STEVE SMITH CATCH UP ON QUOTA!
STEVE SMITH BUSY RAPESQUATCH. HIM DO MANY LINKS IN WEEK. HIM ALSO HAVE CATCH UP ON QUOTA. GO VISIT CAMPGROUND AFTER LINKS. NEED READ FOREST LAW JOURNAL, SO HIM KEEP UP ON BEING PROMINENT FOREST LAWYER! NO NEW WORD ON CASCADIA FREEDOM. BUT STEVE SMITH KEEP WORK ON.
HERE LINKS FOR FUNNY GLIBERTARIAN HOOMANS:
- CHIPOTLE HAUNT OLD PARENT COMPANY MCDONALDS? LOOK LIKE THEM USE SAME LETTUCE! STEVE SMITH STICK TO FOREST DIET.
- STEVE SMITH HOPE FUNNY JAPAN GLIBERTARIANS OK. STEVE SMITH HIDE IN CAVE WHEN STORMS.
- THIS MAKE STEVE SMITH SHAKE HEAD. MAYBE HIM NEED RAPE RESEARCHERS AND SHOPPERS BOTH.
- WHY SILLY PEOPLE PICK JAIL MAN FOR RUN PRESIDENT? STEVE SMITH NOT SURE BRAZIL HOOMANS NOT CRAZY.
HOPE LIKE LINKS. STEVE SMITH GO NOW, CATCH UP ON WORK. BY WORK, MEAN RAPE.
“STEVE SMITH STICK TO FOREST DIET.”
It’s better than McDonalds food.
“An infection of the Cyclospora cayetanensis parasite can cause cyclosporiasis, an ailment that can include diarrhea, stomach cramps, bloating, nausea, fatigue and flu-like symptoms.”
So basically the same as their regular salad?
“forest diet . . ”
Because everything makes him sport wood?
*golf clap*
McDonald’s should have stuck to their core menu. I think branching out to appease the health nannies, who don’t eat there anyway, did a number on their food and service.
I tried a one of their new ‘fresh beef’ Quarter Pounders and it’s pretty good for fast food, definitely way better than the old one. They need to refocus on things like that and getting food out hot and fast.
And stop microwave reheating, er using the Q-ing oven.
Fuck, they’re still using those? I remember when those were introduced to the store I worked at back in 1994.
I don’t notice a difference with the ‘fresh’ beef, but I do think they’ve fucked their real customers by trying to appease people that will never eat their no matter what time and time again.
“In Japan, evacuation orders are not mandatory and people often remain at home, only to become trampled by a giant lizard.”
I was a little damaged this morning(I blame Yusuf), so cocktail time was slightly delayed. All is now right with the world.
I have to admit after Straff and I met up in Tokyo in Fri night Sat was nearly a waste of a day. By the way no squid were involved other than a few drunk tourist.
When your best Presidential candidate is sitting in a prison cell, you know your country has issues.
I doubt that guy is the “best” candidate by a long, long shot.
I hope he wins just for the entertainment factor.
Brazil has issues in spades. They are starting to suffer significant out migration of their educated young. The reason isn’t even economic; it’s crime. They are in for a very hard road (see Argentina) if they don’t make major changes.
I think the Democrats should run JFK. That guy grabbed some quality pussy.
Hyperion wouldn’t say he’s the best candidate.
Who else but someone corrupt are the “Worker’s Party” going to run.
Ban shopping bags, duh.
That’s good. Let’s add credit cards and sales staff. That should stop it in its tracks.
Which is incidentally everyone that ate a McD’s salad in a country of 330 million.
coincidentally? fuck it.
Trigger warning, you’re going to want to punch somebody in the face.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-consultant-report-full-20180803-story.html
Procedures were followed…
That is particularly and very specifically true in this case.
The report seems to indeed be a paid-for whitewashing, but it still carries the salient bit of information:
The school system wanted to move him back to a special school for behavioral problems. He didn’t want to go. So they told him he had to sign a paper waiving all rights to any support or federal protections for students with disabilities if he stayed at MSD. This is termed as an error by the investigator, but I’d use the word “lie”. They clearly didn’t want to support him there, and so they tried to make it as difficult as possible for him, expecting that a mentally ill teen would make a rational decision based on an evaluation of his own needs.
