STEVE SMITH SATURDAY EVENING LINKS

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STEVE SMITH HAVING BIT OF TROUBLE SLEEPING LATELY. NOT SURE WHY. HAS BRAND NEW PILE OF LEAVES TO SLEEP ON, IN CAVE. WORK NO TROUBLE – WELL OVER MONTHLY RAPE TARGETS. SO STEVE SMITH APPRECIATE FUNNY GLIBERTARIAN PEOPLE GIVE IDEAS HOW STEVE SMITH GET SLEEP. BEING AWAKE SO MUCH GIVE STEVE SMITH TIME TO GIVE FUNNY GLIBERTARIAN PEOPLE LINKS…SO THAT GOOD.

  1. THIS NOT WHAT STEVE SMITH CONSIDER WORTHY PROTEST…BUT DOES GIVE STEVE SMITH GOOD LAUGH.
  2. THIS ALSO NOT WAY TO PROTEST. YOU MAKE SELVES LOOK WORSE THAN SILLY AD.
  3. CELEBRITY PEOPLE THEY WANT IN THREESOMES? STEVE SMITH GO MORE FOR EIGHTSOMES. SOMETIMES NINESOMES. DEPENDS HOW MANY PEOPLE IN CABIN OR RV.
  4. COUSIN SEA SMITH SEND FILM CLIP OF MAJESTIC SEA FLAP FLAP GET AWAY FROM SHARK.

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372 responses to “STEVE SMITH SATURDAY EVENING LINKS”

  1. Heroic Mulatto

    Are you religious?
    I’d like to introduce you to my religion.

    1. DEG

      I’m not religious, but I am intrigued.

    2. DOOMco

      ok, she can show me da whey anywhere

    3. Number.6

      See, here’s the thing with these pictures you’re posting, HM.

      She’s very appealing because of her smooth (admittedly cosmetically improved) complexion, which is one of my ‘things’, but the whole cosplay/maturity thing is weirding me out and it compromises the whole fappability of the artistic statement …

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Well aren’t you a delicate little princess with your fapping issues?

        In my day we jerked it to the indian gal on land o lakes butter wrappers. And we were grateful for that!

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Aunt Jemimah, +1 Thicc!

        2. AlexinCT

          Guess you didn’t get any National Georgraphics..

          1. KSuellington

            +1 well worn Women of Namibia issue

          2. J. Frank Parnell

            Sears catalog underwear section or gtfo.

          3. Rhywun

            “My mother had a Glamour magazine, I started leafing through it…”

        3. C. Anacreon

          In my day we jerked it to the indian gal on land o lakes butter wrappers. And we were grateful for that!

          Did you used to do the little folding trick with the Land O’ Lakes label where you made the Indian lady topless?

        4. gbob

          In my day it was a stack of weather beaten porn mags in a clubhouse we built in the woods.

      2. westernsloper

        It has to be a doll. Maybe.

      3. Heroic Mulatto

        You do not kno de wai.

        1. Tres Cool

          Whey makes you a Japanese woman?

          1. Gordilocks

            Now I want to hear Andrew Dice Clay in Pidgin.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            And see his new movie, The Adventures of Ford Fairlady Z.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            Where is de queen?

    4. quincy

      My cat has the same nose.

      1. MikeS

        But does it have the same tits? Well, smart guy?

        1. quincy

          If he had those tits, how could he walk?

          1. AlmightyJB

            Especially with you bangin’ it.

      2. Rhywun

        I thought the nose was some sort of peripheral interface.

        1. quincy

          Peripheral in-her-face! Hah!

    5. RBS

      I can be.

  2. DEG

    CELEBRITY PEOPLE THEY WANT IN THREESOMES? STEVE SMITH GO MORE FOR EIGHTSOMES. SOMETIMES NINESOMES. DEPENDS HOW MANY PEOPLE IN CABIN OR RV.

    I thought STEVE SMITH would be more the orgy type.

    1. Rhywun

      BUT STEVE SMITH HAPPY MAKE LIST ANYWAY

    2. Gordilocks

      DEG AND STEVE SMITH GO TO BURNING MAN.

      And by go to Burning Man, mean ….

      1. AlexinCT

        Mean whut?

        1. Gordilocks

          STEVE SMITH blends in with furries and many costumed people, and no one suspects anything untoward.

      2. DEG

        I have no interest in Burning Man.

        1. Gordilocks

          It’s not for everyone.

          I’ve been six times, absolutely love it. And I’ve never even been to Orgy Dome.

      3. J. Frank Parnell

        ‘If you ask if you can play with a couple, you’d still need to ask, “Can I touch your breasts?” “Can I go down on you?” “Can I f**k you both in the butt?”

        Well that escalated quickly.

  3. DEG

    The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) protesters targeted six H&M stores in the Gauteng province, where South Africa’s economic hub of Johannesburg is located, tearing down shop displays and throwing clothes around, police said.

    EFF was covered in a Reason TV video. They appear near the end of the video. Note the EFF guy’s opinion of Zimbabwe.

    1. Some folks from SA are saying EFF is a police-affiliated group (unless I read their message wrong).

      1. DEG

        Ouch. That will turn out like the military veterans in Zimbabwe.

          1. Doh…I completely missed her follow on post after that ;p

            https://twitter.com/Miss_Sashi/status/952201733165461504

            Ugh that was meant to be “Political party” not “Police party” ?‍♀️

          2. RBS

            “Police party”

            Christ, what a shithole.

          3. Tres Cool

            HEY! Didn’t I already……oh, nevermind

          4. Don’t worry, Très, nobody reads the comments either.

  4. MikeS

    STEVE; I suggest drinking whisky to help you fall asleep. But be careful. Too much and you might have trouble er…performing during rape.

  5. DEG

    Despite not being religious, I am enjoying a Sweet Baby Jesus!.

    1. mikey

      Isn’t that fed guy who had to approve all beer names and labels still on the job? If so, it seems he’s eased up a bit.

      1. DEG

        He retired but there is a replacement.

        1. mikey

          A lot of Stockholm Syndrome in that article

    2. westernsloper

      Chocolate peanut butter porter? I was not interested in the porters but you guys opened my horizons and that sounds good.

      1. MikeS

        There’s a few out there. Empyrean Long Route is good.

        Dangerous Man Brewing makes the best one that I’ve had. But you’ll need to go to Minneapolis to get some

        1. DEG

          Those look good. Another one I like.

    3. juris imprudent

      I used to be able to swing by there after work, but they moved the brewery from Bel Air down towards Baltimore. SBJ is tasty, especially the nitro pour; there other stuff is good too.

  6. Pope Jimbo

    It is supposed to snow here tomorrow. I am so jealous of St. Paul right now.

    Their new mayor has made them one of the most woke cities in Minnesoda.

    The new mayor of St. Paul said he’s told all of his department heads to use equity as a lens as they deliver basic services. That includes plowing snow, filling pot holes, or even picking up trash — especially in areas where people feel neglected by the city.

    Our straight up racist suburb will probably just go around plowing the big critical roads first without paying any attention at all to who is feeling neglected.

