By Plisade
I read an article the other day. Twin sisters had committed suicide together. Apparently, they were well-known in a certain circle for their debilitating OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder). They would take ten-hour showers to cleanse their skin, as an example of the OCDness. Their condition first became known at a young age when it would take more than an hour just to get their shoes and socks on – the socks couldn’t be wrinkled, the laces had to be tied just so. Et cetera. Ad mortem.
This reminded me of a regular occurrence of my youth, my last memory of it being before my age of 9. This occurrence would happen as I lay in between, temporally, having laid down to sleep and falling asleep, in the twilight betwixt wakefulness and blissful nocturnal coma. I would see, in my mind’s eye, an uninterrupted vision of crinkled grayness, the best visual analogy of that being a vast United States Geographical Survey topographical map of a mountain range of fairly uniform and frequent variations of elevation, complete with shading, but rather than the USGS-topo-white-background, a -grey-. This made me uneasy. Understand, the crinkled grayness made me uneasy. The crinkled grayness *alone and itself* made me uneasy. I would see this, this inescapable vision – for my eyes were already closed, and so rendered unable by any other means to block it out – and lie there ill at ease, unable to sleep. Eventually, however, the grey would noticeably smooth, and peace and sleep befall me.
In time, I knew that the smoothed grayness was inevitable, the crinkles surmountable, for I (must have) learned (through trial and error) a physiological way to hasten its coming along with its desired calm and slumber.
It’s been decades since I’ve had such an experience or even thought of it.
But now, this OCD article has reminded me of it. And my now-experienced mind interprets it thusly. Assuming an understanding of the significance of abstraction in (human) evolution and thought, like the ability to make beautiful burst-on-the-scene and simply elegant cave paintings, and the mind-blowing significance of at least the conscious acknowledgment of that significance, the crinkled grayness is an abstract representation of all things that need to be corrected before a living being can be at ease.
On the bell curve of the acquisition of humans’ crinkled grayness evolutionary trait, OCD would be on the far right, with far too much of it. Much as child molestation would be on the curve of the neoteny trait.
The crinkles are unformed arrowheads to be flaked, sharpened… stones and twigs to be removed from the ground for a better night’s sleep… hide to be scraped and tanned for a well-preserved pelt.
Conversely, the smooth is the landscape more easily cultivated. A friendlier sea to harvest. A peaceful sky to roam beneath. A path more easily walked. A line with only 2 points. A wall with but 4. A Fourier transform that is not merely the best approximation.
The mind deals in abstractions to make computation easier. The sense of vision is the human’s most dominant. The crinkles must be eradicated for survival. And somewhere in there is a good beer buzz on a deck in the southernmost hinterland of metro Nashville, TN
Agile Cyborg?
I have not seen him around.
Can’t be, I read it too the end without zoning out once.
True. I’ll admit I use to scroll past AC comment walls.
Comment walls are for self-important assholes.
Maybe your comment walls are but mine display my absolute perfection!
I admit the same.
I also avoid late night HM posts.
It’s as if you don’t want nightmares.
That was very meandering yet thoughtful. A perfect read for having just plopped down on my sofa and sipping a vodka and Perrier. Thanks for sharing.
Sad, interesting, thought-provoking, and finally inspiring as I’m about to pour myself a double after a long workout.
Interesting read as I sip a Manhattan on the patio in the warm spring sun.
WTF? There’s something worse than OCD going on there. I mean, I know a couple of people who are badly OCD and they just keep obsessively doing the things they do.
Anyway, the good news is that I hear Bernie has a plan to give everyone a job making $15 an hour and it’s not going to cost a dime.
This is why, once again, despite all the crowing about Finland today I still support replacing the bureacratic welfare state with a system of cash transfer payments. Whether or not you do, at least try confronting progs with a question: Why not replace, say, the minimum wage with an EITC expansion that will do all its work? Don’t let them feed you the line that they “work better together”; tell them the question is “why not accomplish whatever you consider adequate ‘help’ for low-skilled workers entirely through the EITC?”
“What’s an ‘EITC’?”
Earned income tax credit. Just noticed they call it “EIC” on the 1040 this year; don’t know if they always did, but as a generic policy term economists always called it the EITC.
I should have added, Their response would be…
I don’t trust that anyone sincerely advocating for Sanders-style free lunch socialism has the slightest idea how markets work, much less knows even basic tax code information.
Gotcha. How did I not parse the double quotes? Must be hanging out with Brits too much, that I thought the singles were the outers.
And no payroll taxes (income or FICA) on the first $15/hr for 2000 hours.
Today I have spent much of the day doing woodworking. I want to put some built in shelves in my home office closet. I made my measurements and planned it out. I bought the lumber and brought it home. Then did the cutting into the component pieces. I did the rough sanding before calling it a day. It’s a meditative process. Taking material and cutting it just so, sanding out the imperfections, taking it from what it is, to what you want it to be. I had music going, and I realized I’d spent /hours/ bringing order out of that pile of rough lumber. It left me relaxed, and calm. In a bit, we go to dinner and I shall have a bourbon to celebrate.
It’s a meditative process.
I find the act of creating to be exactly so.
That was really interesting. Thank you.
As someone who struggles to get to (and stay) asleep, I have had similar experiences on and off throughout my life.
