To start, in the beginning there was a formless void. Then the Dacians created the world, and after it, wine. Moving in the realm of less fictional, but maybe somewhat so, based on serious archaeological evidence, we can estimate at least 4000 years of wine making round these parts. Getting to the 60s – BC that is – we have Dacian king Burebista – the first to unify the tribes in what is now Romania and parts of Ukraine and Hungary into something resembling a kingdom, or kingdom like tribal alliance. Wanting a better, stronger kingdom, military and economic, he ordered the burning of the vineyards, because the people drank too much wine. So wine around these parts goes back thousands of years. And drunkenness as well.
Romania does have a history of wine and does have several famous wine regions, suitable from a geographical and climate point of view. Wine from areas like Cotnari, Odobesti, Drăgășani, Dealu Mare had its moments of being considered among the good European wines and are mentioned by foreign sources since the 1500s.
The present situation is… complicated, with good and bad. Much of the bad, as I said in my previous post, was due to communism – bad, cheap mass produced wine to export for low prices. Usually semi-sweet with added flavor. The vines and facilities were not maintained, a lot of knowledge was lost. The 90s were a bit of a dark age, as government agricultural cooperatives were dismantled, some vines being given to former owners or their heirs, others to dysfunctional government enterprises.
New owners did not maintain vineyards any better, and most of the wine was mass produced and of very dubious quality. At least in my view. Many Romanians like to claim they enjoy “natural clean country wine”, not that commercial stuff. Natural and clean meaning not polluted with the things that stabilize and clear the wine of impurities, thus making it drinkable. The resulting liquid is sometime – rarely – quite decent if not great, but more often brown and murky, reminding one of a muddy river. I feel the home made wines in Italy or Portugal are of significant better quality because people actually bother to have some skill.
But some of the… roots is the proper word… of the problem predate communism. Even before, quality wine was but a fraction of the total wine production. Most of it was made, then and now, for personal consumption on very small lots – basically each peasant’s garden. A lot of trade in the 1800s in Romania was still barter and did not involve money, which rural populations did not always have, so there was no developed market in wine, like in, say, France.
Story time: as I said in my very first post on Glibertarians, my great-grandparents were from the Pitești region, grew plum trees for țuica and owned a pub in Pitești. Back in those days, the pubs sold mainly țuica and wine, so they made extra țuica, loaded up some wagons and traveled over several days to a wine producing region and traded for wine.
Transport was bad in Romania back then, mostly by wagon and dirt road, so it made sense that most of the people made wine themselves, it was hard to buy from a distance. So each town or village had some vines surrounding it. The quality of the wine varied greatly. Some people respected the craft and themselves and made quite decent, if rustic, wine. Clear, somewhat stabilized micro-biologically – the barrels were sort of fumigated with sulfur providing the sulfites, wine was sometimes filtered using egg whites – something still done in modern times, although now artificial gelatin is favored. Others, not so much. It was just plain bad, or mixed with water, made with added sugar or with certain additives to make it seem better.
Now a little break for fun with etymology! Șmecher is a quite common Romanian word –which mean crafty, cunning, shrewd and difficult to trick. An assumption is that the etymology is from the German word like “schmeck” or schmecken, which means to taste. The legend goes that German merchants came to the Drăgășani region of Romania to buy wine. The locals gave them a bit of the good stuff, and then a bit more, and the merchant got a bit drunk, and then they sold him some bad wine as well, but for the price of good. Now, say what you will of German merchants, they were not stupid. Fool me once, as the saying goes. So the next time they brought tasters which did not get drunk and made sure to get the good stuff. These schmeckers or tasters were people who were hard to trick, who did not buy bad wine for the price of good. Hence the Romanian word.
Wine is the nectar of the vines, if we want to be pseudo poetical about it. And why would we not want to be? But wait; there are plenty of crawling plants, so which ones? Vitis vinifera is responsible for all that which most humans with a discerning palate consider good wine. So plant that shit and drink up! Well, that is what people did. A lot. So up to this point, all is well, everyone was all happy and drunk – as happy as semi-starving peasants can be that is – until you bloody Americans had to screw things up, with you interventionist policies and such. In the year 1884, enter phylloxera stage right. And things got considerably worse.
