Tuesday Morning Links

I just want to start off by saying that I enjoy deep dish. Hell, I will go out of my way to find it today (Geno’s) and have some.  But I ain’t calling it pizza because its not.  Just as Dr Pepper isn’t a cola and Bruce Jenner isn’t a woman. Sorry, some things are truths.

Hey look! There’s still sports going on even after the armageddon-like weekend of college basketball.  Of course, if you wanted me to give recaps on the Women’s NCAA Tournament, you’re about to be disappointed. But if you were hoping for a down-the-stretch hockey update, then you’re in luck! There were five games on the slate last night. The Blue Jackets topped the Bruins in OT. The Predators blanked the Sabres. The Kings topped the MINNESOOOOOODA WIIIIIIIIILD!!!! in OT as well. The Panthers dumped Les Canadiens. And the Flames were doused by the woeful Coyotes.

So let’s take a look at the standings, shall we? In the Wales Conference, Tampa Bay has locked up a playoff spot and has a 3 pt lead over Boston but has played an extra game.  They’re trailed by the Maple Leafs. The Washington Capitals lead their division, with the Pens and Flyers close on their heels. Not that it’ll matter come playoff time when they lose to a lower seed. And the Wild Card race is pretty hot even though it only contains three teams. Currently, the Blue Jackets and Devils hold the two spots with the Panthers 3 its back of the Devils but with two extra games to play. Everybody else is pretty much playing out the string and the Red Wings, losers of 10 in a row, will soon join the Sabres as mathematically unable to make the playoffs.

Over in the Campbell Conference, The Predators, Jets and MINNESOOOOOOODA WIIIIIIILD are cruising in in their division, while the Army/Las Vegas Black/Golden Knights, Sharks and Kings are currently in.  The two wild card spots, held by the Avalanche (who have a game in hand) and the Anaheim Mighty Ducks are sitting on the same point total as LA, with Dallas and St Louis nipping at their heels.  Should be a hell of a fun 2 weeks and change. The Canucks and Coyotes are already eliminated and should soon be joined by the Oilers and the Blackha….wtf? Yes, by the Blackhawks. Sorry, Swissy.

There’s probably something I missed in there, so I expect to be corrected in the comments. Or at least challenged. But that’s cool.  And anyway, its time for me to stop worrying about sports and start thinking about what I’m gonna put in…the links!

Harvey Weinstein and friend

Sometimes people get what they deserve. Can’t say this makes me sad. The culture there was akin to a beehive, where everyone was expected to serve the queen (in this case, the king), even sacrificing their personal beliefs or morals in order to advance their career. OK, so not exactly like a beehive except for the everyone serving part. But seriously, they know they were doing little more than satisfying the sexual idiosyncrasies of a perverted dickhead and they knew they were often sacrificing the physical safety of innocent women in order to do so, and in return they were financially rewarded.  They all deserve to never get a job in Hollywood again, unless its selling maps to the houses of the people they served up to their disgusting pig of a boss.

SXSW bomb threat cancels concert amid series of bombings. Meanwhile, a bomb went off in San Antonio’s FedEx center, and FBI officials say it may be linked to the events in Austin. Meanwhile, with little known about the bombings or bomber, President Trump pledges support for the people working on the case and for the victims (and is promptly called a racist by “leaders” in the black and latino communities). Meanwhile, the NAACP and CBC, also armed with little to no information, called on officials to classify it terrorism and to make sure they find out the motivation of the bomber since its allegedly targeting black and latino communities (except the FedEx location, obviously).

Look out Northern California. here comes some more global warming for ya! This is gonna end up being one hell of a winter for precipitation. And you can thank the good people over at Global Warming, Inc for it…but only if it causes some destruction. And when it doesn’t rain for two months straight, as its prone to do there since the dawn of time, you can also blame global warming for the “drought”. But only if it has a negative effect on crops. If it raises yields, it’ll just be due to sheer luck that the global warming didn’t cause the levels of precipitation to be even higher…or lower…depending on what’s needed to extract more money from taxpayers and transfer it to politically-connected shitheads. And not to be outdone, Old Man Winter is prepared to pay the Chowderheads a visit.

The most corrupt pol in Chicago, yet above the law?

Wow, what an interesting coincidence. There’s a laundry list of coincidences that seem to follow Brown around. Yet she’s slicker than a greased pig when it comes to her being prosecuted.  Ooh, I know! Let’s have a special prosecutor charge her with “Conspiracy Against The United States” with nothing else attached to it. That ought to work.

Crazy man does crazy thing and dies. Dude had quite the arrest record. Perhaps he should have received a mental evaluation at some point in his recent past rather than a dragnet which spooked him into jumping in a freezing river while butt nekkid.

SEA SMITH SAY GOODBYE TO FRIEND ONE LAST TIME. COMMIT HER TO BOWELS OF THE DEEP BLUE SEA.

Don’t even ask how I picked this song. Its a mystery to me too. But now I want to go see what Winona Ryder is up to.

Well that about does it for the links.  Hope y’all have a nice day.

Comments

548 responses to “Tuesday Morning Links”

  1. DiegoF

    I’m Poppy.

    1. Hey, I’m Poppy too!

      1. DiegoF

        Ooo, what is this?

        1. bacon-magic

          I pop in the pan

          1. Chipwooder

            Beats pooping in the pan

    2. Warty

      Well hello there, kink I didn’t realize I had.

      1. Right? Between her and blonde, thicccc fairy, I’m learning new things about myself and growing as a person.

    1. DiegoF

      Indeed, Chicago’s plight is enough to make any noble, stoic Sicilian-American shed a manly tear.

    2. The Other Kevin

      It’s going to be tough not having a team to root for in the next 4 months of playoffs.

  2. RegicidalManiac

    Chicago, man. There’s a reason I call it Crook County.

    1. I understand deep dish pizza is very big in Chicagoland

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Not really. Same size as everywhere else, usually 9 or 12 inches diameter.

        1. Los Doyers

          BOO THIS MAN

  3. Slammer

    I looked at the picture and thought it was JAMES Brown

      1. Chipwooder

        AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

    1. DiegoF

      Close but the hair is off. O’Reilly was right; Maxine Waters pulled that shit off so well it was eerie.

  4. Bacon in boots.

    That’s about as far as I got before the day job interrupted me.

    1. Not true. You made it all the way to the “Post Comment” button.

      1. *opera applause*

      2. I said interrupted, I came back to post the comment.

        I also didn’t think of anything witty to remark on the links while I passed them. My mind was on installing software.

        1. Los Doyers

          Were you backing up your data before you pushed a big update on yourself?

          1. Filesystem snapshots are much faster.

    2. bacon-magic

      Bacon is not bland

      1. Perhaps you might rethink your misconceptions about my tastes.

        1. TK

          This is just… really fucked up.

    3. bacon-magic

      Those are work boots!

  5. straffinrun

    Brown says there’s “no correlation” between money given to her campaign and jobs.

    It was a Harvey style transaction?

    1. *projectile vomits*

      1. straffinrun

        Hey, I just saw that pearl necklace and put two and two together.

          1. Are you sure you’re all right, you seem a little ill today.

          2. Slammer

            *sprays Swiss in face with Soda Siphon*

          3. TK

            *draws a penis on Swiss’ forehead*

          4. Finally, someone acts as I would expect here!

    2. Chipwooder

      So there was a potted plant involved?

  6. Old Man With Candy

    Brown says there’s “no correlation” between money given to her campaign and jobs.

    “I’m a Christian woman.” Oh wait, that was Donna Brazile. But have you ever seen the two together? Hmmmm?

    1. straffinrun

      I’ll say it. If she lost about a buck fifty, she’d be hot.

      1. DiegoF

        Lord have mercy.

      2. Chafed

        You think that will cure her excessive sweating?

  7. straffinrun

    It was unclear why Bryant was running naked.

    Remove the mosaic and you’ll see.

    1. C. Anacreon

      For psych ER patients I’ve seen, running naked in public was a common presenting cause.

  8. DiegoF

    The assessment about the deep dish pizza hits the nail on the head. It is a delicious cheese casserole.

    I have never seen what the debate could possibly be about this. It undeniably does not resemble pizza. But it is a pile of salty, gooey greasy ass mozzarella topped with tomato sauce and baked into a bread crust. I.e., it is undeniably delicious.

    I take this so-called “debate” as evidence that motherfuckers just like to argue for the sake of arguing. Smart phones have ruined the traditional factive bar argument, so now all we have left is shit like this.

    1. just like to argue for the sake of arguing

      Do not!

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Flanders: Well this is a dill-y of a pickle. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

        Krabapple: I don’t agree to that!

        Skinner: Neither do I!

        1. robc

          I hate the phrase “agree to disagree” and the people who use it even more.

          1. It does not address the issue, does not even work towards reconciliation, and the speaker sounds insultingly smug.

          2. DiegoF

            As a social tool, I think it’s really just a way of changing the subject immediately, of signaling that you wish to exit the topic and no longer wish to discuss it and don’t want to bother crafting a custom “retreat” or “transition” suited to the particular situation. It’s such a powerfully bad one, though, that it’s astounding that it’s lasted this long. It never leaves the other person feeling good, always mildly condescended to, like suggesting that the speaker is the better man.

          3. I prefer “we’re at an impasse, so fuck off with your stupid idea and we’ll both move on with our lives”. Sure its a bit wordy, but it really captures the situation.

          4. I use “Whatevs”

          5. Suthenboy

            We will have to…uh….you know.

    2. Poppycock. If it looks like a duck, and tastes like a duck, it’s not a Cornish game hen.

      1. But it doesn’t look the part.

        1. Thing is, it does look like a duck.

          1. You’d probably lump geese in with ducks, as both have feathers and a bill.

          2. We’re just going to have to agree to disagree.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          SIV?

    3. Slammer

      Another debate is the most important flavor part of the pizza. For me it’s the sauce, and I always argue with the cheese people

      1. This is where you’re wrong.

        There is no one ‘most important’ component. If any one if wrong, it drags the others down.

        1. WTF

          Yes, there needs to be a proper balance between sauce, cheese, and toppings.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          Yes, there is.

          The dough.

          Mess that up and you got yourself a piece of crap.

          1. WTF

            This too.

      2. DiegoF

        Now that’s a debate! Though I might agree with you, because for standard American style mozz I think as long as it’s not that ultra cheap dollar-slice Manhattan shite, quality of cheese itself is always pretty damn solid; whereas sauce is more of an art form that varies from chef to chef. So, “most important”? Yeah, sauce over cheese by that metric. Though really, crust. And the real art, of course, is the preparation.

        It’s relative quantity that makes me a cheese man. A standard American slice should be gooey with cheese, crusty but tender on the inside crust, and fairly sparse with the sauce.

      3. invisible finger

        This is probably why the people who hate deep dish hate it.

        The sauce for deep dish is not supposed to be the same as the sauce for thin crust. Most lazy-ass pizza restaurants get this wrong, so the places with great thin crust usually have shitty deep dish and the places with great deep dish usually have crummy thin crust.

        1. DiegoF

          Oooh! What is the difference? I have noticed it, but what exactly is it?

    4. Mustang

      Wha’dya say?

      *Staggers upright, swings fist, falls over again*

    5. Evan from Evansville

      Casseroles are served in a glass/plastic/what-you-container. It isn’t served inside a bread-y crust that contains itself and can be used to pick up and manipulate an individual slice.

      No, indeed, However, a food product known as pizza is. QED.

      Speaking of pizza. Today at the store they had “Pizza Dolce al Cioccolato.” On the box: “Thin & Crispy Sweet Pizza: with chocolate sauce and three kinds of chocolate.”

      Made me want to wretch. We can all agree that that sure ain’t pizza.

      1. So anything served in an edible container is no longer that thing? Got it.

        1. Evan from Evansville

          No, you misunderstand.

          I think deep dish IS pizza. Clearly it is. The able-to-pick-it-up crust is one of the qualifications a dish needs to check if it is going to be pizza. The deep dish I like (think Giordano’s) absolutely fulfills the qualifications.

          I admit that I think it starts to cross the cladistic line when it has to be eaten with utensils.

          1. No, I understand what you said, you’re just wrong.

          2. You can pick up a slice of pie and eat it like a slice of pizza.

          3. Exactly.

            ::picks up tostada Mexican pizza and takes a bite::

          4. Of course if the crumbly crust disintegrates? What say youa?

          5. Evan from Evansville

            No, I believe that there are limitations on the type of sauce/toppings that you can add and still call it pizza.

            Dessert isn’t pizza. It’s also true that only psychopaths eat pie by picking it up. That’s like the first thing they do. People start doing that then you better god damn well believe that they’re gonna start cuddling up to dead ruminant real fucking fast.

            I’m ok with white pizza (sigh…inb4 racist….so so racist….) and I’m cool with green or other pestos.

            Dough with chocolate on it is not pizza. The shit that they sell here as pizza is really fucking pushing it: Corn, sweet potatoes, shrimp, mayo….ugh. I admit that, like abortion and how many weeks it takes fetus–>baby, I find it hard to draw a bright line. I don’t think one exists.

            I do agree with Rufus that the dough is one of the chief qualifications in order for something to be pizza. Pie crust is absolutely in no way the same as pizza crust.

            (On a more serious note, I think our love of arguing something so stupid is that we all feel the need to back up our beliefs with reason— we get pushed and ridiculed so often that we have to hone our arguments for ourselves and others. It carries over into silly territory.

            Do not dare tell me that the American League is Real Baseball, for instance.)

