leftists around here as long as they be civil. Also some stronger anti-trump voices on occasion. But this only applies to the links. That being said, I also come here for the camaraderie and get plenty of debates. Thing is after a point debates do get similar, but this is the case on any site. They an be more or less civil… but the same nonetheless
“TO be fair we could use some token leftists around here as long as they be civil.”
Yes. 1,000x this
“I also come here for the camaraderie and get plenty of debates.”
I come here to be viewed with suspicion as some nefarious Papist plant
I did wonder if you were grown hydroponically.
Too bad Eddie is clinically paranoid.
Eddie is more thoughtful than most of us, imho
That’s why I said “too bad”
eddie is more thoughtful dependin on the topic
I come here to be viewed with suspicion as some nefarious Papist plant
We talked about this J-Say! The first rule of Papist Plant Club is to not talk about it.
I’m going to have to dock your secret payment this month.
Almost all the links provided here come from mainstream outlets pushing a certain corporate leftistish agenda. We know the arguments being put forth. Reason was a libertarian site with content produced by libertarians. Now it’s mainstream crap with a small mix a libertarianism. That doesn’t make for debate, it’s just another version of YouTube comments.
yes but all comments on the lefty links are critical
I don’t see the problem. Most criticisms are well deserved. Hate to tell you, but I cheat and sometimes visit other sites that aren’t libertarian. It’s not like we are limited to glibs. A well balanced, polite and representative collection of all political bents doesn’t exist on any site without moderation and restrictions.
That’s disappointing. I have positive memories of FdA as someone with whom I might not always agree but who typically argued in good faith and added something to the discussion. That said, the Reason comment section is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. It’s trolls all the way down. People get personal very quickly, and the quality of discussion is usually infantile. If the opposite of that, i.e. generally respectful, civilized debate among people contributing interesting and valuable information, opinions, and viewpoints, is a clubhouse, then give me a clubhouse every time. If I want to shitpost there’s always Facebook.
I have positive memories of FdA as someone with whom I might not always agree but who typically argued in good faith and added something to the discussion.
Both he and Old Mexican lost the fucking plot as soon as Trump was elected. It was like a switch flipped on them.
Illegal humans! Man, I got tired of that schtick.
My reasonable plugin was getting a huge workout; I had to keep adding new users to the blacklist every day.
Old Mexican was very libertarian except some sacred cows of his
“I know. I was one of the original Glib founders. It was a mistake, IMHO. It’s a clubhouse rather than a place for debate. But I can’t undo it.”
So he would prefer if the contributors here posted more Marxist claptrap and called it libertarian? Or would he prefer more trolls like buttplug, white indian, etc.? At some point making the same arguments over and over to the same people isn’t debate, it’s typographic masturbation. For all the “debate” John, Gilmore, et al do at TOS, they’d be better off spending their time writing articles and submitting them here.
I know I didn’t leave TOS because of the commenters, I left because of the shitty anti-liberty articles.
I left because of the latter, but over time I’m glad I left because of the former.
Ditto. Going back now and again and looking at the comments I get this horrible, cringing feeling. Was it that bad when I was a regular commenter there? Jesus, was I one of these people!?
I always like Frank but…the comments at TOS are a real shitshow. Having paid socks come in and shit the place up with ‘I’m not touching you!’ style trolling isnt ‘debate’.
It’s a clubhouse rather than a place for debate.
We debate constantly, just not always about politics and philosophy.
Some here are quite good at debate, really. You might call them master debaters.
I can understand if the experience some people want is to have the same vitriolic arguments with the same disingenuous lefty trolls over and over and over again. I’m not sure I would glorify that as “debate” but I suppose it’s a pastime that suits some. I personally don’t miss it and much prefer the more congenial interactions here.
looking at the title of the reason piece Don’t Blame Karl Marx for ‘Cultural Marxism’ and it si already stupid. No one is blaming clasical marxism on anything. that is why it is cultural
SRSLY?
Facebook did not wish to draw scrutiny to its viewership figures because it knows that the majority of video ads on its platform are viewed for very short periods of time—users scroll right past. If advertisers were more widely aware of this fact, and in particular, if they knew that their advertisements were among those that were not drawing viewers’ attention, they would be less likely to continue buying video advertising from Facebook.
