This article is inspired by the many mentions on this site of Star Wars, Marvel, Disney and how their SJW leanings may be hurting their business. I have a theory that centers on trademark and copyright law about how in the cases of Marvel many of these crazy SJW stunts are actually evidence of Disney playing the long game and in the case of other properties such as Star Wars and The Muppets show that the company is largely being propelled by a few divisions while the rest coasts or bumbles around aimlessly.
I will start with a basic and not at all legally sound explanation of trademarks and copyrights. Trademarks are basically legal claims towards branding, brand names and mascots can be trademarked in perpetuity as long as they remain active. This can be confusing because characters can have works that exist in the public domain such as certain books or films but still be trademarked characters. This is possible because the copyright of the work which features that character can expire without the characters trademark expiring allowing that particular book or film to be reproduced for free while other uses of that character would still be protected by trademark or copyright.
Copyright is the other half of the equation and the concept is pretty clear from the term, it is the right to copy something. Copyright protects specific works rather than brands the way trademarks do. The original post colonial copyright in the United States was 14 years with the option to renew for another 14 years; by the early 20th century this had expanded to 28 years with an option for a renewal of another 28 years. In 1976, this was expanded to 75 years for corporate owned works or the life of the author plus 50 years, and in 1998–with a major push from Disney–it was expanded to 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication for corporate works or the life of the author plus 70 years.
The impact copyright can have on media franchises can get very complicated. A great example of this is the Wizard of Oz franchise. Wizard of Oz started out as a media franchise in the early 20th century with books, plays and silent films but it is the 1939 film that has become the definitive version in the minds of the general public. The original wave of books, plays and silent films are all in the public domain which means free of copyright but the 1939 film is still under copyright.
There are distinct elements to the 1939 film such as songs, plot points and design elements such as the ruby slippers that are not public domain. The shoes were originally silver but were changed to red to showcase the then still novel format of technicolor film. The books status as public domain allows anyone to create a sequel or new interpretation of Wizard of Oz but the copyright protecting the distinctive elements of the definitive version along with the lack of a young Judy Garlands has prevented any of these from becoming seen as legitimate entries of the franchise, including two attempts by Disney. The extension of copyrights benefits almost every media company but I would argue that this is a major element of Disney’s business strategy and is used to add value to their merchandising and theme park divisions. The affect of this is most notable in the Disney Princess franchise which earns Disney millions from trademarked versions of public domain characters. It is also used recently in their live action film division through the remakes of their animated films.
The deeper use of the ins and outs of copyright laws hasn’t really expanded to companies they have purchased, such as Pixar and Lucasfilms which is responsible for Star Wars and allegedly more Indiana Jones. The exception to that I would say is Marvel. I think the difference is because of the age of Marvel places much more of the companies value closer to entering public domain. Marvel started in the late ’30s with characters such as Captain America, Sub-Mariner and other members of The All Winners Squad with the majority of Marvels most famous characters from the ’60s or ’70s. Marvel began their version of using the ruby slipper like leverage before they were bought by Disney and it has accelerated since then. I think that a major reason Marvel even still publishes comics is to strengthen their copyrights covering more and more situations making it harder and harder to write a story using their characters without infringing on a copyright. Evidence of this is how their publishing strategy changed after the success of the X-men and Spider-man films.
Marvel’s top property for decades was X-men to the point where often any book with an X on it would sell better than most of The Avengers solo books. Marvel began to shift the focus of their comics away from the X-men with events such as House of M removing power from many mutants and towards the Avengers adding Spider-man and Wolverine to the line up. This was done without any certainty that the sales of the comics would be maintained. Before this the Avengers were a team of former A-listers who had been surpassed in popularity by Spiderman and the X-men who previously were too valuable to be in The Avengers. This shift took place because the film rights to many of their characters were no longer owned by Marvel, because they were sold off during a bankruptcy. The Avengers film rights were the ones that didn’t sell and adding their star characters to the franchise helped move the focus to the avengers.
Another example is the comics recent focus on The Inhumans. Marvel intended to replace the mutants with the inhumans because of their loss of the film rights. They did things like making some of the recently depowered mutants inhumans, retconning characters who were assumed-but-not-certain-mutants as mutants, and even in a few cases retconning characters who had previously been retconned to be mutants to cash in on the xmen’s popularity. The Inhumans before this were supporting characters in Fantastic Four who had never sustained an ongoing series more than a couple years. They also had major event series around this time which connected them with all the other ongoing comics. Marvel’s emphasis was no longer on selling comics but using the comics to lay down more copyright, and retrain and test what people think of the characters to prep for future movies and tv shows. They do something similar in the cartoons which feature upcoming characters such as Nova and Amadeus Cho.
I also believe that much of their SJW recasting of their characters is Marvel woke-proofing their franchises. Peter Parker’s adventures will eventually become public domain even if eventually is a long time from now (especially if it counts as 70 years after Stan Lee’s death) but Marvel can keep the trademark of Spider-Man in perpetuity and they just have to change who the public thinks of as Spider-man. They have tried this with several characters but the only major character they have made significant progress with is Spider-man and the upcoming animated film starring Miles Morales (a half black half Hispanic alternate universe character) Into the Spiderverse will reinforce this.
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Great article! Wow so deep, insightful.
You wrote ruby slippers but all I read was chubby strippers.
I want to have intercourse with all three pictures of women you posted.
Number one stole my heart. Well, maybe not my heart as such, but I’m certainly willing to pause for conversation.
I’m appreciate the thicc, as always.
It doesn’t sound like marvel is doing THAT good a job if miles morales is their only success.
There’s already rumors that Ironheart will be introduced after Avengers 4, which could even make sense in the MCU. Then there’s the concept of everything being based on the original Captain America super-serum which have been introduced.
An important concept in trademarks is the likelihood of confusion. It makes the trademark a much more limited protection than copyright. On the other hand, trademarks apply to much more things than copyrights do.
Personally, I think the copyright length is ridiculous. 20 years with a 20 year extension is more than enough.
I’d be happy with the old 28 & 28. But as was then, renewal requires positive action and failing to do so means the work goes into the public domain after the initial 28 year period.
That’s essentially how the patent fees work, except at 3.5, 7.5, and 11.5 years (Link)
You did a great job nerdsplaining where the origins of the Marvel cinematic universe. Why these crappy characters that I didn’t give a damn about as a kid? Because Marvel fucked up so badly at one point that they lost the rights to the good ones.
But I’m not sure I buy this. Even if it were the case, you could make Spiderman be any old other white guy. You could have Thor be any other man.
-1 Ben Reilly
The Scarlet Spider is sad now.
And Thor’s been several people already.
