Sourdough Soft Pretzels

When one has sourdough starter, one is obligated to use it regularly. I am one of those people who can’t stand to throw out the discard when I feed it, and, happily, with this recipe, I don’t have to.

For those of you without sourdough starter on hand, I suggest you try either Baking God Peter Reinhart’s recipe or Alton Brown’s. I’ve had success with both. For shaping technique, definitely check out Peter’s video.

However, I, immodestly, like my recipe better.

Tips:

1. Some recipes will tell you that you do not need to do an alkali bath. They are wrong. It is crucial to getting the outside texture and color right. DO NOT SKIP IT.

Usually, I use a simple homemade concentrated baking soda (which I also use when making bagels), but this time I didn’t realize I was out until time to add to the pot of water. Oops. So, regular baking soda will definitely do in a pinch. You’ll lose some of the deep mahogany color, but that’s OK! I can assure you that the pretzels will still be pretty and taste fabulous.

2. Many bakers, including Peter Reinhart, will tell you that you don’t need to do a boiling water bath for the alkali dip. When I was first learning to bake, I was taught to do the boiling water thing, so I still do. YMMV. Experiment! Whether doing boiling water or room temp, using a “spider” skimmer when removing the pretzels will minimize the amount of residual water you add to the baking sheet.

3. I like to weigh all my ingredients for baking, instead of using a volume measure. (I use this scale.) However, since many people lack a kitchen scale, I’ve written the recipe out in volume approximates. You may need to adjust as you go.

4. You are going to want to dive into these immediately upon removing them from the oven, but you really need to wait 3-5 minutes so as to not scorch the roof of your mouth. Use the time to portion out some mustards or other dipping sauces, and take photos for your social media or to share here.

5. You can certainly serve these with cheese sauce. I use my regular queso recipe, but any would work.

6. These are obviously great with beer, if you’re into that kind of thing (I’m not). I prefer to pair with a margarita if serving with my queso, which is quite spicy.

 

 

SP's Sourdough Soft Pretzels

Super simple, super scrumptious.

For pretzels

  • 3/4 cup warm water
  • 1 cup sourdough starter (either unfed or fed will work)
  • 3-1/4 cups unbleached bread flour ((approximate))
  • 1/2 tbsp sugar
  • 1 tbsp olive oil
  • 1 tsp salt
  • 2 tsp instant yeast
  • whole wheat flour, as needed (optional)
  • coarse salt for sprinkling on pretzels before baking

For alkali bath

  • 1/2 cup baking soda
  • 4 cups water

For the dough

  1. Mix water, sourdough starter, flour, sugar, olive oil, salt and instant yeast in a medium bowl until well combined. If the dough is too wet to knead, mix in whole wheat flour until a kneadable dough is formed. This will vary based on how liquid your sourdough starter is. I usually add about 1/3 cup whole wheat flour at this point.

  2.  Knead the dough until it comes together in a smooth, slightly tacky ball. 

  3. Place the dough ball in an oiled bowl and cover. Allow the dough to rest until puffy, about an hour. It doesn’t need to double, but it’s fine if it does.

Shape the pretzels

  1. Preheat the oven to 425F. Line a baking sheet with parchment paper or a silicone baking mat. Set aside.

  2. Deflate dough and divide into 8 uniform balls. 

  3. On a floured surface, shape each dough ball into a long rope, at least 18 inches long. The final shape and size of your pretzels will depend on this step. Make the rope longer and thinner for a more open pretzel form.

  4. Form a large U shape with one dough rope, with the open part of the U facing away from you.  Cross one end of the rope over the other, forming an X at the top center of the open space with about 3 inches of extra rope at the ends. Twist the ends around each other once more, and bring the ends toward you to rest on the curved section of dough that is closest to your body. Press the ends onto the dough. (See linked video above for shaping help if needed.)

  5. Gently lift your formed pretzel and place on the lined baking sheet. 

  6. Repeat until all pretzels have been formed.

Bake and serve

  1. Place 4 cups water in a sauce pan and add the baking soda. Mix until thoroughly dissolved. Bring the water to a boil.

  2. Working one at a time, gently lift a formed pretzel and place in the boiling water. Boil the pretzel for 15 seconds. Turn over and continue boiling for another 15 seconds. Lift the pretzel out of the water using a skimmer and place it back on the baking sheet.

