Rifles for the West
Bolt guns kind of own the outdoor rifle scene west of the Mississippi. Here in Colorado during the general rifle deer/elk seasons, probably 75-80% of the rifles you see are bolt guns. So, let’s look at those first, then we’ll come around to some other options. And there are other options; here’s a teaser, “Browning Automatic Rifle” doesn’t always refer to the WW2-era squad automatic rifle.
So, why bolt guns? They are simple, strong and accurate. Bolt guns will easily accommodate the most powerful hunting cartridges. Their stiffness and solid lockup increases accuracy, a key consideration in the West’s open country where 200 to 300-yard shots are not unusual. They are easy to maintain, easy to field-strip, easy to clean and easy to use.
Bolt guns are also handy in that they have one feature shared by few other action types, save single-shots: You can remove the bolt without tools and access the entire length of the barrel. That’s handy for clearing blockages or just running an oiled patch through the barrel after a day out in rain or snow.
There are too many bolt rifles for sale today to go into brands, but there are a few things to think about when looking for a good bolt gun:
- Controlled-feed vs. push-feed. This is largely a matter of personal preference. Controlled-feed guns, like the Mauser, have a large claw extractor that picks up the next round from the magazine and holds it in place while the bolt moves into battery. Push-feed guns, like the Remington 700, are just like they sound, simply pushing the round ahead of the bolt into the chamber. Controlled-feed advocates make a case for reliability of feed, although in a lot of those guns you can’t drop one round into the gun and close the bolt; the round has top be picked up from the magazine. But this is mostly a matter of preference.
- If you are looking at a rifle built on a surplus Mauser or other military action, most of those won’t have a hinged floorplate. This is a disadvantage in that it requires you, when clearing the weapon, to cycle all rounds through the action, slightly (at least, it damn well better be slightly) increasing the odds of an accidental discharge. A lot of cheaper bolt guns (think Remington 700 ADL) have blind magazines, which have the same issue. A hinged floorplate allows you to dump unused rounds into your hand without them going through the action. That’s handy.
- Locking lugs. Personally, I like the old classic layout, two big beefy locking lugs at the front of the bolt. It’s easier to maintain a solid lockup and keep headspace with two big lugs than with nine little ones, like the old Weatherby Mark V has.
If bolt guns aren’t your cup of tea, there are other options.
Semi-autos are very popular these days and have probably surpassed single-shots in the Western game field scene. Bear in mind that most, if not all states limit you to five rounds or less in any rifle used to take big game; that’s rarely an issue in bolt guns but sure can be in a semi-auto. The AR platform can handle some rounds suitable for deer-sized game, while the AR-10 and guns like the old Winchester 100 and the various Remington semis can handle .308- and .30-06-level rounds. If you want more oomph, look into the Browning Automatic Rifle, a gas-operated powerhouse in chamberings up to the .338 Winchester Magnum.
Single-shots are still popular. While older designs like the Springfield are weak by today’s standards and require light loads, modern singles like the Ruger #1 and the new-manufacture Browning Hi-Wall are bank-vault tough and can handle any rounds you choose to feed them.
Singles have another advantage: If you are on a tight budget, some singles like the New England Firearms break-tops are very easy on the bankbook and can be had in a wide variety of calibers. If your budget is really tight, you can even have a shotgun and rifle in one go with the simple expedient of purchasing additional barrels.
Finally, there is the classic Western rifle: The lever gun. While most lever guns are 200-yard propositions for deer-sized game, there are a couple of notable exceptions. The Savage 99 can be had in the .300 Savage and the .308 Winchester, which lends some more power to a platform traditionally used for cartridges like the .30-30. And there is the fine old Browning Lever Rifle (BLR) which feeds from a box magazine, handles cartridges up to the .300 Winchester Magnum and has a rotating bolt head with bolt-action-style locking lugs at the front of the bolt; the BLR has been described as a bolt gun where the bolt is operated by a lever, and that’s a pretty good description.
No matter what rifle you choose, there’s another key decision to be made as well, which brings us to…
Cartridges
In recent years it seems like we’ve seen an explosion (pun intended) of new rifle cartridges. Some of these are commercial adoptions of popular wildcat rounds, some are purposely developed by gun and/or ammunition manufacturers. I’m not immune to the wildcatting bug myself; I’ve long thought of having my favorite .30-06 rechambered to the .30-06 Ackley Improved, which gives .300 H&H Magnum ballistics while still allowing use of regular .30-06 factory loads.
