Monday Afternoon Linkses

Happy Monday, everyone. One of my kids is sick again. It must be the cool thing to do. Tomorrow everyone is going to school who is able to maintain consciousness and not vomiting. Not because they’re “missing school” but because it throws off my routine and they’re well enough to want to go out and play. In this case, running around in the rain like he don’t have the sense to come in. Dad, what are you doing talking out of my mouth?

Today in the links:

  • Science confirms Adolf Hitler is actually dead. Plus a good rundown of Hitler myths. I mean, he’d be, I believe, the last surviving veteran of WWI at this point, so of course he’s dead.
  • 8-D Chess strikes again. That man is the luckiest sumbitch in the world. I wonder how much it will cost the individual American taxpayer to keep ZTE afloat. Is corporate welfare better than trade warfare?
  • But nobody is that lucky.
  • Headline says this box could become the coldest place in the known universe. I got excited thinking my ex-girlfriend had a terminal illness. Its just stupid science stuff
  • Pope decides tells this man God loves him like he is, gay and practicing. I’m pretty fucking cynical about this. Not that the Pope would say that in private, but that he said that to a victim of clerical abuse. I do hope any people who like to sleep with people of their same sex and want to be good Catholics get full recognition of being decent human beings who don’t deserve the scorn of any Catholic. I’m not sure I’m all about the Petrine Doctrine but it does seem to allow for the Bishop of Rome to uncover new revelations of God, if we’re going to be Catholic about it.

 

Speaking of the weather.

Comments

596 responses to “Monday Afternoon Linkses”

  1. A Leap at the Wheel

    I think someone is that lucky.

  2. Still not swimsuit weather here at altitude, but gals like these sustain me until then.

    http://archive.is/k1gHC

    My picks: 7, 10, 30 ,72, 78. My prediction for the commentariat’s pick: 6.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Check out the meat on this:
      https://youtu.be/bQFK_M3uEJk?t=294

      1. That is pretty mouth watering.

      2. Spudalicious

        I ate at Topolobampo a number of years ago. Mexican food elevated to Haute Cuisine.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I can honestly say that today is the first time I’ve boiled skirt steak.

          1. C. Anacreon

            How hot and wet do you like it?

            /Ms. Presley

    2. Sean

      Q, if you ever get your own TV show, you must make this your theme song:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPVgKoruWdA

    3. J. Frank Parnell

      I’ll take 15, plus 41 to keep me company while she’s out surfing.

    4. Tundra

      Nope. 55 wins.

    5. Rasilio

      yep 6 is right up there with 60 for best in show

    6. Spudalicious

      1, 2, 9, 12, 33, 57.

    7. DEG

      I figured #36 was ‘shopped, but a Google image search shoes that a) no, it isn’t, and b) her name is Joselyn Cano.

      #6 is a good choice, #64 looks like she can get shit done, and #77 reminds me of a bartender at a place I stop in at every now and then. I’ll just take those three this time.

    8. Myshkin

      1,10,26,30

      Honorable mention to 39

  3. Playa Manhattan

    “he’d be, I believe, the last surviving veteran of WWI at this point, so of course he’s dead.”

    That’s exactly what he wants you to think.

  4. The Other Kevin

    Everybody knows Hitler isn’t on the moon. Literally Hitler lives in the White House.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      He lives in everyone’s mind.

  5. Hitler isn’t dead, he’s in suspended animation – waiting for the 4th Reich.

    1. Negroni Please

      But his clones are all awake and busy

      1. Brett L

        You know what they say, “keep your enemies close and potential clones of HItler closer”

      2. Juvenile Bluster

        And by the way, if I was a clone of Adolf goddamn Hitler, wouldn’t I look like Adolf goddamn Hitler?

        1. Florida Man

          Maybe not exactly. Different nutrition, maybe you have a bad shaving accident, spend too much time in the sun, etc.

          1. J. Frank Parnell

            Exactly, you’d shave the mustache, lighten up your hair, put on a few pounds to disguise your features, maybe get a fake tan to give your skin kind of an orange complexion, and HEY WAIT A SECOND!

          2. Badolph Hilter

            What the hell happened to the Secret Nazi President series anyway? It was the best original content on this whole site, and possibly the entire non-nude segment of the internet.

          3. I think BP’s mom died. 🙁

          4. invisible finger

            Sort of a cross between Peter Sellers and Elvis Costello.

      3. Chafed

        +1 Krieger

    2. tarran

      And being trained in his sleep to be the Kung Fuhrer

  6. Endless Mike

    I think previous administrations have failed by trying to play foreign policy as 3-D chess. It’s actually best played as Rochambeau, and Trump is a master at Rochambeau.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Pigeon Chess.

  7. Playa Manhattan

    “This Box Could Become the Coldest Spot in the Universe”

    Disclaimer: We haven’t been anywhere else in the universe.

  8. Headline says this box could become the coldest place in the known universe.

    The photo accompanying that article reminded me of this (should be safe for work).

    1. Bobarian LMD

      should be safe for work

      But not what he does to that pussy later.

  9. Bobarian LMD

    the coldest place in the known universe

    Science! has found Hillary’s heart! There is nothing Science! can’t do.

  10. Negroni Please

    So the negotiations are complete. We are vacating Florida and moving to Colorado at the end of summer. Hopefully this is the place we get to finally settle down. It’s close to my family, but not too close. Plentiful outdoor fun to be had. If only it weren’t for that bullshit state income tax it would be close to perfect.

    1. Tundra

      Congratulations! I’m happy for you. Now you can finally sell that Miata!

      1. Negroni Please

        Danke. Yes now we have to sell the Miata. Moving allowance is not so great this time and it’s gonna be tight. Moving here was easy because they offered such an obscene amount in moving compensation that I joked we should fly our shit here in a helicopter. That meant wife was able to spend 1300 buck shipping her shitty convertible. This time though all extraneous shit needs to be sold/donated/dumpstered.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Dispose of it Florida Man style.

          1. Trade it for meth? Well, the meth would take up less space I guess.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            And it will make the drive to Colorado much quicker.

          3. Florida Man

            Tannerite was the correct answer.

          4. Sean

            ^^ That is always a correct answer.

    2. Brett L

      Congrats. Maybe we can get dinner before you guys leave. You can meet Mrs. L on your way out.

      1. Negroni Please

        Awesome. We’re here until mid-August and the wife is crazy busy until her summer session ends July 20 so some time around then would be good. We can come your way this time. I still haven’t really seen anything in St. Pete.

        1. Brett L

          That would be great. My wife is doing 10 hour clinical shifts until about then, so I’ll look you up in late July.

          1. Negroni Please

            good deal

    3. topnotchtoledo

      Congrats, you will be close to Rocky Mountain NP, one of the most beautiful spots on earth. Had the pleasure of leading backpacking trips there for two summers.

    4. DEG

      Congratulations!

  11. Count Potato

    “Let me be crystal clear: You will literally never be able to achieve this in America without a civil war.”

    https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/998653154974564352

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I disagree with the phrasing.

      In spite of a civil war, you will literally never be able to achieve this in America.

      1. Tundra

        Exactly. The sentence should end at ‘America’.

    2. Grumbletarian

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      Well there’s well over a million people in the military and it only takes a few people to fly a drone and a F15 so.

      It takes more than a few people to get an F-15 armed, flight ready, fueled, and off the ground, sugar tits.

  12. PBRstreetgang

    You know who else confirmed HItler is actually dead

    1. Florida Man

      The Bear Jew?

    2. Negroni Please
    3. CPRM

      I was going to say Udo Kier in Iron Sky, but.

    4. Chipwooder

      Obergruppenfuhrer Smith?

    5. J. Frank Parnell

      The hero who killed Hitler?

    6. invisible finger

      Al Haig?

  13. Winston

    Is corporate welfare better than trade warfare?

    Assumes that trade policy and corporate welfare are different things…

  14. Speaking of the weather.

    Not this song?

    1. Brett L

      I thought a husky voiced chick sang that.

      1. It doesn’t have anything to do with the weather, but perhaps you were thinking of this?

  15. Lachowsky

    Jeebus with the Hitler propaganda. Everybody knows he escaped the bunker, moved to new York, and got into real estate developing.

  16. Florida Man

    The Cold Atom Laboratory (CAL) is a compact instrument about the size of a beer cooler, and it uses lasers to generate a super-cooled environment 10 billion times colder than the vacuum of space.

    First, how do lasers make something cold? Second, I put my beer in your experiment. Can you give it back?

    1. Brett L

      First, how do lasers make something cold?

      “For an ensemble of particles, their temperature is proportional to the variance in their velocity. That is, more homogeneous velocities among particles corresponds to a lower temperature. Laser cooling techniques combine atomic spectroscopy with the aforementioned mechanical effect of light to compress the velocity distribution of an ensemble of particles, thereby cooling the particles.”

      — Wikipedia

      1. Florida Man

        Now explain it to me like I’m a backwoods redneck.

        1. Brett L

          Its like how your sister can drink Diet Coke all day and still get fat.

          1. Sean

            LOL

        2. kinnath

          Heat is atoms bouncing off each other.

          Get’m all going the same direction at the same speed, then no bouncing, then no heat.

        3. A Leap at the Wheel

          Fact you just need to accept: When an atom is moving toward a laser, the atom slows down when a photon hits it. When an atom is moving away from a laser, nothing happens.

          So point two lasers at each other. The atoms in between will slow down from laser A when going in direction A. The atoms will slow down from laser B when going in direction B.

          After a while, no matter what direction it started, the atom basically comes to a stop. When all the atoms are basically at a stop, they are at the temperature of basically absolute zero.

          1. Florida Man

            I like the Diet Coke one. Jk, thanks for the explanation.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      DON’T DO IT

      I put a Sol in the ice maker the other day and then forgot about it.

      It exploded, and now all of my ice tastes like beer.

      1. Lachowsky

        I went to a liquor store in Kansas City several years ago. They had a basin that had sub freezing temperature water rapidly circulating through it. It would chill a bottle of room temp wine in just a few minutes. I thought it was pretty cool.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Yeah, they had one at my local grocery, but they got rid of it because people were playing with it.

      2. Florida Man

        Been there.

      3. Bobarian LMD

        And then you have to spend all that time eating your ice.

        The headaches are a bitch.

    3. Lachowsky

      I dunno, but a standard air conditioning system’s process starts with compressing a gas to heat it up. Something similiar here I suppose.

      1. Brett L

        I think they can use precise wavelengths to force a particle to absorb one wavelength proton and emit a proton with the wavelength to get the particle to its lowest energy state. If you do it right, I guess the emitted photons are wrong for higher energy atoms to absorb? I got a gentleman’s C in physical chemistry, so anything beyond s,p,d,f orbitals and counting the electrons is basically magic to me.

  17. Lachowsky

    When you buy your wife a t shirt machine, she will come up with the best shirts.

    Today was my boy’s last day of kindergarten. He wore one of these to school. I laughed.

    1. Brett L

      I love it.

  18. Scruffy Nerfherder

    This morning I got to take the middle child to the pediatrician for a follow-up checkup after she fainted this weekend.

    I got the honor because I was the one showing her a youtube video of a giant centipede biting a guy who proceeds to holler and wail and roll around when she fell out shortly thereafter.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Fainting at that kind of stuff is OK.

      Did she hit her head?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Nah, she collapsed like a sack of potatoes while reaching for a glass. Fortunately, she did not make contact with the granite countertop.

        Her first words upon revival – “Am I alive?”

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      They’ll never let your live that down.

  19. Winston

    Hello Andrea Horwath…

    Where’s Barfman?

  20. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/kaleidoscopeken/status/998098804107874304

    “Defund the NRA and use that money to increase teacher pay”

    There is just so many things wrong with this that this Tweet should just be labeled “The problem with democratic elections”

    1. Just Say’n

      The best part is when one commentator gets cheeky after people keep saying “the government doesn’t fund the NRA”. “But, they’re tax exempt and that’s a subsidy” smart guy says. Even smarter guy replies “now do Planned Parenthood and why the government needs to keep funding them”.

    2. Lachowsky

      How do you defunct the NRA? It’s funded 100% by membership fees and donations.

      1. Lachowsky

        Defund damnit.

    3. Count Potato
      1. Rufus the Monocled

        The Idiocracy has arrived.

        1. Winston

          I live in Ontario pal…

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            That’s worse!

        2. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Sumo cums loud? Sounds profane to me.

      2. CPRM

        They were embarrassed because the cake had dashes?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Jew fargin icehoe! I was gonna post dat, jew some-a-na-beach

          1. Tundra

            Careful. I’ve got an .88 Magnum!

          2. Chipwooder

            It shoots through schools.

