A good book, a beer, and a quiet afternoon.

Ever get a call from number you don’t recognize?  Ever make the mistake of answering it? I know I have.

Recently, the people that own and operate the site were given the rare opportunity to preview an advance copy of a book!  Being that that the subject was something that is going to be a highly relevant topic upon its release date, I took the bait.  My issue however is that I was unsure how to approach such an article. I will say upfront this is well researched, all the arguments made in the book flow logically, and are diligently cited by respected academic sources.  Do I do this right and feature a worthy beer, or do I do this right and generate as much interest as possible? In the spirit of the book’s subject, I decided to review the comment total as a proxy for the interest in my past articles and determined Glibs are much more interested when I drink something terrible.

This is my review of Honey Brown

The book is titled Data in Decline by Steve A. Wood

Given the recent headlines going from predicting blue waves, crimson rushes, brutal mobs, silent majorities, et cetera, all coupled with standard internet tough guy talk between all sides, it seems all too timely in its release.  Everyone in the media are driving narratives based on polls, that suggest national or local political sentiment. The problem of course is in several recent elections the polls were wrong, most notably the 2016 Presidential Election.  We can speculate how these broken polls affected current political discourse, given that both sides insist they are in the majority thus agendas should fit accordingly and the other side can just shut up. The truth is we really don’t know because there is no reliable way of determining that outside of election day, and quite frankly even then it shouldn’t matter because our system of government is designed to respect the opinions of the minority.

Still, there must be a better way of performing these polls, but not until first identifying what is going wrong with present methodology.  Because of the complexity of the subject at hand this is not a book that should be reviewed in a single article. Today the excerpts I am going to focus on are internal biases that arguably drive poor polling results.  

A cliche that comes up in discussions in right of center circles about polls is that nobody in the comment section claims to ever be contacted by a poll.  Personally, I have—on multiple occasions—during the campaign season of nearly every election since I was old enough to vote. The only respite was 2008, but I was in Middle East at the time.  I will let everyone here speculate as to why they keep calling me but sampling biases are always a cited reason. An interesting thing Wood points out, is it may not be the biases of the pollers rather than the pollee being revealed.

Canvassing also creates both a self-selection bias for the simple fact that people don’t often like stopping to talk to people on the street. A canvasser’s cause is generally readily apparent, so individuals with a particular interest in a given subject are thus far more likely to stop and talk to the canvasser. In contrast, others may project their negative biases onto the canvasser and deliberately ignore them as a result. While this can help researchers reach certain quotas, it skews the perceived level of support because little information is gathered from those with less substantial interest in the subject matter.

In the last few weeks I was contacted four separate times by somebody working for a campaign, all of whom were looking for information from me along with gauging my interest in voting.  For those interested in knowing: yes, all were from Democrat campaigns. Two attempts were from actual volunteers that came to my door.  While I do not believe I am an intentionally sour person to speak with, it is something I have been accused of in the past.  I made no attempt at hiding my distaste for their being at my door from while maintaining as polite a tone as possible.  At least that is my side of the story—it is not like I pulled a gun, or that they can prove in court I wasn’t under duress at the time.

One simply wanted me to register to vote in the Democrat primary.  The conversation took about 3 minutes in spite of my having to explain that not being a Republican does not make me a Democrat.  The other actually did ask me what issue I cared about the most, and instead of the standard Glib retort (gay, pot-smoking Mexicans) I asked if he had a list on the tablet he was carrying; I thought it would help reveal who he worked for.  The canned response, “not trusting republicans in power,” with no analogue for the other side suggested who was paying this volunteer.  In the end my only response was, “the economy.”  He then left me alone.

I continued further into the book where Wood discusses potential reasons why the polling data itself may be subject to sampling bias.  He provides thoughtful suggestions why this is the case, and presents examples with citations to corroborate his claims. Such as:

If strongly partisan Democrats are far more likely to respond to an opinion poll than strongly partisan Republicans—which is arguably the case since these same polls indicate 52% of strong Democrats trust polls compared to 27% of strong Republicans14—the results of those polls are likely to contain bias. The effect is comparable to Literary Digest’s oversampling of Republicans in 1936 by drawing respondents from populations made up of voters who tended to be more Republican than the overall electorate.

That this disparate impact comes at the same time as the rise in narrowcast media, which allows individuals to curate and filter which information makes its way into their consciousness, makes obtaining participatory buy-in from study population members much more difficult than it has been in the past. People are becoming far more accustomed to actively filtering what information they take in. Everything from ad blockers to phone call filters have allowed confirmation bias, “the seeking or interpreting of evidence in ways that are partial to existing beliefs,”15 to flourish in our daily lives.