For the most part, though, I’m a practical kind of guy, and most of my rifles are hunting rifles. While plenty of folks love to play with custom calibers or line up to buy the first examples of the latest Eargesplitten Loudenboomer Magnum, I’m pretty content to stick with cartridges that have been around a while.
Now, admittedly, I’ve got quite a few more rifles than I need for just hunting North American big game, like buck mulies or big bull elk. I load for and shoot rifles in the .22 Hornet (developed in the 1920’s and adopted by Winchester in 1930), the .45-70 (introduced 1873), the .338 Winchester Magnum (introduced 1958), and the .30 WCF (introduced 1895.)
Most of these cartridges are readily available in any large gun or sporting-goods store; hell, you can buy many of them in Wal-Mart, at least some kind of ammo to get you shooting. But when it comes to availability of ammo, you still can’t really beat the old .30-06 Springfield. The ’06 may be 112 years old, but it’s still one of the best big-game rounds going; if I know someone interested in learning the ins and outs of hunting and shooting who wants to buy a single rifle for North American big game, they would be well-advised to buy a .30-06. It will easily handle anything from antelope to moose, although it may be a bit on the light side for big Alaskan bears and the largest bull Alaska-Yukon moose. But the ’06 has a huge advantage for those packing one gun across long distances, perhaps in airline checked baggage: If you lose your ammo supply somewhere en route, you can walk into almost any gas station, bait shop, or general store (there are still some around) and buy at least some kind of ammo that you can re-zero and get to work with.
The only other rifle cartridge that you can say that about it perhaps the old .30 WCF (.30-30, for those not familiar with the original name) and the trienta-trienta is popular enough from the Yukon to the Canal Zone, but not quite up to game like elk or moose. It’s strictly a 150-200-yard cartridge for deer-sized game.
I reckon the .30-06 will be around at least as long as I am. Rifle and cartridge design hasn’t changed all that much, overtly, in the last 100 years; most modern bolt-action rifles are adaptations of the 1898 Mauser, and scores of cartridges, wildcat and otherwise, are still based on the .30-06 case. What has advanced in the shooting world is metallurgy, ammunition propellants and projectiles, and optics. But a good case design is a good case design, which is why the .30-06 remains one old dog that’s learned lots of new tricks.
But, with that said: I have one principle when it comes to hunting rifles: You can shoot little stuff with a big gun, but you can’t shoot big stuff with a little gun. That’s why I generally go afield with a .338 Winchester Magnum.
Shooting legend Elmer Keith was also a fan of the big .33 caliber for big game, although he favored the wildcat .333 OKH, named for its designers Charles O’Neil, Don Hopkins, and the aforementioned Elmer Keith. The OKH was a .30-06 round opened up to take .333 caliber bullets. This wildcat round saw some use in western game fields alongside the similar .35 Whelen (the .30-06 case necked up to .35 caliber) until 1958, when Winchester released the more powerful .338 Winchester Magnum.
If I were to own only one rifle, it would be a .338 Winchester Magnum bolt gun wearing a 2-7X or 3-9X scope and a good stout leather shooting sling. With that, you can easily kill any big game animal in North America while not messing up a 120-pound meat deer too much. But that’s a qualified recommendation; I’m tall, big-framed, and not very recoil-sensitive.
Some folks are just the opposite. Mrs. Animal is small, tiny-framed (4’11”) and, due to chronic pain issues, much more recoil-sensitive. Her primary hunting rifle is a Ruger 77 MkII Compact in the rather interesting little .260 Remington, a good round for deer-size game, but one that will handle elk with good controlled-expansion bullets and careful shot placement.
If you’re recoil-conscious and bigger game is on the menu, there are some excellent old standbys, including the .270 Winchester, the .280 Remington and the .30-06. Short-action rounds like the .308 have been wildly successful as well, partly because they work. The old 7x57mm Mauser has killed big game all over the world – “Karamojo” Bell famously killed a lot of African elephants with it, a feat I wouldn’t want to attempt. Some years back I found an old 1891 Argentine Mauser action wearing a 7x57mm barrel; I put a butterknife bolt handle and a Redfield peep on it, stocked it with a nice slim English walnut stock. It was a neat little rifle, light, handy and shootable. I fed it mild handloads and killed a few deer and one javelina with it.
