I have argued for a long time that the War on Drugs is the most destructive domestic policy since slavery. When you look at the inordinate rates of incarceration, it is best viewed as a direct continuation of Jim Crow laws and their impact on minority subjugation.
While we all see the damage of the Drug War and the consequences inflicted on all involved, there are invisible and pernicious side effects that mostly go unnoticed. During my time in my hostel in Vietnam, I experienced something firsthand that often goes under the radar. The foreseeable consequences shoved down your throat.
The guy at the front desk at my place offered me some weed. After a long day in the heat showing my mother around Hanoi, I was more than happy to purchase. I get into my room, had several drinks and smoked a large joint in the bathroom.
I proceeded to chill, read and listen to music. And then the disturbance began.
My private room is at the end of the hall. I hear a man and a woman, both in their early 20s by the sound of it, start to argue. It sounded like the man had gotten her down from the rooftop bar to begin his tirade.
He is yelling at her. Something about her needing to “open [her] eyes” about something. It seemed very obvious that he was railing into her about how she could be so blind to not see how her boyfriend/significant other was cheating on her. I could be wrong about that, but that’s the gist that I got.
I heard violent sounds. He wasn’t hitting her, but was banging doors and hollow metal, probably an air-conditioner unit. He was violently punching his own hand as punctuation. I could hear when she spoke but not what she said.
I could only hear her sniffling and weeping.
I was very concerned. I got on the floor and listened through the crack below the door. I got a cup to put to my ear to hear, though of no real advancement in my acoustic surveillance. The beratement continued.
Amidst many slammed doors and stops-and-starts, a lull blanketed the hallway. I paused in introspection. My brain wants me to intervene. I’ve gotten one beating in my life and that was in Germany preventing a girl from being raped. Three men took turns kicking me in the face until I was unconscious. I was broken, but I’m very proud of that moment. I didn’t know if I’d have to do such a thing again.
It began again. But this time it was another voice doing the shouting. I gathered that it was the boyfriend who had been called out. More door slamming. More punching of metal. More violent fists in palms.
I decided to do something. I have two titanium hips and there’s a big concrete staircase. I can’t get directly involved, I figured. But maybe my appearance and a wary eye would keep people on their better behavior. I get dressed and put my shoes on.
As I went to open the door, a sickening wave fell over me. I smelled my room. I evaluated myself. I am half-drunk, very stoned, and my room reeks like Paul McCartney’s in 1966. I took my hand off the knob.
I thought about calling the lobby for help. But even then I realized that I would be a person-of-interest, and I certainly didn’t want to get in drug trouble in Commie Vietnam while on vacation with my mother.
I was disgusted with myself. I kept listening and monitoring the situation. But I didn’t dare step outside my enclave and approach a confrontation where it sounded like imminent violence was about to ensue.
I was too terrified to try to help this poor girl who was surrounded by at least two–drunk–large men who were doing everything that they could to intimidate her. Or possibly worse.
This is just one of the evil, unseen effects of the Drug War. See Something; Say Something, they preach. But how many crimes go unreported because the witness is afraid to talk to the authorities or to testify because of some bullshit drug charge is hanging over them? I wasn’t being threatened by some thug or a criminal syndicate. I felt threatened by what the government could do to me and how they could ruin my life. All because of a plant.
There isn’t much of a difference between the government and the Mafia. Punishment is punishment, regardless of who your jury is.
I am sickened by how I responded to these external forces. But I do know why I acted the way that I did. It doesn’t make me feel better. Rather the opposite.
People are handicapped by these immoral laws. They don’t report things that they know are wrong because they are trained to be fearful of the imminent reprisal. Is my getting beaten and sent to jail for smoking weed worth a girl getting thrashed around a bit?
It’s a deeply disturbing calculus that goes through your head when you attempt to rationalize your decision to do nothing.
A law on the books actively prevented me from helping a person in a very violent confrontation. That is the effect of these laws. I can only gather that this is how they want me to feel.
Helpless. Alone. Dependent.
And any attempt to do any good is struck down with the violent gavel of the God of Government.
That’s the problem. Good people afraid to do good things. Because the punishment that might follow isn’t worth the gamble.
This reminds me of A book someone gave me decades ago. My first step away from neoconservatism.
Fuck off, Tulpa.
That took a while. What? Is everybody WORKING?
Fuck You!
/Is that better?
Yes, thanks. And by thanks, I mean….
Uh,… RAPE?
STEVE SMITH THANKS YOU!!
And by Thank mean?
RAAAAAAAAPE!
Nope. Fuck you too. Notice the lack of capitalization. It’s similar to rape, but much nicer and includes consent.
*slinks back to ugh project*
Well, I’m not WORKING, so, paint more Army Men?
Interesting perspective that I hadn’t considered in light of the drug war. Thanks for sharing. I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about if things were better in the good old days of yore when chivalrous intervention may result in unsanctioned violence but rarely a criminal charge for the person standing up for someone else. These days it seems that schools and law enforcement are more inclined to just punish everyone involved which seems to have emboldened (or at least failed to discourage) the worse elements while discouraging “good people” from intervening. That being said I may be looking at this with a distorted view of the recent past.