True.  We all live in a bubble of our own creation.  Don’t think you live in a bubble?  Guess what this website is.  If past discussions here and other dark corners of the internet are indicative of the overall sentiment to polling is they are as trustworthy or more appropriately, untrustworthy as the media outlet reporting it.   Its to the point others will simply cite betting odds in Europe as more trustworthy or even use crude methods to neutralize the bias in the data (i.e. just add 5 points to the Republican’s result).

Another example cited as a reason the data is subject to bias:

Facebook defines advertising fatigue as “[w]hen everyone in your target audience has already seen your ad many times, it becomes more expensive to achieve desirable results.”35 More broadly, over-tasking human awareness with frequent interruptions and distractions substantially reduces peoples’ overall functionality;36 populations which have been inundated for extended periods are already operating at a base capacity of 60% at best.37 As audiences become saturated with ads, it becomes increasingly expensive and difficult to reach them, capture their focus, and engage them by any means.

Indeed, I ignore things on my screen as I tire of reading it.  It certainly helps that many web pages all put the ads in the same place which is allows for more efficiency in ignoring.  These ads sometimes lead to a survey.  This is not the only bias that suggests the only people responding to a poll are people that actually want to respond.

Although the Bradley Effect has largely been written off by social scientists, the term has evolved to essentially cover all cases in which respondents lie or otherwise deliberately provide false data to pollsters. The concept continues to live on because the general principle of survey respondents misinforming interviewers has seemingly manifested in other forms.

The Shy Tory Factor is one of those manifestations, one which focuses on political parties and philosophies in general rather than specific individuals. This phenomenon was first discovered in Great Britain, where it was found that Conservative voters may refuse to answer pollsters honestly, indicating that they supported the Tory party less than they did. This effect has also been found to understate support for the Republican Party in the United States.66

[…]

However, due to the already questionable nature of polls, it is possible that the Shy Tory Factor as it is observed is in truth a manifestation of compounded sampling bias and self-selection bias.67 This is difficult to reconcile with the fact that the effect seems to be more pronounced in surveys where the respondents have higher levels of personal contact with the research team, but is worth considering.68

Sounds like there is a some level of truth to the theory that in 2016 people were not willing to tell somebody outside their inner circle they supported Donald Trump. To be perfectly fair, I only mention this because it does confirm my own biases.

If there are so many problems within the polling data that seem so obvious once it is spelled out logically like this, why has there not been any drive to update polling methods?

Just as politicians can suffer from record low approval ratings yet are continually re-elected, pollsters’ clients keep committing themselves to the same groups and practices which have increasingly failed in the first decades of the 21st century. Congressional representatives and senators who keep their jobs despite their track records have about as much of a reason to change as researchers who keep their jobs despite theirs.

Right.  There is no incentive in changing anything if the desired result of staying in power continues to be achieved.

 

Data in Decline, by Steve A. Wood will be made available on Kindle on 15 October 2018.  Stay tuned next week for part two where I will provide more excerpts that discuss the problems professional polls encounter when accounting for sampling biases, and their failure to address them.

As for the beer…Honey Brown is terrible. It tastes like adult onset diabetes in a can, and I cannot in good conscience recommend it.  I would almost rather have purchased another Earthquake in its stead. Almost. Honey Brown: 1.8/5.

Comments

139 responses to “A good book, a beer, and a quiet afternoon.”

  1. Spudalicious

    I like beer.

    First.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      No, you like wine first. Don’t lie.

    2. BakedPenguin

      Considering your handle, I thought you’d like vodka first.

  2. Hyperion

    That beer is about the same color as the beer I was drinking last night (Flat Tire Amber Ale), but with less head. I got an actual hangover from 4 16oz beers. Ouch. I don’t drink that much these days, 2 times I’ve had beer or any alcohol in a month.

    1. Hyperion

      The weather here turned cooler last couple of days. Went from 85 to 65 F in one day. Made me started craving dark beer. I actually wanted a stout or porter last night, but the bar I would up at only had one dark beer, Guinness, ewww! Pass.

  3. Count Potato

    Related posts?

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      This is a new feature that I was made aware of ten minutes ago.

      1. Count Potato

        They change every time the page is refreshed. And some of them don’t seem related to this post.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          They are related to the subject tags. Todays subject tags are Beer, Books, Food & Drink, and KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!!

