The Hutzler 571… a must for every kitchen.

Ok, I love Amazon.

Like…

Love Love Amazon.

And Amazon never ceases to amaze me with their wide array of products. If Amazon doesn’t have it, odds are good you don’t actually need it.

Today’s product is no exception. I stumbled across the Hutzler 571, and I was blown away by the reviews where people said things like:

Our marriage has never been healthier, AND we’ve even incorporated it into our lovemaking.

And…

It finally came!!! I am now, officially, the coolest neighbor on my block!!!

And…

When I first saw this product I was like, how lazy can you be? Apparently pretty lazy because I bought one and have never regretted it. LOL

If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to make a kitchen complete…what one tool you’re missing…search no longer.

This is apparently the device that makes a kitchen complete.

I present to you… The Hutzler 571.

According to Amazon: The easy-to-use Hutzler Banana Slicer provides a quick solution to slice a banana uniformly each and every time. Simply press the slicer on a peeled banana and the work is done. Safe, fun and easy for children to use.

Kids just love eating bananas with this as their favorite kitchen tool. The Banana Slicer may also be used as a quick way to add healthy bananas to breakfast cereal or to make uniform slices for a fruit salad or ice cream dessert.

Features:

  • Easy to use
  • Slices bananas uniformly, each and every time
  • Press the slicer on a peeled banana and the work is done
  • Safe and fun for kids
  • Dishwasher safe
  • BPA free
  • Banana slicing has never been easier or more fun!

While it seems like the Hutzler 571 meets every need you could possibly have, it wouldn’t be right of me to not tell you about some of its shortcomings.

First, it appears this device makes bananas stop talking, as one customer reported.

Paul empathises, “I had a similar issue with my potatoes when I got my mandolin slicer. To be honest, I kind of relish the silence now. The Yukon Golds were always bullying the russets around. Napoleon complex if you ask me.”

But, Leila believes that’s a perk: “It is better this way, believe me. When bananas talk, they get all these ideas in their stems about equality and fair treatment. Next thing you know, they’re getting the pears involved and from there it’s only a few days until open rebellion. Keep them silent, everyone knows bananas are a bunch of commies.”

If you can put up with your bananas suddenly going silent and the lack of wifi on this device, then the Hutzler 571 is the device that will make your kitchen complete.

Comments

208 responses to “The Hutzler 571… a must for every kitchen.”

  1. What do you do when you end up with anonstandard curve of banana?

    1. mikey

      Yeah, I don’t that works with a Euro-legal banana.

    2. Rasilio

      Cosmetic Surgery?

    3. Bobarian LMD

      Does the gentleman dress to the left… and the right?

      1. jesse.in.mb

        Awww, like @DiphallicDude on Twitter! (NSFW)

  2. Sean

    I…uh…I don’t know what to say about the Hutzler.

    So I’ll go OT, Legion season 2 starts tomorrrow. That and Rachel Keller is cute AF.

  3. mikey

    I read the second testimonial as “I finally came!”

  4. westernsloper

    I don’t eat many bananas. Now if the made a gizmo that shredded pork with no effort I would be all in.

    *ponders new invention

    1. Properly cooked pork shreds with no effort. Clearly the flaw is in your cooking procedure.

      1. Sean

        Yeah. I gotta go with UCS on this one.

      2. westernsloper

        You just set yours on the counter and it shreds itself? Yes, I must be doing it wrong because I have to expel some effort with a couple of forks.

        1. westernsloper

          Actually, I did the last one with my hands. Effort expended none the less.

          1. How are you expecting to expend less effort with an overpriced gadget, unless it’s a complete robot chef, which takes all the fun out of cooking.

    2. jesse.in.mb

      Not actually recommending you buy these because they aren’t enough of an improvement over using forks to warrant the extra kitchen item according to the BF, BUT Amazon has you covered: Meat Claws – Best Bear Claw Pulled Pork Meat Shredders

      BF was also annoyed that I kept flicking them from pointing down to out in front and saying “SHICK SHICK” and then doing the Wolverine swipes.