I always like to point out every time there is some freak out about some gender/race change about some character. Ben Reilly was literally a clone of Peter Parker, and the fans rejected that story line. A straight wide nerd replacing a straight wide nerd and nobody was buying it. The Clone Saga is probably at the top of the list of how not to write comics.
OTOH, Miles Morales is the new alternate reality version of Spider-Man, and none of the comics nerds raise an eyebrow, because Miles Morales been around for a decade, and it wasn’t shoved down anybody’s throats, so he’s a decent replacement Spiderman.
I have heard of the Miles Morales before, but went to the Wikipedia page.
I have to know – is he more Obama or Donald Glover? It makes a big difference.
It’d be cooler if he was based on Danny Glover.
Agreed Danny Glover would make a great superhero. I haven’t read any books staring him, but my impression is more community era Donald Glover, I don’t really get the obama similarities I think the writer just said that to seem significant, deep and relevant.
Donald Glover back in the day was arguing that he would love to play Spiderman.
Anyways for what it is worth in terms of sales, Back in 2000 Marvel had the bright idea of reimagining their flagship characters, without all that pesky canon, and calling them the Ultimate version. Then after a few years they gave up on it, and accepted that the only re-imaging that actually worked was African-American Spiderman, so they had to merge those universes together when the only book that sold was Ultimate Spider-man.
Crappy characters? I’ll give you Hawkeye and Antman, but Thor, Ironman, and the Hulk? they’re classics. Granted I was a Frank Miller, Mazzucchelli, Sienkiewicz fanboy but the Avengers were hardly second tier material.
The Hulk is in an interesting position. The reason there hasn’t been any solo Hulk films is that Universal still has distribution rights to the films (even the Ed Norton Hulk movie was distributed by them).
All the Hulk movies sucked.
The Bana one was… not good. I didn’t mind the Norton one, but I’ve never been the biggest Hulk fan to begin with. And you could argue that Thor: Ragnarok was a Hulk film.
Ragnarok.
That was a thoroughly meh movie with a couple laughs.
Was the Norton one the mutant poodle one or the metaphysical space daddy fight one or were those both the same one, I have no idea anymore. Everything (not just superhero movies, but everything) blends into one big smoothie of vague recollections after three or four years.
Both of those were the Bana one. The Norton one had the fight against Abomination (Tim Roth getting kicked into a tree by the Hulk is a bonus), Liv Tyler, and set up the Leader.
I think the problem is that there is a public perception of The Hulk, vs the comic book version of The Hulk. 99% of people think that The Hulk is limited to saying “HULK SMASH!”, followed by obviously smashing things. The Hulk is actually a somewhat intelligent character with obvious anger management issues.
I thought the Norton one was technically part of the “MCU”, even though they recast Banner for The Avengers?
Yes, the Norton Hulk is MCU canon, but the way the contract is written Marvel can use the Hulk in ensemble movies without Universal, but a solo Hulk movie must be distrusted by Universal.
I watched the whole season of The Inhumans.
?
It was not good.
I didn’t even know it existed.
You didn’t miss much. But it failed to resolve the eternal question if Lockjaw is a superpowered dog, or somebody that got the fuzzy end of the lollipop when it came to getting superpowers.
Yay for Thicc!, Now i’l read the article, also,
Seventh!
I noticed the article but I am still stuck on the hot Disney princesses. ///GoodThingIamAlreadyInMyBunk
Cover photo by Q.
I’ll be the first to go off topic: Manafort/Cohen Cases Have Nothing To Do With Russian Collusion
I don’t know who Ben Swann is, but he comes across as someone who would be the type of person Putin would pick as a propagandist/spy.
Putin stooge, just like Rand Paul, no doubt.
He didn’t always look like that. He got a little notoriety and (I presume) money. Then he decided he wanted to look like Ryan Seacrest for some reason.
Of course it doesn’t. There’s only one thing to take away from this. Democrats are very worried that they will not win the midterms. And they are probably right. What do the polls even mean now? Anyone who now admits in public to voting for Trump or just being right wing are harassed on the internet, at restaurants, and even at their workplaces or at home. If a pollster called me, I have to admit that I would just hang up on them even though I really want to say things they will not like. I’d just hang up.
Bullshit, where are you? the DC corridor/area/whatever they call it. Around here MAGA hats and Trump stickers are badges of honor If a pollster called my father or any one of his Trumpster buddies they wouldn’t hesitate to tell them exactly what they think. No ones getting chased out of restaurants in north central Ohio for supporting Trump.
“Bullshit, where are you? the DC corridor/area/whatever they call it.”
Yes.
And haven’t people gotten attacked for wearing Trump hats in TX? Or did I just dream that. I have to assume that all pollsters are leftists as they completely control the media. I think you are really underestimating things if you think people are not voicing their opinions so much now. I can tell you for sure that here, if I wore a Trump hat, I’d be attacked and if I had any type of right wing sticker on my car and parked it in public, it would be trashed. 100% guaranteed.
Outside of the three C’s in Ohio (Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati), Ohio is pretty solidly Republican. Hell, Michael Symon stood against a minimum wage hike in Cleveland and he’s still loved in the city.
I’m from Ohio. Cincy.
Hyperion, my apologizes if I offended you. There’s only a couple of Glibs that I know off the top of my head are Ohioians, and I didn’t have you on the list.
You know who else is from Ohio?
Adolf “Three-Way” Schicklgruber?
“You know who else is from Ohio?”
Jerry Springer? OK, he’s not from Ohio, but he could be our reality TV president instead of Trump. Just think about that, it’s sobering.
Moses Cleveland was the answer we were looking for…..
Just Say’n, I’m disappoint. The founder’s name was Moses Cleaveland.. Cleveland is just because a newspaper couldn’t fit Cleaveland on their Masthead (which is where Masthead brewing got there name).
Maxwell Q. Klinger?
Yes. But Michael Symon wrote a book on cooking meat.
Then he married a vegan, and they sell the impossible burger at his B-Spots. Previously, the only vegetarian item on the menu was called the Why? (which was a grilled portobello with an optional free side of bacon). Everything fried is done in lard, and if you sit at the bar, you get a free order of pork cracklins.
That almost makes me want to visit Ohio. Almost.
Spudalicious, Symon also has partnered with Platform brewing for exclusive beers in his restaurants, and I’ll make the same offer to you as Hyperion, first pint is on me.
Hey, Neph. My wife actually has cousins in Ohio. In all honesty, a trip to Ohio would be fine me. And if I can swing it, I will happily let you buy me a beer, and I will happily reciprocate. 🙂
“Hyperion, my apologizes if I offended you.”
Not at all. Not sure why you’re thinking that, but if I came off like that, it was totally unintentional. We’re good, bro.