    1. MikeS

      “I was talking to a group of young people once and I was asking them about college and there was a bunch of litter on the block that we were standing on,” Carter said. “And this group of young people said, ‘College? Look around you. We live in a trash can. Why would we think about college?’”

      Wait, who’s fault is it that the neighborhood is full of litter?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        It is a mixed bag. On one hand, all that litter is from me and Tundra driving over there every week to dump our garbage there. The plus side is that we car pool to help save Mother Earth.

        1. Left Hand of Radar

          Do you two bastards fling trash and dog shit all over my neighborhood, too?

          1. Pope Jimbo

            You thought that shit was from a dog?

            Hah! That was personal commentary on your life choices from Tundra.

          2. Left Hand of Radar

            Thanks.

          3. Pope Jimbo

            De nada.

            Maybe now you will move out to the suburbs like a decent Minnesodan.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            Christ, what a shithole.

      2. Trump’s faulr, of course.

    2. juris imprudent

      How’s that Justine Damond case coming?

      1. Tres Cool

        I read that as “Dustin Diamond”. I think Ive had too much too drink.

  7. westernsloper

    RE the celebrity threesome link. I see Jessica Alba is at the bottom of the list. Disgraceful. Her ass in Into the Blue, was, is, and will always be the most perfect ass on the planet.

    1. You haven’t seen my ass.

      1. westernsloper

        How do you know that?

    2. deepspeed

      When she was in Dark Angel, 16 year-old me was obsessed.

      1. Tres Cool

        +100 Dark Angel

    3. Mad Scientist

      How anyone would prefer to sleep with Jennifer Aniston over Jessica Alba is a mystery.

      1. MikeS

        Then call me Mysterio

      2. Chipping Pioneer

        Not disagreeing,but the older that Jennifer Aniston gets, the hotter she gets.

        1. westernsloper

          This is true. Just because I am about her age and most women our age do not look like her. She has aged beyond well. I think she drinks baby blood or something weird which just makes her hotter.

          1. Number.6

            The man-jaw has become less prominent, and she’s aged into her ‘style’. She always seemed older than her real age in the shows she used to do.

            Her age catching up with her personality has helped a lot.

        2. Don’t stick it in crazy.

        3. Drake

          I shall respectfully disagree. I liked her better 20 years ago – now I just see cosmetics and surgery.

      3. DEG

        You pick both.

    4. Mad Scientist

      How in the hell is Gal Gadot not on that list!?

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        The Brits are antisemites.

        Obviously.

      2. RBS

        Weird knees.

        1. Gordilocks

          Weird fetish.

          NTTIAWWT

  8. Pope Jimbo

    I posted this OT in the board games post just before this one was posted. Putting it here too just to get some of you riled up.

    Another example of the difference between city folks and country folks.

    There was a wolf/car accident in sort of southish Alexandria, Minnesoda. Well beyond what the traditional range of the “endangered” wolf is. Trooper shows up and takes pic because it is unusual. Posts pics to FB. Hilarity ensues

    The photos, one of which shows Kavanagh holding up the wolf and the other shows Berle kneeling down by the animal holding its head up, ended up on Facebook and caused some controversy because the deputies were smiling.

    Thank doG they didn’t post any of the “outrage”, just the poor guy trying to explain himself.

    1. MikeS

      My G-d. How many times must I read this?!

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Was it posted more than in the last post? I admitted to that double posting.

        I haven’t been keeping up as diligently as I should lately. I’ve been testing the waters to see if I should convert my amateur status into professional on the Pro Drinkers Circuit.

        1. MikeS

          Just jerkin your chain. I’ve only seen it twice. Twice posted by you, is what I was getting at.

  9. westernsloper

    They also demanded compensation for a death sentence issued against one of their cousins, convicted of murder and executed in 2016, attorney general Saud al-Mojeb said.

    Now we are talking some privileged thinking.

    1. Suthenboy

      It’s barely been two generations since they were sleeping in tents and riding camels and killing each other over food and water. I have been predicting that it will take less than two for them to go back to that after the oil money runs out.

      1. Gordilocks

        killing each other over food and water

        oil money runs out

        Hey, while the times were good, they bought plenty of death machinery from Team America, World Police. The killing each other part will make for some epic fireworks.

      2. westernsloper

        The measures have been linked to rising tension within the royal Al-Saud family which counts thousands of members only a handful of whom wield direct influence over the kingdom.

        There will be thousands of spoiled rich kids fighting going back to nomadic life. Saudi could get very ugly over the next few years if oil stays where it’s at.

  10. Pope Jimbo

    If AlmightyJB is still reading this and has not moved on to Naked Twister, I thought I’d clue him in on the right way to drink Bloody Mary’s.

    Make sure to always have a snit (aka beer chaser) with each Bloody.

    Here in Minnesota, no brunch spread is complete without a small glass of beer nestled next to your Bloody Mary. Also called a snit, on some mornings it’s the scrappy little sidekick aiding your hulking, tomato-based hero in fighting off last night’s hangover. Others, it’s the cheeky first mate, steering you with a wink toward a day-drinking afternoon while the captain’s back is turned. It is, objectively, a very good idea.

    I didn’t realize it was called a snit, but I have been outraged when I have not gotten the snit when drinking out in the hinterlands.

    1. Left Hand of Radar

      If by “Hinterlands” you mean the rest of the world, well I’ve got news for you: You also probably didn’t get a pickle in you Bloody Mary. One of the first things that freaked me out in MN was the pickle instead of celery stalk. I still think it’s weird as hell.

      1. westernsloper

        Pickled asparagus/green bean or GTFO.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Ole Piper Inn has both of those. Also a shit ton of olives, pepperoni, cheese, horseradish, garlic (did I mention how sexy I am to my wife when I return home from a morning there?) and about 20 mixes.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Have you been to Ole Piper Inn?

        Great Bloody bar. Now that you mention it, with all the olives, shrimp and other stuff to put in your drink, I don’t think that I recall any celery.

        We should do a Minnesoda Glib meetup there some day.

    2. westernsloper

      That sounds like right proper tradition.

      Others, it’s the cheeky first mate, steering you with a wink toward a day-drinking afternoon while the captain’s back is turned.

      That is alcoholic poetry there. I got a bit misty eyed.

    3. Rhywun

      I’m drinking a Bloody Mary right now. This “day drinking” thing I’ve heard is associated with it is a complete mystery to me. People tell me that in order to successfully day-drink you have to spread them out but I swear everything I drink in a day is cumulative.

    4. AlmightyJB

      I did not do the “snit” with my Bloody Marys this evening but maintained a decent buzz throughout the evening regardless. I’ll keep that in mind for next time:)

      1. Pope Jimbo

        One of the worst hangovers ever was in the Marines when we ran out of Bloody Mary mix and just started drinking vodka and ketchup. The headache wasn’t so bad, but any burp the next morning was an automatic puke session.

  11. Juvenile Bluster

    HELL FUCK YEAH EAGLES

    1. juris imprudent

      Close shave. Here’s hoping Marriota shows Brady that it really is a young man’s game.