Of course, there’s more to recoil than the cartridge. My .338 is manageable in part because it weighs close to ten pounds loaded, has a nice thick butt pad and is Mag-Na-Ported. The worst-kicking rifle I ever owned was a small-ring 98 Mauser with a slick little European-style stalker stock in black walnut, with an 18” light sporter barrel in .308 and a 1.5-5x scope. It weight about six and a half pounds loaded and was a joy to carry but kicked like a bad-tempered mule.
Optics/Sights
Here’s a basic observation: Most people over-scope their hunting rifles. My favorite example is a guy I chatted with up in Routt County one year who had a 4-12 power, adjustable objective scope on a Marlin 336 .30-30. Scoping the ChiCom SKS is another fad of recent days, which seems like it’s pretty much the definition of polishing a turd.
Most folks, for most hunting, can do very well with a 4X fixed-power scope or a 2-7X or 3x9X variable. You’ll find that in most shooting with variables you’ll keep the scope dialed to the lower end of the range, as target acquisition is a lot quicker with lower magnification.
If you’re setting up a rifle for plains deer or antelope, you might want more scope; I have one like that, a Ruger 77 Mk II Target with a 6-18X scope. But that’s a specialized rifle for reaching out and touching speed-goats in open country; it’s not something you want to carry around all day. The damn thing weighs almost twelve pounds with scope, bipod, sling and a load of .243 rounds.
Whatever scope you buy, don’t skimp, but you don’t have to take out a second mortgage. Redfield, Weaver, Simmons and Burris all make reasonably priced good, solid scopes in a wide range of sizes and powers. It’s not out of line to spend as much on your optics as you’ve spent on your rifle, but you can get a decent scope for less than that if you shop around.
In Conclusion
Find a good rifle that you can handle, that you can shoot well, and practice, practice, practice. Get off the range and shoot in the field, from improvised rests and off-hand. Learn how to shoot in the field and you can hit anything, anywhere. Make sure your cartridge/bullet combination is appropriate to the game you’re after; I would not recommend taking on an Alaska grizzly with a .243, for example.
A good hunting rifle should last a couple of lifetimes. Consider it an investment, one that can be passed on to the next generation and choose accordingly. You won’t regret it.
I wouldn’t want to take on an Alaskan grizzly with less than a .50 cal.
Second that emotion. And I would prefer a LAW.
A 12 gauge would be fine, as well. And commonly carried there as I am told.
Not that long ago I saw a photo of a fella posing with two large grizzlies he had shot while proudly holding his rifle. It was chambered in .219 zipper. Head shots on both animals.
What do you recommend to take this out? From the Broward ‘burbs
https://www.local10.com/news/florida/broward/davie-alligator-attack
An astonishingly daring/stupid poodle.
Why hasn’t anyone killed that damn gator given all the supposed confrontations? It’s not like it’s a squirrel or something.
12’6″. That’s a big one.
Just south of here a nuisance gator hunter killed a a 16′ gator in a pond on a cattle farm. He shot it from 60 yards with a 7mm Rem Mag. It doesnt really matter what you shoot them with but you have to hit them in the brain. They are almost impossible to kill otherwise. They are tougher than an old pine stump and a big one like that is strong enough to pull cattle into the water and kill them.
Not something you want to fuck around with.
I have a .45-70 Marlin and I’d feel comfortable taking out anything except an elephant with that.
Also tits:
http://archive.is/ik6Y4
Ah, thank you for that. I had to pause on 1 for a while.
Ditto. I’d feel pretty confident facing a bear with my 1895G.
http://garrettcartridges.com/4570.html
#1 is indeed a fine example of woman flesh.
If her brain is half as fine as here body she is a keeper ×10.
1 is special. 8 and 22 are nice. 99 is a no brainer ‘cause she’s hot and has guns and pizza.
I have a .308 SR716. Looking at the ballistics, I didn’t feel like the 30-06 is that much superior. A little extra reach maybe. Recoil on the SR 716 is nominal.
I can steamroll up .30-06 loads in my ’98 pretty close to .300 H&H specs. But I wouldn’t recommend that in some rifles. I’m pretty close to max loads.
Sweet. Someday I’ll get into reloading. Probably when I retire:)
They are extremely close. .308 has better internal ballistics up to about 175 gr., and a shorter action. 30-06 can handle heavier bullets.
I think about taking up hunting just as an excuse to buy more guns.
As good a reason as any.
I was thinking of taking up fishing so that I might buy some guns.
I took up buying more guns so that I might buy more guns.
OT, but these count as the afternoon links so nothing’s OT
I was listening to the Old Time Radio channel on Sirius XM this morning. They had a program from 1942 chronicling the Battle of Wake Island.
