How Bout a Cold Brew?

Sorry for the clickbait, but I know what sells around here. Now if you came here today expecting to read about beer and are going to click off because this is about coffee, stay for just a minute. About a month ago, a coworker noted how much coffee I drink, which started a conversation about how little she drinks. “It’s just so bitter.” I explained the virtues of the cold brew method and this past week she told me how it completely changed her view on coffee. Every time she makes a cup she waits for the bitter bite but it never comes and is now drinking more coffee than ever. So stick with me if you think coffee is too bitter as we explore what cold brew coffee is and how you can make it at home.

So what is cold brew coffee? Is it just another hipster fad to sell expensive coffee to basement dwellers? Well, yes and no. I know hipsters get a lot of flak here, but they have pushed the boundaries of good food and drink. CB coffee does have some chemistry to back up the hype of superior coffee in the cup. Some people are under the impression that CB coffee is just cold coffee. Although you can serve cold brew coffee over ice, you can also serve it hot, in coffee based drinks or use it for cooking. What makes cold brew cold is the brewing process, not the way it is served. Cold brewing extracts coffee at a lower temperature over a longer period of time. The real magic that the CB process brings is lower tannic acid. Tannic acid is responsible for the bitter/burnt flavor some people find off putting in coffee. Cold brewing also extract less caffeine, although it is not “caffeine free”. Less caffeine and less acid mean less stress on the stomach and a smoother, sweeter cup. Interested in trying it yourself? Read on friend.

To make your very own cold brew at home you will need a cold brew coffee maker, obviously. Now before you say “Florida Man, I just blew my last paycheck on Blue Mountain Jamaican and a conical burr grinder,” take a breath. A decent cold brew system can be had for 15-20 bucks. I don’t know what that is in shekels so OMWC will have to do his own conversion. A cold brew coffee maker consist of a tube filter inside of a pitcher. The process is simple and pretty much fool proof. You’ll want to stick with a coarse grind, because it will give you a cleaner finished product and a fine grind will heat the coffee defeating the whole purpose. If you haven’t bought a conical burr grinder yet, fear not. Most specialty coffee shops and grocery stores will grind your whole been coffee to order. I would also suggest looking for a medium roast bean if you are trying to avoid that burnt taste. If you want even lower caffeine content, select a dark roast. Now that you have your coarse ground beans, simply fill the filter with ground coffee and fill the pitcher with filtered water. Some people use room temperature water and leave it to brew on the counter for 24-48 hours. I use cold water and let it brew in the fridge for 48 hours. Try it both ways and see what works for you. After the 24-48 hours you remove the center filter and now have a concentrated smooth, low acid coffee. “Now what, Florida Man?” Glad you asked.

If you want a regular cup of Joe, just add hot water to your cold coffee concentrate. I fill half my mug with CBC and top it off with hot water. Add cream and sugar to taste. If you enjoy cold drinks, pour over ice, add cold water or cream and sugar to taste. I don’t make specialty coffee drinks, but if you do, just remember that this coffee is concentrated and make adjustments accordingly. Feel free to post recipes in the comments for drinks, desserts or even cooking with coffee. So on to the pros and cons of this system.

Pro:
Taste: Smooth, sweet coffee
Reduced Acid: for those with sensitive tummies (lower caffeine)
Convenient: you don’t have to baby sit this while it brews.
Cost: The system is cheap.
Clean up: Carafe does double duty, less to wash

Con:
Taste: Hey wait! Yes I put it in both pro & con. Some people like bitter (see IPA drinkers)
Inefficient: The coffee to water ratio is higher than hot brew systems.
Time: You can’t make a quick cold brew. You need to plan 24 hours in advance.
Flexibility: This could be a pro. There are less variable with cold brew. You can adjust grind and steep time, but that is about it.

Because of the warm response I received for my last article, I have invested my hard earned dollars in not one, but seven brew methods. I’ll write up a “how to” for the others with my famous pro/con opinions. Then, for a grand finale, I plan to do a blind taste test and crown a winner for best brew method. If you have any questions let me know in the comment section.

Comments

190 responses to “How Bout a Cold Brew?”

  1. PieInTheSKy

    I am having a cold DAB beer could not find something better. It is 19 09 so not to early. That being said i am an espresso man and best tastes are bitter tastes

  2. Caput Lupinum

    15 to 20 bucks is 53 to 72 Shekels, plus or minus a foreskin for shipping.

    1. Jarflax

      Don’t you mean snipping?

      1. *narrows gaze*

  3. PieInTheSKy

    So what is cold brew coffee? Is it just another hipster fad to sell expensive coffee to basement dwellers? – no no about it

      1. Florida Man

        Lol. How did you get into my house.

  4. I drink Diet Pop in the morning for caffeine because I don’t like coffee.

    Yes I call it pop. Yes I said I don’t like coffee.

    WANNA MAKE SOMETHING OF IT?!

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Speaking lower class vernacular is nothing to be ashamed of

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        But drinking diet soda is.

