Tuesday Afternoon Links – As Nasty As They Wanna Be edition

It’s Almost Nasty

A bloc of House Democrats is calling for an ethics investigation into the widespread practice of lawmakers sleeping in their offices, arguing it’s an abuse of taxpayer funds.

More than two dozen members of the Congressional Black Caucus signed on to a letter obtained by POLITICO to Ethics Committee Chairwoman Susan Brooks (R-Ind.) and ranking member Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) asking for a probe into the “legality and propriety” of such conduct by members of Congress.

“There’s something unsanitary about bringing people to your office who are talking about public policy where you spent the night, and that’s unhealthy, unsanitary — and some people would say it’s almost nasty,” said Rep. Bennie Thompson of Mississippi, the top Democrat on the Homeland Security Committee.

The CBC’s push targets a practice popular among conservatives triggered by former Rep. Dick Armey, an architect of the 1994 “Republican Revolution.” Lawmakers often sleep in their offices to showcase their thriftiness and their aversion to the Washington swamp.

But it may violate House rules or federal law, according to Democratic critics.

No word on the proximity to nastiness involved with making unpaid interns sign ironclad NDAs, or the details of the slush fund totes normal and above board duly appropriated monies used to pay them off after [redacted] puts [redacted] in their sweet, pink [redacted].


Tennessee woman’s lawsuit claims trooper groped her, pulled her over twice in hours

During the first stop, Lloyd asked Wilson twice if she had taken any prescription drugs, the report said.

Wilson said she takes a sleeping aid, the report said. Lloyd asked if it was Ambien. She said that was the one, but said she only takes it every other night.

“I don’t take any narcotics,” she reportedly said. Lloyd responded, “It is a narcotic.”

The paper pointed out that Ambien is not considered a narcotic under U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration guidelines.

The video shows Lloyd—who was hired by the department in 2015 and served with the 82nd Airborne Division in Iraq– ordering Wilson out of the truck, the report said. Wilson alleges that Lloyd put his hands inside her waistband and touched her buttocks and genital area.

Lloyd stopped Wilson a second time near her home over the tint on her truck windows, the lawsuit alleges, according to the paper. The lawsuit alleges that he told her, “We have to stop meeting like this.” Although the first interaction’s audio was recorded, Lloyd claimed the battery on his microphone died for the second, Effler’s review said.

Spoiler alert: She’s white, so survives the encounter. Also: NEVER TALK TO COPS MORE THAN YOU HAVE TO.


Model, Photographer Plead Guilty Following Nude Photo Shoot In Monroeville Shopping Center

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – A man and woman have pleaded guilty following a nude photo shoot at a busy shopping center in Monroeville last year.

Michael Warnock, a self-proclaimed adult photographer, pleaded guilty to taking pictures of a nude model at the Miracle Mile Shopping Center.

“The result today was a $300 fine, which we feel is fair and appropriate. These were some decisions made by both people that were less than advisable,” defense attorney Ryan Tutera said.

Tutera says his client viewed his rendezvous with then 21-year-old nude model Chelsea Guerra as artwork

“Under certain sets of circumstances, some would call this art and under certain sets of circumstances it could be art. But, there are time and place restrictions on this type of behavior,” Tutera said.

Judge Jill Rangos scoffed at the idea saying that young families frequented the Monroeville shopping center, meaning kids could have seen Guerra while nude.

She called their decision foolish and compared it to streaking at a big football game

Los Doyers tracked down her NSFW Flikr stream for you pervs.


Why I’m boycotting events with no female speakers: #SayNoToManels

For every “manel”, there’s a bunch of smart women sitting in the background, being denied the opportunity to show their knowledge and raise their profile.

For every all-male speaker lineup, there’s a bunch of hardworking women who will miss out on their next promotion or payrise because they haven’t demonstrated “thought leadership” in their field of expertise.

For every stage occupied solely by men, there are a host of amazing women who will never get a chance to shine.

Manels. Oh, Sweet Meteor of Death, we lift our voices in prayer that we might end this scourge of lame portmanteau portfemateau.


 

Comments

516 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon Links – As Nasty As They Wanna Be edition”

  1. Clearly the solution to our epidemic of mass shootings with semi full auto assault-style military grade war weapon child murder machines is for all women to get large breast implants.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7318788/Womans-size-D-breast-implants-save-her-from-gunshot.html

    Many of these girls are early adopters of the new policy.

    http://archive.is/rgDG9

    1, 3, 6, 15, 21, 26, 29, 31, 32.

    1. Florida Man

      I call BS. Silicone is not going to stop a rifle round.

      1. Shhhhhh! You’re going to talk all those women out of opting for DDs!

        1. Florida Man

          Sorry. I uh, heard crunches make you bulletproof too!

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Well, fluid does a better job of stopping a high velocity round than it does against a slower round.

        The mythbusters did one about bulletproof water

        1. DenverJ

          Whilst living along the Rio Grande in Truth or Consequences, NM, I remember 9mm rounds skipping off the water… Zing… Zing… zing

        2. Galt1138

          I saw that episode. They shot a .50 cal into an Olympic swimming pool. If memory serves, it didn’t damage the pool.

          1. Number.6

            Bullet would have fragmented way before it got to the bottom.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Nice.

    3. Galt1138

      6. Oh my.

    4. Galt1138

      Wait. 15 is better than 13!?

  2. Can we change the name of the CBC to “The Lefty Racist Club”?

    1. Gordilocks

      As a former Canadian, I approve of this message.

    2. Gordilocks

      Oh shit you meant Congressional Black Caucus.

      Works either way.

      1. Happy accident.

  3. TL;DR – Your embarrassingly small member will never satisfy a woman.

    https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/evolution-of-penis-size

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Amy: Psst, look what life was like before genetic engineering.
      Leela: Those poor 20th century women.

    2. Florida Man

      So as long as the woman in your life is happy—and 85 percent of women like their man’s package just fine.

      The flip side is 15 of us have unhappy partners…

      1. That 15% can delude themselves into thinking it’s because their manhood is too enormous.

        1. Florida Man

          *looks down*

          Yeah, that’s the ticket!

          1. Michael

            +1 crossed sword

  4. Juvenile Bluster

    Spoiler alert: She’s white, so survives the encounter. Also: NEVER TALK TO COPS MORE THAN YOU HAVE TO.

    FTFY.

    The only words you should ever say to a police officer are “I will not talk to you until I speak with my lawyer”.

    1. “Am I under arrest?”, if not, “I’m leaving.”, if so, “I’m exercising my right to remain silent.” all work too. But yours is more succinct.

    2. SugarFree

      I knew if I left it out, someone would complain and if I put it in someone would complain about the wording, with or without the ending caveat.

      Thanks for the no-win situation. You have now become my mother.

      1. Florida Man

        I’m not mad, just disappointed. 🙁

    3. Gadfly

      But do you actually use that in all encounters? How does that go when you get pulled over for speeding? Do you both sit there until your lawyer arrives, does the police just write the ticket without asking any questions and send you on your way, or do you get hauled down to the station?

      1. Trials and Trippelations

        I dont see how stating you reserve your right to remain silent while the cop gives you a speeding ticket is an issue.
        I think at the very least the suggestion is that you state you reserve your right ti remain silent for all the bogus follow ups
        Where are you going/coming from
        Have you been drinking
        Any drugs in the car
        Have you been drinking

  5. More delicious clickbait worthy of an SF linkathon.

    https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/a4883/12-porn-actresses-vs-women/

    “6. Getting a facial[…]Real woman: ‘This is actually kind of hot. But is it going to cancel the effects of that actual Groupon facial I got last week?’”

    Dunno if I’ve just been with the wrong women my whole life but I can’t imagine a single one of them thinking this after getting her face ejaculated on.

    1. Raston Bot

      was it the mention of Groupon that ruined it for you?

      1. She could’ve gotten her a much better deal on Living Social by sharing the deal with her friends. Nothing kills a (((boner))) faster than overpaying.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          sharing the deal with her friends.

          That’s what I’m looking for in a woman.

    1. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!1111!!!!!!

    2. SugarFree

      Didn’t fit the theme, bruh.

      1. Florida Man

        No worries. I just didn’t want to go OT on OMWC’s post.

        1. SugarFree

          He deserves it.

      1. Winston

        Wait a minute I thought “far-right” was synonymous with “white supremacist”?

      2. Florida Man

        Well I am a white male so, res ipsa loquitur…

      3. Gordilocks

        I’m not sure who I hate more, Southern and some of the collectivists she rolls with, or Media Matters. Can we just ignore all of them?

        1. ruodberht

          Moral equivalence is a hell of a thing.

          1. Gordilocks

            If you think Southern is some kind of radical individualist who isn’t tailoring her style and message to segments of the white nationalist crowd, I have some beachfront property for sale.

  6. Winston

    Fun facts: For almost 30 years the Democrats were the party of the blacks and the segregationists. Gotta love the two-party system.

    And judging by the alien and Sedition acts and the Know-Nothings Immigrants have always favored the Democrats no matter what their beliefs. Huh.

  7. Chipwooder

    But it may violate House rules or federal law, according to Democratic critics.

    House Rules, federal law, whatever – it has to violate SOMETHING, right?

    1. RAHeinlein

      I watched the Fed Chair testimony last week – not one coherent, or event Fed-related question, by a single member of the CBC.

      I’m now curious about the actual rules related to Congressional office use.

    2. The Other Kevin

      They are targeting Republicans so yes, it definitely violates the (mumble mumble mumble) and furthermore (mumble mumble)! We will not allow those uncouth cads to get away with this!

  8. Broadcom shouldn’t be allowed to buy Qualcomm because dirty foreigners might put backdoors in their chips might not let us put backdoors in their chips:

    Such a company, if subjected to national or terrorist interests adverse to America, could install lockout features to block our security agencies from monitoring mobile data. The possibilities for damaging U.S. security are limitless.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Duncan Hunter is one of the biggest assholes in the Congress. Which … says something.

      1. Chipwooder

        Well, he was a Marine, so….yeah, of course he is.

    2. C. Anacreon

      I’m sorry, I don’t go for these backdoor shenanigans.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Jesse claims that he can change your mind.

        1. jesse.in.mb

          I would never make so bold a claim!

      2. Rasilio

        well there goes your career in gay porn

  9. Florida Man

    How is sleeping in an office “nasty”? I honestly don’t get it.

    1. SugarFree

      Because respectable Congressmen are supposed to fucking in there.

      1. Well they have to have somewhere to pass out after the coke runs out and the interns have been sent to buy Plan B for themselves.

        1. SugarFree

          I bet if you hit it with a blacklight, the entire Rayburn Building would light up like a rave.

          1. Chipwooder

            As drenched in bodily fluids as the local Knights Inn, yeah

          2. Please be urine.

          3. Galt1138

            Reminder to self: Don’t read SugarFree’s comments while eating.