Try silencing that little voice that tells you wrong from right. It’s done wonders for me.
Wait, aren’t you a bit Young to have an All My Life?
Anakin Skywalker was a pilot all his life…at like 6 y/o.
Diphenhydramine and vodka for the win!
The question is, should our wrinkle-smoothing aim for ataraxia, apatheia, eudaimonia, or just mere aponia?
A Stoic accepts and revels in the wrinkles on his scrotum.
I have made mine completely smooth through the power of my will alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x5Fv9n89bI
You will be part of my flashes just before I die for finding this guy.
I’m going to walk my daughter down the aisle at her wedding to this.
Plotting to keep her from ever marrying?
You’re having hot flashes?
I hear saline injections work, too
So has Ken, but at a price.
The mortgage he’s forking over on a so-called dream house with only three exterior walls?
a Dream House in which Barbie gives him horns with the entirety of the Joe Team?
Who doesn’t want to live in a pyramid?
And technically, doesn’t an A-frame only have two exterior walls?
That depends on where you draw the line between a sloped wall and a roof.
Heh. You had me thinking, When did Ken Shultz start turning tricks?
The Ken I mean lacks certain attributes useful in turning tricks.
Given your above comment, I presume you mean a Kung-Fu Grip.
What about the ridiculously long pubes sticking out of your underwear?
Good question. I wonder if the vicissitudes of meiosis have ever given any Blasians the combination of the freaky straight pubes with the black man’s scalp hair. You figure it’s had to have happened at least once.
Maybe cultural appropriation brought on by the use of hair straighteners?
Smooth as eggs!
I am currently struggling at work making “crinkly grayness” happen. I think my original choice of purple was weak.
Yeah, I should have for a blacker purple. Or maybe just black.
Whichever one offers the best orgasms.
I have (undiagnosed) Meniere’s Disease. Know what it’s like to sleep on one side of my ear (already with reduced hearing) and hear the sounds of fucken sea shell? I’m already a light sleeper as it is (at one point I had a real bout of insomnia for a few years) so this new development wasn’t welcomed.
I tell ya. Muppets have it rough sometimes.
Your decision not to seek unnecessary health care is commendable (what you gonna do about Meniere’s Disease?), but you may want to make sure that not getting a diagnosis on the record at an early stage might not have some adverse consequences in the future for some purpose.
Meh. Apparently steroid shots into the ear drum is one option. Since my drum is already perforated (when I was 14), it wouldn’t be that bad an option but whatever. I don’t like waiting in doctor offices.
Meniere’s Disease; isn’t that what Huey Louis just came out as suffering from?
You get used to it after a while. It’s like living next to a waterfall; eventually you ignore the sound.
Diego is right, though; best to have your condition checked. Sometimes, something can be done for the tinnitus.
I *should* but I have to do something about the procrastination first.
Ohhh, like Tinnitus? I have a full blown High Frequency blasting me right now, and the Seashell in the backgound.
My hearing is such, that if I need rest, I sleep one one side, and the other for napping, light sleep, I feel for ya
Thank you, Chaka.
Pretty much it. When I sleep on my bad ear, I can’t even tolerate listening to someone speak it’s so annoying. Plus it’s all muzzled. My wife will sometimes say something and all I hear is Charlie Brown’s teacher.
I had a similar thing going on as a wee lad. I’d also see a gray field in that time between not quite conscious and not quite asleep, and the gray field also made be very uneasy. My field was not crinkled, though. It was perfectly uniform. Except there was this very thin, needle-like black line slowly bisecting the field from left to right. And it would just never get to the right side no matter how much I willed it to. Eventually I would either fall asleep or wake up all freaked out and frustrated.
At the time, I could not blame Los Doyers. But now I do.
Now I do.
I’ve always counted to get to sleep, and I see the number …. squiggle. It’s not a line, it meanders and whenever I hear or see a number I immediately see its place on the squiggle.
I’ll stop talking now.
I do the same, but rather than count I knock back several gin drinks and rather than squiggles it’s blackout drunk.
My “mind’s eye” sees wheels turning, one big on on the left, mirrored on the right. I am in between them, and there’s a constant sense of forward motion. The wheels are thin, radius much bigger than the rim thickness. They tilt slightly in, so it’s like a Renaissance perspective thing: the wheels are flanking me but slightly ahead.
In the background behind “me” and to the side of me are other, much smaller wheels. That’s where the things “on the back of my mind” hang out until they burst forth with guns blazing and redirect the whole thing, becoming part of the Big Wheels. I swear, I can go to sleep with a math or engineering problem in my head, and I wake up with the solution. Thanks, unconscious brain!
On the other and, sometimes the wheels spend endlessly, fruitlessly, and drive me crazy.
Gimme another, barkeep.
When trying to sleep I always fear I won’t wake up; sends me in a downward spiral of thinking of death. Good times.
We just got home from the Wifes SSA hearing, slogging through OC traffic, A cobra will remove the Wrinkles just fine, odd but interesting piece Plisade,
Huzzah!
All of my dreams are dystopian, and always have been, The West Coast is pretty much Destroyed, San Diego is on fire, the north Coast got hit by a Tsunami, strange lights in the Sky Inland, the very Mountains Changed form. I’ve had the same group of dreams All My Life.
