The FBI agents arrived as expected, though they took up a few of the parking spaces for my own young troops that were working shift that day. When I looked out of my office window I sighed and thought to myself, “typical government agents.” I had deliberately marked those spaces off and told the agents they needed to park next door before their arrival. I strode outside and calmly but firmly asked the first agent I saw to get their guys’ gear packed up and moved over to the next parking area so my own people could use their own parking lot. I received a dark glare in response, but he grudgingly moved his two dozen or so agents, their heavy weapons, armored and unmarked SUVs, and the various listening and breeching devices they had to the next lot over.
Christ, what an asshole.
I’ll be damned if I let some dipshit civilian agents take up the parking spaces of my own troops. I’ve already got a chip on my shoulder from reading you lot’s opinions about law enforcement, and being a LEO myself, it’s hard not to get that nagging feeling that if I’m going to be principled about this then I’ll make sure every other prick I’ve got to work with is too.
It isn’t long before the rest of the FBI equipment starts arriving. Blackhawks, armored carriers, and a few other odds and ends that would make the tinfoil hat wearers’ skins crawl. This, of course, is all happening within the United States. I voice my displeasure to my boss, who is well aware of my leanings, and he just shrugs and says that we aren’t involved, we’re just letting them use our parking lot.
Most days, that’s the best answer I can get.
I must preface the rest of this by saying that military law enforcement is not like civilian law enforcement. My jurisdiction ends at the gates except under extremely special circumstances where there is an immediate danger to life or national security. There are very, very few circumstances where that is the case and for the most part we are quite content to sit on our own little plot of land and protect our assets and the other military personnel, their families, and the support civilians who use them. There are a lot of other differences related to military law and the various responsibilities of commanders and such. That’s not really what this post is about though. It is kind of a two-for-one post about police reform and using tactical leadership to live out libertarian principles.
As much as I hate to do so, I try to follow the police shootings that make the news. I am not a legal eagle. I can only make judgments based on what is shown to me by the extremely biased news and I can only look at so much news before I have to find something else to do that doesn’t make me want to gouge my eyes out with a wooden spoon. Every single shooting on the news in recent memory makes me cringe.
You see, the thing I dislike most in life is a person who is unwilling to reflect on their own weaknesses or shortcomings. I don’t hate them, it’s more like pity, and nothing fills me with more pity than watching some untrained lackey in a uniform tap dance around the fact that they fucked up. They fucked up real bad and it cost someone their life when there are clear (at least to me) alternatives. Worse, I listen to the excuses of their defenders…their bosses, the public, the families. It is here that I need to remind the readers that there is a lot that goes on in the background that we may not hear about, but I can tell you from a law enforcement perspective that not enough occurs for it to make a meaningful difference. When I see the excuses being made to the public, what I see is what is happening behind the scenes. The chiefs are raging about image and the lawyers are making up public releases. The other cops are busting the balls of the shooter, maybe even shunning them. At the end of it all, “cooler heads prevail” and someone decides that we can’t let the public see us admitting a mistake because it emboldens our enemies and weakens trust.
That’s all total horseshit. If it were up to me, Attorney General Mustang, I would put every cop on trial that fired their gun and they would be subject to the same rights, prosecution, and defense that every other civilian is entitled to. I want them to consider every round before it leaves the chamber and I want to eliminate, no, decimate every police union that has ever existed. Grind it up into dust and scattered to the winds with their union bosses (metaphorically) strung up for the world to see that if you become a law enforcement officer, you had better be the best, and you had better be prepared to defend every action you take ON YOUR OWN, just like every other human being you are supposed to be protecting. I would not oppose doubling the punishments against law enforcement officers for committing even the smallest offense.
A secondary part that you are all familiar with is reducing the number of laws that officers must enforce. This is a huge deal. There is no possible way to effectively police every law on the books and it doesn’t matter how much money is in the budget. The task that goes hand-in-hand with this item is the elimination of funding from tickets. A military law enforcement officer may write tickets on base, but not one cent goes towards the unit’s budget. That this isn’t the case for civilian law enforcement is so perverse that it needs to be at the top of the list for criminal justice reform. Furthermore, not everything even needs a damn law. This is pretty well covered on a daily basis around here, but it is sufficient to say that the state of law in this country is an abhorrent mess…is it any wonder that a cop can’t make an effective judgment call if they can’t even understand the law they’re supposed to be enforcing?
A third item worth addressing is the standards for recruitment. They’re abysmal. Special forces applicants undergo extensive psychological testing to determine their ability to make decisions under pressure and accomplish the mission. It would be perfectly acceptable to subject law enforcement applicants to a standard that is at least as rigorous without the emphasis on destruction. In fact, I propose the opposite of destruction. Whereas special operators are expected to mete out absolute death in the circumstances they are ordered into, we should establish a system for law enforcement applicants where they are expected to mete out absolute life so that the citizens they are protecting can be assured that when an officer responds they are going to do everything within their power to keep people alive. Here’s the real catch that will send current officers into a frothing mess: law enforcement officers must do this for people who are actively breaking the law. If a perpetrator dies, officers should be subjected to a trial wherein it is determined whether or not the officer did everything in their power to keep the perpetrator alive. An officer who has passed a mental exam reserved for special operators but who would die to protect a victim and a perpetrator would be an impressive officer indeed.
Officers must remember that they are a part of the community, even if they are coming from far away. This is something I have to remind my own troops of on a regular basis. It never fails that there is always at least one “supercop” who feels it is their absolute duty to ticket any and every offense to the maximum extent. At my last assignment, I had an individual who would line the cars up on the streets as they passed by and go down the line writing tickets. I quickly put a stop to this. It is complete and utter nonsense and hurts the community far more than it helps protect them. At every assignment I’ve been to I’ve had to rein in “supercop.” I’ve often heard the rebuttal “the law is the law” and to some extent that is true, however, I often find myself applying the NAP to decide on the application of the law. Often, this results in me simply turning someone around who may be bringing an illegal substance into my jurisdiction.