      3. Chipwooder

        4.79 GPA? What a bunch of grade-inflating bullshit.

      4. Some Cum Loud.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      And what happens when those funds run out and the next time teacher’s demand mo’money? Who will they demonize and raid then?

      Do people think anymore?

      I hate this kind of ‘defund this’ or ‘cut back that’ and send it ‘here’ logic.

      Back when Canada was cutting the military budget Canadians were all like ‘who is going to invade us?’ and ‘put it in public health!’. To the former, shows how remarkably naive and immature they are. Gee, can it be because we fall under the sphere of the American military empire no one fucks with Canada? And what if we were invaded? What kind of self-respecting country doesn’t have a functional military to defend itself on some level? And the latter, let’s all live for public health. One person on the radio even said don’t fun Olympics athletes because public health needs money.

      Morons.

    5. Playa Manhattan

      “It’s completely asinine for you to harass a kid that just survived a school mass shooting a couple of days ago, by labeling her ideas as asinine instead having compassion and expressing sympathy or condolences for her having experienced such a horrific tragedy.”

      Yep. That’s the new gun grabbing strategy. Human shields. Or, more accurately, human children shields.

      1. Lachowsky

        Gun grabbers dance on the corpses of the victims and use the survivors as human shields.

        They also lie. I’m stealing that last bit from Suthen. He has said it several times and I like it.

        1. Suthenboy

          I wish I could say it was mine but I got it from another commenter here, I just cant remember who. I slightly rephrased it, thats all.

      2. invisible finger

        If all it takes for complete respect is to get shot at and survive, heroin dealers should be in charge of everything.

        1. egould310

          I had a gangster kid try to jack my motorcycle in Venice back in 1994. Ran up to me at a stop sign while pulling a pistol out of his waist band. I gunned my Kawasaki and took off like a bullet. Heard the shots and gripped the throttle. I didn’t get shot. Im pretty much a hero.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    We are vacating Florida and moving to Colorado at the end of summer.

    Nice. Good luck!

  22. Count Potato

    “Lesbian escapes Russia by boat and sails to Canada to be with the woman she loves
    Assaulted by her family, this woman survived two oceans and a hurricane to find a safe haven”

    https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/lesbian-escapes-russia-boat-sails-canada-woman-loves/

    1. Playa Manhattan

      If you can afford a boat and sailing lessons, you can afford a plane ticket.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      Hot lesbians on a boat?

      Sounds like it needs a script. Something that Cinemax used to go with.

      1. Chafed

        Q to the courtesy phone. Q to the courtesy phone please.

      2. slumbrew

        On a related note, I was really hoping for an update on this sketchy story, but I’m not seeing anything.

        1. dontreadonme

          I would venture to say there was at least one vessel rammed a lot on that tiny ship.

      3. Suthenboy

        There is already a movie based on actual events. Two hookers from Gibraltar sail to florida with some dude. The story ends when one of the hookers gets jealous and kills the other two, then herself. Fantasies are better than reality.

  23. Winston

    Headline says this box could become the coldest place in the known universe

    Libertopia?

  24. Gilmore

    whoo boy.

    fucking hell, someone linked to this guy Dan Gardner saying, “Maybe we shouldn’t jump on an isolated phrase and interpret it in the most cynical way possible…”

    and then 1000 harpies tore him to shreds

    people really don’t like this jordan peterson person. And i doubt 1 in 10 has ever even read a single thing he’s written or watched his speaking engagements (aside from maybe youtube “X DESTROYS Y” clips)

    i don’t think the dude is particularly exciting or interesting. i liked his arguments in the C16 testimony re: compelled speech, how law treats ‘gender’, human rights, etc. more than that, i think he’s just been turned into the Left’s Pinata for no reason at all other than they NEED pinata’s to smash

    1. Count Potato

      So you are saying you we should gas the jews?

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I will not speak for Gilmore, but yes, that is exactly what he is saying.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s excerpted form the NYT interview I perused this weekend.

      I’ll give the Times credit for being the most effective at making Peterson look like a bona fide wackadoodle. I read it wishing I had a copy of the original interview because the way that they edited it was horrible.

      Peterson should never have agreed to an interview with the NYT without guarantees of a full transcript being made available.

      1. Gilmore

        Yep. I can’t believe he doesn’t demand every single interview be recorded and video taped.

        but whatever. i’m not interested in him, i’m interested in the ferocity of the mob/media-nexus in crucifying people who upset their bullshit.

        1. Here’s the Vice News “interview” https://youtu.be/DZrSrZpX5l8 – good comparison of clips.

    3. straffinrun

      Pointing out even one instance of misrepresentation by the left if you are on the left means you are pulling on a loose thread. You start yanking on that and you’ll unravel the whole rug.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    “Defund the NRA and use that money to increase teacher pay”

    That makes sense, if you honestly believe all money belongs to “society”, I guess.

    *That’s even dumber than “Put a tax on bullets to pay for schools.”

    1. Lachowsky

      We should tax gas to pay for roads.

  26. Count Potato

    “Feminist ≠ Feminine? Feminist Women Are Visually Masculinized Whereas Feminist Men Are Feminized

    Many people hold negative stereotypes about feminists. Verbally, feminist women are often described in masculine terms whereas feminist men tend to be described in feminine terms. Here, we demonstrate that these effects extend to a fundamental perceptual level, more specifically, to the domain of face perception even in Norway, the most gender-egalitarian country of the world. Four studies were conducted using a data-driven reverse-correlation technique to test how feminist women and men are visually represented. In Studies 1 (n = 123) and 2 (n = 61), Norwegians had more masculine-looking and less feminine-looking visual representations of feminist women as compared to women with moderate gender-related beliefs or other activist identities (i.e., the control conditions). These effects, which were particularly pronounced among male participants and those with stronger hostile sexist beliefs, further explained why feminist women were perceived as threatening. In Studies 3 (n = 131) and 4 (n = 74), participants had a less masculine-looking visual representation of feminist men as compared to the control condition. This effect was especially pronounced among female participants. In addition, effects were again moderated by hostile sexism, such that participants with stronger hostile sexist beliefs visualized the feminist man as less masculine than the man in the control condition. In sum, the results suggest that people have asymmetrically gendered visual representations of feminist women and men. Feminist women are visually represented as more masculine whereas the opposite is true for feminist men. We discuss our findings in light of women’s and men’s reluctance to identify as feminists and suggest potential interventions to change biased visual representations of feminists.”

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-018-0931-7

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      WE MUST CONTROL ALL THOUGHT

  27. The Late P Brooks

    How about “Defund the NFL and spend that money on teachers”?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It would definitely be more money than you would get from “defunding” the NRA.

    2. Lachowsky

      So boiled down, what they are saying is, people should quit giving their money to a certain groups and pay for their own damn schooling.

      That’s not too bad.

      1. invisible finger

        Might get better results with the NRA teaching my kids.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      How about defunding the Dept of Education and buying everyone guns? The kids too, they can have .22s.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        The boys can have .22’s. The girls get .1496’s.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    Save us from ourselves, Mommy!

    A coalition of left-leaning groups have launched an ad campaign to petition the Federal Trade Commission to break up Facebook, saying that it has become a monopoly.

    The campaign, dubbed “Freedom from Facebook,” calls for the FTC to spin off WhatsApp, Instagram, and Messenger into separate businesses, to develop “interoperability standards,” which let users communicate between different social networks, and to give users more control over their data.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    1. Brett L

      Huh. I use none of those anymore and feel like I am fully able to participate in today’s economy.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I’m on Facebook and Instagram a total of about 5 minutes a month if that. If I didn’t have a granddaughter, I wouldn’t be on at all.

        1. Tundra

          “I’m not on Facebook, just send me the picture.” works well for me.

        2. trshmnstr

          I use insta for pretty pictures of landscapes, coral reefs, fighter jets, guns, BBQ, and cats… Oh and a few old friends. Occasionally politics comes up, but it’s 99% pro-2A stuff.

          Facebook was a cesspool and I haven’t missed it, even for a moment.

        3. CPRM

          You could always just invite your granddaughter to post on Glibs, then you wouldn’t need facebook. I’m sure she’d be safe here.

          1. Well, it is a family-friendly website.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Oh her mom would love that. Lol.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’d be willing to bet that the vast majority of Facebook fake news is leftist in tone.

      The progs just cannot accept that alternative opinions exist, so they will burn the house down to rid themselves of it,

    3. CPRM

      Like 60 minutes last night that I caught a bit of while I was cooking, Google is a monopoly and needs to be broken up. They had the woman in charge of EU internet regulation or some such and she was complaining about companies not showing up until the third page of a google search, “Who looks at the third page of a google search?” she asked. The answer seems pretty easy to me, people who didn’t find what they were looking for on the first two pages.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        I couldn’t agree more. It’s only fair if ALL google results are on line 1 of the first page.

    4. Why don’t people just migrate to Myspace?

  29. Lachowsky

    IOW voters are dumb

    The raise applies to the state’s constitutional officers, judges, prosecutors and legislators and will cost the state $1.2 million annually. The panel that approved the raises was created by a 2014 voter approved amendment.

    1. Negroni Please

      That was already proven by the 16th through 19th amendments….

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Verbally, feminist women are often described in masculine terms

    I just assume they’re fat.

    1. Lachowsky

      or abrasive

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Well, they’re definitely sandy

    2. Grumbletarian

      Since when is ‘bitchy’ masculine?

  31. AlmightyJB

    Infallible is as infallible does.

    1. Just Say’n

      The Pope is not infallible. This is a misconception

      1. Negroni Please

        Correct! Even when the Pope speaks ex cathedra he is still not infallible. Because he is still a dude. And Catholic dogma is dumb.

        1. Just Say’n

          “Dogma” concerns matters such as Jesus being both man and God and Mary being a virgin when she birthed Jesus, etc.

          There is a difference between Catholic law and dogma, but clearly you don’t seem to realize that

          1. Negroni Please

            Catholic dogma includes an ex cathedra pronouncement such as the Assumption of Mary. That is dogma BECAUSE of the stupid idea of papal infallibility. Clearly you don’t seem to realize that Eddie Jr.

          2. Just Say’n

            The Assumption of Mary was already a belief held by the Church. The pope raised it to status of dogma (meaning that if you do not believe this then you are not Catholic). And the pope only would have done this, because he had support from the cardinals. Cardinals can challenge a pope’s teachings by issuing a “dubia” (or a “challenge”).

            When you criticize “papal infallibility” you are criticizing Catholic law. Not dogma

          3. Negroni Please

            In this case I am criticizing both. The concept of ex cathedra infallible pronouncements is dumb. The Assumption of Mary is a silly idea that has no scriptural support. It was elevated to the status of dogma by Pius XII.

            The dogma is dumb. The canon law system that allowed Pius to elevate the teaching to dogma is also dumb.

            I am not Catholic so it should be very unsurprising that I think Catholic ideology is stupid. Not being a member of the group, does not mean I am uneducated about said group.

          4. Just Say’n

            Every time someone falls back on “well, that’s not in the Bible” it’s a pretty good indicator that they are not Catholic.

            Maybe Aquinas, St. Augustine, and Robert Bellarmine are dumb too. I wonder why the Catholic Church is the only Christian church that produced great philosophers whose arguments every philosopher has wrestled with since the time of Decartes?

          5. Negroni Please

            The church of Augustine looked nothing like the church of Aquinas. And neither look much like the church of today. Church history prior to the Reformation is the same for all Christian denominations. Lutherans and Presbyterians are just as much the inheritors of Augustine (and many would argue more so) as the Roman Catholics.

            Both Protestants and Catholics owe their homophobia more to John Chrysostom and Tertullian than to anything scriptural.

            The theological history of Christianity is one big muddy mess. It’s all one big dysfunctional family and personally, I reject all of it.

          6. Just Say’n

            “Church history prior to the Reformation is the same for all Christian denominations.”

            Even though most of those faiths disavow most of the teaching of that church?

            I’m not going to get into an argument with you here, but the supposed “homophobia” within any church is due to the poor actions of its adherents and not of the established church itself.

            But, the sexual ethics of the Catholic Church (which are not homophobic as they pertain to heterosexual sex, as well) is more rooted in naturalistic Stoicism than any one individual. Even Romans had sexual taboos about homosexuality. One of the accusations levied against Caesar by his political enemies was that he engaged in regular sexual relations with boys rather than his wife. To the Romans sexual relations between men was fine, so long as one was never receiving and a man also bed women.

            The Romans were not as sexually liberated as the Greeks.