From the language of the “Committee to End Slavery” ballot initiative in California:
“What the vast majority of American citizens do not realize is that we are not free, we are all slaves to multiple levels of government. How do you know you are a slave? I want you to implant this phase indelibly in your mind. “You either own property or you are property.”[…]We don’t even own the most fundamental property of ours, our own bodies. The government dictates what we may or may not do with our bodies, what we may or may not put in them[…]Do you need any further proof that we are not free but rather are slaves of the government?”
Just don’t do drugs and you don’t have anything to worry about.
https://nypost.com/2017/11/10/bodycam-video-shows-lapd-cop-planting-drugs-on-black-suspect-lawyer/
That’s a good point, Evan, and one of the hundreds of second-order consequences of the WOD.
Thanks for being brave in the previous instance.
“And any attempt to do any good is struck down with the violent gavel of the God of Government.”
This sums up the reason I’ve become more Catholic over the last couple years. I’m neither a church goer nor bible thumper, but there is wisdom in the Ten Commandments as there is in the Bill Of Rights. But most churches and their adherents (with exceptions of course) aren’t trying to strike down the Ten Commandments whereas most government worshippers ARE trying to strike down the Bill of Rights.
Commandment #1 prevails: Government is a false God. I learned that lesson in my 20’s. (And to be fair, I think churches can be false Gods, too. They have their uses for good, but their importance should not be exaggerated lest you elevate them to the level of false God.)
It’s an interesting conundrum, Evan. Thanks for writing it up. Sorry about the beatdown you got. My uncle knocked out a dude who was beating the shit out of his girlfriend in the parking lot of a bar. And naturally got sued.
Like Q says, we are not remotely free. I don’t partake at all anymore, because I’m afraid of the consequences of getting popped. I just try to stay as far under the radar as I can.
Even though it’s legal here, I don’t take it in my car, unless I’m traveling in State, then it stays in the trunk. Never give them a reason to fuck with you.
/Weed
Thank you for the entertaining and thoughtful article – I enjoy your writing style.
The drug war has been a hot topic in our home as my youngest son is in college and experimenting. I’m supportive, but obviously frightened given the current climate (we are in Iowa – an “F” state for asset forfeiture, and the F doesn’t stand for Fourth Amendment). A lot of “what if” situations and their probabilities of occurrence have been discussed – e.g. someone needs medical help.
There’s weed in Iowa????
You must have misunderstood – there is no weed, and no, you can’t search my car 🙂
I don’t want to get into particulars as it is still in the courts and I’m paranoid, but I have an extended family member who’s personal wealth is almost entirely wrapped up in a business that is about to be forfeited to the state. The irony is the charge brought against him is almost entirely fictitious, they got him with what amounts to possession but, as the cops purportedly dedicated hundreds of man-hours in the investigation leading up to the arrest and made a big deal of it in the local news, they are going for broke to get him on a trafficking charge. I’m not entirely sure but I think he’s losing his business even if they can’t make the charges stick. It’s a fucking joke. The really sad part is my family members who can’t see past “Well he shouldn’t have been involved in DRUGZ!!!11!!
That’s terrible. Particularly the family’s response.
MY families response (some, not all of them). He has his problems and I’ll be the first to say he’s not the worlds greatest guy.
That being said I get really triggered when people act like “Well you broke the laws so I have no problem with whatever arbitrary, pernicious penalty gets handed down because you’re a bad person.” *ahem, cop brother, ahem* Unfortunately most people think this way regardless of whatever political stripe they identify with.
Unfortunately most people think this way regardless of whatever political stripe they identify with.
Amen. Although my retired cop BIL is very anti-drug war. He used to regularly get chastised for his dearth of arrests. He hated traffic and bullshit possession equally. He was a good cop (they do exist).
I’m sure they do and most cops I’ve interacted with have treated me decently. I’ve said it before but it really scares me how quickly my brother flipped the script once he became a cop, I never wanted that job for him but I really hope he is/stays ‘one of the good ones’
Well you broke the laws so I have no problem with whatever arbitrary, pernicious penalty gets handed down because you’re a bad person.” *ahem, cop brother, ahem*
I’m sure the double-think for crimes committed by cops is fully embedded.
‘Cops don’t commit crimes, they just get made examples of by criminal loving left judges’
/Why I can’t talk about LEO issues with my family
Speaking of criminal loving leftist judges, I wonder what’s going on with the people running the jihadi camp in NM with the dead kid buried out back.
What are you talking about, RC. OMG, look over there – ROOSHUNZ!!1!
I’d like to think the Intelligence community kindly asked the media to backburner the story as they are working on investigating a deeper lead and don’t want to tip off anyone.
Telling myself this is how I sleep at night.