Go ahead, pretend to be surprised by this. I did.
Facebook had to walk back their numbers they were reporting to advertisers a while back, because they were counting views (for billing) different than what they showed on the dashboard. Basically a view was any time a video started. (since the video’s are on autoplay this means any ad that someone scrolls past or promoted video will be billed) but they would only display data for videos that people saw 3 or more seconds of. I figured someone would sue them for this fraud.
I can’t believe advertisers would think that people who use the Internet will sit and watch ads for more than 3 seconds. It’s like they’ve never met someone who uses a smart phone.
It’s more about the fact that Facebook misrepresented what they were charging people for (any view) vs what they thought they were being charged for (3 sec views).
Or a VCR, or a DVR, or an ad-blocker, ….
I’ve long thought advertisers were throwing good money out the window – and making everything more expensive for everybody as a result – but it’s getting ridiculous. Short of prying your eyelids open with tweezers, there’s now almost no reason to ever see one.
I don’t know how common it is, but most of the time, when I see an advert for a product, even a product I use or would otherwise want, I specifically don’t buy it, or put off buying it until I forget the adverts existed and I wander back to it organically.
Couple days back I installed a pi-hole on my network.
Ads have virtually been eliminated.
I buy ads for our auctions on FB. They are just photos of a few items with a link to the auction site though. Never tried a video. I think it’s a pretty good platform to narrow down a target audience and have been pretty happy with the results and it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than Google.
Britain fell for a neoliberal con trick – even the IMF says so
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/17/economic-lies-neoliberalism-taxpayers
I don’t wish to write about the everyday failings of neoliberalism – that piece would be filed before you could say “east coast mainline”. Instead, I want to address the most stubborn belief of all: that running a small state is the soundest financial arrangement for governments and voters alike. Because 40 years on from the Thatcher revolution, more and more evidence is coming in to the contrary. – I have yet to see any
Let’s start with the IMF itself. Last week it published a report that barely got a mention from the BBC or in Westminster, yet helps reframe the entire debate over austerity. The fund totted up both the public debt and the publicly owned assets of 31 countries, from the US to Australia, Finland to France, and found that the UK had among the weakest public finances of the lot. – I am sure that math is rock solid
With less than £3 trillion of assets against £5tn in pensions and other liabilities, the UK is more than £2tn in the red. – neoliberalism is to blame
The other big reason for the UK’s financial precarity is its privatisation programme, described by the IMF as no less than a “fiscal illusion”. British governments have flogged nearly everything in the cupboard, from airports to the Royal Mail – often at giveaway prices – to friends in the City. Such privatisations, judge the fund, “increase revenues and lower deficits but also reduce the government’s asset holdings”.
See, Massive Government is obviously the best solution.
Because if the government isn’t massive, they will not hold as many assets: therefore this is bad.
(I think i’m being pretty fair to their argument here)
Always! They can just print more money…
Such privatisations, judge the fund, “increase revenues and lower deficits but also reduce the government’s asset holdings”.
Just imagine the sensational financial position of a state that owned all the means of production!
my question is what good is the value of the assets when pensions come due? I mean short of selling them then, what good can they do? If government needs to pay pensions what good is that the public railway is “valuated” at 1 trillion? that valuation does nothing
“Your pension will be paid in train ride vouchers.”
Your pension will be paid in
trainhelicopter ride vouchers.Those mass graves aren’t going to fill themselves.
Sending them by train is cheaper.
/Socialists
Needz moar Teen Vogue.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/student-newspaper-runs-column-praising-pegging-anal-sex/
“Don’t stick anything bigger than your elbow in your ear.” -1980
“Go ahead!” -2018
“Stick it anywhere.”
If I wanted someone to plow my ass, why wouldn’t I just get someone with the natural equipment?
Because you aren’t attracted to men?
and thus don’t want anyone plowing my ass….see how this is circular?
“BACK TO LIFE UK sex doll rental firm offers widows replicas of their dead partners to help comfort them
A MUM is offering one of the UK’s first sex doll rental services – and offers to make bespoke dolls for those seeking comfort after losing a partner by matching their likeness.