      1. Drake

        He showed him.

    2. straffinrun

      A little lucky they didn’t call pass interference on that 4th down.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        The Eagles get nothing but heartache calls against them. I’ll take this ‘lucky’ call. They earned it.

        1. straffinrun

          Deserved or not, I dunno. Non calls in that situation are usually the way to go.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Someone has been watching NHL hockey.

            /Puts whistle away in pocket.

          2. +1 Devils fan.

        2. westernsloper

          Oh horse shit. Eagles V Broncos this season was packed with gifts for the eagles.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Well. to make up for the Panthers game!

            It all evens out they say in the end.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      Fucken right. Foles finally got it going in the 3rd QT. And the defense was tremendous.

      This Eagles team is better than what the pundits thought.

      1. creech

        Who’d thunk. QB rating of 100.1! Yet, as a long time Eagles fan, I have to be pessimistic they can survive next week.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Yeh, you have to figure 15 ain’t gonna cut it against a team like the Saints. Maybe the Vikings but still formidable.

  12. DEG

    Why are power windows allowed?

    It’s surprising the government hasn’t made power seats – and windows – illegal. Well, at least not yet. After all, they are arguably at least as “unsafe” as not wearing a seat belt.

    Maybe it will occur to someone. Give it time.

    The argument for requiring the use of seat belts is that you might be thrown about or even ejected from the vehicle in the event of a crash. But you might also drive off the road, into a pond. It’s certainly possible. And if your car has power windows, you will be trapped inside because power windows don’t work under water.

    1. Suthenboy

      Neither will manual windows. You need one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Tools-Life-Seatbelt-Breaker-Emergency/dp/B00CB8WM2S?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00CB8WM2S

      Also, pushing a windshield out with your legs is relatively easy…unless the car is submerged. Then it is damned impossible. Get the tool. It’s five bucks.

      1. whiz

        We’ve got one on those in every vehicle.

    2. Mad Scientist

      power windows don’t work under water

      Uh huh.

    3. DOOMco

      you wait till the car fills with water so the pressure is equal. then you open the door.

      1. straffinrun

        I thought you waited until Teddy came back.

        1. Gordilocks

          Zing!

          1. Tres Cool

            Oh, I may as well. You were all thinking it anyhow:

            http://wwwcdn.printmag.com/wp-content/uploads/vw.jpg

          2. DEG

            That is world class.

          3. Tres Cool

            “And, like Mary Jo Kopechne, its only 99 44/100 pure…”

            Thats gold.

      2. J. Frank Parnell

        As long as you have some empty beer bottles you’ll be fine.

        1. Festus

          Fun fact – All of the brewery sequences were filmed in my hometown independent! “Double Jeopardy” used the decommissioned jail and a cut-rate trucker motel that we stayed in while our house was being built.

    4. Gordilocks

      After all, they are arguably at least as “unsafe” as not wearing a seat belt.

      One of my best buddies, a Kiwi logging truck driver, survived crashing his 85,000kg truck at the bottom of a volcano because he *wasn’t* wearing his seatbelt.

      Fuck Off, Slavers

      1. Suthenboy

        I dated an EMT for a while. Everytime that ad with the troopers claiming they have never unbuckled a dead person would come on she would rant and rave “Of course you haven’t. You wont render aid of any kind. I unbuckle them!”

        She wasn’t a big lover of the cops.

        1. Gordilocks

          In those situations where ‘unbuckling a dead person’ would occur, there usually isn’t much of a body left over to unbuckle.

          Had my buddy Nigel not been able to escape, he would have burnt up with the truck when it finally came to a stop and caught on fire.

          I’ve never worn a seat belt in 20 years of trucking. First off, the state can eat a bag of dicks, and secondly, if I’m involved in a collision with another vehicle, most likely I am going to win.

          I wear seat belts in my personal vehicle, most of the time, but only to keep the road pirates from making me poor.

          1. Suthenboy

            It isnt uncommon for people to hydroplane off of the road during heavy rain, go into a ditch that is full of water and flip the car. That is a very dangerous situation. You are hanging upside down making the seatbelt difficult to unbuckle and your head is underwater.

            About ten years ago I came upon that exact scenario. Fortunately The local college fencing team arrived simultaneously. Unfortunately we had not arrived in time.

            You are correct. Sometimes seat belts kill.

          2. Tres Cool

            Just a few months ago, I was involved in this mess when someone (suspended license, uninsured, wasnt her car) ran a light.
            Im pretty happy with air-bags/belts, tho I get Gordi’s argument for physics.

            https://postimg.org/image/6cjyiw4in/

          3. I see your fuzzy dice survived the crash.

          4. Gordilocks

            Tabarnak. Glad you got out ok. Looks like it was a nice car, too. 🙁

          5. DEG

            Ouch. No injuries?

          6. Tres Cool

            I was the passenger, so I cant claim the dice. It was 40-45 mph through an intersection, and the other driver blew directly through the light at likely the same speed. The challenger struck her Impala at around a 30º angle just inches forward for the driver’s door hinge. Me and the driver walked out, as did the other driver and her passenger, however she was un-belted, and had a serious grip on the steering wheel- it was quite literally twisted pretzel-like.

          7. Old Man With Candy

            Fuzzy dice and bongos, fuzzy dice
            I get ’em at the Pep Boys, at the boyyyyys
            Brodie knobs and spinners, Brodie knobs
            chromium plated

          8. l0b0t

            Did somebody say Pep Boys?

          9. SandMan

            College fencing team, in La.?

          10. Gustave Lytton

            I’m thinking guys who compete in putting up barbed wire. Or the 100 meter dogeared cedar.

          11. Suthenboy

            I was on the college archery team for a while. Started to taking the fencing classes but thought it was pointless.

          12. Number.6

            HA HA!

            Epee, I hope.

          13. Gordilocks

            Epee?

            What ever happened to Episiarch? Did he make it over here? Different handle? Between the Woodchipper Crisis and then The Exodus, I’m not sure who some folks were/are.

          14. Gustave Lytton

            He never made it here as far as I know. He disappeared from TSTSNBN before that I think. Along with nicole and some others. Sock purge?

          15. Suthenboy

            Ouch Tres!

            Glad you are ok. Yes, seat belts save too. A car accident is like terminal ballistics. Very strange and unpredictable things happen. Buckle? Unbuckle? who knows what will happen? Adults should be able to make that choice without being held up by highwaymen.

          16. Tres Cool

            I concur. Ive been in some bad accidents, I think restraints work, and I choose to use them. Same as wearing a helmet on my bike. But its my decision. Now, Id support a valid argument about paying/not paying for injuries to someone that had that device available, but made the choice to not use it, but that exceeds the scope of “my choice”.

          17. Number.6

            I had a head-on collision with a Ford Taurus once (I was in a 1980’s VW Golf) and I guess our relative velocity at impact was about 70mph.

            I wasn’t wearing a seat belt and I walked away from it with a bruised shin and wrist. A seat belt wouldn’t have helped, but it wouldn’t have hindered either. The other guy, also not wearing a seat belt, ended up in casualty for a week and a half.

