Previously on H3
Part 1: Introduction, Caveat, and Stakeout
Part B: Permits and Foundations
Part III: Do’h, Stumps, Rodan!!!, and Framing
Part The Fourth: Rough-in, Decks, and Inspection
Insulation, Drywall, Paint, Siding
First off my apologies for the delay in getting this part out, but I’ve been busy what with building homes and whatnot1. Assuming we passed the rough-in/framing inspection we now get to cover everything up and get to finishing. First comes the insulation. We have always subbed out the insulation, in the early days we did so because installing insulation is a nasty, scratchy job and more importantly the big companies could do the job for little more than what the cost of the insulation alone would be to us, economies of scale, FTW. I hear the insulation isn’t as itchy these days and sometimes they use the sprayed in fibrous and/or foamy stuff. Today it’s still cheaper to let the pros do it, plus we now have stricter standards on just how much insulation we need and we have to “prove” that we meet those standards. One “proves” this by submitting forms filled with calculations that I’d wager no one even checks2, but it’s in the file, so it’s all good. The insulation companies have people who fill out these forms, so we let them, it costs more but at least the homeowners know that their homes are nice and tight.
Speaking of which, with the house wrapping, caulking every crack, and the better insulation, some areas started seeing “Sick Home Syndrome,” a situation where people would get sick simply from being in certain buildings too long. Turns out all these energy efficiency regulations were making homes too tight. The answer – require a pressure test and add air exchangers so the houses can breathe3. Government – breaking your legs so it can supply you with crutches.
After the pink stuff comes the grey stuff.4 Drywall is another trade that we have always subbed out, apart from very small jobs it’s just not worth the hassle. In ’88 we used a couple of brothers who hung and finished the jobs themselves, they used hammers and nails but the screw guns were only a few years away. Most drywallers today seem to specialize in either finishing or hanging, the guy we use today doesn’t even employ hangers; he hires a crew that works for two or three other finishers. There are not many codes concerning drywall, we have to hang fire-rated boards on any walls between living spaces and garages but that’s about it.
After the grey stuff comes the stuff that’s whatever color you want it to be5. In the early days I spread a lot of paint6 but as my skill/value in other areas increased it became wiser to sub out the painting and staining. Which isn’t to say that painting is easy and that any hillbilly can do it. In fact, one of the most conscientious tradesmen I have worked alongside of was our long-time painter and wood finisher. Outside of the exemption in footnote #57 there aren’t any codes regarding paint…yet, you can still paint your farmhouse kitchen some shade that’s almost blue or your imperial bedroom an off yellow. I don’t know much about the technological advances in paints; what I do know is that over thirty years the cost has skyrocketed. It could be market driven, but since most things seem to come down in price over time-unless artificially manipulated- my money is on government intervention. Admittedly, this is a personal bias; I’ll gladly defer to anyone with actual knowledge of the ins and outs of the paint game.
Outside it’s time for siding, these days that means vinyl siding and cultured stone. For the first few houses, we used T-111 sheathing and later cedar. T-111 is cheap8 and the cedar expensive, both require maintenance, so vinyl and stone it is. Other than styles, not much has changed in siding; vertical is popular right now and they have some halfway decent looking fake shakes and stone products. The tools might have improved but the application is still the same, likewise with the stone; we’ve used the same masons for 25 years and they’ve always done things the same way.9
The Big Finish
From here on out it’s mostly cosmetics; technically all you need for the final/occupancy permit is a WC, hot water, and a kitchen sink. This is also about the time the owners start to get happy feet, the exterior is done and all the ‘big’ steps have been taken, but there is still plenty to do. I imagine if you had a big enough crew-or separate crews-installing cabinets, hanging doors, and trim, putting in the various floor coverings and such you could finish up quickly but we10 do all that stuff ourselves, so it’s going to take some time. Back when I did our electric, I would start with the lights and outlets, as it makes finishing easier when you don’t have to drag lights and extension cords everywhere.