I’ve always thought the Marines on Wake Island deserved every bit of the “complete badass” legacy that (rightfully) has endured for the soldiers who stormed the beaches at Normandy. Most people really don’t know much about that battle though, which is a shame.
In addition to assaulting well-fortified beaches, they had oppressive heat and tropical diseases.
I had the old Time-Life book about the war in the Pacific. Everyone involved in any of those actions was at *least* as badass as those that stormed Normandy. The most hardcore story I can recall is of the Japanese and Australians fighting on the Kokoda Track. That, and the pictures of the aftermath of a banzai charge on Guadalcanal…disturbing.
One interesting side story – in high school I was eating lunch in a McDonald’s and an old guy sits across from me and starts talking. Turns out he was one of the troops dropped on Guadalcanal and left without most of his gear when the transports bailed out early due to reports of Japanese submarines. Coolest random chat ever.
Not just Wake.
There were numerous island battles that deserve that distinction.
It was horrible, sometimes hand to hand, war.
Absolutely. I had a great uncle who fought in the pacific. Three things he told me about it will stick with me all of my life.
1. After a landing and the fighting died down they had to cross a small creek with jeeps so they stacked the dead in the creek to make a bridge and drove over them.
2. After a landing and the fighting died down you couldn’t set foot on the beach without stepping on body parts.
3. He went 500 days never outside the sound of gunfire.
I cant imagine what that was like. No one who wasn’t there can.
An article on Western rifles, and you didn’t illustrate it with a picture of Lucas McCain?
Hey Ted, relevant to the above Pacific Pacific Theater discussion and your knowledge of films, we recently watched “Heaven Knows, Mr. Allison.” What are your thoughts on this movie?
Look out! That deer has a gun!
Most of the people I know hunt deer and elk. with .270s. I don’t hunt, so I can provide no further details.
One useful tip. Never shoot an elk which is downhill from you.
Why?
Because then you have to lug it back up the hill.
Chainsaw winches are your friend.
Jack O’Connor favored the .270 for elk, and that’s a damnably hard recommendation to argue with. Even when you’re an Elmer Kieth-style big gun man like me.
guns r cool
OT:
funny little anecdote:
i was on the twitters a while back, and 1 dude in some random thread gets a reply from some other dude. Latter dude is gigantic asshole. first guy is like, “what the fuck, you’re a dick”. then someone else is like, “also, that’s David Simon”. Everyone goes, “Whaaaaaaa?” “Like, THE WIRE David Simon?” “yes, that guy” David Simon continues to be giant offensive dick. Wanders off.
So today i hear: David Simon has been banned from twitter. All the journalists go, “boo hoo why is twitter so awful david simon is a good left person”.
David Simon pens angy letter: “Fuck you twitter you can’t ban me i’m David Simon, I hope you get cancer and die you fucksticks“, basically demonstrating to people exactly the sort of hubris and zero-class behavior that got him banned.
Seriously tho, the guy responds to people with lines like “Take the Brietbart meme from your ass and reinsert your usual pre-warmed cucumber. ” and then complains that Twitter is degrading the national discourse
The Wire was a masterpiece despite David Simon’s desires & stated goals.
You gotta admit that ‘Pre-warmed’ show that he at least puts in the effort, that’s a good visual enhancing modifier right there.
It’s homophobic to imply someone derives sexual pleasure from sticking things in their butt…unless a prog says it.
[Kiff sigh]
Not just your ass. See KKKochsucker and Teabagger.
“[…] mothers who have their children kidnapped and held incommuncado from them at the American border […]”
“American”? It’s the U.S. border, chump.
Also, I wonder how David Simon felt about Obama droning Pakistani weddings.
Bolt actions are cool, but I like lever actions better. Fun fact: bolt actions were invented to make it easier to lock, cock, etc while in the prone.
achievement unlocked: killed bear with knife
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It’s the kind of tale from which myths are born but an Alberta hunter who killed a bear with his knife just wants to forget the whole thing.
Fraser Graham was armed with his firearm, a knife and permit to hunt black bear when his life was almost taken by a wounded adult grizzly, confirms Alberta Justice.
It was a bloody and vicious struggle that culminated with Graham receiving several bites, as well as a crushed wrist and the grizzly dead.
***
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/01/fraser-graham-kills-grizzly-bear-knife_n_4194910.html
Guns are great and all and all real Muricans should own many, God bless Murika.
As a person who owns few guns, at the moment anyway, and is not totally geek level knowledgeable, I’m going there.