        1. *crumples Coke Zero can*

          Oh?

          *winds crossbow*

          1. trshmnstr

            *Joins Swiss’s coke zero army*

          2. *salutes trshmnstr*

          3. Rasilio

            Shouldn’t that be

            *Polishes Halberd*

    2. Negroni Please

      but…but… you went to grad school. Nobody survives grad school without coffee….

      I almost completely replaced my blood with coffee once. I don’t recommend that though.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Yes I call it pop.

      Ugggh.

      *logs off*

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Straight up flyover talk. I bet he eats supper too.

        1. You coastal elites are so disconnected from the real people of this world. Go back to smelling your own farts while drinking your fair trade, organic, locally sourced, artisanal “soda” that you bought at the farmer’s market and packed into your Tesla.

          1. Spudalicious

            What’s wrong with smelling your own farts?

      2. commodious spittoon
    4. The Other Kevin

      It is called pop, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise. Worst are the ones who call it a “soft drink”.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I just call it by what its called, easily done by reading what is written on the can.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Airman: Sgt Sharpshooter, what are you doing this weekend?
            Me: I’m on standby.
            Airman: Sucks to be you.
            Me: Not really. I’m doing the Four Loko Challenge, so it sucks to be the fire dept.

    5. CPRM

      I drink water in the morning because I don’t like caffeine.

    6. Some of us don’t like beer.

    7. Galt1138

      I call it pop as well. Got used to calling it that growing up in the midwest.

      But, I do love coffee. Despite my love of IPAs, and espresso, I’m not a big fan of bitter coffee for my regular morning cuppajoe.

  5. After dinner and drinking (and smoking) with OMWC & SP last night, I could use another cup of coffee. Too bad I didn’t plan ahead, like, at all. Keurig kcups will just have to get me through the rest of the day!

    1. PieInTheSKy

      Why do you hate the enviroment?

      1. What did the environment ever do for me? 😉

        1. Jarflax

          Backdrop for sweaty construction workers?

    2. SoberPhobic

      +1 Double black diamond coffee and splash of ole smokey mudslide bourbon

  6. Negroni Please

    I like cold brew, but I’m both lazy and impatient. 90% of my coffee consumption is hot coffee via aeropress. For cold brew I just buy it in the store (mmmmmm Stumptown). Thank you capitalism.

    1. Oooh, I love Stumptown coffee. I just found a place in town that very specifically only uses Stumptown beans, but I haven’t had a chance to try it out yet.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Corporate sibling of Keurig, Peet’s, & Caribou.

        1. Negroni Please

          Purchased by Peet’s a few years ago. It wasn’t exactly a corporate giant before that.

        2. Huh! I didn’t know that. But I have a generally favorable opinion of Peet’s and Caribou (in that order), too.

      2. Negroni Please

        I tried Stumptown for the first time in Portland. Internet ravings and local hype made me give it a shot and I fully expected it to be stupid hipster bullshit. My attitude at the time was “coffee is fucking coffee.” nope. Stumptown made me a believer. Holy shit it’s sooo good.

        1. Florida Man

          It’s fun to introduce people to really good coffee.

        2. Truly. I had to get my hair done at a new place because my regular gal is out of commission right now. As a courtesy, they ask if you want coffee or tea while you’re waiting. On a fatigued whim I said sure. I got a single sip before my appointment started, and I spent the entire half hour she was cutting my hair waiting to get back to that cup of coffee. It was tepid by that time, but still really, actually good

    2. PieInTheSKy

      I have an espresso machine with company provided coffee at work so that is most of my caffeine. It is actually a decent coffee not supermarket crap although it is one of those automatic espresso machines that grinds and brews the coffee, so you can not tweak it like a hipster barista. But you know it don’t cost nothing (it actually does obviously like everything but it is free at the point of delivery)

    3. Brett L

      Get a Toddy. Its easy. Coarse grind, layer coffee, water, coffee, water. Leave for 2 days. pull the plug. Drink straight up or cut with water.

      1. Brett L

        In 1998, I worked at a coffee roaster and shop. We did it this way and it was great. I have one. Need to break it out — and the roaster, and the aeropress.

        1. Negroni Please

          Ruta Maya? In 1995-1997 I used to go to Ruta Maya exclusively because they would happily sell cigarettes to underage kids. Fond memories.

          1. Brett L

            Trianon. They had one over in West Lake Hills, but I worked the one on Far West Blvd.

          2. Negroni Please

            Yeah I remember Trianon. Even though it was close to my high school we never went there for some reason. It was always Ruta Maya for cigarettes, Mozart’s for dates (dessert on the lake), or Spider House when we wanted to pretend we were cool.

          3. Brett L

            Trianon was a rich wife of a Lebanese psychiatrist side project. He was an excellent coffee roaster and knew his stuff. Everything else was arty baskets and Lindor truffles. They weren’t really sit-down and hang out coffee shops. Unless I cleaned the espresso machine more than 10 minutes before close.