I’ve also been hit square in the face with the realization that it’s not just the “supercops” who fall victim to the idea that cops are the only thing standing between civilization and anarchy. On at least one occasion, an individual I was well acquainted with and who was a director for another unit came up to me one day and asked if it was normal for my officers to place their hands on their weapons when approached. I was a bit taken aback. This has never been standard practice since I’ve been in. In fact, we are specifically taught to keep our hands in front so as not to escalate a situation. The director informed me that during his usual early morning walk through his supply yard, coffee cup in hand, he was approached by one of my officers who had his hand on his weapon and was demanding ID. While I don’t expect the officer to recognize everyone on base, I do expect them to compose themselves in a professional manner when they are out in the community. Upon calling up my training section and initiating more focused efforts on community relations (and basic fucking police tactics, like don’t hold your gun like a scared little twerp), I quickly found out that all the “war on cops” rhetoric in recent years was weighing on my very young group of officers. I created a brief presentation on the actual statistics on violent crime and police deaths, one which was well received and proved to be a relief for my officers.
Here is where I can tie in the use of body cameras. I believe they are a wonderful tool because in my limited experience, the officer will never tell the whole truth. I do not necessarily believe that they intentionally lie at all times, however, an uneducated individual that was hired using poor standards might be inclined to forget incriminating circumstances or less likely to take in the entire set of circumstances they find themselves in. The public should demand body cameras for all their officers and not only that, there must be a punishment associated with not using them. We use fail safes in many other professions to learn what went wrong and apply those lessons in the future. If these officers have nothing to hide, then they have nothing to fear. Standard libertarian disclaimer: I don’t believe this saying applies to private citizens. It absolutely applies to government employees.
I wish I could say that it’s just bad apples, but that would be a lie. As a young officer, this became apparent to me very quickly following a meeting I had with local police chiefs. I was asked to provide my antiterrorism expertise for an event and, having never done something like this before, I was eager to talk about the subject. It wasn’t long into the meeting that I found out they weren’t really interested in terrorism. There was only a passing interest in looking for backpack bombs or something else of that nature. No, the real threat was that a group of gun rights advocates were preparing to attend the event as well with their firearms in full view. The discussion quickly turned away from spotting the real threats to this “extremist militia.” I attempted to bring the discussion back around by pointing out that anyone who is open carrying and minding their own business is going to be the least of your concerns when looking for terror threats, but to no avail. I left the discussion at the first break, disgusted by what I had learned.
It is with this little bit of background that I came up with a subject called “tactical libertarianism.” I know some of you will cringe at the concept of applying military terms to this philosophy, but it’s how I think and it’s what works for me. The idea stems from my training as a Special Reaction Team leader (a kind of SWAT) and from some experience overseas. The basic premise to me is that each individual that makes up a team must be responsible for themselves, first and foremost, so that the team is not carrying them in life threatening situations. How does this apply to libertarianism?
Every person, whether we like it or not, is a part of a team. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule, but in general, most of us can look around and see the team framework all around us. It could be a family unit, a group of friends, coworkers, etc. As libertarians, we often joke about being antisocial, the tiniest of political minorities, insignificant on any stage worth noting. I believe, however, that that is not the case. To me, there is nothing mightier than an individual who recognizes their own self-worth and can apply that to a team construct.
A fire team encourages each other. They bust each other’s balls. They push each other in the gym and help each other through tough times, but ultimately, they all know that the individual must make the conscious effort to be the best they can be for the team. An individual who doesn’t measure up, who drags the team down, is dropped.
In normal society, however, we can’t just drop someone because they drag us down. We have obligations to each other for various reasons (no, this isn’t some social contract fuckery, I’m just talking about the ties we have with the individuals around us that we voluntarily create). As libertarians, we tend to be stronger mentally because of our unceasing desire to better ourselves as individuals. We constantly look inward, challenge ourselves to find cracks in our armor, seek out knowledge and arguments, and look around us to better understand the world we live in.
Tactical libertarianism is the idea that when we, as libertarians, recognize our being part of a team, we can push the entire team forward to become stronger than it was before. You push yourself to be healthier, stronger, more financially stable, more educated, and more individualistic because of your unwavering support for the libertarian philosophy. If you model libertarianism and stand on principle within the framework of the teams you are a part of, you might find yourself able to lead the team forward because of what you have pushed yourself to do. In fact, I actively encourage that leadership. The joke is often said here that anyone who seeks a position of power is exactly the type of person who shouldn’t have it. I agree. The difference here is that by consciously acknowledging the corrupting effect of power in a position, and then making the decision to give up that power upon the expiration of your time in that position, you have already proven that you are in some way qualified to hold those positions. George Washington did not seek to be President, but he did not hide from that duty either.
An example of tactical libertarianism I will use has to do with active shooter scenarios. As the person who is considered the authority for all things violent crime-related on base, I am tasked with teaching the local populace the best way to handle a situation where someone has opened fire around you. Beyond the usual “run, hide, fight” stuff you may be familiar with, I have taken the liberty of adding violent crime statistics from the FBI into my training to show the real trend of shootings (it’s going down, regardless of how they screw up the definition). I pushed to have “run, hide, fight” clarified by my chain of command so that people understand that it doesn’t have to be in this order. You must decide what is most advantageous to your survival and follow through.
I emphasize in my training that the individual must decide how they will behave before being confronted with these dangerous situations. I’ve been given feedback that this has helped people in other situations, not just dangerous ones, where they prepare themselves ahead of time to act and it is easier to follow through later. While this may seem obvious, it is often taken for granted. This is something of a new concept in the world of stopping violent crime (especially the fight part).
As part of my training, I also began advocating that people carry a firearm whenever possible. In the context of an active shooter scenario, it is very easy to show how modern firearms are a great benefit to the individual. I have gone so far as to push for concealed carry on base (for some reason this is controversial…). A briefing that I gave made its way up and convinced some important people to allow concealed carry in certain circumstances on the installation. It’s a small step in the right direction. This is how I’ve chosen to lead my little corner of the tactical environment based on the libertarian principles of individual responsibility (deciding beforehand) and self-defense.
You may find that as you place yourself into positions to assist the team at a tactical level, leadership roles will be placed on you because of your ability to stand up and look around to see what needs to be fixed. Someday, that tactical libertarianism may expand to an operational level, or even a strategic level, but it starts right back with the fire team…the small group of individuals we each helped to move forward.
The point isn’t to propel libertarianism into some political wave to sweep the nation. It isn’t to turn it into some militaristic shadow of its former self. The point is to help your family. It’s to help your community. In doing so, you take part in and enjoy explaining the principles behind what makes it all work, the team building and organization that stems from individuals working together, without government assistance, to prove what they can do. No politician can withstand a principled individual and no government could ever hope to withstand a principled team that is the foundation of a principled community.