          18. Tres Cool

            I was in a doozy of a wreck when I was a senior in high school, and my idiot friend was showing-off, lost control, went off the road, and put us head-first into the mighty oak at around 60 mph. Neither of us were belted, and despite walking away with only a chipped back tooth, we were fine. Then age happened. Now I have all sorts of neck-related goofiness going on.

          19. Number.6

            The telling point was that the crumple zone of the VW was afore the firewall. On the Taurus, it was abaft the firewall.

            One of the reasons I have (until recently) had a preference for VW/Audi products.

          20. Tres Cool

            One of the funnest (to drive) I ever owned was an ’84 Jetta GTI.
            When it ran like it was supposed to (Bosch K-Jetronic) it was a blast. Sadly, that was infrequent.

          21. Not an Economist

            Shortly before Christmas my niece lost control of her car during heavy rain and ended up being t-boned on the passenger side. Technically she didn’t walk away as she was taken to the hospital as a precaution but she was home within a few hours. The accident compromised the passenger compartment. If the other car had her car on the driver side, she would probably still be in the hospital if she survived.

            She was sore for a few days. I thank any and every god for the engineers who designed the structure of her car.

    5. westernsloper

      Who is it that we have to thank for seat belts laws? He ran for president. Who was that asshole? I am drawing a blank.

      1. Gordilocks

        Ralph Nader.

        1. westernsloper

          Ya that is the fucker. Thanks.

  13. Mad Scientist

    Let’s have some L7.

    1. Gordilocks

      Awwww yeah ….. Aaaaaaannnnnndre!

      1. Festus

        My buddy had a “Smell The Magic!” t-shirt back in 1995. I so wanted that concert T.

    2. Chafed

      What happened to them?

  14. Gordilocks

    A short piece on Oregon relaxing the rules on pumping your own gas in certain parts of the state.

    The author makes a great point about occupational licensing.

    Most of the rest of the America–where people pump their own gas everyday without a second thought–is having a good laugh at Oregon’s expense. But I am not here to laugh because in every state but one where you can pump your own gas you can’t open a barbershop without a license. A license to cut hair! Ridiculous. I hope people in Alabama are laughing at the rest of America. Or how about a license to be a manicurist? Go ahead Connecticut, laugh at the other states while you get your nails done.

    1. Suthenboy

      That shit has been going on forever, probably back to the stone age. Someone around here, I dont remember who, explained why gun barrels are called barrels recently. The knowledge of how to make things was kept secret by the trade guilds that made them so that those guilds would have monopolies. Government protected monopolies of course, bought and paid for. When the military guys figured out they needed a long tube to shove rocks and black powder into they had no idea how to make one so they went to the cooper’s guild: guys who made buckets and barrels. Thus the tubes were called barrels.

      Imagine the nightmare of living back in the good ol’ days: You not only have no idea how to make all of the things that you need to live but if you try you would be jailed, tortured or killed. You had to pay a specialist for everything you and your family need. No wonder it took technology so long to take off. Humanity was actively stifling technological innovation since the beginning of time.

      A little perspective there helps me realize that despite all that is wrong, and it’s a lot, I am damned lucky to be alive in this place and time.

      3d printers are going to be as revolutionary as computers.

      1. Gordilocks

        You had to pay a specialist for everything you and your family need.

        This is still the case for many things.

      2. Tulip

        Absolutely. I laugh at anyone that pines for the good old days. We live in the best time for many reasons. I would however, love to live in the future.

  15. Number.6

    Alrighty. Out of desperation for something to dine upon, I (and my two underage wing men) discovered The Daily Refresher in Rochester. While it was full of manbuns, perfectly coiffed hipster beards and chock full of IPAs in cans, the mixologist made a pretty damn good Sazerac and didn’t try and fob me off with bourbon, which earns him major brownie points.

    The sandwiches weren’t bad, either.

    So I am in a better mood than I was at 6.30 Eastern.

    1. Gordilocks

      Are you in Rochester NY or that other one in Minnesota?

      1. Number.6

        NY. Just until tomorrow early afternoon.

        1. Gordilocks

          Bugger. Only 2 hours from me.

          1. Number.6

            I have to be up at 5AM anyway. Next leg of this infernal volleyball tournament starts at 7.30, and then it’s back on the road back to Gotham at about 4PM

    2. Suthenboy

      Man-buns are still a…(gag)…thing? What’s next? Codpieces?

        1. Rhywun

          Those have been a thing in certain circles forever.

        2. Number.6

          I used to just slip a 16oz guinness can down my boxers.

          Used to call it a “wee charisma transplant“.

        1. Mad Scientist

          Men’s Compact Bag Style G-strings & Thongs

          I mean, if you say so….

          1. Rhywun

            LOL Amazon will sell anything

          2. DEG

            I remember reading an interview with Bezos where he said he didn’t want Amazon to sell guns because there are enough places to buy them. I see they now sell Airsoft guns.

          3. Number.6

            Screw that – airsoft?

            You can buy 22 cal air rifles on Amazon now. I have a .177 cal BB version of a 92FS on order for practice, and it’s coming via Amazon Prime, so it’s not just an affiliate marketing arrangement.

            Jeff abandoned those principles a long time ago.

          4. DEG

            Jeff abandoned those principles a long time ago.

            The filthy lucre will do that to you.

      1. Number.6

        Oh, this place was ridiculously hipster-y. Possibly a bit sexually confused too, NTTAWWT.

    3. Rhywun

      Oh god, I didn’t know you were actually there. My condolences. I have tried to blot out those 18 years.

      1. Number.6

        I’m sure it’s an acquired taste, but I don’t think I’m cut out for Rochester, TBH.

        1. Rhywun

          I mostly kid. There are a lot of things to like and I guess it didn’t mess me up too much. But yeah, it wasn’t for me either. Almost all of the rest of my family is still there.

    4. Gordilocks

      Speaking of Rochester and other things Empire State, how about we get the ball rolling for a NY Glibs meetup?

      1. gbob

        I’ll bring more whiskey and bourbon then even a Gilbfull of beans can drink.

        Actually, if we do Uitica, in the middle and full of trains east and west, I’ll offer my distillery as the meeting place. Across the way is a bar that still allows smoking!

        1. Number.6

          Maybe in spring. Like, when maybe it’s not like a FUCKING ICE BOX!

        2. quincy

          Can I come?

          1. straffinrun

            Sure. Just pull out first.

          2. quincy

            Ah, man. Given the amount of bourbon, my timing might be off.

        3. Number.6

          Especially if I get RIF’ed in Feb, I’d be up for a road trip. I’d have seating for 3 more.

        4. Gordilocks

          Glib meet up in Utica at a Distillery? Sounds fantastic.

          Do you offer Utica Club as chaser?

          1. Rhywun

            Aren’t a lot of beers made in Utica? I seem to remember them being a sort of back-office brewer for a lot of famous brands.

          2. Gordilocks

            Not sure about Utica, but most of Saranac’s own beers give me acid reflux for some reason.