Why is California getting destroyed a dystopia?
Prophesy, and Did I mention Colorado turns into Cannibal Central, Northern Mexico is a Flooded Jungle with elevated Railways, the Eastern Seaboard is gone….
is that better? Oh and I can consciously Fly, if I can realize I’m dreaming,
/Carlos Casteneda was a good teacher?
Everything sounded good until the lucid dreaming part; -1 Gabby Giffords
San Diego isn’t on fire at present.
As I said on FB yesterday, you might be suffering from first world problems if your office view of the mountains is obscured by the palm trees outside your window. 🙂
OT: I’ve been streaming “Moriccone Island” on WFMU for the last hour. Highly recommend. If you like music and film, and film music, check the show out. Weekly interviews with film composers, musicians, actors, directors. Everything cinema. From direct to video 80’s horror soundtracks to Italian zombie nazi schlock from the 70’s, to contemporary film and Oscar nominated scores. Must listen radio. Listen to it live on the fun 91 in NYC/Jersey City. Or stream on the WFMU app (the best imo), or at wfmu.org
Just wanted to share something good with you all. Check it out!
What time of day? I’d like to check it out,
Tuesdays 4 to 5 pm Pacific. Always abailabe to stream past episodes on the app or at wfmu.org
Thx giving it a try.
I really like a few of thier DJ’s. In particular Brian Turner.
You can’t really relax until you have a plan to deal with all of your shit to do. Especially if you’re a Russian.
Beer fixes the problem nicely, I’ll get right back to that later……
I’ve found in my ongoing study that beer is most effective against Macumba. My wife keeps trying Macumba to turn me into a sex slave, but my beer has deflected it like ping pong balls off a concrete wall. I must continue this study to get at the truth.
We Husbands must endure so much……..Sex,
/and BEER!
Does anyone in this place have a wife from America? Geez, we are worse than the alt-righters.
My Wife was Born 100 yards from my house, in SoCal, so yes, why do you ask , oh Tulpa’d one?
My wife is American, she just happens to be Latina by coincidence.
But She is an American, no one cares where you’re from, except for maybe tasty Recipes and stuff like that,
/America!, Fuck Yeah!
Yeah, well almost, I mean she’s applied for citizenship now, but I ain’t sorry bout that Latina stuff.
Hey, She Wants to be American? Good enough,
/Cool!
And a certified adorable deplorable, she even has the t-shirt, which she likes to wear for jammies, endearing.
Good on the 2 of you, Cheers!
“Good on the 2 of you, Cheers!”
Much appreciated, good sir.
I married a full blooded Italian from Philadelphia, so you know I’m a true blue American masochist.
Good news! Your study has been funded by a grant from the Federal Government!
Bad news! You are now in the control group and will be drinking O’Doul’s
( I think I have an apostrophe wrong, but I don’t want NA beer in my search history)
“will be drinking O’Doul’s”
Nah, that ain’t happening, I’m the PI, one of the poor study volunteers has to suffer that fate. Well, I mean it’s not as bad as what we did to the mice.
No, you’re right! God damn, that’s how you know the stuff’s of the Devil. Nothing should have that many apostrophes unless it’s some exotic Hawaiian moonshine or some Klingon shit.
Remember Sharps, Miller’s answer? Don’t even think they still make it but I remember the ads as a kid. They taught me it was brewed as non-alcoholic from the start, rather than as beer that they take the alcohol out of, which makes it taste better.
Dumb Bitch get’s Punked
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/watch_video_shows_pa_commissioner_telling_cops_to.html
“Get’s”? What kind of monster are you?
Christ Ted, I just noticed, I’m real sorry about that, I know you get miffed, Il’l try not to let it happen’, ag’ain
Good grief. She got a heapin helpin of that privilege I’ve been unable to locate thus far? Fuck. I hate police brutality, but for some reason, I wanted someone to slam her head into the pavement. That’s just sad.
Just gotten to the opening seconds of the video; and I know it’s not the point, but I just had a thought. It would indeed be cool if any “concerned citizen,” not just a P.A. commissioner, could indeed demand a full accounting of any police activity just like that. To say, “I need to know,” and not be told, “No, you don’t need to know. You were not involved here.” Yes I do and yes I am, because you are a public employee and I am the public.
Paging Lachowsky to the white courtesy phone….
The interaction is between LEO and A Citizen, so NO,
Fuck off Slaver
Interesting but not clear. Elaborate.
If you want to shoot video, that’s fine, but My interaction with LEO is MY business, so I say, Back the Fuck off,
YMMV
I agree with Yusef, the LAST thing I want when I am trying to talk my way out of a ticket is some officious twerp coming up and getting the Cop wound up with a bunch of over the top “I pay your salary therefore you must treat me as your boss.”
Pick your battles, you aren’t a libertarian hero when you start berating a cop about Con Law when the issue is speeding, obscured plates etc. The LEO is not the villain in those scenarios, the legislature that passed the stupid law is, and the town council that pushes the LEO to write revenue tickets as well. My advice in police interactions is be polite, shut up, don’t consent to anything you are asked to consent to, shut up some more, and if in doubt shut up again.