Let the beatings commence!
Thanks. Good article.
I am interested in how a lot, if not most, bases ended up outlawing guns, concealed or open carry. It seems to fly in the face of an armed military.
Nidal Hassan was a big fan of those policies, too.
Bases are typically run at the O-7 level (1-star) or above, and those officers are equal parts officer and politician. The more stars the more that tilts from officer to politician.
From what I’ve been able to dig up, there isn’t a specific “ban” per se, there just has to be a good reason to allow personnel to carry firearms. It’s up to the various base commanders, most of whom aren’t willing to accept the risk. It’s very easy for them to simply say “no” because no one has brought them a convincing reason to allow it.
I’m not saying I agree with that, but that’s been my experience.
Makes sense. In the same vein, my experience with base safety officers has been extremely variable, from reasonable to paranoid lunatic. Each base is like an independent country with its own resident bureaucracy and laws.
I thought it was a Clinton era policy that restricted (but not necessarily banned) firearms on bases.
I had some friends assigned to the New London submarine base in the late 90s/early 00s and they lived off-base because they owned guns. They were able to have their firearms on base if they lived on base, but they had to register the guns with the military and had some other restrictions on them that I can’t remember.
That’s essentially correct, the restriction is that the base commander has to have a valid reason to allow it for the defense of military assets.
You are correct on the second paragraph.
Ah, got it, thanks!
Coincidentally, this issue arose in a discussion I had a few hours ago down at the range.
There’s a guy at my office who – if given free rein – would be up at SIG or out with James Yeager doing Tactical/Room Clearing courses covered head to toe in black tacticool getup and Molle stuff. The only thing stopping him is – well – he likes living in Williamsburg. He’s a total pain in the ass, but somehow, I find the tolerance to walk him thru’ the stuff – not that he appreciates much of it. But he came up with an interesting issue. He asked me what the point was of having a gun with a magazine safety.
So, instead of just mouthing off like I usually do, I asked one of my mentors, a former civilian instructor at West Point. As he usually does, he answered my questions with questions.
Q. What is a command officer’s primary duty in time of war
A. To have a full-strength fighting force ready to deploy
Q. During peacetime, what is the primary reason for a base or facility not being full strength
A. Training and operational accidents, poor maintenance readiness
Q. Of those factors, what is the most amenable to solution
A. Accidents (I disagreed, but hey, he’s the mentor, I’m the acolyte)
The conclusion is that if you were a base commander, there a couple of things you can do to reduce unnecessary accidents. One of them is keeping the bulk of your command unarmed as much as you can. (The second is making sure they actually drive vehicles at under the posted speed limits)
I would imagine – for example – I intend no slight to former or current military personnel who may have experience here – that having all personnel at Ft. Drum armed is probably not as risky as having all personnel at Ft. Benning similarly armed. Having met recent graduates from BCT, I’m not sure I’d trust many of them with a wiffle bat.
So the conclusion – counterintuitively – is that a base commander has no incentive whatsoever in permitting on-base arming of any more personnel than is barely necessary.
That’s a good analysis. It also highlights a difference between the military community and the civilian community, which is that we (in the military) have volunteered to fall under certain authorities and restrictions, which includes the base commander’s authority to not allow people to be armed. This is something I try to stay cognizant of when I make the case for arming more base personnel. I’ve been lucky so far to have commanders who are willing to listen to these points without considering it an attack on their authority.
Oh, and just to close the loop. The allegedly sole point of a magazine safety is to make sure it’s really hard to fire a sidearm if the base commander decides that yes, the troops may carry their sidearms, but no, magazines will only be issued at need.
Some smartass could still have a stash of ammo, but without the mag inserted, they can’t shoot themselves or anyone else.
Having spent a lot of time around Chair Force Security Police, I’m nervous that they’re armed. Not worried they’ll go SWAT on me but that they’ll do something stupid. We lost a guy to a quick draw contest. Then there was the time the guy sitting the shade of the KC-35 wing put a few rounds through it (banded the stock on the ground) and got himself soaked in JP-4.
Never underestimate the stupidity of bored 19-yr-olds.
I did vehicle inspections and someone had chewed all the rubber off the steering wheel.
I don’t even know what to say about that.
You enlisted with Police Academy?
Yuck. First time filling up jerry cans I splashed myself and the guy holding the can with JP8. Never got the smell out of that set.
The idea stems from my training as a Special Reaction Team leader
Do you get your own cool disco theme?
Man I wish.
Nah, this is a good article.
Thank you!
We would be pleased to take any other submissions you had in mind – this or other topics.
Great Article! The more You know!
Present and accounted for!
That last paragraph sounds kinda collectivist….am I being detained?
Nicely done, Mustang!
Just keep doing the right thing.
Thanks Swiss!
There is a hard truth that many people cannot see: the jobs go to the people who show up for them.
However stringent you make the standards for police, you are still going to end up with lots of “super cops” because those are the sort of people attracted to police work.
I like the idea of reducing the number of laws, which would reduce the need for jails and police. Unfortunately, this is not a popular view. Most of the people I talk to equate repealing laws with legalizing murder.
On a side note, I think dueling should be legal. If it’s legal for 2 guys to get in a ring and punch each other, why not use swords and pistols? Think of the ratings that would get.
You are correct, of course. It would be difficult to create any sort of law enforcement system that isn’t abused.
Which is why he (rightly) said that we need fewer laws. (I have a feeling you agree with that, too.)
I make the same argument regarding campaign finance. We give the state enormous power to *uck up people’s lives. It’s only logical that people are going to go to great lengths to ensure that the power is being used to *uck up somebody else’s life. Yet when I suggest the answer is for the state to have less power to *uck up people’s lives in the first place, people think I’m insane.
I get the same reaction when I try to make suggestions about reducing the amount of regulations we are required to enforce, even from my own bosses.
That’s a great perspective, even if I found a nit here or there to disagree with.
Curious, like what? Interested in hearing your thoughts!
Perhaps “civilian agents” as the enemy versus military as ??? Also, you as the chosen King of this universe for the “young troops” didn’t sit well with me.
That’s fair.