  3. Repeat until all pretzels have been boiled.

  4. Sprinkle the pretzels with coarse salt to taste.

  5. Bake pretzels until deep brown, approximately 16 minutes.  Remove from oven and place on a rack to cool for 5 minutes.

  6. Serve with a variety of mustards and dipping sauces, or cheese sauce.

 

Comments

195 responses to “Sourdough Soft Pretzels”

  1. RoadSplosives

    *Drool*

    Might have to see if I can get some famous San Francisco sourdough starter so I can give this a whirl…

    1. SP

      Easy to make your own starter, but you can also buy it dehydrated from King Arthur Flour or vendors on Etsy.

      Often, too, one can get some from a local baker, if you know any.

      1. Caput Lupinum

        Local brewers, as well, will often give you some of their yeast. If they make sour beers then you can use their starters for sourdough. I haven’t tried making pretzels yet, I’ll give these a go.

        1. RoadSplosives

          Cool idea! No shortage of microbreweries in San Diego.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      You know how good you think they are?

      They’re better.

      /totally objective opinion

  2. You can have vegan queso?

    1. SP

      Well, I’m only trying to be 90% vegan….

      1. pan fried wylie

        “ovolactovegetarian”

        It’s like you’re not even trying to not-shitlord. shitlord.

    2. Not Adahn

      There is a veggie/vegan Mexican chain in Austin called “Juan in a Million.” I don’t remember if they had “queso” there.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      There’s a Kosher Mexican place I ate at in Riverdale that had some sort of non-dairy queso and cheeses. No idea what was in it.

      1. AlexinCT

        That was fromunda cheese… You know, from unda da ballz..

      2. SP

        I’d rather go without queso than try that monstrosity.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I actually don’t remember it being that bad. Especially the guac, because they can’t cut it with milk.

          http://www.carlosandgabbysriverdale.com/menu.html

  3. Yusef drives a Kia

    How I wish I had the resources, Looking Tasty SP!

    1. SP

      Thanks, Yusef. Super easy and cheap, two of my favorite things. 😉

  4. westernsloper

    Nice, thanks SP. *printed to pdf (thanks for that tab) Have you ever tried to make buns from the same recipe? I like me a pretzel bun from time to time.

    Football food today was Hot Links and Mash. (not y’alls cup of tea I know) Fried up some sliced hotlinks and made instant mashed potatoes. Added mashed potatoes to pan and browned them getting crispy bits. The crispy mash goes great with hot links. Total white trash food. Serve with cheap beer and meth.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Sounds Great WS! ‘cept for the Meth, will switch out for Weed 🙂

    2. SP

      Might not be OMWC’s thing, but I’d eat that.

      I’d encourage you to experiment with making rolls from this. I don’t think the hydration level is right, though.

      This recipe looks good.

  5. A Leap at the Wheel

    Nice. I made some oatmeal rye sandwich bread today.

    1. SP

      That sounds great!

  6. I like to weigh all my ingredients for baking, instead of using a volume measure.

    Fellow weight baker has a sad. Do you have the weight measurements available to post? 🙂

    1. pan fried wylie

      “I like to weigh all my ingredients for baking. Here’s the volumes…”

      Bait and Switch.

    2. SP

      I’ll create an alternate .pdf when I get some time later and add a link to this post.

  7. Tulip

    These look great!

    1. SP

      Thanks, Tulip!

  8. Not Adahn

    Tonight I’m stuffing a couple of honeynut squashes with some non-vegan filling and roasting them.

    1. SP

      I have never had a honeynut squash. I shall have to look for them.

  9. Not Adahn

    On topic: my mother used to make pretzels when I was a kid, and they always had a bitter taste from the alkali bath. Can you rinse them after the boiling step, or does the alkali have to be on during the bake?

    1. pan fried wylie

      the higher pH is respsonsible for the browning. the question I guess is, does the boiling step incorporate enough base into the surface of the dough?

    2. SP

      I never get that result with my concentrated baking soda or regular baking soda, but had that once with a lye bath. It’s one reason I don’t use it any longer.

  10. BakedPenguin

    Wow. I was thinking of getting a pizza. Now I feel like a dick,

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Dicks eat pizza too.

    2. squishy and limp?

    3. SP

      I’d eat pizza…anytime, actually.

