One of my family members is an online instructor that teaches classes to UN refugee camps around the world. I respect this person very highly, so when he sends me an email with the title “What Kind of Legacy are We Leaving You?” I feel compelled to engage in the discussion. His students were to read an excerpt from Viktor Frankl’s book “Man’s Search for Meaning”, Plato’s “Euthyphro”, and to describe their own search for meaning. The email he sent to me consisted of one student’s response. The student is not a native English speaker and relayed his experiences outrunning war in Africa and the Middle East. I am not going to write the entire message here but focus on a question the student asked in response: “Let me ask a question, does it mean that from all the way back to thousands of years ago education has done nothing to stop wars?”
This is a sentiment that I started to wonder a little while ago. I enjoy reading about world history and economics and a repeated theme is the idea that we have come so far, we are so educated, that surely this time we’ll get it right if we just have the right people in charge. This time our society will be perfect, a Utopia. It’s a common theme in dystopian novels but frequently reflected in the speeches of many people who consider themselves to be revolutionaries.
And yet, within a few short years of uttering this sentiment, those societies tend to collapse, almost always violently.
Surely the next time we will be more educated. We will get it right. We just didn’t have the right people in charge or some “other” ruined the dream.
It almost implies that education bestows a moral high ground. If we were more educated, we wouldn’t have so many wars, people wouldn’t starve, and we could get the best and brightest to solve our problems. In many ways our increasing knowledge has alleviated much of human suffering to those who are the beneficiaries of it. Crop yields have increased several times over because of what people have learned and the technology that came with it. In stark contrast, education also creates the most terrible weapons of war. Atomic bombs can wipe out the same population that those increased crop yields can support. It has struck me as an interesting dichotomy.
If education implies morality, then being uneducated must mean that you are little more than a barbarian, and yet we know that that isn’t true, either. Many of us have grown up with or have met many people in our lives who would be considered uneducated but are the most wonderful people to be around. In stark contrast stands the individuals who would lord their education levels over others in search of that distant Utopia. This, of course, is not always true and is not meant to be a generalization of either educated or uneducated individuals.
The implication isn’t that we are pursuing the wrong means for Utopia. The implication is that we can’t escape our base instincts except by conscious choice, and even then, we cannot force others to accept it without conflict. His question neither condemns nor condones education. To me, it succinctly illustrates human nature. Education is another tool mankind has created. It cannot bring us any closer to the Utopia we so desperately desire, but if we recognize that we cannot truly escape our instincts, we can use education to help each other in greater and more fantastic ways, as human beings have always done.
I grew up the child of two university professors, in a college town surrounded by family farms. The best professors were the ones who encouraged students to find their own path, and truths and, indeed, saw education as a tool for enriching one’s life and the lives of those around one. I still feel that is true.
Agreed.
The best teacher I ever had was my Electronics/Automation teacher at trade school. Merciless on grading and his expectations, yet generous with his time and effort at teaching. More than half of his students failed, but they only failed for lack of effort. He was a very good instructor and would do everything he could to teach you the material if you were willing. A lot of my classmates couldn’t stand him. I thought he was great.
It’s Human Nature we can’t get around, other wise Education Would be the answer IMO
I pretty much missed the entire day, so if I may go OT:
I’m doing a Bean Soup in the Crock pot for dinner,
I Dare not call it Chili
2 lb. stew meat
1 Can RoTel tomatoes and diced chilis
1 Can Tomato puree/paste
Chili spices, YMMV
1 Can Kidney Beans
1 Can Pinto Beans
1 Can Black beans
Some minced Onion to taste
1/4 cup finely chopped Scallions
Touch of Garlic Salt
Brown the meat and toss it in a Crock pot for 3.5 hours on high,
Starting the Afternoon with a set of Tropical Torpedo,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VUzHbzjmz5tIQcUq1
I’m finally done for today….
Tasty! I like to use ground bison for mine.
I look at what’s available, and don’t mind mixing it up, Today was a great deal on Pork Asada stuff so I got 2lb for 3.50$
Easy and cheap, add some Masa at the end.
“Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly in the long run…”
-Mark Twain, on the conquest of the Indian tribes
Utopia comes from the Greek for “nowhere”. Larf!
ou- not
topos- place
Huh. I learned a thing today.
I suspect that at some point, it was spelled eutopia (good/noble place, like euphemism or euthanasia). Let’s see.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/utopia
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Extended to any perfect place by 1610s. Commonly, but incorrectly, taken as from Greek eu- “good” (see eu-) an error reinforced by the introduction of dystopia (1868). On the same model, Bentham had cacotopia (1818).
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Cacotopia- shit place; we would say shit hole.
Kakistocracy = rule by the shitty?
It has a wiki page.
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A kakistocracy (English pronunciation: /kækɪsˈtɑkɹəsi/) is a system of government which is run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens.[1][2] The word was coined as early as the 17th century.[3] It was also used by English author Thomas Love Peacock in 1829, but gained significant usage in the 21st century.
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Yea, every one seems to think Utopia is a GOOD thing, It means nothing, Oblivion
related
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Many years ago, Charles De Gaulle was addressing a political rally when an enthusiast in the crowd shouted out “Mort aux cons!,” a term first used by the French military in addressing the enemy, and which means “Death to the idiots” or “Death to the dopes.” De Gaulle turned slowly to where the shout had come from and famously replied “Vaste programme, monsieur,” which means “that, sir, is a very tall order.”
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Friedrich Schiller: “Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.”
“Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain”
“Death to the idiots!”
We’re all idiots in some capacity, who do we begin with?
Whoever is not wearing an “I’m with stupid” t-shirt?
Teen Festus owned a t-shirt that said “Stupid’s with me” Had the pointing hand and everything.
There’s a difference between education and learning, and these days it seems like way too many people fall into the cargo cult logic trap of conflating the two
A lot of being successful in modern education comes down to just navigating bureaucracy. I know plenty of people who do incredibly well in school but are still dumb as rocks, mostly because they know how to kiss ass, whine when they get bad grades, and who are too stupid to feel like busy work is a waste of time
Benjamin Franklin — ‘He was so learned that he could name a horse in nine languages; so ignorant that he bought a cow to ride on.’
Success in school and work is mostly a matter of conformity and obedience. Intelligence is a distant third. YMMV.
The dirty secret is that most jobs do not require much intelligence or training. It’s mostly a matter of kissing your boss’s ass and telling him it tastes like ice cream. Likability compensates for a multitude of sins.
I did well in school and according to the tests, I am smarter than your av-uh-ridge bear. Despite this, my engineering career was short and disappointing.
There is a big difference between going to school and education. The kid on the corner selling his product is getting educated. School, to me, is a physical location
I’ll be honest, I don’t much remember the point I was getting at when I wrote this.
Education is merely a buzzword: there is no clear, quantifiable attribute that describes unambiguously when someone is or isn’t educated. Further, how someone learns, what they process, and whether they apply the principles they studied to the very situations where those should apply is fairly random.
Dave Ramsey went bankrupt even though he had a degree in finance. I don’t think that’s the University of Tennessee’s fault. What happened was that he relied on his general nature, ignored many of the very tools he had been taught, and left himself vulnerable to very predictable, preventable circumstances. Today he makes million$ preaching don’t-do-what-I-did on AM………..and he still doesn’t rely on his finance degree: he sells a spiel of over-compensating conservativism; he’s once burnt, twice shy………but is he educated? I’m not saying he’s a bad guy or that his advice isn’t suitable to many people; but his “education” had nothing to do with his original failure or his subsequent success…….Not UT’s fault.
“This is a sentiment that I started to wonder a little while ago. I enjoy reading about world history and economics and a repeated theme is the idea that we have come so far, we are so educated, that surely this time we’ll get it right if we just have the right people in charge.”
History is cyclical because many people study it without learning it.