    2. Chipwooder

      People who live in studio apartments can never have guests over, apparently.

    3. Mad Scientist

      Because republicans are doing it.

    4. Suthenboy

      Have you ever listened to members of the CBC give speeches?

      1. Chipwooder

        I did hear Hank Johnson suggest that putting too many people on Guam would cause it to capsize.

        1. dbleagle

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

          How that Admiral did not start laughing shows extreme self discipline.

      2. Florida Man

        I can honestly say no.

    5. Suthenboy
      1. Florida Man

        Also, no.

        1. Suthenboy

          Oh, C’mon. It’s a riot.

          1. MikeS

            Oh man. You got me hooked, Southen!

            This one is great. Midget = the “M” word

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Thanks! I think my Brain just Shrank…….

      3. Wowsers. That’s not what that helium is for …

  10. Excellent companion music to SF’s selection.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHb1UDAX-_o

  11. Winston

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Communist_Party

    After Mandela’s death in 2013, the ANC confirmed that he had been a member of the SACP and served on its central committee.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Alliance

  12. wdalasio

    Lawmakers often sleep in their offices to showcase their thriftiness and their aversion to the Washington swamp.

    But it may violate House rules or federal law, according to Democratic critics.

    I’m really trying to figure out what goes through someone’s mind to say that they have a problem with integrity or thriftiness. I mean, seriously, has anyone from the CBC maybe stopped, took a step back, and thought about it? Do these guys really want the image of black politicians to be “objects to frugality and thinks politicians should play the game”?

    1. invisible finger

      The only thing that goes through a Democrat’s mind is a breeze.

      1. The Other Kevin

        I picture them walking around saying “REPUBLICANS BAD! DEMOCRATS GOOD!” like Phil Hartman’s Frankenstein character on SNL.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Seasons greetings from CBC!

      2. Not Adahn

        The only thing that goes through a Democrat’s a politician’s mind is a breeze. more!

    2. RAHeinlein

      Setting aside political party, consider the outcry if “white” Representatives objected to CBC Reps engaging in the same behavior.

    3. Chipwooder

      If you read the entire article, it’s clear that trying to make political hay out of this is merely secondary – the real goal is pushing for a congressional pay raise.

      1. Sean

        That’s what I got out of it too.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        No raise for your part time job. End of discussion.

      3. Winston

        I recall one of the reasons for pay raises was that it would make less willing to take bribes. How did that work out?

        1. SimonD

          How about this.

          1. Raise Representatives’ pay to $3 million per year (adjusted for inflation)
          2. Make Congress subject to all laws that regular citizens are.
          3. Make the penalty for a congress critter accepting a bribe to be life in prison and forfeiture of all assets.

          How many of them would go for that deal, do you think?

    4. Mustang

      “They’re making us look bad! How can we complain about identity politics if the Nazis are sleeping in their offices while we sleep in our mansions!”

      Side note: how many are actually doing this? I’d guess it’s a very small number. There’s not enough room for the cocktail parties.

    5. commodious spittoon

      “There’s something unsanitary about bringing people to your office who are talking about public policy where you spent the night, and that’s unhealthy, unsanitary — and some people would say it’s almost nasty,”

      THIS is what you dumb motherfuckers want to fight over?!

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Sacrifice for the good of the nation

    The Forbes 2018 Billionaires List is out — and it’s bad news for President Trump.

    The president has dropped more than 200 spots since last year to No. 766 on the list, where he’s tied with more than 20 others. The magazine estimates his net worth at $3.1 billion, down from $3.5 billion last year.

    Forbes said that Trump’s fortune fell in part due to declining Manhattan real estate values, as well as lower revenues at several Trump golf properties.

    But I thought he was plundering the world as President.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      So let’s see…
      You have the Obamas and the Clintons, who both had their net worth increase by a factor of 500? because of the presidency. And then you have Trump, who had a decrease in net worth.

      Tell me more about corruption and special interests, please. I’ll be right over here.

      1. Mustang

        It’s different because reasons.

        You see, nobody wants to support a Nazi. Everyone wants to support the Resistance.

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        yeah, but lol ur mom gay.

  14. Tonio

    So, I’m calling BS on the CBC.

    First, I’m pretty sure each congresscritter has his own, private bathroom, perhaps even with a shower. Definitely showers at the on-site gym facilities.

    Second, they can’t even point to the alleged law or regulation. Not confidence-inspiring.

    1. Mad Scientist

      It’s icky. Therefore it should be illegal.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It makes the others look bad, that’s why it should be illegal.

    2. Brochettaward

      Sugarfree is appropriating Heroic Mulatto’s culture by posting Me So Horny. It totally had me hoodwinked as to who wrote the article in question. There. I said it.

    1. Just Say’n

      Zero current members. Which reminds me of the robust economic section for the Libertarian Socialist caucus in the LP

      http://dankertarians.com/category/economics/

      1. Winston

        Well they got the chair of St. Louis county council. I’m sure he is solving things down in Ferguson.

        1. Winston

          Except they don’t. He got defeated in 2016.

  15. MikeS

    Manels. Oh, Sweet Meteor of Death, we lift our voices in prayer that we might end this scourge of lame portmanteau portfemateau.

    I laughed. Out loud, even.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    A bloc of House Democrats is calling for an ethics investigation into the widespread practice of lawmakers sleeping in their offices, arguing it’s an abuse of taxpayer funds.

    Hatching criminal conspiracies is okay, just don’t nod off.

    1. C. Anacreon

      I still don’t quite get how it’s an abuse of taxpayer funds. Would these offices otherwise be rented out in the evenings? Does it somehow cost more if an office is occupied during the evening than not (other than the minor electricity bills, I would guess)?

      I’m trying to figure out how this even became a thing for them. Were they in the midst of a CBC meeting and the sleeping issue came up, and some of them actually said “this is an outrage!” “Where people sleep is nasty and filthy!” (what does that say about them, by the way? I tend to think of our master bedroom at home as rather nice — certainly not nasty.)

      1. Playa Manhattan

        “I’m trying to figure out how this even became a thing for them.”

        Imagine someone with a sub-85 IQ trying to set up an “AHA! GOTCHA!”

        That is how this became a thing.

        1. C. Anacreon

          You may have a point there, as sub-85 IQ people often soil their beds. So perhaps the “nasty’ comment is because they think the other congresspersons are actively voiding and defecating in the middle of their offices.

          1. R C Dean

            It’s always projection. Always.

  17. PBRstreetgang

    Question for the legal minds in reference to the age discrimination lawsuit filed in Oregon against Dick’s. In that suit, the plaintiff requests punitive damages against Dick’s for discriminating against him. IF the Oregon legislature were to convene tomorrow and amend Oregon’s public accommodations/anti-discrimination statute making in OK to age discriminate in the sale of guns, would that moot plaintiff’s claim for punitive damages? My sense is that it would not, but a colleague is adamant it would.

    1. Private Chipperbot

      I can backdate a contract, but I don’t think you can backdate a law. /shrug.

      1. Tonio

        You can make laws apply retroactively, but it’s somewhat rare.

        1. PBRstreetgang

          Apply retroactively to extinguish a litigant’s damages claim for conduct that was illegal at the time the conduct was performed? Again, I don’t know that answer, but that just doesn’t sound right.

          1. Tonio

            That’s why it’s rare. Yo either end up criminalizing behavior which was thought to be legal at the time, or (as in this case) giving a mulligan to someone who violated what was the law at the time. Neither sits well with the public; it’s too banana republic.

          2. Caput Lupinum

            You can’t try someone for something that was legal at the time they committed the act. The federal constitution forbids ex post facto laws like that on the federal level for criminal laws, and also forbids the state’s from passing them as well. Civil law like this is a different matter though, and I’m not entirely clear on it.

          3. Tonio

            Thanks, Cap.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        “I don’t think you can backdate a law.”

        I work under the assumption that FYTW is always in force.

    2. Caput Lupinum

      I’m not a lawyer, but I work at a firm, I could ask around. I would assume no, that the case would revolve around wether the law was broken under the state the law was in at the time of the alleged offense.

    3. Florida Man

      Not a lawyer, but how do rental car companies get away with it?

      1. PBRstreetgang

        Get away with age discrimination? I don’t know, but my assumption is that most states have special statutory exemptions that permit car rental companies to engage in age discrimination. Oregon has age related exemptions for places that sell alcohol and weed.

      2. Caput Lupinum

        Probably because no-one had brought a suit against them in Oregon yet? car rental companies can’t refuse to rent to young drivers based on age alone in New York.

        1. Florida Man

          Interesting. I’d never really thought about it before.

          1. Caput Lupinum

            For what it’s worth, while I’m not sure on the laws on age discrimination in Pennsylvania, I was able to rent a car when I was 22 years old for a month, with the caveat that my instance wad the one footing the bill. Don’t know if I’d have been allowed to otherwise.

          2. Caput Lupinum

            Insurance was, not instance wad.

          3. Bobarian LMD

            That belongs in Q’s link below.

          4. Gadfly

            I’ve had a similar experience elsewhere, where I could only rent a car at a young age if I paid a premium, but this addition fee was waived when they found out what insurance company I had.

          5. SimonD

            Those rules changed in a short period of time, too. In 1983, I was able to rent a car from the airport at 17 years old (I was going to look at a college). However, in 1992, my sister couldn’t rent a car at 23, even with her own insurance.

            Both of these instances were at major airports (mine was at DFW, sister’s was at McCarron).

        2. PBRstreetgang

          Huh. So, unless Oregon has a special statutory exception, car rental companies probably can be sued there for refusing to rent to 18 year olds. Interesting.

          1. thepasswordispassword

            Last I’d heard most of the rental companies had changed their tune on this. They rent to kids but charge them an increased rate until they hit 25.

          2. Gadfly

            I can confirm this was the case ~5 years ago.

          3. Rasilio

            thing is even that is probably illegal under Oregon law unless there is a specific exemption allowing them to do it somewhere

      3. Suthenboy

        I would guess it has something to do with insurance? The car rental company isnt refusing to rent, the insurance is refusing to insure without a ridiculous deposit or fee.

    4. Isn’t the term ex post facto?

    5. CPRM

      Wouldn’t that be ex post facto?

      1. CPRM

        damnit, refresh!

    6. ruodberht

      A cause of action can be property and the repeal might count as a taking without just compensation.

      I am not your lawyer, etc etc

  18. Chipwooder

    Is it gauche to resurrect discussions from the previous post? Not that I actually care anyway….so someone said that All the President’s Men is a piece of shit. Only half right IMO – as a depiction of what actually happened with Watergate, it’s a piece of shit, but as a movie it’s excellent. Same thing as JFK – laughable as history but an entertaining movie.

    1. C. Anacreon

      Yes, the movie was way inaccurate, talking a lot about Deep Throat but never once showing Linda Lovelace or Harry Reems.

  19. Playa Manhattan

    Multiple rent controlled apartments like Charlie Rangel? Now THAT’S ethical!