In case it is unclear all the “You”s above are general, not targeted at Diego
I have a console vault in which I keep my concealed carry firearm. If the cops bring a drug dog, do I have to open the vault or do I make them break it open and when they find no drugs, sue them?
Perfect
I’m a real estate lawyer in Fla up North (Ohio). My opinion on this matter has a negative value. I have no clue what the Florida laws say about obligation to disclose for CCW permit holders, proper transportation, rules on hidden compartments in car etc.
Oh, I certainly wouldn’t do what you’re describing. Not saying I would.
I don’t buy though this “the cops aren’t the villain take it up with those who make the laws” business, which is a line LEOs use all the time to object to the so-called “grief” or “ball-busting” or “giving us a hard time” they supposedly get all the time from citizens. (Never mind the completely different tune they sing while they do their prodigious amount of lobbying over just what laws should be passed.) Sometimes they have a point, but not always.
In other words, whoever suggested the cops were the “villains”? I simply suggested (threw out there) that as the public agents enforcing a public law they might be subject to a certain type of citizen inquiry into their activities. That’s not suggesting they’re “the bad guys.” It’s not “busting their balls” or “hassling” them or in any way impugning them. That’s just a common way they talk to reflect their perverse and warped sense of morality and entitlement.
This is interesting, because I was always (apart from a very tiny number of cop-watch type radicals at the fringe of the libertarian movement) the only one who was from the start suspicious that body cams (as opposed to citizen filming) could, especially if the laws are not carefully put into place, do more harm than good. And that we’d better do something about it before the cops realize they actually like them.
Of course now that they are spreading everywhere, and we are not seeing the results in the stats or even in bringing cops to justice, and all the laws governing them are shitty and pro-cop, now people are starting to rethink the potential pitfalls–rather than rushing out with, well, good laws would be ideal but let’s at least get the cams going and not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Basically I’ve always been a huge privacy guy but I’ve found that libertarians are not so in general–they are concerned with it in a rather narrow sense, limiting government surveillance on private citizens. Once that concern is out of the picture–i.e., once government has actually collected the information–Joe Libertarian is typically (not always, but often) less concerned with disclosure back to the public. I.e. he puts on his “government transparency” hat.
And I can always see where he is coming from on this, even when I am more hesitant myself. Here, I was just playing with the idea in this case. I imagined what it would be like if you see the cops beating up or harassing some kid in the street, and you had a right as a citizen to demand info on these things and not being told, “Butt out lady; this doesn’t concern you.” I am pretty sure that traffic, and indeed pedestrian, stops are already in some sense public record.
I’m a pretty big privacy guy as well. I can be incredibly open about things with friends, but I want to choose what I tell people, and I have a huge amount of sympathy for ‘celebrities’ who end up with every detail of their life being published, falsified etc by TMZ et al. I think a lot of people (including from time to time the Supreme Court) think the 1A gives the press a right to poke into every aspect of anything deemed newsworthy (a determination the press makes itself), using any methods they choose. I am not completely sold on this right. Unfortunately I don’t have a good idea for how to limit it, except that I would tend to restrict the Sullivan test for libel to cases where the plaintiff was an elected official or bureaucrat.
I’m torn, because in principle I agree that law enforcement should be as transparent as possible so that you don’t have people being dragged off in the night or just harassed without any public knowledge or possibility of accountability. I don’t like the idea of someone being beaten by a cop and people just keeping their heads down and hustling past. On the other hand, police do have a job to do, and sometimes that job is to stop people who are breaking a law and/or demonstrating an imminent threat to others, detain them, and possibly arrest them, and those people may resist. From a distance, it would be pretty hard to tell the difference between a guy fighting back against cops who pulled him over for being black in a nice car or a guy who’s driving a stolen car and doesn’t want to go to prison. And as said above, oftentimes the best thing to do is to just be polite, keep your mouth shut, and get an attorney. Interactions with police are confrontations with armed strangers, and de-escalating them is almost always the best option. Having strangers come by to “help” is going to make the guys with the guns pointed at you nervous, and that’s usually the last thing you want.
That’s interesting, because libel is one area I think I’ve been won over to the “orthodox libertarian” side.
I agree that Sullivan seems like it would have been talking about actual public officials. But on the other hand, what about people like Soros and the Parkland crowd and various other powerful “private” people who seek or have major influence over critical public policy. Surely uncovering the facts about them is as important as it is for the Springfield County dog catcher!
An additional consideration: One of the things we’ll have to come to terms with as a society is that the advance of technology has made it so we will simply not be able to control some things, even if we agree we wanted to. Kiddie porn is an example; so is IP violations (if you believe in such a thing), bombmaking information, or any other information you may think is just to suppress. And that most certainly includes libel. It simply is not enforceable, in a practical sense, in a way compatible with a free Internet (see Section 230), which we all agree is the greater good. The Internet has turned the world into one giant gossipy small town, where one enemy (even as a little kid) can destroy your reputation for life. Some of the most lucrative websites do nothing but make money off other people’s libel of others. But I fear the only viable way out is to hope we may develop a culture in which everyone begins to grow a sense of skepticism over what they see online, in place of this . We will all be free when everything that can be said about anyone, is said about everyone on the Internet, and we finally have no choice but to grow out of the anachronistic and childish tendency to suppose that “there must be some truth to it” when we see it.