How much coverage is the NXIVM case getting in everybody else’s neck of the woods? Much of what happened in the case is supposed to have happened up in the Albany area, so the local TV has been reporting the case constantly. The punitive bail they’ve been offered strikes me as giving the defendants a giant middle finger because they’re high-profile people and the wrong kind of people.
And it’s really striking compared to the NM compound case.
Good article. The same could be said of prostitution.
Bingo. Working girls live their life outside of the protection of the law. It is shameful.
Mrs. Warren’s profession.
That’s Senator Warren to you!
Wait, you were making an allusion to Shaw?
Never mind, still works.
My bad for failure to capitalize Profession!
I am generally of the opinion that prostitution is an honorable profession that comes with some unsavory risks.
Fauxcahontas, on the other hand…not so honorable and none of the risks.
Speaking of Fauxcahontas – someone here came up with this yesterday and it’s worth remembering.
For a Native American you’d think she’d be more skeptical of federal government power.
She is a woke Native American, brah.
The same is also a well-documented 2nd order effect of the War on Immigration as well.
This is true, and a big reason why I am a “high fence, wide gates” guy on immigration.
I was wondering if you were going to tell that tale, glad you did, in a way,
Sorry to go OT so soon but I clicked back over to the TOS article and refreshed. Hihn-sock found the article and is spam-shitposting this over and over….
“Who you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes”
Fascists are carrying the same shields as cops in riot gear
I don’t recall seeing anyone other than riot cops carrying riot shields. I recall folks on both sides carrying silly larping gear. MAGIC MISSILE! MAGIC MISSILE!
LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!
What we really need is common sense riot-shield control.
Hihn is a paid shill I bet
It’s funny, Hihn’s posts read like Trump’s tweets. It’s like they’re the same crazy old man on the Internet species or something.
I have a weird fixation with Hihn because I can’t decide if he’s the most mendacious person alive or just nucking futs. It’s either got to be one or the other but it can’t be both.
The guy is completely nuts. I have seen that same kind of crazy more than a few times. Surely you have too Bob. It is almost always old men but I have seen it in women once or twice.
I have, I’m just really curious as to whether he believes his own bullshit. Take the example above, is he so deranged that he honestly and truly believes that, or is it just that he’s a bald faced liar trying to rile up the Paulita Goobers? it’s hard to tell if his moments of lucidity are just that or if he’s dropping his persona momentarily.
I recall some obviously homemade riot shields (appeared to be made from plastic rain barrels, fwiw), but don’t remember who was using them -possibly both sides.
The rightists did have some guns, but the only one discharged was a pistol shot at an antifa punk brandishing a lit flamethrower.
I wasn’t there, prudently. This is my recollection of the news coverage.
Also – what, no HELICOPTERZ?
Some of the right-wingers had homemade shields and bike(?) helmets. Maybe one or two cop-style riot shields, but not the same ones used by the Charlottesville police.
The lefties had shields, clubs, chains, etc.
The homemade shields were impressive. Those helmets were MTB helmets, which are also used in other sports.
I have better equipment.
I’ve seen a photo of some impressive antifa shileds. Almost body length and curved. Looked like Romans.
Googled and couldn’t find them. Just this.
https://goo.gl/images/zXHMze
Funny but somebody’s putting a lot of effort into this.
Do those 110# girls really think they can stop a 230# guy with those?
What is Superman’s origin story on this parallel Earth?
I guess the lefties were the ones with the Confederate flags, then, because in this pic, its the guys with flags (and shields) standing “peacefully”, and the other guys with visible clubs.
Fascists are carrying the same shields
… to defend against the weapons that the other side doesn’t have?
Excellent article, which nicely illustrates the fact that the most dangerous thing about drugs is that the government will ruin your life if you get caught.
That sounds amazingly like what I told my niece a couple years ago.
A wonderful read, and speaks a great deal about the current drug laws. I know the comment above me says this, but the most dangerous part of using marijuana isn’t the smoking, it’s the police. I have friends who have been arrested on campus and taken out with handcuffs on just because of a possession charge. These people aren’t bad, and are honestly some of the chillest and most friendly people I have met. They have reasons to smoke but they are still so afraid as this could just ruin the rest of their life, very similar to myself. Maybe someday I wont have a reason to constantly be afraid of the police, but that day will only come once we end the war on drugs and end the police state we live in.
Good people don’t use Marijuana.
/Keebler Elf
That’s right, they send it to me for proper and safe disposal.
Comments like this give me a glimmer of hope for your generation.
I don’t do drugs. Just have no desire to. Not interested in starting either after almost 55 years. But I also have never felt obligated to deny others that want to do them, the option of doing so. All I would want to make sure is that I never have to foot the bill for people that end up in trouble because of legalized drugs, but considering I already pay for those that abuse alcohol, I am now resigned that even if we got rid of the stupid WOD, we would end with a greater, and likely even more destructive, government bureaucracy. Because we all know how much our top men like making sure they pick winners and losers and lord it over our choices.
I am now resigned that even if we got rid of the stupid WOD, we would end with a greater, and likely even more destructive, government bureaucracy.