      1. I don’t know, if I smoked pork fairly often I’d think those would be useful enough to warrant the space.

      2. Caput Lupinum

        My brother in law has a side business doing barbecue catering and has a few of those for when he needs to tear up enough pork to feed 50 people.

        BF was also annoyed that I kept flicking them from pointing down to out in front and saying “SHICK SHICK” and then doing the Wolverine swipes.

        My brother in law has banned me from using them when I help him out barbecuing for shockingly similar reasons.

        1. Tulip

          Hmm, I think I will make pork this weekend.

          1. Timeloose

            I have a set of bear claws. They work much better than forks.

  5. straffinrun

    Clearly racist.

    1. You mean lacist.

      1. Nonsense, a banana would make certain their elocution is properly huwhite.

  6. commodious spittoon

    What I would like is a good mandolin. HOWEVER. I have a pathological aversion to blades. Even imagining cutting myself sets me on edge, to the point at which I’m cringing and cradling my hands against my body as if I can ward off phantom cuts by hiding my fingers. I won’t say it’s debilitating, but it is maddening. I keep my kitchen knives dull because I find it less distressing that way. I’m probably more prone to injury using blunted edges than I would be if I kept them sharp, but it’s not a logical thing to begin with.

    1. You are in greater danger from a dull blade, yes. But I do empathize. I have the same reaction to saws. I’m terrified until I finish whatever single cut I need to make, kill the power and unplug it.

    2. I thought mandolins had strings, not blades.

      1. You’re thinking of the Hunting Mandolin, this is an Assault Mandolin.

    3. Tulip

      Get knife gloves. I don’t know if that’s the actual name, but they are basically fine chain mail. They were included as accessories with my mandolin (it is scary).

      1. commodious spittoon

        That… is ingenious. Thank you! The demonstration photos on Amazon are super triggering, though.

        Also, “knife gloves” sounds like something the Knifeketeer would wear.

        1. Tulip

          I wear them whenever I use the mandolin because….scary. so, I get it.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Cut resistant gloves. Usually made out of Kevlar or another woven fabric. My wife has a pair for using her rotary cutter (pizza cutter with a razor edge) on fabric.

        1. Tulip

          Mine are actually very fine wires woven into the outer layer of gloves. Fine chain mail really is the best description.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            I was reading the wiki entry for cut resistant gloves afterward and saw those. Very interesting.

        2. Old Man With Candy

          Dyneema is even better than Kevlar.

          /fiber geek

    4. You’re right about the dull knives. You’re more likely to cut yourself because you have to use more force and that makes it prone to slippage. Plus, dull knives don’t cut cleanly, which is terrible when you’re cutting tomatoes or boiled eggs, stuff like that.

      I had to learn to respect the mandolin the hard way. I used the guide religiously until one night we had people over grillin’ burgers. I’d had a few and went in to slice some more red onion. I figured, shoot, I’m used to this thing, I won’t cut myself. It’s just a couple slices anyway. It’ll be fine.

      Luckily, I took a paper thin slice off my middle knuckle. The onion juice made it sting like hell and I bled like a stuck pig, because it took about 1/8 inch diameter of skin, but the real damage was to my pride. I have since resumed using the guard.

      1. juris imprudent

        So, it wasn’t a red onion when you started, amirite?

    5. Semi-Spartan Dad

      I tagged myself with a mandolin about a decade ago. Now if I need something sliced that I can’t do myself with a knife, it goes into the food processor.

      Also cut myself good while slicing onions drunk in college using a dull knife. Lesson learned on several fronts there.

  7. Not an Economist

    OT: Bill & Ted may have another excellent adventure!!!

    1. Sean

      Joining the AARP?

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’ll watch it if it’s the original cast and they use dark magick to reanimate George Carlin. Other than that no thanks.

  8. Okay, I need suggestions with two exercise related items.

    First I need something to do to work on forearm strength, because the part of my routine that feels like it’s going to ibjure me isn’t any of the current exercises, but moving the bar between the bracket for squats and floor level for deadlifts (and vice versa). It’s only my forearms that feel like they’re going to give out during this.