      1. BakedPenguin

        HM: Yuh, they do. trashy: not sure what f-ing pizza you eat. Don’t wanna know. SP: understood.

      2. Mustang

        I like you SP. I am also a pizza fiend.

    4. Tundra

      So have a dick. We won’t judge.

      SP, these look great!

      1. BakedPenguin

        Huh hah! Minnesota boy, you suck as hard as your worthless football team! hahaha!

        1. Tundra

          Yeah? Well at least we have a great hockey tea…. uh ….

          Fuck.

          *drinks*

          1. MikeS

            There’s always the Lynx.

          2. Tundra

            *drinks more*

          3. TARDIS

            At least you have a “team”. It is at this time of year my want is keenly felt. Rejoice in your abundance. I live in one of the sorriest professional sports metros in existence. We’re talking top ten TV audience market with no NHL. The nearest pro hockey is an hour away in light (ha ha) traffic, and it not even farm club level. At least Houston can pretend to like the South Stars. I guess, I’m gonna root for the Predators.

          4. TARDIS

            *drinks even more*

          5. Rhywun

            You can have the Rangers.

          6. TARDIS

            Fine. They can move here and call themselves the Shermans.

          7. Rhywun

            Hockey shouldn’t exist south of the Mason-Dixon line anyway.

          8. Tundra

            Wrong. Hockey should exist everywhere.

  11. Heroic Mulatto

    Never trust a skinny chef.

    I trust Peter Reinhart immensely.

    1. SP

      Every recipe of his I’ve ever made has been terrific. I have several of his cookbooks. His Neo-Neapolitan Pizza Dough has been my go-to lately.

  12. pan fried wylie

    The perfect football food

    No distance, the aerodynamics are all wrong.

    1. Mustang

      *spits coffee*

      Nice one.

  13. Smilin’ Joe Fission

    Mmmmmmm.

  14. AlmightyJB

    Awesome:) Can’t wait to try!

  15. Trials and Trippelations

    Can’t believe I woke up to a close game between the panthers and giants

    That Gano 63 yarder was nuts

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Philly – Vikes?

    Bleah.

    1. Tundra

      Missed kick already!

      /skol!

      1. Not as bad as Crosby. 🙁

        1. RoadSplosives

          What happened to him? Despite the fact that he’s a Packer, I hold his skill in high regard. I hope he can figure out what’s going on.

          Vinatieri had a slump in mid-career. He and Crosby should chat.

          (Vinatieri is my absolute fave, and also the only guy playing in the NFL who is older than I am. When Vinny hangs it up, I’m officially old.)

        2. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

          Bing or Denise?

  17. Mojeaux

    Chiefs.

    That is all.

    1. BakedPenguin

      Jesus. I used to respect you.

      I wanna cry….

      1. Tundra

        Lol. Mrs. Tundra had the Jags defense in her weekly FF league.

        I warned her!

        1. Mojeaux

          And here I was thinking our defense wouldn’t show up. Oh look!

      2. Trials and Trippelations

        Could be worse at least she’s not a Pats fan 😉

      3. Mojeaux

        Salty tears, so delicious.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Browns 2.0 beat Browns 1.0

    Have another pretzel, OMWC.

    1. Grummun

      Grummun: [ laughs ]

      Mrs. Grummun: What?

      Grummun: The Browns beat the Ravens.

      Mrs. Grummun: I don’t know much about football, but I know you don’t want to be the team that got beat by the Browns.

      1. westernsloper

        Ha.

        At least I didn’t have to watch the Broncos lose today. I fell asleep. Which, I am finding, is the most enjoyable way to watch a Bronco game.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Spit beer all over!

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Took it up the Brown hole.

  19. I didn’t see this posted in any 0f the threads here, but:

    20 killed in limousine crash maybe an hour or so from me, UCS, and Adahn.

    18 in the limo, and two more when the limo hit a parked car that hit two innocent bystanders.

    And yesterday was the one evening I didn’t watch the local news….

    1. Tundra

      That’s horrible. Driver must have had a heart attack or something.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        That’s probably the best case scenario.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      I don’t see how it’s possible to blow a stop sign at the dead end leg of a T junction going over 60 MPH.