That’s just nuts. Heck, a perfectly healthy teen is unlikely to perform an accurate cost-benefit analysis in that situation.
I personally turned down several opportunities as a teen, simply because I didn’t want to uproot and leave my friends behind. I could have gone to the school of math and science, or the school of the arts…. but I wanted to stay where i was, so I did… much to my own detriment.
The administrators in question knew exactly what they were doing. They didn’t know that they were setting up a mass shooting, but they knew they were setting this kid up for failure. It is pretty much laid out exactly like that in the report, just absent the value judgment.
So not only did the school district (normally a bevy of control freaks) let this blatantly troubled and violent mammal out of their sights, but also he managed to not be arrested despite multiple repeat domestic disturbance calls (the kind that piss Enforcers off to the point they usually haul off everyone involved)?
Bonus points for releasing the heavily redacted report (per the request of both the students lawyers and the courts) in a format where cut/Past-as-plain-text would restore the redacted text.
I wonder if he’ll skate on a contempt charge…
But in his mind he was perfect.
https://www.nbc4i.com/sports/johnny-manziel-throws-4-interceptions-in-cfl-debut/1345629506
The Reds suck so bad, Ive actually sought out CFL games, hoping for some entertainment from Johnny Football.
Well, 4 INT’s is entertaining. It ain’t good football… but it is entertaining.
Alcohol is a hell of a drug.
Don’t get it twisted- due to being old, fat, and white, WLW plays in some quadrant of the Palatial 2X-Wide 24-hours a day. I rarely miss baseball.
However, I I just like the idea that Manziel woke up in Hamilton, ON one morning in a ‘moment of clarity’ and had to come to terms with the reality that went from 1st freshman to get a Heisman, to the NFL, to trashing his life, and is currently working on a metric field. And has already been traded. To Frenchies.
Straight back into the bottle after that revelation.
I made this for a photoshop contest his rookie year where the category was ‘where will stars be in 5 years’
Ill just drag THIS over here from the previous thread, cause I dont feel it received the exposure it was due:
(russian) Automotive Engineers in action !
Like to see those take a fast corner:) they would probably do pretty well on snow though.
That tire replacement is great. I saw some prototype from a tire maker with a similar design. They replaced the tire with fiberglass springs with rubber shoes in contact with the road.
Similar to this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2wAvxQfusWU
The media loves free speech! Unless they’re the subject matter.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/08/04/newseum-stops-selling-trump-related-fake-news-merchandise-after-journalist-meltdown
Stop fucking up all the links I had put aside for the morning; that was my pet! Here, let’s start drinking and shit-texting, that will occupy you.
No caprese tonight, out of burrata. But we’ll manage.
You could always do a Chive link and pre-empt Q.
Although I’m sure your version would put us all in jail for clicking.
Payback for not posting my caprese picture, bitch.
Here, this is up your alley. Use this one tomorrow.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/aug/04/cosmic-orgasm-rise-of-conscious-breathing
Your boat, your loss. You really should consider putting your belongings in a styrofoam chest.
Speaking of styrofoam chest, ever hear from that gal from Tahoe any more?
Thank god, no. The one weekend I spent up there was a personal best though, worthy of much bragging.
Did I tell you the story about e-mailing another friend of ours about dumping her and accidentally sending it to her mistake? That was a fun phone conversation. She had problems understanding punctuation too.
All the developmental energy went to her chest. Did not leave much to spare for things like, you know, brains.
Fake news! Media Derangement Syndrome edition, the story, after claiming a ‘flurry of intense criticism’ post one tweet from *checks notes* Jeff Jarvis, thats right thee Jef jarvis from none other than highly respected blog “BuzzMachine”. Oh but ‘Numerous journalists and employees in the news industry lashed out’ isn’t that like ‘sources say’? AH nevermind it fits the narrative lets run with it.