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Ethnical?

  20. commodious spittoon

    For every “manel”, there’s a bunch of smart women sitting in the background, being denied the opportunity to show their knowledge and raise their profile.

    Hey, they could always invite Christina Hoff Sommers around for a friendly chat.

    1. creech

      REfusing to attend is cutting off your nose etc. The most valuable thing about these conferences is networking with the people you meet there, not listening to some blowhards up on stage (e.g. Hillary Clinton) tell you how they almost did it.

  21. KibbledKristen

    I got nothin’, except FIFY

    NEVER TALK TO COPS

    (is there a circumstance where anyone is required to speak a word to a cop?)

    1. I don’t think so. Except maybe to say “I’m exercising my right to silence.”

    2. SugarFree

      Yes. You are now required by Supreme Court precedent to identify yourself.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiibel_v._Sixth_Judicial_District_Court_of_Nevada

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I identify as a lobster.

        1. Gordilocks

          PetersoNazi!

      2. MikeS

        You know what other black-clad group said you must identify yourself?

        1. SugarFree

          Not sure if you are, but I remember back when not being asked for our papers by the police was a point of American pride, one of the reasons we were so much better than the USSR.

          1. MikeS

            I do remember that. On the big and small screens, being asked for your papers was often used as a plot device to show a group as being evil. I miss those days.

          2. CatoTheElder

            In the old WWII movies, the SS officer would say, “Papiere bitte”.

            In realworld USA, the TSA has dispensed with the pleasantries.

    3. Juvenile Bluster

      If you don’t tell them specifically that you’re exercising a right to silence and that you want to talk to a lawyer, they’ll find things to use against you.

      Otherwise, say nothing.

      1. thepasswordispassword

        Even then they can come back to you later and give you a new chance to waive your rights. And god help you if you “volunteer” anything when you’re not explicitly being “interrogated”

      2. grrizzly

        How does it actually work in practice if you don’t have a lawyer on retainer? It is a hassle to find a lawyer on the spot even if you can afford him.

    4. Lachowsky

      https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE

      I will show this to my children before they reach their teens.

  22. Suthenboy

    Those women being excluded by manels will probably get a guest spot on The View.

  23. The music itself and wouldability of the lead singer almost make up for the fact that they’re Canadian.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttqMGYHhFFA

      1. jesse.in.mb

        I think my mom had a perm like that once in the ’80s…

        1. From a box or at the salon?

          I think my mom had a perm like that too. And the big glasses.

          1. C. Anacreon

            I used to get a kick out of those old Oglevie Home Perm commercials, where a guy goes up to a freshly-coiffed woman and asks, “Salon perm?

            As in, did you actually spend the outrageous fortune it costs to go to the neighborhood hair place, or did you do that at home out of a box, as it looks like?

            I always thought that if that had happened in real life, the woman would throw her drink in the guy’s face.

      2. jesse.in.mb

        And now I’m listening to Gordon Lightfoot. Damn you, Canada.

        1. C. Anacreon

          Sundown, you better take care, if I find you’ve been creepin’ round up that stair.

    1. Gilmore

      “wouldability ”

      she looks like she was once a he.

      and she also looks like ENB. not in a good way.

      I’m much more sold on the twins in the lederhosen pulling each other’s pigtails @2:30. Both, please.

      1. Number.6

        That was exactly what I thought. ENB’s older brother, after transitioning.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s a man, baby!

    3. I’d still go for it. I have, admittedly, low standards.

    4. I have a picture taken with the band where it appears as if Emily Haines is grabbing my ass.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Get thee behind me, Poppy!

    For many people who live with chronic pain, opioids can seem like the difference between a full life or one lived in agony. Over the past few decades, they have become go-to drugs for acute pain, but Dr. Erin Krebs, with the Minneapolis Veteran’s Administration Health Care System and the University of Minnesota, says the science about the effectiveness of opioids for chronic, or long-term, pain has been lacking.

    “The studies that we had out there were short-term studies and mostly compared opioids to placebo medications,” she says. “From those studies, we knew that opioids can improve pain a little bit more than a placebo, or sugar pill, in the short term, but that’s all we knew.”

    Solving the opiod epidemic, one anecdote at a time.

    1. You are suffering because G-d wants you to and any attempt to alleviate that suffering is against His plan. You don’t want to defy the Creator do you?

      1. Mad Scientist

        Mother Teresa knows what’s best for you!

    2. Private Chipperbot

      So give placebos to addicts. If they have the same effect, you’ve just solved the opiod crisis…

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Placebo addiction is a terrible thing.

        “This is your brain on sugar?”

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I’m already 2 packs of skittles deep today, and it’s not even 3 o’clock.

          1. jesse.in.mb

            That sounds like a lot of Coricidin…do we need an intervention?

    3. Florida Man

      Bull. Shit. Opioids work a little better than sugar pill? Come get your gall bladder out and I’ll skip the dilaudid and give you a sugar pill.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        So…uhhh… what are you going to do with that dilaudid?

          1. jesse.in.mb

            Fair enough.

            *Doesn’t get wrecked on narcotics with Florida Man expecting to have raunchy drug facilitated sex, but passes out instead because dilaudid*

          2. Florida Man

            passes out-

            Well one of us will be having raunchy sex…

          3. jesse.in.mb

            Awwww. You’d Cosby me?

            This is why you’re my favorite.

    4. SugarFree

      Painkillers don’t work and they are so powerful as to be incredibly dangerous!!!

      I didn’t believe this line of bullshit from a DARE officer about marijuana either.

      I’ve been on opioids for pain for an extended period of time in the past. They work. Anyone can tell the difference between agony and not-agony except drug warrior morons and their rigged studies.

    5. Tonio

      So, Erin has signed a pledge saying that she’ll never take opiods even after surgery or when suffering from cancer, right?

    6. The Last American Hero

      What does this have to do with the creepy blond chick?

      1. Tonio

        Golf clap.

    7. invisible finger

      Christ what an asshole.

      The “opioid crisis” mostly applies to people taking them who AREN’T on them long-term. People who have been on them long-term know what they do; people who have been on them for a short period of time can get serious side effects (like suicidal thoughts). People can’t seem to comprehend that initial exposure is more dangerous than long-term exposure for some things. Some of the idiocy is the drug warrior steadfast belief that no person can build up a tolerance to ANYTHING!

  25. Gilmore

    ” her NSFW Flikr stream for you:”

    2/10, could not fap to that

    1. Bobarian LMD

      You need to try harder.

    2. Suthenboy

      The photographer is pretty good technically but the shots are all copies of other photographers. The model isnt all that hot.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        No way! They’d kick me off the beach.

      1. Gilmore

        yeah i’ll take the least bony one of the bunch.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Look stylish on the beach in Demi’s Crochini

        Italian cuisine?

    1. SugarFree

      “Hey, fat face!” isn’t really a cat-call, ma’am.

      1. Just Say’n

        Man, you’re all about faces: “gay face”, “fat face”, etc. It does add a new dimension to the insults

        1. SugarFree

          I call ’em like I see ’em, old face.

          1. Just Say’n

            Well played. Respect

      2. C. Anacreon

        I like the one classically British reply tweet: “Sad old looking trout”

        1. SugarFree

          That is a good one. I love collecting insults from other cultures.

          1. But Enough About Me

            One of my faves is “old horror.” I aspire to be called that by the young ‘uns someday soon.

          2. I prefer “crazy old coot” myself.

          3. Number.6

            There are lots of regional British insults which generate genuine wtf over on the East coast.

            Too mean to give a door a bang

            Like a drink of water all dressed up.

            A personal favorite “Fur coat, no knickers

    2. Good Lord please don’t let this shit come here…

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Why not. A black man getting arrested for cat calling a white woman would in no way remind anyone of a negative time in American history.

        1. +1 Emmitt Till

    3. Suthenboy

      I dont think that would turn out like they think.

    4. God only knows what they’d do to Mollie Sugden.

  26. Chipwooder

    Notre Dame somehow having trouble putting Pitt away. Very amusing.

  27. Just Say’n

    https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/971038364739817473

    This speech will not get shutdown by a bunch of illiberal conservatives.

    “Both sides”

    – Robbie

  28. Gilmore

    The “actual alt right” seem to be trying to make news again.

    Richard Spenser must think its time to get punched in the face again in order to boost his membership #s. Or maybe they’re angry that people like Robby can’t tell the difference between them and ‘sargon of akkad’.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Why is it that every white supremacist group marching looks like a Faces of Cardiomyopathy parade?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        And by that, you mean Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?

        1. Just Say’n

          Hey, leave alcohol out of this. Don’t start making alcohol look bad just because of some mentally deficient race peddlers

        2. Florida Man

          I’ve heard the studies on FAS focused on fall down, live in the gutter poor drunks and excluded WASP day drinkers.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            Really? I thought you just start with the low nasal bridge and work backwards, regardless of where it came from.

        3. Heroic Mulatto

          I think you’re on to something here.

      2. Just Say’n

        Because they are raised on good wholesome white people food like butter, lard, and processed cheese. They have no time for your exotic foods like vegetables and fruit. Further, all their exercise is comprised of running away from effeminate white kids who are playing revolutionary. Bow before, these Super Men!

      3. RAHeinlein

        Movie night is always Beaches?

      4. Pan Zagloba

        It proves their genetic superiority.

      5. Suthenboy

        Have you looked closely at the face of Nikolas Cruz?

        What kind of person would be drawn to a white supremacist group?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Have you looked closely at the face of Nikolas Cruz?

          I have many fetishes.

          That is not one.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            *marks red letter day on the calendar*

          2. Suthenboy

            OH, C’mon. The bushy beetle-brow doesnt do anything for you?

        2. Count Potato

          Nikolas Cruz was a white supremacist?

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            He killed some people, so yeah, duh, obviously.

          2. Gilmore

            he was a trump-supporter, so yes

  29. Rebel Scum

    “manel”

    “We say people-le”. – J. Trudeau

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      I say, ‘Shithead’ for Trudeau.

      1. But Enough About Me

        You’re not alone.

  30. Just Say’n

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/thinking-about-dead-libertarians/

    Bill Kaufmann talks about his time at TOS (but before there was a site, obviously)

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You know who else thinks about dead libertarians?

        1. Lachowsky

          Just for funsies, take a trip to TOS and look at any gun themed article from the last week or so. My god, that man has gone insane.

    2. Lachowsky

      “These were not desiccated souls, archetypes of homo economicus, fitters of the shopworn caricature of libertarians as profit-maximizing, selfishness-extolling asocial creeps, which describes approximately zero of the libertarians I have known.”

      Somebody said something nice, if not entirely true, about us.

      1. Number.6

        You mean we all fail the True Libertarian Test?

        Aw shucks!