I’m not always good at reading people, let alone text on a screen. I figured there was a 10-15% chance you were actually upset, and an apology costs me little. If we ever meet, first round is on me.
“If we ever meet, first round is on me.”
I got the next two.
City of Dayton is pretty Democratic. Suburbs are fairly Republican though.
The thing I remember most about Dayton is that is where I first saw RUSH. The acoustics in that stadium were so bad.
You probably saw Rush in Hara Arena, which to make you feel old is closed. I think they tore it down but am not sure.
Ed fROMOHIO https://youtu.be/vA9pt_nbHgE
I was born in Cleveland, and raised in east central Indiana.
I have alot of family spread through Louisville, Indy, Cincy, Akron and Cleveland. I own rental properties in Cincy and Cleveland. I’m a California dude, with Ohio in my heart. Go Bucks!
I may be underestimating how blue it is in your neck of the woods but I’d say you’re equally guilty of underestimating the redness in mine, which I thought was a big pillar of the Trump phenomenon, he spoke to us forgotten rubes after all. And again with the ‘complete control of the media’, good god man how long are you people gonna beat that drum, there is no “The Media” anymore if there ever was one. There are hundreds of ‘Media’ now and have been for years find a new boogie man, the deep state or lizard people or sommat.
Oi, The Hyperbole, I’ll be traveling through your neck of the woods Sunday if you’re interested in meeting up for a pint, you’ve got my e-mail address. Friday and Saturday I’ll be down in Canal Winchester for BrewDog’s Annual General Mayhem.
Do you know what the ratings for network news is? The cable networks? While people spent time talking about fake news stories that had thousands of likes, bogus news stories from the likes of the Washington Post get seen by millions before they’re corrected.
People have more options, but there most definitely is still one media. And I’ve never been anywhere that was so red that someone had to be worried about being attacked simply for having different political views. You didn’t worry about violence to your or your property just because you wore an Obama sticker in Alabama.
“I may be underestimating how blue it is in your neck of the woods but I’d say you’re equally guilty of underestimating the redness in mine”
No, not at all, I’m from Ohio, not here. Have you seen any Trump supporters attacking people they don’t agree with politically in restaurants lately? Have you seen conservative media companies banning liberals? Have you seen conservatives trying to dox people they don’t agree with on the internet?
No, I haven’t. I also haven’t seen any ‘woke’ people attacking Trumpsters around here. You’re taking the excessiveness of one small part of the country and applying it nationwide and it just doesn’t jibe with reality. If I find a video of some redneck in West Pennsyltucky telling a Spanish speaking K-marter to go home, I haven’t proved that all hillbillies are racist xenophobes. likewise, One or two deep blue idiots attacking MAGA hats isn’t proof that all liberals are closeted ‘up against the wall’ wanna be genocide-ists either.
Yes, I have.
Spider-Verse: AKA the reason I stopped buying comics. What a shitshow.
Homecoming (movie) didn’t suck.
I feel like that no-TV guy everyone hates because I have zero interest in any of the properties mentioned in this article except some of the Pixar stuff which is actually novel. And the three Star Wars movies that are worth a damn, but that was long, long ago.
What kind of loser hasn’t seen the latest Ant-Man movie?
In a galaxy far away?
If you want to try any of the Marvel properties out, I’d suggest trying out Jessica Jones, but that would require Netflix. The Netflix shows have been fairly solid (I even enjoyed Iron Fist), and don’t require any knowledge of the rest of the MCU.
I don’t think Rhywun would be as enamored with Krysten Ritter. Which is a large part of what makes Jessica Jones entertaining. (Although, both the black guys are hot if someone happens to be into that.)
I just don’t have any interest in comic book stuff. Maybe if I had read any of it as a kid but I didn’t.
I read comic book stuff when I was a young kid because that was pretty much my reading level. I moved on. That’s not in any way a slight against comic book readers, just saying that my taste changed over time.
Yeah, I didn’t mean it that way either. Nothing against comic books at all – it just didn’t interest me at the time. And I like a lot of stuff in similar genres – just never got into that particular universe.
No offense taken at all. I’ve accepted that I’m a geek a long time ago. That’s one of the reasons I suggested Jessica Jones, while she has superpowers, she’s trying to (kind of) run a detective agency. Then there’s the comic books that are basically sci-fi with novels (Transmetropolitan, Y the Last Man, etc.). Hell, one of my favorite series is Fables.
Most people here are geeks. Just with different tastes.
I even tried to read it as a kid, but never got the appeal.
Video games were way more fun, and real books were free. The only thing comic books had going for them were cute girls in leotards, but then the internet came along and ruined that for them.
Are you still a gamer?
Heck yeah.
I always liked conquer the world games (thanks Koei), been playing EU4 lately, among others.
I’m a gamer, but I like RPGs best. You still sort of conquer the world, just mostly by yourself, unless you have a party, like in DAO. Not much into strategy since I got burned out on HMM years ago. Recently I’ve played Far Cry 5, POE 2, and No Man’s Sky. Yes, the latter is a completely new game now, just amazing.
So, is No Man’s Sky worth picking up? I used to play Elite: Dangerous pretty frequently, and I get back into it from time to time. For some reason the two were in a weird competition, but I think that was mostly the caustic Steam forums.
NB, If I might suggest, try watching NMS played on Twitch to see what you think. I played when it first hit PS4, but I got over it pretty quickly.
With the most recent update, players are saying it’s one of the biggest comeback stories of video games. There are people asking about the comparison with ED, but I haven’t heard a definitive answer.
/I’ve been watching a handful of players over the last couple of weeks.
I’m in that same boat. I’ve never been remotely interested in comic books and super heroes. Just always seemed very silly stuff to me.
I could’ve done without IF. The rest were better than I expected.
+1
I don’t have any interest in it either.
Of course, most of the movies I watch are from before I was born.
Is there any way to see the pictures on the front page bigger? They always show up as links in my browser. And I just want to feel the magic of Disney©
Try the zoom function in your browser? On Mac, it’s a double-tap on the mouse. Or there might be some key combo to zoom in the page.
Zoom doesn’t change the resolution, or load the original image.
Ah. I have both “zoom text” and “zoom page” (which works on pics too).
https://www.enchantedbikinis.com/collections/swimwear
Thanks 🙂
Also, notice, I copyrighted that euphemism so no one else can use it until 70 years after I’m dead.
$140 for a fucking bikini? GTFO of here.
The lady tax.
Dark Queen FTW.
Read the page source and load the image in a different tab.
I’m too tired to comment properly as I just got in from mowing the yard, but you bring up some interesting points.
Watchmen was the greatest super-hero movie of all time.
Deadpool
Big question tho is will it hold up.
