Thursday Afternoon Links

Is it Thursday already? Time flies on a tequila and meth bender. I’m a little surprised to find myself in the county and state in which I reside. Used to be I’d end up at least two states away, possibly in an ER. Getting old is Hell.

The fucking French cops are just killing it at the TdF this year.

In case you have any doubt that Florida is the Australia of North America. Hookworms look like a real bitch. Let this be a lesson to you. Do not get buried in the sand at the beach. You never know what kind of kitty has been using it as their sandbox. (Hey, I checked — according to the article these are animal and not human hookworms — don’t blame Florida Man for shitting on the beach)

This is a big fucking disaster. At first I was kind of meh about it. Everybody was an asshole here. On reflection, I think you should have to convince a jury that your actions were reasonable. I don’t know what I would do if some random Florida Man was yelling at my wife as she was getting out of our car when I came out of a store. I happen to read the current law the same way as the local sheriff — if the shooter never threatened the woman with force, SYG still applies — although had the man who was shot drawn a gun and used it, it isn’t clear to me that such a shooting wouldn’t also be covered by having reasonable fear for his wife’s safety or life.

It’s good to see the Evangelicals joining the woke. I’m really glad the first two times I met my wife, mutual friends were able to provide character references. I really can’t imagine doing it any other way. (Note: the article is a tongue in cheek reaction to an even more fun article. Go on down that rabbit hole if you dare.)

Amazon facial recognition tool “wrongly” identifes 28 Congresscritters as police suspects. Does anyone else think 5% is a little low?

I’m no robophobe, but these are some creepy damn shots of sex dolls being manufactured (NSFW Warning: robot boobies below the fold. Do not scroll if your boss wouldn’t like robotits)

 

I’ve decided to expand my musical horizons today. I hope HM will be proud.

Comments

354 responses to “Thursday Afternoon Links”

  1. Tres Cool

    You’d think the french cops would just toss a truncheon in their spokes, like in Breaking Away.

    1. Tres Cool

      Well, italians . Close enough.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Ha. I liked that movie.

        1. slumbrew

          That’s because you have good taste – that is one of the all-time great sports movies and is criminally underrated.

          (maybe not _underrated_ – Rotten Tomatoes has it at 94% – but it just doesn’t get mentioned nearly as much as it should)

  2. ChipsnSalsa

    The fucking French cops are just killing it at the TdF this year.

    not quite, but close.

    1. F. Stupidity Jr.

      Too soon?

        1. Tres Cool

          Too much telephone hour ?

        2. I was thinking of Ann Savage getting it in Detour, but the exact scene isn’t on Youtube in standalone form. It’s just after this one. The whole movie is on Youtube since it’s in the public domain, but I’m not going to look through the whole damn movie just to get the proper time for that one scene.

          1. You reminded me of this song.

          2. Tres Cool

            Nice.

          3. Count Potato

            There is also the original:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emy5mA8Ixtc

          4. egould310

            Thank you. I know it’s a dead thread, but I would have posted The Nerves as well. Great power pop.

            I hate Blondie. Awful music. Just awful.

    2. Tres Cool

      You get crazy women with phone cords, we have the prosecutor giving HJs to PubSec and picking a fight with OPERS.

    3. Blue days, black nights
      I look into the sky (the love you need ain’t gonna see you through)
      And I wonder why (the little things you planned ain’t comin’ true)
      Oh, oh, telephone line, give me some time, I’m living in twilight
      Oh, oh, telephone line, give me some time, I’m living in twilight

      Okay, so no one’s answering
      Well, can’t you just let it ring a little longer
      Longer, longer oh, I’ll just sit tight
      Through shadows of the night
      Let it ring forever more, oh

  3. Does anyone else think 5% is a little low?

    Well, it did say “police suspects” “mugshots” – now, if it had said “criminals” – 99% would be about right.

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      True. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

  4. Florida Man

    blame Florida Man for shitting on the beach

    Well, not THAT beach anyways..

  5. trshmnstr

    It’s good to see the Evangelicals joining the woke.

    The trick is to get fat AFTER the wedding.

    /gained 70 lbs after 8 months of marriage

    1. Microaggressor

      Funny article, but damn, the comments section killed a few brain cells.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Chicks are really into guys with big bulges in their pants.

      They practically cream themselves when they see some guy’s back pocket bursting with a big fat wallet.

  6. Dr. Fronkensteen

    “There is no distinctly American criminal class – except Congress.”

    – Mark Twain

  7. Florida Man

    IRT the shooting. From the video I saw I couldn’t tell if the guy was yelling or talking to the woman. Regardless i wouldn’t have pulled the trigger. When he drew the gun, the guy backed off.

    1. Raston Bot

      I won’t condemn the shooter in this scenario because the lady was parked in a handicapped spot, he was elderly, the guy who knocked him down to the pavement was much younger and stronger. After he knocked him down he was still aggressive. If he turned his back and got in the car, then I’d say bad shoot but he stayed close and could’ve easily started beating the guy while he was on the ground. Also, with a knockdown like that, that old brain was probably rattled. Stress and adrenaline certainly pumping through him. He drew and the guy put his hands to his waistband on either side of his hips. We know now he wasn’t drawing but he did just assault the old guy.

      Lesson Learned: DON’T ASSAULT STRANGERS OVER WORDS

      1. PBRstreetgang

        Elderly?? He’s 47.

        1. Raston Bot

          that’s practically AARP dead!

        2. PBRstreetgang

          47 is younger than Dave Matthews…. oh wait nevermind.

        3. Fuck, that’s ten years younger than me.

      2. Brett L

        Or, you know, mind your own fucking business when the lady says she’s just letting her kid use the bathroom.

        1. PBRstreetgang

          Yes, this right here. Its kind of annoying when someone who gives off no appearance of being handicapped parks in a HC spot, but if you want to bitch people out for minor infractions join the police.

          1. Florida Man

            There are people that are handicapped but look physically normal. I have a cousin that looks pretty normal and young, but because of an autoimmune issue he has severe arthritis. He can walk, but he starts to hurt after walking long distances. Either way, it’s not some random guys job to sort it out.

        2. Raston Bot

          i read the kid was in the car and saw the shooting.

          1. Brett L

            At some point, both the husband and boy were inside the store together. You can watch the videos if you want. I highly recommend you watch the shooting one. It sure didn’t leave me feeling like I would have been in fear for my life.

          2. Florida Man

            Pissed? Sure. In fear for my life? Not really, unless the guy made a move towards me again.

          3. Raston Bot

            I’ve seen the one several times. From our perspective, you can tell he’s backing off. But if I were on the ground b/c the guy just put me there.. maybe I could not be so sure the threat had diminished.

      3. Dr. Fronkensteen

        The shooter was 47. Not elderly. And get off of my lawn.

      4. Florida Man

        Another lesson. Mind your own business. They parked in the handicapped spot. If it’s such a big deal, call the police.

        1. Raven Nation

          Oh sure, then everyone gets shot.

          /sarc (sort of)

      5. DesigNate

        I see people park in the handicap spot all the time that don’t have tags. I just don’t understand the need to get all bitchy and verbally berate the person so I just mutter “asshole” under my breath.

    2. Hyperion

      “Regardless i wouldn’t have pulled the trigger. When he drew the gun, the guy backed off.”

      The entire thing is pretty fucked up was my initial impression. First of all, we have a guy who is an apparent asshole who is staking out a parking lot somehow making himself the parking police. Then we have the guy shoving him on the ground, which is a pretty much overreaction to an argument, even if it was his wife/gf. Then the asshole guy draws his weapon but when realizes the guy is no longer a threat, still fires his weapon. There’s no clear cut case here, but I almost have to go with asshole pretend parking lot police here as being at fault. Still doesn’t negate stand your ground, as it’s apparent the guy’s mode was not clearly self defense when he fired. Take this to trial and forget about activists who think they can change entire laws because someone is an asshole.

  8. whiz

    These matches were disproportionately people of color, according to the ACLU. Some 39 percent were African-American and Latino lawmakers, versus 20 percent who identify as a person of color in Congress, the ACLU said.

    So apparently Amazon’s Rekognition program has the same problem differentiating people of color that wypipo have.

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      That’s ReKKKognition.

      1. Darn you…beat me to it.

    2. Slammer

      Rekognition dindu nuffin’, he’s a nice algorithm who’s turning his life around and staying in school

  9. The Late P Brooks

    Sometimes a price increase is not inflation

    Now for the really troubling news: If tariffs cause price increases to accelerate, the most natural outcome will be for the Federal Reserve to step up its cycle of raising interest rates. For the most part, the Fed has been sanguine about inflation. Policy makers still are concerned that the economic recovery is fragile, and as a result they have favored moving very slowly on rate increases.

    If we wind up with significant commodity inflation, though, here is how events might unfold.

    I don’t consider Ritholtz a complete idiot, despite his liberal political leanings, but it irks the bejeezis out of me when people conflate price shocks with inflation. I come from the “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon” school of thought. Those tariffs, if they happen, won’t be inflation. If the idiots at the Federal reserve loosen the monetary spigot to “help save” the economy, that will be inflation.

  10. The Other Kevin

    The finished sex doll looks like a life sized American Girl doll. Would not.

    1. Tres Cool

      Maybe amazon used software from Veridian Dynamics ?

      (did I ever mention how much I miss the show ‘Better Off Ted’?)

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Totally underrated show. No idea how that got made for normie tv. Loved every second of it.

  11. R C Dean

    amend the state’s “stand your ground” law to prevent the person shown to be the aggressor in a confrontation from claiming immunity.

    That’s been my problem with SYG statutes; they don’t always distinguish between the initial aggressor and the victim. Which is pretty fundamental for a self-defense law.

    The video shows Jacobs stepping out of the car just as McGlockton rushes out of the store and then shoves Drejka to the ground. In response, Drejka pulls a gun out of his pocket.

    McGlockton appears to back off, and Drejka shoots him once. McGlockton later died at the hospital due to a gunshot wound to the chest, police said.

    According to Gualtieri, the video does appear to show Drejka protecting himself as the state’s “stand your ground” law allows, and his agency does not have an authority to make an arrest “unless we have probable cause that the person committed a crime.”