For those interested, Steam is doing a board game sale this weekend. Most are ports of Android games, but I can recommend the following as solid games:
Lords of Waterdeep
Splendor
Scythe (haven’t played the digital version yet, only physical)
Terra Mystica
Hive
Brass
I finally pulled the trigger on Blood Bowl 2 Legendary (although I disliked the studio for trying to sell all the races as DLC).
Glibs board game night?
I believe I’ve posted my collection before, I think I have enough options for people.
No Passout?
Negative. I’ve never needed a game to have a reason to drink.
I’d be in for that action.
Well, damn it. I started for home earlier and noticed right away the engine was stuttering a bit and power was low… then the idiot light comes on. Parked it back in the driveway (thankfully I was near the house I’d just left), and now have to figure out what it is and what to do about it. I had *just* filled the tank from empty, so maybe it’s bad gas? I’ll find out tomorrow…
Similar symptom to a failed coil too. Most new engines are coil over plug with each cylinder having its own coil.
One fails, engine runs on N-1 cylinders and the idiot light pops on.
o2 sensor is the most common cause for the light, but that doesn’t usually affect power but could affect idle.
Also, many O2 sensor lights are based on the odometer, and don’t affect anything.
I had similar weird symptoms and thought of a bad sensor immediately. It would lose power on engaging the transmission…. sometimes. Then it would almost stall out. Putting it in neutral would let it come back to life, and then it would drive fine for a day or two. Then more of the same. I took it to a couple of mechanics… the first couldn’t find anything. The second didn’t have time to check it, but suggested I check out the battery.
Whuh?
So I did. Replacing the battery fixed the problem. A bad battery was causing weird low-voltage situations that were screwing with the car.
Back in olden times with distributors with caps and rotors, that didn’t happen. At least not in my experience.
Anyway, I was really happy with that answer, because the battery was under warranty. Zero bucks for the fix.
My car battery died last fall — six weeks after the warranty ran out. 😡
Blown cells could still kill an ignition even back in the old days of mechanical ignition.
Put black tape over the light. Your welcome.
I looked this up on WebMD. Cancer.
Did you screw the gas cap back on tight?
… Hobbit
Did he check the thermostat?
Since this is Barack Obama Day (no, really, http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/400374-illinois-celebrates-first-annual-barack-obama-day). This article seems relevant:
“Obama Was the Original Birther
Long ago in 1991 when Bill Clinton, to borrow Colin Powell’s description, was “D—ing bimbos” in Arkansas, Barack Obama was a Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School. During his fellowship he began writing his first book, Dreams From My Father. The aspiring author had a literary agency, Acton and Dystel, which prepared a promotional booklet including a brief Obama biography. They printed similar bios for the other 89 authors they represented. Standard practice in the publishing world.
In the bio, Obama is described as “Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii”. This booklet was first published in Brietbart and verified by Snopes. The excuse for the birthplace discrepancy is that the bio was written by some editor at the literary agency, not by Obama himself. Which may very well be true. But where did the editor get this information?
Remember that in 1991, the internet was just in process of being invented by Al Gore. One couldn’t run a web search for Barack Obama and his background and education. As president of the Harvard Law Review, he published nothing. As he was a recent law school graduate, there would be little in the public library about his background. The New York Times published a short article in 1990 announcing Obama’s election to the Harvard Law Review, but with no mention of his being born in Kenya. In fact, the article in the Times stated that he was born in Hawaii.
The logical conclusion is that what the literary editor wrote for the Obama bio, particularly the part of him being born in Kenya, had to come from Obama himself. Why would an editor cherry pick some information from the New York Times article and manufacture something else about his place of birth?”
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/09/obama_was_the_original_birther.html
I never got the whole birther thing. Who gives a fuck if he was born in Kenya? His Mother was an American, and therefore he, like millions of other people regardless of place of birth is a natural born American, as in they did not have to go through a naturalization process to become an American. It was granted at birth and they can get a blue passport just like my half breed Canadian niece and nephew. Obama being a natural born progressive POS is another matter.
But you also have to be delivered vaginally. It’s the MacBeth loophole.
Who’s Beth and what does her vagina have to do with it?