Other than carpeting, which one likes to install dead last, I like to get the hardwoods, laminates, and ceramic down next; saves having to undercut doors and work around cabinets. Styles and products have changed over the years, laminates are the most popular now, and they have improved a lot. People still like hardwood and ceramics, but the cost difference is substantial. After flooring I like to set the cabinets; they, too, have improved mostly in the hardware, soft close hinges, full extension drawers and such. Countertops are mostly granite or quartz, and those farmhouse apron sinks are all the rage. I use a laser to level the cabinets, and the countertops are digitized and cut on CNC machines.
After the countertops are installed, the plumber can return and finish up, while I move on to hanging doors and trim. All these little things seem to go on forever, installing latch sets, door stops, towel bars, closet shelving, and the inevitable “favors” we do for the homeowners- hanging the wall mount TV brackets they bought or that big mirror and heavy pictures or the swinging porch chair… But then one day it’s done, the inspector can come by and stick his tester in a few outlets11, flush all the toilets and make sure the water at the sink is hot, but not too hot. We gather up any tools and materials still around and move on to the next job.
I know this section comes across as sparse, but other than styles and aforementioned improvements in tools and products finishing, a house hasn’t changed all that much during my 30-year career. To make up for that here’s some argument-starting clickbait type opinion stated as fact.
Every Tom Waits Album12 Ranked Worst to First.
The Black Riders
Blood Money
Real Gone
Foreign Affair
Alice
Closing Time
The Heart of Saturday Night
Franks Wild Years
Bad As Me
Small Change
Bone Machine
Nighthawks at the Diner
Swordfishtrombones
Raindogs
Heartattack and Vine
Mule Variations
Blue Valentine
That’s it for the penultimate part. Next time will be the last time. I’m going to attempt to wrap all this up with some observations about what all this has to do with libertarianism, or perhaps better said, how it has influenced my particular take on libertarianism. If you have any questions or would like more details about some particular area hit me up in the comments and I’ll endeavor to address those issues as well.
1. Mainly trying to drink all the beer Riven sent me.
2. Not one time have I seen an inspector refer to any of the various forms we must submit while he’s doing the inspecting
3. Just like they used to.
4. That might be a euphemism…I’m just not sure for what
5. Except for outside, but I’ll get to that next time
6. [waggles eyebrows]
7. see footnote 5
8. But not inexpensive.
9. Recently retired, maybe the new masons will have new tricks.
10. With Dad pushing 80 that really should be “I”
11. Now, there’s a euphemism!
12. Yes, Nighthawks is technically a live album, but since it’s all original songs (aside from the Red Sovine cover) that aren’t on any other studio albums I include it here.
Comments
204 responses to “The Hyperbole’s Homebuilding Houseparty – The Penultimate Part”
Awesome article Hyperbole. Thanks for writing this series. I’ve really enjoyed them.
A fun Ride, I enjoyed it thoroughly
/HVAC/R Hell
Easy to read. This non tradesman appreciates that. Which job would be the worst? I’d imagine insulation.
Fiberglass Sucks, I work with it daily, but you get used to it, and Deal with it,
100 dollars an hour today, worked 8 hours, Fiberglass is just fine……
Roofing has some of the highest work comp rates.
Having an uncle in the trades and friends in the trades the good ones all earn their money.
I was the cleanup kid for some roofers when I was 14. Hauling garbage by wheelbarrow for 8 hours at $3 an hour. Sucked.
Roofing is the worst job. Laying floor tile is the second worst.
Agreed on roofing but I’ll lay tile all day long if the alternative is insulation or anything that has to do with sheet metal.
I good with sheet metal as long as it’s not windy.
*looks for scars on hands & arms*
Drywall blows dead dogs. I did the drywall when we built our place. Saw an episode of “This Old House” and thought “I can do that”. Yeah, right.
My last joint sucked as bad as my first one.
To do it correctly, is an art, I can finally do it well, after 20 years of learning
Yeah, I helped Dad hang drywall when he renovated the house. Hated it.
The best story was the kitchen countertop. Special order matte finish with a beveled edge. First the factory suffered a fire, delaying the order by several weeks. Then when the stuff came, it was dusty and only after cutting out a hole for the sink did we notice… it had a glossy finish.