    In my book, McGlockton is the aggressor since he pushed Drejka, and at that point Drejka has the right to defend himself without first retreating (“stand your ground”). However, once McGlockton backed off, he stopped being the aggressor, and Drejka stopped having the right to defend himself. If someone backs out of a fight, you don’t get to chase them down to put a beating on them – that’s not self-defense. And, of course, shooting someone who is backing away should never be allowed. I don’t think the SYG law says “if someone shoves you to the ground, you have an open-ended license to blow their head off whenever you get around to it”.

    1. Florida Man

      Agreed.

    2. Brett L

      Its not clear to me that McGlockton was or was not retreating before the gun came out. I’ll give them that. He certainly was not pressing the assault any farther. From McGlockton’s view, he comes out of the store and some guy is yelling at his woman and she’s obviously upset enough to be getting out of the car. Its not entirely clear to me that a reasonable person wouldn’t intervene in that situation.

      I think the law should be written in such a way that a case like this goes at least before a grand jury. I understand what they were trying to solve by legislating a bench hearing, but I don’t think it has been solved in the interest of justice.

      1. Raston Bot

        the conspiracy theory is that the sheriff is anti-2A and is deliberately claiming his hands are tied to get SYG reformed.

        1. R C Dean

          I’m pro-2A, and I think a SYG law that gives allows the aggressor to claim self-defense needs to be reformed. Otherwise, you have a scenario where a mugger tries to rob you, you land a punch, he guns you down, and he walks on the murder charge because he was just “standing his ground”.

          Now, I dunno if FL’s SYG law is that badly written, but if it is, it needs fixing.

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Is the issue that SYG laws are poorly written, or is that self-defense situation are hard to adjudicate?

            Because I watch a lot of football. Listening to a partisan talk about a dirty hit or a ref’s screw job, and then watching it with my own eyes makes me think fast, confusing, violent action just isn’t terribly comparable with simple narrative.

          2. R C Dean

            Is the issue that SYG laws are poorly written, or is that self-defense situation are hard to adjudicate?

            Probably both, with badly written laws making inherently difficult cases even harder to sort out.

            SYG laws were supposed to be the antidote to asinine “duty to retreat” cases and laws, and also (possibly) the burden of proof (which is traditionally on the defendant). They aren’t supposed to change the fundamentals – for lethal self-defense, you are supposed to reasonably fear that you or someone else is in imminent danger of death or serious injury, etc.

          3. Brett L

            No, the problem in this one is similar to the Trayvon Martin case. One person comes in, starts an argument, makes another person feel uncomfortable, won’t back off. Person two instead of calling the police or walking away pushes the person one to the ground. Person one now fears for his life. Maybe reasonably, maybe not. The law says that the prosecutor must go before a judge before pressing charges and keeping the shooter in custody, and produce evidence that the person could not reasonable fear for his or her life at a bench hearing. The conflict is between having “no duty to retreat” and at what point a conversation a person initiates becomes a confrontation. If I say “hi” to you and you push me down to mug me — but don’t declare your intention, how do we differentiate that from you kept hectoring me about that parking space, I lost my temper and shoved you down? There’s an obvious difference, but it would be hard to craft a statute.

            I think they should just get rid of the bench hearing requirement.

      2. R C Dean

        Its not entirely clear to me that a reasonable person wouldn’t intervene in that situation.

        It may suck, but if you are the first person lay hands on someone else, you’re the aggressor, no matter how heated the verbal confrontation might be. A “reasonable” person intervenes verbally in an argument, not by shoving someone. ProTip: If you really, really want to beat the shit of someone, bait them into making the first move.

      3. Grumbletarian

        It’s quite possible to intervene without immediately shoving someone to the ground.

    3. Hyperion

      Yup.

    4. Spartacus

      Well, the legislature made it worse this year too, by shifting the burden to the prosecution to show that it’s *not* self-defense.
      To me, once it is established that the death is a homicide, the burden of proving self-defense ought to be on the shooter. Now the shooter just has to utter the magic self-defense claim and then it’s up to the prosecutor to rebut that. Maybe they didn’t feel like they could do it in this case.

  12. trshmnstr

    Continuing the Civil War thread from the last post, three points to add.

    1) I still think there are only two things that would kick off a civil war, massive national gun control legislation or trump being impeached on obviously trumped up charges.
    2) it’s seriously concerning how often a civil war is mentioned these days. It makes me think it may be inevitable.
    3) there’s one main difference between the original Civil War and the potential brewing one. Back then, even though they fought bitterly and the rebels were steamrolled, there was a certain reluctance that allowed the country to be stitched back together in the end. I don’t think the mutual respect that existed back then exists today. I think the ferocity of a war today would be on par with if Hirohito had shown up in Las Angeles with 100,000 troops.

    1. Florida Man

      I don’t see how the armies would form. Back then the south and north were separated both culturally and geographically. The division today is philosophical. Even “blue cities” aren’t homogeneous. How would the US military and police be involved? I think there are too many moving parts for anything more than a few riots.

      1. Chipwooder

        I agree with you for the most part, but a lot of that was true in the Balkans in the 1990s and it made for a particularly horrifying conflict.

        1. Florida Man

          There is a reason I keep well armed. I hope I’m right, but I’m prepared to be wrong.

          1. Chipwooder

            You’ll get a lot further with a gun and a kind word than just a kind word.

          2. JaimeRoberto

            Like I always say, make love not war, but be prepared for both. I learned that from a t-shirt I saw in Croatia in the 90s.

        2. PBRstreetgang

          I think the US is overall to rich and comfy for an all out armed conflict. We’ll see plenty of Proud Boy v. Antifa slap fights, but armed conflict with loads of dead bodies? Nah. Deep down we all know we’ve got it far too good for that.

          1. Chipwooder

            Ultimately that’s the way I lean, too – there aren’t nearly enough people who would be ready and willing to both kill AND die for their cause. Too much to lose.

          2. R C Dean

            Same here. But once the genie is out of the bottle, escalation is going to be a stone-cold bitch.

          3. Tundra

            Agreed. I think things were waaaaaay worse 50 years ago: assassinations, home-grown terrorists, hijackings, etc. etc. etc.

            1968 was a crazy fucked up year. But we moved on.

          4. PBRstreetgang

            Yeah, whenever I start to lean towards the reality of a civil war, I realize the Antifa people NEVER go after real Nazis. They don’t track the Aryan Brotherhood or the Nazi Low Riders that might involve actual danger. Instead they find some shlub in MAGA hat and crack him with a bike lock. That way they can pretend to be fighting Nazis while experiencing very little risk of actual harm.

          5. Chipwooder

            Precisely. They’re real tough guys….when they have numbers on their side and harmless opponents. We’d see how tough the Black Hoodie Brigade would be when squaring off with heavily armed militias, most of whose members either have military experience or much firearm proficiency, or both, and some of whom will have a fair bit of actual combat experience. As friends of mine who fought in Somalia and Iraq can attest, marksmanship matters – while antifa types might have firearms too, I can knock you on your ass from 500 yards away, and I am only average-to-below average by Marine Corps standards.

          6. Mustang

            They just need to think they have nothing left to lose. The way the left talks and acts these days, they may be on the verge of convincing themselves they really have nothing to lose. If everyone is a bourgeois capitalist racist xenophobic woman/self-hating pig, then it could be pretty easy for your average moron to think “everyone is against me, I have nothing to lose by starting violence.”

          7. PBRstreetgang

            There certainly are individuals they might feel that way and you may see a guy or a group of two or three do something drastic , maybe like a TIm McVeigh type of thing. But there aren’t nearly enough of them to do structural harm. The vast, overwhelming majority are not going to risk their craft IPAs, FortNite standing, smartphones and beard oil because some yokel in Arkansas is a racist. It simply is not going to happen.

          8. Rasilio

            And if the dollar totally collapses like we all know it could?

            Imagine Trump wins re-election in another close race where he loses the popular vote but wins the EC by a slim margin. At the same time Dems take control of the house and start making a case for impeachment. 2 years later the impeachment is looming and it is they #1 issue in the midterms.

            In the meantime Antifa has been stepping up it’s game attacking not just borderline alt right groups but pretty much any gathering of Trump supporters or evangelicals it can and more general conservative groups get pulled in going so far as to send armed guards to each gathering to protect what the cops won’t.

            In the middle of the election some promise keeper types shoot and kill a handful of antifa attacking a Republican political rally. The cops try to arrest them for murder but find themselves in an armed standoff with citizens protecting the shooters. The political stress is the last straw for the US economy it collapses even more than it did in 29. For a couple of weeks the Fed tries to prop up the financial system with gimmicks like they have in the past but it isn’t working a couple of too big to fail banks have already collapsed and more are on the verge. Worse the financial shock is threatening to take down several large integrated corporations with finance arms like GE so the treasury does the only thing it can do, cranks up the printing presses to 11. In the next 2 weeks the official inflation index hits 100% per year, the real inflation index is closer to 300% annually and it shows no signs of slowing down.

            Election day rolls around in the middle of this chaos with Democrats rushing to get articles of impeachment drawn up and Republicans trying to delay them until after the new Congress is seated and both the right wing militia types and ANTI FA send large armed contingents to polling locations in major cities to “ensure there is no intimidation” of the voters on their side. One thing leads to another and there is violence at many of them with the death toll on the day standing at over 100 and polls having to have been closed early as a result.

            Both sides declare the election results are invalid and there is no legitimate Congress to seat in January.

            From there actual armies start forming.

            Not saying this kind of scenario WILL happen but it certainly could along with many more than result in open warfare between multiple factions in the US

      2. Gadfly

        The division today is philosophical.

        So, like the Spanish Civil War, Russian Civil War, and Finnish Civil War.

        1. Florida Man

          I haven’t read about those wars. Reading about the US civil war reads more like hostilities between foreign powers. Regardless, I still don’t see how “armies” would form. Progressives are in blue dense islands. Conservatives in diffuse states. Where would the battlelines be drawn? Supply lines? Is the US military sitting it out? The police? I’m not saying it’s impossible, I just don’t see millions of Americans forming into 2 distinct armies.

          1. Mojeaux

            I see it as a guerrilla war, possibly with nighttime excursions from outlying red areas into unarmed blue strongholds when they’re sleeping.

          2. Florida Man

            Wouldn’t that be more of a purge than a war?