          6. Debating over topics such as culinary cladistics is mostly a fun sideline. We know no one is going to change their opinion because we inform them of the correct classification schema, and there’s a limit to how much rage and vitriol will be spilled over the matter.

            Nobody left will be flouncing out of here over their casseroles.

          7. straffinrun

            I’ve been silent on the pizza debates. I don’t care. I eat the crust, the cheese, the whole fucking thing.

          8. Old Man With Candy

            Dessert isn’t pizza.

            So if a pizza-shaped object has peaches and blue cheese, is it a pizza?

          9. pizza-shaped object has peaches and blue cheese

            I would eat the shit out of this. I would also eat the shit out of figs and Gorgonzola.

          10. WTF

            Fresh figs, cut in half, topped with gorgonzola, wrapped with a slice of prosciutto and briefly crisped in a hot oven.

      2. DiegoF

        Made me want to wretch

        Presumably not as much as St. Louis style pizza.

      3. straffinrun

        Wanted to ask you if you’ve ever seen slippers for shoes in Korea. I saw them for the first time today and had to take the picture.

        1. Evan from Evansville

          Wait….like what? It’s hard to tell the material on those.

          At work I think I am the only teacher who doesn’t keep a pair of croc-like slip-ons like those. They don’t wear them outside (I don’t think) but they’re not made out of fabric. They totally could be worn outside.

          These guys are ubiquitous and I rock them all the time.

          I wouldn’t wear them to work or to like going out, but I wear them to walk to my corner market or to smoke all the time.

          *Shrug*

          1. The croc-like shoe is for when one has completely given up on life.

          2. straffinrun

            Ignore Pomp. I have 3 pairs of *Not really* Crocs at three different companies.

          3. Spartacus

            I have a pair of dollar store flip-flops in my office that I wear around work when I don’t have meetings. Then again, this is Florida so that’s pretty common.

      4. Rufus the Monocled

        Pizza nutella. If done well, delicious.

      5. robc

        I dont like casseroles.

        I like deep dish.

        Therefore, deep dish isnt a casserole.

        That doesn’t prove its pizza, but it shoots down one argument against.

        1. WTF

          You don’t like most> casseroles.
          You like deep dish.
          Therefore, you like one type of casserole.

      6. B.P.

        Isn’t deep dish usually eaten with a fork and knife?

      7. commodious spittoon

        I suggested “quichzza” awhile back. It didn’t catch on. How ’bout “open-face calzone”?

    6. Count Potato
  9. The Late P Brooks

    And you can thank the good people over at Global Warming, Inc for it…

    I’m sure Governor Brown will be extending his heartfelt thanks to Koch Industries.

  10. Grumbletarian

    And not to be outdone, Old Man Winter is prepared to pay the Chowderheads a visit.

    This will be the third ‘dump-a-foot-of-snow’ storm in as many weeks. Just in time for the spring equinox.

    1. AlexinCT

      Gaia is mad at the east coast blue states..

  11. wdalasio

    So, aside from not hiring women, what exactly should one do to avoid the whole metoo shitshow? It really doesn’t look like not harassing women employees would do the trick, since their entire ethos is based on the notion that any accusation must be given total credence. And pretty much any work environment that even extends to PG-13 humor puts you on the hook – include them in the humor and it’s harassment, exclude them and it’s discrimination. Tolerate her salty behavior and you’re open to an accusation, forbid it and you’re slut-shaming.

    I don’t have any sympathy for guys who actually do harass women. But, if you’re a guy and thinking of hiring, metoo has made women candidates walking, talking land mines.

    1. straffinrun

      Transition?

    2. So, aside from not hiring women, what exactly should one do to avoid the whole metoo shitshow?

      Install hidden video cameras in every area of the building, including the bathrooms so you know what they’re planning.

      Also so you can sell the footage to perverts in Japan and Germany.

      1. DiegoF

        I’m too much of a pussy ever to teach kids, let alone preschoolers. But right now, I want to–just for the opportunity to institute a classroom convention of calling “Number One” and “Number Two,” “Japan” and “Germany.” Shape a new generation.

        1. B.P.

          This is a fiendishly wonderful plot.

      2. straffinrun

        Scheisse porn is not even a cat. on our pornhub page. Tsk, tsk.

        1. DiegoF

          I think that is a global pornhub rule, and pornhub is a French-Canadian company and they will not be having any of your barbaric Scheisse, Hun. Only classy stuff for them.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Technically, Pornhub is owned by east-end Montreal Italians.

          2. Bobarian LMD

            So… not really that classy?

    3. DiegoF

      This is indeed hard for a morally upright person who cares about bigotry. Because we all know what the morally ruthless answer is: Don’t hire anyone in the target group unless you’re fairly sure they’re gonna be cool. It’s why disabled unemployment is worse now than before the ADA. Protip: When your policy punishes the virtuous, you’re probably doing it wrong.

      1. wdalasio

        This made me think of what crossed my mind as a (marginally evil) potential solution – give preference in hiring to veterans. That skews the candidate pool to safer choices (there are more male than female veterans). And you’re likely to get a little bit better a level fo emotional maturity. And, since veterans themselves are a protected group, no one is going to credibly be able to accuse you of discrimination.

        1. DiegoF

          Oooh, that is an excellent idea! But frankly, it is much easier to defend yourself against an accusation of preferential hiring than deal with litigiousness once someone is hired. You probably don’t have an equally qualified pool of women and men in your field–few are 50-50, except momentarily in time (probably e.g. some medical specialties are at the moment, as they transition to female-dominated)–so it’s not like if you’re “more” male than usual it’s going to stick out like a sore thumb.

    4. trshmnstr

      So, aside from not hiring women, what exactly should one do to avoid the whole metoo shitshow?

      I try to avoid meeting 1 on 1 with women behind closed doors. Especially the ones who have outed themselves as progs.

      I don’t talk politics or participate when others talk politics because I don’t want a vengeful person to target me because of my worldview.

      If it were my choice, our department would have an open door policy for all 2 person mixed gender meetings. Not that anything would happen, but to take away that sliver of credibility from the fake victims.

      I work when I’m with my coworkers, and I tell jokes and talk politics here.

      1. leonadasiv

        I tell Jokes at work, but it’s all Lame Dad jokes.

      2. Chipwooder

        This is the correct answer. Always have witnesses.

      3. A Leap at the Wheel

        This is what I do. I have two coworkers that I’m friendly with and talk politics with, and that’s because we’ve all dropped libertarian or conservative ichthys (we have an incredibly politically diverse and tolerant workplace)

        Our disturbingly competent management also took a recent move as an opportunity to make sure each of our new individual offices and conference rooms have a giant glass wall that faces a populated public area. Just, you know, 100% coincidentally without mentioning it to anyone.

    5. AlmightyJB

      “what exactly should one do to avoid the whole metoo shitshow?”

      Hire people who behave like adults?

      1. AlexinCT

        That would disqualify most of the people I have had to work with throughout my life….

  12. The Late P Brooks

    Last night, the NBC teevee coverage of the MuderUber prominently featured footage of cops examining a bicycle at the scene. Was this woman a “pedestrian” or a “bicycist”? Does it matter? Not really, other than as an anomalous input which might have slipped through the cracks of the machine’s perception.

    Disclaimer: I am not as zealous in my dislike of self-navigating vehicles as the late, unlamented (by me, anyway) commenter John. But I just cannot help wondering whether “machine intelligence” is ready for prime time. Even with the application of overwhelming brute force computing, the world is really really fucking hard to model.

    1. Knowing developers, the response to such an event is to blame the pedestrian/cyclist for misusing their product and insist on more stringant pedestrian/cyclist controls to prevent access to the workspace.

    2. Stillhunter

      Or track down some facts (not a 30 second news clip) and find the woman veered into traffic outside the crosswalk while walking her bike. Even the cop said it was likely unavoidable either way. Upwards of 40k are killed by people driving cars each year (pedants: haven’t looked recently and obviously there are many fewer cars driven by computers than people). That said, I tend to agree they are obviously not ready for prime time yet.

      1. robc

        My comment from a few weeks ago probably stands here. The problem isn’t with the car or even with the pedestrian, it is probably with the road design.

        Streets should be 25 mph or less. Roads 55 mph or more. The problem is with the tweeners, and they should never exist.

        Stroads are dangerous and financially destructive (expensive to build and maintain and with negative ROI in most cases).

        1. DiegoF

          Should everything in NYC, other than the expressways, be a street? Should all roads everywhere be limited-access? Always wondered about this anti-stroad business; how old is this knowledge anyway?

          1. robc

            Should everything in NYC, other than the expressways, be a street?

            Pretty much, there might be a non-expressway road, but in NYC, I doubt it. (I am not an expert on NYC at all).

            Should all roads everywhere be limited-access?

            Minimal access, not necessary limited like with on and off ramps. Especially in rural areas, roads have farmhouse and etc entrances, but they dont slow speeds down. In cities, it is similar, there may be turn-offs and even the odd light here or there, but they should be minimal in number.

            Always wondered about this anti-stroad business; how old is this knowledge anyway?

            I picked it up from strongtowns.org. I heard the founder on EconTalk about 3-4 years ago and some of his stuff made sense to me. He has libertarian leanings. A lot of the site is written by leftists, so I like being the voice for hard libertarianism in the comment sections.

            The basic tenet of the site is that city’s should be financially strong, and that most of the 20th century was building unsustainable infrastructure. Detroit is not an outlier, they are just first.

          2. robc

            I have no idea what I thought the city was possessing.

            cities. ugh.

        2. Gadfly

          Streets should be 25 mph or less. Roads 55 mph or more. The problem is with the tweeners, and they should never exist.

          There are different design philosophies on speed limits, but one of the ones that is often used is: put it at what the average person travels. This would make your idea untenable, as people will likely travel 30-40 mph on any large street, turning them into one of your hated “tweeners”. The only ways to control speed and keep it slow are few and narrow lanes or/and speed bumps. Any street with many/wide lanes and without speed bumps will see traffic in excess of 30mph. Now, tweeners could be made safer by a more stringent control of access (i.e. determining where driveways are allowed), but that would make them less convenient, so they are here to stay.

          1. robc

            Street design for proper speeds is one of the things discussed on strongtowns.

            Wide street that encourage driving 30-40 are misdesigned.

            The idea is that streets are destinations: they are for businesses and offices and homes and etc, and they should be accessible by cars and pedestrians and bikes and are shared spaces that dont need fast speeds.

            Roads are for rapidly getting cars from one place to another place. They are connectors between these places where we have streets.

            Getting rid of currently existing tweeners is hard. But we can start by not building more.

            My libertarian solution is to do it via privatization. Let the *OA (Home, Business, Mixed-Use owners association) own and maintain their streets in their small district. When the long term financial cost of the streets belongs to the businesses along them, the 6 lanes with a light every block behemoth stroads will naturally go away.

          2. You only say that because you want to tax the roads.

          3. robc

            One advantage of a land tax over a property tax is that the parking lot gets taxed the same as the high rise office building on the same size plot of land next door.

          4. You have a strange definition of ‘advantage.’

          5. Gadfly

            When the long term financial cost of the streets belongs to the businesses along them, the 6 lanes with a light every block behemoth stroads will naturally go away.

            I disagree that this would happen, and it’s part of why I don’t think the large streets will go away. Businesses like customers to be able to get to them in volume and quickly, and that’s what the large streets do. A bunch of small/slow streets means very little volume of traffic moved, and I know the idea is to have these small/slow streets served by large/fast roads, but if the large fast roads have frequent street access they have just turned back into your despised large/fast streets. It may sound good in theory, but I’m having a hard time imagining how you would design a convenient system without the mid-tier street/roads.

          6. robc

            Businesses like customers to be able to get to them in volume and quickly, and that’s what the large streets do.

            It depends on the business…in most cases, slow moving active streets are very good for the businesses along them. Big box stores are like that, but they aren’t paying for the road.

            When you arent paying for the road, you just want volume. If you are paying for it, their is a cost/benefit analysis and things changed. I am not sure they would entirely go away, and I am okay with that…I am a libertarian after all, I don’t want to legislate them out of existence. But what I dont want is the city subsidizing the transportation. If the c/b analysis says build a stroad, then so be it. But it wouldnt.

            There is a long term liability involved in building and maintaining wide streets that does not pay off and is bankrupting cities.

          7. robc

            Big box stores are like that, but they aren’t paying for the road.

            What that is supposed to say is that big box stores want what you say.

          8. Gadfly

            I guess it would depend on the area. My view is probably biased in favor of large/fast roads and big box stores because that’s what dominates where I live – Texas suburbia. It works really well, but then we also have lots of space so it’s no big deal if our roads are oversized, and people being spread out also mean few people walk anywhere. The streets/roads concept you describe might work perfectly in a cramped northeastern city, and as you say a libertarian perspective would allow the chips to fall where they may.

          9. Cramped Northeast Cities are awful

            /City-dwelling Northeasterner.

          10. trshmnstr

            It works really well, but then we also have lots of space so it’s no big deal if our roads are oversized

            The problem that we found (and one of the main reasons we left Dallas) is that the commute gets wildly unpredictable once you get swallowed up by the city. When I had to commute downtown, it could be anywhere Between 45 minutes and 2 hours each way, depending on where the crashes happened that day. When I had to commute across the northern suburbs, it was more predictable, but still had a half hour of variability depending on where the idiots collided that day.

            12 lane superhighways make stupid people do stupid things, like come to a full stop in 75mph traffic because they’re 5 lanes away from their exit.

          11. robc

            It works really well,

            Does it? The maps I have seen suggest that in those areas the tax revenue is know where near enough to maintain those roads long term.