          3. Number.6

            Well, ‘Utica’ does sound like something you might cure with some pepto-B and a course of antibiotics.

          4. Rhywun

            I had a nasty case of Skaneateles once.

          5. Gordilocks

            Some here prefer the Thicceatles, Rhywun. They are a strange bunch.

          6. Rhywun

            Heh.

            Huh:

            Matt Brewery brews beer for other brands on contract. While Matt’s connection with Brooklyn Brewery and Pete’s Brewing Company are well known, the company will not disclose any of its clients or how much beer it brews for competitors.

            I’d heard of Saranac but just assumed it was associated with Saranac Lake.

    5. westernsloper

      I had to search what a Sazerac was and one with rendered duck fat came up. That is a bit over the top imho. So is absinthe or rye the right way?

      1. Number.6

        Both. But the issue is the rye. For some bizarre reason, I’ve been to cocktail bars with good reputations, and on a number of occasions, the mixologist has cracked a bottle of bourbon open. Maybe it’s a New York thing.

        I’ve never had one with duck fat, either.

    1. Number.6

      You do realize that even that factory does not know the full story of how to makes its pencils. Only Milton Friedman does. Or did.

      1. straffinrun

        I tried explaining the calculation problem to a coworker over drinks last night. It’s not that complicated, but he just couldn’t understand why we can’t just set price controls for the “important” things.

      2. Raven Nation

        Friedman? Or Leonard Read?

        1. Number.6

          It was Reid, but Friedman cited it in “Free to Choose” so it got plenty of publicity.

          1. Raven Nation

            Ah, thanks.

    2. Rhywun

      Dang, I work near there. That’s old school.

  16. straffinrun

    The Missileers: Air Force has trained 247 women for nuclear launch

    “As first reported by Marie Claire, there are enough women in this life-or-death job that there has been at least one all-female shift at one of the launch emplacements.”

    I’ll be in bunker.

    1. Rhywun

      Another career that wasn’t interesting until women started doing it.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      I hope the AF keeps them out of the silos when their special friend comes to visit.

      1. Number.6

        If they’re all in common barracks, they’ll synchronize within about 6 months.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Come to think of it, why wouldn’t there be all female shifts? There’s only two people in there for 24 hours. Mixed sex shifts and no fucking going on? I would be surprised. Or allegations of harassment?

        1. Tres Cool

          So by that logic, with same-sex shifts, there’s no fuckin going on?
          Ninja, please.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Oh no, wouldn’t say that, particularly with all women shifts.

          2. Tres Cool

            I may be in my bunk…..

    3. Gordilocks

      The Progs must be ecstatic – they get their bloodlust and their identity politics satiated in one hit.

      1. Number.6

        Finally, a career to suit Anita Sarkeesian’s temperament!

    4. J. Frank Parnell

      Critics have worried about the potential for nuclear conflict during the Trump administration, concerned the president could use his nuclear trigger finger as freely as his Twitter finger.

      Oh shut the fuck up already.

      1. straffinrun

        FFS JFK, JFC.

  17. Tulip

    I am going to try online dating this year. I am finally recovered from a very bad break up. Any advice?

    1. Number.6

      I hate to have to ask, but what gender are you?

      1. westernsloper

        Oh shit, I assumed gender. Now I feel bad.

        1. straffinrun

          Tulip. Unless it’s a prison nickname, I’d have assumed gal.

          1. J. Frank Parnell

            So westernsloper’s advice is pretty good, then.

          2. westernsloper

            Oh sure, point out the obvious. I thought Tulips name was a riff on Tulpa.

          3. straffinrun

            Maybe it’s a play on “Two lips”. I admit that might be a stretch, though.

          4. westernsloper

            Well, it Two Lips is a stretch, there are two holes in your argument one of which is butt two inches away.

          5. Tulip

            Sigh, I just like tulips. Smdh

      2. Number.6

        If the answer is “Attack Helicopter” or “Yellow Dragonkin”, I got nuthin’.

    2. westernsloper

      I suggest a profile pic holding a beer while wearing a wife beater and a thong. I have had great success with that angle as it keeps the serious looking for a life mate/partner from replying.

    3. Tres Cool

      Start with me!
      “This time, why not the worst!”

    4. Number.6

      Same advice really regardless of your gender.

      1. Don’t look desperate and in need of someone else’s care and attention
      2. Don’t be scared to say “No way, Jose”
      3. Don’t anticipate “How it’s gonna be when I meet the right one”
      4. No matter which platform you use, most of the other people on there aren’t telling the truth about themselves, even if the lying is benign.

    5. Raven Nation

      I used e-Harmony. It’s more than just a quick profile. They control who you get matched with (pros & cons). It’s not always perfect but I think better than many others. If you do go that route: think about how you set geographical parameters.

      We’ve been married ’bout 18 months and it seems to be working.

      1. Number.6

        Thumbs down on PoF then? I haz a sad.

        1. Raven Nation

          OK, I know I’m going to be embarrassed for asking this but, PoF?

          1. Number.6

            Plenty of Fish. The internet dating analog of the Mos Eisley Cantina.

          2. Raven Nation

            Thanks,

          3. Grumbletarian

            Plenty of Fish

      2. Rhywun

        I tried match.com like a thousand years ago. Was a complete waste of time.

        I don’t know if there’s an eHarmony-like thing for the gays but I’m at a stage where I kind of enjoy being single so *shrug*.

        1. Tres Cool

          “THE” gays just made me shoot beer UP my nose.

      3. westernsloper

        My last real girlfriend I met on e-Harmony. She was and is awesome. It ended when she wanted to get married. I am not good at that. Up until that point it was nothing but fun. It was a good algorithmic personality match by my experience.

      4. Cats

        Dead thread, but same situation for me (almost down to the number of months married.)

        Don’t waste your time on unpaid sites, and cast a very wide net. It doesn’t cost anything except a few minutes to talk to as many people as you possibly can, and you’ll get a lot of no-responses as well.

        I dated two women somewhat seriously for a few months each before I met my wife. But I was the first and only person she ever talked to on there… We joke that I had to pay much more to find her than she did me.

    6. Tres Cool

      Try my (yes, this makes me a published author) Best-Of-CL ad template:

      https://www.craigslist.org/about/best/day/1264084302.html

      1. Chafed

        That is brilliant.

  18. Drake

    The Pats are starting to pour it on.

    1. AlmightyJB

      🙁

  19. AlmightyJB

    I think my threesome chick choose right now would be Sarah Hyland, not because I think she’s the hottest chick around, but because she looks like my ex-boss who I totally want to bang.

    1. Number.6

      Your ex-Boss looks like a 6 year old kewpie doll? Where the fuck do I sign up?

      1. Number.6

        uhhhh … I meant *16*

        1. Rhywun

          Nice save

        2. Gordilocks

          Just had a look.

          16? At best.

          Nevermind that, she’s really …. I dunno. Not my cup of tea.

          1. Rhywun

            Yeah – gah. “Kewpie doll” nails it.