          3. Mojeaux

            potaytoes potahtoes

          4. Mustang

            You don’t need those things to start a war. They’ll form up eventually when people start to form alliances and seek out help.

          5. Gadfly

            Where would the battlelines be drawn? Supply lines? Is the US military sitting it out? The police?

            The answers to the first two questions would be “everywhere”, and the answers to the last to would be “they would divide and participate”. I think you are right that it would be nothing like the US Civil War, but there are plenty of examples of ideological civil wars that had divisions based on class/philosophy and not geography. I would also add the German Revolution (1918) to the list I gave earlier.

        1. Enough About Palin

          For the most part, all the Red folks would have to do is drive the Blue folks into the sea.

        2. Florida Man

          I live in a pink island inside a blue island inside a Red Sea.

        3. grrizzly

          I live in the zip code where Trump got 8.1% and work in the one where he got 4.7%.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Fuck progressives. They’re mentally ill and illiterate retards.

      And that’s me being nice.

      1. Hyperion

        You’re being way too nice, these idiots are a threat to all the real human progress that has been made for the last several millennia and to rational civilization, period. They’re a fucking disease, a plague to end all plagues.

        1. The way the left Hyperion talks and acts these days, they may be on the verge of convincing themselves they really have nothing to lose. If everyone is a bourgeois capitalist racist xenophobic woman/self-hating pig a fucking disease, a plague to end all plagues, then it could be pretty easy for your average moron to think “everyone is against me, I have nothing to lose by starting violence.”

          1. Hyperion

            Well, I accept all blame when they lose again and start blowing up polling places. If I hadn’t stated the truth about them, and they would have never known it, that never would have happened.

          2. And when the Right loses? (and they will sooner or later) will Mustang’s warning about the hysteria on the left apply to the Breitbart crowd? Will you accept any blame for fanning the flames of right wing kooks?

          3. Hyperion

            I’ll let you know when I see this degree of lunacy from the ‘right wing kooks’, and you know, it includes complete media collusion.

    3. Hyperion

      “1) I still think there are only two things that would kick off a civil war, massive national gun control legislation or trump being impeached on obviously trumped up charges.”

      It totally eludes me as to why any intelligent person could believe that overturning an election on bullshit, basically a sourpuss coup attempt by Clinton INC, would not create a serious national crisis. But it definitely would. Democrats have gotten to the point that not only do they not seem to care if they destroy the rule of law, but do not even care if they create some sort of catastrophic civil war. I think the only way out of it is if they get soundly thrashed at the ballot box for the next 6-8 years. Otherwise, I do not have a good feeling about this.

      My take is that the elite who put this coup attempt together, their intention is to create enough turmoil and doubt to throw the midterms to the democrats. The problem is that they have unleashed a lot of crazy and that cannot be easily, if at all, contained.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Amazon facial recognition tool “wrongly” identifes 28 Congresscritters as police suspects. Does anyone else think 5% is a little low?

    [insert Mark Twain “native criminal class” quote]

    1. Tres Cool

      Ill just put this HERE since I seem to mis-threaded above. This is what sobriety gets me.

      Maybe amazon got their software from Veridian Dynamics

      1. Chipwooder

        Better Off Ted was awesome. Such a shame it didn’t catch on.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    I see Dr Fronkensteen was way ahead of me.

  15. Chipwooder

    I see Q’s order is right at the front of the line at Sex Dolls ‘R Us

    1. Warty

      LEMME SEE THEM ROBOT TITTTAYYYYYYYS BIOTCH

    2. Los Doyers

      Blow-up doll tits, like tires, are best when filled up with nitrogen.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        This again…air is 70% Nitrogen. The other 30% isn’t going to lead to leaky tits.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Continuing the Civil War thread from the last post, three points to add.

    1) I still think there are only two things that would kick off a civil war, massive national gun control legislation or trump being impeached on obviously trumped up charges.

    I missed it, but my gut feeling is the only way a civil war is possible is if one side truly believes they have nothing to lose, and we’re a long, long way from that point.

    I could, of course, be wrong.

    1. trshmnstr

      The reason that those two scenarios make my list is because they’re the two scenarios remotely within reason that make it blatantly clear to everybody that we’re living in a post-constitutional Era. However, perhaps I underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance.

    2. Suthenboy

      You may have to reassess after november. If the dems are crushed, which I suspect may happen, the political establishment types on the left may try to stir the shit enough to get blood in the streets. See: Auntie Maxine.

      1. trshmnstr

        I don’t think the left will ever have the provisions necessary to wage war. They may fire the first shot, but the only way a war starts is of the right is goaded into it, either through oppressive leftist or through a widespread breakdown of civil order. The LA riots are about as bad as the left can get.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          I don’t think the left will ever have the provisions necessary to wage war

          You underestimate how much institutional support violent lefties have always received in this country. I don’t see any reason for that to change.

        2. Chipwooder

          They simply lack the arms, training, and expertise to be effective over the long haul. I know they like to think that the US Army and Marines will follow their orders, but they are sadly mistaken if they think the deplorables who make up the bulk of the ranks (not the officers, though) are going to fall in line. IF a shooting war started, a whole lot of servicemen are going to be fighting against them.

          1. Creosote Achilles

            Yea and the city boy ringknocker officer that gives the order to fire on Americans learns that F. R. A. G spells “yo woke ass is dead”

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Esequiel Hernández sez “Hi”, along with Abdulrahman al-Awlaki.

          3. Creosote Achilles

            Oh yes, because those two incidents are exactly like ordering troops to fire on Americans in a large group, waving American flags, on American soil.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            It just points to the willingingness of Americans to fire upon fellow Americans. All it takes is the proper framing.

            And presumptive felons resisting lawful authority is just about there from the start.

        3. Gadfly

          I think a second civil war, if it happens, would play out similarly to the Spanish Civil War – a leftist government versus a rightist military/militia, with various outside support bolstering the different sides.

  17. Michael

    I’m pretty certain there’s a joke in here somewhere about Kennedy thoughts resonating in Texas, but my last threadbare shred of human decency is preventing me from finding it.

    https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1022504854953119745

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      “El Beto” – an Ivy League educated white irish guy.

      Consider it stolen.

    2. Still obsessed with the fucking Kennedys.

    3. Chipwooder

      I think it’s precious that they really think this is going to happen, much like Wendy Davis and her pink sneakers were going to turn Texas blue.

    4. Raston Bot

      I have to assume that writer travels in circles where Chappaquiddick is never mentioned.

    5. PBRstreetgang

      I think Phony Beto Mania has bitten the dust.

      1. slumbrew

        I shouldn’t encourage you, but that was pretty good.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    I won’t condemn the shooter in this scenario because the lady was parked in a handicapped spot, he was elderly, the guy who knocked him down to the pavement was much younger and stronger. After he knocked him down he was still aggressive. If he turned his back and got in the car, then I’d say bad shoot but he stayed close and could’ve easily started beating the guy while he was on the ground.

    I have intentionally avoided following this story, but I will say this: I’m fucked up. I could very well be one headbutt away from being a quadriplegic. If some random asshole latched onto me I might very well respond with lethal force right out of the gate.

  19. Rufus the Monocled

    I’m just gonna put it out there. It IS kinda weird how all of a sudden after over 100 years of cycling a country with a pedestrian cycling pedigree all of a sudden have cyclists dominating the sport. I understand the UK poured money into the sport but it’s still a little eye brow raising.

    As for the Tour, it’s been over 15 years Vuelta and especially Giro have been far better races.

    1. Brett L

      So I guess we know which company has the best designer PEDs right now.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Asthma jokes abound in the cycling community.

      2. Florida Man

        I would like to see an unrestricted sport class, where the best chemist win.

          1. Chipwooder

            That’s gotta be a disappointment for the big Russian!

          2. Florida Man

            Lol

          3. slumbrew

            I think tomorrow he’s really gonna feel that.

          4. Raston Bot

            the guy dabbing with the hankie is a nice touch.

      3. Winded

        Not that anybody thinks PEDs were involved (heh) but today marks the 35th anniversary of the oldest world record in track & field–Jarmila Kratochvilova running 1:53.28 in the women’s 800 meters. Only two others have even gone under 1:55 in the 21st century.

          1. Raston Bot

            ^cameltoe warning!

          2. Florida Man

            Uh, I think that’s a penis.

          3. Raston Bot

            macroclit

        1. Nobody’s broken Stefka Kostadinova’s high-jump record, either.

          I love how non-busy that broadcast is.

          1. Raston Bot

            like Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps, that lady looks genetically predisposed to succeed at her event.

          2. Winded

            Spoiler alert for tomorrow…that will be the 25th anniversary of the only Cuban world record still on the books, Javier Sotomayor’s slightly over 8 foot high jump (2.45 meters.) That’s somebody who actually served a PED suspension later in his career, as well as one for a positive cocaine test (maybe that’s a PED too?)

          3. I’ve mentioned it before, but tennis player Larisa Neiland failed a doping test for… caffeine.

  20. Tundra

    *listens for a moment, hits mute, enjoys the rest of the video*

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    Trudeau hasn’t been seen since the shooting. Usually by now, he says something retarded.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      I’m also noticing the latest spin on these attacks: Blame mental illness.

      They did that with the guy who murdered people with his van. Now they did it again with the shooter.

      This raises red flags for me.

      1. Chipwooder

        And guns, naturally. The mayor of Toronto has been channeling Bloomberg.

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        Its also stupid. Like, oh, he was crazy? Well, no crazy person ever joined a terror organization. I’d have to be 100% sane to do that. Yeah, so, not motivated by any particular ideology or religion, because that’s mutually exclusive with mental illness.

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        Looks like he was known to intelligence agencies. Canada did nothing. We’re full blown UK it’s looking like more and more.

        https://twitter.com/shanifanasser/status/1021512091335905288

      4. Are you mentally ill?

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          I’m here aren’t I?

          I mean, we’re libertarian, right?

      5. Mustang

        Had this argument with my proggy brother.

        “Well, if they have a mental illness, we should consider limiting their firearm access.”

        “A few years ago everyone knew gender dysmorphia was a mental illness. Now it seems up for a debate. There are at least two people in this room who could be considered ‘mentall ill’ depending on what definition they settle on. Tell me, with such shifting ideas of what constitutes ‘mental illness,’ who defines it? Why should they be allowed to limit a tranny’s right to defend themselves? Politicians? You despise them as much as I do!”