          4. Negroni Please

            That makes sense. I remember Trianon. I lived in Westlake and on Far West, yet I can’t recall ever going into a Trianon location.

        2. Florida Man

          Aeropress is one of the 7 systems I bought. It’ll get its day.

    4. Aeropress!

      Whatever your thoughts as to Black Rifle Coffee Company they were a big advocate of Aeropress when I first started getting coffee from them a couple of years ago, and I’ll be forever grateful. I love me an Aeropress. In the morning I’m a Bunn drip guy because we’re talking two pots between my wife and I before we get out the door, but if I’m just looking for a cup or two in the afternoon or evening, the Aeropress is my usual go-to. I find it will make even bad coffee taste at least mediocre.

  7. PieInTheSKy

    Also why does coffee need to f and two e letter? That is silly. cafea is much better.

    1. mr simple

      We all need to f, sometimes.

  8. So – you talk about adding hot water to your “concentrated” cold brew….what’s the average ratio? It can’t be that strong to begin with.

    1. Florida Man

      I do 50/50. I know some people that think that is too strong. Ultimately it’s up to individual preference.

  9. Drake

    OT: Mike Pampeo’s Twitter has me laughing out loud.

    1. “BREAKING: 9th Circuit Court orders Kim Jong Un to continue his development of nuclear weapons.”

      LOL

      1. Same guy who does/did Sean Spicier?

  10. SoberPhobic

    TY Cold brew sounds interesting, may have to try it.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Feral pig? Boar? Smallish dog?

  11. mexican sharpshooter

    If you want a regular cup of Joe, just add hot water to your cold coffee concentrate

    Wait, so I shouldn’t just leave it overnight in the mason jar setup I have and drink it directly?

    1. Florida Man

      You can, if you like it cold and strong.

      1. mexican sharpshooter
        1. Florida Man

          Great show.

  12. The Other Kevin

    Could you use a french press for this? Sounds like a similar contraption. Plus I already have one of those.

    1. Florida Man

      I guess if you mix the grounds and water and let it sit it could work. My concern is the coffee would settle to the bottom and you would get less extraction. The center column in the COld brewer allows for greater surface contact.

      1. Brett L

        If you layer coffee grounds and water — say lay down 1/3rd of the grounds and wet them with 1/3rd of the water, x3, you’ll get a pretty even distribution. It just needs to sit for a long time, so its not much fun to do in a small batch.

        1. Florida Man

          I think you would need to experiment a little. If you like tinkering then save $20 and use a French press you already have.

    2. The Other Kevin

      I did some googling, and it is possible. Worth an experiment this weekend.

    3. Nephilium

      Yes, yes you can.

    4. AlmightyJB

      I use a french press and it works great. Mix water and coarse ground coffee in french press container. Cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate over night. In morning just press and pour and heat cup in microwave. I use more coffee than I do for hot brew.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I’ll usually give a nice stir inorning before pressing as well.

        1. Florida Man

          Great tips. Thanks!

      2. The Other Kevin

        Thanks, sounds easy.

  13. AlmightyJB

    I do cold brew on the weekends occasionally and I do prefer it to the hot brew.

  14. OT: This guy seems to show up in tabloids every year or so to talk about how his enormous dick has ruined his “acting career” and how it garners so much unwanted attention.

    http://archive.is/qtdnY

    #1 if the attention was really unwanted, why are you whoring yourself out to tabloids and wearing Lycra biker shorts? #2, I fail to understand how you are somehow at higher risk for penile fractures, unless you have a difficult time keeping it fully erect (which I suppose is a distinct possibility packing that kind of heat).

    1. Negroni Please

      “When I’m fully hard I’m 13 and a half inches with a seven and a half to eight inch diameter.”

      WTF? Is he confusing diameter with circumference? Cuz who the hell wants to get fucked by an 8″ diameter cock?

      1. trshmnstr

        Gaia herself?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          “Fracking”

          1. His dick will be banned by the EPA.

      2. I’m pretty sure he means circumference. But it would actually be rather comical if it were, in fact, 8″ in diameter.

        1. Negroni Please

          No kidding. “I’m hung like a gallon of milk. Who want’s some?”

          1. Raven Nation

            NP: from last post and something I may have already asked you (apologies if that’s the case): you teach college history. Just curious as to your specialty, etc.

          2. Negroni Please

            I teach community college history so really I’m more of an adult babysitter than anything. My actual education is in early medieval, but I teach American since that’s what the demand is.

            My wife is a Mech. E. prof and we moved here for her job, and a CC gig is just what I happened to land. It’s been really fun so far. It’s forced me to brush up on all kinds of things that I more or less ignored.

          3. Raven Nation

            Cool, thanks.

            When I took my current job they wanted me to teach World History (in addition to my specialty) which required a lot of quick reading but I enjoy it as I get to provide a somewhat different spin on events than most profs.