            I have criticized some of the maps on strongtowns because they are missing some key points that would be nice…but my criticisms in most cases would only lessen the problem, not eliminate it.

            https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2012/1/2/the-cost-of-auto-orientation.html?rq=taco%20johns

            This is a very old article that illustrates some of what he was stressing with his site. This isn’t about the road, per se, but the road issue relates to it.

          12. Gadfly

            Does it?

            Yes. After reading that article you posted, I can see where you’re coming from, but I think it misses a major point. The pedestrian oriented development ideal maximizes land-use efficiency, true, but the auto oriented development ideal maximize time-use efficiency. It’s a trade off and where you fall on what you prefer is going to depend entirely on what you value more. Both are finite resources, so I can understand different people preferring one or the other, but I place more value on time. Shopping in a pedestrian area is the worst: it takes longer and there are fewer options – it’s like a mall except you don’t have a car nearby to conveniently store what you are buying. And the article’s example, while showing that more buildings per sq. ft. will yield higher property values per sq. ft. (and thereby higher property tax yields), fails to consider the sales tax implications. An auto focused business will do more business, which will generate more revenue for the city and the business owner. This is reflected by the fact that that auto-oriented business spent far more on improvements than any single business in the pedestrian-oriented block: they expect to make more money and so have invested more. Which way comes out ahead in the end will depend on the preference of the customers.

          13. robc

            I have seen the sales tax charts, its doesnt change things very much.

            Plus, in some states, like mine, the local government gets 0% of the sales tax income, at least directly. It goes to the state and local add on sales taxes are not allowed (there is some exceptions for tax financing districts, but that is another stupid kettle of fish).

          14. robc

            This is reflected by the fact that that auto-oriented business spent far more on improvements than any single business in the pedestrian-oriented block: they expect to make more money and so have invested more.

            Not sure this is true after you account for tax subsidies (which isn’t mentioned in that article, but a followup mentioned that the Taco Johns got some subsidies, IIRC). And the total amount of improvements is higher in the old block, so that block (as a whole) spent more on improving the land than the new block.

          15. robc

            The pedestrian oriented development ideal maximizes land-use efficiency, true, but the auto oriented development ideal maximize time-use efficiency.

            The latter is fine, if you are willing to pay for it.

            And considering the amount of time people spend in traffic, not sure its true.

            With elimination of zoning and mixed use development, the land-use efficiency and time-use efficiency would both go to the same development pattern.

            I use to drive 20 mins to my favorite bar. I would have preferred to have a pub on my street, 1 min walk away (I use to make this comment years before I had heard of strongtowns, it was part of my anti-zoning screed).

    3. Drake

      I enjoy watching John destroy what passes for articles at TOS.

    4. Chipwooder

      I’m with John on the automated cars. Fuck those things. If I don’t control my movements, then someone else will, and it’s fairly easy to surmise who that would be.

      1. R C Dean

        Hitler?

        1. Chipwooder

          Exactly.

          1. robc

            The mislegislation of a tool is not the fault of the tool.

          2. Chipwooder

            That’s a nice sentiment, but you know damned well that there is no way around the fundamental fact that such things will be subject to control by the state. I’ll keep my dumb car, thanks.

  13. straffinrun

    March for Our Lives 101: What to expect at your first protest

    For many teens, this will be their first time protesting — and joining such a huge crowd can be daunting. Whether you’re an experienced activist or a first-time marcher, this checklist will help you prepare.

    I don’t remember USA Today doing this for The March for Life.

    1. DiegoF

      teens

      Alright, Left; this means war! For next March for Life, I’m putting the word out: We bring the fetuses.

  14. robc

    Like my christianity, I am ecumenical about pizza. Deep dish, thin crust, cracker crust, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Neopolitian, Sicilian, Hawaiian, it is all pizza. But even when you are ecumenical, there is a line. Ranch is the Mormonism of pizza.

    Someone looked into his hat and pulled out a crazy-ass recipe. It may be tasty (not for me), but it aint pizza.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      I answered you below. Meant to reply in this slot.

      1. robc

        Throw a few pepperonis on that and it might be perfect.

        1. robc

          I was referring to the Naples picture.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            It’s funny the topic came up. My mother is insisting she come over to make pizza.

            I tend to complain I don’t like how mine turns out. I measure it against hers and my BILs mother.

            I can’t push her off. She also wants to bring her ‘pasta macchina’ to make home made pasta. Cavatelli in particular because my daughter and niece love it.

    2. Thousand Island dressing or sauce on pizza is in fact Pizza. Therefore ranch dressing on Pizza is also Pizza. QED

      1. WTF

        This from the monster who likes pineapple on pizza.

        1. Red pizzas are for communists.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            lol.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        I have to rethink you being a good guy.

        I’m thinking monster.

    3. leonadasiv

      Just disregard the fact that Mormons believe in Christ as their savior and Redeemer. But sure they’re not Christian.

      1. trshmnstr

        Mormon is to Christian as Susan Collins is to republican.

        1. leonadasiv

          What then, does it take to be a “True Christian” in your book. For me, being a Christian means believing and accepting Christ as your Savior and striving to live by his teachings. Mormons fit that bill. Perhaps I’m to liberal, or have some glaring misunderstanding.

          1. Here’s the problem with Mormons – They claim the addendum to the holy book was found in Upstate New York.

            That’s where they lose me.

          2. leonadasiv

            I understand that hangup, but it shouldn’t disqualify one from being a Christian, because he’s a Mormon.

          3. Chipwooder

            They also believe a whole lotta things that are not in the Bible, but rather are in their Book of Mormon.

            They’re quasi-Christian. Very nice people though. I have Mormon neighbors, and you couldn’t ask for better. Kind, helpful, mind their own business.

          4. A Leap at the Wheel

            I think the only truly Christian answer is “Its not really for me to decide.” The only people a Christian should be worried about labeling are himself, his family, and his church community.

          5. trshmnstr

            There is importance in avoiding label drift, and I think there’s a difference between whether or not Mormons are Christians and whether or not they’re saved. I won’t weigh in on the latter, but I will on the former.

            The basics for being considered a Christian, in my view, are 1) Nicaean trinitarianism, 2) Jesus was fully man and fully God, 3) an eschatology in line with the OT and NT of the Bible, 4) salvation by grace through faith (with room here for debate over the importancr of good works) . Mormonism fails on all 4 counts.

          6. A Leap at the Wheel

            I don’t argue with any of this. What I’m saying though is that it is explicitly not the place of a Christian to decide this for someone else (see eg James 4).

            This is a very alien and pre-enlightenment way to think of things. But the bible is an alien and pre-enlightenment text to me in general…

          7. Raven Nation

            I think (2) above is where orthodox Christians would really draw the line. Mormonism. In particular, Mormon doctrine teaches that Christ was born as the spiritual child of the Father. That is, Christ did not exist eternally.

          8. leonadasiv

            1.) Correct, Mormons reject Nicaean trinitarianism.

            2.) No, they do maintain he was both Man and God.

            3.) I’ll Grant you that their view of the final judgment differs from traditional Christian sects, but not incompatible with them.

            4.) A common misconception, admittedly often perpetuated by their own missionaries, I would say the focus on ordinances is no more than Catholicisms. While you may disagree with Catholicism, would you say it is not Christian?

          9. Michael Bluth

            leonadasiv covered the responses well. I would point out that there has been a rather large tonal shift from focusing on solely on works to embracing grace in the last 20 or so years. Even though the Book of Mormon has always stated: “it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.”

            As a Mormon I consider myself a Christian based on my belief in Jesus Christ and his atonement. I admit we’re odd ducks, and out of the mainstream, but I really won’t lose much sleep on whether or not you consider me a Christian. And that might be because I have a 4 day old baby and I don’t have much sleep to lose.

          10. trshmnstr

            And that might be because I have a 4 day old baby and I don’t have much sleep to lose.

            Congratulations!!

            I’m also glad you’re not losing sleep over my opinion. After all, it’s just my opinion and I intend no ill will or insult, despite my lack of sensitivity and tact when discussing such things. I have no special insight into truth, heterodoxy, and heresy beyond what is written in the scriptures.

      2. Old Man With Candy

        They’re not, unless you think Christians are Jews because they both believe in Yahweh. The Christians addeed a new book, and that separated them from the Jews. Mormons did the same thing, which separated them from Christians.

        1. AlmightyJB

          You could toss Muslims in there as well although that was really just plagiarism with some cherry picking and some Jinn thrown in for local flavor.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      This is what Jesus says about taking a weak stand on the pizza issue.

      Revelation 3:15,16
      He says, “I know what you do. I know that you are neither cold nor hot. And I wish that you were cold or hot. So I will spit you out of my mouth, because you are only warm and not hot or cold.

      1. trshmnstr

        God condones cold pizza, but won’t tolerate it being warmed up in the microwave, hood to know!

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Cast iron skillet over low heat with the lid on and a few drops of water tossed in when the skillet gets to at least 212. It is the only path to righteousness.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        This reminds me my local pizza joint has a reference from Revelation on their box. I might have to look it up now.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    what exactly should one do to avoid the whole metoo shitshow?

    There is no escape. As you have described it, it is an inescapable “heads I win, tails you lose” scenario. And we can sure as Hell expect a vast new wave of discrimination suits when WOPR says, “The only way to win, is not to play.” Just think how much fun it would be if it were the “Clinton administration NLRB”.

  16. Rufus the Monocled

    Focaccia Genovese for me is my persona favourite. A variation is adding some garlic and rosemary.

    http://www.secretitaly.it/best-italy-regional-pizzas/

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      She’s hot, but I prefer Monica Belluci

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Get outta here!

        1. Not Adahn

          Mia Sorvino c. Romeo Must Die

  17. The Late P Brooks

    March for Our Lives 101: What to expect at your first protest

    Ass grabbing.

    1. DiegoF

      The ass? That sounds…inappropriate for an anti-Trump Women’s March-sponsored march. I have an alternative suggestion.

  18. Tuesday is for underboob.

    http://archive.is/XUXf6

    8, 25 and 27 are all invited to my next barbeque.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder
    1. DiegoF

      A lot of these are too big. Too big, and you are either fetish-porn fake (regular fake is OK), or…well, too big. I don’t get this business where you do the “topless” shot and you are practically busting a forehead vein propping your titties up. That is not giving me a look at your titties, for any practical purposes. You have to do that to look as sexy as you are presenting yourself? What are you, going to be holding them up the whole time with me? Bah.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’m right there with ya’.

        Here’s a prize for you.

      2. These vile lies have no place in polite society.

  19. Rufus the Monocled

    You guys talk an awful lot about pizza but no one argues which brands offer the best dry pasta.

    I’ll start.

    De Cecco. Edge over Barilla.

    I leave out the small shop pastas which also tend to be very good but more expensive.

    Thoughts?

    1. Pasta is but a mere filler and distraction from the real action: meat, vegetables, eggs, and dairy.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I’m lactose intolerant.

        1. DiegoF

          You eat pizza, motherfucker. Cheese is non-lactose but dairy.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            I have to take pills!

            I try to have white pizza without it. With rapini and sausage for example.

            Oh by the way, if you insist on have tomato sauce with rapini in your pasta (broccoli rabe) you deserve the belt.

    2. DiegoF

      I was always a Barilla man, didn’t even think about it for my whole life (hey, it’s what the Italians eat, right?) until very recently. Supermarket closed, bodega didn’t have Barilla. Now I have seen the light! De Cecco, amen amen hallelujah! Holds the sauce so well.

      Barilla is good too. Most important thing is that they go in your mouth when they are cooked through, and not the tiniest bit more.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        They make a really good GF pasta, even better than the regular pasta imo.

    3. WTF

      Mass produced? I agree on De Cecco.

      1. DiegoF

        Is there dry pasta that isn’t mass produced? It’s an inherently factory-made product.

        1. WTF

          There are smaller companies making regional “artisanal” dried pastas, so not on the same level as nationally-distributed brands.

    4. Old Man With Candy

      Why leave out small shop pasta? We’re addicted to Tenuta’s dry pasta.

      The key is bronze dies for extrusion.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Because the list can go on and on! I tried to set boundaries. BOUNDARIES!

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Bronze dies.

        Don’t mess with OMWC. He just….knows.

      3. Chipwooder

        I grew up on this stuff. When I was a kid and we moved away from Long Island, whenever we’d go up to visit (or my grandparents came down), we’d always get two things – bagels and spinach ravioli from Antoni.

        Only fresh, though. They don’t do dry noodles.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Stuffed shells!

        2. DiegoF

          Bah, that ain’t the question though! The question was dried pasta. You might as well be answering the question, “What is your favorite cheesecake?” for all the subjects are related.

      4. ChipsnSalsa

        Tenuta’s man, you got it, We will go well out of our way on a trip to Kenosha southeast Wisconsin to stop at Tenutas to buy all sorts of great food.

        Hopefully it is the same thing you’re talking about.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Yesterday, on the news, they were trying to explain hype the heinous crimes committed by that “Trump-connected” data analytical firm. For the life of me, I cannot see what crime they committed by using data gathered on facebook to send out targetted ads, political or otherwise. I guess it’s just the whole Advertising = Mind Control nonsense.

    1. When Trump lives in so many heads rent-free, 24/7, everything has a Trump connection.

      1. AlexinCT

        Even when the first fact they should lead with is that Trump stopped working with that firm before he started running for office? You have to be gunning to misinform people on this shit when you never disclose that fact but spend endless stupid cycle trying to create the illusion Trump had these people breaking the law for them. In the mean time the real crimes by the Obama Admin., Obama himself, and Crooked Hillary are ignored or actually defended as great shit. Fuck these people.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It’s bullshit.