Did we breach protocol and skip afternoon links? Are we worse than Trump, totally Hitler?
*Youre* worse than Trump. I don’t know about the rest of us.
Having handled one before, these are fantastic rifles. If you’re into the blued steel and wood thing.
If you’re not into blues steel and heavily grained wood stocks, you have no soul.
Blued. Friggin autocorrect.
As the resident off topic extraordinaire, I will kick things off:
Voters don’t care about the Russia investigation.
[Nelson laugh]
Ralph Peters- your country thanks you for your service. Now, will you please go enjoy bacon, whiskey, grandchildren, and fishing like a normal person?
Former Fox News Analyst Calls Network a ‘Destructive Propaganda Machine’
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/07/business/media/ralph-peters-fox-cnn.html
Fox News *is* a destructive propaganda machine.
As is every other major news network.
As is the NY Times.
And every newspaper as well. There’s a great Twain article about newspapers in the 19th century. Newspapers back then had all kinds of bombastic names, which he lampooned as The Moral Volcano and The Dying Shriek of Liberty.
linky poo
I’ve mentioned this before. The response was, “so who tells the truth?”
Nobody.
Enemies tell the truth about each other- to an extent.
“They joined the president in steadily attacking the Justice Department, the F.B.I. and other democratic institutions […]”
The implication is that Trump’s attacks against these agencies undermine democracy.
Of course, by their logic, the President also qualifies as a democratic institution, and since, presumably, the NYT, its readers, and Mr. Peters routinely attack *him*, they’re undermining democracy.
Does anyone outside of rabid partisans actually buy this “MUH DEMOCK CRACY” claptrap?
A. We arent a democracy
B. Those are not democratic institutions.
Thanks for the article Animal. I think I’m just about ready to hang up my old Remington Woodsmaster and I intend to switch to a bolt action.
I just assumed you carried an M41A Pulse rifle, with 10x24mm, explosive tip, caseless, light armor-piercing rounds
That’s my EDC.
I’ll be in my bunk.
“Phased plasma rifle in the 40-Watt range.”
“Hey, just what you see here.”
Yes yes yes, I know, I know, you don’t have to say it
http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/08/adam-putnams-office-stopped-concealed-weapons-background-checks-for-a-year-because-it-couldnt-log-in/
Florida stopped doing concealed weapons background checks for a year because they forgot the password to the database.
This is almost as bad as that time Florida got its hand stuck in the vending machine, but it turned out it was because it wouldn’t let go of the Buzz cola.
Did the murder rate go up or down?
And everyone died.
Hey, Hogg boy:
So, this is proof that Constitutional Carry is THE proper policy, right?
I mean, you don’t want to go undermining the intelligence of the bureaucrats simply because of some minor forgetfulness, do you? These are the only people qualified to own and carry guns!
My Ruger Gunsite Scout in .308 with a Leupold FX-II IER scope (2.5x fixed) is hands down my favorite gun to handle and shoot. 2.5x is great for minute of deer out to 200 yards no problem and you can stretch that range pretty easily with any measure of skill. I’ve got the scope on quick detach rings and it has full iron sights as backup. Absolutely love this gun for deer hunting.
But like Animal says, you can’t go wrong with 30-06. I’ve got a Remington 700 BDL in 30-06 with a Leupold 3-9x and I’m comfortable shooting that gun much further out. Hence it’s my elk hunting rifle.
Hooray guns.
Also I second Animal in loving .338 winmag. I don’t have one yet but it will certainly be my next rifle.
My father hunts with a .338 winmag. He replaced the scope a few years back, which of course meant quite a bit of range time.
We ended up with a lead sled before it was all sighted in.
I also got scoped by that damn thing. Still have a scar on my nose.
Garand here, but this cat don’t hunt
Same. However, I do enjoy turning money into noise.
#metoo. but I try and limit my use of it.
On my third negroni tonight. I will regret this tomorrow. It has become dinner.
Yeah, drinks turning into dinner happens to me too. I had a Negroni on vacation a month ago but didn’t care all that much for it. They got kind of fancy with their cocktails there so maybe I’ll give it another try somewhere else.
Personally, I’m more partial to the Boulevardier. It’s essentially a Negroni with whiskey replacing gin. Because, to quote Ron Swanson, “Clear liquors are for rich women on diets”.
Pssssssst: https://glibertarians.com/2018/03/spring-breeeeeeaaaaaak111/
*walks away whistling*
Thanks peeps! I’ll give that a try.