            But, in terms of the Church’s sexual ethics it basically breaks down to any sexual relation that is not with the intention of reproducing and is not within a marriage recognized by the Church is sinful. Married couples are allowed to pursue the rhythm method, which reduces the likelihood of impregnating the woman, but does not completely eliminate the possibility.

            The idea of not involving the hand of man in reproduction is not really a novel idea. And if you read the philosophical justifications for its sexual ethics, which is rooted in the same logic behind its opposition to abortion in euthanasia, you’ll find that the argument is logical and consistent

          7. Just Say’n

            “Lutherans and Presbyterians are just as much the inheritors of Augustine (and many would argue more so) as the Roman Catholics.”

            I take it you are not familiar with Luther’s critiques of Aquinas?

            Now can you explain to me the logic behind the Presbyterian and Lutheran sexual ethics which are more homophobic as more leeway is provided to heterosexuals who engage in sexual activity that has no possibility of producing life?

          8. Just Say’n

            * Augustine, not Aquinas

          9. Spudalicious

            “Dogma” was a fun movie.

        2. invisible finger

          There’s an intelligent dogma somewhere?

          1. Just Say’n

            Well played. You summed up dogma better than I with less words. “Dogma” is the “leap of faith”.

      2. AlmightyJB

        Glad to see Catholics are cherry pickers too.

        1. Just Say’n

          Not at all. Outsiders don’t seem to grasp what papal infallibility means. It is quite hilarious to anyone who has even a cursory understand of the definition

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I know what it means.

            It means he can’t fall over, like a Weeble Wobble.

          2. A Leap at the Wheel

            Most practicing Catholics don’t have a grasp on what papal infallibility is supposed to mean. The priest that confirmed me told me that it means the pope is infallible when he says he is and not when he doesn’t.

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I always thought it was inflammable, like he had special fireproof Pope powers.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Due to its nature as an autoantonym, everything is inflammable.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            So it’s true!

        2. Negroni Please

          “inflammable”

          This word. I do not think it means what you think it means….

          1. Bobarian LMD

            You can use the Pope to start a fire?

          2. Mojeaux

            We didn’t start the fire.

        3. mexican sharpshooter

          Certainly give new meaning of the term, “Lighten up Francis.”

      4. Suthenboy

        “The Pope is not infallible. This is a misconception”

        I was tossed out of Catechism for saying that.

        1. C. Anacreon

          You should have said it was an immaculate misconception.

  32. Just Say’n

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycEa1l01_A0

    Construction workers protesting against Seattle’s socialist council member and her “head tax”.

    Socialism is the opiate of the rich, in the truest sense of the phrase.

    1. invisible finger

      I don’t remember construction unions protesting Old Man Daley’s head tax. There was a little kvetching about Little Richie abolishing it, but not much.

      1. Just Say’n

        Old Man never wanted to implement the tax or so his supporters told the business community. It was done to prop-up the City’s financial position at a time when most Midwestern cities were financially ruined. Junior got rid of it, because it made no sense anymore.

        Under the old man the City’s credit rating was in the “AA” category, but under junior the City’s credit rating sunk to the low “A”s. It currently is just above junk. Maintaining the head tax would not have helped the City’s financial position, much like it will not help Seattle’s financial position in the long run

    2. Chafed

      It was funny when they shouted her down and pointed out that was her tactic.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    “Here are some photographs. Which of these women do you think are feminists?”

    “Hmm,, let’s see. This one, for sure. She’s really angry looking.”

    1. Bobarian LMD

      “Her box looks like the coldest place in the universe”

      /Bringing it back around

  34. J. Frank Parnell

    Defund the NEA and use that money to increase teacher pay.

    1. Tundra

      Defund all 400+ federal agencies. The teachers will have plenty of money.

      1. Florida Man

        Privatize education and teachers will have all the money that the market will bear.

        1. Badolph Hilter

          In other words, gigantic pay cuts for most.

          1. Badolph Hilter

            Make that “many”. I don’t have enough data to claim “most”.

          2. Florida Man

            I have no idea. My gut is most teachers would get a raise when money isn’t diverted to administration/infrastructure.

  35. Sour Kraut

    Per the Sun:

    The comments are the most striking public acceptance about homosexuality ever made by a head of the Roman Catholic Church.

    Here is a story I heard during a guided tour in Venice. We walked by a bridge that was prostitution central. Apparently in the good old days there were approximately 50,000 prostitutes in Venice.

    Unfortunately for the prostitutes, homosexuality became very fashionable for a while and it cost them some business. So, the prostitutes petitioned the Doge to crack down on homosexuality so they could get business back. Which he did not do.

    So, no. I don’t think this was the moment of greatest acceptance of homosexuality by the Catholic Church.

    1. There were 50,000 prostitutes in Venice like there are 50,000 prostitutes at the Olympics.

    2. Tundra

      …50,000 prostitutes in Venice.

      That’s most of the population of Venice. I thought the fishy smell was just low tide…

      1. invisible finger

        They’re using the orthodox definition of “prostitute” – any unmarried woman.

    3. Count Potato

      So pimp. Much gay.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Defund Harvard and use the money for education.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      OK, you win the thread

      1. Badolph Hilter

        Well, he started his own thread. Kind of lowers the bar I think.

    1. Chipwooder

      The picture of multiple Ronald McDonalds in the replies fucking killed me

      1. PBRstreetgang

        I literally laughed out loud at that one. Co-workers looking at me all funny.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          I’ve been giggling like a madman.

    2. Playa Manhattan

      #IBelieveTheChildren

    3. Raven Nation

      “Whitney
      ‏ @DrZank
      Replying to @BoriquaW @EricaOnABC13

      You’re right. I was raised in the suburbs, and admittedly I’m probably talking out of my ass. But how many people have had to bury entire generations due to people who espouse white supremacist ideology? What harm comes from believing a child?”

      Dan Keller, for one, what like a word with you.

    4. The reporter is a Mizzou alum. Hmmm …

  37. Just Say’n

    “Pope decides tells this man God loves him like he is, gay and practicing.”

    This is standard Catholic doctrine and is not at all radical. Being “gay” in and of itself is not a sin. Homosexual sexual activity is the sin in the eyes of the church. Equivalent to heterosexual sexual activity outside of marriage or sexual intercourse that is not vaginal or vaginal intercourse that is done without copulation inside the woman or vaginal intercourse with contraceptives.

    “I do hope any people who like to sleep with people of their same sex and want to be good Catholics get full recognition of being decent human beings who don’t deserve the scorn of any Catholic.”

    Yeah, so, this has always been the Catholic position. Everyone sins and just because you have sinned does not make you a bad person. That is why penance exists.

    “I’m not sure I’m all about the Petrine Doctrine but it does seem to allow for the Bishop of Rome to uncover new revelations of God, if we’re going to be Catholic about it.”

    This is usually the surest tell tale sign that someone is not familiar with the Pope’s role at all. What you just cited is the pope’s supremacy, not his supposed infallibility. The Pope is only infallible when concerning matters of clarifying the faith and has only been used once in modern times concerning the Assumption of Mary. The Pope cannot change sexual ethics as that is beyond his authority.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      >Equivalent to heterosexual sexual activity outside of marriage or sexual intercourse that is not vaginal or vaginal intercourse that is done without copulation inside the woman or vaginal intercourse with contraceptives.

      Yeah, most people who get their knickers in a twist think that the Catholic Church is singling out homosexuals. Its not. It applies its stupid ideology to everyone.

      1. kinnath

        I’m not interested in defending Catholic views on sin and proper behavior. But their views have been pretty well known for a couple of thousand years. If you can’t follow the Catholic teachings, then don’t be a Catholic.

        1. Tundra

          Absolutely. The Episcopal Church is right across the street.

        2. Just Say’n

          Their sexual ethics are also consistent.

        3. Gadfly

          But their views have been pretty well known for a couple of thousand years.

          And considering that those views were also established during a time of more promiscuous sexual mores among the general populace, it would seem a bit silly to go back on them now. If your predecessors condemned behaviors that were practiced by a god-emperor who could order your death at his displeasure, you can’t exactly retcon that just because you suffered a few negative op-eds.

    2. trshmnstr

      This is standard Catholic doctrine and is not at all radical. Being “gay” in and of itself is not a sin. Homosexual sexual activity is the sin in the eyes of the church. Equivalent to heterosexual sexual activity outside of marriage

      This is pretty much core Christianity right here

      . Anybody who strays from this (in the sense of being hateful toward gays. I’m not gonna dive into the issue of denominations that have gone the other direction) and calls themselves a Christian is either not a Christian, or is very bad at being a Christian. Not to say that we don’t all have our flaws, but this is Christianity 101 type stuff.

      1. Just Say’n

        The Church has been reciting “love the sinner, hate the sin” since forever. Which was recited to my Catholic school class when we learned about sexual ethics. This is pretty rudimentary stuff right here and it’s perplexing that these things are foreign to people.

      2. Chipwooder

        Exactly. A core tenet of every branch of Christianity I’ve ever come in contact with is that we are all sinners, every one of us. The most pious and godly of men is still a sinner. Christ died on the cross so your sins may be forgiven. This is literally “Christianity for Dummies”.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      What’s the policy on mouth sex?

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Sin, just like any other non-procreative sexual act.

        1. Just Say’n

          Yes. It is a highly restrictive sexual ethic that doesn’t value sexual relations outside of marriage and that is not being done for the purpose of procreation, sort of. Most people don’t realize, but there is one “contraceptive” that the Church approves of, which is the “rhythm method”, which is to only have sexual relations when the woman is least fertile during her cycle.

          The Church allows the “rhythm method” for married couples

        2. AlmightyJB

          Sin = Fun.

      2. Lachowsky

        It’s banned, but Catholics do it all the time anyway. Same with using condoms and the like. Hetero catholics can do this all the time and not be scorned because it’s done in private and isn’t known by anybody but the perpetrators. Gay catholics have a bit of a harder time concealing their sins from the judgement of their peers.

        1. Just Say’n

          That’s a fair point.

          However, some heterosexuals tip their hand by living with someone outside of marriage.

        2. A Leap at the Wheel

          The point is to make every single person feel like they are doing something wrong so that the organization can use that shame to aggregate power to itself. Authoritarians have a much harder time ruling over those who see themselves as innocent, and the solution is always to turn the innocent into the guilty in their own mind.

          1. Just Say’n

            The difference is that no one is holding a gun to anyone’s head to be Catholic, Lutheran, Muslim, Episcopalian, Jewish, etc. And that is the problem with equating any faith with “authoritarians”. You’re free to leave if you don’t like the rules

          2. invisible finger

            It’s what I call “the projection protection”, which proggies use every second of their lives – they want to be the ultimate authoritarians so they claim everyone they don’t like is an authoritarian to make it look like they aren’t.

            Not that ultra-religious types never used the same tactics, but in 21st century America it’s proggies doing it and doing it harder than the Billy Sundays and Jerry Falwells of last century.

          3. A Leap at the Wheel

            1) Authoritarianism doesn’t require violence, it requires a social structure where decision makeing by authority is elevated above egalitarian decision making. Even if that decision making is as ephemeral as what is sin and not backed up by force. The Mormans are authorization. It’s not bad for a free will organization to be authorization per se. Unless their foundational text is a big long story about the errors of authitarianism and tribalism. Which it is by my reading.

            2) The structure of the Catholic Church is a product of a time when their authorization decision making absolutely was backed up by state force.

            Excuse the errors on mobile.

          4. Just Say’n

            1) Then literally every organization is “authoritarian” and what you are expressing is the radical anarchist position. Which I don’t accept.

            2) More often than not the Catholic Church has actually been opposed by State authorities than being supported by said authorities.

          5. {|}===[|}:;:;:;:;:;:;:>

            “no one is holding a gun to anyone’s head to be Catholic, Lutheran, Muslim, Episcopalian, Jewish, etc.”
            FTFY

          6. Gadfly

            On the other hand, I’d say if you were blameless in the eyes of your own moral code that said code may be deficient. Sure, there may be some people who are perfect, but most aren’t. A moral code in which most people are innocent seems like one that’s probably tailored to provide comfort rather than seek truth. Which is an entirely different matter from a legal code, mind, as I would also find deficient a legal code in which most people are guilty.

          7. Florida Man

            I don’t know, my moral code is pretty easy to follow: don’t hurt people, don’t take their stuff.

      3. Bobarian LMD

        “It’s not sex.”

        /B Clinton

        “But it will get yer head split with an ashtray.”

        /H Clinton

        1. invisible finger

          Please. That toxic cunt has battered wife syndrome, she’d never bite the hand that feeds.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Well, I’ve heard from two separate sources that this did happen.

    4. Just Say’n

      It’s probably best that if you don’t understand what you are critiquing that you hold back on the analysis.