Viewed in this light, libel laws would only impede the development of such a culture. So they’ve helped make me more sympathetic to the suggestion that everyone should be subject to the “public figure” standard of Sullivan–or even, more radically, that libel should not be a tort at all! If libel law can no longer protect you in practice, even if we wanted it to (and note that “private figures” are more vulnerable to online libel, since they do not have the voice to fight back and there is less stuff out there to counteract–who is going to be more hurt by a lone enemy claiming you’re a coked-out sex pervert, you or Taylor Swift?–which was one of the reasonings used in Sullivan) then it does more harm than good.
The problem I have with the expansion of Sullivan is not Soros and his ilk, it’s the poor schlub who gets the darkside of the 15 minutes of fame and has his life destroyed.
Dude, the bitch is a total cunt. Her entire attitude is based on ‘I’m someone important and these students are PhDs from somewhere important!’. FUCK. THAT. CUNT.
I liked the LEOs telling her, NO, and then passing the video along. Fuck the Police and all that, but FUCK petty Tyrants even more
I think you just stumbled into the libertarian version of intersectionality.
I only saw the first few seconds! Obviously this woman is only demonstrating corruption and entitled behavior; I certainly have said nothing to suggest making apologies for her! Don’t think of my comment as having much of anything to do with her actual situation; I just said it was a musing loosely inspired by watching the first few seconds.
See above^ I posted the Link because that’s the kind of Shit that pisses this group off, So it is fun for us to watch a Petty Tyrant get Fucked!
Don’t Think I hate You Diego, I hate You All,
/JK
Turner, 60, a Democratic lobbyist who served as the ethics chair of the powerful bi-state agency,
Nuff’ said.
Whipped up a quick (for me) video on my most recent Kickstarter delivery: https://youtu.be/MO3ln909oH8 (art heavy). Need to keep working on script for Friday’s movie review.
Please tell me you look exactly like your avatar in real life, except that you also smoke a corn cob pipe
Pretty close, but buck teeth and no pipe.
So like the Zardoz Fish that floats around here?
No facial hair.
That’s awesome
I lurked at TOS a bit, you were having fun I noticed, as well as a few people no longer posting here
I hope that during your lurking, you didn’t miss the inventing of STEVE SMITH. That’s pretty much the funniest fucking thing I have ever seen on the intertoobzs. God bless you, Sugarfree.
Damn, my wife cut her hair and she looks like one of the neighborhood Jew girls. She’s cute as fuck like that with the dark hair and bangs. When I tried to pull her sleeves down to make long sleeves and put some sort of black disk on my head, she got mad. Did I do something wrong?
What kind of orthodox are they? Not modern orthodox, and I can never keep track of what yeshivish haredim do, but most Hasidic courts those cute hairdos are going to be wigs. Maybe that is why she is pissed off.
As far as I can tell, only the older women are wearing wigs. The younger ones just have the same hairdo with bangs, all of them, or almost, dark hair. As far as I know, they are Hasidic Orthodox and most or all of them are Russian. Some of the women are smoking fucking hot, I kid you not.
But again, maybe OMWC or someone more familiar with the Jewish culture can weigh in here. I’m still pretty uninformed, it’s not like the Jewish Orthodox here talk to us gentiles too much. I mean they do occasionally, especially when they’re your doctors or bankers, or shop owners, which is pretty much all of them.
We need pics, for science.
Paging Q… or did you want them twerking… paging HM, or er wait are they of age? Paging OMWC…
This place is populated by prime perverts.
Just plain old pervs here. The prime ones like Plopper stayed at TOS.
So, we were driving home from somewhere a couple of weekends ago, probably just the grocery store and my wife says ‘Honey, did you see her dress?’. Yeah, sure I notice all the dresses. What that actually means is ‘Did you notice her, because she’s stacked like a brick shithouse’. And she was. So I said ‘Yeah, I saw that’. End of conversation.
My Wife Knows the Term Quite well, I love it when She points out Hot Women, That’s a Wife
Women pay way more attention to other women that men do. I mean seriously, I’ve been walking down the street with a female co-worker and she might say ‘OMG, did you see her boots!?’, and I’m like ‘WTF’. It’s like that.
I always find it more charming the more a couple displays the confidence to dish with each other over the hotties they see.
“I always find it more charming the more a couple displays the confidence to dish with each other over the hotties they see.”
Every year, my wife wants me to watch the Carnival samba dance competitions with her so we can try to pick the winners. She knows I’m only voting on body, but it’s all cool.
Well, women certainly are better at pointing out the interaction of clothes and makeup on hotness. We are not interested in such things and only notice if it is egregious. That woman entered your visual field and all that happened is your undies tightened a little; what else is new in a day in your life, you barely thought anything of it. But she entered the wife’s field of vision and it’s like the fucking Terminator; she’s analyzed the whole fucking mechanics.
If they are wiggers they wear wigs when they get married, which they do quite early. There’s no special rules for being old–only under 13 vs over 13 for the laddies and married or unmarried for everyone. What you think is the same, cute hairdo are actually cute wigs. I didn’t say they were bad wigs. Young orthodox women, on the various levels, can be just as into what they are wearing and how they present themselves and status symbols and so forth as any other women, except they do it within their world, in their terms. And wigs, quite appropriately, are the biggest thing to wig out over.