I think getting rid of that large chunk of the law enforcement/prison industrial complex bureaucracy would be a net gain, even if the treatment bureaucracy (which we already have) grows.
+1 weekend retreat for OVI/DUI people.
See that is what I remain unconvinced off. Let’s not kid ourselves that they will not fuck it all up. We are talking about government here after all. I firmly believe that they would find a way to keep the enforcement crap around, only instead of sending people to jail for selling/using, they will create a whole new mega-system to deal with a new series of crimes mandating punishment based on some arbitrary system created by government. So while people will not be going to jail for selling or using (unless they don’t follow some arbitrary government rule, like today happens with alcohol consumption/sale) we will still have the need for a system to punish those that don’t comply with the rules. And IMO this replacement system will be just as onerous, if not even more so, and definitely far more costly, than even the fucked up WOD we have today.
Yeah, my gripe is that we are damned if we do, and just as damned if we don’t.
This is just what’s happening in CO. The po po are now busy busting people for BS use and growing charges. They didn’t miss a beat.
And in CA (predictably) the taxes are so high that it incentivizes people to still buy on the black market.
You’re right about CO. The law allows for an individual to grow up to six plants for their own use. But the list of conditions on that is insane and almost impossible to comply with. It’s just like everything else; if you choose to grow you’ll almost certainly be running afoul of some regulation or another and the cops will probably ignore it… until they don’t.
“Show me the man and I will find you the crime.”
And IMO this replacement system will be just as onerous, if not even more so, and definitely far more costly, than even the fucked up WOD we have today.
I think that the replacement bureaucracy for the War on Alcohol, odious as it is, is definitely preferable to what it replaced, myself. I would expect the same for the WOD.
What did it replace that you think was more onerous when it comes to alcohol? I still remember some of my friends telling me how when they got pulled over driving drunk, the cop drove them home and had their parents yell at them. Three times in a year. Today you lose your license, have to pay a ton of money to the state, and eventually might even lose your livelihood.
still remember some of my friends telling me how when they got pulled over driving drunk, the cop drove them home and had their parents yell at them. Three times in a year. Today you lose your license, have to pay a ton of money to the state, and eventually might even lose your livelihood.
Good. Fuck drunk drivers. If they’re driving poorly enough to get pulled over driving drunk, I hope the cops ruin their life. SLDs: Checkpoints and charges for refusing the breathalyzer are obviously shitty.
I dont use dope. I have never had any use for it, even in high school when it seemed like everyone else was experimenting I wasn’t interested. I smoked pot once in 1980 or ’81. I didn’t like it.
Over the years I have enjoyed a certain advantage over most others because of that. I have seen exactly what Evan is talking about numerous times: people afraid to interact with the police over unrelated things because of fear of being arrested for drugs. Vice laws put a lot of people outside the protection of the law leaving their persons and property vulnerable.
The war on drugs really is evil.
I should add that I have no concern whatsoever about others who do use drugs. Not my business. You just cant do it at my house or grow on my property.
Or stash it there either. I don’t have any intention to end up on the wrong end of the arbitrary and corrupt long arm of the law.
How bout your lawn ?
His hose is ready.
I see Suthen as more the “shotgun loaded with rock salt” type.
Ready for this?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/ff/70/e7ff7002effd939f34ec3c4a0ad2cc47.jpg
I just remembered that years ago the Dallas police noticed a massive outdoor grow operation right behind one of their station houses. As I recall, it was nearly mature, too.
Listening to John Prine today. Thought I’d provide some excellent music for this excellent post.
Excellent choice.
Wow, man, that’s some serious shit. Kudos to you for taking one hell of a beating to do the right thing. And also, you did the right thing the second time around, too, for the reasons you mention. When it comes down to it, there’s every chance that you wind up in a foreign prison for a long time just so you can buy someone else a brief reprieve from whatever is going to happen to her the moment the police come to throw you into a deep, dark hole. For what it’s worth, you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.
Also, I’ll treat you to two sage pieces of advice from Papa Naptown, who was a deputy sheriff and a hellraiser prone to intervening prior to his time with the badge.
First, do what you want but don’t get caught, especially because you were stupid. I once stuck around with a girl I was trying to woo at a party when I knew the cops had been called. My dad showed up to take me home. His first question was, “Why didn’t you run?” He grounded me not for underage drinking at a house party but for sitting around like an idiot to impress some girl instead of leaving when I knew the cops were on the way.
Second, do not–DO NOT–intervene in a domestic situation; if you’re concerned, call the police, preferably anonymously. True Romance was just a movie. The fact is, you have no idea what led to that situation, and the odds are overwhelming that if you butt in you’ll attract the ire of all parties involved. Best case scenario, you roll in like Captain America and wreck some girl’s abusive boyfriend; if she doesn’t start screaming and beating you then, she’s probably going to be back with him by the end of the week. Worst case scenario, the boyfriend beats your ass and girl doesn’t give it another thought.
While I lack Papa N’s experience, we are always taught in EMS class to never enter a DV situation unless the cops go in first.