        “…”

        Might be the first time he’s ever conceded a point to me…

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Again. The fact that ‘mental illness’ is being scapegoated should make people think.

          You can’t keep blaming it.

        2. Mustang

          *dysphoria, blech

          *Grabs more coffee

      6. JaimeRoberto

        I wouldn’t be surprised if he was mentally ill, but ISIS or whatever gave him the license to carry out something he was thinking of doing.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    You may have to reassess after november. If the dems are crushed, which I suspect may happen, the political establishment types on the left may try to stir the shit enough to get blood in the streets. See: Auntie Maxine.

    There are a lot of delusional imbeciles out there in the twattersphere weeping inconsolably about “Muh democraceee!” but I don’t see many of them taking up arms. Not unless mom and dad evict them and cancel their credit cards. Where would they establish their insurrectionist capitol, San Francisco?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      ‘Here is where I shall take a standdump.’

  23. Tundra

    Those sex dolls really are creepy. Even the robotitties.

  24. UGH.

    FUCK OFF BURGER KING.

    1. Tundra

      Christ.

      Not that any woman reading this needs a reminder, but the pathetic reality is that products and services marketed to women are typically priced much higher than the same ones marketed to men. Razors, deodorant, dry cleaning, and even kids toys — the “women’s version” of each is marked up, on average, about 42% more than the men’s version.

      Fucking supply and demand, how does it work?

      1. R C Dean

        products and services marketed to women are typically priced much higher than the same ones marketed to men.

        Well, buy the men’s stuff, if you don’t want to pay for the women’s version. And if the women’s version just works better for women and you prefer it, then don’t cry about paying more for a product you value more.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          When discussing this with my sister, I pointed out nothing was compelling her to buy the women’s version. if the shampoo is the same, they’ll keep selling the more expensive version so long as somebody keeps buying it.

          1. Mojeaux

            If my hair could survive Suave, I’d buy Suave.

            I have to buy awesomely expensive shampoo and conditioner to deal with the mess that is my hair.

          2. Hyperion

            So TOS is selling Robby? But why would you want to buy him? He can’t even change a tire? What use could he be?

          3. Hyperion

            Damnit, I had almost forgotten about that abomination and you ruined it. What’s next, you going to start posting Salt-N-Pepa tunes from the 90s?

          4. Mojeaux

            You’re the one who brought up Rico Suave, not me.

          5. Mojeaux

            Okay, okay. I was wrong to do that to you. Nobody should have to endure that. I apologize. I posted this yesterday. Enjoy!

          6. Hyperion

            I didn’t bring up Robby, you said you wanted to buy him! I am so not clicking on that.

          7. Mojeaux

            No, for real, it’s a nice song.

          8. mexican sharpshooter

            I have to buy awesomely expensive shampoo and conditioner to deal with the mess that is my hair.

            That’s exactly my point . The products are obviously not identical, thus the difference in price. Use what works for you of course.

          9. Mojeaux

            I was agreeing with you.

          10. mexican sharpshooter

            and I’m sure your hair is fantastic.

          11. Hyperion

            All I want to know is how women can use so much shampoo? What the hell are they doing with it? Every time we go to Walmart to do monthly or more typically bi-weekly household shopping, my wife spends like $100 on shampoo. WTF? That’s not even counting the really expensive stuff she buys online? $100 in shampoo would last me for years. What the hell is going on?

          12. Mojeaux

            Does she color her hair? Does she perm it? Does she swim a lot? Does she have kinky/dry/coarse hair? Does she have long hair? Does she have thick hair? Does she have thin hair? Do you live in a place with a lot of humidity?

            You could damage my coarse, dry, brittle, very thick hair by looking at it wrong, never mind I color it and I swim. Good shampoo, good conditioner. Ain’t cheap.

          13. Hyperion

            Does she color her hair? Infrequently. Every few months?

            Does she perm it? No.

            Does she swim a lot? No.

            Does she have kinky/dry/coarse hair? No.

            Does she have long hair? It’s pretty long right now.

            Does she have thick hair? Not as thick as it used to be, we’re old now. But it’s really soft and pretty. I guess it should be for $100+ of shampoo a month.

            Does she have thin hair? Not really, again, we’re old

            Do you live in a place with a lot of humidity? Yes, at least most of the year.

          14. Lackadaisical

            She is just making sure you never retire.

          15. Hyperion

            That was already never going to happen. Well, at least not for another 10 years.

        2. Breet Pharara

          I remember reading an interesting article about Gillette and how much money they sink into razor design. Basically, men need small, curvier areas with coarse hair, while women need larger areas of thinner, finer hair, with bonus points for generally using it in the shower vs in front of a mirror.

          Also, when I had really long hair I had to switch to women’s shampoo because my hair kept getting ratty if I used the men’s stuff. Don’t know why, but anecdotally the shampoos are different.

          So, men and women ask these products to do different things, and the women’s things are often harder. Blame nature, not the companies or sexism.

      2. Women account for 85% of consumer purchases.

        https://girlpowermarketing.com/statistics-purchasing-power-women/

        Maybe stop being such an easy marketing target and buy the cheaper, generic shit.

    2. The Other Kevin

      You can say the same thing about wedding-related items. A simple book or pen, with “wedding” stamped on the package suddenly makes the price jump. The solution is to just by the normal items and slap a ribbon or a sticker on it. If the “female” version of any product costs more, there’s no reason not to just buy the “male” version.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Aren’t they the ones who picked a side in the net neutrality crap?

      Obviously sticking to cooking burgers is too fucking hard.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    I think the US is overall to rich and comfy for an all out armed conflict. We’ll see plenty of Proud Boy v. Antifa slap fights, but armed conflict with loads of dead bodies? Nah. Deep down we all know we’ve got it far too good for that.

    Exactly. Everybody has too much to lose.

  26. No faces, just tits.

    http://archive.is/qYudP

    As G-d intended.

    1, 6 and 23 definitely need a motorboatin’.

  27. We’ve got him now people! He’s on the ropes! Impeachment and a jail cell are just around the corner!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/07/26/trump-cannot-keep-his-corruption-hidden-forever-heres-whats-coming/?tid=pm_opinions_pop

    You guys may wanna lay off the crack pipe for a while, it’s rotting your brain.

    1. Chipwooder

      Let me guess, Cohen tape fever?

      *checks*

      Yep, that’s what I thought.

      1. KSuellington

        And now that news has come out today that Mueller is examining Trump’s tweets for evidence of obstruction of justice it can only be a short time more before he is led away in cuffs and Hillary can take her rightful place.

    2. Slammer

      If Cohen was Hillary’s lawyer he’d be dead already

      1. …ahem…”committed suicide”.

      2. Grumbletarian

        If Cohen was Hillary’s lawyer he’d be dead the suicided victim of a robbery gone bad already

  28. Semi-Spartan Dad

    Not a lawyer but it doesn’t appear that Florida’s SYG law applies in this case. I know in VA, you lose SYG protection if you have contributed to the escalation of the situation. In that case, you have a duty to retreat if at all possible. I looked up Florida’s code and it appears to be the same or similar enough:

    776.041 Use or threatened use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
    (1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
    (2) Initially provokes the use or threatened use of force against himself or herself, unless:
    (a) Such force or threat of force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use or threatened use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
    (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use or threatened use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use or threatened use of force.

    I think this is clear example of part (2) and neither (a) nor (b) occurred (which are both essentially “duty to retreat”). Also, RC, part (1) would answer your earlier question about SYG protecting a perp during robbery.

    1. Gadfly

      I don’t think 2 applies unless he made verbal threats, as surely talking/arguing/yelling/cursing at someone doesn’t justly provoke the use of force. Pushing someone to the ground is the initiation of violence here. However, it does look like the guy who started the violence was about to retreat before getting shot, so an investigation/charge is warranted, in my opinion.

      1. Semi-Spartan Dad

        talking/arguing/yelling/cursing at someone doesn’t justly provoke the use of force

        I don’t think that’s correct, at least in terms of the law. I’ve been told any action you take to purposely incite the situation counts as you escalating it and provoking the response. Slamming your horn down in traffic or flipping the bird are other examples.

        1. Semi-Spartan Dad

          It’s why I never honk or do anything to provoke another driver cutting me off in traffic. Getting that couple second honk in isn’t worth losing my right to defend myself if something goes horribly wrong.

    2. R C Dean

      Thanks for enacting our labor.

      Exception 2 is interesting. It counts provoking the use or threat of force, but doesn’t really include actually “initiating the use of force”, which, as we will discover, is the kind of shit drafting that needs fixing.

      In this case, I think the question is whether Drejka (the shooter) initially “provoked” the use of force or threat of force. McGlockton never used force against Drejka, so Drejka did not provoke the use of force. The question is whether McGlockton threatened the use of force. If he didn’t, then Drejka didn’t provoke the threat of force, either. If Drejka provoked nothing, then he can’t be barred under this shit drafting from claiming self-defense. IOW, as drafted, if you initiate the use of force without provoking even a threat, you can claim self-defense under the SYG law. The only saving grace is that by initiating the actual use of force without provoking even a threat first, he might get caught under the first clause, as someone who committed a forcible felony. But that’s circular as hell – he only commits the felony if he can’t claim self-defense, and he can claim self-defense as long he didn’t even provoke the dead to do anything.

      This case is very reminiscent of Trayvon, up until the part where Trayvon/McGlockton either backs off (McGlockton) or continues the assault they initiated (Trayvon). That’s why Martin should have come out they way it did (good shoot) and I think this one looks like it was not a good shoot.

      The bench hearing is where the presumption gets flipped so now the prosecution has to show there isn’t a good self-defense argument, instead of the defendant having to prove up the self-defense. I’m kinda up in the air on that. Wrapping it into “stand my ground” is conflating two different things, though.

      1. Lackadaisical

        McGlockton never used force against Drejka, so Drejka did not provoke the use of force.

        McGlockton pushed the guy, isn’t that a use of force?

        If Drejka provoked nothing, then he can’t be barred under this shit drafting from claiming self-defense.

        It’d be interesting to see what counts as ‘provoking’ violence or threats.

        1. R C Dean

          Aaargh. You are right. That’s what I get for piecemealing a comment over time.