Thanks, bro. I guess the younger ones are just better at it. I suppose the older ones are not into the milf scene, yet.
Hyp, based on your [possibly inebriated] babble, I can’t for the life of me picture the physical scenario with the sleeves and black disk, or why the wifey was irritated by that. But I would like to know more.
Subscribe?
I’m glad some of you got a little diversion from this. I can’t visit much (what with work et al) but this is my favorite site. You guys are intelligently hilarious. Thanks, Glibs.
Fuck off, slaver.
Umm, Narrowed Gaze Request……
I prefer hilariously intelligent.
Thanks for the article, I enjoyed it.
Thanks for the article, essay? Prose poem?
He ain’t one of your éses, buddy!
Hilarious how? We amuse you? Like A fuckin’ clown? You know what you said, you’re a big boy!
It’s you, isn’t it Tulpa?
Not sure what this was, but I liked it.
If you get these strange musing again, please share.
Thank You, Good Sir!
I wish goatse was in its original form.
Forgot to mention I enjoyed the article. Very original and well-written; I appreciated the insight.
Ok, sorry if I linked this before, but I really like this.
Let’s Drive
Great drankin music. I need one Scotch, one Bourbon, One beer. Oh shit, I ain’t got no Scotch… Oh wait, I do! Shit, no beer… Oh yes, I have plenty! Shit, no Bourbon, no wait, I do!
Looks like it’s on, one scotch, one bourbon, one beer!
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3, and maybe 5 after another Cobra
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I need a Redhead with big Boobies! HEEELPPP!
For Yusef.
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NSFW.
I think I see a reddish tint. Better put on some sunblock just in case. I’ll help.
Damn, I love this place.
And most of you.
( (o) )
Is that an anus?
It looks like an anus, and now they claim that Uranus smells like rotten eggs.
Wouldn’t you like to know.
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God, Unicode rules so much.
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We love you too, Tundra. Even if your name might imply that you’re Canadian.
There is frozen tundra outside of Canada too, Hyp. It’s true.
NO! IT’S A LIE! … oh, ok, Tundra is Siberian?
He lives high in the Andes.
You’re partially correct.
The demarcation line is merely construct. In actuality, we are one with our slightly chilly brothers and sisters to the north.
They ain’t even the same species.
I’M NOT SIBERIAN!
Or Canadian.
The handle, originally from TOS, was inspired by this, and has evolved.
Evolving without you
Dissolving without you
Sorry dude, you had me confused with your Russian accent and Canadian looking avatar. I didn’t even realize that you’re really from New Jersey.
*drops gloves*
He does look like hoser, You can have more than one avatar Tundra…
What a bunch of fags. Get a room.
Awesome! FUCK OFF! get a life! start a Website!
So, where is the live election coverage from the AZ special election, I mean for what for sure will the the billionth special election win for Democrats?
Democrats won the Westchester County State Senate seat by 13 points. I always knew they would, and this “up for grabs” business was a bunch of media hype. The district is 2 to 1 Democratic and the margin (with the same Republican) was similar two years ago. Simcha Felder, the Orthodox (but apparently not orthodox) Democrat who caucuses with the Republicans, is staying put, which I actually thought he would not signal so early. Control was never going to switch this session, which is almost over anyway.
“Your PC needs the latest security updates”
THEN QUIT BREAKING MY VIDEO AN NIC DRIVERS YOU FUCKING MOOKS.
You have Windows? Sad!
Who in the first world doesn’t have Windows?
Diego? Hipsters with I phones? The Center Cannot hold…
I’m on Linux Mint.
You’re Tulpa? Sad…
and Windows Security Updates Suck, but My PC hasn’t been Compromised in 10 years, so Fuck anti Windows people,
and STAY AWAY FROM PORN: PSA
I have no particular ideology on the matter. Windows is undoubtedly the only choice for people who play video games or need any other particular application like video editing software and so forth. But I installed a Linux distro way back when I didn’t know the vaguest thing about anything. It was easy and it remains very easy to use and it feels funny when I use Windows now. Avoiding porn, and (far more importantly) shady Russian and Chinese sites, and so forth, does not seem like a good solution.
I get it, but…. if you do any Heavy Audio processing, Windows is your answer, same for video, IMO and the ability to tweek your machine is invaluable. And No, Apple can Bite ME regarding DAWs, W machines are far Superior
Why are Your Drivers outdated? PEBKAC?
I have no idea what the problem is. Everything is updated. I let Microsoft install the latest security update, log in, and it only outputs onboard video and my NIC is no longer recognized. This happens every time they push another security patch.
I roll W10 Insider and don’t have issues, I wonder if I get more recent patches? It always works so, I don’t know…
I reloaded this page–no comment hashtag after the backslash–and got everything in blue. Weird.
Hmmm, Me too
Heh.
‘splain, I use Windows…
He said hashtag, you said Me too.
You said me to while wearing a revealing kilt, I mean skirt. Certainly you were asking for it.
Just talked to my little brother. He’s a senior in college wit combat experience and a sketchy record. He just got a job at the pine bluff arsenal.