          1. Count Potato

            It’s the last one then.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Talk about pandering to the readership south of the Mason-Dixon line!

    2. MikeS

      Yeah. Kinda threw me off when I scrolled by them. Change bad!!!!11!!

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        not when I’m featured!
        /I have no idea why I’m still online

        1. MikeS

          Good point!

          Hey, I just heard about your difficulties. Hang in there man. You and your wife are in my thoughts.

        2. DEG

          I also heard about your difficulties. I hope you pull through OK.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Thanks guys! I’m borrowing my way to the poor house, no matter though

  4. MikeS

    Great beer review. 1.8…lowest rating yet?

  5. Spudalicious

    I heard a comment the other day about a pollster saying that they had to contact over 50,000 people to get 1,000 respondents. I think the vast majority are tired of the hyper politicization of our society and just want to be left alone.

    1. Hyperion

      And I bet that a very large percentage of those who responded are totes woke progs. You know, the sort that can not keep their mouth shut for a minute in public about how woke they are? Doubt that many of them are right wingers since the large percentage of those are now extremely distrustful of talking to anyone about politics.

    2. Too bad the fucking politicians song leave us alone.

      1. Won’t, not song, fucking auto-correct.

  6. DEG

    Ever get a call from number you don’t recognize? Ever make the mistake of answering it? I know I have.

    Yes, someone from Minnesoda (I’m shamelessly stealing Pope Jimbo’s spelling) called me the other day. I didn’t answer.

    In the last few weeks I was contacted four separate times by somebody working for a campaign, all of whom were looking for information from me along with gauging my interest in voting. For those interested in knowing: yes, all were from Democrat campaigns.

    Before my vacation, I received a spam text message from a Democrat running the NH primary for some office, I can’t remember what. The text asked me to come out and vote for that candidate so we can have “Medicare For All.” I responded with “Fuck off slaver. Don’t ever contact me again.”

    As for the beer…Honey Brown is terrible. It tastes like adult onset diabetes in a can, and I cannot in good conscience recommend it. I would almost rather have purchased another Earthquake in its stead. Almost. Honey Brown: 1.8/5.

    I remember trying this beer once. I plan to never have it again.

    Thanks! Nice article!

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Thank you…now I just have to write part 2.

      1. DEG

        I look forward to seeing it.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      THAT WAS ME CALLING DEG! Thanks for ignoring me.

      My old work phone got a recycled number from someone with horrible credit. When I’m bored, I’ll take the calls from the Chicago collections agents and tell them that I “Anthony” don’t give a shit that I owe them money and they can go fuck themselves.

      1. DEG

        Your Holiness, if you would have left a message I would have called you back.

        Somehow some scammers who originally were targeting my older brother got a hold of my phone number and some other relatives’ phone numbers. Every now and then we get calls from the scammer which start, “This call is for [DEG’s older brother’s name here].” I delete their voice messages.

    3. Hyperion

      “Ever get a call from number you don’t recognize?”

      Almost every day, and I don’t answer.

      1. MikeS

        #metoo. It gets old.

    4. Our Democratic candidate for the House is simultaneously saying he supports Medicare for All *and* opposes a government takeover of healthcare.

      1. juris imprudent

        Total immunity to cognitive dissonance.

  7. MikeS

    35 degrees and about the same number for wind speed, so I’ll be staying in, day drinking beer while reading about three of my favorite things; North Dakota, history, and beer.

  8. Gustave Lytton

    Steve Wood? It’s like he’s not even trying anymore. I blame a surplus of hikers.

  9. Count Potato

    “Family to sue New York Applebee’s after 17-month-old toddler severely burns himself with scalding water they requested to sterilize their silverware”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6272507/Family-sue-New-York-Applebees-17-month-old-toddler-severely-burns-hot-water.html

    Sterilize their utensils?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      they never saw an industrial dishwasher?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The parents are either stupid or evil or both. I’m feeling generous, so let’s just go with stupid. Poor kid.

    3. They didn’t have a cell phone to call 911 themselves or couldn’t get another patron to call?

    4. Akira

      A friend of mine worked at the Waffle House, and she swore that 99% of African-Americans would ask for either plastic utensils in a sealed pack or a glass of hot water to sterilize the utensils.

      Also, I’m not sure how that’s the restaurant’s fault. It’s not like some clumsy waiter dropped the cup into the baby’s lap or something.

      1. Brochettaward

        The child “somehow” got a hold of it which means the parents didn’t have fucking control over the creature.