      Obama was “micro-targeting” voters in 2012 and the media were slobbering over it because he was the grooviest, most forward-thinking candidate ever.

      1. Gadfly

        Not to mention that this is basically the entire business model of Facebook, and Google as well for that matter. Aggregate as much data as you can to micro-target your users to maximize advertising effectiveness (and therefor income). The only thing that looks “wrong” in this case was that the data miners were able to use Facebook info without having to pay the Facebook gatekeepers, but what they did is exactly what Facebook does every day.

        1. Sean

          ^^^ I was yelling at my tv this morning that this is the whole (business) point of facebook – data collection/mining.

          Now that Trump used it, it’s the worst thing ever.

          *facepalm*

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Here’s the fun part about this whole thing. The Trump campaign stopped using their services after the primary.

      The crucial decision was made in late September or early October when Mr. Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and Brad Parscale, Mr. Trump’s digital guru on the 2016 campaign, decided to utilize just the RNC data for the general election and used nothing from that point from Cambridge Analytica or any other data vendor.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Like my christianity, I am ecumenical about pizza.

    So- what you’re saying is you find deviant views intolerable, and believe all heretics should be burned at the stake.

    1. Man all this heretic talk is making me feel hungry for some deep dish pizza.

      1. With avocado toast?

        1. Ugh, toast? How common.

    2. Not burned at the stake – drowned in the wing fryer.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Something in my eye…

    Unable to stand, and suffering from a string of infections in his advanced age, the world’s last male northern white rhino was euthanized Monday by a veterinary team in Kenya that had fought for years to save him and his dwindling species. Only two now remain — his daughter, Najin, and granddaughter, Fatu — leaving in-vitro fertilization from preserved sperm as the last tool against extinction.

    ———-

    “We at Ol Pejeta are all saddened by Sudan’s death. He was an amazing rhino, a great ambassador for his species, and will be remembered for the work he did to raise awareness globally of the plight facing not only rhinos, but also the many thousands of other species facing extinction as a result of unsustainable human activity,” Ol Pejeta Conservancy chief executive Richard Vigne said in a statement. “One day, his demise will hopefully be seen as a seminal moment for conservationists worldwide.”

    *surreptitiously chortles, rolls eyes*

    1. straffinrun

      last male northern white rhino

      Perked up for a second. What happened to Mitt?

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Moved to Utah, which is in the Mid-West

    2. If there are only two of the species left, they’re effectively extinct. You do not have a large enough gene pool to revive the species.

      1. WTF

        Yes, once the numbers drop below a viable breeding population, it’s all over.

      2. You might if the sperm they have saved are from other males. How many more offspring can the two females have before they are done? Say the number is 10 each and there are sworn from 5 males. You could create enough unique genetic rhinos that the second generation of them, assuming 50/50 M/F births would contain at least 50 different genetic females and males, plus the earlier generation’s males to mate.
        That would guarantee a diverse gene pool as long as they are properly mated for uniqueness.

        Of course, this will never happen because rhinos are dumb animals that can’t reproduce for shit.

    3. DiegoF

      Ewww, the other ones are his daughter and granddaughter? Is it really worth saving the species if it must be this way? I mean, I know cheetahs suffered such a bottleneck they can donate tissue to each other without antirejection drugs; they are essentially clones at this point. But I don’t know about rolling the dice deliberately with living beings. Maybe the conservationists are a little too excited to be handling the rhino splooge.

      1. Gadfly

        Incest, while icky and suboptimal, is not as big of a threat to a lineage as often implied. If you are trying to save a species you might as well roll the dice, as things could turn positive (as with the Cheetahs you mention), and if they don’t you haven’t really lost anything anyway. It’s like Russian roulette: sometimes you get a Charles II of Spain, and other times you get a Cleopatra.

        1. If cheetahs can transplant withot immunosuppressants, then they may have the same problem Tasmanian devils do. In Tasmanian Devils, Cancer is a communicable disease. Facial cancers are spreading through the populace because A: They fight each other often, and B: are so genetically similar that the cancer takes root in the new tissues after the fight.

          Luckily, that sort of behaviour is not common among cheetahs.

        2. Timeloose

          I don’t know how much I remember about Biology and genetics from HS, but is this similar to hybrid vigor. You breed from a small gene pool and you get a lot of really shitty offspring, but you also get a few genetically superior offspring as well.

  23. Certified Public Asshat

    Despite the government telling me not to (probably made me want to buy one more), I bought a Huawei phone.

    The Chinese now know all of my secrets, but I am glad I didn’t have to spend a ton of money buying a new phone.

    1. leonadasiv

      “But we might not have a backdoor into it to control it”

      This is really what the “National security” argument boils down too.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        That’s how I understand it too, because otherwise the government is not backing up their assertions.

    2. Semi-Spartan Dad

      My Galaxy S5 is struggling on its last legs. I’m thinking about upgrading to the S7. ~$170 used or $300 new on ebay, but Istill don’t like paying that much for a phone. I’m hoping the recently released S9 will drive down the prices even more over the next month or so.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        I had my Nexus 5 for over 4 years before I finally dropped it face down on concrete last week. Battery life sucked, but it was still a functioning phone that did everything I wanted it to do.

        My new Huawei has everything I really want/need for only $230 (64 gb storage, 4 gb of ram, big screen, head phone jack, good battery, finger print sensor). The biggest problem for me is it is still using micro-usb which means I will still be buying replacement cables to keep the phone charged.

        1. Semi-Spartan Dad

          That sounds good. I’ll check it out.

          Which model is it? I got back a huge range of prices/models when I googled Huawei.

          1. Private Chipperbot

            I have an Honor 8 and I love it. Fast, great camera. I paid $300 for 64gb version. They just released Honor 7x that probably has better specs and is $200 unlocked on Amazon.

          2. Certified Public Asshat

            The mate se. Looks like Amazon has it back up to $250.

          3. Semi-Spartan Dad

            Thanks Chipper and CPA. Those both look like great phones. From what I can tell though, they aren’t Verizon-compatible, which is unfortunately the only company that gives decent cell service out where I am.

        2. Number.6

          Which model Huawei, CPA? I’m in the market for something standard-to-basic, and I’d rather have a device that the Chicoms can hack than a device the NSA can hack.

        3. NoDakMat

          Before you replace all of your cables check Amazon for adaptors. Last time I got a new phone I was able to get a three-pack of adaptors for less than the cost of one new cord.

      2. Lachowsky

        My S5 is still trucking right along. I’ve had it more than 4 years now and aside from a new battery a few years ago, it’s issue free.

        1. Semi-Spartan Dad

          I like the S5 a lot. I’ve had mine about 3 years. The charger port is acting up though and the camera stopped working on my wife’s S5.

        2. Spartacus

          Mine is running out of memory (16GB model). A lot of apps can’t update because there isn’t enough free memory. I hate to have to buy a new phone but I might have to take the plunge pretty soon.

          1. trshmnstr

            Yep, and the S5 has the issue where apps update to internal memory, even if currently installed on the SD card.

            My charging port is getting finicky and my brand new battery isn’t holding out as long as the original did in its prime, but my S5 has been trucking along for quite a while.

      3. I like my S7. I’m not so pleased with the lack of a detachable battery, however.

        1. Semi-Spartan Dad

          Wait what? You can’t replace the battery?

          1. It might be possible, but it doesn’t take 5 seconds, that’s for sure. I think you can send it out for service just like the iPhone used to be (is?).

          2. Semi-Spartan Dad

            Nvm, it looks like Samsung stopped including replaceable batteries in their Galaxy line since the S5.

          3. If you think the battery can’t be replaced, you’re not trying hard enough.

      4. TK

        I’ve had an S7 edge for almost exactly 2 years now, its an alright phone but its starting to slow down now. I haven’t tried a fresh wipe (like with a cloth?) to see if it’ll speed back up again yet. The battery can’t be replaced, either, so it runs out of juice in about 12 hours with minimal use.

        I’m probably going to switch to an iPhone next month. All my friends have iPhones and none of the gifs or other cool messaging functions work properly when sent to my S7. Plus my car has Apple car play.

  24. Drake

    Hey! Climate change is real!

    Just ask Nicholas Kristof who is on an around-the-world private jet tour to prove it.

    1. leonadasiv

      How else would the priests know the evil, without tasting it themselves.

    2. commodious spittoon

      I sometimes get the impression that real hardcore warmistas are all-in for climactic apocalypse, the worse the better, like unironic SMoD evangelists.

      1. Jarflax

        If the SMoD is to properly end our sin and suffering it will likely need to be an iron meteorite, the rocky ones just don’t have the density to get enough sweet death dealing goodness through the atmosphere.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Maybe there’s some Chesterton’s Gate logic to be applied to progressivism. We recognize and revile the power-hungry nature of the movement, but when they transcend the petty trappings of mere secular power and embrace unapologetic nihilism and the extinction of mankind, we’ll be pining for the days of identitarian squabbling.

  25. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Tard Tuesday: Revel in the prog tears that continue to flow

    She voted and went to lunch, and on the way home she felt like New York was getting ready to welcome its first female president. She walked past a party being set up, hosted by Harvey Weinstein. They said, “See you tonight, Ms Lebowitz!” But she didn’t attend that party, opting instead for the party of the then Vanity Fair editor, Graydon Carter.

    “Everyone was in a great mood and there were these huge American flags draped everywhere. Everyone was drinking champagne.” From time to time over the night, Lebowitz popped into the kitchen to look at the election map on TV and, with each visit, became increasingly nervous. The map was turning red.

    A friend, the contributing editor at Vogue, André Leon Talley, who had been on a strict weight-loss regime all year, entered the room. “I had been with this guy in restaurants all year and he was like, ‘Fish, just a little salad, no dressing!’ There were all these chocolates and cookies and stuff [on the table] and he started eating them without even looking.Then I’m smoking as usual but at a certain point I realised I’m smoking two cigarettes and Andre had eaten all the cookies. Graydon had in his hands two martinis and a waiter said ‘You want another?’ and he said ‘Yes!’ He couldn’t even hold them. At a certain point [another] friend of mine said, ‘I’m going home, I can’t take this – I’m not tough enough. I’m going home to take drugs.’ This is a man my age, a very distinguished man.”

    Lebowitz went home to SoHo through neighbourhoods usually busy with nightlife. “But there was no one in the streets – it was nothing. It was like grief inside those houses. It was horrible. I felt that strongly affected emotionally for at least a month. My level of rage, always high, is now in fever pitch all the time.”

    Lebowitz believes naked racism is behind Trump’s election. “He allowed people to express their racism and bigotry in a way that they haven’t been able to in quite a while and they really love him for that. It’s a shocking thing to realise people love their hatred more than they care about their own actual lives. The hatred – what is that about? It’s a fear of your own weakness.”

    1. straffinrun

      Wait a second, I’m not supposed to have absolutely and thoroughly enjoyed that, was I?

      1. That’s like Penthouse Forum letter.

    2. Drake

      She sounds like the most unpleasant person I could imagine. The stuff of nightmares.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Lebowitz is the quintessential New York City socialite. So, yeah…

    3. Grumbletarian

      It’s a shocking thing to realise people love their hatred more than they care about their own actual lives.

      Yep. Those backward, redneck, inbred, racist deplorables sure to love them some hatred.

      1. AlexinCT

        The ironic thing is she should look in the mirror when saying that sort of stupid shit..

    4. This shit belongs on a livejournal.

    5. TK

      My level of rage, always high, is now in fever pitch all the time.

      BOOM. There it is. Angry, angry people. But totally full of compassion for their fellow humans. Also full of rage, somehow.

      1. Waterfall Insurance

        i know some people who fit that description perfectly he was furious when he had to buy his own healthcare. His poor dad is a pretty smart guy a civic engineer but he spoiled his kid didn’t instill any responsibility, paid for him to go to College, paid for his rent, food and video games and he came home a die hard progressive with a 100k plus degree in comic books from MCAD. I’ve grown to become embarrassed by many of my longtime friends a lot of masks have come off since the election began.

        1. TK

          100k plus degree in comic books

          Wait, what? Seriously?

    6. WTF

      “He allowed people to express their racism and bigotry in a way that they haven’t been able to in quite a while…”

      The fuck does that even mean, exactly?

      1. Suthenboy

        It means that that bullshit was almost dead in this country until the Dems whipped it back into life around 2008

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      LOL, you would think Lebowitz would recognize how reminiscent this is of another New Yorker that was also clueless.

      Lebowitz becomes indignant. “I mean, I did not. It’s not my fault. I know you [Australians] are very upset about it. But we are more upset. Even my friends – I have a lot of friends in New York who are not American – were blaming me. I spent a year of my life before the election, going around the country, talking about this stuff. It’s not my fault. I am blameless. I am not a perfect person. I am not blameless in life but I do not know one single person who voted for him.”

      1. Yeah, these are the sophisticated, worldly ones.

        They’re not at *all* close-minded, provincial and ignorant. Not even a little bit.

    8. I came buckets

    9. commodious spittoon

      ‘I’m going home, I can’t take this – I’m not tough enough. I’m going home to take drugs.’

      This is parody. Fran Leibowitz is the nom de plume of a conservative satirist. Surely.

    10. Count Potato

      “Lebowitz believes naked racism is behind Trump’s election.”

      Of course she does.

    11. Gadfly

      These two passages:

      My level of rage, always high, is now in fever pitch all the time.

      It’s a shocking thing to realise people love their hatred more than they care about their own actual lives.