          2. Number.6

            Her wiki article really doesn’t do her what justice she deserves. Again, many of her public appearances owe more to the skill of whoever does her makeup than to her natural look.

      2. AlmightyJB

        My ex-boss is totally bangable. Shes in her 40s. Hyland is a young close approximation which is what I was getting at.

        1. Gordilocks

          I had an on-again, off-again fling with my real-estate agent for a couple of years. It started when I was 27 and she was 44.

          Ahh, sweet memories.

          1. Number.6

            You can play some damn good tunes on an old piano.

            – Me

          2. Gordilocks

            You can play some damn good tunes have some real good times on an old piano with an older woman with enhanced mammaries.

          1. AlmightyJB

            That was supposed to say add 20 years

    2. straffinrun

      She’s the one in SJW doghouse right now?

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yes, evidently she likes to have fun which is literally genocide.

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a563184e4b03417e8741869/amp

        1. Rhywun

          OK I like her now.

          1. AlmightyJB

            How could you not:)

          2. Rhywun

            Well, I like men and I don’t watch anything she might have been in so there wasn’t a lot to go on until now.

          3. AlmightyJB

            Word

        2. Number.6

          It really is a shame she doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to tell them all to FOAD in a fire.

        3. CPRM

          eh, I’d do the other daughter on her show.

          1. Number.6

            there you go, creating a false dichotomy again …

          2. CPRM

            Again? When before have I dichotomised falsely?

          3. Number.6

            Why not both daughters?

  20. Gustave Lytton

    T Swizzle in a threesome? Might as well cut off your balls and throw them in a jar of pickling fluid.

    1. Tres Cool

      +1 qt formalin

  21. Raven Nation

    Just in from the NHL:

    “Canadiens center Phillip Danault was stretchered off the ice after he was hit in the head by a slap shot from Boston Bruins defenseman Zdeno Chara.”

    1. DOOMco

      it looked bad.

      1. Festus

        Chara played for my hometown Junior team. Even at 18 he was a beast. I’m surprised that some of his slap-shots didn’t go right through the end boards. Poor Kid…

  22. hayeksplosives

    It’s official: the reason this H3N2 flu is kicking my ass is because i also have pneumonia, proven by xray and culture. On go the I.V. bags of antibiotics.

    At least we have a clear cause and a plan.

    Makes me an easy target for STEVE SMITH, but he’d regret it a few days later.

    1. Gordilocks

      The Flu and Pneumonia? What *have* you been up to, young lady? 😉

      1. hayeksplosives

        What haven’t I? too much work travel almost back-to-back for weeks with too little rest and through too many airports. Too many handshakes.

        1. Gordilocks

          Get well soon, and switch to fistbumps, the favourite of President BHO!

          1. RoadSplosives

            Thanks for making fist bumps icky.

    2. Number.6

      So, stuck in the hospital for a few days.

      Bon chance, mon amie. Get well soon.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Thanks. i have never felt so tired.

        1. Number.6

          Oh, you can blame that on hanging out with us so much.

        2. Tres Cool

          Airplanes…..city buses with less air turnover.
          Hospitals suck ass, but you’re in the best place.

          1. Rhywun

            I’ve never been happier that I rarely travel for work.

            Unfortunately I do ride the NYC subway every day but I try to keep my hands to myself. Plus I wash my hands like a dozen times a day – thanks, Mom!

          2. Gilmore

            *i’ve never gotten any serious illness since 2005 or so, and i often think it was simply “living in NYC” and keeping my immune system active as fuck that kept me healthy

            basically, the opposite of the “purell yourself at every opportunity” mindset. more the “i’m helping my white blood cells exercise”. don’t worry-about-it attitude.

            its not like i was licking turnstiles, but i’m just saying, i lived in the NYC area for about 2 decades, and never got any kind of contagious sickness at all. ever. the one time i got sick it was a weird, obscure, parasitic thing from something i ate.

            anyhoos. still, can’t hurt to wash your hands.

          3. Tulip

            The one winter I took public transportation, I was constantly sick despite 1) taking care not to touch anything in the cars, and 2) constantly washing my hands.

          4. Rhywun

            Hm, you raise some interesting points.

            I am far from one of those weirdos you see who wear a face-mask or won’t touch anything without a cloth in their hand, for example. I have that “don’t-worry-about-it” attitude. I do get maybe one cold a year, nothing serious.

            At the same time I practice good hygiene, I guess. And yeah, I don’t get that Purell madness.

          5. CPRM

            My dad bragged he never got sick. Turns out he had an autoimmune disease that crippled him. Not everything is as it seems. My grandparents were butchers. You know what their 9 kids ate? The old meat that didn’t sell. All 9 are still alive. My dad that never got sick, until he was crippled; he lived through getting hit by a train, a jet fighter explosion and a dozen other things that should have killed him, and smoked for 40 years. He died from a urinary tract infection. You never know what is going to get you.

    3. DEG

      Sorry. Get well soon!

    4. Rhywun

      Dayum. Get better.

    5. westernsloper

      Be well. I thought I had the flu yesterday morning but it turns out I should not have eaten that leftover chili the day before.

      1. Tres Cool

        I worried the salad I had was laden with listeria. Turns out, mine was just more brown-bottle flu.

    6. straffinrun

      Did you get the flu shot? Rest up. The fight isn’t over.

      1. Tres Cool

        I did. Sadly, it arrived in a 750ml dose.
        Ill report in as soon as possible.

      2. RoadSplosives

        I did. The night nurse said it’s ten percent effective this year.

        1. Festus

          I went for ten years without any flus or colds and suddenly since November it’s been a revolving door of maladies. Feel better, Splosives!

  23. Gilmore

    Boogaloo Joe Jones: Black Whip

    (what i’m listening to on yet another weekend i’m working)

    1. mikey

      Gracias. Some nice mellow stuff there.

      1. Gilmore

        Wasn’t really going for “mellow”. Joe Jones was more on the funky/party side of things

        if i wanted more ‘mellow’ id go for Joe (pass) or Wes or Jim Hall or Pat Martino, or….

        whatever. i can’t get too mellow since i’ve got lots to do between now and monday. But here’s some nice Wes footage.

        *What’s kind of cool about him (wes) and Jim hall is that both of them were pretty much entirely illiterate, musically, and just played by ear and invented their own techniques. both basically made up new ways of playing the instrument just to get the job done. Wes played with his fucking thumb. Jim was some kind of idiot savant.

        1. mikey

          I went from what you linked – more funky – to his version of Georgia on My Mind – real mellow

          1. Gilmore

            Oh, word, i’ve never heard him do “Georgia”. (checks it) Nice!

            I think Wes does a fantastic one. if i had to pick a favorite it would be either ray or willie nelson (and i actually think they did a duet once which would make it the bodyslam winner)

          2. mikey

            Great! I love both Willies and Ray’s and this is super.
            “Best” is hard – it’s also hard to beat the simplicity of the man Himself – https://youtu.be/5k0bKSJOywc

  24. AlmightyJB

    Pat’s – Titans over already. Guess that’s no surprise.