      I do find it to be curious, though, how Catholic sexual ethics are somehow uniquely homophobic when all sex outside of marriage or sexual relations not done with the possibility of procreation is a sin in the Catholic church. This cannot be said for other Christian denominations that forbid homosexual sex, but allow for contraceptives in heterosexual sex. And somehow this inconsistency is not viewed as biased against homosexuals.

    5. wdalasio

      That is why penance exists.

      But, that’s sort of the problem right there. Isn’t penance predicated on repentance?

      I’ll take a different sin because homosexual sex is a bit of a landmine. Let’s say I have premarital sex on a regular basis. I’m not ashamed of my behavior and have every intention having as much premarital sex as I possibly can. It strikes me that, in those circumstances, my sins can’t really be forgiven. I’m not really penitent. I just want an excuse for my sins.

  38. Derpetologist

    CNN sez:

    No, no one is stealing from Social Security
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/opinions/social-security-myths-opinion-richtman/index.html

    ***
    Every year since 1984, the Social Security system has had more income than it needs to pay current benefits and administrative costs, so it invests the surplus in interest-bearing government bonds, backed by the full faith and credit of the US Treasury.
    Why put the surplus payroll funds in Treasury notes? If you had $2.8 trillion in extra cash, wouldn’t you want the money to earn interest instead of stuffing it under your mattress?
    ***

    [head desk]

    1. tarran

      Those are the special bonds that cannot be sold to the public, right? The ones that can only be cashed into the treasury department, right?

      In other words, when they want to monetize those bonds…. they have to go to Congress and ask them for the money back.

      Good luck with that.

    2. CPRM

      You see, the government borrows that money to itself with the promise to pay itself more when the bonds mature; only a stupid person would think there was anything wrong with that scheme.

  39. A Leap at the Wheel

    With the new design of Google News, it has gone from a mildly useful tool to keep abreast of the news that stupid people follow and is now a firehose of targeted news stories that target shit I don’t care about.

    Is there a good alternative? I’m looking for something that will give me the run down of major news stories from ‘mainstream’ publications, plus search for trending stories on niche topics that I tell it. Preferably with each topic segregated and orderly.

    Does such a thing exist?

    1. trshmnstr

      Ahem… *points to the top of the page*

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        If it wasn’t clear, I’m looking to read things published by people who don’t share ideological, social, and political opinions with me.

        1. trshmnstr

          I figured, but I don’t have a good answer, so I took the asshole route. ? Everybody has to let their inner asshole prolapse every once in a while.

        2. invisible finger

          Why would you want to empower them?

    2. tarran

      Try Feedly

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Isn’t that just an RSS reader? I’m looking for more automagic news aggregation.

    3. Derpetologist

      I like this:

      https://usa.liveuamap.com/

      You can pick whatever region you like.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        This might be what I’m looking for. Thanks

    4. Derpetologist

      Fark is the original news aggregator. It’s still decent.

      https://www.fark.com/

    5. Gilmore

      I long ago decided that WaPo/NYT/CNN etc were garbage fires of “trending bullshit”…

      …and AP + Reuters were closer to “better” – tho not perfect – sources of ‘basic news’\

      i plugged both into an RSS reader and i get a steady stream of headlines on my desktop. none are to “x idiot writes editorial masked as reporting’ stuff – just “This happened”. details.

    1. Winston

      Would you associate that with GOP Successes or Dem failures?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Only one of those things is real.

    2. Just Say’n

      That’s an outlier. I still hold that they lose the House. I’ll take all bets on that assumption

      1. Gadfly

        It is an outlier, and I do think your prediction of the House is the most reasonable at the present time, but the trend line is looking less and less like a blue wave and more like a blue ripple, at most. In the RCP average the D’s have gone from +13 in December to +4 now, and given that the Dems often perform +2 in pre-election polls to election results I’d bet the real sentiment of the nation is D+2 at the moment. It’s going to be close, either way it goes.

      2. Spudalicious

        I would call it an outlier, but it is a Reuter’s poll.

  40. creech

    Speaking of Hitler’s fate, glibs may enjoy Joseph Heywood’s 1987 novel, “The Berkut.” Even has, for Q and his ilk, nubile German girls.

    1. Chipwooder

      Wow, I haven’t thought of that one in a while! Good book.

  41. Gilmore

    BREAKING: A baboon escaped an American Airlines flight and is currently on the loose at the San Antonio airport. Police say they have it cornered near the baggage area

    This is what happens when you tell the passenger “there will be no complimentary snacks on this flight”

    1. Chipwooder

      Emotional support baboon?

    2. Count Potato

      Was it an emotional support baboon?

      1. Chipwooder

        In your FACE,Count Potato!

        1. FACE EATING BABOON!!!

        2. Simultaneous posts are cataloged alphabetically, no?

    3. A Leap at the Wheel

      What do you think the odds are that two readers here misplaced their emotional support baboons on the same day?

    4. Lachowsky

      And another monkey is shot by the police.

    5. kinnath

      Seen on Facebook this weekend.

      Humans eat more bananas than monkeys.

      I don’t remember the last time I ate a monkey.

      1. Badolph Hilter

        You never go to a coney for lunch?

    6. Rhywun

      I hope it doesn’t find its way onto my United flight tomorrow morning.

      1. Count Potato

        If it’s United, wouldn’t adding a baboon be an improvement?

  42. Count Potato

    https://twitter.com/RacismDog

    “We trained our dog to sniff out racism and bark when he finds it. Now that’s a good boy.”

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      I hope that dog dies from tail cancer.

      1. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

        HM-don’t be so harsh. The poor pooch is obviously retarded, and has the misfortune of having fuckwit owners.

  43. Derpetologist

    https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmoral/articles/20180520

    ***
    In April 2019 the head of the Australian military, army general Angus Campbell, who was a career infantry and special operations officer, ordered that members of the Australian military halt the use of “aggressive” symbols like Spartans (ancient Greek soldiers) or fictional characters like the Phantom or Punisher (and more to come given the proliferation of violent video games out there) as well as the grim reaper, skull and crossbones, and similar symbols that were not in line with Australian army values and the ethical armed forces Australia sought to build and sustain. The announcement generated some revealing reactions.

    While few of these symbols are used for official insignia by combat units, many are used unofficially for banners, clothing and for large bombs and missiles used in combat. This order was met with incredulousness and unprintable comments by Australian combat troops, especially combat veterans of the many wars and peacekeeping operations Australia has been involved in.
    ***

    [head desk]

    1. Gilmore

      If i were in the miltiary i’d take the piss and put little unicorns and flowers and hearts and rainbows on our tanks and unit insignia

      1. Negroni Please

        I understand there are many many Bronies among the US armed forces. You might have more support than you’d think in that endeavor

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          When it comes to Bronies, maybe DADT is the way to go. At least for a generation or two.

        2. Juvenile Bluster

          As a, humm, lapsed Brony, I can tell you there are many in the military.

          There’s even a portion of a documentary about the fandom dedicated to ones in the military.

    2. KSuellington

      Wow, you are now bringing us derp from the future!

      1. Noticed that too. He has the Derp-vision.

      2. Derpetologist

        You’re not thinking derp-th dimensionally, Marty!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUcNM7OsdsY

  44. Juvenile Bluster

    Basically all of North, Central and South America are telling Maduro to go fuck himself after yesterday’s “election”

    As the international community piled on Venezuela Monday, the White House rolled out new sanctions and more than a dozen countries rejected Sunday’s “sham” presidential elections that handed Nicolás Maduro a new six-year term.

    On Monday, President Donald Trump signed an order limiting Venezuela’s ability to liquidate assets “at fire sale prices,” the Associated Press reported.

    The move might be aimed at keeping Venezuela from selling off its stake in the CITGO oil company, which operates in the United States.

    Closer to Caracas, the 14 nations that are part of the “Lima Group” said they would be limiting diplomatic ties with Venezuela and would study blocking all future loans to the nation.

    The moves come less than 24 hours after Maduro won a new term in a controversial vote that his rivals and critics say was marred by fraud.

    In a statement, the Lima Group, said it did not recognize the “legitimacy” of Sunday’s vote and said its members had agreed to “reduce the level of diplomatic relations with Venezuela” and recall their ambassadors for consultation.

    The Lima Group is comprised of Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Mexico, Panama, Paraguay, Peru and Saint Lucia. And the bloc has been a vocal opponent of what it sees as growing authoritarianism in Venezuela.

    But hey, Venezuela does have Cuba, China and Russia on their side. For some reason.

    1. invisible finger

      China and Russia can buy stolen American property at fire sale prices. And no refugees.

    2. Gadfly

      My biggest question is why is Canada in the “Lima Group”? I was reading that list and thinking “one of this things is not like the others”.

  45. Count Potato

    https://twitter.com/ZMABSO/status/997983789807751168

    “An over zealous shop worker has put labels intended for knives on other kitchen utensils and those who decry the “nanny state” think they are scoring some sort of victory by pointing it out!”

    Because maybe there shouldn’t be any knife laws in the first place?

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      “Look, we *like it* when the state is doing this to us. Some of us aren’t even clenching our sphincters any more.”

    2. AlmightyJB

      TW Trigglypuff gif.

      1. Chipwooder

        The continuous wave of arm flab is oddly mesmerizing

        1. AlmightyJB

          You can visualize that when trying not to “finish” too fast.

          1. Suthenboy

            Visualizing that for half a second and I am finished. Not in the good way.

        2. Raven Nation

          +1 Homer on a treadmill

  46. AlmightyJB

    According to this story one of the the victims of that piece of shit bitch punk told her mom that he told her he was going to kill her 2 weeks before the shooting.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/05/21/report-teen-victim-warned-family-school-shooter-threatened-kill/

    1. invisible finger

      And her mom works for the FBI?

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Just FYI the mom is being accused of lying. She wasn’t really involved in her daughter’s life, and had no way of knowing the things she’s claiming.

      1. AlmightyJB

        That’s sad.

      2. commodious spittoon

        The fucking fuck? Who lies about something like that?

        1. Gilmore

          estranged parents whose kid just got killed

        2. Sean

          Attention whores.

  47. The Late P Brooks

    symbols that were not in line with Australian army values and the ethical armed forces Australia sought to build and sustain.

    Oh.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Why do the cutest animals in that country all have chlamydia?

    2. They should just put pictures of Australian nature on the insignias since it’s always trying to kill humans.

  48. RAHeinlein

    A WSJ f/u regarding one less female CEO (I believe another Glib linked original story linked last week).

    Long before she arrived in the corner office, the company had been trying to revive sluggish soup sales and communicate a greater concern for healthy eating by messing with the chicken noodle recipe. She continued to tinker both with recipes and with the company’s product mix. And not unlike plenty of her male counterparts—as well as Times editors— she may have focused too much on issues unrelated to product quality and value.

    In 2015 the Times noted:

    Ms. Morrison speaks more candidly than most of her peers about the impact that changing consumer preferences and demographics are having on Campbell and other large food companies, which she described as “seismic shifts.”

    “There are 80 million millennials now, and they’re shopping and thinking differently about food and in a way that is influential,” she said.

    She said changes in the family are also challenging food companies. “Families now are multicultural, multigenerational, single-parent, same-sex, mixed and traditional,” Ms. Morrison said.

    She also noted that the numbers of middle-class consumers, who powered sales for so long, were shrinking. “Food companies largely serve the mainstream, but there’s a shrinking middle class in the U.S., a widening chasm between the haves and have-nots,” Ms. Morrison said.

    Was she selling soup or running for office?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/gender-campbells-soup-and-the-american-consumer-1526926583

    1. Gilmore

      “”the company had been trying to revive sluggish soup sales and communicate a greater concern for healthy eating by messing with the chicken noodle recipe””

      lol

      indra nooyi (pepsico CEO), one of the other high-profile female executives in the CPG space… one of the first things she did when taking over was slapping this little green label on a bunch of Frito-Lay (and other brands) snack foods claiming it was “all natural” or “heart healthy” or some shit. I can’t remember exactly. it was around 10 years ago.

      but she’s been basically recycling (pun) variations of the idea through the company on a nonstop basis. no change to the actual products, just marketing “WE ARE GOOD FOR PLANET” bullshit

      https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/14/frito-lay-green-companies-environment_n_1000600.html

    2. Gadfly

      “Food companies largely serve the mainstream, but there’s a shrinking middle class in the U.S., a widening chasm between the haves and have-nots,” Ms. Morrison said.

      OK, so it’s been a while since my budget put me in the technically “poor” category, but surely Campbell’s canned soup is targeted to both the middle and the lower classes, right? I wouldn’t think a canned food company would have a problem with a shrinking middle class unless most of those people leaving it were moving on up and demanding the fresh, expensive stuff with a correspondingly short shelf life.