          4. Negroni Please

            I would love to teach a World History or Western Civ class. My background is all late antiquity and medieval. Grad school forced me to do a fair bit of early modern European stuff too.

            Taking this job to teach American freaked me out. I took one American history class in college (tested out of the other required course) and zero in grad school. I knew some “factual” stuff because I’m history nerd, but I have literally no background in the historiography.

            Because I’m a nerd, I freaked out and did a shitload of reading to prepare only to start teaching and realize my students are mostly illiterate and retarded and I could say anything I want and receive the same blank stares.

            Still glad I did all the background reading though.

          5. Raven Nation

            Yeah, I used to joke I could teach that the Germans won WWII and no one would notice. Now I’m not so sure it’s a joke. I’d be happy to throw a few titles on 1600 & 1700 North America your way if you’re interested.

          6. Negroni Please

            Hell yeah. That would be awesome. You can email me at guthrum at gmail or just post a list here for the other nerds to peruse as well. Thanks Raven.

          7. Gustave Lytton

            Could also post them here. I bet I’m not the only other person who would be interested.

          8. Raven Nation

            Will do. Give me a couple of days: the next few are filled with long-distance airport runs, grading, et al.

          9. pistoffnick

            Negroni wrote: “I teach community college history so really I’m more of an adult babysitter than anything.”

            Don’t sell yourself short. The best math teacher I ever had was was at community college. He made calculus easier than highschool algebra.

          10. Brett L

            Don’t sell yourself short. The best math teacher I ever had was was at community college. He made calculus easier than highschool algebra.

            Same for me with physics. Guy had a PhD in Nuclear Physics from a Big 10 school and looked like it. Excellent teacher, just liked teaching more than research.

          11. Galt1138

            Cool.
            I enjoyed the history courses at https://www.libertyclassroom.com/ Worth checking out.

          12. “want’s”?

            What kind of monster are you?

      3. Spudalicious

        Hillary?

    2. Drake

      People at work are wondering why I’m giggling.

  15. trshmnstr

    8ve never had a problem with cold brew. Every one I’ve tried has been good. Maybe not knock my socks off good, but definitely missing all of the bitter notes that make me instead drink tea. I just can’t work up the motivation to do cold brew coffee. Perhaps I should change my mind and give it a try. At the very least maybe I’ll pick up a cup of cold brew from the vendor at the farmers market this weekend.

    *goes to brew some more earl grey*

    1. Florida Man

      I think cold brew is great if you have a coffee you already like and want to try it in a different way. I had my in laws over and roasted some coffee. I made the same coffee three different ways and they were shocked to learn it was all the same coffee.

  16. OT but hilarious.

    Boucher found the pile of tree limbs and other flotsam “unsightly,” according to new court documents first reported by The Associated Press. Even though it wasn’t on his property, Boucher could see the pile from his back patio.

    It sat there for weeks.

    In October, Boucher had the branches loaded into portable dumpsters and carried off.

    But then, other piles appeared — two of them.

    Boucher poured gasoline on the woodpiles and incinerated them, giving himself second-degree burns in the process..

    1. trshmnstr

      Dude would’ve killed me in my sleep if he could’ve seen my yard. Thankfully, my neighbors don’t give a shit.

    2. The thing I don’t like about this is that somehow the penalties would be harsher if it were “politically motivated”. Why should it matter? It was a pretty brutal assault and almost 2 years in jail sounds fair to me. We’ll see if it actually comes to that.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Was the debris in a pond or other body of water? It’s not flotsam if it isn’t. And if it is, jetsam would be the correct term.

      What a dumbass. Use kerosene for starting a burn pile.

      1. Caput Lupinum

        Only if the debris cane from a ship, and it would only be jetsam if it was deliberately tossed, flotsam if it came from a wreck. I don’t thing the finer points of maritime law pedantry have any bearing in Bowling Green anyway; regardless, flotsam has acquired a secondary definition of “people or things that have been rejected and are regarded as worthless”, because we ran out of words for trash at some point apparently.

        1. Detritus: dead particulate organic material typically including the bodies or fragments of dead organisms as well as fecal material

          1. trshmnstr

            Aka, a woodpile

          2. Caput Lupinum

            I figured you’d just call it “home”.

          3. trshmnstr

            I like my trash fires in dumpsters and other containers.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      giving himself second-degree burns in the process

      Idiot can’t even burn a trashpile properly

      1. Sean

        How is this not arson? Didn’t Rand see big burn patches on his lawn? This whole thing just got even more confusing to me.

        1. I think they’re desperate to try and establish that the assault really was motivated by disputes over landscaping since, as it says in the article, if it’s politically motivated (which it almost certainly was) he faces stiffer penalties.

          1. Drake

            They are desperate to prove that Rand deserved a serious beating,

        2. Drake

          Maybe the 2nd pile of wood was placed there to cover up the big burn spot?

    5. The yard debris allegations are a “false narrative,” said Paul’s Deputy Chief of Staff Sergio Gor. In the decade preceding the incident, Paul had never spoken with the man who attacked him, Gor said.