    5. And why does the goddamn video keep showing up in the bottom right no matter how many time I close it?

      1. Akira

        Elite Russian hackers acting at the behest of Trump, obviously.

  10. westernsloper

    Glibs are much more interested when I drink something terrible.

    I don’t know about that, but you chose wisely for the goal. That is some shite beer.

    As to polling being wrong, Shirley the gugle, facebuk or the twitters can come up with an algorithm to fix it. Perhaps multiply results by a factor relative to conservative/non statist opinions they silence and or screen.

  11. Count Potato

    “In an astonishing resurfaced interview from 1999, First Lady Melania – then just a young supermodel dating Trump – said could picture herself in the White House.

    She was still named Melania Knauss and was just 26 in the interview dated December 3, 1999 where she talked from behind the scenes of a photoshoot for the North Shore Animal League America campaign in New York City.

    She was still in the honeymoon phrase with beau Donald Trump, 53 at the time, after the two met at a New York Fashion week party just one year prior.

    But even back then Melania said Trump would be a ‘great president’ set for success.

    ‘He’s very smart. He knows how to do a business. He would be a great leader,’ she said in the ABC interview with journalist Don Dahler.

    When asked if she could see herself as the first lady Melania said: ‘Yes. I would be very traditional like Jackie Kennedy and Betty Ford’”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6271767/Melania-fantasized-Lady-1993-interview.html

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I can see drugs and alcohol in her future like her idols.

    2. juris imprudent

      So Melania MacBeth?

  12. straffinrun

    ざまみろ. She left the balcony door open. Bad news is I may have dislocated my thumb scaling the fucking wall. Anyway, safe and sound at least until she stabs me in my sleep.

    1. ざまみろ
      Here I go again,
      My my, how can I resist you?

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Hope it’s the right apartment!

    3. commodious spittoon

      Did you miss the train home?

    1. Plinker762

      A lot of two for one specials in the making?

      1. Rhywun

        I’m sure Britain has some authoritarian ideas up their sleeve to nip that sort of thing in the bug.

        1. Rhywun

          bud, even

    2. C. Anacreon

      Again, a mindless focus on calories rather than the source of the calories. Since carbs are just four calories while fats are nine, this limit will encourage high carb meals. And we know what that approach has led to in the USA.

      1. westernsloper

        I have recently “quit” (I fail sometimes since I lack a backbone) smoking due to an upcoming surgery and am now addicted to sour jolly ranchers and tootsie pops. I mused one day after lunch with coworkers, “what is the calorie count of a tootsie pop?” A guy my age said it didn’t matter, it was only sugar and the body rid itself of excess sugar. Only the brain requires sugar and ones body ejects the rest so he claimed. I am not sure where he gets his information and had to ask where the fuck he learned that. He just looked at me blankly. I have put on 7 lbs in three weeks since replacing cigs with sweets accompanied by constant hunger. Rather than get a cold beer and a pack of smokes for the back route country drive home, I get a cold beer and a dozen chicken wings. I am a pig. There should be a law so I am not a pig.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Under the draft proposals, a standard pizza for one should contain no more than 928 calories – far less than many sold by takeaways, restaurants and shops. And the recommendations suggest that a savoury pie should contain no more than 695 calories.

      928 calories for a pizza & 695 calories for a savory? So arbitrarily pulling numbers out of their ass? When this fails (and it will fail), the next step will be calorie ration cards no doubt. I bet the castrated sole lickers that inhabit Airshit One will go along with it, and just queue up as their grandparents did with rationing into the mid 50’s, rather than lynching the shitheels pour encourager les autres.

    4. RoadSplosives

      Exhibit eleventy for why we must never cede healthcare monopoly to the govt. Once they are “paying” for it, they get to argue that curtailing our rights is necessary to reduce healthcare costs.

      Now fuck off while i enjoy my third cocktail of the day after a nice serving of Kashmiri Red Beef Stew over rice.

    5. RoadSplosives

      Exhibit eleventy for why we must never cede healthcare monopoly to the govt. Once they are “paying” for it, they get to argue that curtailing our rights is necessary to reduce healthcare costs.

      Now fuck off while i enjoy my third cocktail of the day after a nice serving of Kashmiri Red Beef Stew over rice.

      1. It’s obviously the third cocktail that led to the double-post. :-p

        1. RoadSplosives

          Wow, the squirrels must be a few sheets to the wind too! I thought Glibs automatically prevented double posts.

          Nevermind; double posting just emphasizes how true it is.

      2. westernsloper

        I think she means it!

        1. RoadSplosives

          Damned skippy!