Jade Stanley, 35, from Bromsgrove, Worcs, says business is booming and now offers the first ever rental service for those looking for comfort after losing a loved one.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7495264/sex-dolls-dead-partners-widows/
Will they refuse to create a matching likeness when 100 of us claim our dead partner was Rita Hayworth?
Look, she got around.
Needz MOAR H. Fenton Mudd
Ewww…
Man, there’s not enough hand sanitizer in the world to get me to rent a sex doll.
Wait… Why do you need hand sanitizer for a sex doll? Are you saying you would be whacking your willy hard and constantly, requiring all that hand washing?
I would think putting an alcohol based sanitized on a sex doll would be . . . stimulating, but not in the good way.
He’s gonna make the sex doll give him a handy?
I assumed he was just chugging the hand sanitizer to get his brain to the point where it’s willing to have sloppy 100th’s with a hunk of silicone.
“Jimmy Carter restored Jefferson Davis’s citizenship”
WE NEED TO HARASS JIMMY WHEREVER HE IS!!! HE MUST BE HOUNDED!!!
Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy is no joke.
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/nation-world/national/article220151245.html
Cow #1: “Im not worried about catching mad cow disease”
Cow #2: “Whys that?”
Cow #1: “Because Im a helicopter”
Sounds like a well reasoned discussion…
Huh, apparently my great-grandmother loved squirrel brains.
There’s a UNOCAL truck stop in W. Kentucky that had them on the breakfast menu
Huh. Just recently I had a hankering for pork brains/scrambled eggs.
That just disappeared. I think I will lay off eating brains of any kind.
I was one of the original Glib founders. It was a mistake, IMHO. It’s a clubhouse rather than a place for debate.
Whatever.
Yeah, pretty much my take.
I enjoy my time here. I learn things, some of them social/cultural/political, some not. I am not irritated or angered by what I read here, mostly. We have discussions more than debates, and I find them superior in every way.
“(WCMH) – According to a recent survey, seven percent of Americans believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows.
The survey was conducted by the Innovation Center of US Dairy in April. 1,000 adults 18 and over were asked questions about the role milk plays in their daily lives, Food & Wine reported.
The study found 48% of respondents weren’t sure where chocolate milk came from. Seven percent thought chocolate milk only comes from brown cows.
That adds up to about 16.4 million people, more than the population of Ohio.
The Washington Post linked the study to past studies that consistently show many Americans have no idea where their food comes from. For example, a study in the 1990s found that nearly 20% of people did not know hamburgers are made from beef.”
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/u-s-world/study-finds-surprising-number-of-americans-think-chocolate-milk-comes-from-brown-cows/1064794299
How many were trolling the pollster?
+1 pizza rat
*ding ding ding*
As a citizen of Ohio, I can confirm that chocolate milk does indeed come from brown cows.
I mean it can but it doesn’t have to.
Unpossible. It can only come from white cows with black spots. Unless it’s lowfat. Lowfat chocolate milk comes from Halfsteins.
What utter nonsense.
how now?
They should always post the exact questions when they run these type of “people are dumb” stories. I’m always quite curious.
Fake news!
United States Steel Corp (X.N) workers are set to get the biggest wage jump in at least six years under a new deal negotiated with the company, providing early signs that gains from U.S. President Donald Trump’s clampdown on foreign imports are finally trickling down.
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Trump’s restrictive trade policy, coupled with a strong economy, has sent domestic steel prices soaring, helping U.S. Steel post a near 60 percent increase in pretax profits in the June quarter.
The deal, which needs to be ratified by 16,000 workers across the country, comes days after U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross called steelmakers to share the profits from high steel prices with their workers.
It comes at a time when U.S. wages are growing at the fastest pace in more than nine years.
That can’t be right. Nobody has gotten a raise since 1971.
What’s a raise?
“trickling down”
….
I don’t know where to start.
It’s disturbing how much traction that term has gained considering it was never attributed to any supply-side economists and was coined specifically to denigrate them.
How about with “more expensive everything made from steel for everybody”. Yay?