      1. Gilmore

        when i was a consumer-goods industry analyst, her complaint was something we wrote about all the time.

        its more subtle than her blah blah middle class point. its more like this:

        it used to be you had “premium” brands, mass-market brands, and discount/budget brands (generics, private label, store-brand, etc)”

        A 3 tier structure. the largest used to be the middle and it was also the most profitable. It was a product you sold to everyone across economic spectrums.

        since the late 1990s, all the growth has been on the high-end and the low end (e.g. banana republic + walmart boom, while “Levis” + sears loses cachet; starbucks grows, while Folgers shrinks; )

        The middle, mass-market gets squeezed out and doesn’t compete well in either premium or budget. This isn’t because of a shrinking middle-class, its because people’s habits/tastes/behaviors are changing.

        from the canned food company POV, they are losing lots of share to tetrapacked or otherwise differently-packaged foods that *appear* or are marketed as ‘fresher’. they may not actually be, but its a key selling point. “Canned” simply has a limited ability to present itself as premium.

        another factor is, ‘who are the growth consumers’? many are hispanic households. they have lots of kids and eat at home. but they have strong loyalty to brands with specific latino heritage.

        another is ’empty nesters’; retirees. and they, perhaps surprisingly, are frequently big on ‘experimenting’ w/ food now that they’re only cooking/eating for themselves. they get excited by variety rather than sticking to the same old thing.

        and more. i really know too much about this super-boring topic. but it was sort of my life for a while.

    3. Suthenboy

      I have at least 6 mo worth of food, mostly in cans. CNS is one of the mainstays, but who eats that shit right out of the can? I also have canned chicken meat and pasta that I supplement the canned soup with. The cans are just the stock that I add stuff to. We dont eat it often but occasionally so I can rotate the inventory.
      I think what we are seeing here is the incompetence of modern universities, or maybe I am unaware. Does anyone really buy stuff because it has a watermelony label on it?
      Make good soup. It will sell.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        It’s not that bad with with a few drops of hot sauce in it.

        1. Suthenboy

          Hot sauce, extra chicken, extra noodles = pretty good.
          Tomato soup + hot sauce = pretty good
          Split pea soup + a little chopped onion + freeze dried bacon = really good
          Cream of mushroom = good

          If we ever get stranded by a hurricane, flood or zombie apocalypse the wife and I will eat well for a while. Then we will probably have to resort to eating our neighbors.

          1. Spudalicious

            I have plenty of guns, food, booze and ammo, and I know where the Mormons live.

      2. Rhywun

        I just dump extra salt in to replace the salt that all these companies removed due to bogus concerns about salt.

  49. Tundra

    Robert Shibley (FIRE) now at Instapundit!

    Should help them get more attention.

  50. Rufus the Monocled

    Where is everyone?

    1. Florida Man

      I’m at work.

    1. Gilmore

      *contests! @#()$*@()

      1. commodious spittoon

        Speaking of content…

          1. Rhywun

            Hard LOL

    2. Winston

      You youed the linked…

      1. Tundra

        Nope that’s a SF. Had he replied to the wrong comment, that’s a Gilmore.

        1. Winston

          Dammit, my glib dictionary is faulty…

          1. Tundra

            Wait until you learn about a ‘Winston’.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Is it anything like a Rusty Trombone?

          3. Winston

            Let me guess: something about maternal behavior?

          4. Brochettaward

            City school districts are taking notice. The four day-week is now beating a path to urban districts, which are facing their own crippling budget shortfalls and teacher retention challenges and are ready to try new solutions to solve growing problems.

            1. In some “urban” areas, school isn’t even remotely about the education. It doubles as day care to keep them off the streets…
            2. A means for Democrats to funnel money to union members. Basically, this applies to nearly all urban areas.

          5. Brochettaward

            That’s how you Gilmore, son.

            Also, I fucked your mother.

          6. Sean

            You are a remarkably good sport about it. Much like…

  51. Gilmore

    <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=Brvy4BbK2ZQ&quot;.The oldest song in the world

    spoiler: it sucks. It clearly needs a pumping disco beat behind it.

    1. Gilmore

      I’m on a roll.

      did i mention its Mr T’s birthday? Its Mr T’s birthday

      1. commodious spittoon

        Your linkfu is certainly pitiful.

          1. Count Potato

            Is it about a hooker? Because that would make sense.

    2. Suthenboy

      Silliness. Shepards in the field playing flutes to pass the time came up with every tune there is tens of thousands of years ago. Everything we know as music today are just covers for that stuff. I cant remember what classic musician admitted that all of his stuff was stolen from shepards but he said he would just go hang out around those guys and listen to their stuff for material.

      1. Gilmore

        (wanders into the mountains of Turkmenistan to learn the secrets of the ancient sheep herders from whom all of history’s music has been stolen)

        (sees sheepherder on crest of hill, silently sits and waits for him to pass)

        (sheepherder approaches, and already i can hear his voice)

        (the full tune emerges in all its glory)

        “Hey now, you’re an all-star, get your game on…”

      2. Raven Nation

        This completely denies the song-writing ability of the natives of the planet Krikkit.

        1. Suthenboy

          Y’all are killing me. I just overstuffed myself with steak and potatoes and it nearly just came out of my nose.

          1. Raven Nation

            “Her laughter seemed to discharge something in the atmosphere. From somewhere at the back of the crowd a single voice started to sing a tune that would have enabled Paul McCartney, had he written it, to buy the world.”

  52. Brochettaward

    High school sweethearts Kaylee Suders, 18, and Carter Brown, 19, had lifetime plans together: graduations, wedding, kids, and retirement. Their most immediate plan was to attend Suders‘s prom and have an amazing time dancing the night away. Sadly, none of those plans will become reality. Carter died just a few weeks before prom night in a car crash. In light of the tragedy, Carter’s dad, Robert Brown, stepped in to make sure Suders had a magical prom night…

    After Carter’s death, Suders had put off prom for good. She says the idea of attending the event without her boyfriend by her side was too sad to handle.

    “I didn’t want to go anymore and when Robert said he already talked to the school about it, I realized how much he wanted to make me happy so I knew I had to go! He made prom so much fun,” the teen says.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/son-dies-fatal-car-crash-dad-takes-late-sons-girlfriend-prom-204711400.html

    I’ll bet he wanted to make her happy.

    1. Brochettaward

      If I die, I expect any women I’m with to go to a nunnery. Your life is just as over as mine. And fuck any relative who wants to move in.

      1. Winston

        Considering the old-school slang use of nunnery…

    2. Rhywun

      That’s not creepy in any way.

    3. Mojeaux

      Aw, I think it was sweet.

    4. Spudalicious

      You know he hit that.

  53. Derpetologist

    Massachusetts car crash leaves 4 teenagers dead
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/20/massachusetts-car-crash-leaves-4-teenagers-dead.html

    It’s time for common sense car control!

    Am I doing it right?

  54. Hyperion

    OK, so I don’t really know what is going on with this, but this one drew my immediate attention at one of the local stores, because I’ve never seen it before. So what is going on here? Are Sierra Nevada buying into the German market? This beer is really good, really good. I highly recommend this if you like heffe type beers.

    Weihenstephaner Braupakt Sierra Nevada Hefe

    1. Hyperion
      1. Hyperion

        Well, shit.

        Beer?

        1. Rhywun

          I love a Weißbier. I’ll look out for this.

        2. DEG

          I’ve had it, it’s not bad.

    2. Rhywun

      I don’t know what’s going on with that link.

      1. Rhywun

        Or the other one.

      2. Hyperion

        IT’S FUCKING FUBAR, THAT’S WHAT! GODDAMN EDIT FEATURE!

        1. Hyperion

          I wouldn’t have tried so hard, but it’s good beer and I wanted everyone to know. I’m going back to playing POE 2, that was going better.

  55. Count Potato

    Bought a Sony TV. Called to ask where the manual was. They told me they no longer include them as part of a “green” policy.

    So I learned two things.

    Sony can’t understand that paper is literally made from trees.

    It’s very difficult to pronounce “environmental” with an Indian accent.

    1. Hyperion

      I saw a 70″ Bravia 4K HDR smart TV at Best Buy for $1100. I need to look into that, I just don’t know what the hz is, my current TV is 240 and I don’t think I can tolerate anything less than that now.

      I really want to buy one of the new ASUS 4K HDR computer monitors with Gsync, high refresh, and quantum dot tech. But I can’t, because they’ve been delayed by a year. What you find out when you finally have enough money to buy things you want, is that you can’t buy them because life sucks and then you die.

      1. Rhywun

        Yeah, the Xbox I referenced below is targeted to TVs way fancier than mine. There’s a page where it analyzes your TV for features and mine was like “unsupported” for all of them. Well, hopefully the thing will last longer than my current TV.

      2. spqr2008

        Hyp, AFAIK, the current generation of 4k TVs is not being made with 240hz capable panels, because they cost too much to make.

    2. Florida Man

      Paper is renewable, rare earth metals are not.

      1. Hyperion

        That’s what asteroid mining is for. Hey, can we grow trees on asteroids?

        1. Florida Man

          We won’t know unless we try!

          1. Hyperion

            ELON! Launch the asteroid tree! The gubmint is paying for it!

        2. Old Man With Candy

          I grew hair on hemorrhoids, does that count?

          1. Spudalicious

            Given the size of your hemorrhoids, that hair would qualify as trees.

    3. Rhywun

      I bought an Xbox last week and that didn’t come with a manual either. Normally I just download PDF’s because a lot of stuff doesn’t come with manuals any more. Except there isn’t one for Xbox. Just kind of winging it.

  56. DiegoF

    I do hope any people who like to sleep with people of their same sex and want to be good Catholics get full recognition of being decent human beings who don’t deserve the scorn of any Catholic.

    I do hope that they get their heads out of their asses and determine whether they believe what they are doing is gravely wrong, and then accordingly either try with all their might to avoid it (which last time I checked is not compatible with living with someone you’ve slept with), or show Catholicism and more importantly themselves a modicum of respect and practice a religion whose teachings align with their actual beliefs. A church is not a country club. It is [current year]. If you really feel the need to not sleep in every Sunday, you can find all sorts of denominations so vacuous of doctrine that your beliefs are sure to be compatible. And you can function socially perfectly well without any religious practice at all. I can’t even.

    I’m not sure I’m all about the Petrine Doctrine but it does seem to allow for the Bishop of Rome to uncover new revelations of God

    It does not.

    1. Hyperion

      I ain’t even gonna go off on how silly I think it is is that we need a dude in a funny hat to tell us what is ok for humans to do, or not. I ain’t going there. It was a really nice day out here today and the sun was shining.

      1. DiegoF

        Well, when a bunch of men in funny hats, who do and have always insisted that they infallibly reveal certain moral and metaphysical truths, do so and additionally point to the rather plain reading of a very old book, declare that it is forbidden to engage in an activity that you happen to enjoy…people with some semblance of self-respect say to themselves (if indeed it does so seem to them), “Hmm, that seems silly,” and proceed on their merry way. Pathetic, depraved people (the kind who are toxic to a free society) apparently care about these people’s moral approval (even in the absence of any imposition of force upon them) of their private activities, and whine that these people are guilty of “hate” and lack of “acceptance,” and poison our society by getting people to regard maxims like “love the sinner, hate the sin” as not perfectly sensible and indeed virtuous and generous, but ridiculous and hypocritical. That is when they try to recruit society into a cleansing of this type of wrongthink, because the men in funny hats will not tell them to go forth and fuck. They are toxic. They’re not the new Religious Right in their influence by a longshot (and indeed I have some sympathy for those whose current sickness came from abuse at the hands of the Religious Right’s reign of terror), but they wish to be and will be if we are not vigilant.

    2. Florida Man

      I do find it odd when people remain in a faith that they don’t agree with. I guess it’s hard to break with tradition.

      1. Raven Nation

        I remember seeing a documentary about Mormons years ago. Quite a few Mormons told the interviewers that they believed very few of the church’s teachings but they wouldn’t leave because all their friends & family were in the church. Again, some time ago so I don’t know if that’s still the case.

        1. Florida Man

          I think for some it’s because they don’t want to upset/disappoint their families. I’m lucky that my family is very live and let live. We all do what we want.