I left a lot of details out for the sake of keeping it short and somewhat interesting. I usually run through these options with my coworkers and get their input before we implement any big changes, or to see if the changes even need to be made. These things don’t happen in a bubble and I place great emphasis on listening to the input of others. I’m sorry if I’m giving the wrong impression but I welcome the feedback.
I see that based-on your responses. Aside from the initial bristle-points stated above, I enjoyed the article and look forward to more!
It can be difficult to stop using certain phrases, especially. You are definitely right about the “young troops” quip. Shit, I am one. Someone here made the comment that they have tried to remove the phrase “I feel…” and replace it with “I think…” on this site. I find myself doing the same thing now. The inputs from the commentariat on this site and TOS have proven invaluable for how I work within my community, so thank you for that.
RAH touched on them – more tone than substance; save one. I disagree that cops need to be held to a higher standard than the rest of us, though I understand why you would want that as a corrective. I think it would be over-corrective. The flaw is in qualified immunity (and immunity in general) and shielding LEOs (and DAs) from the legal repercussions that should attenuate over-zealous (or outright bad) behavior. Exposure to liability that attaches to anyone else in the polity should suffice without enhancement.
Thank you for the feedback and your point is a good one. I didn’t mean to frame it as “civilian agents vs military” but I after re-reading it I can see where that idea came from. That in and of itself is a dangerous framework to use as it can quickly become “civilians vs military”. That was not my intent.
That’s why I didn’t think it necessary or worthwhile to jump in with them.
I think we should ask for cops to be held to higher standards for two reasons:
1. It is their job, and they claim to be professionals. Professionals should in general be held to higher standards than hobbyists.
2. It sets the bar high, so that ideally we can compromise on them just being held to the same standard, which is agreeable enough.
Great article and some terrific insights. Thank you.
Nice lead-in. I immediately thought “Oh, yeah, exactly, fucking feebs.”
The second thought is “The enforcers are a reflection of the polity.”
I won’t stalk back to see which branch you’re MP in. However, I’d suggest you’re a basically a reflection of a self-selected volunteer “community”. With a weirdly libertarian bent, of course.
“The second thought is “The enforcers are a reflection of the polity.”
I won’t stalk back to see which branch you’re MP in. However, I’d suggest you’re a basically a reflection of a self-selected volunteer “community”. With a weirdly libertarian bent, of course.”
No wonder I’m such a minority in the community then!
A self-selecting volunteer “community” that has relatively few priors for their age and class, let’s say =).
Good article!
I think that the biggest danger in policing (and in any venture) is a lack of accountability. If you take accountability out of the market, you get a culture of shitty companies putting out shitty product. If you take accountability out of politics, you get a culture of Journolist and the various other biases of the elites. If you take accountability out of policing, you get a culture of abusive assholes and trigger happy fraidy cats.
The status quo won’t change until police officers have their knighthood stripped away from them and are treated like normal people doing a normal job.
This is part of why I rail against the term “first responders”. The term gets used to refer to those who have the government imprimatur and who by extension should have privileges above the rest of us.
I get particularly pissed when I see a story about a volunteer who helped in an emergency, only for “first responders” to arrive later in the story. No, dumbass, the volunteer was the first responder.
Interesting write up. I’m cool with leos, based on my first hand experiences. However, I am still wary/paranoid based on what I see in the news. Does that make sense?
What you’re saying is you haven’t had a bad first-hand experience yet.
This is true. However, even when I earned the interactions, I was still treated well.
Yes it does. It’s part of why I wrote the article. The idea that we (LEOs) have created an environment where the first reaction is paranoia is wrong, in my opinion, and this stems from the fact that people don’t know if they’re breaking laws (because there are so many) and they don’t know what a LEO’s response will be to anything they do. That’s not a good way to interact with another person in general, much less someone with the force of law behind them.
I get what you are saying. I am very wary of law enforcement even though if honest my personal experience has been overwhelmingly positive (yeah white privledge!!!). I think it’s easy to collectivize cops as “power hungry assholes” (looking at you TOS) but if we back up and treat them as individuals in continuity with our principles we realize they are just a reflection of our society; sure there are dicks but there are also decent people and a lot of in-between….the problem is, as was deftly pointed out, are the laws on the books and the politicians that profit from them. Clean up the laws and unions and we’ll still have problems and corruption but much less so and far more localized.
My interactions with cops have gotten fewer and less unpleasant as I’ve gotten older, wealthier, and bought nicer cars.
Ditto. I used to drive an old (72) Suburban that I wrecked and put back together that ended up being five different colors. Got pulled over all the time, the pony tail probably didn’t help.
Th only interaction I’ve had with cops in the last 10 years was giving them a bit of shit about the way they arrested a homeless guy.
I could walk around with a kilo of coke in a fanny-pack perfectly safely, which is as it should be (I wouldn’t though- my coke days are behind me, and I would never wear a fanny-pack.) I’ve got some very good acid just sitting in my freezer and I keep bugging my buddy to come through with a few grams of apparently great Molly, because I have been out for a few months and he’s been very slow about re-supplying me. I buy Molly several grams at a time, once every couple of years.
I feel pretty safe admitting that, even though in theory my IP address could be traced and my freezer could be raided. LSD is still pretty scheduled, but it’s not like I pass it around, or even take it more than once a year or so.
In theory I am a felon, and a fairly serious felon according to the schedule. In reality I am a guy who likes (less and less frequently as I get older) to play with his brain chemistry in ways he understands very well after decades of doing so. In court I’d just be a felon.
I think it very unlikely that any series of events that could actually lead to me being charged with a felony would occur. But… that doesn’t change the fact that I’ve been continuously a felon since I was 12. There has never been a point in my adult life when I didn’t think it at least possible that I could suddenly be charged with a felony, for no particularly good reason.
TBH, I’m terrified of cops, despite the fact that I almost never have to deal with them. I live what I consider a measured life, a life designed such that it does not impinge on other lives more than is inevitable. Cops… well they measure themselves by how much they impinge, right? And of course that’s necessary, to a degree, but it’s very easy to go overboard with that isn’t it?
As part of my training, I also began advocating that people carry a firearm whenever possible. In the context of an active shooter scenario, it is very easy to show how modern firearms are a great benefit to the individual.
Contrast with ABC News “study” showing people carrying concealed weapons won’t be able to react effectively. Note the very contrived scenario.