    Second, I’m looking for an alternative to the overhead press because my ceilings are too low.

    1. Forearm as in grip strength? Kettlebell swings are really good for it. Farmer carries are good, too.

      As for an alternative to an overhead press…that’s tough. Maybe an incline bench press? The thing is that overhead presses work a bunch of muscles, and getting that same effect would require several exercises, and unfortunately all the ones I can think of involving shoulders and lats and so forth require lifting things over your head.

      1. Tundra

        Brooks nailed it below. Do them seated.

        1. Thanks. Seems obvious in retrospect…

          1. Tundra

            Not really. I prefer standing, too.

            Some stuff for forearms.

      2. Timeloose

        My dad made me a forearm and wrist exerciser. It is a broom handle cut about a foot long with a hole in the middle (at the center) big enough to thread a rope through it. Thread and knot about 3 ft of rope in the handle then tie a dowel or large bolt at the other end of the rope. Add weight plates to the end with the dowel. Then use both hands to wind and unwind up the rope while standing.

    2. Warty

      1. Pick things up. Pick more things up.

      2. Leave your house.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      No one has suggested beating off as a forearm exercise?

      You have to be careful to do equal reps with both arms though. SFW

      1. Threedoor

        Shake weights.

        1. MikeS

          +1 Old Fashioned

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Was too busy doing forearm exercises.

  9. jesse.in.mb

    the lack of wifi on this device

    And you lost me

    1. Tulip

      Ha! I was planning to say the same thing.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Bluetooth is a better option. Better connection and more secure. You don’t want some junk firmware on your Hutzler leading you to have all your IoT devices owned by Russian hackers.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    I prefer my banana guillotine. More dramatic.

    1. juris imprudent
  11. juris imprudent

    The 571? It really took them that many tries to get it right?

    1. Gilmore

      trivia: the Hutzler 570 is a turret-mounted flamethrower. Hutzler 569 was a (sadly, rejected) pickle-flavored gumdrop

  12. Tulip

    I have a little plastic orange peeler and I actually use it. I think got for showing up at a Tupperware party. The foreign grad students were fascinated by the sheer silliness of my needing a tool to peel an orange. But it is really handy!

    1. Tulip

      I think my mom got it… yah I can’t type

    2. I think I’m in the camp with the foreigners. I’m trying to figure out how it would work, since once you get the peel started (which can be done with a knife if your nails aren’t up to it) the process just seems to work.

      Maybe it’s a different tolerence for getting fruit blood on your hands.

      1. Tulip

        Well, you can make the peel come off like petals, and the other end slides under the peel to get all white part off in one go. So you end up with the orange looking a like a flower and the center almost looks like you’ve done supremes. But, he, it is a way to play with your food. And, your fingers don’t get sticky.

        1. MikeS

          Yeah, that thing kicks ass.

          *makes extra stern note to self to steal it from Mom ASAP*

        2. Pope Jimbo
          1. Tulip

            Pfft! My orange art is not constrained by your phallocentric desires.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Hey, you were the one talking about getting all bobbity on oranges with your fancy knife.

      2. jesse.in.mb

        which can be done with a knife if your nails aren’t up to it

        I just bite into the peel a bit.

        1. MikeS

          Monster!

    3. MikeS

      Is it that “stick with a small hook on the end” for lack of a better description? I grew up with one (mom got it for free at a Tupperware party)

      *makes note to steal it next time I’m home*

      1. Tulip

        That’s the one!

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Second, I’m looking for an alternative to the overhead press because my ceilings are too low.

    Do them seated.

    Forearm strength- get an engineer’s hammer and do rotations and flexes with it.

  14. Tundra

    Bananas are too carb-heavy.

    I wonder if it would work on bratwurst…

  15. commodious spittoon
  16. AlmightyJB

    Too much work, I want mine pre-sliced.

    1. Tulip

      I used to use a needle and dental floss to cut the banana in the skin, then open it and the slices fall out. Would blow my nieces’ and nephews’ minds when they were small.