          1. DiegoF

            Yes, and for gays and their disapproving families you can imagine how intense the social thing can be. I don’t want to be too glib about it, don’t want to be dismissive of their pain. But, as I’ve said before, the unfortunate fact is that these are private matters. When it comes right down to it, it’s just a very intense, hard to extract yourself case of moral disagreement about traditional taboos between parents and children. But the fact remains that it is ridiculous to declare that people with moral codes that include taboos are guilty of “hatred” or hateful lack of “acceptance” against those who happen to enjoy engaging in those activities, and at the end of the day the latter do not really enjoy my sympathy–especially if they try to recruit society into taking sides in the matter. And the moral abhorrence of cake laws, conversion therapy bans, etc. to a free people hardly need be stated.

    3. Gilmore

      I had a funny exchange with a guy trying to explain Elizabeth Bruenig’s “Catholic Socialism” to me.

      He basically was like “yeah man, if you read parts of Catholic social teaching in a very narrow way, its like, totally the same as Marxism at its core.” blah blah blah. “its totally consistent with catholic teaching to be socialist!”

      I let him go on for like 10 mins and then said,

      “ok. What about the part how the Pope has explicitly said, “Socialism is evil and wrong and the Church opposes it”. and have repeated this over and over again for 150 years

      He was like, “well, i think there’s room for interpretation”. I then said, “Yeah, ok buddy, you let me know when you find that “I Can Ignore What The Pope Says”-clause in the secret-handbook-of-catholicism” and that was the end of the conversation

      1. DiegoF

        Libertarianism has a few things in common with Marxism, for that matter. This is just another variation of “all religions teach the same thing” because someone has found a proclaimed “core.” Whoever else ever imagined the supposed “periphery” to be dispensable is left unsaid. It’s all very ridiculous and this is how you know you’re dealing either with a generally vacuous person or a person who simply hasn’t applied any brainpower to those particular topics. I can’t stand all the self-serving lack of clarity of thought all over the fucking place–not that this matter thereby differs from others on that count!

    4. DiegoF

      Oh I see you people already talked about this a bit. Late to the party, how embarrassing.

  57. Derpetologist

    Time to shut down the Air Marshall program?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F02OLNKaqE

  58. Spudalicious

    Oh those wacky Brits.

    “Mr Kellam said: “They saw Johnson with the bag of potatoes and in women’s clothing.

    “It may be this that led officers to believe that he was intoxicated.””

    http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/16238593.Man_wears_bra_and_fills_hotel_bath_full_of_potatoes_during___39_bizarre__39__binge/

    1. Hyperion

      And now we see why the Brits need common sense internet pr0n regulation.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      Potatoes. One of your people.

      1. Brochettaward

        Why are they using his name in the headline like we’re supposed to know who he is?

    3. Trigger Hippie

      I’m increasingly convinced that British civilization will degenerate into a dadaist reinterpretation of a years long Monty Python episode before its demise. Kinda fun to watch though.

  59. Raven Nation

    One more item for those who still think New Zealand is a proto-libertarian place: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12056200

    (It involves indecent exposure and a ruler).

    1. Suthenboy

      Emperor has no clothes?

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Who calibrated her ruler?

  60. Gilmore

    Soccer Fight

    https://twitter.com/i/moments/998662763076640768

    naturally, they both end up on the ground, writhing in agony

    1. Florida Man

      I like that the slapee fell to the ground.

    2. Rhywun

      Nice. Zlatan is a pig.

  61. DiegoF

    You know, my opinion from square one was something like this but as usual progs find a way to fuck it up.

    I never liked the business of calling morally depraved humans “animals.” It is degrading to both (presumably lower) animals and to them, people who indeed still must be treated as human beings by society–for our sake, not theirs. (And this is coming from a very enthusiastic death penalty supporter who thinks it should be expanded in scope.) Plus it’s a cop out. Same thing with saying Hitler and the Nazis were demons made flesh or something. No, they were humans like us. We put illegitimate and comforting space between ourselves and our fellow humans who embarrass the species by reminding us what we are capable of, but we are better off facing up to it and learning a lesson and being vigilant.

    But this shit is just stupid.

    Lost in all this debate over whether Trump called ALL immigrants “animals” or JUST those with criminal records or alleged to be gangmembers is this: **It doesn’t matter.** Either way he has successfully normalized the dehumanization of people with criminal justice involvement.

    Ahem, I think it matters a whole fucking lot whether Trump called all immigrants (including, presumably, his late mother) subhuman, or whether he called people that who have been terrorizing Latino communities for decades. I can be Miss Prissypants all i want, but this “animals” thing is a perfectly common figure of speech. I don’t think I’ve ever been in the same room as a black or Latina lady when she doesn’t call someone on the news that for nothing so much as stealing a purse. I am shocked that a Brooklyn public defender–and God bless him for it–doesn’t have a better handle on the core sentiments, behind all the messaging, of the communities he serves. You can fish for all the woke retweets you want. But at the end of the day, none of us want to be lumped in with criminals.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      MS-13 are worse than animals but animals will do. Besides, he’s not talking about arresting them and having them gassed, he’s talking about deportation.

    2. commodious spittoon

      These tiresome shitheads just can’t let it go. You stupid chumps got burned on bad reporting. You looked like mendacious bitches. You were wrong. Get over it.

      1. DiegoF

        You’re right and I don’t know why I keep getting burned by trying to make some inherent coherence out of people’s rhetorical moves. It’s just a transparent backpedal, meant only to look reasonable at the depth of examination of someone (including themselves) who very much wants to believe it is and move on.

        1. Florida Man

          There is something about the way Trump speaks that grates on my nerves, so I almost never watch video of him talking. I have no idea how people that hate him can hang on every single word.

          1. I had that with Obama. I don’t think I listened or watched a single one of his “eloquent” speeches at any time in 8 years – just read the quotes after the fact.

          2. Florida Man

            #MeToo with Obama. Maybe I just don’t like listening to presidents.

          3. Just Say’n

            Yes. I cringe when I watch him speak. He’s the only speaker I’ve ever seen rely solely on platitudes and audience participation (“what else?”) at such a high level and be successful.

          4. DiegoF

            What I can’t stand is when bands hold the mic to the audience so they can sing the hook themselves. It’s gotten so out of control, they’re expected to do half the song sometimes. Shit starts looking like latter day Harry Caray where he’d just stick the mic out the box and start waving it around, bringing it up to his mouth a few times for formality’s sake. Bands, i know you work hard and deserve a breather but don’t do it like this! That’s no way to peak with your most beloved songs! I paid good money so you can entertain me; this ain’t like apple picking on Long Island where I pay for the privilege of doing the work.

      2. Spudalicious

        “mendacious bitches”

        *golf clap*

    3. Rhywun

      Meh. It’s just a figure of speech.

      1. Rhywun

        As you noted, had I read further…

        But to clarify, IMHO it is not intended to indicate that the speaker wants to treat such people as “less than human”.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          What did Lakoff ever do to you?

    4. Don Escaped Texas

      No reasonable person would traffic in such language. Trump’s ad hominem attacks are immature at best and a sign of clinical narcissism at best. The man is unpresidential and a national embarrassment. That such an ungrounded and unhinged creature can muster an electoral majority of truckdrivers is the single most unnerving fact of my adult life.

      That doesn’t make me a Democrat; that doesn’t mean that Hillary was a good candidate; that doesn’t mean that some of his mindless, uninformed, careless, bombastic, lowbrow, selfish, and deranged acts aren’t accidentally good for the country in the way that a broken clock is right twice a day.

      The MSM’s unending relish for clashes in cults of personality is exactly what is wrong with this country. I will stipulate to anyone on this site as to what their three most important national topics are and how the White House should be managing them, and we will see that the national discourse has zero principled engagement on the topic that will effect meaningful and durable change in the proper direction.

      It is a sad day that we have reached where the right things aren’t being done by the right man (whoever that should have been) for the right reason.

      1. Rhywun

        The man is unpresidential

        What is “presidential”, then?

        1. Florida Man

          You know it when you get a tingle up your leg.

          1. commodious spittoon

            Presidential means having your pants creased just so.

          2. DiegoF

            How presidential did Van Buren look? And he was probably the best one (apart from WHH).

          3. Just Say’n

            No way man. Grover Cleveland.

          4. DiegoF

            Cleveland created the ICC, was too cozy with bankers which resulted in a turn toward more foreign aggression in Latin America, and used Federal troops against Americans. These were important turning points in the long term patterns. Van Buren did an enormous amount to turn back the threat of Federal internal works, tariffs, Federal involvement in banking, and so forth. He was a much better manifestation of what was good about Jackson than Jackson ever was. He kept his hands completely off a panic, held a very strong line on damn near all aspects of classical liberalism, and set the government going firmly in a noninterventionist direction where it had been slipping the other way during the era of good feelings. The last few decades before the civil war were as close to pure classical liberalism as the country ever got (if you weren’t an Indian or a slave, of course. Big caveat.)

            Cleveland has a good case to be made too, and I’m being rushed right now. Like Jefferson he’d have left a much purer legacy without his second term. I just think the abovementioned drawbacks are huge deals in their historical legacy.

          5. DiegoF

            in b4 “he wasn’t the first to use Federal troops against Americans.” Yes, of course. But he didn’t even pretend it was war; they were just there to be cops. Not nearly as big a deal as Lincoln’s, but it is also an important Rubicon. I will not excuse him for crossing it.

          6. Bobarian LMD

            I get a tingle up my leg if I sit on the crapper too long.

          7. DiegoF

            Try squatting like the Asiatics.

        2. Just Say’n

          That’s a fair question, but let’s be honest. Writing stream of conscious Twitter ramblings, singling out business for ridicule (which has moved financial markets in the past, and using heated rhetoric toward Mexican illegal immigrants and Muslims during the campaign is not presidential. I don’t mean this as a defense of previous presidents who have done similar things in the past, but Trump is so blatant and obvious in his rhetoric. It’s galling and acceptable in polite society.

          All this, of course, is a big part of his appeal, but also a big part of people’s disgust with him.

          1. RAHeinlein

            Being a woman and all, I’m just QUAKING for Don Escaped Texas to pull out that MBA. I believe today he confirmed he is an honest-to-goodness Mechanical Engineer.

            Poor me, my son is a truck driver!

          2. Florida Man

            …did I miss something from earlier?

          3. Playa Manhattan

            I missed something.

            Popcorn time.

          4. Florida Man

            Do you have non-dairy butter like product?

          5. Playa Manhattan

            Oh, previous comment.

            I’m going to get my salty ham tears bucket.

          6. Playa Manhattan

            Yeah, I keep packet of diacetyl in my pocket at all times. It’s right next to the emergency cash.

          7. RAHeinlein

            All the non-dairy butter-like products no longer have diacetyl (yuck).

            Regarding, other question: 10 AM thread and numerous previous posts where “Don” proclaims he is an engineer (apparently, QED).

          8. Playa Manhattan

            Not a fan of Chardonnay?

          9. Rhywun

            No offense, but “polite society” can kiss my ass. It’s a large part of what is wrong with the world.

          10. Florida Man

            Here is my beef. When I am at work, I don’t use profane language, I dress appropriately and try to conduct myself in a way that reflects well on my company. I don’t think it is too much to ask for someone who is representing a country to act with a little class. I don’t mean rolling over for the MSM, but you can put them in their place in a dignified manner.

          11. Rhywun

            I just don’t care. The manner in which he “represents my country” doesn’t impact me in the least, it is so remote. I am the same way at work – because that DOES impact me.

          12. Florida Man

            I don’t have any investment in President Trump, I just get annoyed with him in the same way I get annoyed with panhandling bums. “I’m going to work, you go to work”

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        As much as I dislike Trump, I think his Twitter attacks are more calculated than most people think. He cultivates a particular image for a reason. I may not like it, but there are many who do and he uses that to his advantage. He also has a negotiating style that is built around bluster. That’s always been the case, he’s just applied it to politics in the social media era.

        The country does not appear to desire a principled leader in the vein of Rand Paul et al

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Speaking of Trump’s negotiating style, if it weren’t for the threat of nuclear annihilation, I would experience great schadenfreude from the fact that he got completely punked by Kim Jong-un.

          How do you say, “Art of the Deal” in Korean?

          1. quincy

            Kim Cheese?

          2. Me so horny?

          3. egould310

            Ching chong ling long?

      3. grrizzly

        That such an ungrounded and unhinged creature can muster an electoral majority of truckdrivers is the single most unnerving fact of my adult life.

        ***Sigh***
        I would have preferred a real life orangutan to any Democrat in the White House. What I find appalling is that so many supposedly decent people voted for the racist, sexist, anti-intellectual criminal organization masquerading as a political party. The Democratic Party, the intelligence community, the media and a large part of the Republican establishment are complicit in smashing to pieces the rule of law in this country by rigging the presidential elections in 2016, spying for years on domestic political opponents and still continuing to this day with the coup d’état to overthrow the democratically elected US government. Trump, in a huge part of who he is, made the US ruling class reveal how morally bankrupt and corrupt it is. Trump might even succeed in punishing some of them–even if it’s only because they assaulted him first. That he uses the kind of language that no member of the over-educated, upper-middle class (I know–that’s my people) would use in public doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

    1. DiegoF

      Where is Robert Culp? I don’t even see him in the frame.