Most people probably won’t react effectively but that is a separate opinion from my law enforcement perspectives. People generally react poorly when confronted with stressful situations (see: Hawaii), but if allowing people to carry means even one more person can react properly before authorities arrive then that’s fewer innocent people who will be dead in a shooting.
Just to clarify, there are many people who also react favorably to stressful situations, but they are a smaller group. This is why they should be armed. I also posit that arming more people would force people to decide before they have to act, leading to better outcomes.
Not to mention forcing the alleged ne’er-do-well to consider if they even want to act in the 1st place.
I understand. I was more contrasting you with the police in that video. I doubt any of them would advocate people carry firearms whenever possible. True, there are some nuggets of wisdom in that video, that one should train and prepare for a scenario.
That video is…interesting. You are right, very contrived. This is where I see a significant difference between libertarians and…well…almost anyone else and is related to the community points that I wrote about. If people are allowed to exercise their rights they will learn better judgment in exercising them and can hold each other accountable for that as well, separate from any need for government involvement.
Mustang, that’s a great point. I’m going for concealed carry training and, if possible, some tactical situation work.
I hope to God I never have to use my piece, but if I do, I want to do so effectively.
No politician can withstand a principled individual and no government could ever hope to withstand a principled team that is the foundation of a principled community.
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Nice work, Mustang! I enjoyed this very much. I have a number of LEO friends and family with whom I might share this with 😉
Thanks!
This was great. You’re one of the good ones and one can hope your methods go viral.
Thanks Rufus! One can only hope. It would require a massive cultural shift, though, and that worries me. I do see more people questioning the “Thin Blue Line” narrative and that’s a good thing, but there are many groups who are making this into something it isn’t. In my opinion, race has very little to do with it. The “War on Poverty/Drugs” policies have decimated communities and the inability of officers to accept any sort of responsibility has created a terrible system of injustice. Unfortunately, for there to be any progress it would require both the left and the right to loosen their grasp on policies they hold dear, and I just don’t see that happening.
You nailed it in the article. Too many laws used for balancing the city budgets. Until you fix that everyone is pissing in the wind.
Someone around here referred me to Bill James’ ‘Popular Crime’, it was a wonderfully written book only James could write – that is, it’s all about context with a dash if humour. Anyway, he pretty much conclude the same thing you said. Although he was harsher with liberals.
My God. Sorry about the grammar. James’ “Popular crime”. It was a wonderfully….
And ‘concluded’ the same thing.
Mustang is Repairman Jack, isn’t he.
Holy shit. I’ve got something else to read!
I was reminded of a memorable scene where Jack takes out a shooter on the NYC subway and he’s disgusted with everyone around him who don’t/won’t/can’t defend themselves and each other (their little temporary community, as it were). The author is a known libertarian, FWIW.
He also wrote “The Keep”, one of the best worst movies of the 80s. It’s the first book in the series. I can’t recommend both series (they’re sort of intertwined) enough.
The webz tells me The Tomb is the first. Just sent it to my Kindle, regardless.
I’ll never catch up.
You’re right, that’s the first “Repairman Jack” book but it’s simultaneously the 2nd book in the “Adversary Cycle” of which The Keep was the first book. Thereafter the series diverge until the end where they merge again.
Its a pretty good series although I believe that Wilson decided to tie every novel he ever wrote together in one giant universe, I think he had to rewrite some early books and it comes off kind of strained at times. also I think the series is 3-4 books to long. He definitely milked that cow dry.
I am surprised that RJ isn’t mentioned more around here. he seems like a perfect fit with the other nerd shit lots of posters here are into, fucking weirdos.
Yeah, the series are not too well known. You’re right that he rewrote the last “Adversary” book in order to tie it into the RJ series. I wasn’t bothered a bit, it worked for me. I am a big fan of the “one universe” thing a lot of these genre writers do so… yeah.
Well I did read them all so it didn’t bother me too much. The way he would take some part of an older book and work it into the RJ stories felt hokey to me. Like the sword from ‘Black Wind’ for example.
I know a guy who a cop in a small town. He got fired because he pulled over the DA for drunk driving and insisted on charging him.
It’s a given that power will be abused. Many people don’t get that.
There’s a great book called The Finest Judges Money Can Buy. It has my seal and walrus of approval.
A few weeks ago, I heard the old bullshit about how a gun owner is more likely to shoot himself than an intruder.
My response was if it’s really true that guns increase danger instead of reduce it, why do cops carry guns? Why do celebrities and politicians hire armed bodyguards?
The response was basically “that’s different because they have training and you’re just a peasant!”
It was then that I noted that I spent a few weeks sleeping with an M16.
This runs parallel to the idea that communities can act as teams to hold each other responsible without the use of government. The more people who are exposed to individual responsibility, such as owning a firearm, the more they are able to police each other against stupidity. As it is, with so few people being familiar with various subject matter, they can’t effectively police the community as individual citizens because they simply don’t know what the standard should be and only go off what they are fed by the media. This is where libertarians can help lead.
“It was then that I noted that I spent a few weeks sleeping with an M16”
Ammosexual.
I named it Shooty Shooty Bang Bang.
My favorite naming story:
1st soldier: I named my weapon Oprah, ’cause she’s black and powerful.
2nd soldier: I named my weapon Bill Cosby ’cause…
Drill Sgt: Private, you will give your weapon a different name.
The worst part is that the person I was arguing with was also in the military.
On a side note, women can choose to leave the military when they get pregnant. Well ain’t that a nice escape hatch.
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U.S. Central Command is not tracking the number of troops who must leave the Iraq war theater due to pregnancy, prompting military advocates to charge the Pentagon wants to keep secret what could be an embarrassing statistic.
There have been anecdotal reports of unmarried soldiers becoming pregnant in Iraq. One military police unit reported losing three women for that reason. Pfc. Lynndie England, the 21-year-old photographed holding a leash attached to an Iraqi prisoner, became pregnant during an affair with another soldier at the Abu Ghraib prison compound in Iraq.
But overall numbers are hard to come by.
“We’re definitely not tracking it,” said a spokesman for U.S. Central Command, which runs the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. “I’ve been attending operations briefings for two years, and I don’t think I have heard once that pregnancy has come up.”
As in the case of Pfc. England, pregnancies can be embarrassing to the military. In May 2003, the Marine Corps was forced to bring a Marine back home after she gave birth on a Navy warship in the Persian Gulf. She told superiors she did not know she was pregnant.