      Indicate that this person is not big on introspection.

    12. JaimeRoberto

      It was the racism and those damn white women.

    13. B.P.

      “My level of rage, always high….”

      We know.

  26. straffinrun

    Unlike other attacks, such as the Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida, which Trump was quick to label an act of terrorism, the president has remained silent about the Austin bombs.

    Intersectionality. Any insane statement it can’t conjure up?

    1. Los Doyers

      He doesn’t want to trigger any mouthy high schoolers to “action” on Twitter.

      1. leonadasiv

        But wait, of guns are banned, people could just walk into their local bomb store and use those.

    2. DiegoF

      Wait, shouldn’t the Right be trying to hush up Pulse and shout about Austin, since the former is guns and the latter is bombs? I’m so confused!

      1. straffinrun

        I imagine it’s one of those “Trump hates McCabe because he leaked info damaging to Hillary” type pretzels of hatred. You just roll with it.

    3. commodious spittoon

      Wait, I thought it was irresponsible to label lone wolf nuts like the Pulse killer a terrorist.

    4. A Leap at the Wheel

      Terrorism is violence enacted for a specific reason. The pulse nightclub shooter announced it over and over again. All the information needed was right there on the 911 call.

      In this case, we just have some bombs. No reason.

      Trump is the cool, deliberate rational one in the room. Good job news media.

      1. Gadfly

        Trump is the cool, deliberate rational one in the room. Good job news media.

        The fact that this has happened on multiple occasions should be a giant red flag for our society. It’s one thing to be wrong when Trump is right, but to be a hothead when Trump is deliberate is just all kinds of messed up.

  27. Drake

    Of the remenant nedeth nat enquere

    Mark Steyn sums up the latest “grooming” scandal in the place England used to be.

    What happened in Telford is shameful; when a nation declines to be ashamed, that is far worse, and very telling.

    1. Suthenboy

      Very unlikely that I will visit England again but if I do I am bringing a pistol and about a thousand rounds for it. Everyone involved in that deserves to be shot in the face.

  28. The Late P Brooks

    I try to avoid meeting 1 on 1 with women behind closed doors. Especially the ones who have outed themselves as progs.

    For gods’ sake, don’t ride the elevator with them.

  29. straffinrun

    From the Daily Mail article:

    How to spot a serial bomber

    Male
    Detail orientated and takes pride in planning and abilities
    ‘Motivated by spectacle through destruction as opposed to merely destructiveness’
    Poor at intimacy
    Socially isolated and quiet
    Obsession with the media and how it reports

    Glad that doesn’t sound like anyone here.

    1. DiegoF

      Certainly not OMWC. He’s great at intimacy!

      Quite good at planning, though.

    2. Chipwooder

      My lack of organizational skills is obviously what has saved me from a depraved life of serial bombing.

      1. Lachowsky

        I’d be bombing shit left and right. Unfortunantly they banned bombs, so I dont.

    3. Count Potato

      Quiet?

    4. Spartacus

      Ezra Klein is a serial bomber!

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Lebowitz went home to SoHo through neighbourhoods usually busy with nightlife. “But there was no one in the streets – it was nothing. It was like grief inside those houses. It was horrible.

    So what he’s saying is Trump is like Santa Claus?

    1. DiegoF

      I don’t believe that shit about Manhattan for a second.

      Also, I’m surprised she found a place to smoke at LAX. Shocked, even. Maybe California isn’t yet quite as horrifying as I thought.

      1. Drake

        I haven’t been there in a while. They used to have a glass cage for the smokers. Regular people could watch the animals in their foggy habitat.

        1. DiegoF

          They’ll really hit the jackpot if there are any Indonesian tourists flying in. They love to toss cigarettes to the primates!

        2. Chipwooder

          I don’t think any airports have those anymore. Atlanta had one too.

          1. Lachowsky

            I know in Memphis there is one restaurant that you can smoke in. You have to buy something.

    1. straffinrun

      Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan tweeted Tuesday that his office is “closely monitoring the situation at Great Mills High School.”

      Just make sure your cops get home safe. That’s what counts.

    2. DiegoF

      Good Lord. Sounds like there might be no fatalities though, God willing.

      I do hope we can keep coverage low key this time to avoid another string of copycats. All a kid needs to do to become legend. We learned that in the cooler moments years after Columbine, and have promptly unlearned it after Sandy Hook, lost the lesson to the need for political posturing.

      1. LJW

        Exactly! School shootings are less common today than they were in the 90s. We are already heading in a good direction. But all of this political posturing and 24/7 media coverage seems to contribute to copycats.

      2. WTF

        Low key? I guarantee the usual suspects in the media and others on the left are giddy at the thought of more bodies to stand on to promote further infringement of the second amendment.

      3. JaimeRoberto

        So what you are saying is that we need some common sense media control.

    3. Oh joy.

      I always feel guilty that my first reaction to these incidents is not “that’s terrible for the victims” but “now I have to listen to weeks of autistic screeching about gun control”.

      1. DiegoF

        I thought that too for a second and I feel guilty as fuck.

        Except, of course, for me it’s not the fear of screeching but the knowledge that we are losing this fight in the long term.

        You can feel less guilty if you remember that “mass shootings” is, indeed, a media created moral panic, and you can think of these incidents the same way you think of any other killings that happen in America every day, that don’t even make the news. (We don’t even know if anyone died here, God willing.)

        1. Grumbletarian

          Except, of course, for me it’s not the fear of screeching but the knowledge that we are losing this fight in the long term.

          Only legislatively, if at all. A War on Gunz will be just as effective as Prohibition and the War on Drugz. The real victims will be innocent people shot to death to try to keep them from getting gunz.

          1. DiegoF

            Oh, just that. Well, I certainly do feel better!

          2. DiegoF

            Although a nice use of hip-hop style plural orthography is always enough to cheer me up just a bit, I have to admit.

          3. Jarflax

            This “even if they ban x, it will still be available via black markets” idea is common in libertarian circles; but it is not at all comforting. The issue with any sort of prohibition is not that you can’t get the thing that was prohibited. It is that your previously innocent conduct now makes you a criminal, Once they have made you a criminal you are government property. If you are still walking around you are in the same situation as a cow grazing on a free range. Free until your owner decides to round you up.

        2. Gadfly

          Except, of course, for me it’s not the fear of screeching but the knowledge that we are losing this fight in the long term.

          A good thing to remember to contextualize this is that gun laws used to be worse in this country than they are now. Even if some ground is lost at the present time, the fact that it was gained before (in recent times, even) means it can be gained again. Never give up.

      2. I have 100% stopped feeling guilty after witnessing such a disgusting concerted effort to politicise the schools. The compassion died when “grown-ups” shoved a microphone in the face of the bald-headed teenager and praised her wisdom in calling for “change.”

        1. DiegoF

          I think one Republican politician from nowhere near Florida called her a “lesbian skinhead.” Which was incredibly rude and mean and entirely inappropriate, although completely true and also hilarious.

      3. TK

        I don’t feel guilty for that. It sucks and it is terrible for the victims and their families and friends, but I’m getting kind of numb to this kind of coverage.

        The screeching after the tragedy is getting louder, sticks around longer and is extremely annoying. It results in the same debate over and over and over, totally dominating every single political podcast I listen to. This results in not only Progs annoying me with their screeching and non-sense proposals (or worse, non-proposals – just opting to call everyone a terrible person without actually proposing a serious policy), but also the conservative podcasts I listen to become dominated with “well, here’s the statistics on gun violence and actually blah blah blah.” Its annoying as hell. I’ve heard it all before, so unless someone has a new argument or a new, effective and practical policy proposal, I am getting really tired of this subject.

    4. leonadasiv

      Sigh. What sickens me is that the discussion surrounding school shootings is limited to impossible solutions, but solutions that could be implemented immediately, are scorned and laughed at.

      1. DiegoF

        What are those?

        1. A broad, sweeping, Australia-type confiscation regime of course.

        2. leonadasiv

          Let but teachers who want to carry, carry. For one.

          1. WTF

            But teachers? What exactly are they teaching?

          2. Grumbletarian

            Self reliance?

    5. Semi-Spartan Dad

      Unpossible. Maryland has some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation.

      1. Grumbletarian

        Everybody knows you can just walk across the border to (pick a state) and buy guns without even showing ID at any convenience store.

    6. LJW

      Correct me if I’m wrong but Maryland banned “assault rifles”. So assuming the shooter didn’t use an AR what are the lefties going to demand we ban now?

      1. DiegoF

        Whatever was used, and several things that have absolutely nothing to do with it. Clearly Maryland’s restrictions are inadequate.

        “‘Bait and Switch’? What in that thar tarnation is that, one of them fancypants Yankee legal firms?” –Florida Republicans

    7. robc

      My sister taught in that county, different school, back in the 80s and early 90s.

    8. MikeS

      Shooter dead after injuring two students. School resource officer pursued and engaged with shooter. Not clear if cop killed shooter or if ti was suicide.

  31. The Late P Brooks

    It’s a shocking thing to realise people love their hatred more than they care about their own actual lives.

    Can we please stop talking about Hillary?

    1. leonadasiv

      That could aptly be applied to Hillary supporters, who have torn up their own happiness focusing on something, ultimately unimportant.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    Angry, angry people. But totally full of compassion for their fellow humans. Also full of rage, somehow.

    They are enraged by your lack of compassion, you monster.

  33. Lachowsky

    http://5newsonline.com/2018/03/19/dna-tech-brings-new-light-to-28-year-old-arkansas-homicide/

    I read about this DNA technology this morning. It kinda sounds like bullshit to me. I have my doubts that one could use someone’s DNA to come up with a sketch of someone’s face.

    1. straffinrun

      Maybe if they got a facial, it hardened and they turned it into a mold.

      1. Mr Lizard

        *partially narrows gaze, gives up and crawls away*

    2. SugarFree

      DNA is a social construct.

  34. l0b0t

    Random thoughts – In the early/mid ’90s I worked as a pizza chef in a rather popular New Orleans pizza joint. The red sauce I was forced to prepare, always under direct supervision of the owner (worried I would deviate from his precise formulation), was singularly vile and gives me shudders to this very day. Into a 10 gallon stock pot, along with the usual canned tomatoes and tomato paste, went two whole onions – two whole onions with only the outer paper removed; the sauce would, I was assured, absorb the essence of the onion so no slicing or chopping was needed. Now, since sweated aromatics were not employed to sweeten the sauce, and the boss was proudly insistent that the sauce be Sugar Busters™, twenty-three packets of Sweet & Low™ artificial sweetener went into the mix. Sigh… the pay was pretty good.

    1. Christ. I am pretty tolerant of all kinds of garbage pizza…like if there’s free Dominoes, I will eat it (and always regret it). I do think, however, if I had a slice of pie that had the unmistakable flavour of artificial sweeteners, I would have to draw the line and drop that shit into a trash can.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        /looks sheepishly at Pomp.

        Dominoes is a guilty pleasure.

        Soybean oil and all.

        1. Taco Bell is another one of those. Every couple of years or so I will remember how awesome the Beef Meximelt and the Chilito (chortle) tasted when I was a kid, will get a bag of Taco Bell, and just be completely dejected and filled with feelings of self-loathing, followed by crying in a bathtub with rancid sulfur toots wafting about.

          1. AlexinCT

            I have had Taco hell exactly twice in my life. Pissing out of my ass because I ate grade F shit is not a hobby of mine though, so I will never do that again.

      2. DiegoF

        Little Caesar’s tastes sweet. Domino’s–at least old Domino’s; I haven’t had it since their first effort at reinvention–was utterly tasteless. Not bad tasting at all, just so remarkably bereft of any taste at all that it seems almost like a meritorious accomplishment. A miracle of modern food science, it is. I never had the opportunity to wash it down with an ice cold Keystone Light, and that seems like a damned shame now.

        1. The last two times I made the mistake of doing business with Dominos I got one on occassion a brick of grease with some semblance of bread product under it somewhere, and on the other a burnt brick of grease with some semblance of bread product.

          I don’t do business with them anymore.

        2. Trigger Hippie

          I’m with Rufus on this one, I don’t mind Dominoes. The quality of the pizza tends to vary widely from store to store but I find a well ran operation palatable enough. As far as the new formula they rolled out several years ago think garlic, then more garlic, add garlic.

          You must like garlic or it’s not worth the bother.

          1. Trigger Hippie

            For the record this my goto pizza chain when it’s available.

            https://www.gosarpinos.com

        3. SugarFree

          Papa John’s has that sort of sweet sauce and undercooks their dough. One time when forced to eat it by social circumstance, there was a vein of raw dough in the unseasoned edge-crust. Even when cooked through it is a tasteless blob of gluey flour yuck. Barf.

          1. commodious spittoon

            I’ve got a weird affection for floury, under-baked dough. Mom did a lot of baking when we were growing up, so I had my fill of pie dough scraps.

          2. SugarFree

            Pie dough scraps at least have fat worked into them, so tasty. This is more like Wonder Bread goo. Pizza Hut and Dominos are like “Papa John’s, brah, your pizza sucks.”

          3. trshmnstr

            Nah, pizza hut tastes okay, but is too greasy. I shit like a firehose after eating pizza slut.

            Domino’s is about as tasty as ketchup on matzos. Too bad it’s the only place that delivers to the trash can.

            Papa johns is decent for what it is, and I’ve never had undercooking issues. However, the best papa is papa Murphy

          4. Number.6

            That’s exactly what Pizza Slut does to me. It’s like they fry those suckers in castor oil.