Second, do not–DO NOT–intervene in a domestic situation;
Absolutely correct. And I have seen, in the hospital parking lot, exactly what you describe – when our security intervened to stop a dirtbag from slapping his girlfriend around (at least he waited until she put the newborn baby in the back of the car), she turned on our people.
Bottom line: if a woman wants out of an abusive relationship, she can get out any time. If she’s in an abusive relationship, its because in some way she wants to be. Sure, the first punch may be a surprise (although rarely), but once that line is crossed, it stays crossed.
We used to call that the “Concerned Gigolo” strategy–single dudes white-knighting chicks who just got in an argument with their boyfriends–and beating up the abusive boyfriend is like the wet dream of the Concerned Gigolo because it not only feeds his ego but it plays into this fantasy that unattainable women will be drawn to him because he’s so caring or whatever.
And to kind of riff of your point, you don’t want the kind of relationship you would get by “saving” someone from an abusive relationship. Like you say, after punch #1, there’s a reason they’re sticking around. Abuse doesn’t usually go from 0-60 overnight, it’s usually a slow build over time, and especially in this day and age if a woman walks into a hospital with a black eye she won’t get much past “My boyfriend.,,” before homeboy’s in the paddy wagon. So you’ve got to wonder what’s going on, and is it worth becoming a part of it. And the answer is pretty much always, “no”.
Intervening in a girl being gang raped =/= intervening between some kind of domestic spat. He made the right call on both counts. DV situations are a powder keg and you do NOT want to insert yourself into that kind of shitshow. But if a girl is being attacked and/or raped that’s a different story, particularly if you carry (I recognize Evan is not in firearm friendly places, but in much of the US drawing on someone trying to rape a woman is perfectly legal, and always justifiable).
Back when I lived in Florida, my next door neighbor, a cute Asian girl about 90 pounds soaking wet, got the shit kicked out of her by her boyfriend about 2-3 times a week. The first time, I made an anonymous call to the cops. Every time after that I just turned up the stereo. I figure after the first time she had her chance to leave the relationship and since that didn’t happen, the only conclusion I could draw was that she wanted to get her ass kicked.
Oh, for sure. I hope I didn’t come across as critical about the first situation, because I agree he absolutely did the right thing there. In a situation like that, if you’re able to do anything and brave enough to do it–and not everyone is, no slight against them–you’ve got to. That’s a totally different scenario than trying to squash couple drama in an unhealthy relationship.
I don’t the drugs but I’ll have a few drinks.
Once I’ve had a few, I get real hestitant about doing stuff. Obviously the state could make my life miserable for driving. But I also would have hesitated trying to break up a domestic dispute in Vietnam while half in the bag.
Also, from in my experience in South East Asia, such events don’t turn out as we would expect in the States. Whereas, here a bar parking lot fight might just involve some pushing and fisticuffs, I’ve found S.E. Asian dudes go from 0 to 60 in like 1.5 seconds and immediately go to knifes and broken bottles. Furthermore, it’s immediately you vs. every other native within 500 feet.
HM, only place I know it plays out like you say is in what we would turn the bad neighborhoods (gangs) in the US, but you are right – and I am speaking from my experience so I could be wrong – that it is the default mode of responding in most other places on this planet. not just S.E Asia (I have seen it even in Europe).
Yeah, there are plenty of neighborhoods here too that I wouldn’t ever start shit, even if I were inclined to do so.
Just reading these stories infuriates me. The WoD is the single most immoral domestic policy of the government (foreign policy is a different story) and it burns me up how many people’s lives are destroyed because of their exercise in self-ownership.
I have no problem with private employers drug testing; you have no right to employment and if an employer doesn’t want to hire someone who smokes pot, that’s their prerogative. Legal doesn’t mean free-for-all universal tolerance. The fact that people get locked in a cage for using/selling a fucking plant though is beyond belief; and with the approval of most Americans! SMH.
Also, Evan must have brass balls using drugs in SE Asia. They are the hardest of the most hardcore drug warriors that I know of.
I used to do drugs. I still do but I used to too
/Mitch Hedberg
He doesn’t any more.
I was at the National Homebrew Conference in Portland last June. On Friday night, I hung out with Creosote Achilles at Cascade Brewing and got somewhat inebriated. From there, it was back to the NHC for clubnight, where I finished the job of getting shitfaced. Several of my brewing buddies were sitting around a table. One of them slid something across the table and sad “enjoy”. I picked up the packet and saw “Cannabis”. So I slid it back and said “no thanks”. A young guy with dreadlocks sitting next to me asked if I had a problem with cannabis. I said no. But I own guns and plan to buy more guns. And the feds will throw me in prison for a decade for lying on the background check. So I’ll just have to wait until the Feds come to their senses.
So I’ll just have to wait until the Feds come to their senses.
More like Waiting for Godot.
I first read that as the National Hebrew Conference.
#metoo
All the kosher wine you can handle for 3 days.
No shirt, no shoes, no foreskin, no problem!