During the 1991 Persian Gulf war, the press branded the destroyer tender USS Acadia the “Love Boat” after 36 sailors — 10 percent of the women aboard — became pregnant while deployed in support of Operation Desert Storm.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/jun/15/20040615-115647-8125r/
But remember- anyone who has doubts about women in the military is a sexist caveman.
This is true. There are also duty restrictions that can be placed on them during the length of the pregnancy that can affect shift work.
For example: they can be limited to the number of hours they are permitted to stand during the day. What does this mean? It means that if their duty involves standing at a gate and checking IDs, that they will be pulled from that duty and go to work at a desk. This leaves the shift leader with one less person to be able to post in the duty rotation.
Thanks so much for this article, Mustang. I found myself nodding as I read (not nodding off).
Glad you enjoyed it SP, thanks for hosting a great site!
A few years ago a cop was driving around my daycare. People were joking about how we had good protection. I found it odd but thought nothing of it. Later one of my employees was upset because she was ticketed. The jerk was just doing it to catch someone stay one minute over the 30 min limit parking. It wasn’t about the children turns out.
We called the police chief and expressed much disappointment because that’s not what a cop should be doing at the peak of rush at 7am while parents are going in and out. We told him we felt it was bush league and made people nervous. He was courteous and said he would look into it.
It never happened again.
I’ve had to rein that in before too. Stop harassing people and do something worth the taxpayer’s money.
Cousin Tres as a career fireman, was selected to become an arson investigator. Since in the State of Ohio, arson guys are granted arrest powers, he had to attend the Peace Officer Training Course. Having become an ersatz “cop”, he made spare change on his days off as “part-time” for our small SW Ohio town. A town he and I both grew up in. He was actually (despite the genetic pre-disposition to being a colossal d-bag) a good cop, that understood “community policing”. It lasted just shy of a year before he turned in his badge. In his words (paraphrased), “I cant stand working with these trigger-happy, 21 year-old, glory hounds the department keeps hiring. All they want to do is screw with people and try to make a name.”
I’ve had that kind of thing happen before, with peers and employees. It took my boss’ personal connections “at the top” to make it stop. It was constant stupid racial harassment things. I stand by the idea that the enforcers reflect the polity. In that town, at that time, the “residents” didn’t want “those people” lingering around.
Wait. We’re talking about elves and dwarfs right?
Sgt. Vimes nods in agreement.
I applied to be a cop in Chicago in 2013. I was invited to sit for the exam, but didn’t go because I got a job in Texas.
I applied because I thought it would be cool to be a detective (eventually) and catch crooks. At the time, I had been working in a bubble wrap factory.
Derp at the exam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HvmtbZzA40
I like the scene from Spies Like Us better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9-7AeFD5w
I failed a driving test by one question the first time I took it. Years later when I took it in IL, I think the same thing happened, but that time the grader gave passed me anyway.
What I’m saying is, you probably don’t want to ride in my car.
Reminds me of how I ended up in prep school.
Reminds me of the the first time I got laid.
My god, the temptation to just pop bubbles all day long.
Right?!
I worked in a junk mail factory for a brief period of time. That was the most depressing place I’ve ever worked.
Great article.
Slightly OT
I’ve been reading a book by a KGB defector. He says that a standard tactic was to send a woman off to seduce a target while another agent filmed them kissing. The photos would then be used to blackmail the target to force him to spy for the KGB. It worked well on married men. They stopped doing that after a target (a foreign diplomat) thought the photos were cool and wanted copies so he could brag to his friends.
Bumped for accuracy.
+1 I did not have sex with that woman.
Great article Mustang.
I follow PINAC and various other LEO accountability groups and it (used) to amaze me the number of time officers approach people with either weapons out or at least ready to be drawn. The attitude of occupier is toxic
We create problems for ourselves by doing this. It is instant escalation and I’ve never seen training that says to start off an encounter this way.
Great article Mustang. I follow police issues closely also and am also in the military (although not an MP- I am an augmentee though). All your experiences sync up with mine without exception, sadly to include domestic LE having a hard-on for “militia types” and conflate them without distinction with actual terrorists. I’ve had a few conversations that lead me to believe that some of these guys are itching for a confrontation with a sovereign citizen or even someone open carrying. It was hard to keep my peace, I really wanted to say “so how does them exercising their Constitutional rights constitute a threat?” I didn’t because I knew that wasn’t going to be well received because in the same breath they were bitching about cops whom had raised the same question.
Mustang:
The population that you police have bought into a voluntary total institution, both themselves and their families. How much interaction do you have with populations (not the LE, but the people) outside that institution? If you do have interactions, do the attitudes and tactics you use on-base translate well outside of it? Do you have frequent enough interactions to generalize?
I ask because I’ve always been wary of the LEAs that deal with really difficult communities because it always seems like a self-reinforcing downward spiral. If you develop people outside that spiral, but dip into it with success (defined however), that would be a good sign, I think.
This is an interesting point. While the population I interact with is limited, they are very diverse. Spouses, children, and other military members all come from different backgrounds and will reflect those backgrounds in their interactions. We encounter drugs, suicides, murder, domestic disputes, and everything else they have off base, but I’ve not done a lot of thought about how the military command structure might affect those interactions. The bases are also not insular. They employ people from the local community and there are thousands of contract workers and other government employees who are not military members who live off base but work on base.
I do know that we spend a lot of time trying to build relationships with the local police forces and communities because we also live in them and work with them (not in any law enforcement capacity, posse commitatus and all that, but to share local area crime trends and such), at least in my branch of the military. I’ve attended meetings as the representative of the chief of police for my jurisdiction. The language and the discussion that civilian law enforcement and military law enforcement uses seems to be interchangeable.
Because of this, it has always seemed to me that there are many solutions that could work both within and outside of the military law enforcement community. This, coupled with the sentiment and solutions that I see here, make me believe that they aren’t as separate and distinct as a lot of people might think.
It is getting too late for me tonight, alas. I know (oh do I) that the majority of your policing is the same as any other town/community/whatever. But, in my experience, those awful edge cases (say 10%) of what you deal with are less intense and horrible than the edge cases that a non mil area with the same sort of people deal with — to some extent. From my observations, I think that the reactions and comportment of a police force are shaped primarily by the 10% of shitty edge cases.