Hayekexplosives, are you here? I have a question or two for you. He’s worries about security clearance stuff. I talked to him for an hour this evening, but I don’t have answers for some of his questions.
His job is a DOD job. I figure you know a few things about this.
My handle with a K in front @Gmail if you care to respond. Or respond here. either way, I’d be happy.
Not hayekexplosives and do not hold a security clearance but I’ve watched others go through the process. His new employer is hiring him without a clearance and then have the security investigation performed? Awesome, much better than being a requirement for being hired.
Sketchy record, assume everything official is available to the investigator, even if it was expunged or sealed as a juvenile. The idea is to make sure that everything relevant is disclosed. Undisclosed or suspected of not being truthful is usually more of a concern. Or ongoing misconduct.
Some light reading for your brother
http://ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/2016.html
Last year’s version
http://ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/2017.html
This year so far. Missed this the first time
http://ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/2018.html
I have had to do it several times, and as long as you’re not on Parole for Murder and honest, Bro should be fine, just my XP
just my XP
I thought you said you updated Windows regularly.
Some one is gonna get some dick picks.
The dick pics are coming from inside the house!
Now you’ve crossed over into ‘taboo’ porn.
Also; this.
Ok, that made me spit out some cold sippin’ vodka, dammit.
Did send you an email. Let me know if it didnt come through. Sent from my handle at protonmail.
If he got a job his employer, who probably did at least a basic background check, probably thinks he will get the necessary clearance. As long as he is (and his references are) honest, and hasn’t been caught committing felonies he probably is okay.
Hegelianism/Socialism/Marxism/Nazism, the progression is creepy, Mankind is Stupid,
We are on the way to the next step…
What did poor Hegel ever do to deserve being part of your creep narrative? You might as well say Adam Smith/Marx/Lenin/Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot, since Marx certainly built on Smith! (Modern economics has also borrowed a bit from Marx by the way, and you might be surprised at how familiar the most radical libertarians are with Marxist thought and analyses.)
Hegel was very ‘deep’ on the surface, and only that.
Hey I didn’t say I liked him; I actually know very little about him (though I suspect you’re not giving him a fair shake from what I’ve heard from people whose analysis I trust). I’m just saying putting him in a “progression” based on the evils of people further down the line who happen to have used him doesn’t seem very helpful. In contrast, Lenin did pervert Marx, but I can see by reading Marx precisely what I do and do not find insightful, alarming, repugnant, etc. about him without resorting to Lenin. Lenin can help draw our attention to things that were rotten in Marx from the get go, but we have to be more careful about that.
I don’t really remember off hand any of Hegel’s arguments; I just remember they they were so easy to refute It was like reading a Jezzabell article, only given the importance being taught alongside serious philosophy.
Yep. You may have read him opining on something where he was out of his element or something; it happens to the best–especially after 200 years. God knows there’s enough about Aristotle that hasn’t aged too well.
Newer philosophers of math and logic, and computer scientists, are starting to revive interest in Hegel as an intellectual strand that was neglected by developments post-Hilbert.
i’m referring to another Hegel, this Guy inspired Hitler,
this
“Yet listening to lectures on Hegel’s philosophy, it was immediately obvious that his philosophy could be interpreted as supporting nationalism in general and German nationalism in particular. His association with romantic nationalism and German romanticism, his concept of national spirit (Volksgeist) and how the spirit of the time had “settled” on the German people, and his ideas about race seem to be very amenable to being interpreted as supporting Nazi ideology.”
Why should I care whether or not he “inspired Hitler” though? The Teutonic Knights inspired Hitler. Hinduism inspired Hitler. If I want to see what I like or do not like about those things, I will go straight to them and examine them; what some insane asshole did later to pervert them tells me relatively little about their merits.
I posted a thought, I didn’t ask if You cared,
Fuck Off
Allow me to clarify the common rhetorical device I employed. “Why would anyone in their right mind care…”
Dude, get it right so I don’t have to second guess you,
Fuck Off
Sounds like you two need a drink together.
Or maybe a fuck if that floats your boat.
No honorable mention for Rousseau? I mean he was everyone’s favorite Jacobin.
Speaking of Hayek Splosives; anyone else here ever listened to any of the other music by the guys who did the song for Russ Roberts? They are Billy and Adam AKA Snakes. I Got A Dollar.
Or, If you liked that show, The Office.
Roberts’ Econtalk with Jonah Goldberg is terribly depressing. The high point was Russ citing the Torah, something like “You won’t be the one to finish the quest, but neither can you forsake it,” or something to that effect. The transcription isn’t finished yet, so I can’t get the right wording. It’s a call to arms, but awfully bleak. And when Goldberg compliments him on his media presence… the couple rap songs and the Wonder, Bread bit… it seems awfully scant. And Russ sounds so tired.
The “remnant” narrative sounds more and more attractive.
Maybe plausible is the better word.
FACT: Russ Roberts is only 10 years old; but as a multi-dimensional being from the earth where people listen to reason (I drank) being in our dimension takes a toll on his avatar in this world.
I haven’t heard that episode but generally love Econtalk.
I’m just one man, doing what I can to make Glibs great again.
Fucking AWESOME!