  31. The Late P Brooks

    High crimes and misdemeanors

    “While the Hatch Act allows federal employees to express their views about candidates and political issues as private citizens, it restricts employees from using their official government positions for partisan political purposes, including by trying to influence partisan elections,” the agency’s report says. “Ms. Conway’s statements during the Fox & Friends and New Day interviews impermissibly mixed official government business with political views about candidates in the Alabama special election for U.S. Senate.”

    NPR, always on the front line in the war against government corruption.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They were all over Bob Menendez.

      1. Suthenboy

        And Lois Lerner. And Peter Schmuck. And…

        I am getting too buzzed for this. That could go on all day.

    2. Just Say’n

      It’s all true. I don’t recall any time in American history that the spokesman for the president has ever voiced support for a candidate of their own party. Unprecedented, clearly

  32. Rufus the Monocled

    “The problem with America right now is that people are making gun laws based on emotion, not data.”

    Who said that? WHO SAID THAT?

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/03/03/lol-shannon-watts-sounds-alarm-about-this-scary-looking-gun-self-beclowning-ensues/

  33. Count Potato

    “Actor Cynthia Nixon is poised to jump into the race for governor, challenging Andrew Cuomo in a Democratic primary in September.

    NY1 has learned that Nixon has begun the process of assembling staff to lay the groundwork for a competitive campaign.

    Sources say Rebecca Katz and Bill Hyers, two veterans of Mayor Bill de Blasio’s first campaign for mayor, are expected to play a major role.

    Nixon hasn’t officially declared her candidacy, and a spokesperson claims a final decision has not yet been made.

    NY1 statehouse reporter Zack Fink will have more on the story at noon on NY1. And NY1 will have more comprehensive coverage tonight on Inside City Hall at 7 p.m. and 11 p.m.”

    http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2018/03/06/itch-alert–actress-cynthia-nixon-laying-groundwork-in-run-for-governor

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      IIRC, based on an interview I saw, she’s as dumb as a brick. It might have been one of the other actresses on that show, but I don’t think so.

      So she’s perfectly suited for the job.

      1. Suthenboy

        It is hard to see how anyone could be worse than Cuomo but as cynical as I have become it wouldn’t surprise me.

        1. Winston

          As long as genocide, invasion and famine are not occurring things can get worse.

        2. Eliot Spitzer used the police detail of the Senate Majority Leader to spy on him.

      2. SandMan

        Didn’t she actually get in trouble (with the left) by saying something like for her “being gay was a choice”; shitstorm ensued.

        1. SugarFree

          She back-pedaled to “I’m non-optionally bisexual but only have lesbian relationships by choice.” Which should please exactly no one.

    2. SugarFree

      Her angry Park Slope lesbian schtick will play well upstate.

      1. R C Dean

        Would.

        and/or

        These euphemisms!

  34. Count Potato

    “The Kennesaw State University LBGT Resource Center recently produced a new pamphlet that adds “ne,” “ve,” “ey,” “ze,” and “xe” to the list of gender neutral pronouns.

    The “Gender Neutral Pronouns” pamphlet, a copy of which was obtained by Campus Reform, tells students that “some people don’t feel like traditional gender pronouns fit their gender identities,” and thus lists alternatives that students can use instead.

    These pronouns are accompanied by a conjugation chart listing how they might be used as a subject, object, possessive, possessive pronoun, and reflexive. For example, to refer to a student who identifies as “ne,” one could say “Ne laughed” or “That is nirs.”

    To refer to a student who identifies as “ve,” the pamphlet explains that one would say “Vis eyes gleam” or “I called ver.”

    The pamphlet—which lists seven different types of gender neutral pronouns—encourages students to ask their friends, classmates, and coworkers how they identitify before making any assumptions.

    The guide does warn, however, that students “may change their pronouns without changing their name, appearance, or gender identity,” and suggests that preferred pronouns be re-confirmed regularly during “check-ins at meetings or in class.”

    “It can be tough to remember pronouns at first,” the guide notes. “Correct pronoun use is an easy step toward showing respect for people of every gender.””

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10583

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I suggest that “asshole” works as well as any of the alternatives.

      1. SugarFree

        “Asshole laughed.”
        “That is asshole.”
        “Asshole’s eye gleamed.”
        “I called asshole.”

        Checks out. And if you need a collective you can use “Asseshole” like “Attorneys General.”

        1. MikeS

          “Correct pronoun use is an easy step toward showing respect for assholes of every gender.”

        2. Mad Scientist

          Snowflake also works quite well, but it just doesn’t have the punch of asshole.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        At least everyone would know who you’re addressing.

      3. Suthenboy

        How about ‘that crazy asshole’?

    2. Sean

      There’s a good chance I’ll live the rest of my life and never have to use one of those terms. Should someone prove me wrong and try to correct me to use one of them, they will get a resounding “go fuck yourself”.

    3. tarran

      My gender pronoun doesn’t appear on the list.

      It’s:

      – Nominative = “alowbeardictmaketermliti”
      – Genitive = “hernittemermenniantermoc”
      – Accusative = “aitkarreedilinerposmicabgostonitalesstoksmundiou”

      … and if you guys so much as mispronounce a single syllable, I will report you to the Canadian Human Rights commission. /glares truculently at Rufus

      1. Lachowsky

        My preferred pronoun is paterfamilias.

      2. Rasilio

        My prefered gender pronoun is …

        PatriarchialLordAndMaster

        1. Hyperion

          I’m thinking ‘Yer Prefect Lordship Shitlord Supreme of the Obturian sector of the thirty first quadrant of the outlying sector of the nether regions of the space known as Obliviontarnarxexemithsanthroper’.

          Any inability to state this correctly or bow after stating it is a micro-aggression punishable by total banishment from society. Get woke you racists.

    4. Suthenboy

      Indistinguishable from insanity.

    5. jesse.in.mb

      What you’re going to leave out:

      The guide was first discovered by Francis Hayes, a freshman studying computer science at Kennesaw State, who told Campus Reform that the pamphlet was distributed Tuesday by administrators in the school’s Student Center. […]

      Hayes also criticized the pamphlet for potentially confusing impressionable students, claiming that Kennesaw State is “in the early stages of Cultural Marxification.”

      “The guide will confuse students regarding what gender they are,” he speculated, adding that “none of those pronouns exist in the English language, so it’s pretty much ridiculous that they’re trying to teach this.”

      Neither does “Marxification” kiddo, you’ve just stumbled on one of the best things about conveying meaning in English!

        1. jesse.in.mb

          In the past decade, there has been a transformation of French intellectual life, a thorough “de-Marxification.”

          Please note it’s in quotes the first time he uses it in the text. He’s acknowledging that it’s not an actual word and hoping you’ll forgive him for the neologism because you know what he means by it even if it isn’t really a word. Winston has also just stumbled on one of the best things about conveying meaning in English!

          1. jesse.in.mb

            I always thought people were at least half-joking when they talked about you, but I guess I was wrong. You do realize you’re reinforcing my point by showing how obscure a term it is and that it conveys meaning without being “a real word” in a prescriptivist sense, which is what Hayes is both blindly clutching at and violating at the same time, right?

          2. Just Say’n

            Not to interfere here, but everyone invents new words that only the “in group” understands (how many people use the word “statist”?). I think the crux of the argument is whether or not you are being forced to lend legitimacy to a word. No one is being forced to accept “Marxification” as a word, which cannot be said for what the speaker is criticizing

          3. Mad Scientist

            We’re only half-joking when we talk about his mom being open for business. The truth is she does it for free.

          4. Winston

            You claimed the kid was making it up and was thus being hypocritical. The term pre-dates him by decades.

            Also “marxification” is clearly an outgrowth of “Marxism”. The 1960 example I am sure is referring to an actual event involving Marxism.

            These gender-neutral pronouns are being made up out of the whole cloth which is a bit different though I could be wrong.

          5. Winston

            “No one is being forced to accept “Marxification” as a word, which cannot be said for what the speaker is criticizing”

            There’s that. Or that adding 7 new pronouns is a headache. Or what good a pronoun is that has to be “re-confirmed”.

          6. jesse.in.mb

            whether or not you are being forced

            One of my running issues with Campus Reform “articles” by “student reporters” is that they imply that the force of the university is 100% behind the Orwellian language politics (and complete fucking farce) represented by having 20-something pronoun variants represents.

            As soon as you click through to any of the articles it ends up that the local LGBT group had an informational flier, that was funded by tuition because they’re a registered club with a small stipend, just like the Young Republicans, frats, and any other special interest club and that the “administrator handing out fliers” was their faculty advisor.

            I just think it’s important to remind people that Campus Reform’s articles are hacky student activist reporters who have lifted their entire political idiom from r/pol, and then scream that some other group is doing the same but from DU or something.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        I think Marx said it best when he said

        “I wouldn’t trust any school that would have me as a student”

    6. Gadfly

      “It can be tough to remember pronouns at first,” the guide notes. “Correct pronoun use is an easy step toward showing respect for people of every gender.”” (emphasis added)

      That seems like a contradiction to me. I’d like to tell them “make up your mind”, but since

      …students “may change their pronouns…

      is a thing, I don’t think it would work. Also, given this:

      For example, to refer to a student who identifies as “ne,” one could say “Ne laughed” or “That is nirs.”

      I’m going to say that Monty Python was ahead of the curve.

    7. That’s not conjugation; that’s declension.

    8. Only seven?

      I can’t. Even.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    The “Gender Neutral Pronouns” pamphlet, a copy of which was obtained by Campus Reform, tells students that “some people don’t feel like traditional gender pronouns fit their gender identities,” and thus lists alternatives that students can use instead.

    I vote we just use “it” for anybody who opposes gender-specific pronouns.

    1. Count Potato

      I would go with “they”. While I think gender neutral pronouns are generally stupid, they’re still people.

      1. R C Dean

        They is plural.

        It is non-gender specific singular.

        It, err, it is.

        1. Finnish doesn’t have gendered pronouns, using hän for both he and she. Yet feminists would still claim there isn’t gender equality in Finland.

          And supposedly many people in colloquial Finnish use se instead of hän, which means “it”.

        2. Count Potato

          “It” is non-gender specific singular. Generally, English nouns don’t have gender. Using “it” is acceptable for animals, inanimate objects, etc., but it was never acceptable for people. While it’s true that “he” used to refer to either gender when that gender was unknown. And it’s still “correct” English. “They” has been in common usage a singular pronoun for a very long time. Today, most people say “can you get that person to move their car” instead of “can you get that person to move his car”. But no one says “can you get that person to move its car”. Languages change. Just like few English speakers still refer to countries as “she”. Although they still do for ships.

          Regardless, calling people “it” sounds insulting sounds pejorative and dehumanizing. And civility is more important than grammar.

    1. Mad Scientist

      You have the most amazing toys!

      1. Now if he would just use those toys to take videos in landscape mode. :-p

    2. Suthenboy

      My father worked as a metallurgist in a tubing plant once. They alloyed the steel and forged seamless tubing, I mean the best stuff you can get. I remember visiting several times. Your videos always remind me of those visits.