      1. C. Anacreon

        +1 fake tennis pro

    2. Too bad that due to the epidemic of super automatic assault child murder machines with high capacity assault clips all the children in that picture were gunned down like dogs.

    3. straffinrun

      Stealing Biden’s moves.

      1. DiegoF

        With typical incompetence. The glass is way too high.

    4. Florida Man

      what is with all the “sensitive information” stuff?

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Gemma, and the Last one, naughty as Fuck!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Now we’re talkin’

  62. straffinrun

    If you have benefited from servitude, you’re free and now American society and whiteness among denied people not permitted to exercise autonomy. Subjected to horrid the centrality of the group dynamic the basis of group identity. This ain’t Beyonce the staid and retried phrase and quantifiable means of substance. Manifested with lethality.

    I can speaks da Michael Dyson.

    1. Just Say’n

      Throwing big words together in broad and declarative platitudes is the defining feature of modern day progressivism

      1. straffinrun

        “The mean, mad white comment was not predicated on my historical excavation of your past. It’s based up the evident vitriol with which you speak and the denial of a sense of equanimity among combatants in an argument.”

        The guy is trying his best to resurrect the minstrel show.

  63. Trigger Hippie

    Probably already covered earlier but screw it.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/05/21/605012795/supreme-court-decision-delivers-blow-to-workers-rights

    As an individual you agree to deal with an employer on an individual basis under clearly defined guidelines prior to employment, yes? And thus must deal with employment disputes under the said individual basis. The horror.

    Many vapors and a mention of ‘the privatization of our legal system’. Good stuff.

    1. Rhywun

      It’s one of those rulings I can only judge by who’s lined up against it.

      1. DiegoF

        I wonder what the nature of the 1920s courts’ hostility to arbitration was.

      2. Trigger Hippie

        Basically from what I gathered is that the criticism stemming from this ruling is that it’s presumably more expensive to sue your employer for violating federal employment laws, on average, than whatever possible compensation you would receive in turn for winning. I have no idea if that’s true but the tone of the article suggests that outside of class action lawsuits can shed light on these abuses. Yep. No such thing as social media, traditional media, activist groups, pro bono lawyers eager to bring down a company, federal agencies eager to do the same, ect, ect. No other recourse whatsoever.

      3. Bobarian LMD

        The article seems to ignore that arbitration is meant reduce the legal pole-vaulting that individuals face and reduce the risk to the business being destroyed by the class action settlement.

      4. Rufus the Monocled

        That’s how I do it. Trudeau for it? That means it sucks. Obama used a pen? Erase it.

        1. DiegoF

          Obama is an idiot if he used those bullshit erasable pens. I didn’t even know they still had those; I thought they were left back in the ’80s.

          1. Rhywun

            EraserMates – OMG

    2. Brochettaward

      What bothers me most about is that these articles on court decisions are based entirely on the result. Nothing is said about pesky things like the actual laws in question.

  64. quincy

    By the way, how long can you forget about paying your taxes before you get deported, asking for my… cat.

    1. Trigger Hippie

      What happened to the snake?!

      1. quincy

        I flipped the switch, and it fell off.

        1. Trigger Hippie

          *pours one for the fallen serpent*

    2. Florida Man

      I have a friend that forgot to pay her taxes and then out of fear didn’t file for like 7 years. The saddest part is that she had a minimum wage job so was almost guaranteed a rebate. Anyways she ended up own a large amount and has been paying it back for the last 8 years.

    3. Hyperion

      So, let me see here… Let me think, what’s the single most important thing to the US government? That you pay your taxes. There isn’t anything even close to it that the US government cares about. So how do you forget to do that before you get deported?

      1. Make sure you really want deported.

      2. Don’t pay taxes.

      3. Make sure you never want to come back again.

      4. Done deal.

      1. quincy

        We’re talking $700. The Republic will survive. Also I don’t really feel like it.

        1. That’s the king’s $700 and we DO NOT tolerate lese majeste in this country.

          1. quincy

            Whatever. I’ll get around to it.

        2. Hyperion

          I know that, but unfortunately, the government doesn’t care.

      2. For real. Better to kill someone than miss your taxes. That and counterfeiting.

        True story: when I was a senior in high school, some jock stabbed someone to death at a party. A nerdy kid was caught trying to photocopy 20 dollar bills (not very good ones either).

        Last I heard about it before graduation was that murder kid got off with a 3rd degree manslaughter or something with 6 months in jail and 3 years probation. Counterfeit kid was facing 50 years and plead down to 7 plus lifetime probation and no access to computers. Tells you where the government’s priorities lie.

        1. Hyperion

          “For real. Better to kill someone than miss your taxes.”

          Exactly this.

    4. quincy

      Sheesh, I’m fishing out the stubs from my junk mail basket, and getting busy with my patriotic duty. Woohoo!

      1. quincy

        Boring!

    5. Playa Manhattan

      Are you trying to get deported?

      1. quincy

        Not really.

  65. Hyperion

    We didn’t mean anyone!

    Nope, sorry shitheads, you said anyone can use the restroom for any reason, without being a customer in any way. You said that not doing so is racist. So like in that bed that you made, motherfuckers, or you’re racist.

    1. Florida Man

      HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA *deep breath* HA HA HA HA…

    2. trshmnstr

      They done fucked up

    3. Rhywun

      LOL so stoopid of them I can’t even. They could have given the gentlemen that started this a couple coupons and a sorry not sorry but instead they’re wrecking the company.

      1. Florida Man

        Its like when children think they’ve come up with a radical new idea of getting rid of money and everyone just gets what they need for free! It’s so simple. Why hasn’t anyone thought of this before?

      2. DiegoF

        As far as I am concerned they wrecked the company the day they took the titties off the mermaid.

      3. Gustave Lytton

        They should have given them the cold shoulder. Any token is as good as admitting to wrongdoing.

        But that wasn’t going to happen. Not only did Howard Schultz shove his employees under the bus, he backed it up, and ran over them again when he accused the store manager of exhibiting “unconscious bias” and “profiling”.

    4. DiegoF

      Starbucks are going to start looking like Automats

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I don’t know if you saw last night but I responded to you.

        Tracking you guys is impossible. When the threads die, they die.

        AlexCT is another I’ve been looking for.

        1. DiegoF

          I am looking for Titor.

          Are you talking about when you answered who Crusty was? I did see that.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            And the Royalty being tax dollar sucking bacteria or something.

          2. DiegoF

            Yes. And I did see the earlier thread. Basically Trudeau gave $80 000 out of the budget to a charity and said it was a “wedding present.” It’s not like it went to buying them a dinette set or anything. Also it seemed like a good charity, and was not even one that the Royal Family ran or anything. Of course Trudeau has no business taking your money, even a fraction of a penny as it is here, and giving it to any charity. But this is by far the least useless kind of thing governments do with illegitimate taxation. It wasn’t even like most “charities” that get government aid, where the “charities” then turn around and use the money to influence policy and elections. (Obama was unusually brazen in this, but he most certainly did not invent it.) It was a real charity. And again, since the royals were not even affiliated, I don’t think this petty abuse (again, far better than the overwhelming majority of what the government actually concerns itself with as it happens) even qualifies as parasitism.

            Anyway, just this bit on the very narrow question at hand. I think Titor would be an interesting person to ask. Most former commies tend to make rather radical libertarians, but Titor is unexpectedly different. He’s practically a neocon by libertarian standards (real libertarian standards that is; he’s well within them). And at the same time the Burke is rather strong with him, as it is with me. He doesn’t even like the Maple Leaf Flag; he thinks you should’ve stuck with the Red Ensign.

    5. Playa Manhattan

      “Starbucks Says Drug Use, Sleeping Unacceptable”

      Bum:
      “These aren’t drugs, these are my medications. If you challenge me, prepare to go viral. I’m live streaming on my bum phone right now. Also, racist!”

      1. Depends. Is the bum white?

        1. DiegoF

          Mine isn’t.

          1. DiegoF

            *watery-mouthed nod of approval*

            Not technically mine, but since I don’t have a two-mirror setup nearby at the moment, it’ll do.

      2. Rhywun

        I saw a bum that regularly hangs out near my office with a paper cup chatting on his cell phone one day. He looks like an aged-out gutter punk. Next time I see him I should point him in the direction of the Starbucks one block away.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          If I wasn’t busy with lots of other things, I’d short them and then organize a nationwide hobo day.

          1. DiegoF

            Hobos are not bums! Hobos are itinerant and seek to work; bums are neither. These distinctions are very important to any self-respecting hobo.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            Hobo is the best word. I use it all the time.

          3. DiegoF

            It is one of the English language’s most fun ones.

          4. egould310

            Bums sleep in their own filth in empty doorways of urban hellholes. Hobos prowl small rural towns looking to steal pies that are cooling on windowsills.

          5. Playa Manhattan

            And something about trains.

          6. DiegoF

            They don’t have to look for them; the aroma levitates their bodies nose first and gently floats them over.

          7. Raven Nation

            “Hobos are itinerant and seek to work”

            Unless they’re sundowners.

        2. Hyperion

          You should, I’m thinking about doing the same. There are a bum couple near a busy intersection about 2 miles from my house. They have been out there every day for at least a couple of years. I think they try to make it look like they are not working as a team, but I figured it out a long time ago. So I saw the guy today and he’s now wearing the best name brand clothing you can buy, expensive back pack. He looks all cleaned up now and is wearing a $200 pair of Nike tennies. He even has a fancy new walking stick, looks like stainless steel with some nice stylings on it. Didn’t look like many people were stopping for him, maybe they noticed what I did. Anyway, I think it’s about time to stop and throw a couple bucks at him and his friends and tell them that Starbucks just opened a 24/7 bum spa.

    6. Rufus the Monocled

      Imma sit back and watch SB trip all over its wokeself.

      Idiots.

  66. Playa Manhattan

    Some asshole just tried to charge his college tuition on my credit card. AMEX caught it in less than 10 seconds and called me.

    College isn’t for everyone, kids. Since nothing was stolen from me, I don’t get to find out what happens to this stupid asshole.

    1. About 5 years ago, someone tried to buy a $35,000 painting at a Swiss auction with my Mastercard. It was actually kind of funny.

    2. Urthona

      That seems a bit traceable. Like that kid probably shouldn’t be in college.

      1. straffinrun

        Sounds like he’d fit right in.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        The perfect customer: willing to do anything to pay.

    3. Lachowsky

      Get the info from AMEX and go beat the kids ass. You’d be doing the whole country a favor.

      Too many people are shielded from the consequences of their actions. If a 13 year old shoplifter got the shit kicked out if him by a store owner, he would be less likely to shop lift again.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        FAMU. It’s a little far for me.

        1. Lachowsky

          think of it as doing your part. you know, in a non-tax paying manner

    4. Rhywun

      Someone charged their cable and phone to my CC for like a year and I didn’t notice because it flew under my radar and I wasn’t paying close attention. I got some of it reversed but not all. One of those companies that I called wouldn’t tell me who was doing it, but the “funny” part is I think I know who it was. I don’t speak to that person any more for that and several other reasons.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        This wasn’t friendly fire. I haven’t been in Florida in 5 years.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          How about 18 year ago? 😉

          1. Rhywun

            Heh

          2. Playa Manhattan

            If that weren’t an impossibility, I would have paid for it. Depending on the major.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Growing?

      1. CPRM

        well, like a plant it grows when light is shined on it.

  67. Lachowsky

    https://imgur.com/xvmUNA8

    the boy finished kindergarten today. The wife and I found out the next of our progeny is a little girl. Today was a good day. Thanks glibs, for being my social media

      1. Lachowsky

        Only problem is, I’m going fucking bald. This bullshit. There is no one in my family who started losing their hair before the age of 65 or so.

        Fuck it. I just wear a hat every day. I used to have nice hair though. *sigh*

        1. You’re already married and she’s contractually obligated to stick around 😉 .

        2. Rhywun

          I have all my hair but it went white by 35. You just can’t win.

        3. egould310

          It’s the hat that is making you lose hair. Ditch the hat.

      2. Also, Lachowsky begins cleaning his shotgun in anticipation of the first boyfriends 15 years from now.

        1. Lachowsky

          My 870 shoots clean or dirty.

          Also, I have an FAL. My FAL has an adjustable gas block. What that means is that as my gun gums up, all I have to do is open up the gas block to allow more pressure to cycle the rifle.