      3. MikeS

        Does that mean she’s on cocktail number 6?

        1. RoadSplosives

          We’ll get there…

        2. Gustave Lytton

          I only had *2* cocktails!

          *holds open with all five fingers extended*

      4. Akira

        Exactly. The existence of Medicare and Medicaid is already used as justification for seatbelt laws, restrictions on food freedom, anti-smoking stuff, and all kinds of other intrusions and interference with your personal choices (yet, “progressives” continue to insist that government “welfare” programs are just wonderful free stuff with no downside whatsoever; merely manna from heaven.)

        I might add reason eleventy-one for why the government should not be allowed to take over healthcare: Democrats will unionize the entire healthcare workforce under the AFSCME or SEIU, and costs will go through the fucking roof. If you think it’s expensive right now, wait until it’s unionized and the costs triple and actual outcomes remain stagnant or even decrease (as it has with public schooling ever since unionization).

  13. DEG

    Last night I had a Henniker Kölsch. It tasted good, but it’s too hazy and dark to be a Kölsch.

    I’m on the fence about heading out to a local brewery’s Oktoberfest celebration. It’s New England, so I should expect it to be nothing like a proper Oktoberfest, but on the other hand I like the beer this brewery has produced (though I have not had their Märzen).

  14. The Late P Brooks

    nobody in the comment section claims to ever be contacted by a poll.

    I have reached the point where I rarely answer calls from numbers not already in my phone. If you don’t leave a message, I won’t call back. Pollsters/salesmen hardest hit.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    “Family to sue New York Applebee’s after 17-month-old toddler severely burns himself with scalding water they requested to sterilize their silverware”

    stay the fuck home.

    1. straffinrun

      It wouldn’t be “scalding” water unless it burned someone. /Defense lawyer

  16. westernsloper

    I have been contacted by one pollster in my life, and it was a few months ago during the last primaries. I was half crocked so I talked to the nice young lady. They were most interested on what I thought of a proposed proposition that would raise taxes on the evil rich people and corporations to provide healthcare for us all. I asked who was sponsoring the poll and she would not tell me and only stated who she worked for. I told her I thought the proposition was idiotic and an economy killer and I was not jealous of those who are more successful than I am so I have no desire to plunder their wealth or steal from them. More and more questions and we finally got to education level. I had to say I was one of those “some college” people. We then got to race and she asked what race I identified as. I said, “Wut, I can identify as any one I want?” She laughingly said yes, if I wanted to I could. I said, “naaa, I am white. Just put me down in that standard pollster category you have there for angry white males who never finished college.” And at that she lol’d.

    1. I. B. McGinty

      So did you hook up with her or what?

      1. MikeS

        I like where your head’s at.

      2. westernsloper

        The conversation was over the phone so no.

    2. Brochettaward

      My only two experiences being solicited for political reasons:
      1. Moderately attractive, but fatally retarded young girl in 2008 who accosted me at work. Obama was going to lower the price of gas and give healthcare to all.
      2. Some dirty, disgusting fucking hippy wanted me to sign a petition for a constitutional amendment to allow solar panels on homes. That’s how he phrased it. Which actually wouldn’t be something I’d object to, but fuck this hippy. I stared at him and then told him no and to get away from me. He was perplexed. Not many people had been saying no, clearly.

      1. C. Anacreon

        What in the Constitution prevents solar panels on homes? Unless the Constitution is preventing it, why would an amendment be necessary?

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          I’m happy I’m not alone in this thought coming to mind.

        2. Maybe it was something that would ban localities/HOAs from banning rooftop solar panels?

        3. Brochettaward

          I suspect nothing, though I can’t be positive. This was probably like 5 years ago. This struck me more as people looking to use a constitution to enact favored legislation. So the “right” would have been guaranteed, likely preventing local bans/utility companies from fucking people over. And there was probably some bullshit on subsidies thrown in there to encourage homeowners because why the fuck not? That seems to be the common practice wherever amendments can be proposed via voter initiatives and approved by referendum.

          There’s also some battle in Florida on the issue of solar panels. The utility companies tried getting an amendment through that would have given them a leg up in the battle a few years back.

          1. Brochettaward

            So, yea, apparently this is the battle still going on.

            Amendment 1 read simply, asking voters if there should be “a right under Florida’s constitution for consumers to own or lease solar equipment”.

            In 2015, a group called Floridians for Solar Choice begin petitioning for a ballot amendment that would allow state residents to set up contracts with third party companies that install solar panels for no cost and in return, sell the energy produced back to the consumer.