I loved Deadpool. But it was more of a comedy. Also, it wasn’t a standalone work, it depended on knowing about other Marvel stuff.
And the sequel was crap.
The sequel was a bit of a letdown. Partially IMO because the first was so good.
DP2 is more of a trailer for DP and Cable. Sad to lose Morena Baccarin.
Is that the movie with the blue “genius” that was a “hero” that wanted to let millions (billions?) die because reasons?
Part of the point was that he wasn’t a hero. He was an omnipotent being.
Too smart for feelz
“In 1976, this was expanded to 75 years for corporate owned works or the life of the author plus 50 years, and in 1998–with a major push from Disney–it was expanded to 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication for corporate works or the life of the author plus 70 years.”
That bullshit goes way beyond:
“To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.”
Protecting the work of dead people doesn’t promote anything.
Robert A. Iger’s bank account begs to differ.
Agree. Worse than just not promoting the the heirs are often real dick heads about enforcing their rights actually inhibiting the expansion of our culture. Tolkien and Gershwin rights holders come to mind
In the tradition of Balmer and Nawlins, I have learned of a new place name today:
Sakalina
They don’t allow sugar in Sakalina. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXCwJcoqvCc
Linky no work. There’s a place a few block from one of my clients, here in Balmer, where they have these iron grate railed verandas, it looks so much like Nawlins. I think of Nawlins every time I walk by there.
I’ve been watching the Marble Hornets Slender Man videos and this. Guess which one is scarier.
The hooker in the wheel chair wheeling as fast she can to proposition him. Gold.
Apparently, you can’t stop your car in Detroit without being propositioned. I mean, you don’t even have to stop. They’ll just offer you sex as you drive by. Here I thought you’d just increase your chances of being robbed. Friendliest city in America.
So, from the dead threads (because I work, Rufus): Mojeaux, I don’t have a pool, but I do have a hot tub. I looove it. But, every thing I read, suggests that people get tired of pools, but not hot tubs. I plan to retire to a townhouse that has a pool. That way, I don’t have to do the maintenance. Tell yourself you’ll get a pool when someone else does the worrying.
I’m literally ready to drive from Iowa to see Mojeaux in MO b/c her point seems to be missed. The pool is symbolic.
Mojeaux: If I am incorrect, please let me know so I can set-up a GoFundMe for the pool.
I get that it’s symbolic, I’m suggesting changing the symbolism.
I’m aligned with that thinking 🙂
That’s an interesting concept. I need to think on that. Thank you!
No, thats how I read it.
She doesn’t want the pool, she wants to be the kind of person who could have a pool. She wants to make it.
Correct. The pool (especially because, in using my friend’s pool all summer, I have become more aware of its downsides) is now fully a symbol of what I need to feel successful.
Cue George Jefferson.
So no non-caffeinated beverage mugs for you.
No, you’re good. It’s symbolic. It didn’t used to be. I’d sit here in my office, my window open, listen to the screams of joy, and just seethe with resentment that I couldn’t make that happen for myself, that I do not have the wherewithal to make that happen for myself.
The thread was about how socialism was the religion of envy, and I have a problem with envy. Coveting maybe. I don’t want to take what someone else has, is what I’m getting at. I just want one for myself, also.
I’ve got to say, that thread is one of the reasons I kind of wish we had a forum here. I really enjoyed the conversations back and forth there.
Discord? I don’t participate, buy my son uses exclusively.
Goals are good. It’s helpful to have something to work towards. Some of the goals need to be achievable. Nothing succeeds like success. Some of the goals can be impossible. There’s value in dreaming.
Envy is problematic. It generates the wrong goals, and it displaces the good goals (even the impossible ones).
Decide what success is for your life. Forget other people.
or the pond….the pond would be nice for you
Cannonball
My saltwater pool is incredibly low-maintenance.
Master of Horror and Whataboutism
“Mollie Tibbetts may well have been killed by an undocumented alien, and that’s a terrible thing. But we might remember that Stephen Craig Paddock was an American citizen. He killed 58.”
https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/1032223161075552256
What’s your point? Mollie Tibbetts is just as dead, isn’t she? Perhaps you just don’t like brown people?
If Mollie Tibbetts had been carrying a gun, she probably wouldn’t be dead.
Agreed. I generally don’t watch local Iowa news, but have done so over the past few days for case updates. Today there was a piece regarding other “runners” who are now carrying tasers. Get. A. Gun.
You’re in Iowa too, right?
Ames.
Ooh, back in the 90s, I drove up there to see Billy Joel and Elton John in concert.
CR area for me.
I grew up in west Des Moines. There seems to be a lot of Iowa glibs or maybe I just notice it more.
Where are you now?
Norfolk Virginia. My wife was in the navy till a month ago. We were also in South Carolina for a couple years.
Nice. I am a Navy vet (way back), stationed in VA Beach. Charleston was a favorite family vacation when we lived in Princeton.
Depending-on outcomes for one of our major clients, we will be taking a trip to Charlotte/Richmond in coming months.
Hopefully you have whichever is the better outcome with your client. I haven’t actually been to Richmond yet. I’ve lived here about 3 years and I have gone to D.C. and Williamsburg but I will get there eventually.
My wife is firmly anti-gun, which is ironic because her father and I are both very much the opposite. My plan is to get us down to Texas to his place as often as possible (we’re in Maryland now) to spend a week or two hangin’ with Paw Paw and Gigi. The wife won’t abide my teaching her about guns, but she won’t say a damn thing to her dad taking his granddaughter out to shoot a little ol’ Marlin .22 when she’s, say, eight, maybe ten. Once that bridge is crossed, it’ll be easier for me to bring her around up here. And one of my main arguments is going to be that I want my daughter to know how to defend herself, and part of that is learning how to use a gun.
My wife was the same, but you really cannot blame her, considering where she came from. Didn’t take long for her to change her mind, she’s fully in the pro-gun camp now.
Funny thing in my case is that my wife grew up in rural east Texas with a dad who was in law enforcement, who is and has been an avid outdoorsman like the rest of his family, and collects and shoots guns. Hell, he’s got glass-fronted cabinets with his nicer rifles and shotguns in the living room for display. So she grew up in an environment where gun ownership was the norm. My guess is that when she moved up to Maryland to stay with her mother after her parents divorced (she was about 12) it was her liberal Maryland family combined with some bitter memories of the divorce and her current peer group that changed her mind about it. I think for her a lot of it is cultural more than anything.
Bingo.
Gee, if only we had deported Stephen Craig Paddock sooner. Oh, what’s that, you say?
I have no idea who Steven Craig Paddock is. Did he do something?
Vegas shooter (unless there’s a spelling issue there).