          5. MikeS

            the best papa is papa Murphy

            That’s for damn sure. To add a touch more to the good papa, I butter the outer edge of the crust and lightly sprinkle garlic powder on it before baking.

          6. straffinrun

            Worked at Pizza Slut in high school. You don’t want to know how much oil they put in their deep dish pizzas. I imagine the consumer’s intestines look like the inside of lava lamps.

          7. DiegoF

            Bread dough–especially challah–too is delicious, if intoxicating, if I remember from my wee days. But I think undercooked is just nasty.

    2. Drake

      This must be why New Orleans is so famous for their pizza.

      1. l0b0t

        There was a place in the Central Business District that did pizza pie topped with amazing game meats; from obscure (to me) stuff like ostrich, and antelope to stuff more to my lusting liking such as gator and wild boar. They were fantastic but not at all what I think of as a pizzeria. Here on Rockaway Beach we have a great local joint with a white pie to die for and some great specialty pies like chicken, bacon, ranch (sounds gross but it is so very yummy), and a pie with sausage, bacon, and sunny side up eggs… I think I’m gonna pizza for lunch.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      twenty-three packets of Sweet & Low

      Awesomesauce

    4. Chipwooder

      Tomatoes are already sweet. Adding sweeteners to tomato sauce is madness.

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      And you lived to tell the tale!

    6. l0b0t

      The crust was also weird but its deficiencies paled in comparison to the sauce. We made hundreds of “par-bakes” every morning – we would make dough, portion, proof, roll into pizza and through them into the deck oven for a few minutes until they looked like some pita/naan abomination. They were stacked onto bakery carts and used for the day’s orders. Odd place but we were always pretty busy. Our delivery driver was a very attractive country-girl lesbian who tooled around in an old open top Jeep, blasting Dolly Parton at top volume and once absolutely pummeled some drunk who grabbed her breast (she had to be pulled off before she really disfigured the fellow; she was scary when provoked).

      1. DiegoF

        I would’ve eaten a whole cart of those backwoods parbakes just to have been around for that shit.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    I have my doubts that one could use someone’s DNA to come up with a sketch of someone’s face.

    Every time I see something about how somebody has sculpted a face onto a bare skull and said, “This is what that person looked like,” I reflexively call bullshit.

    1. DiegoF

      As we all know, this technique works for only one man, and it requires neither skulls nor DNA.

    2. leonadasiv

      https://youtu.be/SjhbtCWHj1g

      Relevant: 45 seconds in

  36. The Late P Brooks

    I always feel guilty that my first reaction to these incidents is not “that’s terrible for the victims” but “now I have to listen to weeks of autistic screeching about gun control”.

    I’ll stop thinking that when the gungrabbers stop saying, “SEE? This proves what we have been saying all along. We need to get all the guns out of private hands!”

  37. Warty

    Regarding pizza, I finally started listening to my daimon and stopped eating the shit. Now I don’t have to deal with heartburn anymore and it’s totally worth it.

    Now, with that out of the way, everyone will be delighted to know that potato, cheddar cheese, and bacon pizza is delicious. Fuck all of you.

    1. Chipwooder

      so….loaded potato skins, basically?

    2. bacon-magic

      Bacon is the magic ingredient

      1. DiegoF

        What is your position on:

        (1) Bac-Os
        (2) Sizzilean
        (3) Turkey Bacon
        (4) Veggie Bacon
        (5) Canadian Bacon
        (6) Beggin’ Strips

        1. DiegoF

          (7) Pancetta

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Strange, my opinion on that list sounds a lot like my wife.

            no-no-no-NO-yes-no-YES

          2. Trigger Hippie

            You’re married to Madeline Khan?

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt7U0XycEJE

            *nsfw

    3. Timeloose

      Here is a picture of several styles of “Pagash” pizza. It is the result of Polish and Italian Americans living too close together for too long. It can be delicious or deadly. A Carb or grease bomb. The best use bacon or sausage.

      http://www.nepapizzareview.com/2017/02/what-is-pagash-pizza-and-where-to-find.html

      Enjoy or hate.

    4. Jarflax

      Your pierogie unrolled?

  38. The Late P Brooks

    potato, cheddar cheese, and bacon pizza is delicious

    You misspelled “soup” you heathen.

  39. Broswater

    Woke up, start coffee, start computer, go on Youtube to play a song I woke up with in my head.

    Youtube suggests this :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_MxAXaKzOU

    Count Dankula Convicted for Nazi Pug.

    Yeah, maybe I’ll go back to bed.

    1. straffinrun

      Wow. A pug managed to do what the Third Reich couldn’t do.

    2. DiegoF

      Dank sacrificed himself so that the world may hear the Good News, in clearest relief, of Britain’s revolting descent into absurdity.

      He has done mankind a great service here. Much good may yet come of this, many eyes of those on the fence opened. If the UK’s entire political class were overturned by force right now no American could find it unjustified.

      1. straffinrun

        I hate activist marches, but even I would go into the streets to protest that disgusting miscarriage of justice. I hope they march en masse to protest this.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Britons can’t seem to rouse themselves to rally against the serial raping of pre-teen girls. I doubt they’re going to blink at some mook on youtube with his Nazi pug.

          1. straffinrun

            My guess is they will turn out for this. Huge numbers? Probably not, but this one really hit a sweet spot. People will rally around weird, seemingly unimportant events. There has to be a lot of pent up anger out there and this might be so absurd that it will turn out the people. Hope springs eternal.

          2. Akira

            I have the feeling that there’s much more anger over this than the media is letting on. They’ll just pass over the stories, and of course, social media companies will delete any posts that call too much attention to it.

            I think what makes this dangerous is that if the anti-refugee people feel like they have no voice, that’s going to drive them right into the arms of actual neo-Nazi groups.

      2. Number.6

        For Pepe so loved the shitposters that he gave his one and only Scottish Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal pug-related memes.

        1. DiegoF

          I’ve actually grown to love the guy. I don’t really watch Sargon, but I watch him nowadays. Unlike Sargon, he isn’t at all less smart than he thinks he is. He’s entertaining and says what he has to say in a hell of a lot less than two hours.

      3. Count Potato

        There might be some silver lining here, but right now I just feel sad he was convicted.

    3. Number.6

      I feel sorry for Mark, but y’know, this happening at the same time as the Pettibone/Southern/Sellner brouhaha might result in some change in public awareness of just how weighty the boot of state that lies upon the throat of Britain actually is.

      1. DiegoF

        Well, technically they don’t really have a right to enter the United Kingdom, Queen’s passport or no, so in this case the boot of state is really just exercising its right to look like a clown shoe.

        Don’t forget it’s also happening at the same time as the grooming scandal. (Also the odious Sadiq Khan being feted like a hero at SXSW as he read out mean tweets from constituents and called for worldwide government bans on the same.)

        1. Number.6

          Southern shouldn’t have needed anything other than her Canadian passport, which I believe uses almost the same language as the British passport:

          Her Britannic Majesty’s Secretary of State Requests and requires in the name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely and without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary,

          A visa can be declined at the border. If you don’t need a visa, don’t have a visa.

          Pettibone, if she was smart, should have claimed she was in the UK in her capacity as a citizen journalist, visit duration of less than 3 months, and provided that she’d never been denied a visa in the past of had any adverse interactions with the police or customs, and is not a felon in any jurisdiction, she should be good to go without any documentation other than her passport.

          Sellner is Austrian, part of the Schengen Zone and is therefore theoretically free to enter under any circumstances, although the Austrians do lock up Holocaust Deniers, so they might have given the UK authorities a tip-off.

          1. DiegoF

            Ah, here I thought Sellner was–yep–Australian.

            I remember the MEP reading that clause to the EU at the press conference, and that was what I was referencing. I don’t think it has any effect on entry into the UK whatsoever, is what I was saying. Canada is just an ordinary country with visaless entry, an arrangement that does nothing to suggest free movement in and of itself. The fact that HM is the Queen of Jamaica but not of Trinidad, for instance, shouldn’t really have any inherent effect on relative entry to the UK from passport holders of those two countries.

    4. Number.6

      I think Robinson’s pursuing the wrong point here.

      The argument should not be that comedy should enjoy protection from ‘hate speech’.

    5. Stinky Wizzleteats

      What a fucking travesty. RIP Britain, you had a good run.

  40. Drake

    Tommy Robinson reads Martin Sellners speech at Speakers Corner.

    Robinson has become the voice of sanity in the UK.

    1. Warty

      We was koings, roight guvnah?

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Racist misogynists

    Youngblood and local grassroots activists say the Democratic Party may be stymieing this year’s anticipated blue wave and stepping on the Resistance by running moderate, veteran Democratic politicians, instead of the fresh progressive candidates hoping to be the future of the party.

    “I’ve been very loyal to this party, but I don’t feel the loyalty back,” Youngblood said. “They don’t see the value in a candidate like me.”

    It’s not just Youngblood—candidates in House races across the country are running up against the Democratic machine. In Texas, the DCCC launched a full-scale attack against progressive candidate Laura Moser in the weeks leading up to the primaries, publishing an opposition research report on its website against the first-time candidate, who faced off last week against six other Democrats vying to unseat Republican incumbent Representative John Culberson.

    In California, where Democrats are desperate to unseat Republican incumbent Jeff Denham in a toss-up House race, there’s a similar divide between national Democrats—who are reportedly encouraging a bid from farmer and beekeeper Michael Eggman, who’s lost to Denham twice before—and grassroots progressives, many of whom would prefer first-timer Dotty Nygard.

    Those mean old white men at the DNC are trying to keep progressive womynz off the ballot. It’s a dadgum tragedy.

    1. DiegoF

      We can only pray the Democrats will take the advice. I do believe there will be a blue wave washing over every body in this land but the U.S. Senate this year, and only Democrats can stop it.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Yep. Their one major win that wasn’t a giveaway by ‘Pubs was a nominally pro-life, pro-gun, anti-establishment candidate, so by all means, run your fringiest of lefty candidates, Dems.

        Of course, nobody beats Republicans like the GOP.

    2. R C Dean

      My indifference as to whether brainless statists from the GOP or brainless statists from the Dems hold what have become largely ceremonial seats in the House is hard to overstate.

      The Senate at least still retains some minimal relevance through their role in approving appointments, so I guess I would prefer Repubs there as they are somewhat less likely to approve lunatic totalitarians than Dems.

  42. Grumbletarian

    So one of the new safety measures schools are trying if there’s a lockdown due to an active shooter situation is to let the students call CNN during the incident.

    TW: Daily Caller.

    1. DiegoF

      If they’re that much solid silver it certainly seems reasonable. Don’t know why you’d want them, of course, unless you’re ugly and you might as well.

      1. Silver is about $15-18/oz right now. How much do they claim is in each earring?

        1. DiegoF

          Good point; earrings can’t be that heavy, even if big.

    2. AlmightyJB

      You can put pizza toppings on anything. Hell, I had chicken thighs with sauce, mozz, and pepp last night. It’s called pizza chicken. If you put them on bread it is pizza bread, not pizza. Pizza is all about the crust which is thin, has a nice crisp bite to it, and taste good. I like putting dough in fridge for a while to slow down fermentation which maintains a nice slightly yeasty flavor. Again, it is the thin crust that makes a pizza a pizza. I come here because this is a family friendly site but if people are going to go to the depths of depravity by calling pizza cassorole pizza, I may have to just stay at youporn all day instead.

      1. Count Potato

        So you’re saying you want to put pineapple on Selena Gomez?

      2. SugarFree

        I can only assume that AlmightyJB is talking about eating Selena Gomez.

        1. AlmightyJB

          That is a diet I could live on.

          1. AlmightyJB

            She looks like a sex doll there. Thanks:)

          2. Number.6

            Don’t you just hate it when automatics have a key-safety built into them?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      “I’m gonna ride my hobbyhorse everywhere…”

      Other than that, I got nuthin’…

      1. AlmightyJB

        Evidently she has big tatas.

        https://youtu.be/zqO8Yh5Ngqg

  43. The Elite Elite

    The UK takes the next step towards making 1984 a reality.

    1. DiegoF

      They’re buying IBMs instead of Macs?

      1. To be fair – so did most of the world.

      2. commodious spittoon

        When you have IBS all of your movements are IBMs.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Next?

      They’re already there.

    3. Count Potato

      “The owner of http://www.dailymail.co.uk has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website.”

      ???

      It was working a minute ago.

      1. Number.6

        Try https://www.dailymail.co.uk

        Disclaimer: Not a firefox user.

      2. Count Potato

        The rest of the site is working too. Just not that article.

    4. Count Potato

      “Defence agent Mr Brown also said there was no evidence that Meechan had intended to ‘stir up hatred on religious grounds.’

      Mr Brown said there was no evidence of a complainer in the case, adding Police Scotland was not contacted by anyone who found the video ‘grossly offensive or menacing.’

      He slammed the authority saying Meechan’s arrest was ‘an attempt to demonstrate diversity credentials.’

      He said: ‘The complainer would appear to be Police Scotland.’

      Mr Brown said his client had been subjected to ‘perp walk’ after claiming the media was alerted to Meechan’s arrest.

      He said: ‘On his arrest, the media had been alerted and he was photographed before he even got to the police station, let alone before he got to court.”

    5. Count Potato

      “Sentencing deferred to 23rd of April.”

      https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/976102190866665474

      1. Number.6

        Petition Create a Freedom of Speech Act and Bring an End to “Hate Speech” laws at:

        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/203615

    6. DOOMco

      People should be rioting over the bullshit there.

      1. R C Dean

        If they can’t be arsed to riot over thousands of girls being gang-raped, beaten, and a few killed, then I doubt some smartass getting busted for telling unapproved jokes is going to get them going.