    6. Mad Scientist

      It’s a good thing none of his other neighbors have piles of leaves in their yards to tempt this guy into trespassing, arson, and assault. Nope. Not a single one of them. No way is this politically motivated.

    7. CPRM

      I can attest that some fabrics are not suitable to wear when burning a brush pile. Make sure your clothes aren’t super flammable.

  17. OT: So does this mean the government has to go out and redig these potholes to avoid being embarrassed?

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dominos-pizza-unveils-u-s-infrastructure-project-filling-potholes-130802630.html

    1. trshmnstr

      But muh roadzzzzzzzz!,!!!

    2. Caput Lupinum

      Probably. With the advent of fracking in Pennsylvania, there are a lot of old country roads that are getting destroyed, as they were never designed to handle the volume of heavy truck traffic that they’re now getting. Some of the fracking companies decided to pave the roads, because the crappy infrastructure made it harder for them to do their jobs, and they’d mollify the locals somewhat as well. The state made them rip up the road, and they aren’t allowed to pave again.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        So what you are saying is, a private company found it in their interest to not only repair, but improve a public road…and the state made them tear it up?

        ….SMDH

        1. Caput Lupinum

          On the upside, the way that Pennsylvania taxes fracking keeps most of the taxes collected in the county the fracking takes place in, so the rural counties have more money than they know what to do with. Because of that, road maintenance on the backwoods roads that have suffered the most has improved considerably. The state roads out there still suck, however.

          1. Timeloose

            My motorcycle habit has greatly appreciated the fraking companies for both the improved roads and better cell coverage in the hinterlands of Bradford county.

          2. Caput Lupinum

            I’m from the next county over, Susquehanna, though I’m down in Philly now. The roads are still terrible, but the fracking companies have at least made them navigable.

          3. Timeloose

            I remember, don’t forget we met. I remember and Pepperidge farms remembers.

          4. Caput Lupinum

            I’ve been in meetings most of the day; I remembered about thirty seconds after I hit submit. The Bradford county the me off, since we met in Luzerne.

  18. Enough About Palin

    “It’s a little early in the day, but…”

    It’s 5:00 am somewhere…

  19. Raven Nation

    OT: “Real Madrid have appointed Spain manager Julen Lopetegui as their new head coach on a three-year deal.”

    Full story: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44459380

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I went looking for a Simpsons gif to mock soccer….

      Man, I totally forgot that one of the best episodes of the Simpsons ever started with a soccer riot.

      1. Florida Man

        I watched hours and hours of soccer. I almost saw a goal.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Ties? You bet!

          You’ll see all of your favorite stars… like Ariaga, Ariaga II, Bariaga, Aruglia, Pinxosa

          1. Raven Nation

            Holds it. Holds it! HOLDS IT!!

          2. Chipwooder

            Hank Hill: Bobby, I didn’t think I’d ever have to tell you this, but I would be a bad parent if I didn’t: soccer was invented by European ladies to keep them busy while their husbands did the cooking.

          3. trshmnstr

            I keep trying to get my (Texas native) wife to watch King of the hill, but she doesn’t like “cartoons” ?

          4. Chipwooder

            Oh man, if she’s a Texan she’s denying herself something she would adore. Every Texan I’ve ever known is a huge KotH fan.

          5. trshmnstr

            She would absolutely love it if she watched a few episodes. It pretty much functioned as a cultural Rosetta stone for me moving down there.

  20. Rebel Scum

    expecting to read about beer

    Joke’s on you. I’ve been meaning to get into cold brewing coffee.

    1. Florida Man

      Ive introduces 2 coworkers to cold brewing and they both love it. It is a really approachable system.

  21. OT: Yes, let’s call our core fans racist, sexist, homophobic, backwards knuckledraggers. It’s worked so well elsewhere.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2018/06/08/kathleen-kennedy-is-still-the-best-person-to-make-star-wars-movies/#56689b1a3b10

    The Last Jedi (and The Force Awakens) sucked because the story and characters take a back seat to the SJW horseshit. I couldn’t give two shits if the main character is female, as long as she’s a decent character. Whatever-the-fuck-her-name-is (how shitty is a character whose name you can’t even remember?) is a Mary Sue cipher through which Kennedy can engage in wish fulfillment about her fantasies of being a swash buckling super-grrrl that feminists her way to the top while defeating evil white-hetero-patriarchy. Put another way: she’s a boring, shallow protagonist that does nothing to entertain and stimulate the imagination. Thus: people bailed on Solo, and unless Kennedy is sacked, will likely bail on all future SW installments (I know I will). Not specifically due to backlash against her SJW-feminist agenda, but because her SJW-feminist agenda makes for shitty, boring movies.

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Liberals used to be able to make good movies. This SJW garbage ruins everything.

    2. Florida Man

      I’ve been slowly cutting off all media. If it was just me it would be a total blackout, but I’m having to extract my wife. Unfortunately I have no way to cut her FB access.