          McGlockton was the aggressor in my book. Don’t see Drejka provoking it. (2) is never triggered, he gets the bench hearing and defense. The prosecution has a good case that shooting McG was unjustified, should get to trial at least.

  29. Mustang

    Japan Glibs (all…two others?), Straffinrun and I are going to meet up for food and drinks next month sometime. If you want to join us, email me at mustang dot 314 at protonmail dot com.

    1. Sensei

      I think just one more. I’m in NYC.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Blow-up doll tits, like tires, are best when filled up with nitrogen acetylene.

  31. Mmmm… robotitties…

    1. Mustang

      They can grow or shrink depending on the user’s preferences.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Mojeaux-

    You said something in yesterday’s links (in that subthread discussion about women and whether they want to solve their problems, or just bitch about them) which reminded me of my Unified Theory of Problem Solving. It sounded like you are pretty much on the same track.

    When you have a problem, you have three possible responses, based on severity of the issue and appropriate cost-benefit analysis:

    a) Fix it
    b) Live with it
    c) Get rid of it

    ps- I don’t think women are that much more likely to bitch for bitching’s sake than men.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Rufus (shakes radio). It’s broken.
      Wife: Are you sure? Maybe the batteries are dead.
      Rufus (turns it upside down): No, I think it’s broken.

      /goes on Amazon.

      1. Mojeaux

        Wife: You just wanted a new radio.
        Rufus: Nuh uh! Not even! Totes not— Oooh, shiny!

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Hey. You nailed my life perfectly!

    2. Mojeaux

      Yes, that sounds right. That does not mean I don’t want to weep and wail and gnash my teeth. I do that for a while. It’s cathartic. I clear the cobwebs out of my head. A form of brainstorming, if you will. When writing, I talk my plot problems out with my husband the same way; often he can’t help, but I’ve given myself a fresh look just by saying things out loud.

      Then I settle in to dealing with it, with a clear head, a goal, and a plan.

      1. mikey

        My wife exactly. She wants me to listen and sympathize. She does not want me to solve it. When she’s got the emotion out of it she’ll solve her own damn problems.

        1. Mojeaux

          There have been times I’ve ranted at my husband about, say, a computer problem I was having. He’s my IT dude insofar as I allow him to be (not far). He has insight into how to solve a big problem that I won’t have because I don’t have the experience (e.g., “I want to be able to do x, y, and z, and my google-fu is exhausted.” “You need a solid state drive to do what you want.” “Oh.”)

          I was bitching about having to have a Mac to upload my books to iBooks (iTunes Producer). I sure as hell wasn’t going to buy one for one tiny task. I had discovered a thing called a Hackintosh, decided to do that, then got busy. Doing a Hackintosh is within my capabilities, but it was not within my time availability. I was complaining that I was too busy to do it myself. So he took it upon himself to build a Hackintosh (dual boot) for me. He didn’t say anything while I was bitching because he knew I could solve my own problem if I had time. My real problem was lack of time. He fixed that for me.

    3. Florida Man

      ps- I don’t think women are that much more likely to bitch for bitching’s sake than men.

      Exhibit A: incels

      1. starchy

        I thought they were being lumped in with children rather than men.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      My wife and I have two core problems are 1) she is a slow burner, while I am a flash in the pan when it comes to being angry and 2) she can’t figure out the difference between me being mad at her or just being mad in general.

      An example of how things go:
      1) I lose my mind and decide to do a home project
      2) Start by trying to find my Cheap Charlie tools (the screwdriver counts as a chisel too when they advertised ‘100 piece toolset’
      3) Get grumpy because many of the tools are missing. Interview wife, kids, dog, neighbors and others to discover who might have used them and not returned them
      4) Get grumpier because none of them will confess
      5) Start poking around in 5 gallon bucket to look for 14mm socket needed.
      6) Start edging from grumpy to mad because while I have found 13mm, 15mm, 13.89mm, 14.02mm and other near matches no 14mm can be found.
      7) Decide that 14.02mm will probably work
      8) manage to get bolt crucial to project slightly loosened before completely stripping it. (loose enough to allow fluid to drip out)
      9) Throw socket wrench and let loose with cuss words in convulsive spasm of rage.
      10) After rage spasm, bp lowers and I feel better
      11) realize that I was stupid to have even tried to do a home project. Look on the bright side that I still have all 10 thumbs.
      12) Decide to go get a beer and feel better yet
      13) quickly throw as many tools into the bucket as I can. Kick others under the shop bench where I assure myself I’ll pick them up later after the beer drinking is done.
      14) Turn around to see my wife pouting and moping. She’s been getting steadily mad for the last 4 hours I’ve been storming around in the garage.
      15) She thinks that all my cussing and tantrums are somehow related to her. And it isn’t fair for me to blame her for my problems. The injustice of that makes her madder and madder and she is just getting warmed up.
      16) I’m completely done being mad, but she is still stewing and I manage to say something sarcastic to her and the fight is on.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        My wife and I are similar when it comes to fights. Usually before the initial argument is over, I’m already past it but the wifey lingers on for days.

      2. Semi-Spartan Dad

        You’ve described my life right down to the 5 gallon bucket full of misc sockets.

      3. Mojeaux

        She thinks that all my cussing and tantrums are somehow related to her.

        Because you asked her if she took your tools and didn’t put them back where they belonged, and she thinks you don’t believe her when she says no and you’ve been down there cussing your tools instead of cussing her directly.

        Amirite? Or amirite?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          No. I don’t think it is because she thinks that I’m blaming her for the missing tools (even though she probably is guilty of that). That is an optional step. Sometimes I’m still lucid enough to skip that step because I realize it won’t help anything.

          I think it is just the way she is wired. Mental deficiencies like the ones she has are what kept her from getting a better husband.

          1. Mojeaux

            Mental deficiencies like the ones she has are what kept her from getting a better husband.

            My poor husband also did not necessarily luck out in the wife department.

      4. Mojeaux

        As to your specific garage problem, I am the one with the garage and tools, and my son is the one who trashes everything. But I do have the advantage of knowing whom to yell at.

        1. Tundra

          I stopped leaning tools and trained my kids. My garage makes me slightly giddy.

          1. Mojeaux

            I haz a jealous.

      5. My wife and I cannot share in the duties of a home project. It’s not good.

        1. Mojeaux

          With my rotator cuffs shot, my husband has started dabbling in electricity. I am pleased.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          ^THIS

          About 20 years ago my wife did a home project while I was away on a trip to the BWCA and it was amazing. A project got done and everyone was happy. Since then that has been our new strategy. Each of us does our own thing and the other is prohibited from commenting.

      6. trshmnstr

        We have opposite roles. I’m the slow burner and my wife is the one who tends to fume. It puts me in a bad mood when she is on a tear. I can’t really help it, I just feed off of her anger.

  33. RE: Florida SYG.

    Sorry, don’t have sympathy for the dead guy. I have sympathy for his fatherless children, but not for him. An armed society is a polite society. Running at someone and knocking them down is not polite. He should have taken into account that the guy he assaulted might be armed, might feel that such an assault was life-threatening and might shoot him. Let that be a lesson to all of you.

    1. creech

      Sad, Heat of the moment and all. Had the dead guy shoved a cop like that, we’d all cheer if the cop drew on him and arrested him.
      Or shot him if the assailant kept coming. But the shoved guy probably over-reacted – he wasn’t getting his head beaten into the sidewalk by Trayvon.

    2. Brett L

      If you think someone pushing you down is an attempt on your life, do me a favor and don’t carry.

      1. Semi-Spartan Dad

        Seriously? If a stranger initiates force against me, I’m going to defend myself with lethal force, no hesitation. I have no idea what else is going on in their heads or what they have on their person. I also don’t know how many there are, and I don’t fancy grappling on the ground with gang member #1 while the other two or three are preparing to rape my wife.

        The problem here is not the pushing, it’s that the “victim” initiated the incident and escalated it. Under FL law, SYG doesn’t apply in this case.

        1. Semi-Spartan Dad

          Sorry Brett if I came off strong with that, especially if you were just referring to this specific incidence and not in general.

          I was just thinking about those “knock-out games” and how easily that could be construed as forceful pushing. I also remembered hearing an interview done with top MMA fighter who despised guns because he could go hand to hand with anyone. While the MMA fighter was grappling on the ground, the interviewer casually walked by and slashed him with a rubberknife lined with red paint. The point was never assume there’s not a buddy or three lurking nearby.

          That’s always stuck with me, and indeed potentially saved me when I was nearly robbed in a parking lot (caught the second person coming from outside my peripheral).

      2. Lackadaisical

        I’m surprised no one else has mentioned this, but for a guy who is that old (I’m assuming he’s that old…), being pushed down really can be a death sentence…

        Lotsa oldies break a hip from a fall and never come back.

        That said, it appeared to me the assault was probably over- the shooter should have informed the gentleman to walk away, got himself up and called the police to report the assault.

    3. Or an armed society is a society filled with assholes who know they can be assholes right up to the point of physical violence and pay no repercussions. Sometimes an ass-kicking is called for and not every ass-kicking is grounds for lethal escalation of force in self defense.

      1. Spudalicious

        This kind of thing doesn’t happen in Idaho, even with very liberal carry laws. I blame humidity.

      2. See Double You

        assholes who know they can be assholes right up to the point of physical violence and pay no repercussions.

        Verbal provocation (“fighting words”), unless it can reasonably be interpreted as a true threat, does not justify getting violent with someone. Walk away. You are the aggressor if you initiate physical violence, even if the other guy is an asshole and “deserves it.”

        Sometimes an ass-kicking is called for

        Huh? You need to expand on this. You shouldn’t be allowed to give someone an ass-kicking unless that’s the only reasonable way to protect yourself from receiving one.

        not every ass-kicking is grounds for lethal escalation of force in self defense.

        I agree, but the rub is that it depends on how you define “ass-kicking.” Ass-kicking can lead to serious bodily injury or even death. In most states, you can, and I believe rightfully, use lethal force if you reasonably *apprehend* serious bodily injury or death (i.e., you don’t have to actually receive the ass-kicking to protect yourself with lethal force).