      Most vivid memory: After forging the tubing they would use compressed air to blow a precisely sized steel ball down the tubing to be certain it was sized properly. The workers would catch the ball by hand as it exited. I suppose they did this because it was easy and repetition makes for boredom which makes for carelessness. On one of my visits we were watching them do this and one of the tubes was either slightly bent or slightly constricted and the ball hung up. After the pressure built up it blew the ball past the constriction and…I bet you know what happened. The look on that guys face as he held his hand up and saw a perfect round hole the size of a silver dollar in his palm will be burned into my brain forever.

      1. Number.6

        That ranks up there with a former cop and allegedly departmental firearms instructor who is now retired, and wanted to go back into training people on their pistol permit part time to make a few bucks.

        He had been doing this until last September, at which point he ND’d a hollow point 9mm into the palm of his left hand during a training session, ripping out a couple of metacarpals. He’s healed up now and wonders why nobody wants to train with him.

        smdh

      2. Lachowsky

        “repetition makes for boredom which makes for carelessness.”

        I have witnessed 3 life threatening industrial accidents in my life. The 2 worst of them involved guys doing the same thing they had done thousands of times without incident. One guy crushed his pelvis between a fork lift and a wall. The other swung a bundle of steel with a crane into himself. He broke his pelvis, severed a hand, ruptured his spleen, and burned his body.

        Complacency will get you killed.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Here was today’s Office, looking North towards Cucamonga peak

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I’ve been around construction equipment and sites for most of my life. I’ve been on jobs where a guy walked off the fifth story as he was backing up with a measuring tape. I was around when a guy dropped a two ton load on his own head. The list of minor accidents is long.

          It doesn’t take much to kill a person.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    “The guide will confuse students regarding what gender they are,” he speculated

    . Yup.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      “I’m gonna mouth rape ya!”

    2. STEVE SMITH SAY, CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

  37. Gilmore

    Anyone have a “preferred favorite argument” (preferably in essay form, or video debate) in the endless “anarchist vs. minarchist” debate?

    i have my own, but i don’t think its actually very convincing to philosophical purists. it amounts to, “the state is inevitable; minimizing its worst effects is the perpetual problem of politics”

    basically, it is a problem never solved. sorry! but that’s what you get

    here’s the anarchist rejoinder – but i think its odd because it basically makes *the very same case*, yet seems to think that “endless idealism” rather than “fatalistic pragmatism” is the better-posture.

    I do not think we will see a stateless society in my lifetime. But I am sure we will not see a state that conforms to the minarchists’ ideals. The closer we get, the better, but I see no reason not to aspire for the best government as Thoreau imagined it: none at all. It’s certainly more consistently idealistic than what the minarchists imagine, and yet it’s at least possible, whereas the existence of a lasting, minimal state is a hopeless fantasy.

    It always seems to me to amount to nothing more than a posturing fashion statement. idealism for its own sake, rather than for its utility.

    i also think it uses a bit of the freudian-projection stuff that the left is always doing; pretending that a minarchist is the “hopeless idealist”, whereas they’re the ones with the practical, incremental point of view.

    as a self-stated minarchist type, i don’t actually have ANY idea of what the perfect govt is; i just want less in almost every area i look into. And less is generally better in most if not all cases. Why not “none”? I’m not sure the argument really matters in the end if both the anarchist and minarchist end up working on the same goal. Screeching about some difference in ideal-philosophical posture seems to me the least useful sort of debate. I don’t really care about Utopia, i’m more concerned with the right-now.

    1. SugarFree

      “the state is inevitable; minimizing its worst effects is the perpetual problem of politics”

      That’s where I fall as well. I don’t want a state, but I think it is unavoidable so everyone should have agreed upon strategies to minimize the damage it does.

      Also, I am not so optimistic about human nature as to believe that stateless society could avoid falling into a Hobbsian war-of-all-against-all. (Which I think leads to inevitable state.)

      1. Gilmore

        I am not so optimistic about human nature as to believe that stateless society could avoid falling into a Hobbsian war-of-all-against-all

        Yeah, i’d add that to my short list.

        1. SugarFree

          I’d also say that most of the disagreement in the AvM debate takes the form of talking past each other with the is/ought fallacy.

          I can agree that we ought to have a stateless society, but until then, how about we deal with the fact that statelessness is probably a very far off and concern ourselves with the here and now?

          1. Gilmore

            most of the disagreement in the AvM debate takes the form of talking past each other with the is/ought fallacy

            yeah, that’s basically what i was saying about ‘fashion statements’ and utopianism

    2. mikey

      I’ve been struggling with this too and this seems to sum it up pretty well. Consider it stolen.
      Just leave me the fuck alone the more the better.

    3. thepasswordispassword

      From the perspective of “does this bring the world closer to or further away from my desired end goal?” minarchism may hypothetically reach a point where it will advocate in favor of the state rather than against it. That point is squishy, movable and varies person to person. Some of it is also the ideological consistency of saying “none” rather than quibbling over what and how much. That philosophical cleanliness or fundamentalism is hinted at in the last line “consistently idealistic.” They’re also making the argument that once the minarchist reaches a certain point, their political will weakens and the ratchet towards more government can begin working again while an anarchist will basically never be satisfied and default to always arguing against the state.

      1. Number.6

        I believe there is an optimal point of minimal government. Should it ever be reached, the job of a vigilant minarchist would be to ensure that government is maintained at that level, given that the purpose of state power is the growth of state power.

        It’s like owning a garden full of mint. It’s not going to keep itself under control.

        1. thepasswordispassword

          A Republic, if you can keep it”?

      2. Just Say’n

        When we get to the point where minarchists are arguing in favor of the state, I think we’ll be in a good place.

        At the end of the day, the local library district and your local government concerns me less than the government that can wage wars and print money. If I disapprove of what my local government does I can easily move out of its boundaries. It’s more difficult to flee a country.

        It also concerns me that certain ostensibly libertarian commentators have made peace with supranational government if it ensures free trade and free migration. These are the people I’d rather argue with than a minarchist or anarchist

        1. SugarFree

          It’s that depressing moment when the “libertarian” candidate running for local office starts a spittle-flecked rant about abolishing stoplights and stop signs. Dude, OK, I guess, but there are larger fish to fry.

          (This actually happened locally.)

          1. Winston

            But what are the “larger fish” and how do you agree on what that is?

          2. Just Say’n

            And then on the opposite end you get the libertarian candidate in Virginia endorsing the concept of putting GPS in cars and charging people by miles driven rather than the gas tax.

          3. Winston

            Sarvis?

            There is the fact that we already have a “big-government is bad but we can’t do anything about it” party and it is named the Republicans.

          4. SugarFree

            I’m just hyper-sensitive to the brand looking crazy. Both stoplight guy and the guy who doesn’t seem to grasp he’s giving a slow handjob with plenty of eye-contact to the omni-surveillance state do that in my mind.

          5. Just Say’n

            If only I were blessed with your gift for metaphors

          6. thepasswordispassword

            That one in particular gets my hackles up because the gas fund is constantly raided for non-road related projects under the flimsiest of excuses.

          7. Winston

            The big problem that libertarians face is that there are not many groups that want less free shit. Also the elites have everything to lose and nothing to gain from libertarians so they oppose it fiercely. Even the mildest lower budget increase will be fiercely attacked.

            Classical liberals succeeded because their policies were a potent attack against Absolutism, Aristocracy and Established religion. Many groups benefitted from the weakening of those groups. Who in America would benefit from the reduction in Federal Government?

          8. AlmightyJB

            It’s not just that. It seems like the default for most people is that if they think something is wrong then it follows logically in their mind that it should be illegal. There sure as hell not going to care if it’s illegal.

          9. Winston

            Another thing: the opposite of purism is sometimes “Good Government” which can mean anything from small cuts to more but “efficient” government.

        2. thepasswordispassword

          If you like clean, consistent, organized, rational thought then the simplicity of fundamentalism is highly appealing and the messy, dirty, complexity of hashing out just what is and isn’t allowed seems to come across as cover for personal preferences. Might lead to suspicion that the minarchist ally doesn’t have a very strong commitment to their ideals and is more motivated by personal emotional attachments. Basic purity spiral issues that crop up with fundamentalism.

          1. Just Say’n

            I’m going to make a criticism about most ancaps that I’ve known: they’re very conservative. Which, some have argued, is due to the fact that in place of the state there should be a moral code that imposes social pressure to behave righteously, which is fair.

            And then most minarchist that I’ve met are, like you say, real wishy washy about actually reducing state authority.

            I sometimes wonder if the debate between minarchists and anarchists is really just a proxy fight between “right” and “left” libertarians

          2. Winston

            Not sure. Many left-libertarians like Richman seem to be anarchist types.

          3. Just Say’n

            That’s a good point. I was thinking of small segment of anarchists. My fault

          4. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I’m a minarchist primarily for the reasons stated above. A state always emerges, usually in the least desirable form.

            If you can restrain it properly, you achieve the longest periods of success (as defined in terms of liberty). However, it is always temporary and the length of the period is, as you say, dependent on the cultural norms of the society in which the state exists.

    4. Gadfly

      Anyone have a “preferred favorite argument” (preferably in essay form, or video debate) in the endless “anarchist vs. minarchist” debate?

      To be glib (*drink*): “The sword is mightier than the pen”

      In the end, the state will always beat the lack of a state, because by its very nature that state is the most efficient means of organizing violence, and violence underpins all sustainable systems. No morality/philosophy or any organization can survive unless it is supported by or protected by violence. It’s not a pleasant thought, of course, but it seems to be the inevitable conclusion of history.

      1. SimonD

        I’m not even certain this is a useful argument at this point. We’re so far away from a situation in which these distinctions matter that our energy is better spent on the areas in which we agree.

        For now (as someone else said), the optimal amount of government is ‘MUCH less’. If we ever reach a point in which it matters, we can civilly debate it then.

    5. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Sure, Lord of the Flies comes to mind.

    6. Lachowsky

      “i don’t actually have ANY idea of what the perfect govt is; i just want less in almost every area i look into.”

      What is the right amount of givernment

      Mises has a collection of Robert Lefevre’s essays in audio form. I have listened to them all and think they are great. This one is on the proper size of the state. I agree with him pretty much 100% here. It’s about 25 minutes or so if you have a little time to kill.

      1. Gilmore

        thanks, that’s the sort of thing i was hoping for.

        1. Lachowsky

          Let me know what you think. And if you like it, I highly recommend listening to the other 30 or so audio essays that he has put out. They are great. I highly recommend one called the first minister of agriculture.

          1. That was great, as much as I love the message the delivery is what sells it. The earnestness and particularly how he calls the black market/drug dealers ‘The Syndicate’ it’s like a Donald E. Westlake wrote a PSA.