I used solveig him and asked my sister to send more. Can’t get it here
Gin not him
Good song title.
Not sure how I missed that article. Carpano Antica is the only vermouth in my cabinet. My go to Manhattan is 1/3 cup Knob Creek Small Batch Rye, 3/4oz vermouth, a dash of Peychaud bitters and a twist of orange peel.
Love this cocktail!
Not a problem unless it becomes breakfast.
I’ve taken a shine to drinking Monkey 47 neat. Damn you, Swiss! I’m not made of money.
Had a big lunch so, yeah. Two Moscow Mules and now bourbon. Maybe a Scooby a little later.
Drinks as dinner? This is a good argument for martinis. Olives are food…
Cool article, I have a Savage 30-06 and a Winchester 30-30 for my two rifles.
The 30-30 is a lot of fun to shoot, but I’ve never taken it hunting, that’s what 30-06 is for.
Sorry for the OT, but I do have to admit I find this bit of expert trolling by the President hilarious. It’s all upside for him and refusing to co-operate with him on it makes the entire protest look like a temper tantrum.
This one is pretty good too: Trump offers to pardon Muhammad Ali
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/08/politics/trump-muhammad-ali/index.html
Good. Fuck Comey with a rusty woodchipper.
Truly, Reagan was history’s greatest monster.
Peace Through Strength
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWYrcnehito
Its fri and its 6:30 PM which means its time to start drinking, but, perhaps for future reference – an some research here looking at the impact of immigration on native labor
https://voxeu.org/article/impact-immigration-barriers-native-workers
there’s no way i’m going to read it now. maybe over the weekend.
i am not personally all that invested in the subject of immigration; i have always felt that no matter what the US policy was, that we’d get X million mexicans in the US one way or the other, and that the best policies should just accept that and try and streamline the process and not create any second-class citizen situation. vain hope, i know. I also think, per the standard Cato/Reason thinking, that the net-effect of immigration is economic + for all. More consumers is overall good; more birth rate, good. They aren’t (with exceptions) particularly criminal, and while people cling to idea that they will only ever vote Blue and that they’s IMPORTING THE SOCIALISMS and whatnot, I don’t really buy that either; by 2nd/3rd gen, they’re mostly no different than u or I, and their attitudes are as affected by income and education and family-size and business ownership just in the same way you and I are.
at the same time, i’m not an open borders type who thinks the only libertarian principle is freedom-of-movement; particularly from a realist-foreign-relations perspective – it just seems to me to be an utterly non-viable concept. to any degree that i believe a state should exist, enforcing controls on your own borders is basically a prerequisite of being a nation-state in the first place. If you don’t have some nominal control, you might as well just cede territory to whatever parts of the country your neighbors enjoy the most.
basically, i’m a ‘tall fence /wide gate’ type, who would be happy if we just had some bare-minimum system that at least effectively documented people who come and go. But apparently that’s too much to ask. and i wouldn’t be likely to change my mind on the issue if it turned out the economic impact were ‘slightly negative’, and wouldn’t be wildly more enthusiastic if the economic data showed ‘better than expected long term impact’. But i still like to know economic research on the margins of the topic, if for no other reason than to say, “Akshully”, whenever people start ranting about how they Taykin Ar Jobses
IMPORTING THE SOCIALISMS
You mean Bernie Sanders from 98% white Vermont?
^^
(tho, technically he’s a jew from brooklyn, not ‘from’ vermont)
my own work-related research … which was mainly rooted in ‘consumer behavior’, but often had me going through decades of demographic analysis of opinions and attitudes across different economic+regional+racial characteristics…. tended to show that the most-retarded, most-progressive/socialist-leaning people? have always been the children of the wealthy.
this has been obvious forever; i mean, all the SDS leadership, the people in the Weathermen? Bill Ayers + Bernadine Dorne types? almost always children of the wealthy. It needn’t even be ‘rich’ – but being *around* wealth. Hoffer pointed out the same; the talentless members of the elite-classes are the ones who generally seek to overturn the very order that made their parents so wealthy. why? because its a way for them to distinguish themselves and aggrandize themselves morally over their peers.
the people who will drive this country into a progressive-toilet aren’t mexican dirt-farmers. they’re the graduating class of Oberlin.
Lenin and Castro were both born rich. High level communists were famous for living in luxury. Ceausescu had a golden scepter made for himself.