I never got it either, but the fact that it was invented by a Hillary supporter was a quickly abandoned fact to cast cooky republicans as racist. And hey, Cheeto rode that all the way to the white house, I don’t know what the fuck this world is about anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY
Americans tolerate their own hating their country more than outsiders.
I posted this probably a dozen times on the TOS.
The place of birth of Barack Obama matters. If he had been born outside of the USA in 1961, he would not have become a US citizen at birth according to the federal law on the books at the time. His mother (a US citizen) would not have been able to transfer her US citizenship to Barack because she did not meet the US residency requirement: she was only 18 and therefore could not reside for at least five years in the US after she turned 14. This requirement was relaxed in 1986.
https://usimmigrationlaw.net/citizenship-at-birth/
No shit. I never saw you post that at TOS but I was a mid level lurker there for the most part. Learn something new everyday. What a stupid law and wtf is with the arbitrary age of 14? Some anti-teen pregnancy angle? In all the birther stuff I have heard over the years, this is the first time I have heard that law on the books at the time brought up. No wonder they fabricated a Hawaiian Birth certificate.
I suspect the original intent of the law was to prevent something like this: a couple of foreigners (tourists, students, etc.) has a child born in the US who automatically becomes a US citizen, then the family goes back to the home country. The child, who is a US citizen, doesn’t really have any connection to the US other than the US passport, perhaps never even visited it again and doesn’t remember anything about the US from the time he or she was born. The law would prevent that child to pass US citizenship to his or her children. I’m pretty sure that people like Barack Obama and his mother were not the target of that law.
On the plus side, I got hold of a set of plans drawn up for another property dad built, so now with some rough dimensions and a complete set of a real architect’s work to go on, I can start drafting that addition. I’m stoked, I think I can get a city-approved set of plans before fall term starts. Suck on that, terrible group members from summer term!
I wonder if STEVE SMITH noticed that the typhoon story is about last week’s typhoon, being dated July 29.
“Nobody like a tattle-tale, Danny. Except me, of course”
-Chevy Chase
Swiss needs to snap his ass into line. And by snap his ass, I mean…
DO NOT call him Sally.
Just sayin…
So you’re laying claim to that Nom de Glib? fine I won’t call anyone else Sally, Sally.
“Russia tasks Hollywood actor Seagal with improving U.S. ties
MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russia’s Foreign Ministry said on Saturday it had made U.S. actor Steven Seagal its special representative for Russian-U.S. humanitarian ties, a role it said was meant to deepen cultural, art and youth ties between the two countries.
President Vladimir Putin presented a Russian passport to U.S. actor Steven Seagal in 2016, saying he hoped it would serve as a symbol of how fractious ties between Moscow and Washington were starting to improve.
Since then, U.S.-Russia relations have only got worse however with U.S. intelligence agencies accusing Moscow of interfering in Donald Trump’s White House run, an allegation Russia denies. The two countries are also at odds over Syria and Ukraine.
The Russian Foreign Ministry likened Seagal’s new role to that of a U.N. goodwill ambassador and said that the actor, who is known for his martial arts prowess, would receive no salary.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-seagal/russia-tasks-hollywood-actor-seagal-with-improving-u-s-ties-idUSKBN1KP0NP
Jean-Claude Van Damme wasn’t available?
I’ve only finished a few episodes, but Jean-Claude Van Johnson is a delight for someone who was a boy at a particular point in cinematic history.
To be fair, Van Damme scored legit kick-boxing trophies in the early 80s
He’s Belgian so he’s their EU rep.
Their first choice was taken by North Korea already.
That fat old faking has-been?
Now if they had chosen, say, Lorenzo Lamas, that would be something.
Was Chuck Norris too busy?
I’ll repeat this story because it deserves repeating. In film school a prominent Assistant Director/Producer gave a lecture. He talked about when he met with Steven Seagal for a movie. He arrived at Seagal’s house and was directed to the backyard, where Steven sat in a pagoda with two dolbermans. Instead of talking about the movie Seagal just kept rambling about how he worked with the CIA and they had a time machine.
dolbermans
Keith Olbermann’s mother was a bitch, wasn’t she?