I thought it was going to lead to Kinnath and CA partaking in some kink together.
@kbolino (from the dead links thread)
I have a theory about Romney. I don’t really think he is mealy in his business life. The way I see it is this: Men in my church are brought up with the expectation that they will conduct themselves with stoic gentility. There is no room for an alpha male. Go passive-aggressive or go home. However, there are men whose alpha can’t be contained very well and they seem to end up in high-stakes litigation and/or high-stakes business. They also play sports like savages. Socially acceptable rampant aggression.
I believe that Romney was subsuming his business acumen under this cloak of stoic gentility for whatever reason (maybe not embarrassing the church? idk) and it did not suit him. He didn’t get where he is in business without a backbone, and deliberately suppressing it was uncomfortable for him and so it was uncomfortable for everyone else. Apologizing for the 47% remark was just like that.
Where I lost complete faith in him was that pic of him shaking hands with Trump with a look of “I am eating shit, I know it, I shouldn’t be, but here I am, how did I get here, God get me out of this.” He got bent over the table and plowed and he knew it. So. In my eyes, his church training won.
The greatest ambition of most Republicans is to give a very eloquent concession speech.
I think they want to be known for their accomplishments, but they let their the wrong people define what an accomplishment is. So, passing McCain-Feingold or Medicare Part D is an accomplishment, and so is starting or ending a war, but cutting off the media-government “leak” spigot, or curtailing bureaucrats’ self-given powers, or standing athwart the lynch mob and saying “no” is not. They get wrapped up in the notion of “norms” while they are in power only to have the rug pulled out from under their feet when they aren’t. In the end, many would rather not hold power, for the time being, if it means not getting those accomplishments.
More succintly, they want an attaboy from the devil and would rather bow out if they can’t get it.
+elebentybillion
You are on fire, sir.
And then they get those sweet sweet “New Found Respect” remarks from journos
Headline from the future: “New Found Respect for Former President Trump After President Beef Supreme Disembowels Local Reporter in Front of Supporters at Rally”
“Followed by Supreme and his cabinet running a train on an eager 52 year-old grandmother of 5.”
“Make America GILF Again!”
This post gives me the feeling that Mojeaux has a stash of erotica she’s penned on Mitt’s rampantly aggressive alpha self coming out.
Blurgh.
You may be right, and I can respect that to some extent. I have less against Romney than McCain. However, I do think he should have owned his comments. Yes, they were said in private, but so what? Everybody knows he meant it. A capable speechwriter could have taken the comment and allowed him to pivot it. “Yes, 47% of Americans pay no Federal income tax. This is because of a lack of opportunities as a result of my opponents’ policies. I want every American to be able to participate in the economy and society to the fullest extent. And this is how I plan to do it…” He may still have lost, but he would have gone down fighting.
Note: I do not claim to be a good speechwriter and my hypothetical speechifying was not meant to indicate I have any actual talent at it.
47% of Americans pay no Federal income tax
I think we have a clue why Trump’s tax cuts don’t poll better.
Well that and MUH TAKZ KUTZ 4 THA RICH.
Forget about the fact that you got hired for that new awesome job because your employer can now afford to do so.
It’s certainly a big part of the disconnect between the polls and actual votes in the rust belt.
Perhaps. Getting more people working will get more people paying taxes, though*.
* = Not accounting for EITC
I made 17k and had to.pay 710 on federal and 120 state.
I fucking FUCKING hate the canard that the poor don’t pay taxes
17k and you owed income tax when you filed your return!? How the shit did that happen?
I absolutely agree with you and your speech is good spin.
There is no room for an alpha male.
I think people are confused about alpha males and beta males.
Alphas are often not aggressive, pushy, loud, etc. They are the alpha, and if they are secure in that status (as a true alpha should be) they don’t need any of that shit, and actually project their status by being more in the serene confidence mode than the tuff gai mode.
Betas are the aggressive, pushy, loud ones, because they are jostling with the other betas and trying to move up to alpha status. The macho posturing, etc. is typically a sign of a beta male.
Calling a soy boy a beta male is getting the terminology wrong. They are gammas or epsilons – not even in the game, really, and trying to get by being as inoffensive as possible to the betas and the alphas.
I take your point. However, loud/aggressive is not what I mean, and I certainly don’t mean like Trump. I’m struggling to describe the mien of guys like this, where they’re soft and gentle at church, uncomfortable with it, clumsy about it, then go roaring through a courtroom and win gazillion-dollar lawsuits.
Rather than Alphas, maybe Type-A personalities?
I suspect that the dichotomy is because of Section 121. In home life and church life we live within these strictures, but when you get into a professional environment you aren’t exercising dominion — or at least not via the priesthood.
YES! YES that’s exactly what I mean. I knew there was a word for it, and I was hoping you’d chime in.
Glad to help.
Pretty much “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”.
Yes. With a prescription for how to avoid corruption and use the power wisely.
Soy boys try to get female affection by adopting feminine traits and white knighting which makes them, in manosphere terminology, gamma.