And the bane of my existence makes his views clear here:
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/01/for-a-luxury-leftism
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There is, broadly speaking, something sound to the charge of hypocrisy around left-wing extravagance. The mansions possessed by Al Gore and the Obamas are an outrage. But they are an outrage because they exist in a time of great suffering, not because the world should not have mansions in it. The problem is not the existence of riches, but the failure to allow all to share equally in them.
…
The problem with limousine liberalism, then, was not the limousines, but the liberals. Radicals should be chic, revolutionaries should drink excellent wine. Anarchist flophouses, abounding in filth and with defective plumbing, present no kind of vision for the future society. Any political movement that wishes to win people over must at least seem like it’s having a good time. The left’s suits must be well-tailored, its pastries must be fattening.
***
I’m going to stop there because I can feel my pulse in my eyelid.
“basically, i’m a ‘tall fence /wide gate’ type, who would be happy if we just had some bare-minimum system that at least effectively documented people who come and go.”
Immigration has been an over-complicated shit circus for a long time.
Anyway, if I were the Republicans, I would sell that the Democrats refused to increased border security for DACA. They won’t though. Because many of them are against DACA.
I tend to equate it with CA peeps moving into CO and trying to make it into CA.
Simplistic, I know
I occasionally see fliers – clearly put up by lefties to signal their anti-Trumpness – advocating the abolition of borders. And then I laugh and laugh and laugh…
<a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-is-likely-to-support-ending-federal-ban-on-marijuana/ar-AAyogKu?OCID=ansmsnnews11"?Trump likely to end support end to federal ban on cannabis
That’s it, folks. It’s really happening. Trump is worse than Hitler, it’s coming to your local playground, mareejuaner addicts raping your kids and feasting on their flesh. This is exactly the sort of ruin they said Trump would bring. Damn, we should have listened.
Well, the link is fucked up, but it still works. Now hide while you can.
Has Sessions gone into a tirade and rocketed back to leprechaun land for good?
Seriously, good for Trump. He’s trying to get my vote in 2020….it’s the only logical explanation.
I don’t know about sessions. Does he hate drugs or is he “rules is rules”?
Both.
You mean, does he hate drug users using drugs he doesn’t like? Yes. I’m sure he boozes it up every night, but those potheads need to be thrown in a rape cage. It’s hard to even hate commies more than these type of human dung.
Hell yeah. Love bolt rifles. Got a Finnish Mosin and a Swiss K31 that are both a ton of fun to shoot.
I was reading Cassandra Fairbanks twitter when it suddenly locked.
“BREAKING: Aaron Rich Attorneys Subpoena Twitter to Turn Over All Direct Messages from: Wikileaks, Julian Assange, KimDotCom, Cassandra Fairbanks, Gateway Pundit, etc
The liberal and Democrat-connected attorneys for Aaron Rich are demanding Twitter turn over all direct messages from these accounts to Aarron Rich’s attorneys.
We are contacting our attorneys on our response.
Update: Here is a copy of the subpoena to Twitter.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/aaron-rich-attorneys-subpoena-twitter-to-turn-over-all-direct-messages-from-wikileaks-julian-assange-kimdotcom-cassandra-fairbanks-gateway-pundit-etc/
“Brother of slain DNC staffer sues Washington Times, conservative activists”
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/380452-brother-of-slain-dnc-staffer-sues-washington-times-conservative-activists
“Scoping the ChiCom SKS is another fad of recent days, which seems like it’s pretty much the definition of polishing a turd.”
I love my SKS, killed a few deer, maybe 15-20, with it. As eyes get old and tired the necessity of a scope becomes paramount. I wear tri-focals, with open sights I can see either the rear sight, the front sight or the target but not any 2 of 3. With a 4X scope from my Chinese friends I can see a cross hair and the target on the same plane. I can see through the Minnesota brush and pick out the clear space. We often have a buck only season, the scope makes it a lot easier to see if the critter’s got horns, particularly in the brush. Without a scope I may as well not go in the woods
I put a Midway fiber stock on my little gun, it has a cheek piece for right handers but I’m left handed but the gun doesn’t know the difference. I tried a 2-7X on it and found I couldn’t keep it zeroed. After about 15 shots I realized the ejected brass was hitting the scope and changing the zero. I replaced it with the short 4X .
I have other rifles that I like, probably my favorite is a Marlin 336 in 30-30 cal. Us old guys hunt from permanent stands for a couple reasons. Walking gets tougher as the calendar gets shorter and for the added safety of shooting downhill. MN woods can be crowded on opening morning.
So when I put a scope on my SKS in ’87 I was a trend setter?