          2. Lachowsky

            I agree. All his stuff is great, really. I thank Tarran (I’m pretty sure) who turned me on to him.

    7. AlmightyJB

      “it is a problem never solved”

      I recently finished Frank Chodorov’s “The Rise and Fall of Society” which basically says that same thing. Once men acquire enough property that it needs protecting beyond his capacity then some permission for others to use force on his behalf inevitably follows. The more local the accountability can be kept the better but once you’ve started down that path the shitshow has begun and your probably not going to stop it until it becomes so top heavy it falls over and you start the shitshow over again. It’s a very pessimistic view but I can’t really argue with it. I consider myself a Bastiat NightWatchman State minarchist but yeah I know it’s like buying a cute baby Ctulu. Eventually, it devours everything. I don’t see anarchism to be at all a permanent state either. As they say, power abhors a vacuum. Who has the biggest gang?

    8. AlmightyJB

      “I don’t really care about Utopia, I’m more concerned with the right-now.”

      Yeah, I agree with you as well. Don’t ask me about roads and sidewalks.

      http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    9. Count Potato

      Power abhors a vacuum. There can be a strong minarchy. Whereas anarchy is an invitation to totalitarianism.

      1. Count Potato

        Also, there is no such thing as a political end-game. There never was, and there never could be.

      2. Gilmore

        “Power abhors a vacuum”

        yeah, this too.

        i think if you want historical example of how ‘anarchic’ systems work in practice, the history of westphalian-state foreign relations is probably the closest

        where states effectively operate as individual in an anarchic system. and ultimately the only thing ensuring any ‘peace’ and cooperation is a balance of power. lacking it, and you have endless predation and conflict, which was basically the norm for human history.

        the history of how these states have interacted is not necessarily

    10. R C Dean

      Anarchism is a species of Utopianism, and suffers from the utopian flaw of requiring human nature to be mutable and perfectible.

    11. straffinrun

      While an ancap myself, I can’t stand most ancaps because they seem to want to kneecap the miniarchists at every opportunity they can. The ideal and the possible don’t overlap in the real world we’re living in right now, so the people moving in the same direction are not my enemies. In fact, they should be allies. If you’re in St Louis and want to go to LA, you take the ride from the guy going to Las Vegas and not the ride from the guy going to New York.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Perhaps the miniarchists should have thought about that before pissing on the Dallas Accords.

  38. Gilmore

    “Mousey Communist Catholic” pens very stupid argument in favor of socialism, which (previously mentioned) Bryan Caplan eviscerates.

    Washington Post reads her stuff and goes WOW DUDE GIVE HER AN OP ED THIS IS SOME GREAT STUFF

    1. SugarFree

      Her logic errors glare so brightly you could burn ants with them. I mean, it’s a movable feast of stupidity, but I’ll pluck out just this plum: Her touchingly naive belief that socialism is somehow the opposite of nationalism.

      1. Winston

        Marx and Brabeuf have something to say about that.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      It figures the WaPo would print Breunig. She’s a half wit with opinions that are so ill formed, that I have a hard time arguing with them because I’m not not sure what I’m arguing against.

      Fundamentally, it all seems to be projection with her.

    3. I get lukewarm in the void where my heart should be that the comments are not a complete dumpster fire.

  39. Rufus the Monocled

    I’m watching PIX 11 NY and they’re talking about the pending storm.

    What are you a bunch of pussies?

    Everything is shutting down.

    Also Tamsen Fadal. Nice.

    Sad story about those kids killed in Brooklyn.

  40. Lachowsky

    BTW-

    I prefer SFs format for the links. I’m often posting from work where my cell service is not so great. Not having to clink the link to get the gist of the article is very nice.

    1. Gilmore

      seconded

    2. SugarFree

      Keep that on the down-low, y’all. The others get all sulky about it.

  41. For those who think they’re not making their intentions clear.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/now-theres-play-called-kill-climate-deniers-not/

  42. Gilmore

    Just when i thought “Lets Try Socialism” was the dumbest thing i’d seen all day.

    they pulled me back in, and hit me over the head with this

    David Klion
    ‏Verified account @DavidKlion

    It is basically immoral to drive.

    You’re going to tell me that many people don’t have a choice, and/or that I sometimes drive, and you’re right. So:

    It is immoral not to be politically committed to a world where no one drives. Driving is bad. It should be abolished.

    I believe this is the bright fellow who created the “PostEverything” blog at the WaPo, which has dropped some similar gems of wokeness

    1. Lachowsky

      You will have to pry my cold dead hands from my steering wheel before you make me stop driving.

      1. Hyperion

        You can rest in comfort that 90+% of people will agree with you across all political spectrums. The prediction by many that self driving cars will take over soon is one of the worst ever predictions. Self driving cars may play a role in the near future, but as far as no one driving cars in the next 20 years, that is a complete joke.

      2. R C Dean

        I would say, your cold dead body will be difficult to recover if you try to stop me from driving.

        Fuck.

        Off.

        Slaver.

        1. Lachowsky

          /More thumbs up than the amount of thumbs I currently possess.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      How do I haul my tools to your house to fix your Shit? A Bus? I already drive a Short Bus ffs

      1. SugarFree

        It will like a barn-raising… each of his neighbors in his culturally-interconnected neighborhood will have one of the tools and they will come together with the rich synergy of the information-dense neutral net and crowdsource a fix.

        Or, you know, fuck you, you don’t deserve heating and air, shitlord.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          “you know, fuck you, you don’t deserve heating and air, shitlord.”
          So Much This, Self centered deserving Fuckwads…..

          1. Mad Scientist

            Heating and air conditioning cause pollution and climate change and remove the human experience from the truth of nature.

          2. SugarFree

            +1 If you don’t wash your hair for a month it becomes magically self-cleaning

          3. straffinrun

            True for your ears. I use my mimikaki (ear cleaning stick they ALL use) to pick my nose only.

          4. Yusef drives a Kia

            And Fresh food, and Hospitals, and Commercial buildings, and Computers Worldwide, (Server farms get hot)

      2. Number.6

        You will be issued with a people’s utility palanquin, so you can work for the betterment of der Volk.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          I like this idea, however there would be a caravan of Orphans trailing me……

        2. Yusef drives a Kia

          God I can see it now, “You 2, off to the Supply house for 1/3 hp blower motor, Take these Chickens for payment, it shouldn’t take more than 2 days ’round trip, hurry along”
          Mrs. Customer: I’ll get the guest Quarters ready………”

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Cut him some slack, maybe he’s a Jainist.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      I see the campaign of trying to impractically funnel people into public transit like sick cattle as a way to stop Big Driving.

      It will never voluntarily happen with me unless, of course, the government outlaws it which would be a far left progressive’s wet dream.

    1. Hyperion

      Well, at least he’s proving himself a little less of a wuss than Welch. Maybe. Or not.

    2. Raven Nation

      Deliberate self-parody?

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s Uncle Nick the creepy police officer or maybe it’s Uncle Nick, the Village People aficionado, I’m not sure.

      1. Number.6

        Or Uncle Nick who’s been cast for the broadway production of “Downfall”

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Nasty Nick the 70’s Porn Star?

          1. Number.6

            Embrace the power of ‘and’.

    4. Count Potato

      Hidely ho there, millennials!

      1. Pan Zagloba

        Help! I can’t unsee it!

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      And calls out AntiFa, if they start Shit, He said fight back! Good Times!

    2. straffinrun

      But upon further any investigation…

    3. F. Stupidity Jr.

      “I would have thought by now, Reason magazine, you’d be aware that you can’t trust what the mainstream media says about someone else’s political position.” – Carl Benjamin

    4. Number.6

      Sargon fails any reasonable libertarian purity test, but as with the tactical alliance we should observe among ourselves as ancaps and minarchists, I reserve the right to admit him into the tent for the moment.

      1. straffinrun

        Seriously this^. Politics is all tactical alliances. When you’re lined up against the wall, it’s too late to figure out who was on your side.

    5. Gilmore

      -bPeople are patting robby on the back for correcting his “mistake”

      as tho he had no idea who sargon was prior to this incident, and had to reference Wikipedia and /or Vox before deciding on labeling him a supporter of white-nationalism. because that’s what good writers do when they don’t know anything about their subject: just call them “racists” in print.

      as tho he had no prior history of ever tarring the targets of SJWs as deserving social-backlash-punishment before

      1. Number.6

        It’s a brave man who can admit his mistakes, to be sure.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        At least he corrected. That still puts him ahead of Russia Today, according to Sargon…

      3. Just Say’n

        Robbie is a known progressive. The fact that anyone disputes that is a sad testament to the current state of libertarianism. The man claimed that Vox was a mainstream and that’s where he got the white supremacist talking point. Enough said

    6. Just Say’n

      The Daily Fail got it right, unlike Robbie. Wow

  43. Gilmore

    apropos of nothing –

    i watched half of a recent movie “Wind River” last night.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7WuKdVhrmA

    it is good.

    1. westernsloper

      That looks really good. Added to the list, thanks.

      1. Same director as “Hell or High Water”. Somehow dropped off my radar – and surprisingly despite initial press blast last summer apparently didn’t make any Oscar lists. BTW…who won best actor this weekend?

  44. Rufus the Monocled

    It’s astonishing. Really it is.

    Putin was, apparently, behind the election results in Italy.

    This is what the left thinks. And I use the word ‘think’ loosely.

    Makes sense. They got bitch slapped in America and in a couple of countries in Europe.

    So stick the myth it’s Russia.

    Man oh man just when you thought they could not be any more retarded.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      I think You said that a Year ago,
      /the Gift that keeps on giving

    2. Pan Zagloba

      “Unlimited competence of Vladimir Putin” seems to be one of those topics where hard-left and alt-right are headed for meeting of the minds.
      “Jewish Lobby” and “Hurrah for Tariffs” are couple others.

      1. CatoTheElder

        Putin is even more competent than American leftists and neo-cons think. For the expenditure of a few million dollars on a troll farm and a few thousand hours of FSB efforts, the American political elite has gone completely insane over what should have be considered some pretty useless agitprop.

    3. CatoTheElder

      The left feels Putin rigged the Italian elections. No thinking involved.

  45. Canned green beans with shredded cheddar, sauerkraut, soy sauce and sriracha. Keto AF.

    1. AlmightyJB

      That is interesting.

      1. Surprisingly delicious.

        1. straffinrun

          They have sriracha Doritos where you are? Not a chips eater, but damn those were tasty.

          1. Sriracha makes everything better.

          2. straffinrun

            Don’t like Tabasco, but the story of its creation makes me want to like it.

          3. westernsloper

            The green Tabasco on a black olive, avocado, sausage, and cheddar omelette alongside toasted fresh baked bread with butter and grape jelly is food of the gods and was my go to hangover cure back in the day. The normal Tabasco I like to use on occasion because of memories and I think it goes best with over medium eggs and pancakes w/maple syrup.