Former CDC Director Frieden arrested on sex charges. If the allegation below is all that happened, nonsense, but my perv-radar has always been high on this one.
A 55-year-old woman filed a complaint in July of this year accusing Dr. Frieden of grabbing her buttocks in his Brooklyn Heights apartment in October 2017, the spokeswoman added.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cdc-head-thomas-frieden-arrested-on-sex-crime-charges-in-new-york-1535131517?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1
Frieden’s license plate:
You have exposed yourself, HM – your real name is Dr. Cosmo Kramer.
Gitty-up!
Jerry: Whose license plate could it be?
Kramer: Wilt Chamberlain?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2X_XNdmWws
Grabbing ass =/= sexual abuse. It’s classless yes, but abuse it is not.
I don’t agree. I think it is in one of those gray areas, though. Do it once, get told never to do it again, and comply? Not abuse. Do it once, get told to stop or ignore signs that it’s unwelcome, and continue to do it? Abuse. It’s hard to judge, though. And there’s always the flip side of it, where the person whose butt is being grabbed in the workplace by a superior may feel that objecting to it will cost them a promotion, or worse. I think categorically ruling it out in the workplace is acceptable, but the result should be disciplinary action up to and, if warranted, including termination. However, a man who grabs adult women’s buttocks is not exactly committing a “special crime”.
It’s crude, unprofessional, and can be abusive. I’d love to go around grabbing ass all day at work or something, but how emotionally stunted are people where they would find that to be appropriate in an office. The only asses that it is appropriate to slap are a woman that you are dating or married to and your friends when they make a great play during some sporting event.
Since playing sports as a kid, I can personally attest to assaulting many of my teammates during games. #metoo
GAY
You haven’t lived until you’ve slapped another man’s ass in celebration after he scores
Damn, that sounded really gay
Bisexual, at a minimum.
“That sounded really gay”
There is a good reason for that.
I’d love to go around pinching and/or twisting nipples.
“a man who grabs adult women’s buttocks is not exactly committing a “special crime””
This is what I’m getting at. Invading personal space and/or touching someone when they’ve asked you not to is wrong and would likely be considered assault by legal definition. When I hear “sexual abuse”, however, I think forced penetration, sexual blackmail, pinning someone down to grope and kiss them etc. Just like watering down the definition of “rape” does actual rape victims no favors, watering down “sexual abuse” serves no one except lawyers and those who want to make false reports.
Exactly. It’s battery at most.
And let’s not forget that this was at the guy’s house. If you know Weinstein’s reputation and you go to his house anyway, you kinda know what is likely to happen. If they guy stopped the person from leaving, then it’s more than battery.
It’s assault.
The pun wasn’t intended butt there it is.
damit, another one!
Autopsy: Devils Lake man killed in officer-involved shooting was shot in the back of the head
There -at least- two infuriating things about this story:
Add one more infuriating thing:
“Autopsy: Devils Lake man killed
inby officer-involved shootingwas shot in the back of the head”Fuck me, but I hate the mealy-mouthed obfuscation of “officer-involved shooting”.
It’s sad that even the passive voice seems more direct.
But they were both passive voice.
Fine. Passive voice with agent > Passive voice without agent.
I just did the minimal editing to get the abomination of “officer-involved” out.
Autopsy: Officer killed Devils Lake man by shooting him in the back of the head
You’re not the only one.
I’m dying of curiosity about how a law that is supposed to be about victim’s rights can be used to prevent the names of police suspects from being released.
The cop is a victim and “fears for his life”?
Marsy’s law is a giant clusterfuck. Many prominent voices warned against this when it was on the ballot, but the mu feelz! advertising by that son of a bitch won the day. Virtually every police, prosecutor and defense attorney group in the state came out against it.
So he was executed.
Or the officer let his finger touch the trigger while using the gun as a club. /still murder
For petty theft…and not obeying two guys in street clothes chasing him.
Back on-topic:
My nephew died of an overdose.* He probably could have been saved if the scumbag that he was with had called emergency services. But said scumbag had an arrest record and “didn’t want to get involved.” Although I blame my nephew for killing himself, the WOD sure made it a lot easier to do so.
*He apparently was not a hard core user, just part time and once too many. No one in the family was aware or else we would have slapped some sense into him.
… Hobbit
Sorry to hear that.
Wisconsin has the Good Samaritan drug overdose laws. This probably helps a little but even if you don’t get prosecuted for this incident you will still get put on the law enforcement radar.
The drug warriors I most feel like injuring are those that rail against Naloxone and other anti-OD drugs. How broken is your moral compass if you think that someone dying is preferable to them living and (possibly) going into rehab/jail.
But that will just encourage more drug use if people think they can do so more safely!
Obviously I agree…
One of my best friends from high school died of a heroin overdose in the mid-90s. This was a few years after he and I parted ways and he began running with a bunch of junkies. He was with them when he OD’ed, and his friends all took off instead of calling for help likely because they feared being arrested for possession. It pisses me off to no end that none of them thought to just dial 911 and leave the phone off the hook before splitting, but everyone knows that the mind of the typical junkie doesn’t work rationally.