      1. AlmightyJB

        That’s funny. Did you like wave a magic wand over them before you peeled them. Then after you could just point the wand at them to get them to do what you want. You saw what I did to that banana.

        1. Tulip

          I did! I have a battery powered magic wand that when you give it a flick or sorta sharp move, it lights up and makes a “BRRNNNG” noise.

          I also use to wave the wand at my classes the day before a test. College students found me much less cool than my nieces and nephews.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Awesome:)

            “College students found me much less cool”

            What the hell do they know.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Hitachi?

          3. Bobarian LMD

            I have a battery powered magic wand…

            Speaking of forearm exercises…

      2. Pope Jimbo

        If the banana is soft and ripe, you can simply use the needle to cut the banana and leave out the floss.

        Penn & Teller have a trick in their book How to play with your food that has you cut a big orange out of its skin and replace it with a small apple. When you put the skin back and leave it for a few hours it looks remarkably whole. You can then peel the skin of the orange and find an apple inside.

        I did that at work once and it worked perfectly. In the book P&T tell you that the best thing to do after you pull the apple out is to deny everything. That is exactly what I did and it was great. When my buddy said “Holy fuck! How did that apple get in there?” I denied everything. I told him it was crazy to think that my apple came from inside the orange. When he pointed at the peel, I told him that it was from the orange he brought to my office. I can’t believe how good the psychology worked out. He was more mad about me not admitting it was a trick than anything. And when he tried to tell other people in the office about it, he just sounded extra crazy.

        He still gets mad at me to this day when I won’t admit that it was a trick.

        1. Tulip

          Oh, that’s funny!

          1. Pope Jimbo

            I took a pic of the trick.

            It actually was one of the few magic tricks in that whole book that actually was easy and worked as promised. Like I said, the hook is to deny everything. It really does make your friend crazy.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            *bows towards the midwestern pope*

          3. Tundra

            Northern, but yeah.

          4. MikeS

            Upper-Midwestern?

          5. Tundra

            It’s weird. I would call Utah ‘mid-Western’. MInne to me is North Central.

            Fucking cold, either way.

          6. MikeS

            Yeah, I hear ya. When people include states like Ohio and Indiana in the Midwest I just can’t.

          7. Raven Nation

            Some people identify the Great Plains states.

          8. MikeS

            Some people identify the Great Plains states

            I like that geographical definition better because it seems to be used more accurately.

          9. Gustave Lytton

            Stop othering me with you mid-con privilege. I bet your the type to call Texas southwest or Ohio northwest.

            Utah midwest? Maybe intermountain west.

          10. hayeksplosives

            Gaslighting for lunch!

        2. Web Dominatrix

          You’ve given me a goal.

        3. Number.6

          My dog, someone lit the Web Dominatrix signal!

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Too much work, I want mine pre-sliced.

    Pssst- that’s what the orfinks are for.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I don’t speak jive.

  18. AlmightyJB
    1. Chafed

      Christ. He does a really good job of pointing out the circular reasoning.

    2. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

      Yep. I was actually wondering, “Jazz wrote it?”

  19. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t speak jive.

    Or Popeye, I guess.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Well I probably haven’t seen Popeye in damn near 50 years.

  20. Spudalicious

    I’m not a fan of single use kitchen gadgets. But it appears from the comments you can also use it in the bedroom, so I’m interested.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      I don’t think it comes in the fingerling size you’d need. But maybe it’s worth checking Amazon Japan.

      1. Spudalicious

        Nah, it’s scaleable. And based on the track record in comparison to you, personality is definitely more important.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          If by “scalable,” you mean “best stated in millimeters,” well OK, I can see that.

  21. Heroic Mulatto

    Ok, I love Amazon.

    Why don’t you want America to be great again, Webby?

    1. Winston

      Well Bezos did give us WaPo.

      1. MikeS

        Washington Post (D-Amazon)

        1. Would that make it New York Times ((((D))))?

          1. MikeS

            I thought it was (((Mainstream Media)))?