    1. Drake

      Okay Bill, it’s 35 to 7. How about we call it a night for Gronk and Brady.

      1. Drake

        Nope

        1. DOOMco

          never. they wanted more.

    2. Grumbletarian

      Bring on the Steelers or Jaguars.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I would think the Steelers would take care of Jags pretty easily as long as Rothesburger doesn’t throw bunch of pics like last game with them. I just hope the Vikes get past the Saints tomorrow.

        1. DOOMco

          The jags do have a real shot.

        2. RoadSplosives

          Just remember the Steelers were also bested by the lowly Bears this season too.

          That’s bad.

        3. CPRM

          I just hope the Vikes get past the Saints tomorrow.

          Only to see them fall flat on their faces in another championship game. Last time it was Brett Favre doing what Brett Favre did to the Packers so many times by fucking up on the last play, before that it was a kicker with a perfect record, this time it is a quarterback who has outperformed his own talent. The salty tears will overflow the Mississippi.

          1. Grumbletarian

            A Vikings/Eagles NFC Championship game will be indistinguishable from a convention of auto-erotic asphyxiation enthusiasts.

  25. Tres Cool

    Goodnight, Missus Calabash.
    Wherever you are.

    1. AlmightyJB

      She says good night

  26. Rhywun

    Jesus Christ I just turned on my TV which always loads my local cable news channel and they’re STILL talking about that fucking Trump book.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Lol. So sad.

      1. Rhywun

        I can’t imagine what a soul-crushing job “news anchor” must be – at least I’m somewhat proud of what I do.

        1. AlmightyJB

          They have that high horse going for them.

    2. CPRM

      I turned on my TV at like 9:56 CST and saw the end of SNL with the Rock where the joke was he was like Indiana Jones, only him and Short Round were gay. So stunning, so brave #TheRock2020; oh wait now it’s #Oprah2020…

  27. Gordilocks
    1. Rhywun

      Good lord, I would need something other than/in addition to vodka in order to enjoy that.

      1. Gordilocks

        I listen to it stone sober, and this style of music has kept me going on long trucking missions too numerous to count.

        But yeah, if I go to a big trance party like BOOM or Eclipse, then I’m usually pretty highly accentuated.

        1. Rhywun

          this style of music has kept me going on long trucking missions too numerous to count.

          Heh whatever works

        2. CPRM

          My dad listened to talk radio and Alice cooper; but I guess you do you, and I’ll do me.

    2. Gilmore

      for all my extensive experience, i’ve still never been able to distinguish any of the “4 on the floor” genres from one another.

      basically, if it goes, “boom boom boom boom” (kicks on the 1234), its “house” to me.

      1. Gordilocks

        basically, if it goes, “boom boom boom boom” (kicks on the 1234), its “house” to me.

        You are dead to me, Gilmore.

        1. Gilmore

          here was a huge hit from 2010

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83YUvgxoPs8

          what do you call that?

          1. Gordilocks

            Elevator music for retirees.

          2. Gilmore

            i wasn’t suggesting it was something i admired. i just wondered how your finer-tuned sensibilities would be able to throw the popular “boom-chick-boom-chick” shit into various discrete buckets.

          3. Gordilocks

            I was only being partly facetious.

            This particular track is kinda slow and not terribly exciting. I’m not an expert on the finer-tuning of *mainstream* dance music, because I find most of it boring and pedestrian.

            I would call it kinda house-y with some techno elements. I guess?

          4. Gilmore

            same people. apparently its “trance

            Perhaps you could explain the difference between trance and psytrance now.

          5. Gilmore

            this particular track is kinda slow and not terribly exciting. I’m not an expert on the finer-tuning of *mainstream* dance music

            oh, so your genre definitions are based on whether you *like* it or not?

          6. Gordilocks

            oh, so your genre definitions are based on whether you *like* it or not?

            No, not at all. I’m just saying that I’m better equipped to identify certain genres that are outside the main. I don’t listen to a lot of ‘EDM’ or popular dance or club music. I just don’t like it.

            As for trance and psy-trance, typically psytrance is higher in the bpm range, and has a shit ton more going on in the background. The sounds are all different, typically more aggressive, and psy typically doesn’t employ the cheesy emo tones and fades that regular trance uses. Trance also has vocals, on occasion, and psy mostly doesn’t, although psy producers employ a lot more samples from pop culture in an attempt at humour or to further trip out whoever is stomping away on the dancefloor.

            Psytrance also has a more definitive culture surrounding it, a kinda lifestyle aesthetic analogous to DeadHeads, which regular trance does not. Most regular trance fans are just clubby types who wouldn’t be inclined to chase psy parties around the world or do the amount of psychedelics and entheogens that tranceheads do.

          7. Gordilocks

            * I should say, psy never has vocals. Unless they’re part of a sample or some kind of psy-cover of something else.

      2. Rhywun

        I listen to a shit-ton of “industrial dance” / “futurepop” / “EBM” etc. so I know from that.

        The main difference is “style”? I wouldn’t call anything I like “house” even if it shares a lot of those characteristics. I remember from the tail end of my clubbing days that 95 percent of them – especially gay clubs – were playing nothing else and I fucking hated it.

        1. Gordilocks

          Dance music has more sub-genres than heavy metal or fringe politics.

          Christ, psytrance, which is the fringiest subgenre of all dance music (at least according to all of the haters I run into), has probably 3 or 4 dozen of it’s own sub-variants.

          1. Gilmore

            “”Dance music has more sub-genres than heavy metal or fringe politics.””

            yes, and its one of its worst aspects. most of them don’t matter particularly. which i why i said, “i have lots of experience” but dont’ care about the labels

            what’s Deadmau5? “EDM” if so, WTF is EDM when it stops being 4-floor? i define all dance music by tempo and rhythm (the actual pattern). Anything within 120-140 that’s 4 on the floor is “house” and i’ve never heard a good reason why that’s not a sufficient definition.

          2. Gordilocks

            I agree that a great deal of it sounds similar, especially to the untrained ear.

            Dig deep enough, and you start to find music that has more going on than just the main beat.

          3. Gilmore

            especially to the untrained ear.

            Let me be clear:

            I’ve collected and listened to electronic music since the late 1970s, and could probably reproduce most of it within a few minutes with equipment i own.

            i spent years listening to aphex twin and autechre and boards of canada and kid 606 and squarepusher and coil and Uziq 100 other various “experimental” electronic musicians over the last 2 decades.

            I still don’t think you need more than a few words to describe most of it.

            that’s my point. I don’t think saying, “uh, well, you just don’t get it” is much help.

          4. CPRM

            You just don’t get it.

          5. Gordilocks

            I didn’t say that *you* had an untrained ear.

            I was speaking in general, to the average person, or more specifically, the average music listener who hates on fringe music styles.

            Apologies for sounding otherwise.

          6. CPRM

            At least we can all agree this song is great, right?

          7. Gilmore

            hates on fringe music styles.

            i don’t think anything that goes “boom chick” (4 on the floor) is fringe at all

            which was pretty much my basic point to start with. if its between 120-140, and is 4-floor…then its “house”

            unless you identify some objective criteria that says otherwise… i haven’t really heard any reason to change my mind.

            here’s one of my favorite tracks. tell me what genre it is.