    3. SP

      Yeah, I know that intersection. (Ex has relatives in the area.) My first thought was medical emergency on the part of the driver, but OMWC puts his money on the driver texting.

      Investigation and autopsy will probably show what happened.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I’m going to go with intentional.

      2. Not an Economist

        I’m betting bad brakes as in lack there of.

    4. Not Adahn

      Cuomo will be calling for new limousine regulations on Monday I have no doubt.

    5. Plinker762

      Also near where the bridge collapsed in ’87

  20. Winston

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/06/brett-kavanaugh-confirmed-ugly-win-trump-and-republicans-column/1547362002/

    The keenest tragedy of Kavanaugh’s sordid confirmation is its effect on the court itself. Its public credibility is everything; in a sense, it is all the court has, and it is gossamer. Justice Stephen Breyer referred to it as the “miracle” of national compliance with the court’s edicts, even in the wake of “controversial” decisions such as Bush v. Gore. The American people accept the highest court’s decisions, particularly in close controversial cases, only to the extent they believe them the product of law and not politics.

    Between Kavanaugh’s archpartisan turn to gain confirmation and the raw political process that won it for him, the court’s legitimacy will now be sorely challenged, and through no act of its own. The Supreme Court has no real way to replenish its institutional capital except to discharge its work honorably over time. But now, every 5-4 decision in which Kavanaugh joins — and there will be a cascade of them — will seem to many more Americans illegitimate and politically driven, and that much harder to swallow. Given the extreme bitterness of the confirmation, it is hard to see this changing soon.

    Trump has managed to insert himself, and his signature brand of contempt and malice, into the most important institution in American government that he had not yet soiled. We already knew that everything Trump touches becomes debased, putrescent. Now his poison touch has infected the Supreme Court, and its venomous effects on the court will persist long after his presidency, even perhaps for as long as his new 53-year-old justice serves.

    1. C. Anacreon

      Somebody got a thesaurus for his birthday.

    2. That’s amazing. The author’s right about the sordidness of the confirmation process, but it’s like he studiously avoided any coverage of the proceedings. I don’t know how else you walk away from that sorry episode thinking that Trump single-handedly introduced tawdry political chicanery into the confirmation process.

      1. Rhywun

        This is just an exercise in casting suspicion on the court. It’s all they have left now. The actuals details behind the confirmation are irrelevant.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      “Trump has managed to insert himself, and his signature brand of contempt and malice, into the most important institution in American government that he had not yet soiled.”

      If we’re going with that analogy, Trump is the guy holding the blacklight, not the guy who pissed the mattress.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        I think more accurately, Trump is the guy who hired two hookers to piss on an already soiled mattress while he masturbated in voyeuristic excitement.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Not an analogy, and I desperately want it to be true.

  21. mikey

    Hey ‘Splosives. You mentioned the Sky Map app on the last thread. Search for Satellite Tracker Apps as well. The night sky in Dugway should be wonderful and you don’t have to wait long to spot a satellite go by. The apps will tell you what they are.

    1. RoadSplosives

      That sounds like fun; I’ll give it a try. Only problem is at night we’ve been working to midnight or 1, so I tend to want to get the eff back to the hotel as soon as we turn off the floodlights.

      But I’ll make an effort to take a break.

  22. Warty

    Fact: undercooked gluten can still carry Jesus eggs. And you don’t want Christworms in your colon, bros.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        I’ve said this before; I want the guy from BBQ Pit Boys to narrate my life.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    We already knew that everything Trump touches becomes debased, putrescent. Now his poison touch has infected the Supreme Court

    Yeah, okay. Thanks for that thoughtful, nuanced analysis.

  24. Mr Lizard

    I’m drunk, what about the rest of you mammals?…

    1. So you’re admitting to being a mammal?

      1. Mr Lizard

        Well I do keep a skin suit for social occasions

      2. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

        At best he’s one of them degenerate thecodonts.

    2. Sean

      Just about to pour my first glass of wine.
      ?

      1. Mr Lizard

        It’s about time

        1. C. Anacreon

          It’s about time,
          It’s about space,
          It’s about time to slap your face!

          /elementary school recess chant

          1. Mr Lizard

            I mean, the logic is not lost on me

    3. MikeS

      Working on it

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Yea Cobra!
        Where’s Tres?

        1. MikeS

          Probably cuing up his mother f’ckn theme music

        2. Not Adahn

          Hey Yusef!