They didn’t take the glossy stuff back, so dad was able to use it for a few projects.
For me: Flooring, roofing and mudding
Back and knees, same and freaking sanding
I know that there are many people Here who make way more than me, but being able to command 100 dollars an hour is amazing to me. I started at 5$ an hour and was happy as fuck,now, I can’t afford to live in Cali, Sad………
FWIW I don’t make anything like that but it’s steady – shit, I’m almost at my 20 year anniversary…. Either way, rock on.
When We land AZ I won’t make close to that, but I won’t need to, still awesome to be able to say that for a Junk yard Dog like me….:)
I know the feeling. My mom asked me what I would make when I got the job. She cried when I told her, she didn’t think any kid of hers would ever make that kind of money.
What the…..who the….how the……?
STROH’S ?
*falls over due to a case of the f̶a̶r̶t̶s̶ vapors*
Eat Dinner! Step away from the infected Beer! You need a Coors Light injection Stat!
SUP!
Uffda I boned the alt text (and the caption) on the Carbonara picture. Here it is – a.Mise en Place b. note the egg to grated cheese ratio c. low heat! do not burn the garlic d. timing is crucial e. that looks about right f. add pasta g. add egg/cheese note consistency h. Creamy! i. put the unused cream away j. serve with a nice hefe.
A hefe could work, but I might go with a nice bright lager to go with a Carbonara, or perhaps a nice cream ale.
Your BIF package is ready to go! Will go on the UPS truck tomorrow from work. (as long as the guys in S&R help me out)
God, I could go for a HUGE plate of carbonara right now. I just finished a week (7 continuous days since last Tuesday) of helping a neighbour paint the entire interior of his house in preparation to sell it. He couldn’t find any company to do it for him for less than 20 grand or so. And none of them could start for several months.
I charged him 500 bucks for my labour (he offered me more but I just couldn’t take it), plus a really good bottle of white wine for my wife, who volunteered me for the gig in the first place. This was one of those weeks when it would’ve been advantageous to have a full-time job rather than be retired. :-/
You da Man! 20K for paint? GTFO!
20K for paint? GTFO!
Easily, sadly. My wife’s aunt got charged 7 grand about a year ago to re-paint her new one-bedroom condo unit (only around 800 sq.ft.). No primer, just one coat of paint, included the cost of the paint.
Welcome to the Lower Mainland of B.C. — now please bend over. :-/
That is insane. I am completely useless in home stuff but even I’ve (helped) paint a room and it’s not all that difficult.
Well, parts of it are difficult to do well, but the guys who can’t guide a brush are the ones you give the roller to and instruct in the fine art of Not over-rolling. 😉
I took the brush — my neighbour’s a great guy, but he’s impatient as Hell and needs to see tangible progress every day or he starts getting irritable.
Tom Sawyer has an idea for your wife’s aunt.
As crazy as that is, the real money is in commercial painting. My neighbor was making 500k/year with a small paint company. Had 7 employees under him and a fleet of trucks and other equipment. Took jobs like the local Walmart, Dollar Generals, schools, that sort of thing.
Took up meth and lost everything, including his life last year.
Thought you had a stuffy nose when you said you had a methdorneighbor.
Comon now, a meth addiction is nothing to sneeze at.
I believe it. When I was *much* younger (think Age of Dinosaurs here, folks) me and a buddy painted a warehouse over a weekend with a gantry (for lack of a better word) on rollers, an HVLP spray gun and a lot of coffee. Made a stupid amount of money for two guys in their early twenties. I spent the rest of my summer lazing around on that cash, while he buggered off to Mexico.
I’m off to a new job this morning. One of 8 that I’m juggling at the moment. Don’t really know what the gig is. The guy that hooked me up with it has thrown me 3 or 4 gigs over the years. Hope it’s not roofing.
So you are Captain Gig? How do you do Taxes?
/Sounds Great BTW
Same way as everyone else. It’s studio work, but I’m not front of the mic this time. He wants me in the booth. First time for everything.