So, if we pretend that your 10% of shitty edge cases are not as bad as the terrible 10% nearby, the question becomes — do your techniques, reinforced by your team’s experiences, work just as well as outside the base? Can your team handle the notionally-worse 10% off-base encounters?
I guess my hypothesis is that LE encounters for 100% of cases end up being driven by the shitty 10% of encounters in that space. I think that handling the shitty 10% capability-wise is independent of the attitude it develops.
That makes sense and is likely true. The screening process for military recruits almost guarantees what you describe.
Ugh, just hit my “local” news channel again – it’s all MLK Day #resist from DC poo-bahs. Oh, now it’s an immigrant rally. At least it’s local.
“watch locally, think globally”
amirite?
Exactly what I thought. I guess they’re just catering to their audience.
Yeah, that drives me nuts as well.
The Immigrant Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmEnBD9g-E
Not Zoso.
oh, derp: you were asking the other day about music
one thing i listen to a shitload of from the last 2 years is “european library music” of the 60s-80s (mostly italian, french, but also handful from all over the place)
i think i’ve explained here before – library music is basically stuff composed and recorded prior to use in TV or Film productions. Production companies would then license the tunes if they wanted to use them, or the artist could sell them.
most of it sounds like “movie soundtracks” (because that’s what most were, really). If you like movie soundtracks of the 1970s, you might find some of this interesting. if you sample it, you might go, “jesus, most of it is fucking elevator music and porn soundtracks”…
…and yes, there’s a lot of ‘mellow strings + piano’ and cheesy eurojazz.. but there’s also a wide range of shockingly good compositions, and some that’s experimental/tonal early electronic stuff that can be mind-bending. its really a goldmine of interesting music.
Some of the publishing companies would release albums of ‘thematic’ stuff, based around certain instruments, or certain moods, or certain rhythms. e.g. album titles like “Action!” (high tempo chase music) or “Fear” (scary soundtracks) or “water” (things with lots of reverb, echo – basically underwater mood music). Other composers released stuff under their own names after they’d written lots of tracks and developed a following. Its a weird category of music that takes a while to figure out. (here’s an example of one of the TV-music library records)
there’s a few guys on youtube who curate large collections of this stuff. this guy is my favorite
https://www.youtube.com/user/feldeg44/videos
he has more than 1 channel *(every now and then the copyright people come knocking).
there’s a few ‘big names’ worth checking out: Piero Umiliani, Janko Nilovic, Ennio Morricone(whom you’re probably familiar with), Alessandro Alessandroni, Gianni Marchetti, Pierre Dutour, Brian Bennet, Nino Nardini, Pierre Alain Dahan …. actually, more than a few. A couple dozen.
Anyway, i warned you anything i recommended would be too weird. But i think its great stuff in case you’re ever taking a long-drive solo, or studying/reading, or making an arty porno film.
(gilmored)
At least you weren’t DOOM’d.
“The task that goes hand-in-hand with this item is the elimination of funding from tickets.”
Spot on Mustang. Absolutely correct. All fines that are levied against the citizens should be converted to paper money and burned on the courthouse lawn every Friday at noon. Incentives matter. I don’t want any government or private entity to profit from the predation of the citizenry by police.
Here in Ohio, we had a bill to take out speed-cameras, on the basis of 4th amendment, since you cant confront your camera in court. It was upheld for a bit, till some smaller communities banded up (pissed over lost revenue), and took it to Ohio Supreme Court. They fought on the basis of “safety”, “public interest”, “feelz”, and won. Speed cameras back up. So now, a couple legislators have pushed a new bill arguing that since those cameras are all about “safety”, any monies collected in the course of traffic enforcement from them are equally deducted from state funding to said municipality. Oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth!
They upheld speed cameras? The safety exception to the 4th Amendment is going to be the death of us all.
Random roadblocks for DUI enforcement are absolutely blatantly unconstitutional. They were ruled constitutional by the supreme court because apparently somewhere in a little read section of the constitution, there is a “compelling government interest clause.”
I have not been able to find this clause, but I’m sure it’s in there somewhere.
I object to speed cameras and red light cameras for many reasons, but mostly based on the fact that the ticketing agency has no idea who was driving. How can my car be guilty of something?
I once had a red light ticket issued on a rental. I managed to get it vacated by showing the license plate had clearly been read incorrectly. There was no way I could have picked the car up in Austin, driven to a Dallas intersection in under two hours and been photographed there, returned the car in Austin the next day, and only clocked 65 total miles.
The rental company “fined” my credit card and wouldn’t refund that charge. I was furious and never used them again.
Besides the Federal Reserve?
I don’t have a lot of unique thoughts on policing. Insofar as they are expected to enforce the law, and there is currently a glut of lawyers, requiring a law degree for advancement could improve the pool a bit. The unions have to go. Qualified immunity should be reduced, but not eliminated; it should be an affirmative defense that not only includes the self-defense aspects available to everyone, but should also protect the minimum force necessary to preserve rule of law and public peace, counterbalanced with a duty to de-escalate.
I’m skeptical of the education requirement. Federal law enforcement (and some local agencies) require a four degree with advanced degrees (particularly JDs) are not uncommon. I think the culture and current selection process for law enforcement are far more part of the problem than the education or lack of education.
great Article mustang. I will share this with some of my more liberty minded friends.
Fantastic work. I especially like reducing the number of laws.
“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
-Rand
^^^ that’s one of my favorites.
“A secondary part that you are all familiar with is reducing the number of laws that officers must enforce.”
A small quibble. I believe that reducing the number of laws for officers to enforce should be the primary goal, not the secondary.
I agree. My wording was not very good here. It was meant as a secondary point, not a secondary goal. Thanks!
*second point, dammit. Not secondary.
Goodnight, Missus Calabash. Wherever you are.
“In fact, I propose the opposite of destruction. Whereas special operators are expected to mete out absolute death in the circumstances they are ordered into, we should establish a system for law enforcement applicants where they are expected to mete out absolute life so that the citizens they are protecting can be assured that when an officer responds they are going to do everything within their power to keep people alive.”
That would be wonderful. Unfortunantly the current supreme court jurisprudence is the exact opposite of that.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
WASHINGTON, June 27 – The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.
“The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman’s pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed.”