What is phylloxera ? It’s an insect, a bug, a parasite, vermin. You mean like socialists? Yes, precisely like socialists. Phylloxera is a pale yellow insect native to North America, which, instead of doing productive work, sucks the sap from good, honest grapevine roots. Americans have evolved some natural defenses against parasites such as these, which Europeans did not. But Americans lack the sophistication needed to make a good wine. And speaking of Americans, as a side note, just to avoid all sorts of silly comments, a hectare is 2.5 acres.
In 1884, Romania, not yet including Transylvania, had at least 200.000 hectares of grapevines – mostly local versions of vitis vinifera. Most villages and towns had their own vines, due to the difficulty of transporting things on dirt roads. Then the disease devastated the vines, and by 1905, 90 thousand hectares were left.
By the time the bug was in full swing round these parts, Western Europe, which was hit first, had found the solution. After many trials and errors with pesticide, insecticides, fumigating vineyards and such, the new vines were planted grafted on American root stock – vines that did not give good wine but resisted phylloxera. Romanians, red blooded and proud as the mighty oak that grows in the forests, said, naturally, we ain’t gonna let a bunch of foreigners tell us what to do. So instead, they started experimenting with pesticides, insecticide and fumigating vineyards. This failed miserably and in the end they turned to, you guessed it, planting vines grafted on American root stock.
Being a poor country, money was tight. As such, by 1910 Only 70 thousand hectares were left, out of which 20 thousand hectares had been replanted, and the others managed to hang on. The majority of the country, used to growing and making their own wine, and not being able to afford the new solution, settled on a not great but inebriation enabling intermediary solution. Direct producing hybrid vines. Hybrids of European and American vines, which were resistant to phylloxera and created a drinkable, if bad wine, were planted. They grew, they were maybe more productive than the “noble vines,” as they came to be called, and made a drink that got you buzzed. Good enough.
By 1935, after gaining Transylvania with a lot of vineyards, Romania had some 160 thousand hectares of European vines and 160 thousand of hybrids. By the end of communism in 1990, there were 160 thousand hectares of European vines and just 60 thousand of hybrids – results of collectivization and elimination of some of the hybrid vines. Sadly, things did not get better immediately, as many people who land from the old state cooperatives sometimes took out noble vines and replaced them with easier to maintain hybrids. So in 1997, the numbers were 80 thousand good vines versus 120 thousand hybrids. Right now, officially at least, it is illegal in the European Union to plant hybrid vines for wine making. This was, I assume, a standard protectionist method for established agriculture, although the pretext was the poor quality of the wine and the higher possibility of methanol in wine from hybrid vines.
Now, more than 100 years later, according to the national statistics institute, there are 180 thousand hectares of vines in Romania, out of which about half, 90, are grafted vitis vinifera. So 150 years after phylloxera, the country has half the vines capable of producing good wine. And the current territory also includes Transylvania. Sadly, many people who make wine for their own consumption still plant hybrids which create a good natural country wine. Because swill does not have the same ring to it.
Those guys look at least as legit as my regular liquor store’s employees.
I’ll take a red and a white.
But not the blue, commie? These colors don’t run.
Ok. Just a little blue. Maybe, like, a thin, blue line?
Careful, a Minnesotan woman ended up dead that way.
2 bucks a litre special price
Sold!
Saturday night was whiskey cocktail night, so this Saturday night shall be dubious wine night!
If it is anything like roadside peaches, then that wine is better than anything you can find in a store.
it is not though
Saturday is the whiskey festival. I might not survive. Tell the Glibs if I don’t make it, I REGRET NOTHING!
Florida man died as he lived; mostly naked, covered in an unknown sticky substance, drunk, and speaking in what is assumed to tongues.
Oh lord. A whiskey FESTIVAL?! If only I was a Florida Woman.
I’m pretty excited.
https://www.whiskeynbizz.com/orlando-whiskey-festival
As long as you know how to love, you know you’ll stay alive.
I don’t get the attraction to the beverage, but the process of production holds some fascination for me. I did not know about the blight upon European rootstock.
2.47, but who’s counting.
Our hectare are just bigger than yours
Isn’t the whole point of the “Metric” system to be a standard across the world?
I’ll chalk it up to no one actually knowing how long any metric unit is.
The point is the 1 hectare is 10000 square meters. The problem here is that the acre is not 4000 square meters as it should be. That way a hectare would be 2.5 acrea. Truth be told an acre should be 5000 square meters.
“My arbitrary units can beat up your arbitrary units.”
An acre was the amount of land an ox team can plow in a day. It was a very good measure for middle ages farmers because you had a tie between land and labor that allowed for lots to be allocated efficiently.