History is cyclical because most things happen for a reason, and that reason is usually deeply rooted in human psychology. Unfortunately, most Top Men become so enamored by the genius of their ideas (perceived or real), that they think they can simply ignore human nature when laying out their wonderful plans to utopia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asabiyyah
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`Asabiyya or asabiyyah (Arabic: عصبيّة) refers to social solidarity with an emphasis on unity, group consciousness and sense of shared purpose, and social cohesion,[1] originally in a context of “tribalism” and “clanism”. It was a familiar term in the pre-Islamic era, but became popularized in Ibn Khaldun’s Muqaddimah where it is described as the fundamental bond of human society and the basic motive force of history.
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It’s basically the same thing as Frank Zappa’s Grand Funk Railroad Theory of Social Cohesion.
See also the Greek concept of Kyklos
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The Kyklos (Ancient Greek: κύκλος, IPA: [kýklos], “cycle”) is a term used by some classical Greek authors to describe what they saw as the political cycle of governments in a society. It was roughly based on the history of Greek city-states in the same period. The concept of “The Kyklos” is first elaborated in Plato’s Republic, chapters VIII and IX.
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All the philosophers believed that this cycling was harmful. The transitions would often be accompanied by violence and turmoil, and a good part of the cycle would be spent with the degenerate forms of government. Aristotle gave a number of options as to how the cycle could be halted or slowed:
Even the most minor changes to basic laws and constitutions must be opposed because over time the small changes will add up to a complete transformation.
In aristocracies and democracies the tenure of rulers must be kept very short to prevent them from becoming despots
External threats, real or imagined, preserve internal peace
The three government basic systems can be blended into one, taking the best elements of each
If any one individual gains too much power, be it political, monetary, or military he should be banished from the polis
Judges and magistrates must never accept money to make decisions
The middle class must be large
Most important to Aristotle in preserving a constitution is education: if all the citizens are aware of law, history, and the constitution they will endeavour to maintain a good government.
Polybius, by contrast, focuses on the idea of mixed government. The idea that the ideal government is one that blends elements of monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy. Aristotle mentions this notion but pays little attention to it. To Polybius it is the most important and he saw the Roman Republic as the embodiment of this mixed constitution and that this explained its stability.
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Human Nature is the reason every ISM that is tried fails, We are Smart, but emotional irrational Beasts at the same time
Schopenhauer’s porcupines come to mind:
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A number of porcupines huddled together for warmth on a cold day in winter; but, as they began to prick one another with their quills, they were obliged to disperse. However the cold drove them together again, when just the same thing happened. At last, after many turns of huddling and dispersing, they discovered that they would be best off by remaining at a little distance from one another. In the same way the need of society drives the human porcupines together, only to be mutually repelled by the many prickly and disagreeable qualities of their nature. The moderate distance which they at last discover to be the only tolerable condition of intercourse, is the code of politeness and fine manners; and those who transgress it are roughly told—in the English phrase—to keep their distance. By this arrangement the mutual need of warmth is only very moderately satisfied; but then people do not get pricked. A man who has some heat in himself prefers to remain outside, where he will neither prick other people nor get pricked himself.
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Knowledge is power, but power corrupts, and corruption is a crime, and crime doesn’t pay.
If we keep learning, we’ll go broke!
That copy of Intellectuals and Society is staring at me right about now.
Funny you mention it, I’m watching Sowell videos while I cook dinner.
So you’re cooking Sowell food?
Collard greens, baby!
Nah, tacos. I’m multicultural as fuck.
This is Real America
You gotta love a sport that incorporates toilet bowl scrubbing techniques.
or that we have a information-medium where Mr T cheerleads for curling, Norm McDonald does golf play-by-play, and Matt Welch has really boring conversations about baseball which i have to put on mute.
My favoritest thing in the world is listening to some illiterate fucking moron on Team Blue call a Trumpista “ignerint”. Team Blue sure does like that word. Wonder why?
“You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.” – Eric Hoffer
A corollary to that is the insults your enemy uses are the things he fears being accused of.
also
“Insults hurt in proportion to their truth.”
So I fear strafing runs, you fear Derp and OMWC loneliness?