        I don’t know if Florida’s particular requirement of a bench hearing to determine whether the prosecution can even go forward to a grand jury is the right call. As with most crimes, if the prosecutor thinks he can prove his case beyond a reasonable doubt that it was murder, then his case – as well as the defendant’s claim of self-defense – should go before the jury to determine both the facts and whether they show the defendant was justified, i.e., whether he was in reasonable apprehension of death or seriously bodily injury, in using lethal force.

        1. Huh? You need to expand on this. You shouldn’t be allowed to give someone an ass-kicking unless that’s the only reasonable way to protect yourself from receiving one.

          I’d say ‘allowed’ isn’t the right word, perhaps forgiven. As I’ve said before- yes, you have a ‘don’t punch a guy in the mouth’ rule, but occasionally when brought up on charges and asked why did you punch that guy in the mouth, ‘Because he called my daughter a cunt’ is, for me, a good enough excuse.

          Don’t know if you saw/remember the video a while back showing some little kid just losing his shit in a park and screaming at a woman for minutes on end. One of the most common responses to that and similar videos is “Someday that kids going to try that with the wrong guy and get taught a lesson” The implication is that some people learn how to behave only the hard way. I think it’s instinctual and while one can’t codify every possible scenario most people can tell when a beat down is being begged for, at the same time most people also know when “He’s had enough”, Some behavior deserves a bitch slap not so much repeated kickings once he’s down. It’s a continuum and you can’t draw a line somewhere and say everything up to this is fine and you can’t do anything, anything after that point is a death sentence.

    4. Tundra

      I’m actually way more polite when I’m carrying.

  34. Rufus the Monocled

    What do you guys think? Is there a Christian revival through music?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsiU8W2WWa4

    Also, do you think Fonzie ever banged Mrs. C?

    1. Also, do you think Fonzie ever banged Mrs. C?

      Of course not, Potsie, though, that smarmy little punk was probably nailing every MILF in Milwaukee.

      1. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

        I would put that on Ralph. He seems more the type to go after a housewife-especially after he got a “taste”.

        This right here-my contribution to the comments.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Yes, that sounds right. That does not mean I don’t want to weep and wail and gnash my teeth. I do that for a while. It’s cathartic. I clear the cobwebs out of my head.

    That’s a phase of the cost-benefit analysis, I’d say. You (I) get to the point of saying, “Good grief, is this worth all these emotional gymnastics?”

    Then it’s a question of whether the situation can be made better, or if that’s more trouble than it’s worth.

    1. Mojeaux

      When I got more serious about not letting other people harsh my Zen, I learned to walk away from the situation as soon as I figured out what was going on. “Is this harmful to me? Yes? Do I need you in my life? No? Do I like you and want to spare your feelings? No. Fuck you. And the midget you rode in on.”

      Now, I am practically unemployable. I’m too much of a nonconformist and likely inadequately socialized. I made my living as a temp most of my adult life, which was almost perfect for me. Then I found a dude who could put up with me and supported me in my desire to work from home when the babies came along. Working for myself has been the perfect solution to many of the problems I’ve had that kicked off much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

      On reflection, most of my situations where I want to bitch with no practical return on emotional investment, is because of other people, their feelings for me, or my feelings for them.

  36. Pope Jimbo

    For Minneapolis Glibs:

    Leap at the Wheel thinks he is some sort of miracle worker. He wants to see if we can get some of the Minnesoda Glibs in the same building this Sunday. Tundra and I have agreed(shit, maybe he is a miracle man) to meet him at Ike’s downtown for breakfast this Sunday.

    You can hit me up at pope@jimbo.church for details.

    Personally I want to see what happens to Tundra once he leaves his palatial gated estate in West Maple Grove and has to venture out onto the mean streets of the city.

  37. Gilmore

    so i watched Citizen X last night

    very good little film (made-for-TV-movie, really)

    especially interesting b/c it was made at a time when memory of “how the soviet union actually worked” (and didn’t) was still very fresh in people’s minds.

    its not really a western crime-drama, “how to catch a mass-murderer”, so much

    more like, “How NOT to catch a mass-murderer: work for communists! who inject every single possible disincentive into the mix to make an organization like a police force be utterly useless, ineffective, at anything except punishing political targets.

    imo, its really more about how people managed to navigate around the obstacles that the soviet system put in their way.
    (in that way, it has some similarities to the first season of Mindhunter, in how the behavioral sciences unit was seen as antithetical to the core forensic work of the FBI, and higher-ups frequently tried to undermine them)

    and, maybe more-importantly, the thing i think it gets right is “how it felt to live/work in that system”; there’s a sort of fatalism, nihilism …bureaucratic cynicism, that runs through everything. I don’t think they could re-make that same time period in Russia today and capture the zeitgeist nearly as accurately.

    (hell, i thought the Unabomber series even fucked up the 1990s; they simply projected 2018 mores/attitudes/slang backward, and slapped some 1990s soundtrack/fashion/haircuts on top)

    anyway, thumbs up on that one.

  38. Pope Jimbo

    Behold! Minnesoda’s vaunted bike lanes might be problematic after all.

    All of this points to a phenomenon that Dr. Melody L. Hoffmann refers to as the “invisible cyclist” in her book, “Bike Lanes Are White Lanes: Bicycle Advocacy and Urban Planning.” Hoffmann, an Anoka-Ramsey Community College communications and media studies instructor, activist, and bike advocate, recently gave a talk at Walker Library highlighting the implications of biking from an urban planning perspective. In her book and during her talks, Hoffman continually asks: If the largest biking bloc consists of poor and working class people of color — Latino men in particular — why are most city bike lanes located in affluent, predominately white neighborhoods? Why does urban bike culture largely exclude people of color? And, more importantly, is there a connection between bike lanes and gentrification? If so, what is the socioeconomic connection between constructing bike lanes and displacing poorer communities?

    I have to tip my hat to this gal. I didn’t think I could despise biking advocates more than I already do. But she hit bedrock and started busting through with her pickaxe of racism.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      C’mon, don’t make me enact all your labor for you. Get in there and check the idiocy out of this gal:

      MP: What does biking mean to you, personally?
      MH: Independence and freedom. Come and go whenever I damn well want to. Which is why as a person who is an introvert, I don’t have to wait for anybody. It’s also a safety thing. And I feel that so much here. But it is safety. Safety and empowerment. Freedom.

      MP: What do you think that biking means to communities of color or working people, in general?
      MH: Freedom, for sure. But for some people it’s a marker of poverty. And I don’t wanna just say it’s just in people of color neighborhoods. I think in working class of all people. It is a marker of poverty. Because I understand that getting a car is a status symbol for a lot of communities. But if people have a car and a bike. Then people might start asking you, “Why are you biking then? If you have a car, then why are you choosing to bike, you know?”

      I would love to be at this meeting:

      MH: Good news! We got a grant for $20M to put in new bike lanes in your neighborhood!
      Local Dude: I guess that is Ok.
      MH: Yeah, those white supremecists wanted to set up a program to provide loans and assistance to buy cars. But we fought them and won. Now we get bike lanes.
      Local Dude: Wait? They were going to help us buy cars? Why did you stop that?
      MH: You don’t want a car. They are symbols of the white patriarchy. Now you can bike to work in style and honor.
      Local Dude: This is Minnesoda. It is cold as hell here. I want a fucking car. I’m gonna kill you!
      MH: That is just false consciousness making you think that a car is a status symbol.

  39. Hyperion

    In case no one has posted this… sorry, I just got home, I’m fucking tired. Just opened a beer and this article just hits the spot, it’s a very accurate and quite hysterical article on the apparent mindset of pretty much all rags in NY.

    Melodramatic sycophants NY style?

    1. Look at the record: Ted Kennedy, Mike Dukakis, Paul Tsongas, John Kerry. Fool me once shame on you, fool me four times, five times … what’s up with that?

      Forgot to mention Mitt Romney. Much as I despise Obama, watching Romney lose after 2 serious attempts at the presidency was delicious.

  40. Pope Jimbo

    More trouble in Minnesoda!

    Turns out we are a hotbed of Deaf Privilege.

    A story about court interpreters whining that they don’t make as much as court sign language folk. Of course that is all because deaf crackers are keeping them down.

    Certified Hmong interpreter Kazoua Yang, who worked for the state for two decades and helped create the initial interpreter payment policy in 1997, says it’s not a coincidence that MJB has different payment policies for the two interpreter groups.

    While Yang acknowledges that the sign language profession is more established, she believes the disparate treatment of spoken language interpreters has a lot to do with the fact that sign language interpreters and their clients are often white, native-born Americans with a long history of challenging the state when it violates the Americans with Disability Act, which protects deaf and hard of hearing individuals.

    “For me, as a person of color, I believe it’s about our color,” Yang said. “All of the ASL interpreters are white. Their clients are white. They can speak up; they can file a lawsuit. [But] all of our clients cannot even speak English.”

    1. Pope Jimbo

      The other gem in this story is the guy who represents the courts in this dispute. I wonder if he has a newsletter I could subscribe to

      Then it was Shorba’s turn to talk. “The Judicial Council asked me to come to this meeting on their behalf to talk about some of the issues you’ve been raising,” he began.

      He quickly made it clear that MJB was not going to consider a pay increase for interpreters after the changes that were made last year — a reference to the $2 per hour increase.

      The mention of the $2 bump sparked a vociferous response among the crowd. “$2!” the event’s organizer, Rica Highers, shouted. “I can’t buy coffee with $2. Come on!”

      “It’s an increase, whether you like it or not,” Shorba replied. “We made the increase based on a market study.”

    2. slumbrew

      For me, as a person of color, I believe it’s about our color

      Quelle surprise.

      1. Lackadaisical

        Jesus.

        Is it too late to send her back?

  41. The Late P Brooks

    more like, “How NOT to catch a mass-murderer: work for communists! who inject every single possible disincentive into the mix to make an organization like a police force be utterly useless, ineffective, at anything except punishing political targets.

    It’s been quite a while since I watched it, but I recall a powerful underlying implication that the very last thing his bosses wanted was for the detective to catch the killer, or even reveal the extent of the crime, because they did not want to be forced to openly admit such a thing could happen in the glorious People’s Republic.

    1. slumbrew

      Child 44 covered much of the same ground – “there are no mass murderers in the Soviet Union, those are only a product of the decadent West.”