  44. DOOMco

    Wait the kids call cnn??

  45. Trigger Hippie

    http://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/graykey-box-promises-to-unlock-iphones-for-police/

    I’m sure this new technology will only be used under the strict confines of a judicial warrant and slavish devotion to the fourth amendment.

    /rolls eyes

    1. TK

      The box brute-forces passwords, which doesn’t seem that novel.

      Apple’s Secure Enclave makes it difficult to brute-force the password on an iPhone by limiting how many times a user can attempt a password unlock. Bypassing that rate limit can vastly speed up the unlocking process.

      That’s why all of my devices delete everything upon 15 incorrect attempts. Granted, I think you can still find a lot of data using forensic tools, but at least that makes it a lot more of a pain in the ass.

      1. Computer Forensics was a fun elective. I wonder if they cover cell phones in the course now too.

  46. Gustave Lytton

    Stroh 80 is not 80 proof.

    1. AlmightyJB

      That would be rough if it was. Still better than jager though I’m sure.

  47. KibbledKristen

    Tomorrow is going to be a fucking awesome day…snow and Big Jet TV live from Heathrow. Plus, cigarettes, coffee, telework.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Try a little bailys or rumchata in your coffee.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      Quit Smoking or you will die ugly
      Seriously, I’m down to 2 cigs a Day, and I don’t like the taste anymore
      10 Days! so far

      1. commodious spittoon

        I hope I die beautifully, like that prom girl who took a dive down a stairwell trying to slide down a banister.

      2. TK

        We all die ugly.

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I think a better approach is “Keep Smoking and You’ll Start to Look Like Fran Lebowitz

      4. KibbledKristen

        I recently found out a friend of mine (my age) has cancer. I’m going to quit and put $5/day in a bucket and give it to her.

        1. DiegoF

          Starting…the day after tomorrow, I presume, hmmm? *Judgmental stare*

        2. AlmightyJB

          Cold turkey is the way to go. You probably don’t want to hear this but I would stay away from booze for the first few weeks as well. It’s a trigger for most smokers. Especially if your going to be exposed to smelling the smoke while your drinking like at a bar. It’s not easy but after a couple of weeks it gets a lot easier every week you don’t smoke.

          1. KibbledKristen

            I don’t really drink, so not a big deal. It’s the coffee time that kills me. And the post-meal smoke.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Yeah, gum is your friend. Like I said it will get a lot easier as you go. Your taste buds will improve quickly which may help your post-meal trigger since you’ll enjoy your food more which will be a reward. If the coffee seems to really trigger an urge to smoke, you may want to switch to tea for a couple of months. You’re mind is going to put up a fight so no point in helping it. If you can try and avoid stress thats a big help. Exercise can help in that regard as long as you don’t make it a chore. You don’t want to piss yourself off:)

          3. KibbledKristen

            If I were still at Iridium, there would be no hope of quitting, but my new job is great – low stress, easy work, nice colleagues & boss. So now is a good time as any, I suppose. I am just going to smoke the smokes I already have on hand, then I’m donezo.

          4. Seconded. I didn’t quit but I cut down to maybe once or twice a week, and it was cold turkey that did it. And guess when I do smoke. By drink number 2, generally, I’m looking for a cigarette. I can go days without so much as thinking about one but within two beers I’m a Marlboro man again.

          5. AlmightyJB

            Yeah, that was a huge problem for me as well. I had quite once for 3 years and then started going to a bar with a co-worker who smoked and started with one here and there and of course that didn’t last. It was harder to quit I think the second time. But its been probably 12 years now without a cigarette and I have no desire and haven’t for a long time. Smelling the smoke used to be a trigger but even that stopped bothering me with a year I would say. You go a month and you’re good if you can keep the stress away. Its those “fuck it, I dont care anymore” moments that get you.

      5. KibbledKristen

        Are you on the Chantix? I was on it for a while and I loved it. It was a miracle drug. But I think I need to be on it for, like, 2 years instead of the 6 months they general prescribe for.

  48. CPRM

    Ivanka Trump Called Out For ‘Cosplaying’ As A Scientist In Latest Weird Photo Op Geesh, how garish. Now, if she wore a lab coat and stood behind the lightbringer while he signed a bill, that’s totally woke!

      1. DiegoF

        What the fuck is that shit?

    1. AlmightyJB

      I’ll be in my bunk.

      1. DiegoF

        So will I! I just saw commodious spittoon’s vid.

    2. Number.6

      Oh noez, photo op to encourage girls that they too can “do science” shot down in flames because the celebrity isn’t ideologically pure.

      So unwoke. Worse than Leni Riefenstahl.

    3. DiegoF

      What’s the reference? Did Malia wear a lab coat and attend an Oval Office signing?

        1. commodious spittoon

          “Those dumb rubes won’t get the message unless our doctors look like Leo Spaceman, so no way they’ll notice their premiums skyrocketing.”

    4. ruodberht

      At least she’s modeling being in a lab setting where the coat makes sense. The Obamacare bullshit would have you believe doctors just wear lab coats out because whatever!

    5. Trigger Hippie

      I’m sure they’ll be giving Bill Nye shit over wearing the same getup any day now.

      1. DiegoF

        Sarah Palin was at her self-aware (dare I even say witty? She is somewhat smarter than she is given credit for) best when she said of his climate change expertise, “Bill Nye is as much a scientist as I am.” Still my favorite Palin moment, I think.

        1. Trigger Hippie

          My favorite ‘Palin moment’ involved a film starring Lisa Ann.

          1. DiegoF

            The one where she ate out Hilly, right? AKA the official sexual fantasy of Planet Earth.

    6. R C Dean

      I don’t the people slagging on Ivanka for a photo op realize who comes off looking like a shallow, petty asshole.

    7. Akira

      Yea, it’s totally creepy when politicians wear apparel associated with occupations to which they don’t actually belong.

      Also, why do they hate women doing science?

  49. AlmightyJB

    “the NAACP and CBC, also armed with little to no information, called on officials to classify it terrorism and to make sure they find out the motivation of the bomber since its allegedly targeting black and latino communities”

    The feds are too busy seeking revenge for their party losing the last election. Also, black people would appreciate it if you both stopped saying idiot things.

  50. DiegoF

    A previous link took me to this one on the suggestion strip. Boys and girls, it’s time to play…Feeder, or No Feeder!

  51. trshmnstr

    I’m working on getting my roof replaced and the first place I called was really strange. First, the guy was doing a pressure-style sales tactic, which confused the hell out of me given that I was the one reaching out to him with $15k in business. Second, he wouldn’t give me a fucking quote for the work he was going to do, which is especially weird given that I wanted a few extra things done (that he didn’t seem very interested in discussing). The only intriguing thing about this company is that they guarantee your only out of pocket expense was your insurance deductible. Essentially, it was the CarMax model for roofing.

    Anyway, I’m gonna pass on these guys and try to get an actual quote from somebody else.

    1. Pass for sure, but it’s pretty common for roofers in my experience to not give a quote until they’ve actually been out to do an estimate.

      1. But under that circumstance, you’d expect them to want to schedule a time to see the property and provide said estimate.

      2. Semi-Spartan Dad

        x2. I called 5 roofing companies recently and none would give a quote over the phone. Only two showed up to give quotes. The hired one never actually showed up to do the work. I ended up hiring a couple local rednecks instead who were all to happy for the work.

      3. trshmnstr

        To be clear, I asked him to schedule a time to come out and do an estimate and he refused. I then asked him to put together a ballpark work order so I knew what he was going to be taking to my insurance company, and he refused.

        1. TK

          Well what the hell? How do you run a business?

          1. Number.6

            They rely on being able to overcharge the insurance company on a pretty consistent basis.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            These guys exist in every slice of residential construction. It’s not as bad in commercial.

            I always tell people if they’re willing to fuck over the insurance company that pays them on a fairly regular basis, they’re definitely willing to fuck you over, who they’re probably never going to work for again.

          3. trshmnstr

            The funny thing was that he insinuated that if I went with a cheaper bid, I’d be committing insurance fraud.

          4. SimonD

            We used to call the bid process fighting for a license to screw the customer. (I used to sell equipment, so I dealt with a lot of contractors. )

            Think of them as politicians without the fake charm.

    2. CPRM

      Don’t you have brothers or cousins you can pay in beer?

      1. trshmnstr

        I do, but they’re 500 miles away and this project is going to require some significant redecking and gutter replacement. Probably not something we could accomplish in a long weekend.

        According to the insurance adjustors, this roof may be original to the house (1968). I’m skeptical about that, but I don’t doubt the roof is as old as me (1988) if not older.

    3. TK

      I used to paint houses (actually sell painting contracts, really), and we couldn’t do a quote until we were at the house. Difficulty and the type of surfaces were big factors in the costs.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Generally speaking, the roofers that advertise the most on TV are the ones you want to avoid, along with the ones who work out of a 1978 Ford pickup.

      Hire a reputable company that carries sufficient insurance and will warranty the work.

      Make certain your quotes are detailed, including the brand of the roofing materials. Then make certain that is what they actually use.

      Where are you located?

      1. trshmnstr

        Northern VA

        1. Number.6

          Way too close to far too many government cheese recipients. Your chances of finding an honest man is low.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          See if you can get Baker Roofing out of Richmond to look at the job. They’re reputable.

    5. Hi, ignoramus here: why is there any desire for them to reach out to your home insurance provider? Is the degradation due to normal wear and tear on the roof? Something like that is covered by a home policy?

      I’m in a similar position here – home was built in ’81, original roof was discovered to be pulp by the firm building our home addition due to the complete lack of venting in the original construction, and looking at a $9k quote for the retrofit on the 2 largest sections.

    6. R C Dean

      I had to have a roof replaced awhile ago in Chicagoland.

      Hired a guy (don’t remember how I found him; probably a recommendation from somebody). He shows up with two pickups full of Mexicans, not a single piece of safety equipment, and the whole thing was done in a little over a day, including some replaced decking. Got a nice discount for cash (and a case of Corona). The only thing I had to clean up after they left was a couple of Corona bottles.

  52. CPRM

    I think a lot of you need to see a gastroenterologist, seems like a lot of food gives you the shits.

    1. Number.6

      Having my gall bladder out actually helped. I can eat almost anything now – except Pizza Slut.

      1. SugarFree

        Pizza Slut gave me chlamydia.

      2. Trigger Hippie

        As I said on a thread a few days ago, I’m pretty much healed up from a minor ulcer now. But during that time I had to drastically cut back on all things spicy or acidic. Oddly enough, the occasional slice of Pizza Hut was about the only thing I could stomach as far as pizza was concerned. I attribute that to the fact I find it rather bland and THEY ALWAYS SKIMP YOU ON THE SAUCE! Cheap bastards…

        1. DiegoF

          Never skimp on the grease though, God bless America.

          I’d say it’s my favorite pizza chain by a wide margin. Fast-food/takeout, that is. I make no pretense to know the sit-down chains, which are mostly regional anyway. (And none of those regions are New York City.)

          1. commodious spittoon

            Honestly, I don’t mind it. But I also eat it with ranch, so perhaps I have no gastrological expertise on which to stand.

          2. DiegoF

            ranch

            *backs away from heretofore courteous and respectful pizza discussion, face contorted* Oh! …Oh!

    2. DiegoF

      What? Isn’t Rufus the only one anally leaking all over the place? And he knows what’s wrong with him; it’s his inability to digest lactose, a common genetic condition among ethnic Canadians.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Is that what’s behind the flappy head syndrome, all those cheese curds?

        1. DiegoF

          Their sphincters are flappy too. It didn’t make it into the show very much. Terrance and Philip were able to control their condition and monetize it to some extent, turning the misfortune of their people into something less tonally discordant with a comedy.

    3. Rope Snake

      It’s because they’re constantly drinking alcohol. It’s not the food giving them the shits.

  53. Gilmore

    “”The announcement comes amid a civil rights suit, led by New York Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman, accusing The Weinstein Company, Harvey Weinstein and his brother Bob Weinstein of civil and human rights violations. “

    Because of course that’s what he’s doing.

  54. CPRM

    Woman accused in murder of Kim Jong Un’s brother says she thought it was a prank for a Hidden camera show.

    On Tuesday, the court heard that Huong thought she was playing a harmless prank for a hidden camera show and only knew Kim was dead after police told her. Her lawyer, Hisyam Teh Poh Teik, said Huong told police that Mr. Y put an oily substance on her hands and told her to rub her hands together before smearing it on Kim’s face, but that she didn’t know it was VX nerve agent.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Jamie Kennedy strikes again.

      1. DiegoF

        He was going to make him watch Son of the Mask, but Pyongyang nixed the plan for human rights reasons.

    2. R C Dean

      So if she had VX rubbed into her hands, how is she not dead?

      1. trshmnstr

        I’m guessing it’s only deadly when inhaled and she got lucky by washing her hands before she touched her own face.

        1. Number.6

          No, VX is somewhat skin-permeable. There’s stuff we’re not seeing here. Even if it weren’t, she’s got active VX a foot from her face.

          Not buying this.

  55. The Late P Brooks

    Progressive tsunami!

    At a live-streamed town hall event on Monday night, Senator Bernie Sanders once again circumvented cable news to host a 90-minute panel discussion on poverty, the decline of the middle class and the consolidation of corporate power.

    He was joined in Washington by Senator Elizabeth Warren, director Michael Moore and economist Darrick Hamilton while roughly 1.7 million viewers tuned in to watch online, according to Sanders’ office.