            Across the US, utility firms see such companies as a threat, as they reduce revenues from residential consumers who are otherwise still connected to their grid.

            A competing amendment by a group called Consumers for Smart Solar cropped up, titled “Rights of Electricity Consumers Regarding Solar Energy Choice”. The title sounded similar and the language seemed to indicate the amendment would be broadly pro-solar, promising a right to “own or lease solar equipment”.

            But instead of being backed by renewable energy and environmental groups, the Smart Solar group was funded by Florida utilities.

          2. Brochettaward

            The real battle is over subsidies. And I’m actually on the side of the utilities here, with most of the media engaging in some impressive double think:

            The issue was the second half of the utility-backed amendment: non-solar consumers would be “not required to subsidize” solar installations. Critics saw this as a way of constitutionally enshrining raised fees to make third-party solar prohibitively expensive.

            Raised fees means paying the actual cost.

            Regardless, none of this is what a constitution is fucking for. So fuck them all.

      2. Hyperion

        “1. Moderately attractive, but fatally retarded young girl in 2008 who accosted me at work. Obama was going to lower the price of gas and give healthcare to all.”

        So when Obama said that under his energy plan, energy costs would necessarily skyrocket, he was lying to us?

    3. I think I’ve been contacted twice. Once probably had to do with GE and the attempts to get them to pay for dredging the Hudson for chemical runoff; I couldn’t quite figure what the questions were driving at.

      The second time was in 2012 and the pollster clearly didn’t have a check box for voting libertarian although she admitted at the end I was the second person that day to say I was voting libertarian.

  17. l0b0t

    It tastes like adult onset diabetes…

    That perfectly articulates my experience with Curmudgeon’s Better Half. Picked up two at Costco; forced myself to finish one, other one is sitting in the garage.

    1. You should have sent it out in Beer It Forward.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        OHHHH, Ironic BIF, send the worst of local craft beers, or 5 good ones and one horribad, and see if the recipient can guess which one….

  18. Yusef drives a Kia

    As Always, good stories to go with bad Beer reviews, keep it up MS!
    /Bad Beer, not Bad reviews

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Thanks Yusef!….I think.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Picked up two at Costco; forced myself to finish one, other one is sitting in the garage.

    Is it too bad to even cook with? Like use it in soup, or stew, or something? Crock pot pot roast?

    1. l0b0t

      It’s far too sweet for me or wifey. It takes several flavors that I adore but apparently when combined taste (to me, YMMV) like Karo corn syrup. Ya know, it might go nicely into a beer-batter bread that is bound for the breakfast table. Thanks Brooks.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Beer brats

  20. Ever get a call from number you don’t recognize? Ever make the mistake of answering it? I know I have.

    Yup, got a text from a number I didn’t recognize the other day asking if I was available to get dinner in Dallas. Assuming that it was an old college buddy, I responded. Wasn’t an old college buddy . . . it was a high school friend’s ex-wife. We all went to high school together and I never really liked her. I even organized an intervention to get my friend to not marry her. Needless to say, I want nothing to do with her.

    Of course, she hasn’t really taken the hint over the past few years, but I can’t be too mean because she works in the same industry as me and I’d probably have bad enough luck to have to work with her right after I told her how it is.

    1. Brochettaward

      Have you thought about sleeping with her and then never talking to her again?

      1. MikeS

        I like where your head’s at.

      2. Hard pass. Not even close to the happy side of the crazy/hot scale.

    2. I don’t live in Dallas, so no, I’m not available to get dinner there.

      1. MikeS

        Then how about Fargo? I know a place that makes excellent wood chipper chipped beef.

        1. My sister lives south of Minneapolis; that’s about as close to Fargo as I’d get.

        2. Mad Scientist

          I learned today that you can go to Fargo and visit the actual woodchipper from the movie.

          1. MikeS

            Well I’ll be. Did not know that.

          2. C. Anacreon

            I’ve always wondered — is the city named Fargo because it is about as far as you can go north in the country?

          3. mexican sharpshooter

            Somewhere in Alaska…somebody is cursing C. Anacreon.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            Not Sam McGee. Unless C. Anacreon left the door open.

          5. MikeS

            Alaska isn’t really part of the country. I mean technically, yeah, but not really.

          6. MikeS

            For C. Anacreon:

            The city was originally named “Centralia,” but was later renamed “Fargo” after Northern Pacific Railway director and Wells Fargo Express Company founder William Fargo.

            I’m glad they changed it.