          4. straffinrun

            Tabasco on pancakes. *Hurls*

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      Orange Chicken, teriyaki Chicken and Rice, With lagunitas Maximus Pale Ale

    3. westernsloper

      Where’s the protein?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I mix it up, Pork, Beef, Chicken, fish, almost no veggies or Bread

  46. westernsloper

    So if all the Congressperps who sleep in their offices were discreetly pumping some 2 Live Crew tunes would the CBC shut the fuck up?

    I must admit, I was not a fan of rap/hip hop in the 90’s but the older I get the more I like it. What does that mean? The only semi-rap/hip hop album I have ever owned was Urban Dance Squad and they are awesome.

    1. Gilmore

      The only semi-rap/hip hop album I have ever owned was Urban Dance Squad and they are awesome.

      lol, i have that CD. the first one.

      i think they were Dutch or something. or belgian. (googles)

      Dutch! nailed it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_Dance_Squad

      I confess i never really liked their music, but their CD has survived nearly 30 years. probably because i never listened to it.

      1. westernsloper

        Ya, my CD is like new condition too. The song linked is the only song I remember and I actually like it. It was from a time when musicians could still say, “look beyond color of skin.” That gets them sent to reeducation camp now days.

        1. Gilmore

          i think everyone bought that cd. it was sort of like, “Tennessee” by arrested development: a song that got super overplayed, and which sold a bazillion records that had almost nothing else good on it.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            I’ve always preferred “Mr. Wendal” to “Tennessee”.

          2. Gilmore

            i knew someone (probably you) would mention “the other song” as soon as i suggested it was a 1-hit wonder.

    2. DenverJ

      It means that you are entering your second childhood, and thus rediscovering the world without previous bias. Damn, you old.

      1. westernsloper

        When do the new knees and hips arrive for this second childhood?

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Once you go Cylon, you never go back
          /Artificial Everything

    3. Gilmore

      I was not a fan of rap/hip hop in the 90’s but the older I get the more I like it.

      recommended albums:

      – Erik b and rakim, paid in full
      – EPMD, unfinished business
      – Public enemy, fear of a black planet
      – Wu Tang Clan, enter the wu tang
      – Big E Smalls, ready to die
      – Nas, Illmatic
      – Dr Dre, The Chronic

      many others, but you can’t really go wrong w/ anything on any of these.
      *if anyone complains about my obvious east-coast bias, you can fight me i don’t care

      1. Gilmore

        honorable mentions:

        the ‘native tongues’ stuff, other similar ‘slightly less mainstream’

        – De La Soul, Buhloon Mindstate
        – Tribe called quest, low end theory
        – Brand Nubian, one for all
        – Beatnuts, intoxicated demons EP
        – Gang Starr, hard to earn

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Black Flag
          Dead Kennedys, Plastic Surgery disasters
          Motley Crew, Too fast for love
          Megadeth, So far, so good, so what
          DRI
          That’s what you should have listened to in the 80’s

          1. I listened to almost everything. I like music.

      2. I’d add PE’s It Takes a Nation of Millions
        Schoolly D, Saturday Night
        3rd Base, The Cactus Album
        Whodini, Escape
        Slick Rick, The Adventures of Slick Rick

        1. Gilmore

          -sI was trying for mostly “90s” recommendations- or at least things that sounded, production wise, like 90s stuff
          (e.g. beats based on samples rather than drum machines; which is why PE pretty much is always included because of their distinctive use of JB loops)

          its actually sort of a very distinct difference in style, and i find people who are otherwise leery of hiphop find it much easier to listen to stuff when its got a sampled hook they recognize

          all of those are great stuff, regardless. for 80s stuff i tend to recommend Cold Chillin’ label stuff rather than ‘whodini and slick rick’ type stuff (which have good tracks, but not really front-to-back records)

          . e.g. Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Kool G rap, Kool Moe Dee, anything Marley Marl produced, basically.

  47. straffinrun

    Listening to Tom Woods interviewing Rockwell. Rockwell says that Jordan Peterson refused to use the preferred pronouns because it’s “ridiculous”. I’ve heard others on the right and libertarians say Peterson makes the SJWs look stupid, ridiculous etc. I don’t think so. He exposes them for being unbelievably dangerous. We can mock them, but minimizing their potential to do extreme harm is a mistake.

    1. Gilmore

      “”Listening to Tom Woods interviewing Rockwell””

      I confess, my first reaction was hearing “Somebody’s watching me” in my head

      1. straffinrun

        I expected that, but I could remember how to spell Llllewwwelllyn.

    2. Gilmore

      yes. the thing about the people who hate on JP is they seem to ignore the substance of the reason why he became notable in the first place – for opposing a canadian law that would result in compelled speech, and even worse: speech which was *effectively untrue and contradictory*.

      His point about the fact that the SJW types can’t seem to make up their minds about ‘biological essentialism’ vs. ‘social constructivism’ , and were simultaneous encoding entirely contradictory arguments into law in the process

    3. Just Say’n

      I like Tom Woods, but the danger of SJWs probably doesn’t seem so frightening to him, because he, like Rockwell, are already outside of respectable company in the sense that people already smear them. Some of us normal people don’t want to be smeared for our innocuous political beliefs

      1. straffinrun

        They mention it in the interview. People like Peterson seem to have taken the heat of of Tom and Lllewe.

    4. commodious spittoon

      I wouldn’t say Peterson ridicules them, at least, no more than some paternal chiding. I think the reason he rattles them so badly is because he seems genuinely concerned about their mental health. As well he ought to be, they’re incapable of dealing with adversity. They can’t handle any pushback on their ideology. They’re avoidant toward discomfort and resist self-criticism.

      1. straffinrun

        Maybe you’ve seen it already, but his sit down with Haidt tackles a lot of this eggshell head syndrome going on with the left. Big fan of Haidt. A friend of mine (we share some similar political views) keeps pushing Pinker on me. I don’t get the love people have for that guy.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        There are definitely some issues. Other than that, yeh, let’s give “free” post-secondary education. Already 75% of people there don’t belong.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUYpxXGOHBE

        1. straffinrun

          I’ve been thinking about writing a piece regarding how assimilation can’t occur if you have government putting its thumb on the scale. I’m no expert, but 20 years of living among these weirdos has given me a few experiences to draw from.

    5. I’m reading 12 Rules right now. I can’t recommend it any more highly. That guy is headed toward a place among the greats if he keeps this up.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        What I appreciate about Peterson is what he’s doing for people like my cousin. Smart, always leaned conservative but was a tad oblivious to the topics we discuss here re stuff like campuses, culture and the like. Suddenly, he realized ‘holy shit this is problematic’ and right around the time he discovered Peterson who helped ‘crystallize’ or at least put into some perspective of this left-wing irrational madness. Now he’s all over the content we cover – I sent him over to Reason because I figure it’s good to reinforce what he’s discovering. He also made a point I think many who don’t own guns understand about them. Specifically, he resents that fact that they’d prevent him from purchasing and owning one should he ever decide to own one. That’s an important thing to grasp about the issue.

        1. Number.6

          “Sent him over to Reason” – why do you hate him? Childhood jealousy?

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Tuccille is there!

          2. Lachowsky

            2 chili is the class of reason.

          3. We need him here.

          4. straffinrun

            No kidding. Apart from the inside jokes, this place would be considered a branch of classical liberalism a few decades ago. The world moved, I didn’t so much.

          5. You know who else had a few inside jokes?

          6. Number.6

            Kermit Gosnell?

        2. commodious spittoon

          That’s where I am. When I’m ready to start a family, I’ll make a hobby of it. But just because I don’t own one doesn’t mean I’ll countenance attempts to keep me disarmed.

  48. Not an Economist

    Have any of you gunsplained? You really shouldn’t do that … it means gun controllers may not be able to ban guns. Plus they don’t like being corrected.

    1. straffinrun

      Says the cisheteronormativeantidisetablishmentarianism paper of record.

    2. WaPo = fucking joke unworthy of birdcage liner

    3. Number.6

      Fuck yeah.

      I’m constantly told that as a man, I can’t have an opinion on abortion, reproductive rights, the glass ceiling, and most bizarrely, the patriarchy. Finally, I can demonstrat subject matter competence.

      I ram this shit down people like Weinstein’s gob 24/7/52 given the chance.

  49. Feature or bug?

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/study-women-now-leaving-stem-fields-pursue-social-justice-degrees/

    “The efforts to push women into STEM have not only been ineffective, but have backfired.”

    1. straffinrun

      square peg in a round hole makes you walk funny.

      1. That’s not why these ladies are walkin’ funny IYKWIMAITYD.

        1. straffinrun

          IYKWIM? That’s what I meant. BTW, I keep getting logged out automatically after I post. Am I missing some not so subtle hint?

          1. I hate to be the one to tell you…

          2. trshmnstr

            You know who else was excluded as a not so subtle hint?

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            Tulpa?

          4. straffinrun

            村八分? *Cool concept of ostracism*

    2. Gilmore

      Of the 21 female students interviewed, fully one-third left engineering by their junior year. Rulifson and his co-author Angela Bielefeldt identified one factor common to all female students who left: the desire to “help society/other people,” or “social responsibility.”

      The “social responsibility” definition includes “care for the marginalized and disadvantaged,” “environmental conservation,” and “empathy,” the professors noted.

      lets be honest: who was ever helped by things like science, medicine, and technology? what the world really needs is better understanding of the distinctions between “genderfluid” and “genderqueer”

      1. straffinrun

        Clean your room, bitch.

      2. hayeksplosives

        Barf.

        Well, I am trying to do my part for STEM. Granted, I’m a Merchant of Death, but it’s still STEM.

      3. C. Anacreon

        I’m anticipating that some of these switch-over to SJW women will eventually write, protest and sue the tech world for its male dominance, because the only possible reason women aren’t getting the majority of the jobs there is structural sexism.

    3. commodious spittoon

      If I’d been inculcated in the premise that studying STEM isn’t just a good idea but a moral imperative, an obligation to my sex, then found I didn’t have the aptitude or the interest for it, I’d probably convince myself I had a nobler calling in studying something easier, too.

    4. Lachowsky

      HM, you work in academia. I’m a rube who skipped most of Hugh school and took some community college classes on electricity. I blame government funding on most of the idiocity I see out of universities. Am I correct?

      1. I learned how to be a little hard on the Beaver in Hugh school.

        1. Lachowsky

          A lack of ability to spell simple words is a symptom of my inability to give a shit about school.

          1. straffinrun

            HM knows much more than I do, but I do contract work for Unis. Imagine a company that is just one giant HR department. That’s how Unis feel to me.

  50. Rufus the Monocled

    lol.

    I’m listening to the Nick DiPaolo show and a black guy just called into the show. He’s an Uber driver and says liberal white girls treat him worse than any group.

    1. Completely unsurprising.

    2. Number.6

      Liberal white girls treat everyone worse than any group.