          What’s the best HVAC filter to buy?

          1. The one that automatically checks the thermostat.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            3M. If you go too thick, it wears out the blower motor prematurely. My wife has asthma, so I did it anyway.

        3. Chafed

          Having some special time with Jugsy.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Pix or it didn’t happen.

    4. SP

      About to mix a cocktail to lessen the tedium of (continued) housecleaning.

    5. Raven Nation

      Cognac, just for something different.

    6. Just woke up from post drunk number one nap, I am now going to walk down to the bar to start drunk number two.

      1. egould310

        Have fun, amigo!

        Sipping some chardonnay, about 1/3 of the way into a laundry operation. Thank god the laundromat is next to a bar. When I go back and put stuff in the dryers, I’ll go next door for a cocktail.

    1. Mojeaux

      I saw that.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Bluster.

      Even in the 60’s the best they could do was to get Patty Hearst to rob a bank. I’m not ready to head to my prepper bunker, yet.

      1. Mr Lizard

        I’ve got orbital bombardment cannons and/or a battalion of power-armored Enforcers to back me up so fuck them

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        1974 bro, what time zone are you in?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          what time zone are you in?

          Generation X?

  25. The Late P Brooks

    I’m shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.

    Unlike Senator Susan Collins, who took pages upon pages of text on national television to tell us something we already knew, I will cut right to the chase: I am out of the Republican Party.

    ——–

    Small things sometimes matter, and Collins is among the smallest of things in the political world. And yet, she helped me finally to accept what I had been denying. Her speech on the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh convinced me that the Republican Party now exists for one reason, and one reason only: for the exercise of raw political power, and not even for ends I would otherwise applaud or even support.

    Oh, lordy, there’s politics going on in here. Another “moderate” heads for the fainting couch.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Considering that the planks of the GOP, as it exists now, are indistinguishable from an 80’s “hard hat” Democrat platform, can we blame Nichols? And should we blame Nichols? What is more “political”, compromising one’s principles to stick with a party that has undergone a massive ideological shift centered around a cult of personality or to retain allegiance to it in exchange for its support in your reelection?

      Regardless if one supports the Nu-GOP or the old, this exodus is a welcome development.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Belay that.

        Nichols runs a Twitter account for his cat.

        Fuck that guy.

      2. Winston

        Massive ideological shift?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I realize that one could call it a return to founding principles. But, yes, compared to the GOP of the past 30 years, there has been a seismic shift – particularly in support of Atlanticism as the status quo foreign policy of both parties since the Cold War. It is often, yet inarticulately, described as “Globalism vs. Nationalism”.

          1. Winston

            However Republican governance of the warfare, welfare and surveillance states don’t really seem to have changed that much. US troops are still in Europe, Iraq, Afghanistan for example

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            I’ll grant you that. However, moving from a neo-con strategy requires political capital that Trump hasn’t been able to afford yet. It’s a matter of means and not will, imo.

          3. Winston

            And Republicans not being the limited government fiscal conservatives they claim to be is pretty much the biggest gripe that libertarians have had with Republicans since Eisenhower’s time at least.

          4. Winston

            Republicans have never really strayed too far from Hamiltonianism. I mean Coolidge was an immigration restrictionst, protectionist and prohibitionist after all.

            The Democrats these days have pretty disowned Jefferson and Jackson and slobber over Hamilton.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    The Republicans, however, have now eclipsed the Democrats as a threat to the rule of law and to the constitutional norms of American society. They have become all about winning. Winning means not losing, and so instead of acting like a co-equal branch of government responsible for advice and consent, congressional Republicans now act like a parliamentary party facing the constant threat of a vote of no-confidence.

    That it is necessary to place limitations, including self-limitations, on the exercise of power is—or was—a core belief among conservatives.

    I love how people just take some idiosyncratic, self-referential definition of “true” [insert political tribe] and accuse everybody else of failing to live up to it.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      “constitutional norms”

      Whatever the fuck that means

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Reading the Constitution? that norm?

  27. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t see how it’s possible to blow a stop sign at the dead end leg of a T junction going over 60 MPH.

    Wet leaves.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Considering that the planks of the GOP, as it exists now, are indistinguishable from an 80’s “hard hat” Democrat platform, can we blame Nichols? And should we blame Nichols?