        1. Raven Nation

          Zach Weismuller solemnly disagrees (trigger warning, TOS): http://reason.com/reasontv/2017/08/31/what-the-alt-right-gets-wrong

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        ‘Pravda on the Potomac’ was around long before Bezos.

        1. Winston

          And since he hasn’t changed it I assume that means he approves of it.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            That was in reply to your “Bezos did give us WaPo”. Just pointing out that it’s been around for a long time.

          2. Winston

            Sorry I should have said Bezos is *now* giving us WaPo. I am aware that it predates him by quite some time.

    2. Winston

      Also the Interstates and the Internet were developed by the MIC and subsidies/ Left-Libertarian hat on

  22. The Late P Brooks

    have a battery powered magic wand that when you give it a flick or sorta sharp move, it lights up and makes a “BRRNNNG” noise.

    Mmm-hmmmm.

    *nods slowly*

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Anything can be that kind if you’re brave enough.

  23. Heroic Mulatto

    1. Threedoor

      Which one is the chicken of the sea again?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        The one with the dolphin mixed in with it.

        1. Threedoor

          I’d love to try some of that. I’ve heard from Florida Man that manatee is amazing.

    1. SP

      Not. Clicking.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Click. It 100% isn’t goatse. Would I lie to you?

        1. SP

          No, of *course* not, love of my life.

          /snickers

      2. Raven Nation

        I’ve been consuming Powers Irish Whiskey and so clicked. It’s actually pretty tame.

        1. MikeS

          Possibly the tamest thing he’s ever posted

      3. Heroic Mulatto

        No risk, no reward.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          That was almost a waste of an incognito window.

          1. SP

            Damnit. I *do* trust you.

            /hovers mouse over HM link

          2. jesse.in.mb

            That seems foolish.

      4. Web Dominatrix

        It’s actually really amusing.

    2. Raven Nation

      And, I followed youtube links to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5z7cYSbsFU

      1. PudPaisley

        I love LSD. Been a big fan of theirs for a long time. Glad to see them get a bunch of recognition in recent years.

        Raven, was that you who posted about John Scofield a while back? If so, you might like some of this live album with him and Gov’t Mule. Kind of a jazz / blues / jammy fusion. Here’s a sample. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmXOVyJSsTI

      2. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

        Pass on hipster,,, stuff. I’ll take this version

    3. Tundra

      It’s kind of nice, really.

      1. SP

        Like I’m going to trust *you*.

      2. hayeksplosives

        How was the snow today? As bad as forecast?

    4. I love that song.

  24. Winston

    http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2018/04/02/a-deepening-dictatorship-promises-a-grim-future-for-china/

    In classroom and casual discussions, I often encounter variations on the idea that while ‘the West’ today is caught up in messy political infighting, filibusters and deadlocked democratic processes, ‘the Chinese’, with their ‘pragmatism’, have things all figured out.

    According to this comforting narrative, China’s top-down model supposedly enables the government to master economic growth, or to re-direct resources to beneficial causes like combating climate change or poverty. Perhaps rather than simply criticising dictatorship, there is something we can learn from it, or so the narrative goes.

    Yet the Chinese government’s top-down dictatorial efficiency is easily deployed toward ends both beneficial and harmful. This celebrated decisiveness and efficiency, which over the past year has led some to misrecognize Xi as a defender of globalisation or environmentalism, can also be mustered to decisively and efficiently disappear critics, or to abolish the last effective checks on Xi’s powers. The manifold declarations of the current ‘crisis of democracy’ overlook the fact that democracies have the institutional checks to manage such crises, which dictatorships lack.

    At least Cato sees through the bullshit… Oh wait

    https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/how-deal-newly-empowered-xi-jinping

    Indeed, America’s leaders, if they deserve to be called that, should start by rescuing the U.S. political system from laughing-stock status. Compare presidents and America loses. By all appearances, President Xi is serious, determined, and competent; he knows both privilege and hardship; he even lived in America, now his country’s chief adversary. Today he dominates one of the world’s most formidable political systems. Even Chinese inclined toward democracy have trouble defending the American system these days.