I love this place!
Well, shit, the Trumputin is about to speak about who the next destroyer of worlds is. I wonder which of his selection of Darth Vader Nazi masks he will be wearing when he announces the obvious doom of everything right and decent.
I’m good enough now I can Smell the tears…………………
On Faux News LOL
I’m sure they’ll be open minded. https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11100
LOL we’re doomed
It’s OK. You’ve always been doomed. You get used to it.
LOL
I will admit to cracking a smile at that.
Well played.
Paint colors
Would Kavanaughs old lady.
“Kavanaugh”, eh? That sounds suspiciously Catholic to me. Oh, he’s an only child? Never mind.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/ashley-estes-kavanaugh-brett-wife/
HAWT!
And a Catholic, so there’s a 60% chance that she’s a freak in bed.
And Bush has already hit that shit.*
*personal secretary
“Five facts you need to know.”
Do I, though?
And Kavanaugh it is.
Woops, didn’t see the new post.
My son-in-law predicted this a month ago. I just congratulated him on his foresight.
Hey TRES! how about an article on What you do? It sounds very Cool and you go Places others don’t,
what ya think?
https://twitter.com/ProducerKen/status/1016314772588060672
Don’t he look natural.
I agree with the first reply – I thought it was Dennis Rodman.
They also have interesting funeral traditions in Ghana.
Some of that laminate flooring can be slippery. When Dad did the kitchen with Pergo, the first night it was down the dog came running in for dinner. When he hit the kitchen, his legs gave out and he slid all the way across the kitchen.
Poor dog didn’t want to go in the kitchen for months, and had a mat to stand on to eat for the rest of his life.
Sounds like a Chuck Wagon commercial.
OT: Any “local” insights regarding the flooding in Japan? I apologize for asking, but I don’t see any insightful reports here – only top-line horror stories.
Most new houses have wood flooring in the kitchen and living rooms and tatami for the bedrooms (sleeping on the floor and all, but beds are becoming more common). I’ve never been to a house where you didn’t take off your shoes at the genkan. Great tradition.
Yeah. But I need a beddo.
I prefer one, too.
I saw number of people buying airweave beds in the department store. Holy cow those things are spendy.
Unless that’s some sort of miracle fiber I don’t see myself falling asleep on that.
Fishing line resin. Not sure if you’d put in the miracle fiber category. I’ve never slept on one so no idea if it works or not.
I loved those when I was a kid, with the dogs chasing the tiny chuckwagon
Gotta wonder what would happen if they caught it.
Think cars
Damn. If even half this stuff is true, you’re going to look like a real cockbag if you question this guy’s values and motivation.
What guy? Kavanaugh?
Yeah, sorry. I’m pretty sure I disagree with a few of his decisions but as a person, unless he’s a closet pedophile, his resume in life is pretty amazing.
Yeah… but, you shitlords are really gonna get it, a real socialist won in a NY deep blue district where almost no one turned out to vote! You’re doomed, Drumptards!
Lol! The funny thing is, there was no way I could vote for Trump. Everyone who held their nose and did have just been vindicated.
Christ… I had mini-argument with some new idiot at TOS today who went on (and on and on) about how stoopid all the made-up Trump names are. I was like “they’re funny”. He was like “but they have nothing to do with him”. I wanted to point out what a humorless schmuck he was being but I didn’t want to start shit.
That guy was being an insufferable prick.
He has an impeccable resume. The exact sort of Washington critter who checks ever box, but I refuse to call that “amazing.” And he seems pretty thoroughly statist, just a more reliably conservative one.
Everything is going to boil down to shrieking about MUH ABORTIONZ. But he’s going to suck from a libertarian perspective on a lot of issues.
If he truly holds to the Constitution as written, I’m fucking thrilled. Only time will tell. I never underestimate the ability of a human being to go off the rails like Roberts did.
From what I read, he thinks the Commerce Clause allows Congress to force us to buy health insurance.
So, you’re saying he’s basically Pentaltax v. 2.0?
Basically, more “judicial deference” to the legislature.
You know, instead of doing their fucking job.