A hectare is based off some measurement invented by a Frenchman interest in burning down the established order. So of course it’s not easily applicable to labor. the French don’t work.
Ouch!
1 chain (4 rods) by 1 furlong.
“An acre was the amount of land an ox team can plow in a day”
Who’s oxen? Is there a standard ox they used to come up with this?
And what type of plow? How good is the plow operator?
Lach, the Migration Era Standard Template Ox and Saxon Churl were very uniform organisms.
And how rocky is the soil?
Psst, Hyperbole, Medieval measuring technology was not all that precise. They looked at how much got done in a day and went “that’s an acre”. It averaged out to 1/640 of a square mile in the long term.
The history of fermentation makes me wonder how much of our survival we have to thank Florida Man like ancestors for.
“Someone crushed the grapes, and now it’s got bubbles in it. What should we do with it?”
“Someone left the grain out in the rain, and it started to sprout. I roasted it, what do we do with it?”
“That grain I roasted, it got left out in the rain, and was sitting next to a fire. Now it’s got bubbles in it to. What should we do with it?”
“That bubbling grape juice that made everyone act funny, it’s got a big fuzzy thing in the bottom now and it doesn’t taste as good. Should we stick other vegetables in it?”
On the process side, I find the ingenuity that created the decoction mash fascinating.
Actual conversation, translated from middle-German:
German1: You know what would be fun?
German2: What?
German1: We should make this process 3 times as long and much more labor intensive.
German2: You are right, that does sound like fun!
German1: You want to know the best part?
German2: Sure.
German1: With better quality malt, this won’t be necessary, but robc will taste a marginal difference and continue to do it.
German2: What a fool!
Secuimea belongs to the Secui, not you filthy Dacian pretenders.
They can have it as far as I care as long as they dont want money from the rest of us
Let them leech off of Hungary. Also, while phylloxera is native to North America, it was first brought to Europe by British botanists that weren’t very picky about the specimins they took, so blame the limeys.
::narrows gaze::
I assume the lazy botanist story is a cover, and it was a deliberate attempt by the British to hit the French where they would hurt the most.
Maybe, but I always thought the best way for the British to punish the French was to:
1. Carpet bomb the whole country with soap
2. Invade
3. Force the French to use the soap
You mean Siebenbürgen belongs to the Austrians.
Megoszthatjuk.
Saxons did not subscribe to “sharing is caring”.
Indeed. Which says something about the Magyar that they were able to force them to share an empire.
My grandpa planted grape vines. After he died no one took care of them. As the trees around the vines grew taller the vines began to climb the trees, then thanks to squirrels and birds they spread to tops of other trees. Vines everywhere, except on the fence.
Vines vines everywhere and not a drop to drink
…and all the barrels did shrink.
When I was little, my grandpa grew grapes in his backyard. They were pretty to look at, but they were the most sour, vilest things to eat. At some point he ripped them out.
We had a muscadine grapevine as a child. I’m not a fan.
They just never got sweet. Always sour, no matter how long they had been on the vine. This was on Long Island, so I don’t think they were muscadines, but they sucked.
My grandfather had a contract with U of A to grow experimental strains of grapes for them. He had 30 acres of grapes on his farm. I spent many a summer harvesting grapes.
Fun fact –
Grapes are harvested in August. In arkansas, August is a miserable time of year to be outside doing anything. It’s especially miserable when you are Lee’s than 5 feet tall and are in between rows of grapes that are taller than you are.
Grandpa’s contract ended when I was 16. My older brother and I spent a whole week pulling up every vine on the property. It was enjoyable work.
Is there any time is Arkansas that isn’t miserable? :-p
As usual, Pie, I enjoyed your article. I love wine, almost exclusively red wines.
Nobody answered my question last time about what kind of grapes go into Franzia.
I attribute it to coastal elitism turning up their noses at cheap box wine.
Round ones.
More oval ones, they give higher juice yield. Seriously.
Bankrupt Napa vineyard grapes, cut with whatever is cheapest, apparently.
Fred Franzia really doesn’t care where the grapes come from:
I use that term for something else entirely, but this still made me laugh out loud.
*shrug*
I’ll drink Franzia red wines. I budget way more of my money to good steaks, cheeses, and bourbons than I do wine. I’m perfectly content with a $10 bottle or a $20 box of wine.
Anything they can find. Lots of high-yield varieties like Colombard, Carignane, Chardonnay.