Saturday night movie recommendation .
Or, its what Ill be watching here directly.
Today, in socon bullshit:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/a-hot-dog-is-not-a-sandwich/
OT: My Massdrop Sennheiser HD6XX headphones came in. Surprisingly different sound from their almost identically constructed older brother the HD600. I can highly recommend both.
Currently listening to J-Pop. Junna is a bit of fresh air. Five foot nothing and all of 17 years old, but with a nice rich voice that doesn’t need the autotuning turned up to 11. Pretty much the opposite of most J-Pop which is both high range and processed within an inch of its life.
https://youtu.be/lMfg2izo8xs
How does THIS sound in them?
Willie the Kid needed a riff, so he “borrowed” the beat from “White Rabbit”. Lyrics very NSFW, unless you work for Roc-a-Fella.
As I like White Rabbit I was prepared to be unhappy. But I like it.
Unfortunately like most pop music it is a victim of the Loudness Wars. It is highly compressed and has almost no dynamic range.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_warhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
JPop is especially vulnerable to this. You take a crappy singer record him or her singing softly and raise the vocals while simultaneously bringing down the volume of the instruments. Instant mud!
Its really not horrible, once you get past the ghetto-ness. Which is kinda what you’ll have with Willie the Kid.
Is it cultural appropriation when it is American culture that is appropriated?
https://youtu.be/3M4wxqoS3YI
I did like when MOP took Sam & Dave and made it THIS .
Plus, I really like Remy Ma.
I mean, Remy Ma .
+1 I like it as well.
As much as I like Busta, I prefer the original cut of Ante Up.
Remy just seems to add about…..twice as much
You don’t need a bun to eat a hot dog.
The opposite works, too.
https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/1024157617306968065
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Wow
Send them some aloe for THAT burn
I like that kid.
Russian Bot. Not a true hero like David Hogg.
My reaction.
That’s racist! Half of you reacted like this.
It was more like this, actually.
“To anyone who’s even passingly familiar with the way the social justice left talks, this is just clearly untrue. “White people” is a shorthand in these communities, one that’s used to capture the way that many whites still act in clueless and/or racist ways. It’s typically used satirically and hyperbolically to emphasize how white people continue to benefit (even unknowingly) from their skin color, or to point out the ways in which a power structure that favors white people continues to exist.
What makes these quasi-satirical generalizations about “white people” different from actual racism is, yes, the underlying power structure in American society. There is no sense of threat associated with Jeong making a joke about how white people have dog-like opinions. But when white people have said the same about minorities, it has historically been a pretext for violence or justification for exclusionary politics.
Jeong’s tweets, in context, clearly fit this type of rhetoric. When she writes “dumbass fucking white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants,” she is not, as Sullivan accuses her of doing, “equat[ing whites] with animals.” Rather, she is commenting on the ubiquity of (often uniformed) white opinion on social media — a way of pointing out how nonwhite voices often don’t appear or get drowned out in social media discourse.
Again, this is obvious to people who are steeped in the kind of online communities Jeong spends time in. But what happened, as my colleague Aja Romano notes, is that a few alt-right websites pulled out Jeong’s tweets in a deliberate attempt to hurt her career and reputation. What’s actually happening here is a racist movement, the alt-right, trying to damage a left-wing woman of color — and mainstream conservatives are furthering their narrative.
I don’t necessarily blame Sullivan and French for not hanging out on Social Justice Twitter, where their views would be … unwelcome, to say the least. What I do blame them for is joining an alt-right pile-on without trying to understand where their left-wing intellectual opponents are coming from and what they’re talking about.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/3/17648566/sarah-jeong-new-york-times-twitter-andrew-sullivan
This is some galaxy brain shit, even for Vox.
They’re like lawyers. Caught in a lie or in a tough spot they’ll just dissemble, obfuscate, distract and lie, lie, lie until the point is forgotten.
They know they got caught with their dick in your wife and they’re gonna do their damnedest to convince everyone it was someone else’s dick and someone else’s wife.