That scrummage is way too high and getting twisted all around. I’d not be happy if I was in the middle of that mess.
Related to security/police state:
Check out the episode “Safe and Sound” of Electric Dreams on Amazon Prime. It’s a speculative future all about the omnipresent encroachment of technology and abuse of privacy masquerading as safety and convenience. It’s also a pretty poignant criticism of the Coastal Elite-Flyover divide in the US. Don’t want to give away spoilers, but it’s all about the government using “terrorist attacks” to create a state of constant surveillance using devices that are so convenient, useful and functional that you can’t really live without one, yet you are ultimately enslaved by them (sound familiar)?
Applause. I understand why cops get cynical, and I even understand why they start to misbehave once they get cynical.
But the interactions between cops and people are a reinforcing cycle. We have more ability to control the cop end than the people end, and keep things from getting into bad feedback loops. Sure, cops are human, but we should ask more of them than we ask of dug dealers, mainly because we can ask things of them in a way we can’t ask things of drug dealers.
Great article, enjoyed it. More please like this.
Law enforcement reform should be a major plank in the Libertarian Party’s platform and the #1 project of every local Libertarian organization.
Good article Mustang. I wonder how people would react if MPs uniionized, haha.
There have been attempts to unionize the military in the past.
The Dutch say “Hi!”.
(Bonus points for also continuing to enslave conscripts Aruba and Curaçao)
*in Aruba and Curaçao
Old story I just found out about, Osama Bin Laden was way more into afgahns than we ever knew.
Two thoughts:
The local city police runs jaywalking enforcement stings from time to time, citing pedestrians. Meanwhile county employees, including sheriff’s office deputies and non-uniformed staff, daily jaywalk through traffic particularly at evening rush hour because it’s more convenient than to walk about thirty feet one way and then back using the crosswalk signal to get to the parking lot from the courthouse downtown. Not once have the city police conducted jaywalk stings at that location.
Reading Rebus novels, I noticed how being a cop brings few privileges. For instance, the meter maids write parking tickets, even against police vehicles while working, for being illegally parked. I think that sense of self policing and enforcing the law against “fellow” brothers in blue needs to be established. What happened to that one state cop who ticketed other departments speeding and driving recklessly?
Definitely not shitholes:
I’d like to thank everyone for the their comments and feedback. I’ve never done something like this before. I am brainstorming for future contributions, though I will probably steer away from military subjects. You all brought up some great talking points and it is all appreciated!
Thanks for the contribution, Mustang. I’m always glad to hear other libertarians bring in their life experience and perspective here.
I’m looking forward to your future contributions.
Good article Mustang. My last job before I retired was as a garrison (aka base) commander for the Army. When I took command it became quickly apparent that I needed to, and did, bring my police force under control. It was an ugly 9 months with much wailing, gnashing of teeth and lots of union complaints. Luckily my top lawyer was not a typical lawyer and worked as my advocate and hated to lose and pay out a settlement as much as I did. Mustang hit it correctly, from the super cops to the criminals and thugs in uniform the leadership needs to take them all on. I did three things the first week in my position that were hated, but eventually took: 1)absolute prohibition on any police referring to “civilians” when talking about people on base; 2) when checking ID’s at the gate for anybody who lived on base you were to say “Welcome home” and in the mornings to workers coming to base “Welcome back”. I did this to make sure the police emphasized that they knew the people and were there for them; 3) I pushed back and refused to train a “SWAT” team in spite of DoD policy until the police earned my trust. (That took a year.)
My base had a public highway and a public road that crossed as well that we had shared jurisdiction with the county. I told the police not to ask about marijuana in the car on the public roads. They didn’t listen and wrote Fed charges for MJ for people not entering the cantonment area. My lawyer came to me and we agreed to not contest them in the Federal court and I went to the police and told them what I was not doing because they didn’t listen. After about a year the police were under control and I let the police chief train the Special Reaction team but had a standing policy that the team could not be even assembled for a call until I or my SGM gave the approval and that each major step involved our approval. I did get some police appreciation for hiring game wardens to handle on base hunting and work with local game wardens.
Military commanders have wide latitude over privately owned weapons, and the garrison commander has about the widest discretion. The base I was at was known for the high quality hunting and fishing. (deer, elk, turkey, pig, quail, dove, ducks etc) The police kept wanting me to approve registering hunters weapons and I refused. My reasoning was simple- if there was an accidental shooting and the person stayed we didn’t need the weapon beforehand. If they fled we would soon know because every hunter was signed into the area and we would find out who was missing. If they were poaching they wouldn’t register the weapon. Plus shooting somebody with a big bore weapon probably was going to involve an entry and exit wound and a pathologist would just be giving an estimation of the round anyway. I did hear that after my change of command the incoming commander changed that rule. I also did not ask residents to register their guns with the base (as I could have ordered) because I had no intention of registering my firearms and “good for the goose, good for the gander”.
Mustang also raises a good point about training. I believe that Grossman is a vile human. I read his book “On Killing” years ago and thought he had some good points from training combat soldiers from US/western euro societies. But then he misapplied his own lessons and started peddling them to police departments looking for reasons to dodge accountability. I agree with the commenters above that police should be held to a higher standard for deadly force. If we can’t get that I would grudgingly accept an equal standard. If an average citizen could walk away with no jail time or a trial for the circumstances involved in a shooting, then a cop can. If I or any citizen face trial a cop should, and if the circumstances would involve a guilty verdict for me- then they should for a cop.
It always struck me that for all the pain in the ass the police caused me a a garrison commander, I never had anything but positive experiences with the base fire department.
Thank you! This is good insight. I wrote down a lot of the feedback and I will probably just copy and paste this one.
I also read On Killing and On Combat when I was in tech school. I appreciated the lessons that prepared me to deal with stress ahead of time but looking back now that’s about all I got out of it. I never wanted to be a cop, the job was assigned to me, so that may be a big difference in my mentality. I have no desire to ever work in law enforcement after this career either.
I was going to assume this was Bragg – until you said Elk.
I’m late to this party, but I wanted to make sure I read it. I was not dissapointed. Great article Mustang!
Same here. It is an excellent article.
Thanks MS and what appears to be a naked intruder!
*pumps shotgun*
Uh, it clearly states that I’m NOT a naked intruder…
I’m not exactly in the same job as you, but that’s my sentiment, too.