I’d bet they put Cabs into Cabernet Sauvignon. I really didn’t like the Dark Red Blend though. Always made me wonder how much lead acetate there was in there.
Just a touch of antifreeze for flavor.
I used to put kerosene in my corn liquor. Just a mite for flavor.
They already tried it in Austria.
Natural country wine. This description makes sense to me.
*Looks in back room at ten gallons of muscadine wine I made last fall*
I dont drink it or sell it. That is my years supply of cooking wine. Spaghetti sauce, chili, BBQ sauce, steak sauce, etc.
Pie, the muscadine is not a grape. It is kind of like the muscat but not quite. It is muskier. I imagine that is the rootstock y’all are using. Around here you dont need to plant them, you just stop mowing and get out of the way. I have two hybrid varieties, one black, one golden and half of a dozen wild ones that I dug up in the woods and moved to my yard. No grapes. Grapes dont do well here.
Scuppernongs are the same as muscadines, right? We used to have them in our backyard in Florida, and they were reasonably tasty when you let them get ripe enough.
Yes, they are the same. Quality varies greatly depending on the individual vine, soil quality, water available etc. There are probably a hundred names for them. Every Indian tribe had a different name I am sure. Europeans just borrowed the Injun names so they have different names in different places. The ones we have here if given ample water are as good as any grape.
The internet says that yes, scuppernongs (which is my new favorite word) are a variety of muscadine.
It’s definitely fun to say. When we first moved into our house in Florida the old lady who lived next door told us to enjoy the scuppernongs and I had NO idea what the hell she was talking about.
Until recently the varieties were regional. These days we have a zillion varieties that have been bred and scattered around. I have two. They produce less musky fruit and produce much more fruit. I like the wild local variety the best but it is difficult to find vines that produce prodigiously. What I usually do is find a heavy producing vine, lay a branch in a pot and put a brick on it. After a year when it has grown roots in the pot I cut it off from the main vine and move the rooted branch to my yard. I have not had 100% success with this, but enough to make it worth while.
Country wine can be ok if made with care. In romania most dont take time to learn to properly clean equipment. Also they dont care for the vines and often pick early otherwise someone else may beat you to it
Does cooking with muscadine kill that odd after taste?
Yes, a bit, but why would you want to?
I find that musky flavor unpleasant. There is a winery near Orlando that makes wines using the muscadine, but no matter how good the initial taste, that odd flavor seems to linger at the end.
It reminds me of childhood summers. Freedom and swimming in the creek. Rope swings and camp-outs.
Even before, quality wine was but a fraction of the total wine production.
Sturgeon’s Rule applies to wine.
The phylloxera thing is interesting. There are still a few places where vinifera are planted on own-rootstocks rather than grafted. Of course, the producers there claim a quality advantage…
I kbow new zeeland was spared. Also this is why i suspect one might find prephylloxera grapes in isolated vilages in the hills
There’s a few in California, a few in Washington, lots in South America.
The quality level of the topical posts here continues to be top shelf.
Nice work, Mr Pie. I know a sommelier in NYC and I’ll pass this along to him, cuz why not?
I will answer your email later today!
Thanks. A couple more to come so you can wait a bit 😀
Thanks, Pie. Great article. Very informative and I enjoy your writing style.
A bit off topic…
Looking at the morning thread and clicking through some of the links I find this gem –
Nick Gillespie
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C’mon, @BruceMajors4DC: It’s *Dr.*–and the moustache is now history, a failed experiment (much like America).
I wish one of these douchebags would explain in detail exactly how America is a failed experiment and which other country is better.
Not being an absolute, total, unqualified success =/= a “failed experiment”
It’s failed because the hoarders, wreckers, and kulaks won’t do what their betters want them to.
Well, if the American experiment was to see if you could create a self limiting government, I’d have to say it failed.
It is difficult to say. In a historical context I would say it is improving in some ways, devolving in others. Contemporary Americans are probably the freest and wealthiest people that have ever lived.
I hope it stays that way, but with mandatory government school pushing Marxism, I’m not optimistic.
It just boggles my mind that anyone would find socialism appealing.
It appeals to people who deep down inside, know they are inferior to their fellow man.
^^^SO. MUCH. THIS.
The True Believer never stops being relevant. The central thesis is that people who want to be part of a mass movement and are uncomfortable with individualism are compensating for a deep-seated sense of worthlessness and are bent on self-annihilation.