      1. trshmnstr

        Completely worth it. Got off of fb (as did my wife, but she rejoined because some church group was coordinating on there), cut cable, and heavily use the DVR when watching local TV. It completely changes the tenor of the news when it we don’t hear about the day-to-day stuff. My mom talks with me about the news of the day, and I have no idea what she’s talking about half the time. The other half, I only know about it from reading it here.

        1. Florida Man

          I only had FB for a couple months in 2009. The media blackout has been great for me. People will come up to me “ did you see what Trump did?” Me: “no” *walks away*

          1. Raven Nation

            I still use FB as it helped me first regain, then maintain, contact with friends all over the world. That said, Nov. 2016 saw a precipitous decline in my use.

          2. trshmnstr

            I did lose contact with a few people, but the contact with them was so superficial and fleeting that it didn’t really have any true effect. They all have my phone number if they want to grab a cold brew coffee next time they’re in town.

            I don’t judge folks who use fb or other social media (I still have Instagram), but I have zero sympathy when they start complaining about how awful the world is.

          3. Florida Man

            I just think FB can be toxic. Same thing with the news.

    3. Florida Man

      If we’d been aware of all of the arguments, tensions, and troubled productions during the original Star Wars trilogy, would fans and media have called for studio heads and producers to be removed from the franchise?-

      Yeah. Nobody has been critical of white male George Lucas’s Ewoks or Jar Jar Binks.

    4. Brett L

      I appreciated old, grouchy Luke, but I think the universe would have been done a favor if he’d had too much Ewok liquor and fallen off a tree house at the end of RotJ.

      1. The Last American Hero

        A stunning plot twist that nobody would have seen coming.

    5. Urthona

      To be honest, I never noticed the SJW shit. Just not a detector of that.

      1. Florida Man

        I didn’t notice SJW stuff, I just found the last movie dull. I found TFA cringe worthy in many scenes.

    6. Gilmore

      I find nothing more pathetic than people applauding themselves for injecting token (minority-group) characters into an already super-successful franchise.

      It literally does nothing for those groups – in fact it highlights their dependence on the historic achievements of others. It *infantilizes* them by throwing them bones, as tho they have nothing interesting sui generis to themselves.

      What is a female luke skywalker? Its just a male-character with tits. Its not uniquely female or a story about esssentially-feminine points of view. its grafting the appearance of feminism onto a ‘sir galahad’ story that has been repeated in – yes, male driven – myth forever.

      the most ridiculous of the woke-washing gestures was the writer who claimed, “Lando is teh pansexuals“. Why? not because there’s any particular hint of it in the films. Its literally just glommed on as “something you can’t refute”. He just suggests it exists in some subtle backstory. So Brave!

      1. Florida Man

        Well if you have a unique, all minority cast it’s exploitation for some reason I’ve never understood.

      2. Chipwooder

        She’s not even a female Luke. Luke at least had to train over a fairly long period of time to become a Jedi. Rey was basically an instaJedi. She just gained powers overnight.

        1. Florida Man

          Because women have to work twice as hard for half the recognition or something.

        2. trshmnstr

          It absolutely slaughtered my suspension of disbelief. Sloppy writing disguised as SJW empowerment. Mary Sue v. Emo Villain Decay isn’t a compelling narrative

    7. Rebel Scum

      After seeing the sjw shitshow that is The Last Jedi I resolved to not see another SW film in theaters until they shape up, which appears to not be happening any time soon.

      And it wasn’t just the sjw claptrap. It was the destruction of the original characters. It was bad enough that they made Han a deadbeat absentee father in TFA. But what they did to Luke in TLJ was unforgivable.

      1. Drake

        I assume everyone has watched Mr. Plinkett’s reviews of all the prequels. They were far more entertaining than the movies themselves.

        I wish he would do them for the latest movies.

        1. I didn’t think it was possible, but the new movies actually make the prequels look decent by comparison. The prequels just garden-variety sucked. The new movies not only objectively suck as entertainment, but they do it while condescending to the audience.

      2. The last one I saw was Rogue One, and I couldn’t tell you what it was about other than it has something to do with Darth Vader at the end. I saw The Force Awakens before that and I think the deal is they kill off the old characters, a bunch of no-name kids are in it, and one of them is a girl. They’re just utterly forgettable movies. They weren’t even bad, they were just the room-temperature distilled water of films.

        1. If you haven’t already seen it, do NOT see TLJ. Not only is it the worst SW movie BY FAR (seriously. it made The Phantom Menace look ok by comparison), it is actually one of the worst overall movies I’ve ever seen. None of the characters grow in any meaningful way, there are pointless side plots, almost all the conflict and drama comes from stupid/incomprehensible decisions by the protagonists, the remaining original characters are raped to death and then cannibalized; and that’s not even counting the preachy, condescending SJW nonsense. TL;DR – It sucks Jonah Falcon’s cock.