I’ll argue that King isn’t a master of horror so much as a master of writing. And I mean the physical act of writing. He is absolutely prolific. He’s an excellent author, but there are better; there are very, very few people who put out as much as he does in a given year.
And that said, there isn’t a dichotomy here. Paddock was a murderer, and he killed innocent people. Fucknut was a murderer, and he killed an innocent person. Both of these events were tragic. To the extent there’s a difference, it’s this: banning guns won’t stop mass murders, but arming individuals will reduce assaults that become murder like Tibbetts.
That’s not a tu quoque fallacy. That’s counterexample as employed in quantificational logic.
Do you believe that patents and copyrights are government protected monopolies a la Kinsella or do you disagree, HM?
No, I agree that patents and copyright exist via governmental monopoly. Since patents do have the effect of stimulating innovation, what would be the equivalent in AnCapistan? Some have suggested NDAs and trade secrets could serve a similar purpose in protecting IP, thus incentivizing bringing an innovation to market.
Whats with the lack of avatars on some people?
And not just Tulpae, this is including some folks who used to have them.
Idk, I noticed it the other day, too.
From what I remember reading, there was a WordPress change that got rid of the automatic bitmap generated avatars, and replaced them with the generic heads. Except for those that SP unfriended.
Auto-generated avatars changed with a recent site update.
Didn’t you have a real avatar before though?
Nope – it came with gravy.
Now I need to do some work to come-up with one.
IMHO, the only good superhero movies are Christopher reeve’s 1977 Superman and Batman Begins.
I kind of liked the Emo Superman reboot but too much computer animation.
“I have zero interest in any of the properties mentioned”
I also don’t care but, of course, I don’t care what others do. But I’m very intrigued by why/who reads comics. I was born in 1965; they were around, and I had very little spending money as a child, so it just never came up.
The nerd connection I don’t get either; what does it mean? On Big Bang the guys play D&D, video games, and obsess over comics. I’m a STEM guy from back when it was just an excellent liberal education for college-track folk; we learned relativity in high school, and I can’t for life of me connect that to the other goofy stuff. Instead, my teenage years were filled with chemicals: octane, cordite, and lipstick.
I saw Star Trek on reruns in the 70s, but I never emulated that behavior: it was just action adventure moralizing, the Rifleman in space.
Star Wars was like Jaws: flavors of the month; at least Star Wars had very novel notions to keep your mind awake. But I was a Godfather and Apocalypse Now kind of guy: more impressed by a story well told that centered on a human condition (thanks, Wm Faulkner) I could relate to.
Today, am I a nerd? I can query your enterprise database, set up chemical reactors, install thousands of amps of 480VAC….and yet X whatever or Iron Man can’t hold my attention long enough for the trailer to end. It seems weird that I’m weird that I don’t get it.
Nerds are one of the few categories people are still free to mine for stereotypical “humor” and BBT dials it up to 11.
I’ve tried watching BBT twice. I haven’t made it longer than about 90 seconds. I hate the show with a passion. I work with at least a few engineers that love the show. But I find it insulting.
Galecki has flawless timing, the best straight man since Bud Abbott.
Parsons says exactly all the same stupid things I thought and said….when I was twelve. That and being technically competent way down yonder in the pawpaw patch….I’m afraid I totally get that character. OT: my son is also a Houston alum.
Cuoco is infinitely nubile (full stop!!!11!)
Shows use laugh tracks to tell the audience when someone said something that was supposed to be funny. That tells me everything I need to know about the Big Bang Theory.
Now you’re trying to get into the Nerd vs. Geek theories. To me,
Nerd = Poor social skills, generally higher then average intelligence
Geek = Someone with deep knowledge about very specific areas, outside of that area, knowledge may vary
You’re onto something there….maybe so.
Geek for me still seems more like someone with a birth defect you see at the circus if you pay extra.
Yes, circus geek is the other generally accepted definition although I think the circus geek connotation is dying off.
I classify as both nerd and geek (or have at various times in my life). My social skills have improved enough that I may no longer be a nerd, but I have become far geekier about several hobbies.
At my old job I got sent to a Personal Improvement class that was all about communication. The concept irritated me a bit, but I did actually learn some shite in the class. It makes me a much better bullshitter, and probably helps me in my career in IT, as the customers I talk to all love me.
I identify as a dork.
I’m very hit or miss on nerd culture. I’m all about campy sci-fi, especially in book form. I love board games like Catan and the like. I enjoy making and building things, including software. However, I never did the comic book thing, never did anime, grew out of Star Wars, and don’t fucking love science.
I don’t know how to classify myself.
As a garbageperson?
Do you use talk to text, or do they make special keyboards for those big fuzzy fingers?
Yeah, pretty much the same here. I don’t actually know anyone who fits the stereotype very closely.
Trademark protection makes some sense. People willfully infringing on trademarks are bordering on fraud.
Patents are a mess, but a least it costs quite a bit to keep one, then you keep paying to keep it in force for the full length of the protection.
Copyright is a fucking disaster. Protecting a creative work for a century is bullshit. But big money talks, and congress rolls over.
Francis Coppala and Sergio Leone are my 2 favorite directors.
Im 52, or is it 53,…anyway I can’t watch too many movies because the stories suck and the editing is way too fast between shots.
If I want CG,. I’ll play GTA V where I get to be the protagonist.
Did you realize that you can find a hippy camp in GTA V and kill all of them? Greatest game ever made by humans?
No will look for it. Killing hippies… Can’t wait. Thanks for the heads up.
Yeah, I just drove into the commune area and ran down the ones outside at the moment. Then I got out with my scary black rifle with thing that goes up. You can guess the rest.
Funny – my husband always mocks me b/c I often misstate my age. It’s honestly something I don’t think about.
Good write up. I think, however, you’re giving them far too much credit for long term thinking. Honest truth is that the industry, as a whole, has always been on the brink of collapse, with the exception of a few short periods.
The creation of Miles as a character, was (unlike Lady Thor or pushing the inhumans) from a pretty smart place. Brian Bendis recognized something I noted when I was teaching, that Spidey was the most popular character among black kids. The full mask was an element. Giving a new audience a character (that never fully replaced Spider-Man except except in one line of books) was actually pretty smart from a sales perspective.
Truth is that the prevalence of SJW characters isn’t some brilliant move to maintain control of the characters. Like the old saying, never attribute to malevolence that which can be explained by incompetence.
Real problem of the industry, which I keep on pushing on my podcast, is poor editing, and a wretched distribution model that rewards inaccessible story telling which only existing and aging readers benefit from.
I haven’t followed comics very closely since way back, right after civil war. I still pick up trade paper backs now and then and check on blogs to see what is worth looking into but mostly they are just too expensive and too often not very good. I’ve wondered why hasn’t anyone done something Iike make comics with cheaper paper and printing like 4 color and newsprint to keep them cheaper than $5 for 22 pages.