I know a great many parents who recognize this and deprogram as appropriate. There are a lot of quiet wreckers and kulaks out there.
Yeah, there is a lot of bullshit out there, but I’m still bullish on liberty.
I’m pessimistic lately because after all the government failures that lead to the Parkland shooting, the response seems to be “government harder.”
I vacillate between optimism and pessimism. Pessimism for largely the same reason you say here, optimism because I can (possibly) convince myself that the “response” is driven by a loud minority in the media and Dem client groups. Who knows which is true?
One of the smartest things The Jacket ever said was that being a libertarian usually means being very pessimistic about the short term but very optimistic about the long term. Yes, we have lots of government cocking up a lot of things, but there has been a nice progression towards freedom over the last hundred years on a global scale.
Contemporary Americans are probably the freest and wealthiest people that have ever lived.
The wealthiest? Certainly.
The freest? Defined as “least constrained by government” (which is my definition), not even close. Americans of a generation ago were freer than Americans today. I would say America has been getting steadily less free since, say, the mid-30s.
You may be right. Being less constrained by government doesnt make one free. Before there were many social bonds that kept people from being free. Rebels were often dealt with harshly. Those that broke with social convention often had the hammer of government brought down on them.
It is really hard for us to say since we can only personally experience one lifetime. I will certainly concede that there is a lot of room for improvement today.
Good question. Maybe it’s time they explain *why* it’s a” failed experiment”.
Good article Pie. Even though you made my blood pressure drop this morning linking to that Tweet.
“a failed experiment (much like America).”
It is a failed experiment. Much like that time Richie Cunningham was held hostage by a rival school so he couldn’t play in the big basketball game was a failed experiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A-DCWlLfOQ
Fonzie is one massive macro-aggression.
That’s *Dr* Fonzie to you
#hertoo?
I’m not drinkin’ what’s in those bottles. And that’s final.
I’d try it. Of course I did end up drinking a ceremonial bowl full of Cava, so I’m not really sure what that says.
Enjoying the article even if I’m not a wine drinker! Usually. I did have four glasses on the plane last night/this morning whenever it was.
I don’t even drink wine, but these are fascinating. I can’t wait to sneer at my wine snob friends when their ignorance of Romanian wines is revealed!
I wish one of these douchebags would explain in detail exactly how America is a failed experiment
Women’s suffrage.
Standing military, government school, minimum wage, all prohibition, NSA, FBI, BATFE, EPA, CDC, NPR, NEA, NRC, …
Having difficulty living up to very good ideals is not the same as failure. It is a work in progress. In almost every other country in the world the lot of us would be tossed into jail for saying the things we say here. We wouldn’t be able to work whatever job we liked or innovate or marry whom we please. In many countries those of us who find themselves attracted to their own gender would be murdered or outcast. In most countries your chances of improving your economic lot is near zero. This country has produced more wealth in the 20th century than the rest of the world combined in all of history. We produced almost everything that makes the modern world what it is.
America is the greatest success the world has ever seen. That doesnt mean it is a failure, that it cant be improved, but it is far from a failure.
Precisely the reason that the preamble starts off with “in order to form a more perfect union”.
Well said.
Don’t get me wrong, there is no where else in the world I’d rather live, I’m just disappointed in how far we’ve fallen from the ideal.
Fallen? We are actually getting better, but it is a hard climb. Beating that pesky human nature is no small thing. We got rid of slavery. Women have equal rights. Everyone in theory is equal in the sight of the law. Those aren’t baby steps.
Keep your chin up. There is a lot of good to offset the bad.
Your right. It’s easy to get discouraged.
We are actually getting better, but it is a hard climb.
In the very long run, I would tend to agree. In shorter time frames, I think we are losing some ground (over, say, the last couple of generations) in terms of freedom from government control and the cohesion and efficacy of civil society.
My intuition is the other way around: uneducated, unprincipled folk are on the rise.
Even today our liberty is spotty, a temporary uptick based on reactionaries in flyover country voting for gun culture. And these truck drivers are mostly authoritarian….just so long as it’s their guy and their rules; they believe rights are conferred by majorities.
Almost no one believes in small government or minding your own business…especially Millennial or immigrants.
We will be a laughing stock soon: bones on the ashheap of history that socialists and authoritarians will point and laugh at.
I don’t share your defeatist opinion. We are in a transitional period, but it looks to me like the 20th century derp wave has struck its high water mark and the sea wall it eroded is starting to get repaired.