          1. trshmnstr

            the remaining original characters are raped to death and then cannibalized;

            STEVE SMITH NOW VERY INTERESTED IN THIS WAR OF TARDS SERIES

          2. Drake

            I for one am shocked that a space fantasy movie written by a committee of SJWs wasn’t truly excellent.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            So pretty much what has happened to Doctor Who?

          4. The demise of Doctor Who broke my heart. I was all-in on the reboot. I think it just got to a point where I was watching an episode thinking to myself, “Now wait a damned minute. Surely not EVERYONE in the universe is bisexual, genderqueer, and polyamorous.”

          5. Gustave Lytton

            It’s bad when you can look back at the JNT period as a golden era.

          6. Yeah, I’ve got zero interest in it. The recent movies have utterly killed the franchise for me in a way the prequels didn’t. Honestly, I think it’s the casting. Well, maybe the acting? Say what you will about the prequels, the leads were all recognizable actors with some experience under their belts. These newest ones? I have no idea who these people are, but they can’t carry the movies they’re in, that’s for damned sure.

    8. Chipwooder

      By far the best of the new characters from The Force Awakens is Poe…..so of course they have to try to make him as antagonistic as possible in The Last Jedi.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Liberals used to be able to make good movies.

    Like Kelly’s Heroes.

    Crapgame: So- make a deal.

    Big Joe: What kinda deal?

    Crapgame: A DEAL deal. Maybe the guy’s a Republican.

  23. Gilmore

    I honestly think Will Wilkenson is more douchey and useless than anyone on the super-retarded-progressive Left, or the hurr-hurr MAGA-right, or the #Nevertrump swamp-people like Frum.

    he’s a soupy-mess of neoliberal, wilsonian internationalism and “Big Govt Libertarianism”, where we can take the ‘best’ (lol) of cradle-to-grave welfare-ism from Europe, and force our multinational conglomerates to pay for it. And somehow this crony-integration of Big Govt with Big Business will produce maximal freedom for all. Or at least saying so simply *pays better* than being a scribbler for Reason.com

    1. That tweet storm is incomprehensible, hot garbage. Objective reality is independent of your feelings. That’s what the phrase means. It’s not hard.

      That the Niskanen Center considers itself “libertarian” in any capacity is an absolute joke.

      1. Chipwooder

        Calling that long-winded blather “incomprehensible hot garbage” is an insult to actual hot garbage everywhere.

        The Niskanen Center is so fuckin’ libertarian that it has a veritable who’s who of libertarian stalwarts on its advisory board, such luminaries as David Frum, Egg McMuffin, and Dan Drezner.

      2. Gilmore

        I pointed out 2 months or so ago: they launched their project in… what, 2015? they explicitly called themselves “Libertarian”. Repeatedly.

        Here: their OG “About Us”

        Established in 2014, the Niskanen Center is a libertarian 501(c)(3) think tank that works to change public policy through direct engagement in the policymaking process: developing and promoting proposals to legislative and executive branch policymakers, building coalitions to facilitate joint action, and marshaling the most convincing arguments in support of our agenda…

        The Niskanen Center’s focus on policy change complements the work of existing libertarian organizations, most of which are engaged in other activities such as analyzing or criticizing public policy, changing public opinion, blocking counterproductive regulation and legislation, and electing friendly politicians.

        The Center’s mission of producing concrete deliverables –

        libertarian-friendly legislation and regulation

        – suggests the need to accept the political terrain as a given…

        Then, in 2017, they re-wrote it, and led their prospectus with:

        “We are globalists who share progressives’ desire to robustly address economic and social inequality”

        the word libertarian eventually appears last in a long list, and the only part of it they still retain is “its skepticism about technocratic elites” ….

        …which is a bizarre contradiction to the initial goal of wanting to ‘alleviate economic and social inequality’. What on earth do they think Technocratic Elites ARE if not ‘think tanks pretending to ‘robustly address economic and social inequality’?

        A subtle shift in tone, to be sure.

        1. Basically DRUMPF forced them to rip off their mask and reveal their neoliberal, pseudo-prog true nature.

          1. Chipwooder

            Seriously, read their policy goals: a section promoting “legal action to compel responses to climate risks” and stumping for a carbon tax; promoting a welfare state; promoting state regulation of technology; some mush about foreign policy that is basically neo-con with a fig leaf of anti-interventionism; promoting universal health care; and a section extolling state regulations in general….”We recognize the need for clear, effective regulations that correct market failures and protect health, safety, the environment, workers, and consumers.”

            Basically, the only remotely libertarian position they take is on immigration.

          2. Gilmore

            “” “legal action to compel responses to climate risks” and stumping for a carbon tax; promoting a welfare state; promoting state regulation of technology…. promoting universal health care;””

            somehow none of that is ‘technocratic’

            here’s a libertarian way of ‘promoting universal health care’: let people pay for their own health care.

            when the state turns your individual choices into a collective-cost, it suddenly finds itself regulating your behavior for your own good. and once that behavior-regulating function comes into existence, it expands its mandate to every corner of life.