    I’m all in favor of principled scrutiny and ongoing assessment of performance. I just find it suspiciously sudden nd convenient.

    He says he’ll vote for anybody with a good idea, elsewhere in the piece. Good for him. Was somebody holding him hostage before yesterday?

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Fair enough.

    1. MikeS

      Ah. Unrequited love. So sad.

    2. Tundra

      Kinda racist. Love triangles know no color, dude.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        But you cannot deny that those were the exact words running through the reporter’s head.

        1. Tundra

          And mine. But I’m trying to be better.

    3. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

      The Hapsburgs have fallen on hard times looks like.

  29. Winston

    So habeas corpus. The famous 1679 act was passed by a scumbag who was busy executing innocent people, who had no defence attorneys by the way, and was fine with acts of attainder.

  30. Yusef drives a Kia

    So, I sell a plane of mine, the guy doesn’t show up, he texts me just now and ask if it’s perfect, and do i take PayPal. My ad said, Perfect condition, never wrecked and Cash only, why is that so hard? why did it take a week to get an answer? Why Haggle over a smoking good deal? Perfect
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/VCSk65gGsLUSSC2b8

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I bid one crisp $10 bill.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I’ll give you a plane, if you have the balls to learn to fly, seriously how about this one,https://hobbyking.com/en_us/mercury-3d-flat-foam-depron-900mm-w-motor-kit.html?___store=en_us check the spec, you can walk next to it as you fly, it’s that light/have tons of lift

    2. SP

      That is someone going to rip you off. Don’t continue the conversation.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        IF, he shows up in an hour, OK otherwise, I’m selling to another guy, Cash only!
        And I found 3 other offers that I should have received via Email, Damn RC Groups!

        1. MikeS

          Listen to SP. If ever you should be saying “fuck off Tulpa”, it should be to this “buyer”.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Damn you logical Glibs! i already sent a VM to another Guy, the first one is shall we say, I know who lives in his Neighborhood and they love to haggle kind of people. i shall be patient, TY Mike and SP

          2. Tres Cool

            He lives in a bazaar ?
            You’re in Marrakesh ?

          3. Tres Cool

            I know what that is w/o even looking….

          4. Tundra

            Yep. Too easy.

  31. creech

    It doesn’t look much like the NFL has to worry about the Eagles repeating as Super Bowl Champs.

    1. Tundra

      No. But I really enjoyed that Linval Joseph TD.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    And another thing- this new talking point about how the Republicans have abandoned principle for power neatly overlooks the Democrats’ scorched earth tactics. It would be one thing if the Democrats had presented some sort of principled opposition based on his publicly available rulings, but if the Republicans had not rammed Kavanaugh over the goal line in the face of the outrageous personal smears, they would have ceded the ability to nominate anybody at all.

    1. Raven Nation

      Projection is a powerful thing. I’ve seen similar things at work and once it clicked with me, it made life somewhat easier.

  33. Winston

    Heroic Mulatto I find your concerns about “owning the libs” a wee bit off considering how you bemoan the decline of classical liberalism. I mean the classical liberals were a bunch of partisan hacks more concerned about winning than principle too.

    Also things like judicial independence and civil rights were adopted for some very self-serving reasons. I mean Locke was fine with overthrowing the government with foreign backing and the expulsion of judges who disapproved of that act. And he was patronized by Shaftesbury who did some pretty shitty like supporting the Popish Plot which helped lead to Habeas Corpus Act and the Whig Party,

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      We are GLIB! not LIB, no one owns us!
      Fuck off Tulpa!!!!

    2. Jarflax

      Fortunately when you value principles not principals ad hominem attacks on your philosophers is meaningless

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Tu quoque is also a logical fallacy.

        1. Jarflax

          “All we like sheep have gone astray”

  34. The Late P Brooks

    My ad said, Perfect condition, never wrecked and Cash only

    How much C4 pizza will it carry?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      it’s a 3d Plane, it would lift an Xtra large Deep Dish Casserole with ease…..

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      point towards Enemy….. With a good pilot, shit could happen, and there are many 1000s of good RC pilots in the US alone, all this Drone shit is just that, SHIT

      1. Jarflax

        wait your plane comes with a claymore?

  35. Mustang

    Because of you people I started baking bread. I need to make some sourdough now.