On topic: I don’t drink or smoke, much less do drugs, but I am told cigarettes and booze are good prepper items, and I will most certainly be stocking up on these items. I would also grow pot if I had a green thumb and knew how to process it and Mr. Mojeaux would let me but he wouldn’t. If it’s taxed too heavily, well, that’s what black markets are for.
They’d come in handy as currency in a SHTF scenario even if you don’t use.
Trading as currency is my purpose, yes.
You got to buy the right pack of cigarettes. Apocalypse or not, no one is going to want a pack of Kent.
I was thinking Marlboro reds, but I only figured that from my time working graves in a convenience store my last year of college.
Alcohol also has use for sterilization purposes beyond trading.
Pot is apparently is not a good trade items for a SHTF scenario. Guy in Sarajevo said that it was one of the things that was cheap and plentiful during the war. Not high quality but it is a weed.
Then again I’ve always taken his stories with a grain of salt.
“a grain of salt”
…..which they didn’t have during the war
I’ve read chewing tobacco also has healing properties.
Cigarettes don’t keep all that long. I’d go with booze, ammo, and fish antibiotics (some of them are the same as what people use).
Mrs. Dean was cleaning out our pantry, and commented that we generally have enough food in the house to go for a couple months. I told her my disaster planning included the food in our neighbor’s pantries also.
If you were a smoker and craving a cigarette, would it matter how stale it was? I don’t know.
OTOH, nobody I know smokes, so…
Always uphold the narrative, or else these people will turn on you in planck time:
Phillips: Jim Brown, once a hero, maybe never should have been one
Some choice cuts from the piece:
False consciousness?
I’d love for 1963 Jim Brown to travel forward in time just beat the fuck out of this guy for calling him a puppet. Good news is I’m pretty sure 2018 Jim Brown could do it, too.
Seriously, what a disgraceful comment.
You and your sportswriter colleagues didn’t have a word to say about Jim Brown’s dark side when he supported your causes. The thought of looking into his past and looking at the entire man never once occurred to you before he went to Trump Tower. That’s not him fooling you, that’s you being willfully blind.
Now is Brown’s big moment: he can either become desperate for approval from his former fellow travelers, apologize and walk back his statements, or he can realize that these people were never on his side to begin with and only saw him as a tool. I hope it’s the latter with a big “fuck off slaver” for good measure.
To be fair, didn’t Brown beat the shit out of his girlfriends?
Right. But the columnist, and most of his colleagues, didn’t care about that until 2016. And he’s claiming Brown has been pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes when in fact they reverently trotted him out as a hero-statesman for decades.
I saw that article and couldn’t help thinking they were basically calling Brown an “Uncle Tom.”
https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1032469836884922368
He’s not wrong.
“It’s weird to live in a society in which launching an illegal $2 trillion war based on lies that kills 100s of thousands of people is seen as totally fine & not even an impediment to a high-profile pundit career, but possibly paying $100K hush money to a porn star is impeachable.”
Democrats are complaining about the wrong issues. Which isn’t surprising, considering that neocons are their biggest stars right now.
Both parties love them some war, it’s just who it’s against and how it’s waged.
It’s not the adultery or the payoff they have a problem with (they all do that too), it’s that Trump isn’t part of the in-crowd and what’s worse, he’s boorish. He’s open about his sexual dalliances and he had the ill-taste to fuck a slutty porn star instead of an Ivy-league educated kleptocrat.
Yeah, true.
I don’t agree with his next comment:
“Both seem like serious high crimes (if true)…but the discrepancy in outrage seems to say something really profound about our society.”
Paying hush money (when no crime was committed) is a high crime?
Yeah, agreed. I’ll take the spirit of the sentiment, I guess
My understanding is that “high crimes and misdemeanors” was intended to refer to crimes which are an abuse of office or of government power. Example: mishandling classified information by setting up a private email server would be a high crime.
Are we talking about George W. Bush or Barack Obama? Are we at the 100s of thousands mark with the Syrian civil war and ancillary conflicts yet?
At any rate, that just reminds me of the old bumperstickers comparing the Clinton blowjob to the Iraq war. It’s cute, but it obviously grossly oversimplifies. Also, the Trump thing isn’t about paying off hookers, that’s just the excuse. Just like the Clinton thing wasn’t really about the hummer. Those are just means to an end.
One of the morning shows today had a segment about marijuana being grown in the forest of National Parks. I can’t remember what state they were in, but they said this happens even though marijuana is legal. The focus was on how it was hurting the ecosystem (use of defoliants/chemicals and leaving trash). No mention of the taxes/bureaucracy that still make the black market worthwhile in a “legal” environment. Also no mention of the Tragedy of the Commons situation with the National Park.
Evan, thanks for writing this up. You made the correct decision in the domestic dispute. And you made the correct decision when you intervened when the woman was being raped. Sorry to hear you got beat for it.