Hell, most of my comic knowledge from the modern era is from Wikipedia.
Re: inaccessible story telling
It’s funny, I had a conversation with a friend of mine the other day about comics. I watch the Marvel movies and enjoy them for what they are, and he’s never seen one and has no interest. We were talking about that, and then it went into the Wokening of comics and how that’s impacting their bottom line. I’m of the mind that mostly it’s because we’re at least a generation away from kids who didn’t have the Internet, streaming video, etc., so the idea of buying comics in a store to read them and keep up with the story isn’t natural or, frankly, a good alternative to online or streaming entertainment. Neither of us got into the mainstream comics, although I was a big Sandman guy and I checked out some of the limited series stuff when it hit graphic novel format. He gave all of them a pass. We both agreed that the reason was you’d have these massive story arcs with backstory extending years and across series, so unless you’d been a dedicated collector it was difficult to follow. And then, of course, you’d have your “clear the table” story events that would kill off characters and kind of clear the story arcs away so they could start anew, thus making the time invested pretty much wasted.
I was pretty into sandman for awhile I’ve got all the main series and a few of the spinoffs. I haven’t read Lucifer or checked out any of the new books that just launched.
It wound up around the time I was heavy into black makeup, combat boots, and Bauhaus, so it and the Death spinoff was right up my alley. It still stands pretty well, I think, both in terms of the art and Neil Gaiman’s writing. The last one I read was Endless Nights.
Mike Carey’s Lucifer is excellent.
Back in High School I knew a lot of people that got sucked into soap operas during the summer, despite there being a huge backstory behind it. I’m not going to try to sound proud, but if you can follow soap operas, you can follow comics.
It’s not as easy to follow comics. Hell, as a person who has read comics on and of for three decades, even I find myself lost and confused by most modern comics. My co-host is in even worse shape. What’s needed is a return of editors. Jim Shooter, an editor for Marvel back in the eighties, had some rules that he felt every comic must follow.
“Characters must be introduced. The situation must be established. The conflict must be introduced. Suspense must be built. A climax must be reached. A resolution must be achieved.”
So, on my last podcast I covered a number of comics from back in 1979. What was amazing was how clear those books were. Why? They followed those rules.
Real problem is lack of editors who give a damn about individual issues.
Yeah, That was at the heart of what made Marvel’s Civil War such a mess. There was no central argument. The SHRA was whatever the writer said it was, with no pushback.
I’ve never been a soap opera mark, but I’ve watched stuff like Upstairs, Downstairs, which is probably close enough. My problem is that I want to know all of the backstory so that I’m not missing any references in what’s currently happening. At this point, the comics ship has sailed for me, but even when I was theoretically a target demographic I needed to know all of the background before I could really enjoy a story.
A couple of years ago DC tried to solve this by rebooting their whole universe with the New 52, to get folks like you on board. The whining from some old school sectors of DC fans was so grievous, particularly because Wally West was now the “wrong” skin color for some people’s liking, that they undid the reboot 3 years later and now it’s even a worse mish-mosh, as they keep some of the new elements while returning to the old.
That’s exactly what my friend and I were talking about. On the one hand, sweet, now there’s a Square One new people can start from. On the other hand, does this mean that I’m going to invest a bunch of time, money, and interest only to have it “reset” again in a few years? I’m not arguing for it to be one way or the other, because clearly I’m not the target market for the format.
Yeah, Marvel Tried the same thing a few years back with the Ultimate line, by having new writers retelling the old stories. It really didn’t work out well.
A couple years ago, I bought the “essential” TPB for every Marvel event going back to “House of M”, including “Civil War”, “Planet Hulk”, “WWHulk” and one or two others.
I feel let down after going through them – but don’t care enough to buy any of the other TPBs – although I’ve heard that a couple of the other Civil War ones might be good – like Spider man and Captain America (but there’s something like 30 different associated collections….).
OTOH, the original Marvel Ultimate Alliance for Xbox360 from about 11 years ago is a beautiful and very fun summation of about 50 years of classic Marvel characters and villains, settings, trivia, etc. I like to replay that one every few years slowly unlocking the classic costumes, etc.
The new Walt Simonson Thor collections are great – Vol 1 has the intro to Beta Ray Bill – great collection.
I think the issue with Marvel isn’t so much that they’re using these new characters to plan ahead for public domain (hell, Disney’s managed to get extensions before, no reason they wouldn’t again), but that they honestly don’t even *care* about the books anymore. Or, more precisely, they use the books as loss-leaders. They can send all their social signaling to the books, and they don’t care if the books sell, because the books don’t make them any money anyway. The money is in the movies and the merchandise, and they can use the books and their long history of characters as an IP farm for films/tv/merch forever. You can also tell that they don’t give a shit about the books, because there’s pretty exactly opposite any kind of synergy with the movies. Outside a few movie-related titles, the main Avengers lines all changed their leads at exactly the time they ought to have been closest to the film versions to get crossover audiences; instead, Marvel basically didn’t try, making sure that Iron Man, Thor, and Cap were all as different as possible. You want to read about Iron Man cuz you liked his movies? Too bad, sucker, he’s dead and some chick took over. From a promotional standpoint, that doesn’t make any sense at all, unless Marvel doesn’t care about growing their audience.
And this not caring goes to the editing, which as you say, has been mostly terrible for years. I tried to read MOCKINGBIRD, because I used to read comics and I liked her on the TV show, and it was terrible. The dialogue was straight out of a Gender Studies 101 class. No decent editor – even if he wanted Mockingbird to be that sort of strident feminist — should’ve let that pass. So I put that thing back on the shelf and haven’t even picked another one up to look at since, so GOOD JOB Marvel Editor, not only did I not buy that particular book, you made sure I wouldn’t get back into the hobby by being awful. (granted I’m sure there are good books, as well, but I don’t care enough to look. We just happened to be in the store)
Lordy, I am overdosing on nerd. No offense but I have no idea what most of this means.
I should go work on my accurizing ammunition article. and start my forestry series.
But a four part series on making things that go *bang* is not nerdy? 😉
“Geeky”
Just wait for that day Suthenboy and I argue ballistics.
It has six parts!
Scene: street corner
GunGlib walking down the street. is distracted by “1/2 off AMMO SALE” banner across the street.
meanwhile, NerdGlib walking down the cross-street, is distracted by the comic book he’s reading.
there is a collision as they turn the corner into each other,
GunGlib: Hey, you got your nerd porn in my gun culture!!
NerdGlib: You got your gun culture in my nerd porn!!
They each take a tentative taste of the resulting jumble..