If he truly holds to the Constitution as written…
…I will push a potato across Boise with my Jew nose. There are few things certain in this world, but someone who holds to the constitution as written ending up on the SC will certainly never happen.
Ok, but east-west or vice versa. No cheating by going north down Vista & Capitol.
We don’t allow your kind here.
At least we get to enjoy another round of bigotry from Feinstein. Yay!
I’m looking forward to hearing from people who had no idea who this dude was yesterday, explaining why he is either a first class asshole or the best melon farmer you could find.
Secret HYDRA Nazi in three… two…
I got all excited when I found out he’s from Maryland, but then it turns out he’s from Bethesda, so it’s kind of a wash.
So, if he’s from Murlan, what is it? About 99.999% chance he’s a commie? Or am I under guesstimating it?
I looked like a cockbag that last time you and I did framing and drywall. It was a perfect job, not a single 90 degree angle in the entire room.
Fuck you. It was perfect until we hung the door. And you know quite well what fucked that up.
You mean “who,” not “what.” I’d say a certain Irishman.
I think you were in charge of the papers. I could be wrong. It’s all a little fuzzy.
Just in case you felt unaffected, the ‘World As We Know It’ has ended. A new era of Oppression has begun. God help us all.
This is the dawning of the age of oppression?
IDK has a certain ring
I can’t wait to buy slaves!
I could use a few, Know a good Dealer?
Well, Sloopy does auctions…
“I totally disagree with this choice and think my version of oppression is superior.” /Incoming news cycle.
Welp, time to invest in coat hangers.
I larfed which surprises no one.
I sent her a special baby shower gift.
Nice:) lol
For reference, that’s the first comic of that webcomic, and it’s never really backed down or apologized for those kind of jokes. There’s a reason I keep hitting it daily even as the updates get less frequent (a move and a kid will do that to you).
Posted this morning, but this like the last aisle at Home Depot.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/MaedehHojabri
I mean, not only is she a total smokeshow, but she actually seems to be legitimately a very good dancer.
CNC Countertop Factory
My college years just flashed before my eyes.
What I find interesting is that the left says that whoever the pick is, they will shred the Constitutiom. I’m sorry but is that not your end game?
At least back 100 years ago they were honest about their contempt for the Constitution. Now they have to play these word games where they’re for the Constitution, except that every word in it is the opposite of what it means.
Constitutions are only important when Democrats are losing. Deficits are only important when Democrats are losing. Need I go on?
They’re using a different Constitution.
It’s somewhere right there in the commie manifesto.
At least they’re not calling it lynching
TW: Vice
Well, at least they’re trying antifa also, right?
I’m going to start throwing neo before everything I want to sound scary.
You know who else inspired throwing “neo” before everything?
The Matrix?
But they had psychological injuries !*
*runs sobbing from the room
Please, please, let it be so
Oh… I will start believing in an invisible sky god if it’s true. Not that I didn’t predict it right after the election of 2016. but please, please, let it be so.
Stop trying to make fetch happen.
Clinton v. Trump 2: Cryptkeeper boogaloo
I can just see 4 black clad ‘men in black’ types carrying Hillary out of a venue, her shaking like an epileptic seizure, one shoe off, and CNN saying ‘Oh look, an exhausted Hillary, never ceasing to work for the American people, is just waving to her adoring fans here.’.
Samantha Micelli is on it
Sad.
You know, I hate to break it to them, but sometimes it is just best to be honest and tell it like it is. There is exactly jack fucking shit they can do about this, Kavanaugh is going to be on the supreme court, for better or worse, bar a dinosaur killing asteroid or all out nuclear war. They should just have a drink and man up, put on their big boy jammies. Fucking losers.
I thought we were against separating children from their parents this week.
But only if we can reduce the voting age to 5 and get them their voter registration right away.
5…months?
I noticed an argument where someone said ‘good abortion will be illegal now’ and the other saying it ‘won’t disappear just more dangerous’.
I have no idea but is the latter prog speak along the lines of ‘if we don’t pay taxes who will build the roads’ or ‘why do you hate the children?’ or does it have merit?