    2. Gilmore

      I recall a powerful underlying implication that the very last thing his bosses wanted was for the detective to catch the killer, or even reveal the extent of the crime, because they did not want to be forced to openly admit such a thing could happen in the glorious People’s Republic

      basically. they openly say so: ‘these things don’t happen here’.

      Solzhenitsyn has a book titled (its a pair of short stories): “We Never Make Mistakes”, which captured the same attitude in an earlier part of the soviet union. If something failed, or the system wasn’t working, the solution was to find a new way of describing it so it would be seen as ‘part of the plan’.

      The example (if i remember correctly) was two soldiers talking about whether their prisoner was a spy or not. the conclusion was basically, “it didn’t matter, he would be shot regardless, because questions of guilt or innocence were irrelevant; The State ‘never making mistakes’ was more important than faffing about the fate of 1 man.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        This theme came up in Alexander Dolgun’s story as well. He recalls being interrogated where the purpose was simply to have him acknowledge what they already “knew”.

    1. mikey

      Prince is dead. His work should be in the public domain. “Rights Holders” are parasitic rent seekers.

      1. Mojeaux

        I do think there is a place in libertarianism for intellectual property, but I also believe the work should enter public domain when the creator dies.

        1. Rasilio

          Fuck that when the creator dies shit.

          You get 10 years from first publication. If you can’t make your profit on it in a decade then that’s a you problem

          1. Mojeaux

            1. People don’t have a right to my labor, but with intellectual property, they can take it. There are more people who want to read my books for free than are willing to pay for it, so profit shouldn’t be a cornerstone of terms.

            2. Under copyright law, someone else can’t copy my work wholesale, repackage it, and market it. They just may be a better marketer than I am. If they did it now, they are stealing my labor. If they did it when I died, fine.

            3. There is nothing new under the sun, but if we could copy everybody else’s work and present it as our own, there would be little incentive for innovation. The market and copyright/trademark/patent process rewards risk-takers with potential profit.

          2. Lackadaisical

            1. People don’t have a right to my labor, but with intellectual property, they can take it.

            I assume you mean ‘without’ IP.

            The thing that gets me about IP is that someone printing copies of your book without your permission is not taking anything away from you. In real property only one person can utilize it at a time, with IP every person on earth could make a copy and you would still have yours. IP is a positive right – a right to stop others from producing something. This goes against just about every other libertarian position which tends to revolve around the protection of negative rights.

            There are more people who want to read my books for free than are willing to pay for it, so profit shouldn’t be a cornerstone of terms.

            Not sure what you mean here. There are many more models for compensating the creative class than monetizing mass-market sales in (near) perpetuity.

            2. Under copyright law, someone else can’t copy my work wholesale, repackage it, and market it. They just may be a better marketer than I am. If they did it now, they are stealing my labor. If they did it when I died, fine.

            Assuming IP is enforced (and moral), why would it be any better to steal from your heirs the products of your labor?

            3. There is nothing new under the sun, but if we could copy everybody else’s work and present it as our own, there would be little incentive for innovation. The market and copyright/trademark/patent process rewards risk-takers with potential profit.

            The bolded part would be fraud, regardless of IP considerations. There would still be people willing to pay others for new things. In a world without IP, there would be trade secrets to keep hold of proprietary processes instead of enforcing them through law. Wealthy people (and likely others) would still subsidize the arts. For a modern day example, see patreon.

        2. Gustave Lytton

          I don’t think the death of the creator should trigger ending the copyright. Something like thirty years after creation plus renewal for another thirty years if a renewal is filed. Fail to renew, and it enters public domain after the first thirty.

          1. Waterfall Insurance

            The original us copyright was 28 years with an option to pay for n additional 28 years

          2. Waterfall Insurance

            It got changed in the 70s and again on the 90s. The 90s version is crazy I think 95 years after authors death.

          3. Mojeaux

            It’ll go again when Big Mouse starts runs out of time.

          4. Jarflax

            I agree with this, it would be unfair to base it the creator’s death, a big part of the value of property is the ability to leave it to better the lives of your loved ones.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Don’t mess with Big Mouse!

        1. Waterfall Insurance

          Mickey Mouse is protected as a trademark but steamboat willy I think goes public domain in 2019. First new public domain stuff since the late 90s.

      3. Heroic Mulatto

        you shut the fuck up! prince not dead. prince alive in serbia, prince making album of serbia . fast rap prince serbia. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of prince… you are ppoor stink turk… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt

        prince alive numbr one #1 in serbia ….fuck the croatia ,..FUCKk ashol turks no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur flag and contry. prince aliv and real strong wizard kill all the turk farm aminal with rap magic now we the serba rule .ape of the zoo presidant donal trump fukc the great satan and lay egg this egg hatch and bosnia wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. serbia greattst countrey

        1. Pan Zagloba

          Here, you earn boobies.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            How do you say “thicc” in Serbian?

          2. Pan Zagloba

            Drusna (Droo-snah)

            Archaic term for a woman, as the dictionary I looked up to confirm says, “wider in hips and richer in decoltage, and is not afraid to demonstrate both”.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            Nice.

          4. DEG

            Not bad

          5. DEG

            And she has a boobpedia page.

  42. Hyperion

    So, in other more local news, my wife nearly saw the cops shoot or shoot at a guy today. She’s not sure if the guy was hit or not, but she saw the guy stop and put his hands up behind his head and one of the cops had his weapon drawn, then she couldn’t get a good view, but heard a shot, so she took cover and there were a bunch of people screaming and yelling and carrying on. She’s still a little shaken. I’m checking to see if it’s in the Balmer news. It’s Baltimore, damnit.

    1. Tres Cool

      Or Detroit, or Chicago, or DC, or Atlanta….

      Not to diminish or marginalize it. That’s some real shit to witness.

      1. Hyperion

        2nd time for her to witness something like this. She saw a guy pull a gun on another guy a while back and the other guy say ‘just go ahead and shoot me’. She cleared out and called the cops.

        A couple of months ago, there was a guy shot right out front of one of my client’s offices, and both a bank across the street, and a fast food restaurant also right across the street were both robbed at gunpoint, in the same fucking day. Stuff like this is so routine, no one pays much attention to it anymore. We’re the fuck out of here in less than a year. Where we live is very safe, but we’re out in the sticks way outside the city in an upper middle class neighborhood that has neighborhood watches, mostly gated communities and several private security companies on constant patrol. Driving into the city to work is sketchy at best. I’m sure Detroit is bad too, but this place, if you’ve heard the rumors, it’s all true. Third world level murder rates in the city.

        1. Tres Cool

          Yeah, I used to work for WR Grace at the plant on Curtis Bay, and stayed not real far away.
          I understand.

          1. Hyperion

            It’s gotten consistently worse over the 5 years we’ve been here. It’s becoming a war zone. You can’t even go down to the harbor anymore for events and feel safe. And the useful idiots keep voting in the same corrupt people year after year, who propose the same non-solutions. The infrastructure is crumbling to pieces as they collect obscene taxes, by far the highest in the state. I’m going to take some pics of the road just about 100 yards from here that I have to take to get to work and post here. You guys will probably think I must have been in Somalia when I took them, it’s beyond absurd. There are a few very safe areas in the city, the rest of it is a sprawling wasteland that third world peasants would be afraid to go to. I mean what is there to day about a city that has lost 40% of it’s population in the last 2 decades? I should have known better.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Don’t need to tell me. I lived midtown during the height of the coke trade. You learned to stay in the right neighborhoods.

    2. topnotchtoledo

      My dad worked at the Bmore Sun for 30+ years. Never once had us come to work with him. The closest we got was seeing Cal Ripken the week he broke the record. Looking back I don’t blame him, Baltimore is a shithole.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    I think I’m going to throw a few beers in the cooler and go hang out by the river.

    1. Tres Cool

      In a van?

    2. Spudalicious

      One of the most therepeutic activities I can think of.

      1. Tres Cool

        ..down by the river

      2. Hyperion

        I have this thing for rivers, always have had. One of my favorite activities ever is to float rivers in canoes. I’ve had some real adventures. And some really crazy times. I took this one guy on a 12 mile float. I would calculate the time, but I really badly miscalculated that time. We wound up on a wild river for nearly the entire night, pitch black, portages frequent, through swampy water. Even I was a little worried, but this poor dude was hysterical, crying and shit. He told everyone that I’m crazy and that I did it on purpose, I mean because I was laughing after we finally found the point I had parked my truck. There were no cell phones back then. Good thing is there were no gators or poison snakes in that part of the country either. I was sore as fuck the next day from the portages in the dark. He called me so upset, he couldn’t go to work, he would never go anywhere with me again, I’m crazy, lol. I saw it as an adventure, a memory. I told him to man up. We never talked again.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Heh, I have a favorite camping trip like that.

    3. Hyperion

      Sounds like fun. Sometimes when I have to go on a daydream, I reminisce about the times me and my friends used to go down by the river and just sit and drink beer on a nice day. All my troubles seemed so far away and all that jazz.

  44. Pan Zagloba

    Reason’s data lady (and millennial-poller) Emily Ekin has an interesting paper on Five Types of Trump Voters

    Key Findings:

    This analysis finds five unique clusters of Trump voters: American Preservationists (20%), Staunch Conservatives (31%), Anti-Elites (19%), Free Marketeers (25%), and the Disengaged (5%)
    There is no such thing as “one kind of Trump voter” who voted for him for one single reason. Many voted with enthusiasm for Trump while others held their noses and voted against Hillary Clinton.
    Trump voters hold very different views on a wide variety of issues including immigration, race, American identity, moral traditionalism, trade, and economics.
    Four issues distinguish Trump voters from non-Trump voters: attitudes toward Hillary Clinton, evaluations of the economy, views about illegal immigration, and views about Muslim immigration.

    It’s fairly extensive and nerdy, but hey, sometimes you want to read non-retarded stuff, if only to remind you how much easier on the brain retarded stuff is.

    1. slumbrew

      Emily Ekin

      Something, something, “polling”, something, “if you know what I mean”.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        I wrote what I wrote in hopes she’ll never see it.

    2. Gilmore

      Mr Link, he dead

    3. Pan Zagloba

      Thank you, Gilmore!

      Hopefully un-SFed link

    4. Heroic Mulatto

      Free Marketeers (25%)

      So, 25% of Trump voters are fucking retarded?