    The operation of Congress, too, fails to live up to what the world’s most powerful nation requires. The democratically elected U.S. body should easily outdistance China’s rubber-stamp National People’s Congress, but the inability of American legislators of both parties to work effectively with each other also seems to discredit America’s democratic experiment.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      I did this before, but since this quote is also a repeat…

      You know else was a serious, determined, and competent murderous dictator of a bloody regime based on an immoral political philosophy?

      1. Number.6

        The Glibertarians.com Board of Directors?

        1. jesse.in.mb

          Competent?

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Serious?

          2. Bobarian LMD

            Determined?

          3. Number.6

            was?

      2. MikeS

        Oprah?

      3. Winston

        Stalin?

      4. Number.6

        Ron Popeil?

      5. CPRM

        Doctor Claw?

        1. Winston

          Next Time!

      6. Bobarian LMD

        The Brain?

        Narf.

        1. Winston

          Troz!

  25. CPRM

    I’d like to see the infomercial where they guy can’t cut the banana.

  26. Winston

    Jacobin mag on the LP

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/11/libertarian-party-gary-johnson-ron-paul-president

    The Libertarian Party’s opposition to war and foreign intervention, hostility to the ever-expanding US surveillance state, and advocacy for decriminalizing things like drug use and prostitution stand in stark contrast to the Democrats’ tepid-at-best support for such positions. It’s not hard to see why Johnson’s run has piqued the interest of some disaffected Sanders voters looking for an alternative to Clinton and Trump’s militaristic policies.

    But a vote for the Libertarian Party is a vote for much more than ending the war on drugs.

    It’s a vote for a far-right, free market agenda that places property rights over democratic rights. Today and throughout its history, the party (and its at times quite noxious standard-bearers) has pushed an array of regressive, pro-corporate policies on poverty reduction, environmental protection, labor rights, regulation, and a whole host of other issues.

    In fact, on many of these issues, the Libertarian Party is far more extreme than even Clinton and Trump.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Shorter: “freedom is slavery”

    2. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

      WTFuck are “democratic rights”?

      Anyone….?

      1. hayeksplosives

        The ones that the majority of wolves decide the sheep can have?

  27. Old Man With Candy

    General question: there was a Mark Zuckerberg quote today about Tim Cook which struck me as a perfect motto/tagline for the Glibs. Should we put it on the heading part?

    “Extremely glib and not at all aligned with the truth”

    1. Number.6

      I thought it was pretty appropriate.

      1. Homple

        Works for both of ’em.

    2. CPRM

      I just got an alignment, so I’m spot on with the truth.

    3. CPRM

      I think this Zuckerberg quote fits us better “A squirrel dying in front of your house may be more relevant to your interests right now than people dying in Africa.”

    4. Heroic Mulatto

      We can pay Big Man Tyrone to say that for us.

      1. Winston

        Power? Or Flight of the Earls or Long Day’s Journey into Night?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Nothing so erudite.

          Something better.

          1. Winston

            What would Dave Bowman say?

  28. CPRM

    Now I have to listen to the shitty post game show. Get your damn 4 commercial breaks in and get me outta here in a half hour Westwood one!

    1. CPRM

      Seriously, who listens to all this postgame babbling?

  29. Winston

    So Man City or Man United?

  30. hayeksplosives

    First day at work lasted 12 hours. I hope this isn’t the new norm. Although I had to start at 7:30 to through 4 hours of HR orientation, and then the rest was a whole a lot of introductions and meetings and brainstorming. And my main coworker is a big talker. Fortunately he’s also brilliant so I am at least learning a lot.

    I feel kind of guilty because they gave me a fucking nice office just because it was the most available one. It’s bigger than the guy with 10 years of seniority over me. But I also know he got a fat check for referring me, so I might be able to live with myself. 🙂

    1. SP

      I hope this isn’t the new norm.

      I hope not, too.