Well, I copied you but about 10 years later. You revolutionized the SKS game and broke the anti scope stigma.
Well the joke is on me. Turns out my SKS is a rare version with a stamped receiver and I trashed its value by home gunsmithing on it.
Browning BLR in .270 for me, I’ve always been a sucker for a lever gun. Before my brother appropriated it on me I had a Winchester Model 7- in 7mm……great gun but I don’t miss that recoil.
*Model 70
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/bourdain-obama-episode-w521293
Well that was a big ole sloppy blow-job.
Razorfist continues to Razorfist with great Razor-like Fistness
Now if Trump can get the USS Pueblo back with an apology.
Despite the fact that I think Razorfist lives on a diet of salad and cocaine, he’s right. Kim doesn’t have much of a bargaining chip. Trump has all of them. Kim is no longer dealing with Obama and he’s well aware of it. This guy is not dumb, he was educated in the west and no matter if most of the peasants are cut off from the internet, he is not. He knows the score. And the score is, he either dies in an attack from the USA, he commits suicide for him and his regime, long term or short term, or he tries to survive through diplomacy. That’s about it. I’m sure he’s well aware that if he opens stuff up, there may be an outrage calling for his head for war crimes. But at this point, he doesn’t have much choice. It’s not pussy Obama calling the shots now.
“a diet of salad and cocaine”
The New, New South Beach Diet
I haven’t even watched that whole RF video yet.
I made a point re: Lil’ Kim, and why he’s playing ball, a while back. My take is sort of similar to yours, with some expansion on the “he tries to survive through diplomacy” bit.
His dad basically did this, “pretend to be always on the verge of something, but always backing away at last min” same thing. Flipflopping between ‘help me’, and ‘die capitalist scum’. Diplomatic cock-tease. The trick of the Norks is basically “how to keep sugardaddy China playing nice to them”. Increasingly china is like, “look, you’re retarded, this game is old”. So they need to modify the game. The new game will be “have summits every 5 years for the next 20 years” while only engaging in superficial, very slight changes on the margins (all trying to get more $$ investment from China and US in exchange for keeping Kim in power)
i think people fail to grasp: neither china nor US want a Nork implosion; they want a managed decline. They probably fear collapse more than ‘war’. I think war is fairly low on the ‘actual possibility’ scale.
My first rifle, I was 10, was a single shot bolt action rifle.
Good article. I’m mostly a bird hunter but I do have a couple of rifles. My dad’s Savage 380 is a great little bush gun with the original 3-8X scope. Still dead accurate.
“Free marketers are hypocrites” Paul Krugman argues, pointing to an article that shows….
…free-marketers that Trump appointed, blocking Trump’s own crony-subsidy-proposals
I haven’t hunted in 20+ years. So, my current favorite bolt action gun is a .17 hmr. This one: http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/93R17BRJ topped with a weaver 6.5 -20x scope. It shoots so well, it’s scary.
Yay for firearm articles.
+1 on the firearms articles. I only hunt deer anymore. I haven’t shot a shotgun in 25 years. Gave all my shotgun reloading stuff away and I don’t think the recipient has reloaded. I enjoyed hunting doves in TX, a lot of shooting, an occasional hit and good eating.
I get out a couple times a year with my shotgun to break some clays. Very satisfying.
95% of my shooting is with shotguns. Sporting clays 3-4 time a month for nine months and then three months of killing feathered creatures.
I learned to shoot skeet/trap about 50 years ago in Spain. The Rod/Gun Club was cheap to shoot. Most of the skilled shooters were more than willing to help a novice. 2-3 times a week for a couple years. Changed the habits I’d learned as a kid and improved my duck shooting a lot. Now those are memories.
I have the Savage .17 with the thumbhole stock and a similar power scope. It is a fun little plinker. After breaking whole clay pigeons, I can then shoot the pieces as mini-targets.
I am so sorry I missed this thread.
My stand-by hunting rifles: Win 94 in 30-30 (cant beat it for balance, ease of carry and offhand quick shots), Win 94 in .375 winchester (250 gr cast flat noses with gas checks at 1800 fps), Ruger No.1 in 7mm Rem Mag.
I have a large number of rifle chamberings but those are the most practical of the bunch. For fun 22 Hornet, 218 Bee, .223 Rem, .243 Win, .270, 308, 338 Win Mag, 375 H&H, .444 marlin, 450 Marlin, 458 Win Mag.
Oh, 8×57, 303 Brit and 7.65×39 also. I probably forgot at least one.