Are you insulting yourself?
I don’t suffer from derp; I enjoy every minute of it.
I enjoy listening to illiterates on both teams. My favorite Team Red moment was when I posted about opposing Trump’s tariffs and he said that I was as ignorant about tariffs as the people who think the South was seceding because of slavery.
Well, the south was seceding because of tariffs as well, which kind of goes against that point.
There were many reasons, but this individual was trying to brush over the slavery issue completely.
I know, I was pointing out that brushing off opposition to tariffs while trying to argue other causes for the war is inane.
Trumpistas have their own favorite insults. Cuck being near the top. As Derp said, we use insults that would hurt us.
This is why the favorite insults for Team Blue are accusations of racism and stupidity.
For the same reason, Team Red prefers accusations of weakness, ugliness, and sexual perversion.
When I’m really mad I call people a bet wetter…
I accuse people of being handsome and smart..
International Fuckwit?
I bet Trump didn’t even read that Piketty book they all haven’t touched since they bought it.
Education doesn’t equate to being enlightened or humanism. I mean, there’s a reason why most of the great villains in comic books were, like, smart.
OT: Happy now Democrats? You got the war you wanted.
https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/winter-olympics-2018-usa-russia-hockey-coaches-dont-shake-hands-after-4-0-russia-rout/
Mr Putin, tear down this shitposter’s FB wall!
Could education have helped this woman?
Woman accompanies handbag through X-ray machine
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Officials at a Chinese railway station are asking passengers not to crawl into X-ray machines after a woman who refused to part with her handbag did just that.
Staff at the Dongguan Railway Station in the southern part of the country said a woman traveling during the Lunar New Year rush on Sunday attempted to take her purse with her through the security scanner, but she was told the bag would have to go through the X-ray machine with the rest of her luggage.
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The footage shows a security guard laughing in surprise as the woman climbs out of the machine and continues on with her luggage.
Station officials said they want to remind passengers not to enter the machines as the radiation can be harmful.
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“Beautiful evening. You can almost see the stars! Ra-di-a-tion. Yes, indeed. You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box do-gooders telling everybody it’s bad for you. Pernicious nonsense! Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year! They oughta have ’em, too.”
The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.
but as far as the subject of this piece…
1 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleology
2 – https://twitter.com/humanprogress
Education is, as Mustang said, just another tool. The problem doesn’t lie in stupid vs smart; it’s in people who wish to control others vs those who wish to live in peace. By the way, my internet was down the last few days, was there a Cal game I missed?
Last year I decided I’d go back and reread some stuff I hadn’t read in decades. Crime and Punishment, ten or so plays by Shakespeare etc. Just finished 1984 last night. Much more intense book than when I read it Uni.
Report to room 101 immediately.
some more etymology
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educate (v.)
mid-15c., “bring up (children), to train,” from Latin educatus, past participle of educare “bring up, rear, educate” (source also of Italian educare, Spanish educar, French éduquer), which is a frequentative of or otherwise related to educere “bring out, lead forth,” from ex- “out” (see ex-) + ducere “to lead,” from PIE root *deuk- “to lead.” Meaning “provide schooling” is first attested 1580s. Related: Educated; educating.
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“Let me ask a question, does it mean that from all the way back to thousands of years ago education has done nothing to stop wars?”
There’s a bit in Remarque’s “All Quiet on the Western Front” where on of the characters, Paul I think, ponders that everything he learned during his schooling is useless in the military. He joined the military at the urging of his teacher.
A very good friend of mine never went to school past high school, and is smarter and more knowledgeable than all of the highly educated Progressives I’ve run into in the Boston area.
Well it Is Boston…..
My brother graduated highschool, and went into the navy. Now he’s a nuclear engineer, because that’s what the navy trained him as. Where as I have a college degree and never got a call back from Burger King when I applied there a few years ago.
I applied to work at a bowling alley once. The application had an essay section, because apparently this was a high-class place and they wanted to keep out the riff-raff. The question was “why do you want to work in a bowling alley?”
I wrote: because I love the sounds of pins getting knocked down.