Still, the reading comprehension like an Aspie to gin up faux-outrage game is obnoxious when played by either the Left or the Right.
True.
Nah I think that her words are pretty true to her message here. These are not words out of context or sarcastic replies.
I don’t think HM is denying that….
It really doesn’t matter WTF she “meant”. No matter how you interpret it, she is participating in the left’s ongoing, explicit attempt to damage race relations in America.
Yup. But when the Left does it it’s for the greater good. Just ask them.
The Left seems to be big on this belief of retribution on descendants for bad things that their ethnic forefathers did… e.g. Wypipo enslaved bla’pipo, therefore, wypipo can never complain about racism again. Of course, this doesn’t apply to things like black South Africans murdering white farmers.
I mean, my dad got put in an internment camp by Democrat hero FDR, but you don’t see me demanding free shit from wypipo.
My grandpa might have built that camp but you’re getting nothing from me.
At no point have race relationships not been terrible in this country. Minorities vote on racial lines. Riots go back decades. The only real change is people’s naivete on the matter, which is probably a good thing. Everyone sticking their fingers in their ears and pretending everything is fine has not improved anything, only made it worse.
David Thompson explains the pathology:
An example of why I visit there regularly.
BREAKING: Matthew Yglesias is an asshole.
https://twitter.com/Sexismisme/status/1025601858998611969
Sorry, I know the thread’s on life support but this has kind of riled me up a little bit.
This is just bog-standard racism. That’s all it is. The Vox apologia is just saying that “white people” is slang for “white people”, essentially, but making it feel a little like the old “I don’t have a problem with black people, but I hate niggers” schtick.
And yes, as HM says, I also think it’s annoying when someone sees her remark about dogs peeing on hydrants and says, “Oh, she’s saying white people are animals!” It’s the same bullshit as when Roseanne Barr got taken down for saying Valerie Jarrett looked like she was from the Planet of the Apes. She didn’t say “Black people are monkeys”, ffs, she said she looks like the chimp scientist lady, because she does. She has the same damn haircut, for Pete’s sake.
Anyway, this is where “social justice” has led us. Media outlets are excusing racism on the basis of the race of the targets, i.e. justifying racism on racist grounds, and heads aren’t rolling. People can say in polite company that non-white people cannot be racist towards white people because white people are all, by virtue of the happenstance of their ethnicities, guilty forever of oppressions real or imagined so awful that they are from the moment of their births banished from the protection of right-thinking society. I never knew the man personally, but I don’t think that applying racism to fix racism was what Martin Luther King, Jr. had in mind.
Black People VS. Niggaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
They may not have more fun, but they’ll ruin your life just as readily.
http://archive.is/6pLfs
1, 14, 23, 27 and 28 are all part of a complete breakfast.
#5 ……jesus girl, lift much? What’s your number? I need some heavy shit moved around in the shop.
8 is going to stab you in the face with a spork.
So this just came across my news feed. Reports of a drone attack on Venezuela’s popularly elected president Maduro.
WHO COULD POSSIBLY HAVE DONE THIS?!
For the record; Maduro is a POS for torturing his people, however it’s not the US’s business to go around fixing other countries’ fuck ups.
Um…
Hence the “reports of a drone strike”. My first guesses would be coup attempt or false flag to attempt distraction.
Yeah, at this point it could be anything. Including nothing at all.
Somebody trying to get food
Sadly the Venezuelan populace has neither the means nor the calories to launch a drone attack on Maduro.
Totally cool how when everyone has 1080p video on their phones socialist utopia is still shooting news footage on Beta.
This dude is pretty amazing.
He has like 3 EPs out. I’ve yet to hear a single bad song. they’re also very well-crafted songs. Dude can sing like Stevie-meets-Jeff Buckley
I don’t know how quite to describe it. ‘soul pop’? its got some interesting mix of modern/retro-reference production styles. Bruno Mars does that shit all the time but i don’t like how much he simply bites some pop-style from 1987 then adds a new hook and calls it good. Its too cookie cutter. This feels more genuinely ‘inspired’ by old sounds, but far more original and sincere.
they’re mostly smooth crooner stuff, but there’s like 2 things in there with beats. this one i think gets some radio play
Does he write his own stuff?