No one is overturning Roe v. Wade.
Even though it’s incoherent gibberish.
I’m pretty sure the left just had a Mad Lib with a blank space waiting to fill in a name.
I don’t know how anyone on Fox News can talk with Brett Kavanaugh’s entire cock and balls in their mouth.
Meanwhile, MSNBC-13 are RHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!ELEVEN!!!!!!!!!
This is just one of many reasons why I do not watch TV news. Why would I have to? I found out here Kavanaugh was the pick even though I was refreshing Drudge Report every one minute. No need to be a glutton for punishment.
^this….
The only TV news I watch is a few minutes of NY1 in the morning to catch the weather. And even then it’s endless Trump Trump Trump snicker those crazy evil Hitlerpublicans again OMG make it stop.
It’s probably been at least 20 years since I was able to even watch any local news broadcasts, because every fucking day it was nothing but ‘This scariest new drug sweeping the nation is the scariest ever new drug ever sweeping the nation, since yesterday! Now with moar scarier!’. *barf*
I was hoping to see something less retarded than this:
https://work.qz.com/1324024/our-struggle-for-equal-pay-starts-with-childhood-allowances-parents-pay-boys-more-than-girls/
Nope… pass….
Get ready for three months of the same.
Fox will dial it down to just licking the shaft.
Yep. And the other side will dial it up to an anal dry fuck from John Holmes.
I can’t believe you went with the still photo of Tom Waits albums, rather than this.
Thanks TH for the series! Landscaping?…
make sure the water at the sink is hot, but not too hot
Fuckers… can’t get water hot enough for a bath anymore.
Lachowsky made A boiler for his HVAC System, I’m sure we could to that to your Hot Water System, how hot do you want it?
The input temp isn’t the problem. It’s these new safety faucets in bathtubs with temperature regulators. And no override.
Fuck you Congress.
Call me, I know a Guy……..
The still was my kidnapper’s type proof of life photo, anyone can grab a video off YouTube but you have the whole shebang between two ice cold Strohs? that’s authentification right there.
^that’s why this guy is the expert
I only know Bone Machine which was a minor hit with my friends and me especially since I actually wore a bone machine after breaking my arm thanks to some quack doctor in Buffalo.
STEVE SMITH HAVE BONE MACHINE!
LIKE SYBIAN. BUT IT KEEP GOING UNTIL STEVE SMITH SAY DONE!
The other thing I remember is we wanted to see him play but it was like a hundred bucks a ticket. Too much for our poor asses.
TSA spill the ashes of A.J. Francis’s mother.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/giants-tackle-a-j-francis-furious-with-tsa-over-mothers-spilled-ashes-in-his-suitcase/
Sigh. I get it, but what is the need here to “take to Twitter” with multiple expletive-laden rants? Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
Who the fuck puts ashes in checked luggage? Hand carry that shit dumbass. I guess mom doesn’t mean all that much to him.
I can’t make it out but is that pancetta/guanciale?
Diced Pancetta, garlic, parsley and red pepper flakes. And tons of Black Pepper, natch.
Noyce.
Dave Rubin does well here,
https://youtube.com/watch?v=35AxkSgQUTI
Hype,
Great order for the Waits records.
Mule variations has been one of my favorites. His new stuff is so good. I still like Rain Dogs and some of the other Island records Stuff.
I was surprised myself, I would have guessed Small Change or Nighthawks would have been at the top, but I took each album and compared it to the next and said if I had to throw one of these away which one would it be? and Mule Variations and Blue Valentine just stood out. MV may have some better songs but BV is just perfect front to back.
I like BV, but I would have made BloodMoney higher. Personal preference due to buying it the week after I met my future wife.
Even the worst TW album is better than 92% of the rest of the shit out there, on any given day the bottom half of that list could easily be rearranged, but I stand firmly by my top seven picks.
Uh huh-huh. You said, “stand firmly.”
I have loved this series, Hyperbole.
*glances at title*
I hope it’s not quite over!
*grabs dictionary*
Nope. There’s one more, SP!