I didn’t get the job. That was the low point of my work life until I lasted a mere 2 nights as a stocker at a liquor store.
the application had an essay-section. The question was “why do you want to work in a liquor store?”
so i wrote: “because i want to experience an armed robbery”
I kept my revolver in my coat pocket. I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I don’t miss Chicago.
Apropos
school doesn’t take stupid people and make them smart. it doesn’t even take smart people and make them smarter. at best it gives them both stuff to do so *other people* can measure whether they’re smart or stupid, and about what.
It makes more sense if you think about it more like, “people volunteering (and paying for) for a very long psych experiment”, where you are award with a fancy-receipt at the end called a Diploma.
Some of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard uttered were in a university class.
Amen to that Brother!
Don Lemon University? No cheating. What link is this?
“Preventing wars” is an odd metric for measuring the usefulness of education.
Sounds like a metric deliberately designed to go “see education does nothing.”
It sounds like something some 3rd worlder would say to minimize his inferiority about coming from a culture who was irrelevant. “All your fancy smarts didn’t end wars.”
True, but it does prevent people from being on the slaughtered side of war. And it seems pretty useful for preventing starvation, and creating wealth, and many other things.
Education isn’t a silver bullet for all the worlds ills, especially when it’s being used as a measurement for intelligence, but it sure as hell beats ignorance.
War, that is violence, is an eternal and inescapable part of human nature; of the human condition.
Thinking education can solved that is obtuse.
I still can’t believe I have to read the directions for Jell-O.
This person is pursuing a degree, which I thought was evident in the first paragraph. At no point was it inferred that being ignorant is the way to go.
“The Case for Ignorance.” We say that ignorance is bliss. “Shiranu ga hotoke” – Ignorance is the Buddha. I like that more.
*Education – HUH! – What’s it good for! Absolutely Nothing! (Say it again)*
Was briefly in a Phd program in Classics in a state school. At a seminar lunch talk on the assasination of Julius Caesar by a hugely respected professor (whom all the other profs hated because he was not an out-and-out Marxist) a self-righteous prog professor used the Q-and-A session to launch into a tirade about how the assasination of a Roman politician in 44 BCE was exactly like……George Bush invading Iraq.
That “learned”, blinkered intellectual makes over 100k per year to teach one class and say profound, bullshit statements like that.
Needless to say, I did not stick around long. Education, indeed.
Bush was the first illegitimate leader to ever invade another country under (alleged) false pretences.
I got out quickly too. I had the grades to move on to a Masters program but didn’t want to stick around to find an institution was willing to bestow a Masters diploma on me.
Blech.
I mean, the jackets professors wore were just gross.
Are you accusing sweet ol Barbara Bush of infidelity?
/Lionel Hutz shudder.
There is a certain tin foil charm to watching people pound square pegs into round holes and be proud of themselves.
I should write a screenplay about a young, naive derpetologist who slowly understands the horrors around him.
I’ll call it Foil Metal Helmet.
Put a Falstaff character in it and I’ll read it.
I’ve been to Flagstaff, but never Falstaff.
He’s the patron saint of late night Glib posters:
“Marry, then, sweet wag, when thou art king, let not us that are squires of the night’s body be called thieves of the day’s beauty. Let us be Diana’s foresters, gentlemen of the shade, minions of the moon, and let men say we be men of good government, being governed, as the sea is, by our noble and chaste mistress the moon, under whose countenance we steal.”
Could education help in this situation?
https://www.alternet.org/world/penis-snatching-rise-africas-genital-stealing-crime-wave-hits-countryside
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Reports of genital theft have spread like an epidemic across West and Central Africa over the past two decades, in tandem with what appears to be a general resurgence of witchcraft on the continent. Anthropologists have explained this rise as a response to an increasingly mystifying and capricious global economy. Which is to say that when the workings of capital are as genuinely obscure as they are in today’s Africa, proceeding behind a veil of complexity and corruption, rumors of “occult economies”—often involving a trade in human organs—offer a less mystifying explanation for the radical disparities in wealth on display.