      Since we’ve been together, OMWC has never had a job that wasn’t *at least* 12 hour days. Even weekends, “vacation days” etc. It never stops.

      1. CPRM

        Plus all the hours he spends sitting in front of schools.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          At least the panel van is kitted out with nice amenities though.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            The water-bed is nice 70’s chic.

          2. hayeksplosives

            Sculpted carpet half-way up the walls too, I hope.

            Though harder to get the evidence out, I reckon.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Trace or source?

      2. hayeksplosives

        They told me the engineers usually start at 9:30, not 7:30, so 10 hours now and then isn’t so bad, especially if I can be close to work.

        I think today went long because a few of us ended up having a brainstorming and “getting to know you” session at the end of the day, and then I spent another hour in my office trying to see if my accounts were set up, etc.

        1. CPRM

          “then I spent another hour in my office trying to see if my accounts were set up” You can be honest, you were testing the firewall.

          1. hayeksplosives

            So far, I intend to leave my Glibertarian visits strictly on personal devices, since they tell you right up front they monitor email and computer use whenever they damn well please at work.

            In light of that, hard to believe my coworker’s rather colorful and unvarnished opinions expressed over email of what we’re doing wrong.

    2. CPRM

      Brainstorming on blowing stuff up or keeping stuff from blowing up?

      1. hayeksplosives

        Blowing stuff up and figuring out multi uses for some of the support systems we’ll have to install to make it work. It was pretty cool.

      2. Winston

        Any splosives on MUH ROADZ?

        1. hayeksplosives

          Not that I know of. Had to leave all my ammo behind.

          Did meet another big 2nd Amendment fan today. 😀 We were introduced by my talkie coworker who fielded my workplace/cali culture questions early in the process. He assured me I’d fit right in. So far he’s right.

  31. Number.6

    And the hits keep on coming!

    It’s interesting why this issue is being pushed so hard. It’s almost like someone might be paying the Fail to ensure that comparisons can be made. After all, it’s not a very great increase in violence.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Tottenham Hotlead.

      1. Homple

        Well done, well done indeed.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Boston police commissioner William B. Evans said in a Monday statement the decision ‘sends a strong and definitive message that police officers are not above the law.

      Suspended without pay, but doesn’t seem to have been fired so far.

    2. Chafed

      I’m guessing the cop grew up in or currently lives in Southie. And if either is right then you nailed it HM.

  32. Winston

    Interesting leftist critique of Jacobin and Marxism

    https://areomagazine.com/2017/07/05/jacobin-is-for-posers/

    We now know that race, nationality, and religion do, in fact, divide the proletariat, preventing the formation of working class consciousness. We know that the most socially active classes are generally the propertied and relatively independent middle classes, historically farmers, perhaps students today. Even working class consciousness in England, one of the strongest such examples, is now understood as a historic accident rather than the product of inevitable and generalizable forces. If Marxists no longer believe that history is driven by the economic interests of defined and conscious classes, in what sense are they Marxists? What does Marxism contribute to our understanding of the world?

    …..

    The example of socialism in practice should have long since banished to the dustbin of history this presumption that all social ills can naturally be attributed to a particular social system. If Manalastas is concerned with the abuses of bourgeois rule of law, does he long for a return to the arbitrary retribution of the Gulag? Jacobin routinely attributes “Islamophobia” to a system of capitalist imperialism. Do they not remember that Marx derided religion as the “opium of the people?” Have they forgotten that Stalin shuttered Mosques or that Al-Qaeda was born in the struggle against Soviet intolerance? Even today, France has taken the radical step of banning burqas under the leadership of a Socialist Party committed to secularism. When all human history had been defined by class society, it was possible to attribute the world’s intractable problems to that system. Now we have “seen the future” and should know that some social ills have deep roots—that certain struggles are destined to stretch into the eternal darkness of men’s souls.

    ….