Not when it comes to standing armies, we arent.
A lot smaller today, than back when I enlisted….expense…still eatin’ more than it should, by far.
It just boggles my mind that anyone would find socialism appealing.
They put the frilly dress of “fairness” on it. Who wouldn’t want the world to be fair?
Especially at 16 years of age; this is why we need to give high school sophomores the vote.
Humans evolved in a pre-industrial economy. In a pre-industrial economy one cannot produce enough with the labor of their own hands to thrive or become wealthy. The only way to become wealthy is to take from others or yoke your fellow man. Looting and slavery. I suspect this is why so many people like socialism; it is the nature of the majority.
Well I did make a joke about socialists in the post not that anyone noticed.
I was distracted with my fascination about the bugs. I did not know this before and I have never seen them despite having dug up a great many grape vines.
*Completely unrelated – on one of our timber tracts the Brushy bayou (pronounced bursley – go figure) runs through it across three different 40 acre pieces. In one particular bend there is a muscadine vine that grows into three different trees that are over 100 feet tall and the vine is almost 16 inches in diameter. In late summer the possum and raccoon shit coming down is like rain. I swear that vine feeds half of the critters up there.
Counterintuitively, those jug wines are more likely to have added sulfites than artisanal wines.
Two fun facts:
1. White wines nearly always have higher levels of sulfites than red wines. The red wine headaches that some people have come from histamines, and can be prevented (logically enough) by taking an antihistamine before drinking.
2. The number of people with actual sulfite sensitivity is something like 1 in 1000. Sulfites are the gluten of the wine world. “Can you eat raisins? OK, you don’t have a sulfite sensitivity.”
Whoa! Whoa! Applying logic to food allergies? Crazy talk.
biodynamic wines amuse me though. Because you add a bit of mysticism to the nonsense.
You just had to bring up gluten.
I have gotten to the point where, when someone says they are allergic to gluten I just glibly say “No, you aren’t.” and then just ignore them.
I was in the grocery store today, and there was a little tag near the cans of one of the brands of tuna fish identifying them as gluten-free.
do you recommend white or red wine with percocet?
Percocet? You should be chewing fentanyl patches with a nice Chianti.
Disclaimer: don’t do this
Red with Seconal.
Quaaludes or GTFO.
Look at Bill Cosby over here.
The research is clear.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7195761
I’m not surprised that quaaludes research includes mulattos.
rhesus monkeys (Macaca mulatta)
I have a bumper sticker that says that. It cuts right to the chase
Derp mine
As Oliver wrapped up, he left viewers with one final thought: “The answer to the question ‘What the fuck is NRATV?’ is it’s just a vessel to sell America guns. That’s pretty much it. Does it work? It’s honestly hard to say; they won’t reveal their ratings, so it’s plausible that no one is watching this . . . NRATV might actually be the dumbest, most transparent thing that it does. Think about it this way: if the N.R.A. is a ferocious bear charging at you, NRATV is that bear’s ridiculous hat. Is it eye-catching? Sure it is. Is it perversely entertaining? Absolutely. Is it the main thing you should be worried about? Probably not. Because the real truth here is, hat or no hat, it is imperative that everyone keep their eyes on that fucking bear.”
Apparently, there are people out there in television land who think John Oliver is witty and insightful.
Jesse’s haberdasher hardest hit.
I still remember Oliver’s take on Puerto Rico’s collapsing finances. His whole diatribe was full of nonsense and untruths.
My favorite part was when he said that Puerto Rico, unlike American states, is explicitly forbidden from declaring bankruptcy. It showed just how ignorant about the topic he really is
Stop abusing yourself. Why watch leftist TV?
It’s funny and that video was passed around to highlight just how ignorant John Oliver’s analysis really is
“there are people[…]who think John Oliver is witty and insightful”
But, but, he’s got an English accent!
My wife likes to watch SNL clips. She showed me one that was a spoof of casting for movies. I didn’t recognize %80 of the “celebrities” they were mocking. My media detox is going swimmingly.
Make no mistake, the NRA is millions of Americans standing up (mostly) for the second amendment. When these people disparage the NRA or call them criminal or call for their death, they are talking about millions of ordinary Americans. They try to make it sound like they are only talking about a few powerful shadowy figures but that isnt it at all. If you belong to the NRA or even just support the second amendment they hate you and want you imprisoned or dead. They are pinkos being pinkos. There is a reason they are the ones that dig the mass graves.