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Penis snatching, they said, was a means of supplying an illicit and lucrative trade in organs. Cameroonians and Nigerians—people from places “where they have multistory buildings”—were seen as particularly well versed in the business. “You see how advanced Cameroon is?” someone said. “It’s because they are so strong in commerce of all kinds, including in genitals and scalps.” The stolen organs, my companions said, are sold to occult healers for use in ceremonies, or else they are quickly fenced back to victims of penis snatching for a price. But the real money was to be made in Europe. One man who had spent some time living in Cameroon said he had heard of a woman there who was nabbed by airport security while trying to smuggle several penises to the Continent inside a baguette.
I asked the town doctor what he thought. Could he help the victims? He shook his head slowly—as if trying to gauge how much I believed about the whole affair—and then responded, “Western medicine is no match for this magic. It is a mysterious thing.”
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I read about a panic in Sudan about penis-snatching wizards. The rumors were spread by cell phones. It is depressing that it is possible for someone to have a cell phone and also believe in penis-shrinking wizards.
Well, being able to use a cell phone isn’t difficult. I’d be more shocked if they understood how the cell phone actually works and still believed in penis-snatching wizards.
Wait, there are all kinds of ‘scientists’ over here that say cellphones will shrink your balls. Sadly we are no less stupid, just more educated in how we exercise our stupidity.
at risk of being way too on-topic;
i am a believer in the inherent value of the liberal arts. I am aware this makes me a minority in libertarian circles. (shrug emoji)
my conception of it was formed at an early age by this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Books_of_the_Western_World
i have an edition from the mid1960s, which was a gift from grandparents to parent when they went to college. i own it now. i first started reading the ~65 books when i was a teenager. I’ve gotten through maybe not-quite half. i no longer have any ambitions to read the other half, but i still keep them around. Fuck Leibnitz anyway.
the series comes with an introduction book called “The Great Conversation” which is really just like a 200 page essay about what the purpose of ‘liberal education’ is.
The preamble of it is online, and its basically about the subject of this blog-post, and isn’t very long and is worth reading.
http://www.thegreatideas.org/libeducation.html
the point of it could be summarized by socrates apology, ‘an unexamined life is not worth living’
iow, the point of a liberal education isn’t some teleological ‘tool’ to advance the collective, objective status of the human race. its to improve the quality of an individual’s life by enriching them with insights of the past. if that has some beneficial side effects for society, then that’s certainly nice too, but it is not the reason for the education itself.
(*none of this has anything to do with ‘school’, fwiw. which is basically what i said above, re: ‘overlong psych experiment’)
its certainly a valid counter-argument to point out that after reading half those 65 books, that i still can’t fix my own plumbing or properly catch and skin a rabbit if i get hungry. which i would agree with. ‘its nice stuff, sure, but its not the only thing’.
“Education is the best provision for the journey into old age.”
-Aristotle
“Mix some foolishness with your wisdom.”
-Roman proverb
Even Spinoza allowed himself a bottle of wine each month.
I agree education in the liberal arts is important, however, in this day and age is paying to get that education from a university important?
I think you just beat me by seconds.
You can learn plenty of important things far faster and for free outside of school.
Compulsory education is welfare for teachers and administrators.
*reminder*
” in this day and age is paying to get that education from a university important?”
1 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closing_of_the_American_Mind
2 – depends on the person, whether you’ve got money to blow, what their habit of mind is already, etc.
Look at Mr. ‘I expect people to read the whole post before giving their hot take’ over here. It’s like you don’t even Glib.
1 sounds a lot like “Old Man Yells at Cloud” to me.
there’s certainly a bit of that in there.
but i think it would be a profound misunderstanding to think of Bloom as a conservative old crank. he was gay, he was a hedonist, he loved food and music and art and fucking
See: Ravelstein
i think, much like “Clash of Civilizations” or “the bell curve”…. most people only know the book-jacket summary of ‘closing of the american mind’, but not the actual book. Far more people talk ‘about’ it, and what it supposedly said (or didn’t) than have ever read it.