          Them fucking Belgians knew how to engineer a rifle.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      You have him in a tie.

      Awesome.

      My parents sent me to a soccer award ceremony in a suit while everyone was dressed, you know, like it was a soccer ceremony.

      I was seven.

      I’m still scarred by it.

      Congrats.

      1. Lachowsky

        It’s a clip on, and Lachowsky jr. hated it.

        We are rural folks. We almost never dress up. He had that shirt and tie taken off as soon as we were done with pictures.

        He told his Grandma, “granny come on. will you please take my picture. I want these clothes off.”

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Congratulation Lachowsky & your clan.

    3. Just Say’n

      Congratulations

      1. Lachowsky

        You’re an actual devout catholic. From that I infer that you value culture with your libertarianism. I am doing culture that aligns with your worldview without the Catholocism. I have seen you be openly hostile to criticism of catholicism.

        I’d appreciate it you did a better job of looking at the culture of those you are critical of before making arguements against them.

        Probably poorly worded, but I bet you get the point.

        No hostility here, But one doesn’t have to be a Christian or a Catholic to practice values that you agree with.

        1. DiegoF

          Everything he said, at least on this thread, is 100% correct as far as I saw, and not at all disrespectful of anyone else. And he took some pretty brutal criticisms of his religion without chimping out.

          1. straffinrun

            True. We should be able to discuss this without going nuclear.

        2. Just Say’n

          I am openly hostile to unfair criticisms of all faiths. I am not exceptionally devout and I’m not necessarily predisposed to cultural traditionalism.

          Nonetheless, I understand your points.

          You have a beautiful family. You are a lucky man with or without hair (I understand the struggles)

          1. DiegoF

            Have you tried concealing your pate beneath an elegant tophat?

            If your eyebrow is thinning as well a monocle may be a likewise worthwhile investment. If you are a beginner you may find this a worthwhile product.

    4. DiegoF

      I didn’t like seeing Eddie go. But then, I happen to know that there’s a little Lachowsky on the way. I guess that’s the way the whole darned human comedy keeps perpetuating itself, down through the generations, westward the wagons, across the sands of time until we…

      Aw, look at me, I’m rambling again. Well, I hope you folks enjoyed yourselves. Catch you later on down the trail.

      1. Lachowsky

        I’m discreetly breeding a clan of glibertarians. With the other breeders on this site, we may at some point be able to create a class of superior people. Dare I say, a “master race”

        1. Winston

          I’m discreetly breeding a clan of glibertarians.

          How do you intend to insure your kids remain libertarians in adulthood?

          1. Lachowsky

            I own a lake, guns, cows, 4 wheelers, a side by side, land, a horse, a boat, and a house. My kids will learn freedom through exercise of it.

          2. DiegoF

            My gut tells me it’s probably true, but I wonder why it is. It’s not like living in an apartment building in the middle of a city, buying your burgers with cash you earned from your area of competitive advantage instead of slaughtering them and grinding them up, etc., is any inherently less “libertarian” a lifestyle on paper. But you are probably right.

          3. Lachowsky

            It’s different Diego. I had a childhood where I ran around unsupervised on hundreds of acres of land from after breakfast until dinner is ready. A child who grows up with a freedom like that is more likely to value freedom than one who is given the freedom to walk down the block and back.

          4. DiegoF

            There are hundreds of acres in Manhattan 🙁

          5. Lachowsky

            tou che, but I maintain its different. There were not any people where I ran around in my childhood.

          6. CPRM

            There are hundreds of acres in Manhattan

            Did you grow up with the pride that your family had earned all that land through their hard work? And that someday it could all be yours? Now, my family plot I live on isn’t more than 2.5 acres; but when I see the beauty and memories here it makes me happier than anything else. I helped my grandpa build the sidewalk outside, and now that it is falling apart I hope one day I will be lucky enough to have a son help me redo it.

          7. DiegoF

            I didn’t grow up in Manhattan at all; how dare you

          8. CPRM

            I dare because I don’t care. Oh, that slogan could have worked for D.A.R.E. if they wanted to be edgier.

          9. CPRM

            Sorry, you don’t own that lake, just the land around it. The DNR owns that lake.

          10. Lachowsky

            fucking reality sucks.

          11. DiegoF

            For the very first time reading that word, I did so as “librarians.” I wonder if there are any libertarian librarians? I wouldn’t be utterly shocked if there were not a single one.

          12. egould310

            SugarFree is a librarian. And a monster.

          13. CPRM

            I refuse to believe SugarFree does anything other than torture porn for a living.

          14. straffinrun

            Doesn’t surprise me at all. His references are quite literary. That’s what makes the juxtapositions with stomach churning imagery all the more effective.

          15. DiegoF

            Yes. Two of my favorites, the Warty tween origin story and the Nazi one, did not even have much super out-there stuff. I think some have been downright PG rated. All are obviously excellent. Does SF have any professionally published work?

          16. CPRM

            You mean the two I did artwork for? Maybe it was the art and not the story. I should really be getting paid for my work here. Maybe I’ll go on strike…

    5. Playa Manhattan

      First of all, congrats.

      Secondly, that’s a better “I’m pregnant!!!” pose than the hands on the belly.

      1. Lachowsky

        Thanks playa
        I thought it was as classy as some rednecks could make it. 🙂

    6. straffinrun

      Yeehaw! *Waves hat around over head* Congrats!

    7. SP

      Congratulations on both counts. What a beautiful family!

  68. CPRM

    Story on the local news was about a shortage of truck drivers. Not one mention of the regs that made Gordilox retire or, if my father were still driving would have made him retire. Nope, that can’t have anything to do with it.

  69. DiegoF

    I am digging this Racism Dog; he lets me in on some funny shit out there in the Twitterverse. This pooch false alerts so much the cops would not even hire him to find Lachowsky’s weed.

  70. Gustave Lytton
      1. DiegoF

        Oh damn it you beat me to it. Well anyway, that is what he gets for passing up a shot at an administration connection.

  71. CPRM

    I like to give late nighters some nuggets; Ep 5:Maverick at 11am central tomorrow.

    1. DiegoF

      Artists are the gays, blacks, and Jews of the professions. You would expect them to be libertarians but they are not. (Maybe Latinos too because we are so incompetent to govern ourselves and our governments keeps taking poor people’s land for their cronies and/or murdering them all over the place. But I digress.)

      1. CPRM

        I fail to see what you are saying. I am neither gay, black, latino nor jew; does that mean I’m not an artist to you? I haz confuse what it has to do with race.

        1. DiegoF

          No, I was just saying artists are a group you’d expect to be libertarians by their nature, just as you’d expect those others to be because of their histories. I was hoping you might have some interesting insight into why they are so very unlibertarian as a group.

          1. CPRM

            Oh, yeah, I posted about libertarian film makers on a board at triggerstreet.com about a decade ago and the response was not nice. “Because artists care about people, man” “Because we aren’t monsters!” and the like. I think it is more to do with the way art works. There is one person with a vision that want to execute and they impose their will anyone who is helping. This has always been my problem in the industry. I don’t like telling people what to do, but by it’s very nature that is what you have to do to achieve your vision. So I think maybe those are the people who become successful for the most part, those who wish to control others for their own vision; ie progs.

          2. DiegoF

            I thought, thinking about it, that maybe the artist’s real dream is not in fact to be left alone to do what he wants. It’s a rather brutal market that leaves most people poor and unable to earn a living, after all. Maybe when you are trying to make it your dreams turn against the vulgar market of philistines who do not appreciate your genius, and you dream of the prince or bishop with the vision to commission you to beautify his palace or realm. As people often emphasize whenever the NEA comes up, state sponsorship can hardly be predicted to ruin art when it has been so tied up with its history.

          3. CPRM

            (for various reasons it took me a decade to get my BFA) The folks who go into the arts ain’t all that smart to begin with either. I saw a lot of this, misplaced anger over past wrongs that they really didn’t know anything about. Hell, even in the poli-sci classes I took for fun where I was the only one there who wasn’t majoring in it they were confused when I explained to the class and the professor that Thomas Jefferson wasn’t there when the constitution was written. (him being in France and all). A decade of college taught me only people who want knowledge can ever achieve, those who aren’t there for that will only get a piece of paper and then go on to teach the next generation.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Woo hoo! Another reason to get up another day!

  72. Gustave Lytton

    FDR fellating tonight on TCM.

    RIP Robert Osborne.

    1. CPRM

      One of my happiest moments was when I burned a picture of FDR. That was a fun night, the burning of the picture was a small part.

    2. DiegoF

      Why would you do that; he can’t even feel it

      1. CPRM

        As far as I know polio caused paralysis, not numbness.

    3. DiegoF

      What does TCM have to say about FDR btw? I know the guy from Young Turks (the guy who isn’t gay and not there anymore, or a self-hating Armenian chick, or the dude’s dumb nephew to try to get more women to watch) is on there, but he seems more apolitical on TYT than he does political on TCM. I am surprised.

      The most political piece of cinema/theater ever is Annie, because it has Daddy Warbucks being the cuddly, curmudgeonly Republican who is personal friends with the affable FDR and pays him a visit in his helicopter. Not a huge deal overall in a show that is actually pretty damn friendly to American values and opportunity. But in fact the comic strip is so rabidly anti-FDR that it all but openly celebrated and taunted his death. So the rewrite is about as blatant a travesty as you get.

      1. CPRM

        I think you’re missing a joke there. Daddy WARbucks (War Money) was friends with FDR.

        1. DiegoF

          And Annie, the everyday American given a prime seat to it all, saw not the evil that was right in front of her; that is why she had no eyeballs. No excuse for not putting that in the musical though. Would’ve been an excellent way to employ disabled youth actors too.

          1. CPRM

            Subtext is lost on those who miss the point of the text.

          2. CPRM

            Also; I do not know the tech regarding contact lenses at the time of filming; and disabled people are a pain to work with, “Oh I can’t see!” “Back to one!” “where’s my mark?” “Break! Honey go to craft services.” “where’s that? I can’t see.” “Over there.” “Over where? I can’t see where you’re pointing.” “Fuck me, I never should have hired an actual blind kid!”

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Smirking smug Ben Mankiewicz has the author of “The Fight for the Four Freedoms: What Made FDR and the Greatest Generation Truly Great” with him. FDR and freedom don’t belong in the same sentence, other than as a joke.

        Speaking of TCM– if I got a hold of a time machine, before considering taking out young artist Adolf, I’d bone Myrna Loy from Fu Manchu to Mr Blandings.

        1. Winston

          I’d bone Myrna Loy

          Oh the irony: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrna_Loy#Personal_life

          Even before Loy became a staunch Democrat, one of her biggest fans was Franklin D. Roosevelt, who invited her to the White House early in his administration,[39] and she soon became a personal friend of Eleanor Roosevelt.[40]

          1. CPRM

            So she was a lesbo with Eleanor? We need these kinds of films being made about the current first lady!

          2. Winston

            You may be over imagining things there… ;P

          3. Gustave Lytton

            I know. I’d redeem her.;)

          4. Winston

            In 1921, Loy posed for Venice High School sculpture teacher Harry Fielding Winebrenner for the central figure “Inspiration” in his allegorical sculpture group Fountain of Education.[13] Completed in 1922, the sculpture group was erected in front of the campus outdoor pool in May 1923 where it stood for decades.[14] Loy’s slender figure with her uplifted face and one arm extending skyward presented a “vision of purity, grace, youthful vigor, and aspiration” that was singled out in a Los Angeles Times story that included a photo of the “Inspiration” figure along with the model’s name—the first time her name appeared in a newspaper.[15] A few months later, Loy’s “Inspiration” figure was temporarily removed from the sculpture group and transported aboard the battleship Nevada for a Memorial Day pageant in which “Miss Myrna Williams” participated.[15] Fountain of Education can be seen in the opening scenes of the 1978 film Grease. After decades of exposure to the elements and vandalism, the original concrete statue was removed from display in 2002, and replaced in 2010 by a bronze duplicate paid for through an alumni-led fundraising campaign.[15][16]

        2. Winston

          Didn’t like her in Love me Tonight?

          I imagine your favorite scene in Fu Manchu was the one with her and Charles Starrett….

          1. egould310

            Fu Manchu: Ojo Rojo https://youtu.be/aiuUJzKZHCI

    4. Winston

      Well Warner Bros. did engage in pretty blatant FDR fellating: see 42nd Street, Footlight Parade or Little Giant

  73. Gustave Lytton

    Good night y’all. I know this has appeared in a number of places but still heartwarming:

    https://youtu.be/V-OY8Knxh-M