Q: Look Boobs!!!
fade to black
accurizing ammunition article
If there are three words that can give a man a Woody those three words in that order will do
Speaking of firearms, the other day I pulled up alongside a motorcycle at a stoplight. Look over and notice he’s OCing. With his chick sitting behind him with her arms wrapped around him. Great sight to see.
I read Mad Magazine and Cracked instead of comics. They were always ragging on Howard Cosell which I thought was hilarious
I haven’t been on as much since I started my current job so this might have already been discussed but does anybody think there is any chance of the equal rights amendment getting revived. http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/23/democrats-are-trying-to-sneak-a-feminist-amendment-into-the-constitution-36-years-later/
To what end?
Essentially, this amendment is a quota – equal representation for women in every sphere.
So women will have to sign up for selective service?
Yes, and an equal amount of child support, because equal. Sure.
I thought those two exact things when I first heard of this.
Good. Let them get bit on the ass like everyone else did by Title IX.
They’ll have to get sent to prison more often.
Equal rights is already a thing. Despite the best efforts of democrats to deny it. Democrats are not passing shit. Even if they win the house in Nov, they still will not be able to because of the GOP Senate and Trump. And Trump will win reelection in 2020 and the GOP are probably going to win back the house if they lost it in 2018 due to the unhinged behavior of the democrats.
Might have to print up some new signs. Those forty year old ERA NOW signs tucked away in the garage or attic are probably pretty rotted these days.
All of the women are highly Q approved.
WRT Disney’s tard bucket SJW bullshit: Disney is nothing if not a savvy marketer. They’re betting that this stuff is going to be a winner long term. The box office performance for Star Wars 7 and 8 seems to show that their bet may not be good. I don’t think they’re an SJW “roll left and die” suicide pact-type company. A string of losers and they’ll correct course.
Does Disney still do Scrooge McDuck? If so, I can just imagine how they’ve changed him into either an evil capitalist scheming to take over the world from his underground laboratory where he is building an army of vicious Beagle Boys, or a bleeding heart soy duck who can’t wait to give all his money to the Federal Reserve to end the deficit while railing about Venezuela being benchmark for goodness and prosperity.
No. a tragic almost Randian hero, actually.
They’re doing another generation of Ducktales, and Scrooge still mostly still ignores Huey, Duey and Louie, but now there’s a girl around.
Webby was always a major character, even in the original.
Fair enough. As long as we’re complaining about comics, I can recognize that Scrooge McDuck wasn’t just what I enjoyed as a kid, but he has a long history.
David Tennant is currently the voice of Scrooge McDuck.
You can’t have a Scottish man play a Scottish Duck! That takes jobs away from Highland and Lowland Anatine Actors!
From previous thread: Australian pm out. Vote now under way to select next pm.
…why?
Lack of confidence in his ability to win next election- may, 2019 at latest
He couldn’t resolve the dingo crisis in Monto.
He lost the confidence of the Bogan vote
Vote me PM down, sport?
HuffPo Details ‘What It’s Like To Get Your Period When You’re Not A Woman’
Jesus Feathery Christ
Smdh feminine hygiene is triggering. Reminds me at work the other day I offered someone help and they said “we don’t need your help, we are Y chromosome intolerant.” We was her and her since day 1 male husband.
That in no way sounds desirable to me.
OH
I first saw the headline and thought it was a dude pretending to be a chick and pretending to get their period.
But then I actually clicked, and it’s a chick getting her period while pretending to be a dude.
That makes much more sense.
MUH NARRATIV
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/21/atf-data-undercuts-claim-that-gun-controlled-cities-get-guns-from-surrounding-states/
Even if they did from neighboring states, so what? What they want is national prohibition and then the guns will just come from neighboring countries, and will all be fully automatic. Gun grabbers are stupid.
Would. Wouldn’t. Would. Would. Would. Wouldn’t.
This sounds appetizing.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/08/22/flesh-eating-std-allegedly-reported-in-england.html
Sounds like Corbyn.
I’d like to think that if I encountered a sexual partner with a bleeding ulcer on their vagina, I’d notice and stop. Then I remember how drunk I usually am. I mean, half the time I can’t even say for sure if it’s a vagina.
I guess this is what happens when your guns have been taken away and your police are more interested in investigating offensive tweets than crime.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6062653/Acid-attacker-beaten-gang-vigilantes-east-London.html
Pretty sure nobody coulda seen THAT coming.
Gee, who could have predicted that under a government that has abandoned all pretense of protecting it’s citizens safety that vigilante groups might pop up?
This is the UK, you need to translate it into American. It seems this guy was apprehended by a group of people standing outside the shop. Here, we would call them “heroic by-standers coming to the aid of a cashier”, however, in Airstrip One, anyone not a deputized officer of the law who takes any action to maintain the Queen’s order is by definition a “vigilante”.
OK, shitlord, then why is it hat humans never killed other humans before guns?
“painless”
This is one of the best written articles I’ve read in a while.
Race warz for fun and profit
I agree with most of that, especially the part about consolidating around American identity and principles of liberty and individual rights. The Dems’ “divide and conquer” immigration strategy has been pretty obvious for some time and their overt anti-American, anti-assimilation stance is largely what’s to blame for the growing nativist sentiment amongst the newly formed Trumpian base. I’ve said for a while that if the Pubs not only want to win electorally, but also do the right thing for the country and liberty, they need to turn up the heat on the melting pot.
If by “pretty obvious for some time”, you mean since 1854, you’re spot on.
That having been said, we survived.
That is a serious question…..
Surprised you are willing to admit it since I thought saying immigrants vote Democrat was a nativist anti-libertarian sentiment.
Well the entity called the “Democratic party” has survived in a completely different form
As someone who has a copyright I just don’t get why you think the time it takes me to sell it means that eventually someone I tried to sell it to can copy it with out compensation to me. (a creators standpoint on IP)
Where do you stand on the “free beer” distinction, though?
HM SF’d a link, sounds like mumbo jumbo talk to anyone not us.
Try now.
Someone who bought a finished beer product can give it away gratis, but someone whole stole a recipe and set it libre is a thief.
Ok, but if I bought the beer, can I make a derivative beer and give it away to friends?
One thing I will say, taste is observably more subjective than a written or visual product. In that way, trying to recreate a flavor profile is more akin to things that would be considered not to violate IP, like Dead Pool and Death Stroke or (to allude to the article) A remake of The Wizard of Oz without the Ruby Slippers.
So how do you feel about fan fiction?
The IP world is filled with derivative works, like Transmorphers.
Man, I love The Ayslum. Just for Asian Schoolgirls alone.