I presume someone pushed an old-timey film projector across the stage behind him on a cart as he said this, right?
And here I thought the people painting private gun ownership as intolerably dangerous were the ones who saw threats around every corner and one solution.
“one solution”
Is it a Final Solution?
Most Americans have never even heard of Nutella, much less eaten it.
But his reference makes the people who watch his show feel worldly and informed.
Nutella is a lot like soccer in America- it was better when only immigrants knew about it
The first time our cousins from Germany visited (1985), the brought a jar of Nutella over. Good stuff.
They also brought some liqueur-filled chocolates and gave me one. It wasn’t the alcohol that bothered me; it was not knowing I was going to get sprayed in the face when I bit into it. 🙂
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/970722908334116864
The most libertarian-y member of the Senate is demanding that the NRA prove that it’s not a puppet of Russia. When two stupid narratives collide you can also count on Wyden to take the stupid and run with it.
Fonzie hardest hit
That hurts my brain. Not very encouraging to see how many in the replies eat that horseshit up.
Looks like progs have managed to combine their two favorite insane obsessions, the NRA and Russia.
I fail to understand why Lefties are so unhinged over the NRA; they are not even in the top 10 biggest political contributors (which happen to be, shockingly, all Dem organizations). I guess they just need a target of opportunity for their 2 minutes of hate. It’s not even comparable to SoCons’ hating PP since PP actually performs abortions using tax money, whereas the NRA receives no tax money (to my knowledge), doesn’t sell guns and certainly doesn’t “promote mass shootings” as these lunatics claim.
It must be profoundly uncomfortable to be that crazy and hateful.
You got it all wrong. Threatening taxpayer support for Planned Parenthood is totally not libertarian or something, according to TOS.
The NRA is tax-exempt and therefore STEALS MONEY FROM US.
IIRC, they’re not even in the top 100.
Here’s the data:
https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cmte=National+Rifle+Assn&cycle=2016
And by contrast:
https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cmte=C00495861&cycle=2016
and:
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000077&cycle=2016
NRA isn’t the reason. NRA is just the means. They’re doing it to marginalize and sideline opposition to their gun control schemes.
Having shown that they can do it, they’ll target more opponents.
“Looks like progs have managed to combine their two favorite insane obsessions, the NRA and Russia.”
The Russians are coming!! Don’t shoot back!
Fonzie: Richie Cunninham is the most libertarian member of the Senate. Right now he is filibustering the renewal of legislation to allow Al to eavesdrop on customers at the diner.
Joanie Cunninham: Then why didn’t he join Potsi in filibustering this legislation when Al’s Diner was under different management?
On a ‘Happy Days’ binge?
Potsie = Obama.
Potsi= Rand Paul
He’s Black Potsie!
Fact of the matter is that Richie Cunninham is a hot piece of garbage. Even Ralph Malph is more libertarian than Richie
I thought Rand Paul was doing something crazy.
I’m using Fonzie’s ranking system
Richie is always going to beat out Potsi
Number 1 in the UK.
https://youtu.be/rNkgDJpcuwU
I could have gone all day without seeing that.
I..um…did I accidentally take some acid?
*thousand yard stare with periodic eye twitching*
I was out of that shithole before Christmas ’93.
Disclaimer: don’t do this
Spoilsport.
OT: I’ve been anticipating this news for some time – “Sir” Bradley Wiggins/Team Sky doping.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/43293645
They are all dopers.
Only the ones who want a shot at winning.
There is a non-zero chance that the “Q” in this video is me. I’ll leave it up to you to decide what the probability is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8DOsbwwnCo
I don’t find this kind of voice/sound ASMR relaxing at all. It is kind of annoying. I have better chance of getting the relaxing thing by watching one of those videos of a craftsman doing something like making a violin or a watch.
Ditto.
When I have trouble falling asleep I will often design and build something in my mind. The single mindedness of crafting something is very relaxing to me.
Always makes me wonder if there’s a mailing list or something for these ASMR personalities where they hang out, speculating on how many of their viewers use the videos as porn.
It is an unusual effect; there is some fMRI research (too lazy to find it) showing that the “ASMR effect” is distinct from sexual arousal, but has some overlap. I guess that accounts for the fact that the vast majority of ASMRtists are young, attractive females.