    But today there is neither a particularly clear division between the bourgeois and proletariat nor even any certitude that one is necessarily more oppressed than the other. According to Marx, West Virginia dirt farmers and street peddlers are the capital-owning bourgeoisie — or at least the “petit bourgeoise” that he believed would have long since have died out. Meanwhile, professional athletes and high level executives, both wage earners, are members of the revolutionary proletarian. Since Marx’s epoch concluded, corporations became the dominate form of economic organization. These limited the role of bourgeois entrepreneurs, making the dominate class in business wage earning managers and executives. On the other hand, the emergent “precariat” is often property owning and entrepreneurial. Uber drivers own the means of production (automobiles) and work as independent contractors. Jacobin itself has highlighted the development of a large class of precariously employed third world entrepreneurs sponsored by microfinance. In a modern age of economic uncertainty, a steady salary seems like an aristocratic perquisite rather than a marker of subjugation. Added to that, most people today seem at least, if not more, concerned by rent than their relationship to capital. However, businesses rent, creating a community of interest between capital and young workers of all employment statuses, oftentimes against working class old-timers who use NIMBYism to make the state a partner in land speculation.

    1. hayeksplosives

      We’re all entitled to our alternative facts. 😉

      1. Chafed

        HS I’d say you are up late but… I guess not so much since you are a left coaster now.

        1. hayeksplosives

          Yup. About time for bed though.

          I am glad that my assumptions that these guys would start at 7am so they could have more overlap with colleagues in the rest of the US timezones was wrong. I will probably still start at 8 tomorrow, depending on when I wake up. But I will adjust if every work day goes late.

  33. Derpetologist

    extra early link

    Boy, 13, running for governor of Vermont

    ***
    A candidate seeking the Democratic nomination for Vermont governor is facing a unique set of challenges due to one simple factor — he’s only 13.

    Ethan Sonneborn, a Bristol eighth grader facing two challengers for the Democratic nomination in the August primary, has made gun control a centerpiece of his campaign since he announced his political ambitions last year.

    “My generation has been taking an important step in this because we’re the ones were getting shot,” Sonneborn told WPTZ-TV. “This affects us directly and people who say it can’t happen in Vermont, we came this close to it happening in Vermont. It will happen in Vermont if we don’t take action.”

    Sonneborn acknowledged gun control laws could be a tough sell amid New England’s hunting culture.

    “It’s a culture that I respect,” he told CNN. “But if it’s making the decision between letting my friends have a good time at a firing range and them possibly being involved in a school shooting, I’m choosing legislation to protect them from that school shooting.”
    ***

    The adults behind this ridiculous stunt ought to be ashamed of themselves.

    18 year olds shouldn’t be allowed to buy rifles but 13 year olds should be allowed to be elected governors?

    1. westernsloper

      It keeps gun control in the headlines, like they need another thing to keep gun control in the headlines.

  34. Derpetologist

    this is tolerance?

    ***
    A family-owned bridal shop in Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania closed its doors after enduring more than three years of hate mail and death threats.

    The W.W. Bridal Boutique shut down on March 31 after a firestorm of controversy erupted over their policy to refuse to serve same-sex weddings.

    “It’s been very hard on my family especially with the threats against the children,” co-owner Lisa Boucher said on the Todd Starnes Radio Show. “The hate has been overwhelming.”

    “They actually attacked our children – saying they were going to burn our store down. They wanted us to be raped. They wanted our children to be raped. They wanted us to have bullets in our head,” she said.

    The trouble started in 2014 when a same-sex couple inquired about wedding attire.

    “We told her we were not serving same sex couples due to our religious beliefs,” Ms. Boucher said.

    Within a day the local news media got wind of the story and soon local activists tried to pass a non-discrimination ordinance. That effort failed.

    Last year another same-sex couple traveled nearly two hours to the tiny boutique – and again – the owners declined to violate their conscience.

    Within seconds of the couple leaving the store, Ms. Boucher said they were bombarded with hate mail and telephone calls. And the town is on the verge of attempting to pass another non-discrimination rule.
    ***

    https://www.toddstarnes.com/show/christian-owned-bridal-shop-closes-after-death-threats/

  35. DOOMco

    I don’t need it
    I don’t need it