This Bullshit is getting an article, Fucking commies!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1ITzY7fNopM
Zimbabwe 2.0. Clearly, Africa is the new frontier of progress and technology.
Since Q is still on vacation….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5935543/Danielle-Savre-flaunts-braless-cleavage-sheer-floral-dress-LaPalme-magazine.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5934805/Padma-Lakshmi-47-shares-stunning-throwback-bikini-photo.html
Mike Wallace interviews Rod Serling, 1959, Awesome stuff!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZpKkHCVbSyw
This is Is Good,
He was interesting af but TL;DW right now.
I was visiting my family’s house for the 4th last week and thier neibor was building a deck on his above ground pool. I asked my dad if he was making a deck to park his car on. He was using 8×8 posts, 2×12 joists, double beams, and 4 foot deep footers. The deck was free standing and only about 4 feet of the ground.
My dad informed me that he asked the code enforcement officer for a permit and this is what he was told to use to meet code. I read my town and his building codes and none of this was required For a freestanding deck of that hight.
This is why there was no attempt at a permit for my deck even though I built it strong and safe using the proper materials for the loads it was to see.
4×4 posts, 4×6 stringers, and 1″ 1/8 Tongue and groove, that’s basic code for Cali, and it’s a good Example of good Construction. there are many Variables , but that’s Overkill…..
T&G for a deck? You want space between the deck boards for water to escape…
And 4X6 stringers sound like over kill, but earthquakes I guess?
I have the prints, want em?
No doubt it’s overkill. It tells me the code guy is some idiot that got his job based on connections not competency.
My former colleague is a mechanical engineer, from U of Kentucky. He was frustrating to deal with if only because he was diligent about all his measurements and calculations to the point it would slow a project down. I’d heard stories from other staff about “you really need to see the deck he built- its a testament to over-engineering”. I finally got to see it, and it was impressive- 8 x 8s, 4 x 4s, and hand-cut true 2 x 4s, and all the hardware was 316 stainless. I dont know that someone could park a 60ton M1 Abrams on it w/o it collapsing, but if they did? I wouldnt be shocked.
Stainless fasteners and hardware is damm expensive, 316 is even more so. Was his deck on the ocean or a bay?
If I was really interested in making mine over engineered I would have used 6×6 posts and joists on 12” centers.
No, it was in W. Kentucky
Sometimes, overdoing it is a bad thing.
Boston is angling to become the Seattle of the east coast.
Boston weighs giving legal, non-US citizens voting rights
Take that, Trump!
Take that,
TrumpDrumpf!Speaking of code violations…
I hope ICE retaliates by arresting Portland officials for hindering immigration enforcement.
The scariest Twilite Zone, Very Glib
IT’S A COOKBOOK!
and maybe a link, Derp!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BEy9Z44GXyc
That is certainly one of the best episodes. I think my fav is the Meredith Burgess “broken glasses” episode.
I think the other Burgess Meredith episode where he’s about to be put to death for being “obsolete” is one of the finest.
I had forgotten that one. Yes, it is excellent.
And thanks for politely correcting me on his name…I guess that’s a good sign that it’s past time to go to sleep.
I didn’t even notice until I after I reread my response. Also time for sleep.
YOU ARE OBSOLETE! OBSOLETE! Great episode
and Lloyd Bochner was a great actor
Room for one more, honey FTW!
Donna Dixon, very Hot,
No Change! No Change at all!
Peace out Glibs! Day 9 of 12 Approaches, I’m tired……………….
Summing up the thread:
1: Drywall isn’t hard, I just don’t know why we use it. You have to cut it, then hang it, then mud, then sand it, then mud it, then sand it, then paint it, then paint it. Just hang something on the damn wall that’s done after you hang it!
2: Scotus, I don’t want to undercut myself in case I find some good audio bits for a Hat and Hair, so no comment.
3: Codes, where we’re going we don’t need codes! (Line from the unfinished student film ‘Back to Libertopia’)
Just hang something on the damn wall that’s done after you hang it!
They tried that in the 70’s…it didn’t take.
damn it.