          8. Gordilocks

            Aphex Twin exists in his own genre.

            Some people used to call what he does ‘IDM’, or, Intelligent Dance Music.

            I had that album when I was younger, and it received pretty heavy rotation in my truck right around the first time I went to Burning Man. Then I found psytrance, and haven’t really looked back. I dig psybreaks, psychedelic techno, and come forms of electro, typically of the more aggressive and dirty sounding variety.

            Also, most psytrance, especially the forms I enjoy, are north of 140bpm. Usually 144-150.

            The mix i posted here is running in the 146-148 neighbourhood.

          9. Gordilocks

            f its between 120-140, and is 4-floor…then its “house”

            Hmmm.

            If it appears on Reason.com, it’s ‘libertarian’.

          10. Gilmore

            Aphex Twin exists in his own genre.

            this is a sign you’re not really doing the “genre” thing seriously

            e.g.
            – trying to sort 1000 records into some coherent categories
            vs
            – shit you talk about with your ecstasy-dealer

          11. Gordilocks

            this is a sign you’re not really doing the “genre” thing seriously

            Says the guy who just stipulated that anything with a beat count between 120 and 140 is automatically house.

            shit you talk about with your ecstasy-dealer

            Lol. ‘ecstacy’

            Ok.

          12. Gilmore

            Says the guy who just stipulated that anything with a beat count between 120 and 140 is automatically house.

            I’d love to have a more detailed and objective criteria to help split stuff up.

            i was hoping you could provide.

          13. Gilmore

            but, for the sale of this evening: never mind

          14. Gilmore

            “sake”

          15. Gordilocks

            I’d love to have a more detailed and objective criteria to help split stuff up.

            Well, where to start. I’m not a dj, and by no means an expert on all the hundreds of flavours of dance music. It would be easier to do this with music at hand that I could play, and provide a more hands on description of what is different between each style.

            I would say ‘enact your own labour’ and head over to DI.fm and browse through their selection of genres and listen to each one, carefully. The differences between ‘house’ ‘trance’ ‘electro’ ‘techno’ ‘dubstep’ ‘gabber’ ‘happy hardcore’ and all of the rest are pretty easy to pick up on. Getting into further subdivisions will take a bit more time.

            Stack one of my faves against your examples of trance and the difference between psy trance and ‘trance’ will be immediately apparent.

          16. Gordilocks

            Pardon the delay, kinda bouncing back and forth between my laptop and painting a room.

            /serious slacker today

          17. Gilmore

            immediately apparent.

            yet still impossible to say what is specifically different in terms of objective aspects

            my initial point was entirely about this fact that people go, “Uh, I dunno, it totally just sounds different” but its still just house music with slightly different gravy.

            thats the problem with dance music. people create limitless “genres” to define stuff they like. its mostly all just all the same basic stuff, slightly modified

            The stuff that is *actually* very different? the sort of stuff i cited (a la Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, EPROM, metc) isn’t actually “dance” music at all. yet the morons in the music biz call it EDM or IDM or somethign, all claiming it has something to do with “dance”.

            its all very dumb, and i’ve never cared for it. what i do in the meantime is call it all “house” because boom-chick music is all derived from disco.

          18. Gordilocks

            what i do in the meantime is call it all “house” because boom-chick music is all derived from disco.

            No argument on the derivation from disco, and something most serious Dj’s who’ve been spinning professionally for a long time would agree on 100%.

            I’m kind of in agreement with you, and kind of not. Yes, it is hard to nail down some of the hair-splitting in differences of tunes, however, piling everything together under some broad label like ‘EDM’ doesn’t help us either, and I guess our disagreement here comes on where the definitive line is. You place it at ‘house’, I place it further down the rabbit hole.

            I’m guilty of being defensive about ‘my brand’ of dance music, and I think you can understand that this is a defense mechanism of sorts, oft replicated in the fandom of anything on the fringe, wether it’s music or some other pursuit. I’ve been witness to the narcissism of small differences between uber-geeky music heads, and I will take this exchange as a reminder that I come across that way when in territory where my fellow travelers in trance are not present.

          19. Gordilocks

            yet still impossible to say what is specifically different in terms of objective aspects

            Did you miss this upthread ?

            As for trance and psy-trance, typically psytrance is higher in the bpm range, and has a shit ton more going on in the background. The sounds are all different, typically more aggressive, and psy typically doesn’t employ the cheesy emo tones and fades that regular trance uses. Trance also has vocals, on occasion, and psy mostly doesn’t, although psy producers employ a lot more samples from pop culture in an attempt at humour or to further trip out whoever is stomping away on the dancefloor.

            Psytrance also has a more definitive culture surrounding it, a kinda lifestyle aesthetic analogous to DeadHeads, which regular trance does not. Most regular trance fans are just clubby types who wouldn’t be inclined to chase psy parties around the world or do the amount of psychedelics and entheogens that tranceheads do.

          20. Gilmore

            this is a defense mechanism of sorts, oft replicated in the fandom of anything on the fringe

            yeah, my problem is that its not really ‘fringe’ at all, and there’s 100 names for various children of disco, and like 1 for the 100 types of electronic music that are complete orphans.

            wasn’t really trying to bust your balls, its just something i’ve failed to get any good answer for over 20+ years

          21. Gilmore

            that video seems to be confirming that “psytrance” is “trance”, but faster, and with more drugs

          22. Gordilocks

            Also, ‘EDM’ is the Nick Gillespie of music genre labels.

          23. Gilmore

            my favorite

            the bbc narrator basically says, “its house, with dreadlocks and hippy pretensions”, which i think is close to my own POV

        2. CPRM

          I went out with this girl once and she took me to a gay club (I don’t really get women that think gay clubs are are like totes fun and OMG, but what ever) being this is Wisconsin and I’m what would be called a bear at least she was there for me to let the guys down easy. Nope, sorry, I’m with her.

          1. Rhywun

            Women like gay clubs because they like not getting hit on by weirdos all the time.

          2. CPRM

            I don’t know any guys that go to lesbian clubs so the weirdo barfly women don’t hit on them. I dunno. I stopped going to the bar years ago.

          3. Rhywun

            I think for most men going to a lesbian club would defeat the whole purpose of going out.

          4. CPRM

            I dunno, the women I met at bars were all scary

    3. J. Frank Parnell

      Very nice.

  28. CPRM

    Am I the only one that imagine’s The Hat with Master Shake’s voice?

      1. CPRM

        The framing is all wrong, and the scene is underlit. That is why the pixelation is occurring.

      2. Gordilocks

        Late night snacks, thanks.

    1. CPRM

      *Pushes glasses up bridge of nose* It seems she needs to find a bra that fits her better

  29. Mythical Libertarian Woman

    Survey reveals the celebs people most want to have a threesome with…but would you invite Daniel Radcliffe into your bed?

    No, no, oh God no, why, why, my brain is bleeding