Hey, I resemble that remark !
I believe in them as well.
The problem is we are now essentially paying people to pursue them with the false promise of an automatic better life at the end.
It’s more “wet streets cause rain” thinking.
Home owners have more money. Therefore, make it easier to own homes and people will become richer.
College graduates make more money. Therefore, encourage kids to go to college.
Healthy people wear medium clothing. Therefore, if fat people buy medium clothes, they will become thinner.
Oh, I see you’ve already been briefed on our employee engagement strategy and our net promoter score customer satisfaction program.
For meeee, the biggest problem I have with self teaching is the lack of tests. I tend to assume that I’ll remember the salient points and move on because there’s so much more I want to know. Probably similar to music, no? If you don’t repeat and test your skills, they atrophy.
My dad was a big fan of Mortimer Adler.
What Gilmore said.
/throws hockey stick in the middle of the ice rink.
the big problem of contemporary education that i see, is that most people can’t even recognize the structures of own arguments; basically, that they’re so steeped in this method of ‘problematizing’ discourse, that they can’t even recognize a good argument from a bad one. Ultimately its all so much, “what feels right” or which is most ‘inclusive of potential meanings’. Which, by traditional standards, is actually the worst possible outcome: that in trying to say everything, people say nothing.
its something i bitch about all the time. it feels like many people don’t even recognize their own bullshit, and if you explain to them where the flaws are, they’ll look at you like you’re nuts because no one has ever demanded they be rigorously specific about what they’re actually saying.
Sloppy sophistry.
They conflate all sorts of things to the point of confusion clouding any chance at arriving at truth.
They don’t realize intellectual rigour demands DISCIPLINE and consistency.
Also see….Lebron and Durant anti-Trump diatribes.
” from all the way back to thousands of years ago education has done nothing to stop wars?”
This reminds me of the “Pray for Peace” placards the local Quakers (and others) use around here at their anti-war rallies. It seems prayer has been just as ineffective as education. Every generation of Americans, since Jamestown, has gone off to fight a war despite all the prayers to God offered by their mothers, fathers, girls friends, neighbors, etc.
straffinrun, you do voicework right?
Yes. Not as much as I used to. For some reason people find my voice amusing. Must be the “quiet desperation” in it. Why?
I didn’t think you’re English.
I’m starting to try out animation, and one of the ideas I’ve been sitting on for a long time has a Japanese character. If you want you could try on other roles as well…something that might not come to fruition, but I’m going to try and get it going.
this guy knows how to sell shit
there are finally journalists uncovering actual evidence of FL shooter’s racism and social-media “look at mah knives” stuff.
http://www.businessinsider.com/florida-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz-hated-jews-mexicans-gays-black-people-2018-2
which is nice, after spending yesterday mostly contriving them out of thin air.
what i find to be a crazy argument is that there are a bunch of people on twitter going, “This justifies the death penalty!” Using his supposed social-media posts as the *proof*
*basically say, “he’s going to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty” – but it should be denied becuz racism
my thought to this was, “if he had a Tumblr account filled with unicorns and cat-pics and weepy tales of self harm and his desire to rid the world of racism”… would people be demanding leniency? HES A FUCKING MASS MURDERER
basically, the feeling i get from many public commentators is that the ‘motive’ is worse than the crime. but the crime itself is so heinous that…. you can’t really have ‘aggravating circumstances’ for mass-murder. If its a single killing, they can often go, “look it was an act of passion, or thought he was in danger, or ‘not in right mind’… but planning a mass-shooting and carrying it out seems to me to go beyond any issue of ‘what was his thought process’ and thinking that there are any details whatsoever which are supposed to qualify the potential penalties.
My parents for all of their faults always insisted on brain candy. Neither had a Degree but we had encyclopedias, educational games and puzzles and books, books, books everywhere. When we sat down to dinner, likely as not everyone would be reading, not watching TV like at my friends’ homes. I’m not sure how healthy that situation was because my brother became radicalized at an early age and I just wanted to become a null figure.