            BTW – to whomever pointed out that blog where Robert Bradley explains how Niskanen has nothing to do w/ the think-tank named after him? thank you for that.

            He has his second entry up today

          3. Mad Scientist

            These assholes don’t give two shits about your health. The goal has always been regulating your behavior.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            It ripped the mask off of a lot of others. The board of advisors of the Niskanen for one.

      3. Suthenboy

        when your libertarian solution to every problem is a state mandate, you aren’t a libertarian.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Will Wilkinson ?‏Verified account @willwilkinson · Jun 10

       More

      To say that “facts don’t care about your feelings” may be a healthy expression of the consciousness-independence of the external world. The atomic weight of gold is what it is no matter what we think or feel about it. But not all facts are like that.

      That’s silly. Here’s an example why: I think people that wear gold are asking to get mugged. The atomic weight of gold is irrelevant to this.

      1. R C Dean

        The atomic weight of gold is what it is no matter what we think or feel about it. But not all facts are like that.

        Trivially true, therefor of little to no value. It can, for example, be a fact that I am angry at someone. That is a fact that is not independent of my feelings.

        It is also a fact that the vast majority of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones. That fact does not care about your feelings.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    We’ve gotta protect our phoney baloney jobs!

    Mayor Jenny A. Durkan and seven of the nine City Council members said in a statement on Monday that they would weigh a repeal of the law. The lawmakers said that reaction from businesses and community groups, among other entities, pushed them to rethink the tax.

    A meeting about the repeal, and possible vote, is expected on Tuesday.

    “It is clear that the ordinance will lead to a prolonged, expensive political fight over the next five months that will do nothing to tackle our urgent housing and homelessness crisis,” the statement said. “These challenges can only be addressed together as a city, and as importantly, as a state and a region. We heard you.”

    Suddenly the issue is not so much homelessness as joblessness. They suddenly realized they’re in danger of getting voted out of office.

    1. I wonder if a majority of the Seattle electorate is so far gone as to punish them for backing off on the measure.

      “Fuck jobs! We gotta go after those evil kkkorporations! Eat the rich!”

      1. Chipwooder

        Harrumph, harrumph!

      2. Mad Scientist

        The Cascadia subduction zone can’t pop soon enough.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      “These challenges can only be addressed together as a city, and as importantly, as a state and a region. We heard you

      Obviously they haven’t heard anything other than their own farts that they sniff. You aren’t the solution, you are the problem. Cut taxes, regulation, and above all, spending. That will do more to fix the problems than anything the City of Seattle will ever do.

      But that will never happen under the current commies and commie symps.

    1. Gilmore

      ^this is interesting stuff

      the politicization of school-discipline

      “Before any referral is made, the teacher should have followed the step (sic) below: Intervention Strategies, Conference with Students, Warnings, Called parent/guardian, Conference with parent/guardian.” For all these matters, “teachers MUST have the appropriate documentation. Teachers should be keeping anecdotal (records) on a regular basis, telephone logs, parental conference logs, intervention forms, and all other relevant documentation.”

      The kids quickly realized that their teachers could get in trouble for getting them in trouble.

      Lord of the Flies ensues.

      In a video shot by Vasquez in his classroom that was viewed by The 74, two girls are standing in front of the class, talking loudly. When he asks them to return to their seats, one girl yells, “I’m gonna stand right here! You not tellin’ me nothing! Mr. Primus not tellin’ me nothing! None of them teachers tellin’ me nothing! So I’m gonna stand right there!” The other girl chimes in, “I’ll take you to court!”

    2. SoberPhobic

      Google unable to translate this memorial to the dead bully

      BROTHER YALL DONT KNOW HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW MAN ??‼️I love you Matt Swervoo watch over me Brother this shit really crazzy ?? we was deadass talking about how I got book Bc you and all the shit we did together and how I told you bro get on your school shit and you side I got you big bro ?? ☹️ I’m not jacking it this bro it don’t feel real it like im in a dream and I can’t get up from it man ?It your world brother ? that shit will never stop THE LAST THING YOU SAID TO ME IS I FEEL LIKE IM Dying BRO AND I SAID BRO NIGGA GET SHOT EVERYDAY B AND YOU SMILE AT ME AND SAID I LOVE YOU AND THANK YOU ☹️☹️??? AND I LOOK AWAY AND LOOK BACK AND YOU WAS JUST LOOKING AT ME MANN ??? Ant Benji you gotta hold it down for all of us bro you strong ?? you can get through this brother ? I love you ?

  25. Tundra

    Late to the party, but I think I need to try this. Thank you for strengthening my habit.

    Florida Man = Pusher Man

  26. A Leap at the Wheel

    Hah, thought this was about beer and didn’t click since I don’t drink any more. I’ve been drinking cold brew for the last decade. My wife is the coffee mistress in our house, and she makes a great cup of hot or cold brew.