    ———–

    The panelists were keen to highlight solutions to rising inequality, and almost all agreed on the importance of strong unions.

    “Unions built America’s middle class. It will take unions to rebuild America’s middle class,” said Warren, to thunderous applause.

    The need for progressive taxation was also stressed. Speaking about lobbying efforts behind the recent tax cuts, she added: “We have to call it out for what it is: corruption. This is an organized effort to take over our government, and make the government work better and better for a thinner and thinner slice of America.”

    Speaking to the Guardian, Sanders also warned about the growing concentration of corporate power. “When you have companies like Amazon that have extraordinary power, when you have companies like Facebook that to a significant degree control discourse, am I concerned about monopoly power? Absolutely. We need to have the kind of discussion that Congress has not had yet.”

    It’s a winning message, anti-ca[italism. “We’ve got this goose, and it lays golden eggs. We should kill it, and eat it for dinner!” Who woudn’t vote for that?

    1. DOOMco

      woo!

    2. Trigger Hippie

      To paraphrase Sarcasmic at TOS: Corporations control the government. So in order to control the corporations who control the government we’ll need more government. But that doesn’t work because the corporations control the government. So the solution to control the corporations who control the government is even more power for the government. But that still doesn’t work because the corporations still control the government. So we must…you get the gist.

    3. CPRM

      “We’ve got this goose, and it lays golden eggs. We should kill it, and eat it feed it to our political superiors for dinner!” Who woudn’t vote for that?

    4. commodious spittoon

      Shorter Bernie/Pelosi: You dumb rubes should embrace the same transfer schemes and anti-business policies that turned Detroit into a worker’s paradise.

      1. CPRM

        “Also, did we make it clear we are going to redistribute ‘their’ wealth, and not ours? You guys got that, right?”

      2. AlexinCT

        Funny how a couple of rich, white, liberal, socialism tyranny peddling, multi-millionaire, one-percenters are telling the masses how evil that system they milked to make themselves rich, is evul, huh?

        Fauxahantes, or is it Liawatha, forgive me for pointing out she is a white lib until she does that DNA thing.

        1. R C Dean

          The DNA test is irrelevant. No tribe claims her, and she never did anything to be a part of the Native American community. She never qualified as an affirmative action Indian, period, full stop. Harvard went along with her obvious lies because Harvard wanted to be able to claim an affirmative action scalp, and didn’t care that they had to give a very rare faculty position to a mediocrity to do it.

          Don’t get distracted by the DNA test.

          1. Spartacus

            I said this before on an earlier thread: she has nothing to gain by a DNA test, and she will never ever do one. There is no forgiveness in Progland; if the test shows she has been lying, she will be instantly defenestrated by those same people who right now think she should run for president.

    5. trshmnstr

      The need for progressive taxation was also stressed. Speaking about lobbying efforts behind the recent tax cuts, she added: “We have to call it out for what it is: corruption. This is an organized effort to take over our government, and make the government work better and better… “

      I like Lizzie better when she stops talking mid sentence

    6. DiegoF

      *Rubs hands together maniacally* Yes, yes, Democrats…just like that. Feel the thunderous applause wash over you. That is America. They love you!

    7. Number.6

      The 2018 democrats are determined to turn the whole US into the The Twentieth Century Motor Company of Starnesville.

    8. R C Dean

      Unions built America’s middle class.

      Not small businesses. Not farms. Not anything that actually produces something. A bureaucracy (because that’s what a union is), yep, that’s what built America’s middle class.

  56. Count Potato

    “MIC DROP: Ben Shapiro sums up ‘Facebook hullabaloo’ in 3 simple TRUTHS that Zuckerberg will HATE”

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/03/20/mic-drop-ben-shapiro-sums-up-facebook-hullabaloo-in-3-simple-truths-that-zuckerberg-will-hate/

    1. Number.6

      You won’t believe #2!

      1. One weird trick!

      2. trshmnstr

        You know who else had an unbelievable #2?

        1. AlexinCT

          Before or after Taco Hell?

        2. MikeS

          Oprah?

        3. Number.6

          At least half of the episodes of the original Prisoner?

    2. DiegoF

      Does he also have three simple tricks for better skin? Man is 35…Looks 13! Doctors (except one) hate him!

  57. Gilmore

    “”It was unclear why Bryant was running naked. TV Station CBS17 reported mental illness may have been a factor. The Cumberland County sheriff’s office says he had been arrested 24 times since 2006. The last four times for indecent exposure, reported CBS17″”

    sort of like how the ‘excessive use of force by police’ subject was (stupidly, counter-purposively) turned into “HURR DURR STRUCTURAL RACISMS” by the idiot-left…

    …there is a genuine opportunity to talk about “mental healthcare reform” in the US; but it would first involve explaining to people the entire history of state-sponsored institutionalization, and the horrors it involved, and then the reasoning behind Jimmy Carter+ Reagan both agreeing to shutter state-run facilities in the late 70s/early 80s.

    instead, the left wants to turn it into “We need a federal database which spies on people’s mental state”, which is an idea so bad that its only possible when you have millions of wealthy, stupid lefties like we do in america.

    1. TK

      instead, the left wants to turn it into “We need a federal database which spies on people’s mental state”, which is an idea so bad that its only possible when you have millions of wealthy, stupid lefties like we do in america.

      Well, you see, these programs designed by Democrats are always amazing until a scandal breaks out about the horrible conditions and abuses that occur within the program’s buildings.. then it becomes obvious that those evil Republicans caused it because they cut the funding!

    2. DiegoF

      Well, if that’s what the Left wants they’ll get it, because the Right’s go-to rebuttal to “tighter gun control,” when it’s not an even more blatant caving on due process, is to scapegoat the mentally ill and their due process, and shake their heads in disgust at the bleeding heart coddling of the crazies that resulted in the Carter-Reagan era reforms. Nobody seems to regard the power to commit citizens to mental institutions without criminal prosecution as a power that must be watched extremely carefully by a free people. Because, you know, there certainly aren’t any real-life countries we can look to as a cautionary tale. It’s all speculation.

      1. Gilmore

        -de””the bleeding heart coddling of the crazies that resulted in the Carter-Reagan era reforms.””

        Yeah, the motivation wasn’t even remotely about ‘coddling the crazies’; De-institutionalization involved a combination of factors which neither left nor right really own.

        those “reforms” sent large number of crazy people to jail (who should have been in hospitals); and it threw lots of institutionally-dependent people out into the street, which resulted in homelessness explosion in the 1980s.

        There were arguments that “it will save money” AND “its more humane”; but as we all know, ‘good intentions’ have little to do with the actual outcomes.

    3. Akira

      It’s odd to me that Lefties bemoan Trump’s comments about a possible Muslim registry, but they think all kinds of other registries are wonderful ideas.

  58. The Late P Brooks

    I am Amazon, destroyer of worlds

    Like few other types of retail, grocery stores are neighborhood anchors. It’s one of the reasons that food “deserts”—that problematic term for communities with few fresh eating options—are so vexing to study. Supermarkets are associated with healthier communities, but that’s not simply because they offer access to produce. It may also relate to the social capital they provide. “Especially in urban neighborhoods that have higher-than-average crime or poverty rates, a grocery store can serve as a community center—one that stays open late, generates foot traffic for the surrounding area, and features familiar faces,” writes Civil Eats. People seem to feel better about their neighborhoods when there’s a supermarket there, and worse when suddenly there’s not. Charles Platkin, the executive director of the New York City Food Policy Center at Hunter College, recently told the New York Times, “When a supermarket in your area closes, it feels like you’re moving backward.”

    ——–

    But to me, Amazon Go represents something more chilling than a direct threat to storefronts. It feels like a physical embodiment of the larger social transformations its online parent has helped create. A segment of upscale-good shoppers—people like me, spenders on kombucha and goat cheese—will get to shop hassle-free, whether it’s online, at a Whole Foods, or one of its newly decked-out competitors. That’s great for us. But that leaves a lot of other people out of the equation, because they can’t afford online delivery, or because they live in neighborhoods where groceries can no longer justify the cost of operating. (At least one online petition has been launched to encourage Amazon Go to accept SNAP benefits, the federal food assistance program.) That could fray cohesion in those communities and, maybe, push apart the social mix that grocery stores can do so well. And never mind all those retail workers, who more or less disappear from the privileged shopper’s view.

    I sure miss the picturesque vision of those horses’ asses all in a row, down Main Street, when I took the buggy into town to the mercantile exchange.

    Good grief. This woman is undoubtedly the target market for the “shopping experience enhancements” somebody linked to the other day. She lingers in the fruit department, wistfully imagining a stranger’s “accidental” caress, and the ensuing awkward flirtation-disguised-as-apology. Unless he’s ugly, or he’s wearing shoes which cost less than $250.-. Then it’s attempted rape.

    1. Raven Nation

      “a grocery store can serve as a community center”

      You know, for people who call themselves progressives, they seem to live in the past a lot.

      1. commodious spittoon

        And unwittingly parroting Jane Jacobs, whose “mixed-use” theories run contrary to the very progressive notions of civic social engineering…

        1. DiegoF

          LOL I am far from an urban planning expert, but I get no small amount of amusement at what a perversion the Jacobs cargo cult has made of the actual woman’s theories, turning everything they touch into ersatz Celebration, FL simulacrums of what she seemed to like about the 1960s West Village. Just about the only things they actually kept are the two most questionable aspects of her philosophy: her fanatical hatred of automobiles; and her “eyes on the street” theory.

      2. DiegoF

        250 years of beautiful history from Robert Owen to Bernie Sanders, you’re goddamn right they’re living in the past!

    2. TK

      That could fray cohesion in those communities and, maybe, push apart the social mix that grocery stores can do so well. And never mind all those retail workers, who more or less disappear from the privileged shopper’s view.

      Um, what social mixing? People don’t chat up strangers at the grocery store unless they’re in a small town. If they’re talking about the mixing of classes, they’re wrong too. The rich people go to or pay people to go to Fresh Market, the upper middle class people go to Wegmans and Whole Foods, the low-to-middle class people go to Harris Teeter and Safeway and the poor people go to Aldi and the food banks. All of these stores are within 5 miles of my home.

      1. tarran

        About the only social mixing I’ve encountered at the supermarket is:

        1) My wife and I couldn’t reach a box of cereal that was pushed back on the top shelf of the cereal aisle. A 6′ 5″ beanpole was walking by with his 3 year old son. My wife (who is like 5′ 1″) asked him politely if he could grab the box, and he did it without any sweat. His kid looked up at him with the pride of seeing your dad demonstrate his superpowers.

        2) My wife and I were shopping, and she started sniggering. I looked at her questioningly. “Didn’t you see that guy who just walked by?!? He was totally checking out your butt!!!!” I denied such a thing was possible. She told me I was utterly oblivious. Teased me mercilessly the rest of our time there.

        Yeah, I guess #1 was good. I could do with less of the straight-outa-UVA rape that was #2.

        1. commodious spittoon

          A 6′ 5″ beanpole was walking by

          Here I was hoping your wife climbed him like Jack. Or Mario.

        2. DiegoF

          You are hereby excused from the shameless humblebraggadocio of #2 by your charming and justly proud assertion #1 of being a fellow shorty. just how tall is the Mrs.’s sexy spouse, if she is 5’1″?

          1. tarran

            5′ 8″, and I couldn’t reach the gorramed box.

        3. trshmnstr

          “grab it by the bean pole”

      2. commodious spittoon

        Some memorable interactions I witnessed in the old neighborhood at our little slice of grocer’s heaven…

        A couple fat slobs and their pre-teen children filling a shopping cart to brimming and attempting to walk out with it. When confronted by security, they abandoned the cart and mosied back to their car.

        A man having to forfeit his bottle of mouthwash. “I think you’ve been drinking, I’m not going to sell you this.”

        Countless runners hoofing it with twelve-packs of beer.

        The liquor department being chained off several times after a sting caught the store selling to minors.

        Getting dogged by security when I went with my SIL and nephew, because she brought in the stroller. Good look, guys.

        I ran into my barber there, once, so there’s your community for what it’s worth.

    3. commodious spittoon

      If downscale shoppers can’t afford shipping costs… why are grocers serving downscale neighborhoods threatened by online retail?

      This pablum always reminds me of screeds in the early twentieth century warning that department stores represented a unique threat to consumers, because they’re ill-lit and the aisles are cluttered. Times change, habits change, and somehow, unless we embrace spotty socialist thinking like this, we keep getting richer. You know who’d probably love to make short bus trips to get out of their food deserts? Venezuelans.

    4. Akira

      It’s one of the reasons that food “deserts”—that problematic term for communities with few fresh eating options

      I can attest to this; I live in an official USDA food desert. The only options within walking distance are a Kroger, a meat market that sells mostly local foodstuffs, a farmer’s market in the summer, a bakery, a bulk health foods store, and several restaurants. Clearly, the free market has failed to provide me with adequate food security.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        I live in an official food desert. I can ride my bike to 2 grocery stores. 3, once the new one finishes construction.

        They aren’t even trying any more.

  59. The Late P Brooks

    Yeah, the motivation wasn’t even remotely about ‘coddling the crazies’; De-institutionalization involved a combination of factors which neither left nor right really own.

    I blame Ken Kesey.

  60. B.P.

    “Meanwhile, the NAACP and CBC, also armed with little to no information, called on officials to classify it terrorism and to make sure they find out the motivation of the bomber since its allegedly targeting black and latino communities (except the FedEx location, obviously).”

    To remove the stain of racism from this whole situation, the Austin bomber must now blow up a James Taylor concert.