    Fuck, why do carbs have to be so good?

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Menopause?

      1. Mustang

        That explains the heat waves…

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      “Because of you people I started baking bread” My problem as well, it’s all SP’s fault 🙂

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Yusef- does anybody make an RC kit of the original Northrop Flying Wing? Those things are unbelievably cool.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      maybe, but I have built a Dozen Flying wings, using plans from others, then modified them for my own tastes, they really are that easy to build/fly,
      Go to Hobbyking.com and look around, cheap too!

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Been there, done too many, FW are easy, and a Blast to fly!

  37. Chipping Pioneer

    Maybe not the ingredients, but the process looks very similar to the process for making (((bagels))).

  38. Tres Cool

    Mr Lizard on October 7, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    I’m drunk, what about the rest of you mammals?…

    Just got home from an obligatory family function with Jugsy and her kin-folk in N. Ky. Consequently, I couldn’t wait to rip into 10/$10 Milwaukee’s Diet Beast 24-OUNCERS the moment I hit the door.

    Im already on #3

    1. Tres Cool

      And HEY YUFUS !

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Sup Tres!
        Sold a plane!
        /Tall Cans!

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Just the facts, Ma’am.

    After a bitter confirmation process, Kavanaugh was officially sworn in as the 114th Supreme Court justice on Saturday. The conservative judge faced national backlash and two FBI investigations over allegations of sexual assault brought forward first by Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, and then several other women.

    Ford, a professor in California, accused Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her while he was intoxicated at a high school party in the early 1980s. The respected academic testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee that she was “100 percent” certain that the justice was her attacker.

    But the body, which has a Republican majority that has tended to support the rights of men over women, decided to move forward with Kavanaugh’s nomination, leading to his confirmation by the Senate, which is also Republican controlled, this weekend.

    Good grief.

    1. Rhywun

      Your mainstream media, folks.

      1. Tres Cool

        And despite a very public offer by law enforcement in Maryland, she still didnt want to file an official complaint, and start an investigation.
        Such brave.

    2. westernsloper

      that has tended to support the rights of men over women,

      Citation needed.

      “I actually studied his cases, and I read his, particularly his dissents, which are very telling, very much against reproductive choice,” the senator pointed out earlier in the interview.

      Name these dissents Senator. Given your previous statements on the matter, I don’t believe one word you say so I must assume you are full of shit. See how that works? It is called credibility and you have none.

    3. commodious spittoon

      Due process favors men, see. We know that because a woman wasn’t allowed to wait four decades to tell a highly incomplete story that nobody she named was willing to corroborate, and drum her assailant out of public life on her say-so. Damn that due process!!

    4. Ownbestenemy

      I treat all of Newsweek as opinion pieces because they are.

  40. Yusef drives a Kia

    SOLD! Nice guy, works a lot, Cash is King and He wants to buy more, maybe….I only have 2 more I May sell

  41. commodious spittoon

    There’s a tiny theater on 4th Street in Albuquerque where I saw a so-so comedy about Jews and the afterlife. The main character was, get this, very neurotic and confused about his faith.

    1. Tres Cool

      -1 Soon-Yi

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        +1 Long Pork YU!

  42. Tres Cool

    Since I spent the afternoon trapped with an offensive brood of in-bred peckerwoods, and despite being 15 minutes from Paul Brown Stadium, I missed the Bengals win.

    #WHO-DEY

    And the brownies pulled one out in OT v. Baltimore. Well, good for them I say.

  43. Yusef drives a Kia

    I almost wish I still watched Football, so I could give a shit,
    /Go Pack?

    1. Tres Cool

      Roses are red.
      Violets are blue.
      Green Bay packs fudge,
      And cheeseheads do, too.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I like Cheese and i like Fudge,
        the Browns at the Super Bowl?
        HAHAHAHAHAAAA!
        /Fajitas and Cobra!

  44. Rhywun

    LOL… New York’s commie-lite “Working Families Party” is running Cynthia Nixon for a position she never asked for so they can pencil in Cuomo for governor and keep their ballot access. Be funny if she wins.

    1. Tres Cool

      Fellow-travelers gonna travel, yo

  45. mikey

    Janice Fiemengo`s take on poor little Chritine.
    https://youtu.be/cFL6k5yOAFM