    1. SIV

      WTF is “private prescription”?

      Does that mean the pommies have to pay “quid” to an osteopath and a “chemist” to score benzos?

      That’s garbage dope, anyways.

    2. Gilmore

      my first reaction was,

      “god, this european Cloud-Rap” fad has really gone too far

    3. C. Anacreon

      Oh, FFS. The author of this piece clearly doesn’t even know the first thing about benzodiazepines in general or alprazolam in particular. For instance, the guy who OD’d didn’t die because of a ‘deadly mixture’ of alprazolam, it was the fentanyl that killed him. If you OD on benzos all you will do is sleep for a long time and be groggy for a long time, it’s virtually impossible to kill yourself with them. And if you’re dependent on alprazolam, if you cold turkey you’re at high risk for seizures — that’s the biggest problem with them.

      Anyone who ‘parties’ with benzos is going to be a pretty boring guy at the disco, slumped in a chair in the corner muttering about how he never seems to have much energy anymore, it must be society and the future at fault.

      Always looking for a new bogeyman, I guess.

      1. CPRM

        Well, they are a depressant that affects the functionality of the lungs, it would take a lot, especially because alprazolam is weak, but if you took too much it could depress breathing enough to cause a problem

        1. C. Anacreon

          You really only get significant respiratory depression from benzos when they are given intravenously, especially IV valium. Taking benzos by mouth, it would be pretty hard to take enough to depress your breathing enough to asphyxiate — you are more likely to asphyxiate from ‘choking on your own vomit’ from throwing up the meds than you would to become hypoxic merely from the medication effect itself.

    1. Number.6

      He got lucky.

  51. Lachowsky

    I have a coworker that I spend a lot of time with. He’s my mechanic. I have been giving him the Libertarian perspective on things for about 4 years now. He is finally starting to catch on. He just text me this-

    If you really think gun control will work or even come close to stopping violence , you are nuts … Our government has already tried this recently with the war on meth . At one time any citizen could walk into any store and purchase cold medicine that they wanted . And the medicine worked the way it was intended to work . For many years this was a common practice for company’s to produce these products and custumers used their products for years without any issues . But after the war on meth started the government decided that these horrible products were too easy for criminals to possess . So they banned these products from not only the common criminal , they banned them from all . And now you can’t get any good cold medicine without going to a Dr. and getting a prescription . And since all these horrible products are impossible for anyone to receive you would think the meth production would’ve at least slowed down . But no !!! You can still get that shit anywhere !! It has only made the common man unable to get the medicine he may need without taking more steps than necessary .
    So in other words , if the government starts making steps towards gun control . Maybe they should take a look back at the war on meth and see it’s not and will never work .

    I’m proud of myself. Spreading the message of freedom one person at a time.

    1. Raston Bot

      I don’t need your mechanic methsplainin to me.

    2. Tundra

      I’m proud of you. It’s always fun to turn someone. 10 years ago, my little brother was a Prius-driving prog, married to a crazy-ass German prog. He’s a great guy, so I just kept making suggestions. Fast forward to today, he’s a Jeep driving, SIG carrying competitive shooter with a love for the free market. And, more importantly, he’s making sure to keep his sons squared away – despite his ex.

      Keep selling. It works.

      1. Lachowsky

        Libertarianism is about individualism. It’s a bottom up philosophy. It can’t be preached from the top down.

        People who belive in freedom and want freedom to be the baseline of our system of government can do more good talking to individuals than trying to gain political power.

        1. Tundra

          Totally agree. I am more about individuals than teams.

    3. CPRM

      I had an intern a few years ago, in downtime I showed him Penn and Teller Bullshit; talked to him a few weeks ago and he’s still down for the cause.

  52. CPRM

    Been getting into my Irish music in preparation the celebration of Saint Patrick. The Dubliners, A Pub With No Beer.

    1. Just Say’n

      St. Patrick’s Day, where everyone is Irish, except the gays and the Italians

      1. CPRM

        And the Mormons, don’t forget the Mormons.

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Equal opportunity! Chinks! and Nigras! FTW!

  53. Yusef drives a Kia

    21st Century, Wife is going to DoorDash some Baskin Robbins Ice cream, Score!!!
    /31 Flavors

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      and they wanted 18$ for delivery,NO

  54. Yusef drives a Kia
  55. Yusef drives a Kia
    1. CPRM

      The original American version of the Banana Boat song was written by actor Allen Arkin.

      1. C. Anacreon

        You brought back a bad memory. I had a roommate in college who used to go around everywhere singing to himself, “get on the boat! Ba-na-na Boat!”

  56. Yusef drives a Kia

    I think this was thought up in a Thunderstorm in Arizona, they make Big Storms There,
    Sudden Death,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95UT6EbkHzI

  57. Yusef drives a Kia

    Bella is a Workout, especially after 17 hours of work, MUST PLAY! MUST CHEW!

  58. Yusef drives a Kia

    A Jack in the Box real Chocolate Milkshake, and Torpedo! , a match made in Heaven!

    1. You do know we’re back in shamrock shake season with McDs right?

  59. Yusef drives a Kia

    Bella,showing Her Potential,
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/OqavdBdwP9gw0CCE2
    ARF!

  60. Yusef drives a Kia

    9:30 West Coast Time and no one is around? Do you all work? Or is that an East coast thing?

    1. CPRM

      I was writing, a continuing story…something you wouldn’t know about, it’s for a different um place.

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        I write, other things,… ummm

        1. CPRM

          Nah, just messin with you. I’ve written three more chapters for Ted and Harvey.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            Late Night Glibs gets Weird IYKWIM

          2. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

            Three more? Damn, son; keep up the good work!

          3. CPRM

            Is the donation perk worth the donation?

          4. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

            Well, I just wanted to help. That said, yes.

          5. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

            Full disclosure: I’ve become hooked on watching live steams of Fortnite players, so that’s been taking up most of my internet time.

        2. CPRM

          Have you seen my not so secret project?

          1. Number.6

            heh.

          2. Yusef drives a Kia

            I used the Same website to design a few Posters for me, With THE SAME FONT!

          3. CPRM

            Youtube?

          4. Yusef drives a Kia

            Mayhave, mayhap?

    1. Number.6

      Aulde faht muzik.

  61. C. Anacreon

    Oh no! A whiny Chicago columnist says Ben Carson went off the plantation, is now a fool rather than brilliant as a result.
    I’m sure Carson’s heart is breaking, and this woman was always his big supporter until he accepted a job from Trump, right?
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    It’s not brain surgery: Carson made wrong call
    He was role model, then said yes to Trump for HUD chief

    by columnist Dahleen Glanton

    Ben Carson should have said no.

    He should have let his phone just ring off the hook when Donald Trump called repeatedly to offer him a job in his administration as secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

    He should have run away as fast as he could the moment he realized that there were “two different Donald Trumps,” which is how Carson once described the president. As an expert on matters of the brain, the renowned neurosurgeon should have known better than to fall into the grips of a deviant with a split personality.

    Carson should not have believed for a moment that the opponent he says he eventually came to think of as “very cerebral, sits there and considers things very carefully” could actually overtake “the one you see on the stage.”

    For Trump, life is a performance. There is no curtain between fantasy and fact.

    Had Carson walked away when he had the chance, he and his family would not be, as he said last week, “under attack by the media questioning our integrity and ethics.”
    Had he acknowledged his lack of experience in the affairs of government and turned Trump down, he could have avoided the embarrassing fiasco that has come to define his tenure at HUD.

    He would not be accused of wasting $31,000 in taxpayer money on a dining room set for his office at a time when Trump is trimming $6.8 billion from the budget of the department that oversees low-income housing for the elderly and poor.

    Had he said no to Trump, HUD’s inspector general would not be looking into nepotism at the agency, questioning whether Carson’s son, Benjamin Jr., and other family members had inappropriate roles in managing department affairs.

    If Carson said no to Trump in the beginning, he would not have been tempted to try and bend the rules as far as his boss has in the White House. Carson would not have had the chance to enlist the help of his son after Trump opened the door by enlisting the help of his daughter.
    Indeed, had Carson not gotten tied up with Trump, he might have been able to redeem himself as American visionary — lauded for his determination not to let adversity stand in the way of his success.

    Ben Carson could have been a role model whom people looked up to.

    But he fell under Trump’s debilitating spell, stepping freely into his abyss of lies, dishonor and deceit from which there is no route for redemption.
    Anyone who falls for such a lure is a fool.

    By most standards, Carson would be considered a brilliant man. It is no small feat to work your way out of poverty to become an acclaimed pediatric neurosurgeon. To graduate from Yale University and then go on to medical school. To be named director of pediatric neurosurgery at John Hopkins Hospital at age 33, at the time the youngest physician in the country to hold such a position.

    And to gain international prominence after successfully performing surgery to separate 7-month-old twins who were born joined at the head.
    That is the stuff of which heroes are made. But Carson is anything but a hero.

    Under Trump’s tutelage, he has become a political joke, a flunky, a man who was so anxious to follow Trump’s drumbeat that he could no longer hear his own.
    It would be wrong to blame Carson’s unraveling entirely on Trump, though. Much of it is Carson’s own doing. He made the mistake of believing his own hype.

    Conservatives loved his fabled story of having pulled himself up by the bootstraps. They loved citing him as an example of what African-Americans could achieve if someone just ripped the rug of government dependency out from under them.

    Carson was the confirmation Trump and others needed to prove once and for all that African-Americans who struggle in this country do so because of their own lack of drive and ineptitude.
    It relieved them of any responsibility to reach back to help those left behind.

    That’s why Trump needed Carson for this particular job. He was supposed to spread this flawed philosophy throughout impoverished America.
    It took a year for Carson to realize that it would not be that easy. It took him that long to realize that “there are more complexities here than in brain surgery,” as he recently told The New York Times.

    Perhaps Carson also will find that everything he thought he knew about Trump was a lie. Perhaps he will understand that Trump never intended to make HUD a viable tool for improving the lives of the underserved.

    Perhaps Carson will know that he was just a pawn. Perhaps he will see that he would have been a great man had he just said no.

    dglanton@chicagotribune.com
    Twitter @dahleeng

    1. Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

      make HUD a viable tool for improving the lives of the underserved.

      Any day now. No, seriously! Just some more cash, and the correct-thinking types to run it, and it’ll be a smash!

    2. Raston Bot

      Is progsplain when you incoherently wander through a mess of words on a topic you know nothing about?

      1. Raston Bot

        Amend: there’s an emotive component along with an urge to control

    3. Not an Economist

      I fell fairly confident in saying the article’s author has a different idea of what HUD needs to do than Mr. Carson.

  62. westernsloper

    Early morning before work link: I think the original story about this guy was mentioned here.

    http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2018/03/man_arrested_after_criticizing.html

    1. leonadasiv

      https://youtu.be/5r8IwbJEwN0

      Y’all need a new sheriff.