Doing another shootin session next week! I’ve only shot the H&K VP9 to this point. I like it, but it doesn’t have the kind of safety I want, so I’m-a try a new brand/model, same caliber. I think I’ll be ready to shoot on my own after that. I’m becoming the redneck I always wanted to be!
Yay!
Congrats.
CZ 75 all the way
https://kdvr.com/2018/10/16/aurora-man-sentenced-to-6-months-in-jail-for-having-sex-with-dog-dog-to-be-euthanized/
“An Aurora man who allegedly had sex with a dog in the backyard of their trailer home was sentenced to six months in jail on Tuesday and *the dog will be euthanized.*”
Emphasis mine.
WTF?
According TFA, the dog has become aggressive and can’t be adopted safely. Now, I’m what you’d call a live and let live Christian, but I think dude needs more than a six-month stay.
The story is quite horrible. He had the dog hopped up on chemicals and hormone triggers to make it horny and then recorded the things he did to it. What a fucking twisted ass weirdo.
Higher intelligence is a weird thing.
eyyyyyyyyyew
I don’t know how anyone can hurt a dog.
Well, there was this uncollared pug that was incessantly yapping at me and circling too close that I was thinking about kicking.
But I got the door unlocked and went inside my house instead.
#Ibelievethebitch
*sensible chuckle*
Once an animal gets a taste for human
fleshcock, you have to kill it.I never knew you were a Feminist.
WHAT? You didn’t know that I was the biggest swinging dick in the whole feminist movement?
Male feminists are the worst.
*loads shotgun with chromed steel buck and silver salts.*
You beat me to it Jimbo.
In the back yard of a trailer home. Of course it was.
Sorry but the article says no such thing
That means the traditional family is doing just fine, they just aren’t bothering to go get official government recognition of their familial status
Given the disincentives from the government to getting said recognition at a number of income levels, that’s hardly surprising.
False. Just 100% false. There is robust literature on this issue studying the phenomena from many different points of view and methodologies.
A family with two cohabitation biological parents of one or more kids are significantly different in many important aspects that influence both long-term family stability (ie the likelihood that the two parents will continue to be cohabitation when a child reaches their 18’th birthday is much lower for non-married cohabitation) and on longterm outcomes for the children (lifetime income, years of education, likelihood to have a felony conviction, reported levels of happiness and psychiatric treatment have all be found to be lower in children of married couples than non-married cohabitating biological parents). These studies all bucket together families where the parents are married at child birth or not-married at child birth. They don’t do anything special with families that have cohabitating parents at birth who later get married (a major flaw in the research, as far as i know)
Generally, all signs in the literature point to married 2 parents > 2 cohabitating biological parents in the home > married biological parents; one parent dies early in child’s life > 2 separate parents both involved in the child’s life > 1 parent involved in the child’s life. There’s some ambiguity in the middle of the list (parental death is hard to study, and probably very different depending on the age of the child at parent death and the SES of the surviving parent)
1) I did not realize that there would be math involved
2) Where in your chart do 2 homosexual parents (married and cohabiting)
3) Did you just assume my kid only had 2 biological parents shitlord?!?!!!
1) There is always math.
2) No one knows yet. There are studies going on, but there were so few out-two-parent households that they were basically impossible to study. And given the rapidly changing norms and (particularly) laws about same-sex marriage, a result that tells you what its like to have cohabitating same-sex parents when the child is born in say 1980 is likely not comparable to cohabitating same-sex parents when the child is born in 2000 or 2018.
3) I did, but I did not explicitly state that I think you are one of the two biological parents.
3a. How much does your kid resemble the mailman?
Yeah, I thought the point of marriage was to “tie” a couple together.
The average family has 2.4 kids…
Hey are you an average family? How do you handle the kid who is only 40% there?
In otherwords statistical aggregates mean relatively little when you try to map them onto individuals.