However, I’m definitely one of those that is susceptible and I will listen without the visual because the hotness of the girl is usually distracting from the relaxation.
would though
As a random note, I originally wrote rootstock in one word but the spellcheck was complaining and I wrote it as two words in the post, but I see you lot in the comments write it as one word. hmmmm
It’s one word. Or, if you prefer, oneword.
Do not rely on us to grammar proper.
Spellcheckers are notoriously bad at ‘insider cant’ like this.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/enemies-of-the-people/
I give it about twenty years before we’re all forced into gulags.
Not me. I’ll be 70. It will have been a good run.
Your loss. The reeducation camps are going to lit
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=237&type=card
Twenty years? Aren’t you the optimist.
They are working themselves into a frenzy right now, well on their way. My optimism comes from my belief that they may try but they will fail.
The good news is that young SLWs are pretty my inept at every practical skill. So I don’t expect them to accomplish anything by themselves. It’s the activist agencies in the federal government that are actually dangerous.
The SJWs, having no practicable skills and an unquenchable thirst for authority, gravitate towards those jobs that require none of the former and reward the latter, politics and civil service.
I guess our only hope is that Trump is filling the judiciary with young, conservative judges.
“First, over the past two years conservatives have self-marginalized. In supporting Donald Trump they have tied themselves to a man whose racial prejudices, sexual behavior and personal morality put him beyond the pale of decent society.”
OK, let’s try this.
“First, over the past two years Democrats have self-marginalized. In supporting Hillary Clinton they have tied themselves to a woman whose corruption, intolerance and criminality put her beyond the pale of decent society.”
See how that works?
David Brooks is just pissed that people on the right don’t take him seriously.
Nice, but I’m having a deja vu.
Chin up. Remember – we’ve got the guns. All they got is a bunch of crazies with bike locks.
It’s true. They are incompetent. They have a distorted view of things because the people shooting and blowing up stuff are crazy and bumblefuck everything up. The people who are competent of course dont go around doing that stuff. I often look at that stuff and want to say why didn’t they do such and such? That’s not a bomb, that’s a firecracker. That isnt the kind of gun you use…
And then I shut the fuck up. I dont want to give them any clues. I have said this before and gotten a lot of “Yeah, I dont say anything either. I dont want to give them any ideas.”
Like the Nazis, Bolsheviks, Maoists, and Bolivars before them, they don’t need to be competent. They just need 0.5% of them to be bloodthirsty psychos.
How will being forced into gulags differ from our current voluntary gulags?
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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43295134
Hey, look at that, something the Russians probably actually did.
Ah, the old polonium umbrella jab.
Well, more like polonium teabags for the Russians.
The umbrella job was the Bulgarians, using ricin.
Just sayin’ made this for you, meme away!
Nice.
More U.K. #1’s
https://youtu.be/DOlG92rb2Zg
Reminds me of this guy. He has a very similar accent to the one I have (had?) which is no surprise, ‘cos he grew up 5 years older than me, 4 streets away.
So, next time you’re trying to imagine me talking, this is pretty accurate.
I’m forever going to associate plaid pants and hippie sunglasses with you as well.
Funny thing is that while I didn’t hate punk rock, I always thought The Damned were a bunch of poseurs. The teachers at the school he and I went to thought he was a twat too.
The first thing I noticed visiting your fair homeland was that 4 streets away was as good as being another country.
The first thing I noticed were all the exotic cars with messed up rims on the right side of the car from scraping them against the curbs. And they were uniformly filthy from being parked outside all the time.
Barbarians.
Filthy like their teeth (God bless you fluoride in our water!)
“The difference between America and England is that Americans think 100 years is a long time, while the English think 100 miles is a long way.” –Earle Hitchner
Well, it’s changing now, but there used to be language experts that could nail an accent down to within a few miles. Colonel Pickering from My Fair Lady wasn’t much of a caricature.
Better than my accent.
You should hear mine. Of course I can turn it on and off at will.
When we all get to those gulag camps, I say we don’t let Georgists sit at our table when we’re all eating gruel. That’ll teach them. Where’s your single tax now?
Charge ’em for the chair and the gruel is free?
I think the chair would be a public resource and gruel distribution can be privatized or something
Thunder Snow
God I love Iowa
OT: And more news on English Explodiness:
Leicester Explosion.
Ok. I can not find any of the Romanian wines recommended in the lady article. Maybe my Google skills suck? But if any one had a good US source for Romanian wine, please let me know.
Lady article? Meant last article. Fucking auto correct.