I had a mandatory meeting at noon today, but they served us pizza so that was cool. But the drinks were 7UP, Pepsi, Diet Pepsi in 2 liter bottles, and then one slender 1 liter of Diet Coke. My coworker asked if he could pour a soda for me and I said “Diet Coke…just like the Donald.” It was cool because he’s a total lefty but respects my libertarianism, so he got the joke about libertarians being wrongly classified as to the right of conservative Republicans.
This is Good, Hi!
7Up is the only one I could drink; damn allergy to caffeine.
As to right/left I think we are to the right of Repubs. I see it as to the left the more control the government has, to the right less. When people try to compare me to someone like Rush I say he’s a flaming leftist compared to me.
I tend to see the whole thing more as a circle rather than linear or that up/down side to side one.
The only political spectrum that matters.
If that is how you stipulate it will be used than of course. But it’s been used differently over time. In the 19th Century House of Commons it would have been very nearly the reverse. As used nowadays the terms are a real hodgepodge. (I still remember MSM publications making fools of themselves trying to describe different factions of the political order as “left” or “right” during the last days of the Soviet Union and the first days of Russia.)
Basically, I am not sure that using “left” and “right” with those meanings is going to be a helpful way to communicate clearly with the general public while explaining yourself and libertarianism.
I don’t care about public perception, I care about having clear and concise terms, which the other valuations haven’t given us.
I don’t mean P.R.
If you are talking to people presumably you are interested in communicating clearly with them. There already are sufficiently clear and concise ways to communicate what you just said–you said it yourself while defining your terms. Less versus more government control. If you want a person who is not familiar with your choice of terminology to understand what you’re saying, you’ll have to either use the perfectly well-understood language just mentioned, or you’ll have to simply stipulate beforehand, “By ‘left’ I shall mean; by ‘right’ I shall mean…” which is largely the same thing.
I think we may not have a disagreement here, because there is really nothing to disagree over. It’s a choice of terminology.
Tulpa, wall of text……….Gibberish, not even Authentic
The absolute Convection of Opera is not Conducive to further utterances, Just Say’n
What? I don’t get the joke here. Newfag, remember?
Exactly.
So when Lefty wanted to put me to the test, he said “Gay marriage–where are you?” I said “What the fuck’s that got to with me? As long as they don’t want me to subsidize their lives, I don’t give two sparkly fucks.”
That seemed to have gotten the point across.
I think, we have to frame the argument from the way the last generation did; because they confused ‘The Government Shouldn’t Be Involved in Marriage’ with “Why Come Jesus Fucks No let Gays get Married?!”
The most important part, I always say, is to avoid the cosmo practice of describing libertarianism as “economically conservative and socially liberal.” That is inaccurate, and counterproductive as a recruiting practice to boot. Part of their standard delusion.
There are conversations that you wish you could have listened to as they happened. This qualifies.
*away from.
I think I see your point overall, CPRM, and we are very much on the same page here. Libertarians are not helpfully described, in the public language, as “to the left” or whatever, on “social issues.” To a certain extent this was not accurate even 40 years ago, and it is sure as fuck not accurate now. Guns? The environment? Trans bathrooms? Planned Parenthood? Affirmative action? Intersectionality? Smoking and junk food? Free speech? GTFO with your cosmo nonsense.
After Obergfell and people saying “Love wins”, I commented that it was nice to see people supporting plural marriage. The spluttering outrage was hilarious.
Then I pointed out that we’ve gotten gay marriage mostly because gays are thankfully no longer seen as “those icky people”, but that plural marriage is seen as being practiced by those weird fundie Mormon types that it’s still culturally acceptable to see as those icky people. The notion that I had the temerity to challenge their alleged tolerance was scandalous.
This
Yeah, that whole linear spectrum thing just doesn’t cover it.
One of the best parts about libertarianism is that you don’t have to take half an hour to explain it. It’s just don’t take my freedom, don’t take my stuff, non-aggression, and let’s re-read the US constitution, not re-write it.
That’s it.
Bingo. Self ownership and the logical conclusions that leads to. It’s simple and it’s true.
Says the Scary White Boy with huge tracts of land. j/k Suthen, I admire you.
Good for him/her/ze.
No water?
To any one that cares, I’m rereading the rise and Fall of the Third Reich, 35 years later, it’s a completely different book. SOME people are being Tulpa, so I’m just going to do a book review, my short Synopisises don’t work with the clutter, Good Night Glibs!
Looking forward to it. Never got around to that book.
I read that book when I was a wee shaver, 11 or 12? i wonder what my impressions would be after so much life experience watching the world spin around. Should reread.
A bit of ethereal goodness.
You said I made you feel warm,
said I made you feel warm, inside
Dang it, Spittoon, I really enjoyed that until I scrolled down and read about Carey’s untimely appointment with the afterworld, courtesy of cancer.
Thanks. I guess…
Ok. So everyone here is nuts, just nuts in different ways.
To go to sleep I design things in my head. Houses. Furniture. Machinery. I can see it in 3d just like I am holding it in my hands. I start from the beginning and very deliberately draw it out in my mind. I am usually sleeping before I finish.
I have to be holding a book in my hands, even if I’m so pissed that I’m holding it upside down ala Harriet Tubman.