Next up correlation causation confusion. Is having 2 unmarried parents worse for kids or are worse parents less likely to get married? While there are huge and obvious drawbacks to a single parent household (less economic security, inability to share burdens between parents, single point of failure for parenting strategies, etc.) and households with one or more non biological parents (increased likelihood that the non biological parent will actually try to be a good parent or care about the best interests of the kid) however there is no obvious inherent reason for a household with both biological parents involved and active parents to produce any different results just based on whether they are married or not
Next, who the hell cares if the parents continue to cohabitate once the kid reaches 16 forget 18, the reality is they are for all intents and purposes done being raised by that point. What really matters is do the parents cohabitate and remain active in parenting for the first 15 years?
Point of all of this being it is very easy to conduct a study that shows a correlation between 2 features, that does not in any way mean that those features are actually related or caused by one an other. I can think of a hundred ways that there could be a correlation between parents who cohabitate without marrying that do not mean that the actual practice itself has any negative impact on the kids. Some examples…
1) People who are more rebellious are more likely to cohabitate and raise children and also more likely to be poor parents because of that inability to establish an orderly life
2) People who are more religious are more likely to get married before having children and having religious parents tends to give the kids a more thorough grounding in personal responsibility and morality
That is just 2, I could probably come up with 20 more without even trying. Now none of that means that those or any other examples I might think up are actually factors but the point is any of them could be and all would give the appearance that unwed cohabitating parents were a problem in and of themselves when they aren’t. On the flip side the only directly causal link that is an essential feature of such families which would have any impact on the childs outcomes is the risk that their parents would split up before they reached adolescence this however is no different than a married couple getting divorced and so it is only relevant in as much as unmarried cohabitating parents are more likely to split up than married parents to get divorced or separated while the child is still growing.
Every single one of your points are very good, and have been responded to by careful study design (or an understanding of basic statistics). For example, the Minnesota Twin and Adoption studies have been really useful in separating out correlation and causation issues. A literature search for metanalysis of those studies is a really good place to start.
I’m of two minds on the subject. On the one hand, I know a couple of unmarried families and they’re just fine. Like you say, they don’t need the government to recognize their relationship for it to be valid, and there’s a mother and father who just happen to not be married. And marriage itself is no guarantee that the parents will stay together and raise their kids well, as several of my friends can now attest, being divorced with kids.
On the other hand, there’s a stability that being officially married seems to…if not provide, at least strongly correlate with…that has been beneficial in my personal experience. Put another way, “normal” married couples seem to have produced “normal” families with kids that don’t grow up too fucked up, while growing up I never knew anyone with unmarried cohabitating parents, and the single parent households all seemed pretty wrecked–other than one guy who was raised by his step-father when his mother left the picture and turned out ok.
Again, this is all based on my personal experience, which is admittedly limited, and I’ve witnessed many a traditional married family produce absolute disasters.
I grew up with a single mom. I think I turned out OK but I wouldn’t recommend it.
Anyway, the stats seems to support the idea that marriage is beneficial to kids – anecdotes aside.
I grew up to a married couple and while I turned out fine my father was an abusive alcoholic drug addict who was at time bad enough that our fire and brimstone evangelical baptist pastor actually recommended that my mother divorce.
If there were any actual validity to social science I would be a violently abusive alcoholic and drug user with a long string of broken relationships behind me (I’ve only ever dated 2 women, married both, the first lasted almost a decade and the second is going on year 18).
What actually matters, literally the only thing that matters in raising kids is having 2 (or even more but how ever many there are they need to remain as active parents for at least the first dozen or so years) , stable (as in mentally stable), committed, loving (not necessarily towards each other, towards the kid, they just have to get along with each other) people to act as parents. It does not matter if they are married, it does not matter their biological sexes (although they do need different people to assume male and female roles in the parenting) , it does not matter if they are biologically related to the kid, it does not even matter if they actually live together. Just as long as they are both present in the kids life.
The rest of it when you are measuring outcomes is just a proxy, the reason male-female biological parents who get married before having kids have the best outcomes is because that is the arrangement that is most likely to meet the criteria I set up above. Other family arraingments absolutely can meet those criteria and when they do so they will be just as successful in producing good child rearing outcomes however their statistical outcomes are worse because they are on average less likely to meet the child rearing needs. The problem is not the family arrangement, the problem is the individuals in the families are less likely to be good parents in alternative arrangements.
You comment here. How can you believe that.