      1. grrizzly

        Free Marketeers vote Hillary Clinton. It’s known.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          How do you say “fallacy of the false dilemma” in Bearanese?

      2. Pan Zagloba

        If you read deeper in, it’s more like “held their noses while pining for Cruz/Rand Paul/Paul Ryan”

        1. Waterfall Insurance

          Bernie was a somewhat viable presidential candidate. Trump is free market as we are likely to get for the foreseeable future.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            Eh, establishment GOP is genuinely good if you like slightly-crooked, gently cronyish trade deals with otherwise not much fuckery.

            And that’s the best you can get until Rothbard-EVA activates and remolds human race into a Libertarian goo.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Trump is free market as we are likely to get for the foreseeable future.

            That’s over-egging the pudding a bit, no? Even during the primaries, there were plenty of candidates more committed to free market principles than Trump. Indeed, according to the report, at least two of those clusters were attracted to Trump precisely because the economic planks of his platform were ripped straight from the 1970’s/’80’s Hard Hat Democrats’.

          3. Waterfall Insurance

            Fair enough I probably am relying too much on what people say online and in person. normal and or smart people don’t voice their opinion as loudly or as often as the usefull idiots.

          4. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Part of Trump’s appeal was that most people only heard what they wanted to hear. His slapdash style only helped that.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            You’re right.

          6. Kind of like Obama in that regard.

          7. grrizzly

            He is consistent that way. Just yesterday: in the morning tariffs are the best — but in the afternoon he praised the tariff-free future of the US-EU trade.

          8. Heroic Mulatto

            Kind of like Obama in that regard.

            I was going to type something similar. The parallels between Trump’s and Obama’s appeal are quite interesting.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Red beans and rice Big Macs and Cokes didn’t miss ’em.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I…. I….

        *blinks*

  45. DEG

    I’ve decided to expand my musical horizons today. I hope HM will be proud.

    I’m not sure what they are singing, but I approve of the women in the video.

    1. Heroic Mulatto
      1. DEG

        Thanks!

  46. DEG

    Lawyer Benjamin Crump joined the family of Markeis McGlockton, the 28-year-old father of three fatally shot by another man in a Clearwater parking lot, and argued there is enough evidence for state prosecutors to bring charges against the shooter.

    Wasn’t Crump the lawyer for Trayvon Martin’s family? Yes, wiki sez.

    1. DEG

      Or I could’ve finished reading the article:

      Crump also represented the family of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black teenager fatally shot in 2012 by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman.

  47. Count Potato

    “JULY 25–A naked man who police found doing jumping jacks in the women’s bathroom of a McDonald’s in Tennessee was arrested Monday on public indecency, trespass, and public intoxication charges.

    Police were summoned to a McDonald’s in Nashville due to a “male subject who was locked in the womens restroom naked,” according to a court affidavit. Restaurant management reported that the man had “been there all day.””

    http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/mcdonalds-huffer-popped-684309

    He probably thought it was a Starbucks.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They told me I didn’t have to buy anything. I’ve been set up.

      1. Lackadaisical

        I’m just surprised he didn’t claim to be a she…

  48. DEG

    I’m drinking a liter of Black Radish. It’s OK.

  49. Count Potato
    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Stupid + a degree = still stupid

      And when you have to explain your sophomoric “art”, it really blunts the message.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I would tell her to lose a few pounds, but I think it would be better if she added some.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I was worried for a while that she’d lose a few pounds….

      BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      1. Tres Cool

        If you looked at my dating resume, she’s a “waif”.

        Would.

    4. Lackadaisical

      Twatter videos are annoying.

      What do you mean I can’t go to another tab while this shit plays in the background?

  50. Scruffy Nerfherder

    So Mueller may be going for obstruction of justice. The fallback charge for every pointless FBI investigation since time began.

    https://qz.com/1341199/robert-mueller-is-investigating-trumps-twitter-here-are-22-tweets-about-james-comey-and-jeff-sessions/

    1. What’s up with not being able to get to the bottom of the page to find the end of the story?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Click the read full story button

  51. Scruffy Nerfherder

    “Possibly my mother would want to debate me on this, but if anyone was ever a socialist it was Jesus.”

    Your mother should have slapped you more often.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/07/26/630960719/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-democratic-socialists-of-america

    1. Count Potato

      Fine, then let’s crucify all the socialists.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Look at Consul Crassus over here

        1. Count Potato

          Pontius Helicopter Pilate

    2. Tres Cool

      N̵o̵,̵ ̵i̵f̵ ̵e̵v̵e̵r̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵r̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵a̵ ̵s̵o̵c̵i̵a̵l̵i̵s̵t̵ ̵”̵h̵o̵l̵y̵ ̵m̵a̵n̵”̵ ̵i̵t̵s̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵c̵u̵r̵r̵e̵n̵t̵ ̵P̵o̵p̵e̵.̵ ̵ ̵L̵e̵f̵t̵y̵s̵ ̵l̵o̵v̵e̵ ̵g̵l̵o̵m̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵o̵n̵ ̵t̵o̵ ̵t̵h̵e̵ ̵s̵o̵c̵i̵a̵l̵i̵s̵t̵ ̵a̵s̵p̵e̵c̵t̵ ̵o̵f̵ ̵c̵h̵r̵i̵s̵t̵i̵a̵n̵i̵t̵y̵ ̵b̵a̵s̵e̵d̵ ̵s̵o̵l̵e̵l̵y̵ ̵o̵n̵ ̵”̵l̵o̵v̵e̵ ̵o̵n̵e̵ ̵a̵n̵o̵t̵h̵e̵r̵”̵.̵ ̵ ̵T̵h̵e̵y̵ ̵a̵l̵m̵o̵s̵t̵ ̵a̵l̵w̵a̵y̵s̵ ̵f̵o̵r̵g̵e̵t̵ ̵”̵r̵e̵a̵p̵ ̵w̵h̵a̵t̵ ̵y̵o̵u̵ ̵s̵o̵w̵”̵.̵

      Nevermind. I RTWFA, and I cant even.

    3. Grumbletarian

      But beyond that, the group advocates for some pretty revolutionary changes to democracy, like abolishing the Senate. The DSA calls it “extremely unrepresentative” for the way it gives both tiny and huge states alike two senators each

      Yes, because Senators were originally intended to represent the government of their respective state, which should all be considered equal.

      the group would like to replace it with a more representative body.

      Perhaps a group of … Representatives … under a single House, maybe…

      1. Mojeaux

        Great. Now I have this in my head.

  52. Count Potato

    “Australian news coverage has been dominated in recent days by self-styled Canadian right-wing “provocateur” Lauren Southern — a 23 year-old Youtube personality who travels the world, speaking out on issues ranging from anti-feminism to multiculturalism and immigration. Southern believes that Australia should not accept immigrants from Asia or Africa. “Do you want to retain your culture?” she asks fans in a recent video promoting her Australian tour. “Do you want to retain your borders, family, identity? Or will the boats keep coming? Will the no-go zones keep growing? And will you become another victim of multiculturalism?”

    Unfortunately, it doesn’t matter that the boats stopped long ago and these ‘no go zones’ do not exist in Australia — plenty of followers have skolled the Kool-Aid. It certainly helps that protesters drawn to her recent Melbourne show resorted to storming the stage in a bid to shut the event down after the Victorian police slugged her promoters with an unjustified $68,000 security bill — both events which have helped her promote her tour while drawing sympathy from sections of the public.

    Southern professes that her views are not racist, telling us that her criticism of Muslims could not possibly be racist since Islam is a religion and not a race. Yet she conflates the concepts of race and culture when they suit the anti-immigrant narrative she seeks to weave. She tells us that the only way to preserve Western values is if we limit or exclude immigration from countries which aren’t White.”

    https://quillette.com/2018/07/25/in-defence-of-the-immigrant-a-response-to-lauren-southern/

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Southern pretends to be an individualist, yet insists on judging people as members of a collective.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I should have said claims instead of pretends.

    2. Lackadaisical

      She tells us that the only way to preserve Western values is if we limit or exclude immigration from countries which aren’t White.”

      I don’t really follow her, but does she actually say that?

      1. Count Potato

        Not as far as I know.

    3. Instead of feeling outraged by that excerpt, it seemed instead tiresome.

    4. Heroic Mulatto

      She tells us that the only way to preserve Western values is if we limit or exclude immigration from countries which aren’t White.

      Western values? You mean like Communism, Socialism, Democratic Socialism, Social Democracy, Environmentalism, and all those other bullshit ideologies that were invented by White people and are actually represented by honest-to-goodness political parties in Europe?

      No thanks, Lauren. I’d rather have the Pholosopher.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

    2. Gilmore

      I hired someone to take my online History class. He outsourced the work to someone in Africa, and that person emailed my professor and reported me for cheating. The person I hired refuses to refund the money. What recourse do I have?

      curse your parents for giving you the genes of an idiot?

    1. Hyperion

      Looks very nice. Reminds me a little of TW3. Also, you might want that new PC to for this:

      Cyberpunk 2077

      Getting ready to upgrade my CPU to the 7820X, with necessarily a new board and RAM. Probably also throwing in a new SSD. I already have a 1080ti, so good to go there for now. Hopefully ASUS finally releases their quantum dot 4K gsync HDR monitors this fall and then I can get even more poor.

    2. DEG

      That is visually impressive.

  53. straffinrun

    Ruling party lawmaker says LGBT couples lack ‘productivity

    “In an article titled “Support for LGBT is too much,” Sugita wrote, “Can spending taxpayers’ money for LGBT couples gain approval? They don’t make children. In other words, they lack ‘productivity.’”

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      I would think she would know that governmental support for pederastic monks and samurai is an integral part of 大和魂.

  54. Count Potato

    “Alberta man changes gender on government IDs for cheaper car insurance

    He says he saved almost $1,100”

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/change-gender-identification-insurance-alberta-1.4754416

    1. straffinrun

      This trend has to worry selective service.

    2. Lackadaisical

      In 2011, the European Union’s highest court ruled the insurance industry’s long-standing practice of charging different rates for men and women “constitutes discrimination.” The European Court of Justice ordered the industry to remove gender consideration from auto, life and medical insurance plans, among others.

      As stupid as such anti-discrimination laws are, at least the EU is (surprisingly) consistent.