One reason some of the stuff from the early days is good is division of labor. Not that there aren’t good singer and songwriters. But some folks should stick to one or the other… Here is looking at you Bob Dylan!
Bob Dylan was a great singer when he as young.
No idea.
I’m a huge soul-music fan, and i have 100s of records from the “factory system” of Motown + Philly-soul, where every act had a team of writers and producers, etc….0
…AND i have 100s from individual artists who just knocked off 3-4 great tunes then vanished into the ether. I don’t think one method is better than the other, but i do think people fail to realize how many great songs Holland-Dozier or Gamble-Huff were actually responsible for.
there actually IS a great deal of the “outside writers” stuff happening in todays ‘super-pop’ world. I’m talking the “Lady Gaga, Katie Perry, Taylor Swift, Adele” world of the last 10 years.
Max… whats his name… Swedish guy… he has written like 3 dozen top 40 hits in the US in the last 20 years.
Martin
This guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Martin
I think i understated his “top 40” impact. He’s probably written 100 or more that were in Billboard top 40. he pretty much churned out the entirety of the late 90s Boy-band + Britney spears+christina aguilera stuff. then he fell off for a short time in the early 2000s, then he basically reproduced his nonstop run of massive hits with a bunch of new starlets + pop bands.
I feel the same way. Sometimes the factory system makes great music.
That’s impressive. I hate modern pop with a passion but I can appreciate a good songwriter. Nevertheless I pretty much only listen to bands that write their own material.
I think the “outside writers” system was the norm in the early days of recording. I’ve listened to a ton of 1890s – 1940s music, and it seems like most of the time, the performers and writers were different people.
You had singers like Billy Murray, Ada Jones, Dan W. Quinn, Walter van Brunt, Harry MacDonough, Arthur Collins, Byron Harlan, and I don’t know if any of these individuals wrote a single one of their own songs.
Even into the ’30s, the song-writing (but non-performing) duo of Rodgers and Hart dominated the music scene. Cole Porter wrote tons of hit songs, but never performed any himself.
Absolutely.
until the late 1960s, it was totally unusual for a pop singer to write their own material. every singer was basically just a ‘performer’ doing other people’s catalog material.
same with everyone in the jazz world. 90% of records were just people playing ‘different versions of standards’. If people wrote 1-2 new songs per album, that was considered productive (then again, they’d do 2-3 albums a year)
the whole concept of the pop-writer-performer was basically stolen/evolved (unless i’m mistaken) from the folk thing of the early 60s. the idea of “These people are singing songs about RIGHT NOW! us! today!” which came out of that was so compelling that it spawned 1000s of bands saying, “fuck let’s write a few jingles and just jam a little and call it good”
the quality of music-writing wasn’t as super-sharp as cole porter … but it was fresh, and plus, sloppy playing was cool suddenly.
i wrote a letter to the NYT in the 1990s that got published that argued that the music world was basically moving back towards the 1940s-50s model of music being “producer driven” rather than artist driven. i still think this is the case now.
Except jazz is largely about performance and improvisation. John Coltrane’s Favorite Things has as much to do with The Sound of Music, as Penderecki’s Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima has to do with small-particle physics.
“”jazz is largely about performance and improvisation”‘
yes, but always within different frameworks. those frameworks changed constantly.
bird/dizzy-> miles/coltrane-> thelonius/mingus->–Don cherry/SunRa thing
(which yes, is oversimplified, buts the best rough outline i can muster on a whim)
The point is that composition wasn’t expected of “great performers” until the post-“Auteur” concept…
“Auteur-ism” … the idea that every performer is an “artist” , and that every artist is on the same plane… is really a sort of modern delusion. My argument is that there used to be much clearer distinctions and understandings by consumers and critics. And that a certain amount of sophistication and understanding about “how the sausage gets made” is somewhat lost in the consumer base since the 1990s.