Fanfic is fine, as a pastime, but should not be able to be monetized, as I said in my Myth and the Mouse article about fan edits, it is murky, where the line is and should be drawn. The edit ads an editorial view, which if different enough could be considered fair use, but again I would say that would be without a profit. That is more where I wonder where the line should be drawn, rather than scrapping IP altogether.
Transmorphers!
The four that greet the sky!
Which I think is fair, and what I call the “Lucasfilm” model. Paramount/CBS has this annoying habit of sending cease and desist letters to Star Trek fan projects that get too popular, and/or manage to get former ST actors, even if they aren’t monetized.
Yes, I think Paramount should have had no reason to stop Axanar if there was no profits to be made. That’s basically saying you play Star Trek, but if you film yourself playing Star Trek that’s illegal. What if you play Star Trek and invite people to watch? Does the camera being there change things?
My one experience with IP and copyright and so forth is third hand. An author who is a friend of a friend sold publishing rights for a certain duration to a publishing company for books he wrote. He later found out that the company had continued to publish and sell his books past the terms of the rights agreement and had obviously not paid him any of the royalties he’d be due. He sued, and eventually won in court, but the company just folded and moved on, so he didn’t recover any damages. In his case, he was at the time just breaking into the market, so losing thousands of sales genuinely hurt him financially since it’s not like the people who bought those books were going to hear about the case and then buy another version from his legitimate publisher or send him the royalty amount themselves. As I hear it, shit like that hits smaller authors particularly hard because you’re talking about small, niche markets, so you don’t know that you’re losing sales.
This is kind of where I’m coming from. Most people seem to look at IP as BIG BIZNEZZ STOPS LITTLE GUY!111!!! But I see it as a way to protect my product from the big companies I shop it around to. Why should the amount of time it takes me to sell my idea from point of copyright stop my being protected from people stealing what I’m trying to sell?
I’ve had a couple small things published, and on the one hand I’d be flattered if people were copying my stuff in its entirety and passing it off as their own. On the other, there was a time when I entertained the notion of doing it for something like a living, and that changes the equation considerably. And just generally, if I create something, I want to decide what to do with it. If that’s to give it to all and sundry to do with whatever they please, then fine. If it’s to pay for the privilege of reading it and nothing else, then that’s fine too. And, like you say, there’s a lot of work that goes into creating something worthwhile that is only feasible if you’re getting a return on it. I keep thinking of those “little library” things that people put up. If you’re using it to just dump old books you don’t care about, who cares? But if you’re spending money to put good stuff in there only to see it stolen, would you keep doing it? At a certain point it goes past “This is my idea” to “I can either come up with these interesting ideas that entertain you or I can administer databases, but the mortgage has to get paid either way, so pick one.”
Like I said, IP also protects the little guy. I pitched a show to Cartoon Network (owned by Ted Turner at the time, not sure if he still has controlling interest). I made sure to get a copyright before I sent the pitch. They didn’t buy, but that is beside the point. I was a broke 25 year old, without any IP what would I be able to do if they straight out ripped off my idea? And 10 years later, if some producer had my pitch in his back pocket why should he be able to use my idea if IP only lasted 10 years? If it only lasted 20 years, why does that time span make it ok for someone else to claim my idea as theirs? And so on.
HT/ Sargon. Blue Check Watch.
I didn’t hate white people until I saw that dude’s avatar.
I’m white, and I’ll admit I’m kind of on the fence myself.
Yeah, I’m pretty much straight up semi-funky corn-fed white boy, but when I saw his avatar my arsehole clenched so hard you could open a Pepsi with it.
You guys are all proving his point!
OK, someone help a Glib out, here–are we talking “punchable-ness of the face”, or, “OF COURSE he’d be the one to document this stuff/pecckerwood”?
‘Cause, I can see it going either way*, really. Unless I’m just missing something.
*why not both, amirite?
Yeah, I’ll take both. If there’s someone who’s going to stand up for white people on the Internet it would be nice if they weren’t like the worst stereotype of white people, which includes having a very, very punchable face. Also, I think it’s adequate to just say, “Some people say racist shit about white people and it shouldn’t be acceptable, either,” and move on.
Ah, thanks. I didn’t have an immediate reaction, per se, but, I can see cautioning him to maybe not wade into that shit (especially online), if I knew him.
The more I think about it, I can easily see him making the news by being on the receiving end of an ass-kicking over his twitter.
I mean, if MAGA hats and shirts set off some people…
It would also help if he didn’t have autism and could separate the ones that are clearly satirical from the ones that are genuine expressions of bigotry.
The wife and I finally saw the VMA bit with Kevin Hart, and our simultaneous reaction was, “Oh, so, basically like Def Comedy Jam.” It would be nice if everyone could lighten up just a smidge.
I was just going for Backpfeifengesicht.
Gracious madam, I that do bring the news made not the match.
And, I’m now that more educated in another language to boot.
I don’t say it anywhere near enough, HM, but you are an exemplary educator, just by your input here. And, you have kept me ideologically consistent more times than I can count.
Thank you.
I enjoy what this place has become thanks to all of us.
Hear, hear!
Huzzah?! What you sayin’ by ‘us’?
Oh, you (people)!
It really is sort of a motley crew of witty, smart, insightful people hangin’ out, throwing ideas in the hopper, and writing interesting stuff. And remarkably civil, I think. It’s a good place. Without getting too sappy, it gives me a lot of hope.
The civility, shared comedic sensibilities along with age variance is what gets me. We have Fourscore who is in his 80s and a few commenters/lurkers who are in their teens. Yet we all seem to love the same references and in-jokes. It’s quite odd.
Probably because we are all Tulpa.
That would be awesome if like Oliver Willis anyone could tweet “Obviously I hate black people. Obviously.” and we all agreed it was just sarcasm.
Obviously, I hate black people.
I only hate black people if they have punchable faces.
We really need to end this tit for tat mentality, it’s the same way the left justifies their shit. “South Africa should redistribute the land, the whites stole it from the blacks!”
The reverse-the-roles-and-see-how-you-like-it meme is played out. The left doesn’t care. “Yeah, so what? We’re collectivists. What did you think we’d do?”
Yeah, just in general, I like to be the better man and stand my ground on reason (DRINK)
Except they have a really bad habit of not thinking about what happens when their opponents start acting like them. Harry Reid pulling the Nuclear option was a great example. I guess they thought that the Dems had a 1,000 year lock on the presidency and congress. Now that that didn’t happen, now all the Dems can do to stop a supreme court nominee is hold their breath, because they don’t have the votes to stop it.
Sort of related: https://youtu.be/gAc-RqVOmTU
Heh, Pepe had a rainbow flag…I done seen what they did done there…
This mighta gotten posted last night….but I guess that furry future NASA employee / Homer Hickam story didn’t wind up with a happy ending after all…..weird.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1032758677541859328