          7. DEG

            Another Centralia: Centralia, PA

          8. pistoffnick

            C. Anacreon wrote: “I’ve always wondered — is the city named Fargo because it is about as far as you can go north in the country?”

            Fargo is about 2.5 hours from the Canadian border. When I was in college at NDSU the drinking age was 21, but the drinking age in Manitoba was 19.

  21. Brochettaward

    I’ve seen this story before. Why, it’s the exact same thing they accused Trump of before the election!

    Over the past decade, Jared Kushner’s family company has spent billions of dollars buying real estate. His personal stock investments have soared. His net worth has quintupled to almost $324 million.

    And yet, for several years running, Mr. Kushner — President Trump’s son-in-law and a senior White House adviser — appears to have paid almost no federal income taxes, according to confidential financial documents reviewed by The New York Times.

    His low tax bills are the result of a common tax-minimizing maneuver that, year after year, generated millions of dollars in losses for Mr. Kushner, according to the documents. But the losses were only on paper — Mr. Kushner and his company did not appear to actually lose any money. The losses were driven by depreciation, a tax benefit that lets real estate investors deduct a portion of the cost of their buildings from their taxable income every year.

    1. MikeS

      The losses were driven by depreciation, a tax benefit that lets real estate investors deduct a portion of the cost of their buildings from their taxable income every year.

      Way to keep up the class warfare, assholes. This is done by everyone from billionaires all the way down to cottage industry businesses. Fuck off.

    2. Not an Economist

      So they take advantage of the tax code just like every other rich person?

    3. commodious spittoon

      Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy, he’s doing something legal! Oh my word!

    4. juris imprudent

      I guess it fails to register to a NYT reporter to talk to a NYT corporate accountant.

      1. Mad Scientist

        I’m sure the venerable New York Times has never deducted the depreciation on their $850 million dollar building.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          I bet they used it as collateral recently.

    5. Gustave Lytton

      according to confidential financial documents reviewed by The New York Times

      Unless the Kushners provided the documents, how exactly did the NYT come to acquire them? Sounds like they’re the receipt of stolen goods, which is how they should be labeled, not ‘confidential documents’. And how exactly did the supposed fact checkers at the NYT validate these documents if they were confidential? Because the supplier said so?

      1. Akira

        You gotta remember, we’re talking about a media outlet that thinks “sources familiar with the president’s thinking” is a line that establishes unshakeable truth.

        1. Rhywun

          I’m sure they have a friendly operative or hundred in the IRS.

    6. westernsloper

      The losses were driven by depreciation, a tax benefit that lets real estate investors deduct a portion of the cost of their buildings from their taxable income every year.

      Tax benefit? I think food stamps are a tax benefit and depreciation is a tax deduction. I didn’t read the article but I am sure they ended with a call to eliminate all deductions and push for a flat or fair tax and end all tax payer funded benefits to those who don’t pay taxes.

      1. C. Anacreon

        Perhaps someone should tell them what the D in EBIDA stands for.

  22. Timeloose

    I’m going to the local brewery tasting room later today to see if they will host A musical event for me next year. I’ll then be head into another similar place to compare facilities, price, equipment needed, and compare the two. So beers this afternoon for me.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Karo corn syrup.

    *retches*

  24. DEG

    Epping, NH man fights opposition to home based firearms business

    A resident whose proposal to sell guns from his Epping home was shot down by selectmen this week plans to fight the decision.

    Brian Derrico said Friday that he will appeal to the town’s Zoning Board of Adjustment as he continues to push for the firearms sales business that he wants to run out of his residence at 10 Sydney Lane.

    “My feeling is that the business I’m trying to do is not restricted by the zoning laws,” said Derrico, who moved into the neighborhood in September.

    At a meeting Tuesday, selectmen voted 4-1 to reject Derrico’s permit for the home business after neighbors, some saying they’re supporters of the Second Amendment, opposed the idea of operating in a residential area with children around.

  25. DEG

    Asshole visits NH

    Michael Bloomberg, a possible presidential candidate in 2020, is expected to be in Nashua today, meeting with city Democrats.

    “I am excited about it. I am really excited that he is able to come to town and meet with us,” said state Rep. Sue Newman.

    Bloomberg is planning to meet with several candidates seeking office in November, including Newman, Rep. Jan Schmidt, Alderman Linda Harriott-Gathright and newcomers Liz McConnell, Michelle Sawyer-Moge and Robin Skudlarek.

    “I am thrilled that he is able to come to town. He has put a lot of time and energy into this,” Newman said of Bloomberg, the former New York City mayor. “We are really thrilled he is taking the time to have some coffee and conversation with us, and if he has the time to campaign and canvas with us, that would be even better.”