Well, imho, not giving it much thought, because it;s late on a Saturday night. And I just misspelled both “misspelled” and “Saturday”. Is that is has to do with the advancement of technology. Jimi Hendrix had gear (and even stuff made for him by people like Roger Meyers) none of the turn of the century bluesman had access. This allowed him to create new sounds that didn’t have much to do with songwriting in the sense of assembling notes. Listen to Hear My Train A Comin’.
By the time you got into the 1990’s people were able to afford their own home studios, with all sorts of electronic shit.
It’s the Brian Eno idea that sound production is more textural than compositional. Techno and industrial are excellent examples of this.
Although, I think I understand what you are saying. How many songs did Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley write?
this is actually the nut of the thing, and the answer is ‘few’
but baby, style and performance is what makes an act an act!! and that fact never changed for ..
…ever.
that said – damn did those two have style.
Being a musical retard and listening to that he sounds like a more talented Miguel. Miguel being the one R&B artist I have bought based on NPR intro music (I actually do that quite a bit) I heard one day back in 2012. I do listen to that album every now and then. Back then, I thought Miguel would be the next Prince. Not that there can ever be another Prince.
yeah, R+B people are particularly disposable for some reason; there is always a lot of talent that goes through that genre, but the music tends to be so derivative and “IM UP IN THE CLUB DOIN MY THANG BABY WONT YOU LICK SOME ALIZE OFF MY CARTIER I GOT MY MONEY UP IN HERE YO IM A TUFF NIGGA BUT I GOT FEELINGS BOOOOO WHOOOEYEYEYE OOOOHHHH OHHHH”
there’s a slightly different genre of R+B that i suppose i’d call, “not so cliche ‘urban'” which has been doing very well. sometimes it sounds super-retro (like Leon Bridges first record, or much more poppy like his second record) … or there’s guys who add a little rock+roll/funk… basically, something other than the cookie cutter “808s and synths and slow jam bitches” R+B
I think the ‘just reproducing R.Kelly endlessly’ thing is a bad play. No diss on R. I’d let him piss on me.
Well, any genre has its derivations. Think of all the hard rock and metal bands.
Yes. some derivations go in fruitful new directions, some don’t.
what makes “now” interesting is the new artists going in new directions.
Hasn’t that always been the case?
For the past week here we have had hazy skies from fires in Oregon and CA, (so they said) and it made for some beautiful red sunrises. It has been like the first time I visited LA in the late 70’s and saw a giant red full moon at night. Today is the first day I can smell smoke in the air though and I keep thinking my house is on fire. There must be a new local fire. I watched this one https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/firefighters-watch-gunnison-gorge-wildfire-outbreak/article_c18dc51c-9090-11e8-ad17-10604b9ffe60.html from my back deck until last week. Interesting the BLM said it could help the ecosystem in the wilderness so they just let it burn. It is about time they took that approach.
They did much the same in the RFV. Kept it away from houses but let it burn.
If they did that for the past thirty years before most of the houses where there we would not have this problem now.
Evidently some almond milk is being recalled because there is some actual cow milk in the carton. I don’t know why, but I find that hilarious!
My guess is they were “bottled” on the same line and it wasn’t cleaned properly.
We need OMWC here to discuss what happens to the rabbi if the product was kosher to boot!
We circumcise him a second time.
And after that have a big party with lots of food?
l’chaim !
So like half an hour ago I was walking home from the store with two bags of groceries and my 4yo. We have to cross a small, two-lane, not particularly busy road, so I stop at the crosswalk and wait for a few cars to pass. Someone driving on the far side of the road decides to be “helpful” and stop at the crosswalk to let us cross.
(As an aside – I hate this, since it usually takes longer than if they just kept driving and I crossed when there were no cars, and it puts me on the spot and now I’m expected to cross quickly and pretend I’m grateful by giving them a friendly wave).
Anyways, before I can step out into the street, another car comes up behind that one and, without even slowing down, just drives around the stopped car and cruises through the crosswalk. Probably would have run us over if we’d been crossing from the other side, since I wouldn’t have seen them. Bastard.
My new heroes:
Elderly men escape nursing home to go to Wacken metal festival
So the new Mission Impossible movie is supposedly really good.