    Bloomberg has been invited to attend today’s Moms Demand Action event starting at 10:30 a.m. at Nashua City Hall Plaza, 229 Main St.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    What in the Constitution prevents solar panels on homes?

    EVERYTHING NOT MANDATORY IS PROHIBITED

  27. The Late P Brooks

    His low tax bills are the result of a common tax-minimizing maneuver that, year after year, generated millions of dollars in losses for Mr. Kushner, according to the documents. But the losses were only on paper — Mr. Kushner and his company did not appear to actually lose any money. The losses were driven by depreciation, a tax benefit that lets real estate investors deduct a portion of the cost of their buildings from their taxable income every year.

    Huh. It’s almost as if that “common tax-minimizing maneuver” is right there the tax code.

    The horror.

    1. ruodberht

      Holy fuck, that journalist just discovered depreciation that very day?

      Reminds me of ENB being gobsmacked that “felony murder” was a thing.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Reminds me of ENB being gobsmacked that “felony murder” was a thing.

    You’re not really dead if it wasn’t a hate crime.

    1. RoadSplosives

      “I meant my deliberate killing of him in the nicest possible way, Your Honor.”

  29. Tres Cool

    At least someone remembered to give a shout-out to the EARFquake. Likely one of my favorite reviews:

    “Here in Ohio we get the 10% variety so I’m not sure how much that makes a difference.
    Anyway.

    You should know what you’re getting into when you pop an Earthquake. This isn’t a beer to be enjoyed, this is a beer to make you want to fist fight telephone poles and it does it’s job.
    It’s much sweeter than its malt lager brethren which makes it a bit easier to stomach but it’s still pretty harsh. Drink one on a dare or if you are on a super low budget looking to catch a buzz.”

  30. Well, my hangover is almost gone from last night… I guess the best thing to do is follow the advice of this article and start drinking again.

    1. Tres Cool

      You waited till its nearly gone? Shoulda been more aggressive and attacked it with more booze the moment your eyes opened.

    2. MikeS

      You haven’t started yet? Bro, do you even hair of the dog?

    3. westernsloper

      Jesus man, a proper hangover must be addressed with morning coffee by way of morning drinking. The only reason to wait to drink on a hangover is if you are out of booze and have to wait for the liquid store to open which means you are a bad planner as well as a hungover drunk.

    4. I woke up long enough to post morning tits, then went back to bed. Don’t worry, I’ll catch back up.

      1. Also, I think we’ve reached the one and only issue on which libertarians have consensus.

  31. RoadSplosives

    Instant Pot enthusiasts! I made a successful experiment out of adapting a recipe that usually takes hours and several steps into an easy Instant Pot version.

    Kashmiri Rogan Josh for Instant Pot

    Pinch of asafoetida powder
    2 TBSP olive oil
    2 sticks cinnamon
    6 whole cloves
    6 black cardamom pods
    6 green cardamom pods
    3 lb lamb or beef chuck cut into 1-1/2 inch cubes
    25 oz sour cream (or yogurt if you prefer high carb to high fat)
    1 tsp Kosher salt
    1/4 cup Kashmiri chili powder (or 3 TBSP paprika + 1 TBSP cayenne)
    1 TBSP amchur powder (mango powder)
    1 TBSP fennel seeds, ground (in spice grinder or mortar & pestle)
    1/4 tsp garam masala

    Heat oil in Instant Pot on saute. Add asafoetida and stir quickly with wooden paddle. Add cinnamon, cardamom, cloves and stir 30-60 seconds until fragrant. Add meat and stir well. Add powdered fennel, amchur, salt, and chili powder. Blend in 25 oz of sour cream; use your wooden paddle or spoon to ensure nothing is stuck to the bottom. Add a splash of water if needed to unstick from the bottom. Turn off saute.

    Lock lid on Instant Pot. Set for 40 minutes high pressure. Reward yourself with a cocktail while the magic happens. When pressure cycle is done, let sit for 5 minutes before a manual pressure release. Open lid and stir. Put back on saute and cook down liquid to desired consistency.

    Add garam masala and serve over rice.
    Recipe can be doubled for 6 qt pot.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Ooooh. Sounds yummy.

    2. Sounds awesome. Mr. Splosives is a lucky guy.

  32. juris imprudent

    Well, I was inspired to go get the growler filled with some Marzen and it was a damn good thing I did. They were on the last keg of it – for the season!